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Why did we, as a community, let things get this bad?
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Why did we, as a community, let things get this bad?
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>>339961505
is this the number of entrants per game?
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>>339961505
>Pokken Tournament above actual fighting games
>Smash 4 about both Street Fighters combined
>Killer Instinct there at all
>Melee can't beat SFV let alone Smash 4

What the fuck is going on with the FGC
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>>339961667
>People like things that I don't like! WHATS GOING ON?!
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>>339961505
>marvel outlived sf4
>people still play mk
>meleefags btfo
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People are losing interest in the genre.
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>>339961858
>Games the FGC allegedly hate above games the FGC love
>This isn't cause for alarm

Anon, pls
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>>339961667
what's wrong with KI
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>>339962060

It's on Xbox and has a TINY community.
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>>339961605
Pre-registration.

>>339961993
Smash players actually show up to tournaments despite mostly keeping it to themselves.
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>>339961667
Smash 4 historically does better at FGC based events than Melee for whatever reason. USF4 has no entrants because people have moved on to SF5. Smash 4 was the biggest event last year too so I'm not all that surprised.
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>>339961667
SFV failed to make an impact because of Capcom fuck ups so now fighting games are dying.
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>>339961912
>>meleefags btfo
Not really. In FGC events Smash 4 always gets mroe entrants, but in Smash focused majors Melee has the higher player count.
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>>339962212
>USF4 has no entrants because people have moved on to SF5.

Can't play both?

There's plenty of Melee players that play Smash4 and vice-versa.
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>>339961993
if they really hate the games why are they playing them?
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>>339961993
Fuck off reds you aren't wanted here
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I haven't met anybody that played fighters bar a group of 6 people at my university's game room a while back

but i can't turn my fucking head without seeing Smash everywhere. Every installment besides (vanilla) Brawl, including PM, everywhere where there's some form of gaming "subculture" gathering for lack of better word
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>>339962305

Playing what? The most vocal and "core" FGC despise anything that isn't MvC and USF4.
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I think the most important thing here is that Tekken 7 has that many players despite not even being out officially.
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>>339962212
more normies
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>>339962359

Make me.
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>>339962281
The grand majority of SF4 players moved on. And Smash 4/Melee have low crossover numbers.
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>>339961505
Xrd will never generate the hype BB did at EVO 2014. Hell, nothing might. Biggest pot, best finals ever, most drama and emotion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrvY6BbiUE0

Whiny /v/ermin complaining about how much more "weeb" BB is than GG aren't players/viewers/etc.
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>>339962140
It's on PC now as well. Rev up that Windows 10 install though.
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>>339962281
That's actually not all that true. Melee and Smash 4 tend to have very little crossover, they're pretty much two separate communities that just get grouped together because they're both Smash games.
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>>339961667

I have a friend who's big into MKXL, XRD, and T7. He never mentions or says shit about Smash players ever.

The FGC as a whole doesn't seem to roundly give to shits about them.
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>>339962589
Anything exclusively on the Xbone or W10 are dead to me. I fucking refuse.
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Why are people still giving REDS attention. he's fucking retarded
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>>339962583
Meh, I've been more hyped before
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>>339962140

It's on PC now and it's a game known for getting a lot of on day registrations over pre-registrations.. It pulls around the same level of viewers on twitch as anime as well (It's also really popular with Japanese streams for a weird reason)
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>>339961505
Took a few minutes for me to figure out what the fuck PT was. Just say Pokken you fags.
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>>339962589
Already did.
formatted my just to play it.
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>>339962692
See you in 3 months when [GAME YOU WANT] comes out
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>>339962650
>Anecdotal evidence

Okay anon.

Do a little research and you'll see your friends are the exception not the rule.

>>339962815
>It's on PC now and it's a game known for getting a lot of on day registrations over pre-registrations

Proof?
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>>339962860
Twitter has like a 140 character limit or something so they have to cut corners.
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>>339961505
>Melee
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>>339962396
There are random posters for Smash sessions at my university. Never seen one for regular fighting games.
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>>339962754
Because new people come who don't know who REDS is and they just see an idiot. Everyone who's been here a few years knows he has a long track record of being retarded but you can go a long time without seeing him only to have him pop up in random places.
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Honestly it makes sense. Smash 4 has the smallest entry barrier. Casualfags who watch one tournament and play for glory will think they have a chance, they perceive it as more of a level playing field.
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>>339961505
>we
>community
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>>339962994

Proof is that you should look it up yourself.
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>>339962396
A lot of people at my uni who play smash 4 play other fighters too, KI, SFV, PT (Obviously)
I don't think anyone who plays Smash 4 plays it exclusively.
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>FGC hasnt been trash for years
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>>339962592
>Melee and Smash 4 tend to have very little crossover

What are you basing this on?
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>>339962212
>Smash 4 historically does better at FGC based events than Melee for whatever reason.

