Why did we, as a community, let things get this bad?
>>339961505
is this the number of entrants per game?
>>339961505
>Pokken Tournament above actual fighting games
>Smash 4 about both Street Fighters combined
>Killer Instinct there at all
>Melee can't beat SFV let alone Smash 4
What the fuck is going on with the FGC
>>339961667
>People like things that I don't like! WHATS GOING ON?!
>>339961505
>marvel outlived sf4
>people still play mk
>meleefags btfo
People are losing interest in the genre.
>>339961858
>Games the FGC allegedly hate above games the FGC love
>This isn't cause for alarm
Anon, pls
>>339961667
what's wrong with KI
>>339962060
It's on Xbox and has a TINY community.
>>339961605
Pre-registration.
>>339961993
Smash players actually show up to tournaments despite mostly keeping it to themselves.
>>339961667
Smash 4 historically does better at FGC based events than Melee for whatever reason. USF4 has no entrants because people have moved on to SF5. Smash 4 was the biggest event last year too so I'm not all that surprised.
>>339961667
SFV failed to make an impact because of Capcom fuck ups so now fighting games are dying.
>>339961912
>>meleefags btfo
Not really. In FGC events Smash 4 always gets mroe entrants, but in Smash focused majors Melee has the higher player count.
>>339962212
>USF4 has no entrants because people have moved on to SF5.
Can't play both?
There's plenty of Melee players that play Smash4 and vice-versa.
>>339961993
if they really hate the games why are they playing them?
>>339961993
Fuck off reds you aren't wanted here
I haven't met anybody that played fighters bar a group of 6 people at my university's game room a while back
but i can't turn my fucking head without seeing Smash everywhere. Every installment besides (vanilla) Brawl, including PM, everywhere where there's some form of gaming "subculture" gathering for lack of better word
>>339962305
Playing what? The most vocal and "core" FGC despise anything that isn't MvC and USF4.
I think the most important thing here is that Tekken 7 has that many players despite not even being out officially.
>>339962212
more normies
>>339962359
Make me.
>>339962281
The grand majority of SF4 players moved on. And Smash 4/Melee have low crossover numbers.
>>339961505
Xrd will never generate the hype BB did at EVO 2014. Hell, nothing might. Biggest pot, best finals ever, most drama and emotion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrvY6BbiUE0Whiny /v/ermin complaining about how much more "weeb" BB is than GG aren't players/viewers/etc.
>>339962140
It's on PC now as well. Rev up that Windows 10 install though.
>>339962281
That's actually not all that true. Melee and Smash 4 tend to have very little crossover, they're pretty much two separate communities that just get grouped together because they're both Smash games.
>>339961667
I have a friend who's big into MKXL, XRD, and T7. He never mentions or says shit about Smash players ever.
The FGC as a whole doesn't seem to roundly give to shits about them.
>>339962589
Anything exclusively on the Xbone or W10 are dead to me. I fucking refuse.
Why are people still giving REDS attention. he's fucking retarded
>>339962583
Meh, I've been more hyped before
>>339962140
It's on PC now and it's a game known for getting a lot of on day registrations over pre-registrations.. It pulls around the same level of viewers on twitch as anime as well (It's also really popular with Japanese streams for a weird reason)
>>339961505
Took a few minutes for me to figure out what the fuck PT was. Just say Pokken you fags.
>>339962589
Already did.formatted my just to play it.
>>339962692
See you in 3 months when [GAME YOU WANT] comes out
>>339962650
>Anecdotal evidence
Okay anon.
Do a little research and you'll see your friends are the exception not the rule.
>>339962815
>It's on PC now and it's a game known for getting a lot of on day registrations over pre-registrations
Proof?
>>339962860
Twitter has like a 140 character limit or something so they have to cut corners.
>>339961505
>Melee
>>339962396
There are random posters for Smash sessions at my university. Never seen one for regular fighting games.
>>339962754
Because new people come who don't know who REDS is and they just see an idiot. Everyone who's been here a few years knows he has a long track record of being retarded but you can go a long time without seeing him only to have him pop up in random places.
Honestly it makes sense. Smash 4 has the smallest entry barrier. Casualfags who watch one tournament and play for glory will think they have a chance, they perceive it as more of a level playing field.
>>339961505
>we
>community
>>339962994
Proof is that you should look it up yourself.
>>339962396
A lot of people at my uni who play smash 4 play other fighters too, KI, SFV, PT (Obviously)
I don't think anyone who plays Smash 4 plays it exclusively.
>FGC hasnt been trash for years
>>339962592
>Melee and Smash 4 tend to have very little crossover
What are you basing this on?
>>339962212
>Smash 4 historically does better at FGC based events than Melee for whatever reason.
More people play Smash 4, it's not really surprising that it's more popular.
>>339962396
Smash is actively trying to get bigger every month.
The FGC is not doing shit and getting stagnant as fuck, whenever they like to admit it or not.
In 20+ years the FGC did not thought of Visas, Leagues, floating players, etc. and all of the above are current topics on the Smash community right now. It anything but their fault.
>>339961505
I see nothing wrong with this.
>>339963129
>Can't back up his comments
Okay then.
>>339962212
More Smash 4 players play actual fighting games. Meanwhile Melee diehards have a hard time grasping the concept that other games exist
>>339963186
The fact that Mr. Wizard said last year that Melee and Smash 4 have very little crossover plus you can take a look at literally any event's registration and see there are very few people that play both games?
