is he right?
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is he right?
>>339959707
This is stupid because Overwatch features a shitload of microtransactions in addition to not being F2P. Pick ONE Blizzard.
>>339959707
>comparing anything to cinema tickets
cinema tickets are the most overpriced thing ever, and don't get me started on the price of popcorn etc before you walk in.
>this Mcdonalds combo was gross and costed $10
>BUT HEY IF I WENT TO A MICHELIN RESTAURANT I WOULD HAVE SPENT AT LEAST $200!
>>339959838
>microtransactions for harmless cosmetics
???
>>339960154
I always bring my own food to cinema, bagged popcorn or crisps and something to drink.
I compare it to kilograms of gold. A kilogram of gold is like $40k right now, and Overwatch™ is only 1/1000th of that!
It's a steal! Buy Overwatch™ today!
>>339960324
who cares, they still make money from it.
>>339959707
>a porn bluray costs $20
>a minute of enjoyment
>another $100/hour for lube, batteries etc
>$1300 per hour
>overwatch is only $40
>after 2 minutes of play I save $1300 an hour played
Get rich quick! Buy overwatch™ NOW!
>cinema ticket comparisons
>>339960324
>cutting off content for people who paid full price for a game
wew
>>339959838
Arent all the microtransactions cosmetic?
>>339960324
>What's wrong with spending more money after you've paid $40 up front?
>>339959707
>not buying EU4+expansions for $100 dollars, playing for 1000 hours, and getting literally ten hours for every dollar
>>339961630
The only """"content"""" you can't get without paying extra are the origin edition skins.
I usually do the same comparison but comparing it to a night out or something
I paid 150 local moneys for OW, a night out drinking and eating would cost me at least 100. Even though OW is more expensive, it's giving me more enjoyment than that, so it's ok by me
>hours of fun/$
Always hate that dumb reasoning. You never see anyone use it for things outside of video games, especially freemium games
I can't imagine that anyone would defend a 80$ price tag on a cheap ass board game just because "I play it a lot with my friends." or a 200$ basketball just because "I've got hundreds of hours of fun out of it" or a screwdriver for 50 dolllars because "I like to build stuff and that screwdriver will help me get years of enjoyment".
Shit's retarded. Everything could be worth hundreds of bucks by that logic, even a fucking movie could be worth a fortune if you rewatch it every day of your life.
>>339960324
They're taking advantage of people with little self control.
>>339959707
I don't buy movie tickets either, because I think they're too expensive for what you get. You can measure entertainment in 'cinema tickets' but don't expect *me* to. I buy video games when/because they represent good entertainment value for the money.
>implying that the amount of fun you have with a game justifies a high/unfair price
>cinema ticket comparison
>>339960584
>>339963995
these are not valid complaints
grow the fuck up
>the value you are going to get out of a game like this depends on how long you intend to keep playing
>for those people still sitting on the proverbial fence, the question is "do you see yourself playing this 6 months down the track"
>If you had to think about that answer, even for a second, Overwatch may not be the game for you
He is right
>>339964368
Gggmanlives is the fucking man.
>Is Overwatch overpriced?
Yes, it shouldn't be $60 if you're going to compare it to other $60 games and the amount of content they provide. The reality is though people are willing to pay that much for it, so they do. It's not fair but neither is life and this is how the market works. If you had a following of millions of people and you could get away selling them an overpriced product because they really want it, you're going to have a hard time telling the suits that control your salary that the game should be sold for less.
>>339959707
I make videogames now for no profit since it's my hobby. Get a real job, scrub.
>>339959707
>Jollyjack
The furry artist Jolly "NO IM NOT A FURRY NOW BUY MY SICK ASS FURRY FETISH PORN WHILE I ATTENTIONWHORE ON /co/" Jack?
>>339959707
Cinema tickets are overpriced to begin with, but even so, the two mediums of entertainment are not comparable. A cinema ticket is both a product and an experience. The product is the movie, and the experience is the gigantic screen and great sound system. You can't get that by watching a movie at home.
Overwatch is a product only, and it should be priced as such. There should be a lot more content for that price tag.
Furthermore, you could be a super autist and play minesweeper for 700 hours. It does NOT mean it should be priced accordingly, because it does not have content warranting a high price tag.
That would make sense - if you were making this choice in a vacuum.
TF2 has better gameplay, more complexity, customization, and overall content, all for free.
And that's just the most immediate comparison, other games(IE DOTA 2) come with much much more content than Overwatch and they're free as well.
And don't understand how being entitled is a bad thing. People want as much as they can get for as little as they can pay. Blizzard wants more money for the least amount of work. They do have high standards, but they still want more money for less effort.