More people play Smash 4, it's not really surprising that it's more popular.
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>>339962396
Smash is actively trying to get bigger every month.

The FGC is not doing shit and getting stagnant as fuck, whenever they like to admit it or not.

In 20+ years the FGC did not thought of Visas, Leagues, floating players, etc. and all of the above are current topics on the Smash community right now. It anything but their fault.
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>>339961505
I see nothing wrong with this.
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>>339963129
>Can't back up his comments

Okay then.
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>>339962212
More Smash 4 players play actual fighting games. Meanwhile Melee diehards have a hard time grasping the concept that other games exist
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>>339963186
The fact that Mr. Wizard said last year that Melee and Smash 4 have very little crossover plus you can take a look at literally any event's registration and see there are very few people that play both games?
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'competitive' smash 4 is so fucking dull
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>>339963259
It actually isn't. For some reason it gets more players but never more views. It pretty weird.
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>>339963281

In the time it took you to type out that reply you could have googled it and found your answer.
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>>339963315
Mad gaylee fag is about mad af
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>>339961505
>SFVfags BTFO
>Meleefags BTFO
>Marvelfags BTFO
>KIfags... do they even exist?
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smash 4 is way easier to get into than even the admittedly casualized SFV, sold more units, and features (comparatively) more original gameplay. i don't like the game but its not rocket science as to why its so popular.
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>>339963443

Or you could back up your own comments and post a source instead of mindlessly replying.

>>339963305

But Evo 2015 had a lot of cross over.
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PT? Like the horror demo? What?
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>KI

Wew lad.

But the reason is because the prize pot is abysmally small or something. KI had more entrants than Melee at Combobreaker last month. No clue what's up with IG and MS, last year they were in the ball with the community but this year it's like "figure it out yourselves"
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>>339963281
https://twitter.com/smashgg/status/681568001930444800

Here
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>>339963315
So is MURRVUL and SF4, but you don't complain because MUH CAPCUM FIGHTERS!
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>>339963529
Pokken Tournament
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>>339961505
So CEO really is a smash major now
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>>339963559
>>339963483

i dont play any of those games.
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>mfw Nintendo takes over the fighting game genre
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>>339961667
>KI there at all
On top of being an autistic tripfag, you also have shit taste in fightan. Awesome.
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>>339963591
It'll happen to EVO too.
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The only reason Sm4sh has so many entrants is because it has a hilariously low Skill Ceiling, only supported by mindgames and ZeRo's Scarf.
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>>339961667
The FGC refuses to play non-Capcom games even though SFV has failed at almost everything it attempted
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street fighter 6 anyone?
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>>339963528

>back up your own comments

what the fuck are you talking about? it's not some argument you can prove wrong you autistic clown. It's literally been on PC for months.
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>>339963558

Was that so hard?
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>>339963373
Not really. The game is easier and less intimidating to get into, and less exciting to watch. Makes perfect sense.
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>>339963745
>It's literally been on PC for months.
>it's a game known for getting a lot of on day registrations over pre-registrations

Prove this comment.
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>>339963635
You don't play Sm4sh either you stupid faggot piece of shit.
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>>339963761
Anything for you to stop posting.
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>>339961667
It's not the FGC anymore. It's the Smash Community now.
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>>339963591

Well run FGC tournaments turn into Smash Majors, it's inevitable. If you want FGC with minimal smasher go to Big E/Shin Blanka events.
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I blame Capcom.
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>>339963761
I wasn't the guy you kept replying to I just found a source and posted it
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>>339962398
so what? normal fgc has no issue with newer games
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>>339963950

Good man
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>>339964002
>normal fgc

Literally doesn't exist. FGC, by definition, aren't normal. They're elitist fags.
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>>339963838
>At FGC events

Sorry I missread. However If I had to say a reason Melee gets less entrants on FGC events it's because the best of 3 up to Top 8, and that Melee has more events of their own. That's the reason nobody went to Combo Breaker, GOML and Dream Hack were that month.