'competitive' smash 4 is so fucking dull
>>339963259
It actually isn't. For some reason it gets more players but never more views. It pretty weird.
>>339963281
In the time it took you to type out that reply you could have googled it and found your answer.
>>339963315
Mad gaylee fag is about mad af
>>339961505
>SFVfags BTFO
>Meleefags BTFO
>Marvelfags BTFO
>KIfags... do they even exist?
smash 4 is way easier to get into than even the admittedly casualized SFV, sold more units, and features (comparatively) more original gameplay. i don't like the game but its not rocket science as to why its so popular.
>>339963443
Or you could back up your own comments and post a source instead of mindlessly replying.
>>339963305
But Evo 2015 had a lot of cross over.
PT? Like the horror demo? What?
>KI
Wew lad.
But the reason is because the prize pot is abysmally small or something. KI had more entrants than Melee at Combobreaker last month. No clue what's up with IG and MS, last year they were in the ball with the community but this year it's like "figure it out yourselves"
>>339963281
https://twitter.com/smashgg/status/681568001930444800
Here
>>339963315
So is MURRVUL and SF4, but you don't complain because MUH CAPCUM FIGHTERS!
>>339963529
Pokken Tournament
>>339961505
So CEO really is a smash major now
>>339963559
>>339963483
i dont play any of those games.
>mfw Nintendo takes over the fighting game genre
>>339961667
>KI there at all
On top of being an autistic tripfag, you also have shit taste in fightan. Awesome.
>>339963591
It'll happen to EVO too.
The only reason Sm4sh has so many entrants is because it has a hilariously low Skill Ceiling, only supported by mindgames and ZeRo's Scarf.
>>339961667
The FGC refuses to play non-Capcom games even though SFV has failed at almost everything it attempted
street fighter 6 anyone?
>>339963528
>back up your own comments
what the fuck are you talking about? it's not some argument you can prove wrong you autistic clown. It's literally been on PC for months.
>>339963558
Was that so hard?
>>339963373
Not really. The game is easier and less intimidating to get into, and less exciting to watch. Makes perfect sense.
>>339963745
>It's literally been on PC for months.
>it's a game known for getting a lot of on day registrations over pre-registrations
Prove this comment.
>>339963635
You don't play Sm4sh either you stupid faggot piece of shit.
>>339963761
Anything for you to stop posting.
>>339961667
It's not the FGC anymore. It's the Smash Community now.
>>339963591
Well run FGC tournaments turn into Smash Majors, it's inevitable. If you want FGC with minimal smasher go to Big E/Shin Blanka events.
I blame Capcom.
>>339963761
I wasn't the guy you kept replying to I just found a source and posted it
>>339962398
so what? normal fgc has no issue with newer games
>>339963950
Good man
>>339964002
>normal fgc
Literally doesn't exist. FGC, by definition, aren't normal. They're elitist fags.
>>339963838
>At FGC events
Sorry I missread. However If I had to say a reason Melee gets less entrants on FGC events it's because the best of 3 up to Top 8, and that Melee has more events of their own. That's the reason nobody went to Combo Breaker, GOML and Dream Hack were that month.
Regarding CEO, WTFox is like a week later and some players think of going to that one because it has 3/5 on Top 32. Like it should be.
>>339961667
Pokken Tournament is an actual fighting game, though. The only people who say this have never played it.
>>339964104
So they're the "norm." Christ, you're retarded.
>>339963715
>Low skill ceiling
>One guy has won 56 tournaments in a row
Lol?
So Melty Blood's going to be payed in the bathroom of the nearest Denny's right?
>>339963842
enjoy your fisher-price '''''''fighting''''''' game :^)
>>339964167
>The only people who say this have never played it
Didn't one of the developers literally say it wasn't a fighting game? I imagine he's played it.
>>339961505
It's time to abandon EVO or accept that the new player base generation hates fighting games that are actually good and move on.
>>339961505
>There are STILL people on /v/ who don't think Smash is a fighting game
>>339964297
We'll also enjoy taking fighting game's spots at EVO my friend :-)
>>339963842
i tend not to play bad games.
>>339964337
It's a party game.
>>339964308
>Didn't one of the developers literally say it wasn't a fighting game?
Source?
So Smash is confirmed as a meme game?
>>339964337
It's not
It's better
>>339964436
>Sakurai says Smash Bros. isn't a fighting game, 'completely different label'.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jun/21/sakurai-says-smash-bros-isnt-fighting-game-completely-different-label-talks-game-development-fighting-genre-and-value-unpredictability/
>>339964167
This. It's one of the weirdest fucking things I've played but it's certainly fightan. Nothing like those shitty Naruto arena games everyone compares it too.
>>339964436
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/02/18/take-a-look-at-the-pokken-developer-interview-with-hoshino-and-harada/
>>339964297
And you enjoy yours
I'm sure you only play Melee to be part of a fad
SF community the only one that actually puts some effort in to rival the Smash players.
Those Mortal Kombat and GG numbers are disgraceful.
>>339964656
i don't play that garbage either
nintendo should stick to making mario and zelda
>>339964667
>SF community the only one that actually puts some effort in to rival the Smash players.