If you want to touch entitlement you need to determine who deserves what, which nobody actually wants to touch with a 10 foot poll because nobody will agree on anything.
>>339964863
Nothing you've said provides an objective basis for video game value judgment. Nothing anyone has said does either. I've always compared video game pricing to movie DVD pricing and think that's a fair comparison, if flawed. Unfortunately products don't exist in a vacuum, and nothing is exactly analogous to video games.
I don't go to a cinema because it's stupidly expensive.
So how does any of this apply to me?
>>339965283
That's because there is no objective method for valuing a videogame, unlike what this guy is saying. I'm simply making a counterargument to the OP article. As anons have pointed out above me, pricing should not depend on hours of enjoyment, because its just silly. The amount of time you enjoy something is specific to you and your tastes, and should not be used to determine price.
A 2 hour movie can be a life changing experience
Nobodies life will change(for the better) by playing overwatch.
>hero count is pretty good
>map count is pretty good
>game types are a bit meh
>cosmetics are really meh
>single play is non existent
>ranked play is non existent
>Micro-Transactions
>$40 upfront price
They'er lucky this game is fun and addictive or people would be raking them over the coals for the lack of content there is in this, plus the inclusion of micro-transactions.
>>339962165
You have to pay? They force you?
>>339965283
I'd argue the most objective basis for pricing for a game is the amount of content in the game, because this equates to the amount of effort that was needed to produce the game. A basketball is priced based on the cost of the materials and labor needed to produce it, not based on the enjoyment you might get out of it.
>Jollyjack
>>339959707
The only people complaining are poorfags, Brazilians, children, and people who want every game to be free because they're entitled
No, i work in car sales and the saying is "a sale is made when value exceeds price" and its up to the seller to build value. Now yeah you get idiot customers but that doesnt change the fact that its up to you to build the value if you want that sale. Also hes an idiot because not everyone values the same things. Not everyone goes to the movies and those who do are getting more from the experience than just a flat rate of time versus value.
>>339959838
Post ecchi you unreliable faggot.
>Pay full price for a video game
>Have to pay even more money once I start playing the game to have all the unlockables
Why do people think this is okay?
Unless the game is free to play or hasexpansion packsyou should be able to get everything in the game just by playing it.
>>339965207
TF2 didn't come out for free you fucking dumb nigger.
>>339959707
Bitching about other people bitching about the cost of games is really, really autistic.
>>339959707
I think the real question here is where the fuck did he get Overwatch for £30.
Cheapest I've found is £36.
>>339959838
Are you going out of your way to be stupid in every thread
>>339966161
And?
I base it on 1 dollar/1 euro per hour
>>339959707
Well I don't pay for movies, what now?
>>339966325
I do that too! Thought I was the only one. I tend to let it slide though if I can tell the game was high-effort and was an enjoyable ride. even if it was short.
>>339965207
>TF2 has better gameplay, more complexity, customization, and overall content, all for free.
It wasn't free when I bought it.
>>339961630
>>339962165
>>339960584
But those microtransactions allow them to create new characters and new maps and new modes and give them to the community for free.
So if you don't buy any boxes, you get all important content that actually matters for free.
>>339965575
Blizzard new exactly what they were doing when they made their game like this. Whether someone bought the game for $40 or $60, Blizzard is hoping to bank off micro transactions the the same way valve has with TF2.
Sure they're going to release future content for free, but at some point, they're going to try and take advantage of all the idiots that have no self control or don't understand the value of their own money to buy useless cosmetic shit to show off to to other players. That's all this is in the end. Sure the game is fun, but that is subjective, just like the value someone may perceive the game may be worth.
>>339962972
The thing to compare with is like-for-like.
You compare a basketball's price to other basketballs that can substitute for it. "What is the most efficient basketball experience for me?"
This is an interesting meme now that you mention it. Who do you think started spreading this? It's really old.
>>339966245
On the official website I think
>>339959707
Measuring entertainment in movie tickets is the problem here.
It should be measured in Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup.
>Comparing a piece of software with a $5000 projector, a 50ft screen, $10,000 dolby surround sound equipment, a seat, and a massive environment-controlled room
>no profit
>no product
What about all of those freeware games?
>>339959707
>I think this price point is too high and I will no purchase it because of it
>JUST BUY IT YOU ENTITLED CONSUMERS REEEEEEE
Some pretty gud irony right here.
>>339959707
Why do people think developers are entitled to sales? Do they not understand basic economics?
>>339967450
this guy knows what he's talking about
For real though this topic is so shit. Let's choose a fucking ancient topic and apply it to a new release and watch those hits roll in hurrrrrrr
played the beta for 4 hours, I earned my experience for free
>the value of entertainment measured by how much time you waste on it
I wish this meme would die already.