Regarding CEO, WTFox is like a week later and some players think of going to that one because it has 3/5 on Top 32. Like it should be.
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>>339961667
Pokken Tournament is an actual fighting game, though. The only people who say this have never played it.
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>>339964104
So they're the "norm." Christ, you're retarded.
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>>339963715
>Low skill ceiling
>One guy has won 56 tournaments in a row
Lol?
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So Melty Blood's going to be payed in the bathroom of the nearest Denny's right?
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>>339963842

enjoy your fisher-price '''''''fighting''''''' game :^)
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>>339964167
>The only people who say this have never played it

Didn't one of the developers literally say it wasn't a fighting game? I imagine he's played it.
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>>339961505
It's time to abandon EVO or accept that the new player base generation hates fighting games that are actually good and move on.
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>>339961505
>There are STILL people on /v/ who don't think Smash is a fighting game
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>>339964297
We'll also enjoy taking fighting game's spots at EVO my friend :-)
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>>339963842

i tend not to play bad games.
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>>339964337
It's a party game.
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>>339964308
>Didn't one of the developers literally say it wasn't a fighting game?
Source?
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So Smash is confirmed as a meme game?
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>>339964337
It's not

It's better
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>>339964436
>Sakurai says Smash Bros. isn't a fighting game, 'completely different label'.

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jun/21/sakurai-says-smash-bros-isnt-fighting-game-completely-different-label-talks-game-development-fighting-genre-and-value-unpredictability/
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>>339964167
This. It's one of the weirdest fucking things I've played but it's certainly fightan. Nothing like those shitty Naruto arena games everyone compares it too.
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>>339964436

https://mynintendonews.com/2016/02/18/take-a-look-at-the-pokken-developer-interview-with-hoshino-and-harada/
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>>339964297
And you enjoy yours

I'm sure you only play Melee to be part of a fad
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SF community the only one that actually puts some effort in to rival the Smash players.

Those Mortal Kombat and GG numbers are disgraceful.
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>>339964656

i don't play that garbage either

nintendo should stick to making mario and zelda
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>>339964667
>SF community the only one that actually puts some effort in to rival the Smash players.

Kinda. Last year if you would've tell me that Melee/Smash 4 was going to beat SFV at EVO viewers, I would've call you a mad man. Now, I'm not sure.
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>>339961505
Just goes to show that the FGC is a fucking joke. Shit needs to hurry up and finally be put to rest.
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>>339964598
He calls it a fighting game repeatedly through the video. You likely fell for a clickbait headliner that blows a line out of proportion.
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>>339964902
>Now, I'm not sure.
I'm pretty sure it'll surpass SFV viewers.
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>>339964337
>all smash players are too bullheaded to say it's not so we can coexist in harmony
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>>339964275
In the bathroom of the nearest Waffle House
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>>339962650
>doesn't play SF

You're friend is actually a decent human being unlike the trash that make up the core of the FGC.
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>>339965000

Oh, I know there was no proof in that video.
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>>339965142
Now that's going too far.
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>>339964902
it is going to beat it just like sf4 beit it last year
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Melee is my favorite
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>>339961505
The KI community is awful. Imagine if Jebailey dropped the game next year for Skullgirls or something they would all bitch and moan but no one shows up
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>>339965185
So the classic "I was only pretending to be retarded"
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>>339965213
I don't know anon. Melee it's getting bigger by the day. And SFV it's getting worse.
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>>339964902
Sm4sh will maybe hit 85k viewers at evo. Last year it peaked at 75 during GF's. Melee hit 100k, SFIV was at like 120k or something.
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>>339962907
>>339962589
I fucking did it but it still wont play for me because teredo is ass.
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>we
>community
These words. You're a shitty conformist type person, aren't you? All this "we" bullshit. Go live in your societal prison like the societal slave you are, shitty conformist.
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>>339965316

Not at all.
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>>339963186
I'm kinda into the smash community and they fucking hate each other.
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>>339965353
Melee had 216k, and SFV up to 250k. Give or take.