Kinda. Last year if you would've tell me that Melee/Smash 4 was going to beat SFV at EVO viewers, I would've call you a mad man. Now, I'm not sure.
>>339961505
Just goes to show that the FGC is a fucking joke. Shit needs to hurry up and finally be put to rest.
>>339964598
He calls it a fighting game repeatedly through the video. You likely fell for a clickbait headliner that blows a line out of proportion.
>>339964902
>Now, I'm not sure.
I'm pretty sure it'll surpass SFV viewers.
>>339964337
>all smash players are too bullheaded to say it's not so we can coexist in harmony
>>339964275
In the bathroom of the nearest Waffle House
>>339962650
>doesn't play SF
You're friend is actually a decent human being unlike the trash that make up the core of the FGC.
>>339965000
Oh, I know there was no proof in that video.
>>339965142
Now that's going too far.
>>339964902
it is going to beat it just like sf4 beit it last year
Melee is my favorite
>>339961505
The KI community is awful. Imagine if Jebailey dropped the game next year for Skullgirls or something they would all bitch and moan but no one shows up
>>339965185
So the classic "I was only pretending to be retarded"
>>339965213
I don't know anon. Melee it's getting bigger by the day. And SFV it's getting worse.
>>339964902
Sm4sh will maybe hit 85k viewers at evo. Last year it peaked at 75 during GF's. Melee hit 100k, SFIV was at like 120k or something.
>>339962907
>>339962589
I fucking did it but it still wont play for me because teredo is ass.
>we
>community
These words. You're a shitty conformist type person, aren't you? All this "we" bullshit. Go live in your societal prison like the societal slave you are, shitty conformist.
>>339965316
Not at all.
>>339963186
I'm kinda into the smash community and they fucking hate each other.
>>339965353
Melee had 216k, and SFV up to 250k. Give or take.
Then again early this year Melee had 115k on a Melee only event. That's crazy.
>>339965548
>Genesis was a Melee only event
??? I know you guys live in your own little world but the tournament was huge for 64 and Wii U as well
>>339963186
Not him but they play very differently. Melee is mostly about rushing down your opponent>comboing them to death, or waiting for them to mess up>comboing them to death.
Sm4sh is more neutral based I guess. It's a lot of jumping around and getting grabs into easy d-throw confirms. At high percentages, you either have to read where they're going to go, or hope that they mess up their DI on your last throw confirm. Unless you're M2K, playing both games would totally mess with your mind on what's good and what's not.
>>339965760
I meant Melee centric. English is hard, leave me alone.
>>339961505
>Money
>Esports Status
Pick either one and you're right.
Why does Smash 4 have so many entrants anyway? Doesn't the game have little depth? Is the prizepool really big or something?
>>339965928
>put little effort in easy game
>win shitloads of money
Hmmm
>>339965928
>Doesn't the game have little depth?
Hence all the entrants.
>>339965928
Everyone who does well in For Glory thinks they have a good chance.
>>339965928
Prizepools are bigger, yes. It's an easier game to get into, if you didn't start out with Melee, that is. Very little tech skill required. I legit think those 20XX/"Tech skill is important" memes scare the younger players from trying out Melee.
>>339965980
>Smash
>Shitloads of money
>Anyone but Top 10 players beating Zero in GFs
>The entire fighting game scene was apparently kept afloat by SF4 alone
>Now that SF5 is shit everything crumbles
>>339966754
Everything but Smash. Smash will be the fighting game scene.
If "players" of other games actual went out to play and host their own events instead of botching about Smash or SF then this would have never happened.
Is anyone surprised the most popular games are from communities that run most of the tournaments in country? If you build it, they will come.
at this rate smash is gonna replace the FGC at evo
>>339966860
Xrd is a scary anime weeb game it will never garner the popularity even though its the superior game in almost all aspects
>>339965094
>all fg players are too bullheaded to say it is so we can coexist in harmony
>>339965419
Then you are actually retarded
>>339961505
At least KI is bottom tier, should die soon. Microsoft make better fighting game for Xbox.
>>339962258
>capcom
Dethrone the king, they might be pioneers but don't deserve the title anymore.
who would've thought a casual as fuck game with next to no balance and consideration for tournaments would beat out games that have had decades of community and the devs of those games actually balance and play test everything
>>339965928
>Why does Smash 4 have so many entrants anyway?
>Doesn't the game have little depth?
That makes perfect sense, what are you even asking? The easier game gets more players because casuals can play against better players and don't feel like they're getting their shit pushed in.
>>339965353
It was also on at 10am.
>>339961505
the less complex something is the lower barrier of entry
>>339967896
You must be 18 years or older to post here
>event in florida
>Sm4sh being the most popular
Nothing is new here, that's "their" game. Fucking fraud state.
>>339965928
It has plenty depth. It's also easy to start out with. That's why it's such a good and popular game.
Most of the characters being viable helps too.
>>339968184
I am 18, what's your point?
>>339961505
XRD, yay!
>>339967073
or maybe it's because the thousands of people who dickride it online are too lazy to actually play game.
I'll never understand why anime players expect people to stop everything they're doing to play their game and host their events. Do it yourself.
>>339961505
Smash has an event like every 5 days if you want big numbers you have to support it. MK still gives out good money for the few that play it.
Wish more people played Xrd but it doesn't have the same kind of support the devs give the Japs. Plus new fags can't YRC.
>>339961993
>>339961667
I live in Florida. The Smash scene in Florida is fucking massive and the FGC scene is pretty small comparatively. Smash has more top players than the FGC and it's really easy for Smash to get big since most of the scenes are based around USF/FSU/UF/UCF/Miami so you have a bunch of high school and college kids showing up
>>339961505
>KI -70
kek remember when people said this would be the new hotness since it got a PC port and SFV launched like shit? It has less entrants than two dead games and one game thats not even on consoles.
explain how the fuck KI got into evo but the hundreds of anime fighting fans can't have a single anime fighter?
fucking persona had over 400 people last time and KI cant even get 100
explain this fucking shit
>>339968818
anime doesn't get views, neither does KI but anime moreso
>>339968818
Xrd
>>339968818
Devbucks
>>339968968
Xrd doesnt even count, Persona is a real fighter
>>339962583
Last year's xrd grand finals got a spot on espn though.
>>339965142
Thanks I'll be sure to attend
>>339962060
Nothing but the xbone and w10 exclusivity is probably taking its toll. I find it really fun desu
>>339968818
>explain how the fuck KI got into evo
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
>>339969009
MS didn't pay the guys at EVO this year, they even said most their money this year from Capcom and Sony.
>>339969280
Once again, MS did not pay EVO guys this year for advertisement and shit like they have the past two years. Don't be pissed the KI community bigger than the Marvel and SF community now with PC support.
>>339969296
I thought Nintendo/NoA was throwing around a lot of money and sponsorship's for smash 4
>>339961993
vocal minority, the FGC loves Smash
>>339969423
nigga no one care about smash
>>339969296
Than it's them giving the game a last chance before it gets the boot in 2017. The PC release didn't do shit. All the FGC talking heads endlessly praise the game but no one actually enters it at tounaments
>shiller shitstink
>mortal kombat
>2 smash party brawlers
>pokemon fightan
fucking hell this is going to be one boring evo. in future it needs to be just capcom fighters and anime fighters, everything else straight out banned desu
>Tekken will be the king
Feels good baby!
>>339968818
Mr. Wizard literally hates Japan, Anime and will only tolerate Capcom, while everyone else who wants to host their game at main stage better have lots of money to front event costs. Only Arcsys has the income to host.
>>339968818
KI has no prize pool for CEO, it had good attendance at combobreaker
>>339969805
When will some sort of fat related disease take him?
>>339963049
>melee
>>339969686
>WAAAH STAHP STEALING MUH SFV PLAYERZ!
This insecurity, holy shit.
>>339969887
Apparently all he eats when he goes over to Japan is Mcdonalds so if he travels enough, pretty soon I imagine.
>>339961981
Yep, I'm starting to think SFV wasn't a success because people are loosing interests to fighters as opposed to lack of content.
>>339962396
Because Smash is easy to pick up and its accessible. You can be relatively good at it without having to actually own a Wii U and just play at a friends house or something.
>>339969805
Almost every fighter on there is Japanese, what are you talking about?
>>339970108
ha ha good one
what i actually meant is all of those games are boring as shit to watch. I'd take KoF, GG, BB etc over western trash or anything nintendo
>>339961505
>Marvel
That's just sad.
>>339969887
>>339969805
animefags and SJWs are two peas in a pod
>>339970229
And Mr. Wizard hates all of them except Capcom. Anything he allows is to make him money, and only Arcsys has the income from animedevs to front costs.
>>339961505
Isnt sm4sh going to steal the better timeslot now from melee?
>>339970359
>no capitalization
>no puntuation
>ha ha
Underage shitposter confirmed. you love these babes (You) dont you?
>>339970615
>Steal
Melee never had the better timeslot this year. Sm4sh was on top from the get go
>>339961505
>a party game is more popular than a fightan game
who woulda thunk it
>FGC
>'"we"
lol, the fgc was always bad, as soon as videogames became "sports" it has been shit ever since. dont even deny it, the focus on competitveness led SFV to the state it is today.
this is the future you chose.
>Fighting Game Cuckolds
MY
FUCKING
SIDES
>>339970770
Melee brings in more than twice the viewers. And its fucking retarded that melee gets the worse timeslot.
I hope all the top melee players boycott this mess of an event.
Smash Players show up to tournaments, enter actual fighting game pools on the side, and get fucking bodied. It makes the pot bigger for actual FG players so it's not so bad.
>>339970592
you want to know why there aren't a billion anime games at Evo?
Because it's a tournament ran by Capcom and KI fans. They have zero duty or responsibility to babysit other games and any they add they do of their own free will.
>>339961667
Pokken Tournament is an actual fighting game.
SFV sucks, so it's not surprising that Smash with it's extremely autistic but devoted fanbase is kicking it's ass.
Killer Instinct isn't shit, but it shouldn't be above Virtua or MvC2.
Melee is shit.
>animeNEETs think they're part of the FGC
>>339968818
get cucked, shitter.
>>339963715
>Game is only supposed by ZeRo
>didn't attend a major for months
>didn't win GOML when he came back
>>339963373
The meta for melee has been developing for the past 15 years it's been out. It takes a lot of time to catch up compared to sm4sh.