Then again early this year Melee had 115k on a Melee only event. That's crazy.
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>>339965548
>Genesis was a Melee only event
??? I know you guys live in your own little world but the tournament was huge for 64 and Wii U as well
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>>339963186
Not him but they play very differently. Melee is mostly about rushing down your opponent>comboing them to death, or waiting for them to mess up>comboing them to death.
Sm4sh is more neutral based I guess. It's a lot of jumping around and getting grabs into easy d-throw confirms. At high percentages, you either have to read where they're going to go, or hope that they mess up their DI on your last throw confirm. Unless you're M2K, playing both games would totally mess with your mind on what's good and what's not.
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>>339965760
I meant Melee centric. English is hard, leave me alone.
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>>339961505
>Money
>Esports Status

Pick either one and you're right.
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Why does Smash 4 have so many entrants anyway? Doesn't the game have little depth? Is the prizepool really big or something?
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>>339965928
>put little effort in easy game
>win shitloads of money

Hmmm
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>>339965928
>Doesn't the game have little depth?
Hence all the entrants.
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>>339965928
Everyone who does well in For Glory thinks they have a good chance.
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>>339965928
Prizepools are bigger, yes. It's an easier game to get into, if you didn't start out with Melee, that is. Very little tech skill required. I legit think those 20XX/"Tech skill is important" memes scare the younger players from trying out Melee.
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>>339965980
>Smash
>Shitloads of money
>Anyone but Top 10 players beating Zero in GFs
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>The entire fighting game scene was apparently kept afloat by SF4 alone

>Now that SF5 is shit everything crumbles
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>>339966754
Everything but Smash. Smash will be the fighting game scene.
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If "players" of other games actual went out to play and host their own events instead of botching about Smash or SF then this would have never happened.

Is anyone surprised the most popular games are from communities that run most of the tournaments in country? If you build it, they will come.
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at this rate smash is gonna replace the FGC at evo
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>>339966860
Xrd is a scary anime weeb game it will never garner the popularity even though its the superior game in almost all aspects
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>>339965094
>all fg players are too bullheaded to say it is so we can coexist in harmony
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>>339965419
Then you are actually retarded
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>>339961505
At least KI is bottom tier, should die soon. Microsoft make better fighting game for Xbox.
>>339962258
>capcom
Dethrone the king, they might be pioneers but don't deserve the title anymore.
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who would've thought a casual as fuck game with next to no balance and consideration for tournaments would beat out games that have had decades of community and the devs of those games actually balance and play test everything
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>>339965928
>Why does Smash 4 have so many entrants anyway?
>Doesn't the game have little depth?
That makes perfect sense, what are you even asking? The easier game gets more players because casuals can play against better players and don't feel like they're getting their shit pushed in.
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>>339965353
It was also on at 10am.
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>>339961505
the less complex something is the lower barrier of entry
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>>339967896
You must be 18 years or older to post here
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>event in florida
>Sm4sh being the most popular

Nothing is new here, that's "their" game. Fucking fraud state.
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>>339965928
It has plenty depth. It's also easy to start out with. That's why it's such a good and popular game.

Most of the characters being viable helps too.
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>>339968184
I am 18, what's your point?
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>>339961505
XRD, yay!
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>>339967073
or maybe it's because the thousands of people who dickride it online are too lazy to actually play game.


I'll never understand why anime players expect people to stop everything they're doing to play their game and host their events. Do it yourself.
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>>339961505
Smash has an event like every 5 days if you want big numbers you have to support it. MK still gives out good money for the few that play it.

Wish more people played Xrd but it doesn't have the same kind of support the devs give the Japs. Plus new fags can't YRC.
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>>339961993
>>339961667

I live in Florida. The Smash scene in Florida is fucking massive and the FGC scene is pretty small comparatively. Smash has more top players than the FGC and it's really easy for Smash to get big since most of the scenes are based around USF/FSU/UF/UCF/Miami so you have a bunch of high school and college kids showing up
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>>339961505
>KI -70
kek remember when people said this would be the new hotness since it got a PC port and SFV launched like shit? It has less entrants than two dead games and one game thats not even on consoles.
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explain how the fuck KI got into evo but the hundreds of anime fighting fans can't have a single anime fighter?

fucking persona had over 400 people last time and KI cant even get 100

explain this fucking shit
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>>339968818
anime doesn't get views, neither does KI but anime moreso
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>>339968818
Xrd
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>>339968818
Devbucks
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>>339968968
Xrd doesnt even count, Persona is a real fighter
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>>339962583
Last year's xrd grand finals got a spot on espn though.
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>>339965142
Thanks I'll be sure to attend
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>>339962060
Nothing but the xbone and w10 exclusivity is probably taking its toll. I find it really fun desu
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>>339968818
>explain how the fuck KI got into evo