>>339962951
>[GAME YOU WANT]
>MS exclusive
I don't want anything now, I don't see anything in the future either. Show me some hot exclusives that aren't KI or Quantum Break.
>>339971039
Yes thank you retard for rewording what I just said. Is there anything else you'd like to add that was already explained by me with less clarity.
>>339971002
whoever made this has never played smash competitively
>i'll use PK flash
kek
>>339971218
Why people still pretend to like mvc2? Its a shit game thats its only praised bu people that grow up with it and has success in it, even top players admit is a piece of broken garabage and like it mostly out of nostalgia and because it generated hype to the casual observer
>>339971002
Are there people out there who really believe this image, or is it just elaborate bait?
>>339971634
Yeah, quit playing the goddamn victim like some tumblr blog and make your own tournament. People don't like you so they're going to avoid you as much as possible without being burned themselves for discrimination.
Poor KI
It deserves a much bigger crowd. Best game after SFV
>>339968818
Because KI is actually good.
>>339962140
Oh it's the tripfag who hates anything from MS
>Nintendo is taking over EVO
Just like horsefuckerrs took over the Four chen cup. Or furfaggs took over every porn project on patreoon.
Allowing Smash was a mistake.
>>339971810
Oh, so because Mr. Wizard hates anime I am acting like a victim? I'm not pissy. It's why Evo never gets tons of anime rep. It's why Animeevo grew into what it did. Stating facts doesn't make me pissy. I have no problem with anything at EVO, and from my perspective you seem to be the one with a victim complex so why don't you take your own advice, and stop over-reacting when someone points out why anime isn't at EVO beyond a single game.
>3 Smash games on one EVO are more likely than Blazblue and Guilty Gear appearing at the same time
>>339971968
Theres an alterative dimension where skullgirl won the 8 place at evo 2013 instead of smash, we got 2 years of it until it died and then we got wathever indie game of the moment and smash fags stayed in thei autistic little circle instead of invading the fgc, man, what i would give to live in that world
>>339961505
What do you mean?
Smash always does very well at CEO
SFV has been getting very good numbers
Most games there haven't got an update out in time or are not even out (Tekken)
The only really bad bits are MKX and KI, but those have been dead for ages
>>339972327
t. 09er that doesn't remember Smash was at EVO before 2013.
Smash would have still been there by 2014 or 2015
>>339963528
>But Evo 2015 had a lot of cross over.
Wizard specifically stated that there wasn't.
>>339972125
Evo is a fan tournament. It was made by Capcom players for Capcom players, everything else is just extra. Wizard could give a fuck about your games, but your community has proven time and time again to be cancerous as fuck. You faggots threw the largest hissy fit in the world when he didn't want to buy Slash, then when he set a schedule you didn't want, and finally when he dropped GG.
You have a victim complex because you honestly believe because someone doesn't want to invest thousands of dollars in a game they don't even play for people he doesn't even hang out with means they're hateful and spiteful.
Imagine if the Smash community just twiddle their thumbs like retards before and after Evo stopped hosting Smash? Where would they be today? Probably as dead as your favorite game.
Why don't they let Naruto Storm games in if they allow 2 Autismo Bros games?
>>339972935
naruto is shit
>>339969089
>Last year's xrd grand finals got a spot on espn though.
No it didn't, Woshige's moment in Top 8 did. Woshige didn't even make Grand Finals, he had a Loser's Bracket run where he then lost LF against Nage iirc.
Actually rooting for KI and MK, they should be higher than PT.
>>339963269
>floating players
yeah what a great idea, lets stop upsets and stagnate who gets in the top 8
>>339963269
I guess that is why SFV has 4000+ at evo, the scene just isn't growing
>>339972596
Yes, melee was one year in 07, then brawl one year at 08 and then never again, it was a passing fad, just like poken is this year or persona was last year, and after that it never was again until the donation drive in 2013 you fucking faggot
Smash doesn't need EVO, EVO needs Smash
>>339972995
The games are pretty fum.
>>339962396
>>339963052
>>339962396
that is wrong with universities in these time:
party to play video games...
>>339971002
Everything on both sides of this bait image is inaccurate.
>I'll try PK Flash
>>339972854
Nigger please. GG got dropped one year yet had a side tournament at EVO with more entrants than half the main stage games, especially VF5 which had no business being there. GG was even beating MvC2 at most tournaments at this time.
>>339973064
Top Melee players never get upset in Round 1 pools at Majors, ever. It simply does not happen.
>>339973520
>especially VF5 which had no business being there
Come on now
Can't wait to hear CEO and EVO crowds OHOHOHOHOHO
>>339972854
So in short, again, you agree with me Wizard hates anime and is part of why anime is not repped, but do so in argumentative way that is full of baseless assumptions, some of which I've already stated is wrong. In fact, since we're repeating ourselves, I do not have a victim complex, and I do not have a problem with anything at EVO currently.
I'm not sure why you accusing other of a victim complex when you clearly have a seriously chip on your shoulder, yourself but you should probably calm down since childish behavior like this is exactly what you're presumably trying to condemn..
If you want to do something about it then enter, faggot.
>>339973239yeah the games are pretty fun
>>339973594
Which means your scene is stagnant and that more people need to get on their level, gating them off won't help that cause people will never get to play against them and have less chance to talk with them
Your basically saying these pools don't really mater so the good people can just come in and play later
>>339973950
I'm going to blow your mind here.
Pools never matter.
>>339961667
Smash and Pokken are really accessible and popular so there's bound to be a lot of people who play it.
Also Capcom has been doing a horrible job with SFV which has made a lot of people lose interest.
>>339961505
Why the fuck is SFV so high? That piece of shit should be at zero. You gay Daigo, Fuudo,etc. lovers need to kill yourselves
>>339972284
>3 smash games
what?
>>339972854
>Evo is a fan tournament.
not anymore.
>>339973950
Pools literally don't matter. It's just a way to fund the tournament and keep it open bracket. I don't remember the last time a Top 50 player lost in Pools
>>339973773
>mfw JWong gets BTFO once the Koreans and Japs roll back into town
He's been beating up on nothing but Americans lately.
>>339974213
I'm going to blow your mind here
For other games they do as their is talent across the scene, having only a few people be good and then having them skip matches basically confirming them to get in the top spots is just going to cause more stagnation
>>339974379
Daigo isn't even good in SFV dummy
>>339961505
I'm glad to see all the support pokken has gotten in under 4 months. Just hope it isn't infested with chandelures and suicunes.
>>339974624
i've yet to actually see any major level pokken play
>>339971796
Exact same thing can be said for U/MvC3, T7, and XRD.
>>339974501
>For other games they do
lol
remember when ryu being in sm4sh got leaked, half of the subreddit had no idea who he was nor did they recognize his theme song
>>339974213
>>339974481
Pools matter in other fg beacuse as opposed to smash, the general player isnt a complete shitter whos only contribution to the scene is sucking the dick out of a group of top players and not actually playing the game to get better
>>339974501
>Stagnation
It's literally been the same 5 people winning tournaments since 2008 with one guy challenging them in the past 3 years. Pools or No Pools doesnt change anything. Im talking 600+ man tournaments which happen every month
>>339973520
GG got dropped because the community was being faggots and instead of owning up to it you put 100% on Marn and spammed/DDOS the fuck out of SRK.
Smash got booted once too and they did their own thing instead of leeching.
>>339973871
Hey man, I'm not the one crying hate crimes against anime. But keep me updated on EVO's bribery and other conspiracy theories on your tumblr.
How the fuck can a shit game like Pokken get in but Naruto Storm can't? Might as well since you're allowing Nintenturds to ruin EVO.
>>339974763
Oh I guess Luffy didn't go out in pools in sfv that one time, or snake eyez or that whole hell pool thing at final round which saw a load of pro go out. Nope none of these recent events happened
>>339974947
Your scene has lots of issues, I'm just pointing out this won't help and just secure that there is not going to be significant new players cause older more experienced ones get a leg up
>>339975164
>Luffree
>and a Gief player
You're not helping your case here lad
>>339974719
Non of those games reach the level of brokeness garbage mvc2 has, heck, the only game in that list that can be considered broken is umvc3 and it still has way more chars represented in top lavel play, a mid-low tier team won evo last year and only one char (haggar) has a reapeted evo win
Does Pokken actually have a following, or is this going to be flavor of the month? Surprised to even see it on the list.
when you can't control your crowd, people make new crowds
Instead of bitching about smash babbies maybe FGCucks should show up to tournaments and support their own scene instead of crying.
You literally got cucked out of your biggest and most prestigious tournament.
>>339975073
Naruto is even worse senpai
>>339975360
>You literally got cucked out of your biggest and most prestigious tournament.
You mean evo? Where SFV has more entrants than any other game? Where SFIV always got the most views?
>>339975374
It's much faster.
>>339962259
>FGC likes Smash 4 more than Melee
meleefags btfo
>>339975073
Pokefag autism is far stronger.
>>339974714
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ttiqkk6BEtw
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ITvF9FXW4pE
>>339975053
Yes, you're the one pretending stating facts is wrong, then agree with the facts in a roundabout, accusatory manner. Please try to follow half of what you tried to preach to me, and maybe you agreeing with others will be more pleasant.
>>339975360
>You literally got cucked out of your biggest and most prestigious tournament.
pretty sure evo and final round are bigger than ceo
>>339975439
Then what are you bitching about?
>>339975274
>these evo champions dont count lol
Kill yourself you autist
>>339975073
Cause pokken takes skill in combo excecution and mind games instead of seeing who can spam substitute the most
>>339975164
As of 2016 the Top 20ish players are constantly getting interviewed by esports publications and the event staff. Plus exhibitions and meeting fans (keep in mind the age bracket of smash). Nobody in The Top 100 entered the scene later than 2012, before EVO, The documentary and new Smash hype.
If you asked me earlier this year I would have agreed with you that floating is stupid
>>339961505
>mahvel is finally dead
thank you nintendo
>>339975696
Not him but he has a point about Snake Eyez, Zangief is fucking garbage in V
Fighting games are boring, I'm only going to watch melee.
>>339975721
>As of 2016 the Top 20ish players are constantly getting interviewed by esports
cause they need to interview more than the 5 people who ever actually do anything
> Nobody in The Top 100 entered the scene later than 2012
So for 4 years you have no important new players?
>The documentary
You mean that propaganda one worse than the brony documentary?
>tfw competing in ultra
i have real chance at this shit. watch out for my fuerte fellas
>>339975497
>opinions equal fact
>you can mindread someone's motivations and reason for their decisions even when they've publicly stated otherwise
Top retard.