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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>>339969009
MS didn't pay the guys at EVO this year, they even said most their money this year from Capcom and Sony.
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>>339969280
Once again, MS did not pay EVO guys this year for advertisement and shit like they have the past two years. Don't be pissed the KI community bigger than the Marvel and SF community now with PC support.
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>>339969296
I thought Nintendo/NoA was throwing around a lot of money and sponsorship's for smash 4
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>>339961993
vocal minority, the FGC loves Smash
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>>339969423
nigga no one care about smash
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>>339969296
Than it's them giving the game a last chance before it gets the boot in 2017. The PC release didn't do shit. All the FGC talking heads endlessly praise the game but no one actually enters it at tounaments
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>shiller shitstink
>mortal kombat
>2 smash party brawlers
>pokemon fightan

fucking hell this is going to be one boring evo. in future it needs to be just capcom fighters and anime fighters, everything else straight out banned desu
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>Tekken will be the king

Feels good baby!
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>>339968818
Mr. Wizard literally hates Japan, Anime and will only tolerate Capcom, while everyone else who wants to host their game at main stage better have lots of money to front event costs. Only Arcsys has the income to host.
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>>339968818
KI has no prize pool for CEO, it had good attendance at combobreaker
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>>339969805
When will some sort of fat related disease take him?
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>>339963049
>melee
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>>339969686
>WAAAH STAHP STEALING MUH SFV PLAYERZ!

This insecurity, holy shit.
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>>339969887
Apparently all he eats when he goes over to Japan is Mcdonalds so if he travels enough, pretty soon I imagine.
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>>339961981

Yep, I'm starting to think SFV wasn't a success because people are loosing interests to fighters as opposed to lack of content.
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>>339962396
Because Smash is easy to pick up and its accessible. You can be relatively good at it without having to actually own a Wii U and just play at a friends house or something.
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>>339969805
Almost every fighter on there is Japanese, what are you talking about?
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>>339970108

ha ha good one

what i actually meant is all of those games are boring as shit to watch. I'd take KoF, GG, BB etc over western trash or anything nintendo
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>>339961505
>Marvel
That's just sad.
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>>339969887
>>339969805
animefags and SJWs are two peas in a pod
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>>339970229
And Mr. Wizard hates all of them except Capcom. Anything he allows is to make him money, and only Arcsys has the income from animedevs to front costs.
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>>339961505
Isnt sm4sh going to steal the better timeslot now from melee?
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>>339970359
>no capitalization
>no puntuation
>ha ha
Underage shitposter confirmed. you love these babes (You) dont you?
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>>339970615
>Steal
Melee never had the better timeslot this year. Sm4sh was on top from the get go
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>>339961505
>a party game is more popular than a fightan game
who woulda thunk it
>FGC
>'"we"
lol, the fgc was always bad, as soon as videogames became "sports" it has been shit ever since. dont even deny it, the focus on competitveness led SFV to the state it is today.
this is the future you chose.
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>Fighting Game Cuckolds

MY
FUCKING
SIDES
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>>339970770
Melee brings in more than twice the viewers. And its fucking retarded that melee gets the worse timeslot.

I hope all the top melee players boycott this mess of an event.
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Smash Players show up to tournaments, enter actual fighting game pools on the side, and get fucking bodied. It makes the pot bigger for actual FG players so it's not so bad.
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>>339970592
you want to know why there aren't a billion anime games at Evo?

Because it's a tournament ran by Capcom and KI fans. They have zero duty or responsibility to babysit other games and any they add they do of their own free will.
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>>339961667

Pokken Tournament is an actual fighting game.
SFV sucks, so it's not surprising that Smash with it's extremely autistic but devoted fanbase is kicking it's ass.
Killer Instinct isn't shit, but it shouldn't be above Virtua or MvC2.
Melee is shit.
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>animeNEETs think they're part of the FGC

>>339968818
get cucked, shitter.
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>>339963715