Can you tell me why someone not blowing thousands of dollars to host a game they don't play for people they don't know is the equivalent to hating it? If anything it's indifference.
>>339975708
>Pokken takes skill in combo
Zonning doesn't take any skill.
>>339976287
Good luck.
>>339976040
>worse than the brony documentary
Too far anon, not even a meleefag and thats hitting below the belt
>FGC
normalfag niggers/chinks, usually in their twenties
>Smash community
fat-as-fuck autistic white boys, usually in their teens
why is this?
>>339976040
There's literally no way to fix it.
Melee has the highest execution requirement and skill ceiling of any fighting game.
There's no way to handle the dominance of the people good at something that difficult other than to make the game itself easier and more random.
>>339976348
thanks familia
>>339976389
not really, have you seen the what if smash was an anime openings?
>>339976424
>Melee has the highest execution requirement and skill ceiling of any fighting game.
I look forward to them dominating every game them with their amazing skills that only a tiny amount of people can learn
>>339976287
Theres a fuerte in my scene who is mediocre as hell, went to evo ,got into one match before top 64, and other much better players from my scene who can 2-0 him did way worse , so yes, with fuerte you cand do anything regardless of skill, good look my man, maybe get a pocket char for elenas
>>339976424
melee is like this because the skill ceiling effectivly does not exist due to the game being broken
>>339976414
Americans are all manchildren.
>>339976687
really it is more like speed running than normal fighting games
>>339973239
I smell the blood of an english man
>>339976324
Chandelure and suicune aren't the only characters in the game anon
https://youtube.com/watch?LLRUrNk2nwPTmhHRsq03uLaw&v=063TuX3fLjk
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yoHTxBescdI
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5-VvkoKmzto
>>339976668
call me a bold man, but i usually take elenas on with fuerte
my worst matchups are against
blanka
vega
and dhalsims that teleport alot
>>339961505
ikr i can't believe Mortal Kombat is still relevant to people
>>339977031
Well sonicfox needs to earn his pocket money somehow, he's got a boyfriend to support
>>339975073
EVO was at first an event for all fighters to come together in order to summarize all little fanbases and create something big.
But today they smell the Nintendo autism bucks and want the fanbase. Why settle with multiple little fanbases when you can have one big cake?
>>339976797
is that why smashfags are almost always speedrunning fans as well?
>>339961505
What's with the low number of entrants for KI? I remember there being a decent number at Combo Breaker.
>>339977151
Their scenes are way closer than the fgc ever has been to smashfags. Also helps that a lot of the speedrunners are people obsessed on 20 year old nintendo games and have never moved on
>>339976886
Yeah but at that level, they will block a splash/qbomb and you will eat 300 damage into knockdown, if you have trouble with those chars, i reccomend seth, jump ins mixed up with divekicks will destroy them and you can punish a lot of their shit
>>339976292
Yes you seem pretty retarded to me since now the facts you've agreed with are now being considered baseless by you. What the fuck are you on about? You've regurgitating everything I've said since the beginning and -now- like 8 replies say its' wrong and baseless? If you wanted to make an argument with me you should have done that from the start.
So where's your evidence Wizard likes anime, Japan and doesn't make main-stage picks based on monetary coverage of the event expenditures? Where's your evidence Anime games besides Arcsys titles have enough pull in community and financials to make Evo main-stage? Since you apparently believe everything I've said (and repeated by you) since the beginning is wrong, please provide evidence to make your (apparent) argument.
>>339977129
>implying he can't just play skullgirls/GG/DOA
That nigga is a fucking machine with underground fighting games
>>339962815
Japs think Riptor is cute, that's it.
>>339977536
SG doesn't have any money to give him, Mike Z is hoarding all the jew gold he earned and only spending a little on pigs he dresses up
>>339977536
All of those games combined don't equal the money ESL and NRS pumps into MK
>>339976860
This looks REALLY fukken boring to play compared to Naruto. And I don't see any combos being used just flashy attacks.
>>339977331
Prize pool barely compensates for most players travel expense to the tournament, so they don't think it's worth the trip
>>339961505
There are more people playing casual games than hardcore games. What a shocker.
>>339977151
I like Smash games and speedrunning, but I just like Nintendo in general.
SF is fun, but none of my friends play it.
>>339977858
>Narutards
I dont even give a fuck about pokken but seriously, leave.
>>339977858
You're an idiot, please go.
The "FGC hates Smash" meme hasn't been true since 2011, only meme spouting fucktards on /v/ have tried to keep this "rivalry" going.
>>339977858
>>339961505
I miss the arcade days where everyone made fun of DOA and smash.
You mean that an FGC formed at all?
You kept sucking their cocks for playing a game one specific way for which it wasn't even built. No one to blame but yourselves.
>>339961505
>SFV is a disaster that lost everyone that wasn't already a SF fan
>Tekken is barely alive outside of Asia and 7 is arcade only
>Anime FGC would rather complain than play their games
>KI is stuck on X1 and W10
since they allow smash now, what other comedy brawlers should added to the roster?
Fighters Megamix?
Streets of Rage?
Rise of the Robots?
Double Dragon?
>>339975439
>Where SFV has more entrants than any other game?
Uh oh, he doesn't know...