>Game is only supposed by ZeRo

>didn't attend a major for months
>didn't win GOML when he came back
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>>339963373
The meta for melee has been developing for the past 15 years it's been out. It takes a lot of time to catch up compared to sm4sh.
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>>339962951
>[GAME YOU WANT]
>MS exclusive
I don't want anything now, I don't see anything in the future either. Show me some hot exclusives that aren't KI or Quantum Break.
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>>339971039
Yes thank you retard for rewording what I just said. Is there anything else you'd like to add that was already explained by me with less clarity.
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>>339971002
whoever made this has never played smash competitively

>i'll use PK flash

kek
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>>339971218
Why people still pretend to like mvc2? Its a shit game thats its only praised bu people that grow up with it and has success in it, even top players admit is a piece of broken garabage and like it mostly out of nostalgia and because it generated hype to the casual observer
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>>339971002
Are there people out there who really believe this image, or is it just elaborate bait?
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>>339971634
Yeah, quit playing the goddamn victim like some tumblr blog and make your own tournament. People don't like you so they're going to avoid you as much as possible without being burned themselves for discrimination.
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Poor KI
It deserves a much bigger crowd. Best game after SFV
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>>339968818
Because KI is actually good.
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>>339962140
Oh it's the tripfag who hates anything from MS
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>Nintendo is taking over EVO

Just like horsefuckerrs took over the Four chen cup. Or furfaggs took over every porn project on patreoon.

Allowing Smash was a mistake.
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>>339971810
Oh, so because Mr. Wizard hates anime I am acting like a victim? I'm not pissy. It's why Evo never gets tons of anime rep. It's why Animeevo grew into what it did. Stating facts doesn't make me pissy. I have no problem with anything at EVO, and from my perspective you seem to be the one with a victim complex so why don't you take your own advice, and stop over-reacting when someone points out why anime isn't at EVO beyond a single game.
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>3 Smash games on one EVO are more likely than Blazblue and Guilty Gear appearing at the same time
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>>339971968
Theres an alterative dimension where skullgirl won the 8 place at evo 2013 instead of smash, we got 2 years of it until it died and then we got wathever indie game of the moment and smash fags stayed in thei autistic little circle instead of invading the fgc, man, what i would give to live in that world
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>>339961505
What do you mean?

Smash always does very well at CEO
SFV has been getting very good numbers
Most games there haven't got an update out in time or are not even out (Tekken)

The only really bad bits are MKX and KI, but those have been dead for ages
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>>339972327
t. 09er that doesn't remember Smash was at EVO before 2013.

Smash would have still been there by 2014 or 2015
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>>339963528
>But Evo 2015 had a lot of cross over.
Wizard specifically stated that there wasn't.
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>>339972125
Evo is a fan tournament. It was made by Capcom players for Capcom players, everything else is just extra. Wizard could give a fuck about your games, but your community has proven time and time again to be cancerous as fuck. You faggots threw the largest hissy fit in the world when he didn't want to buy Slash, then when he set a schedule you didn't want, and finally when he dropped GG.

You have a victim complex because you honestly believe because someone doesn't want to invest thousands of dollars in a game they don't even play for people he doesn't even hang out with means they're hateful and spiteful.

Imagine if the Smash community just twiddle their thumbs like retards before and after Evo stopped hosting Smash? Where would they be today? Probably as dead as your favorite game.
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Why don't they let Naruto Storm games in if they allow 2 Autismo Bros games?
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>>339972935
naruto is shit
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>>339969089
>Last year's xrd grand finals got a spot on espn though.
No it didn't, Woshige's moment in Top 8 did. Woshige didn't even make Grand Finals, he had a Loser's Bracket run where he then lost LF against Nage iirc.
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Actually rooting for KI and MK, they should be higher than PT.
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>>339963269
>floating players
yeah what a great idea, lets stop upsets and stagnate who gets in the top 8
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>>339963269
I guess that is why SFV has 4000+ at evo, the scene just isn't growing
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>>339972596
Yes, melee was one year in 07, then brawl one year at 08 and then never again, it was a passing fad, just like poken is this year or persona was last year, and after that it never was again until the donation drive in 2013 you fucking faggot
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Smash doesn't need EVO, EVO needs Smash
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>>339972995
The games are pretty fum.
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>>339962396
>>339963052
>>339962396
that is wrong with universities in these time:
party to play video games...
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>>339971002
Everything on both sides of this bait image is inaccurate.

>I'll try PK Flash
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>>339972854
Nigger please. GG got dropped one year yet had a side tournament at EVO with more entrants than half the main stage games, especially VF5 which had no business being there. GG was even beating MvC2 at most tournaments at this time.
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>>339973064
Top Melee players never get upset in Round 1 pools at Majors, ever. It simply does not happen.
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>>339973520
>especially VF5 which had no business being there

Come on now
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Can't wait to hear CEO and EVO crowds OHOHOHOHOHO
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>>339972854
So in short, again, you agree with me Wizard hates anime and is part of why anime is not repped, but do so in argumentative way that is full of baseless assumptions, some of which I've already stated is wrong. In fact, since we're repeating ourselves, I do not have a victim complex, and I do not have a problem with anything at EVO currently.

I'm not sure why you accusing other of a victim complex when you clearly have a seriously chip on your shoulder, yourself but you should probably calm down since childish behavior like this is exactly what you're presumably trying to condemn..
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If you want to do something about it then enter, faggot.
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>>339973239
yeah the games are pretty fun
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>>339973594
Which means your scene is stagnant and that more people need to get on their level, gating them off won't help that cause people will never get to play against them and have less chance to talk with them

Your basically saying these pools don't really mater so the good people can just come in and play later
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>>339973950
I'm going to blow your mind here.

Pools never matter.
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>>339961667
Smash and Pokken are really accessible and popular so there's bound to be a lot of people who play it.
Also Capcom has been doing a horrible job with SFV which has made a lot of people lose interest.
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>>339961505

Why the fuck is SFV so high? That piece of shit should be at zero. You gay Daigo, Fuudo,etc. lovers need to kill yourselves
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>>339972284
>3 smash games

what?
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>>339972854
>Evo is a fan tournament.
not anymore.
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>>339973950
Pools literally don't matter. It's just a way to fund the tournament and keep it open bracket. I don't remember the last time a Top 50 player lost in Pools
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>>339973773
>mfw JWong gets BTFO once the Koreans and Japs roll back into town

He's been beating up on nothing but Americans lately.
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>>339974213
I'm going to blow your mind here

For other games they do as their is talent across the scene, having only a few people be good and then having them skip matches basically confirming them to get in the top spots is just going to cause more stagnation
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>>339974379
Daigo isn't even good in SFV dummy
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>>339961505
I'm glad to see all the support pokken has gotten in under 4 months. Just hope it isn't infested with chandelures and suicunes.
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>>339974624
i've yet to actually see any major level pokken play
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>>339971796

Exact same thing can be said for U/MvC3, T7, and XRD.
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>>339974501
>For other games they do
lol
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remember when ryu being in sm4sh got leaked, half of the subreddit had no idea who he was nor did they recognize his theme song
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>>339974213
>>339974481
Pools matter in other fg beacuse as opposed to smash, the general player isnt a complete shitter whos only contribution to the scene is sucking the dick out of a group of top players and not actually playing the game to get better
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>>339974501
>Stagnation
It's literally been the same 5 people winning tournaments since 2008 with one guy challenging them in the past 3 years. Pools or No Pools doesnt change anything. Im talking 600+ man tournaments which happen every month
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>>339973520
GG got dropped because the community was being faggots and instead of owning up to it you put 100% on Marn and spammed/DDOS the fuck out of SRK.

Smash got booted once too and they did their own thing instead of leeching.

>>339973871
Hey man, I'm not the one crying hate crimes against anime. But keep me updated on EVO's bribery and other conspiracy theories on your tumblr.
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How the fuck can a shit game like Pokken get in but Naruto Storm can't? Might as well since you're allowing Nintenturds to ruin EVO.
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>>339974763
Oh I guess Luffy didn't go out in pools in sfv that one time, or snake eyez or that whole hell pool thing at final round which saw a load of pro go out. Nope none of these recent events happened

>>339974947
Your scene has lots of issues, I'm just pointing out this won't help and just secure that there is not going to be significant new players cause older more experienced ones get a leg up
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>>339975164
>Luffree
>and a Gief player
You're not helping your case here lad
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>>339974719
Non of those games reach the level of brokeness garbage mvc2 has, heck, the only game in that list that can be considered broken is umvc3 and it still has way more chars represented in top lavel play, a mid-low tier team won evo last year and only one char (haggar) has a reapeted evo win
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Does Pokken actually have a following, or is this going to be flavor of the month? Surprised to even see it on the list.
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when you can't control your crowd, people make new crowds
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