Street Fighter V is easy af thats why it has the most EVO entrants :d
I hope we get more things like CEOtaku so SF can be left in the dust. Platinum can be the new figurehead for fighting games.
>>339979643
The Xenoverse games deserve a slot.
>>339961505
>everything under Tekken 7
lol
>>33997785
So you're just shitposting for the sake of shitposting, ok then.
>>339980037
Could also add
Chess Boxing
Simpsons Wrestling
WWE 201X (new game every year very nice!)
There's a long list of "high skill" """""fighting""""" games just like Smash
>>339980165
You clearly have no idea how complex Melee can be
>>339980135
Tekken's free to enter. Without that, it probably would have been at the bottom. Glad to see that many people want to give Tekken a shot though
>>339961505
>KI so low
Makes me feel bad that the best is so underplayed because of the Xbones shitty launch decisions
>>339980005
never watched an anime fighter but I wonder how uncomfortable the streamers get when a loli is on screen
>>339980716
There is no reason to be ashamed, everyone who plays anime fighters give in to the loli
>>339980587
For real. I never watched KI before EVO 2015 but it was my favorite event that year by far
>>339974819
You can't be serious. He's Mr. Fighting Game. He's the alternative face to Capcom other than MegaMan.
>>339981064
It's great. Counter breakers get me so fucking excited
>Pokken scene died in less than 3 months.
Letting Pokken into EVO was a mistake
>>339962281
"no"
>>339974491
the fucks that old lady doing
>>339980898
No one gives a crap about Platinum except you shit-poster.
>>339980165
What exactly is your problem with Melee? That it's harder than the regular fighting game? Did uncle Ninty touch you somewhere? Do you hate pikachu or something?
>>339982067
>he thinks he can resist
>>339981341
The game is one and done at EVO unless they expand to more games/days. People regged for new game hype buy I don't think it's gonna be back. No one is at the few locals that exist for the game
>>339981812
playing the stick guitar.
RIP DoA and Soul Calibur, I'll mourn you but not nearly enough to want to buy your £50 costume packs
>>339982683
kek that one cracked me up
>>339971002
>PK Flash
>Against Pickachus recovery
Shit player.
Sorry Tr4shfags have taken over but Melee players don't attend tournaments where we aren't treated fairly
Nintendo should just make their own Tournaments.
That would take 52% of all participants and kill the "Mainstream" styling and revert the FGC to Niche only.
>>339971891
Examples.
>>339984047
>Tr4sh meme
Everyone enters smash alongside whatever they actually came for because it has almost no barrier to entry. I do the same at my locals even though I never play smash4 outside of them.
>>339961667
Nothing
You Melee fags are never fucking satisfied
>Talking shit about KI
Fuck you
>>339984889
>70 entrances
A thousand different games would get more participation and hype.
God i cant wait for KoF14 to take its shitty place.
>Nintendo Games: 52%
>Street Fighter: 24%
>Tekken: 8%
>Mortal Kombat: 4%
>GG Xrd 4%
>UMvC3 3%
>KI 2%
capcucks: europe
smashfags: refugees
who else sees this parallel?
>>339985563
tfw Namco/TNirrelevantrace
>>339985563
Definitely, smelly fucks showing up where they're not wanted.
>>339985563
Smashfags run a shit ton of their own events though. Anime players are more like refugees
>>339961505
>Street Fighter
>show up to tournaments all over the country
>are competing in a league sanctioned and run by Capcom
>Smashfags
>only show up to evo
>using mom's credit card for entry fee
>>339986068
>Only show up to EVO
Did you even look at the OP image?
>>339964270
I really like how you fail to see the sheer irony within your post
>>339968761
Can vouch for this, going to UCF atm and it's huge
>>339977482
Not hating something isn't the same as not liking something and an opinion isn't a fact.
Go look up old SRK posts, everything has been said years ago and I'm not wasting my time to pull it up for some tumblrite. You should have seen what crying prejudice with baseless assumptions has done for college activities, film, and gaming as a whole. Please don't start claiming people are gook haters because they don't want to throw money at you.
>>339985734
>>339985563
Anime is definitely refugees or dindus.
>>339961505
WE WUZ
>>339962589
>Using the Windows Store ever
It's not on PC till it's on Steam.
Smash is an American dominated game. Games like Xrd are niche and the strongest players all currently reside in Japan.
>>339967663
>tripfag
>fucking retarded
Pick one and only one.
these are honestly the dark ages of fighting games
smash babies overruning the scene
sf5 is trash
mkx isnt medicore and a 50/50 fest
and killer instinct and tekken 7 are actually decent but nobody gives a shit about them
we'd better have a rennsiance soon. exile smash diapers, fix sf5, make fighting games great again
>>339991489
>I don't play fighting games the post
I bet you bought Last Blade 2 too.
I hope SFV fucking dies after EVO. Its a poorly designed mess that isnt only lacking in content but has its own problems gameplay wise. The shit is so boring even high level play is sleep inducing to watch. A game that promised back to fundamentals gameplay but wakeup jabs and YOLO jump-ins are encouraged is a huge mess. Maybe capcucks should stop pretending the game is good and stop enabling this sort of poor quality product
>>339989274
KANGZ
Anyone one watching Jebailey and the KI community flinging shit at each other on twitter?
>>339961667
Street Fighter was always shit
