DENUVO CRACKED BY MKDEV
>>339925971
We've been over this; The game won't play, they can start it, nothing else.
It's like hotwiring a car that disconnects the wheels when no key is present.
>>339925971
please stop making these threads. thank you.
>>339926068
>>339926181
Denuvo shills BTFO
>>339925971
ITS OVER
JEWS BTFO
FEMINISTS BTFO
SJWS BTFO
>>339925971
We did it reddit!
>>339925971
>Full of "cinematic" shit, that only disturbs the flow of the gameplay.
>guns suck, unless you upgrade
>barely can hold any ammo, unless you level-up
>Checkpoints.
>maps are linear pipes connecting obligatory combat arenas you get locked into.
>platforming sections.
>you get around half-a dozen enemies on screen at once, at best.
>every enemy is a literal loot Pinata, totally eliminating the point of exploring for supplies.
>rune challenges are just annoying filler.
>everything glows.
>some fucking robo guy literally handholds you through the game, via radio.
>the only good difficulties are locked until you beat the game
>no mods, and the Snapmap is literally just all about connecting handful of pre-made rooms together, with strict enemy limit.
>only 4 players max in Snapmaps.
>MP is Gaylo-tier shit.
>Spider is the last boss, and is not hitscan anymore either.
>bosses have HP bars
>ending was literally a slap to face + "lol, look forward to teh sequel, goy!"
>>339925971
>Going through all that time and effort to pirate a game
Just fucking buy it
>>339925971
Can you please stop making these threads? Doom was a great game and it would be a shame to see them go bankrupt due to piracy.>NEVER EVER
>>339927738
>That sassy image
You just earned yourself another thread bucko!!
EVEEYONES BTFO!! LIKE WE ALL BTFO !!! WINNAN!
>>339925971
slavs cracked denuvo like month ago lemayo
>Denuvo shills literally BTFO
Max kek
>>339927737
>he thinks cracking groups interested in playing video games
fuck doom, i want my tombfu.
Denuvo is unbreakable, that is just malware being pushed by mkdev
>first /v/ calls doom shit
>/v/ calls doom halo clone and not worth playing
>suddenly doom announces that it has denuvo
>SUDDENLY /v/ says Doom is best game ever never ever pirates will play it etc.
What happened ?
>>339927601
>finish Doom 1
>"lol, look forward to the sequel, goy!"
>>339929189
To be fair, all criticism was based on multiplayer. Singleplayer information was little to nonexistent so most just assumed it'll play similarly.
It's not cracked when the game is not playable
>>339929093
THICC
>>339927601
t. someone who hasn't played the game
>>339925971
Now if only it had games
BUYFAGS
B
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piratepoors in tears
I don't care if it ever get's fully cracked, it could happen tomorrow for all I care. Companies extensively study if DRM is worth it because they need to be as profitable as possible, they only make the investment in DRM if it causes enough pirates to get impatient and buy the game before it gets cracked that the revenue from those would be pirates is greater than the cost of implementing DRM.
I'm just mad because pirates make DRM a profitable investment for publishers. We wouldn't have to deal with it if they weren't so entitled.
Just buy the fucking game.
so why hasn't he released it, anon :^)
>>339931180
i jut dont buy games if the devs take the game in a direction i dont like
i dont even waste my time playing a pirated copy because thatd just be stupid
>>339929228
>>339930747
Not him but I completed the game and that's how I feel. At least orginal Doom had secrets that were not obvious, and had a large amount of enemies.
Those were two huge parts of Doom they fucked up.
>>339931206
But Anon,I got fired ;_;
>>339931206
This. Piratefags act so high and mighty but in the end you're all just fucking poor
>almost all PC gamers have large backlogs of games
>if you are patient and buy games a while after release/during sales, which is not hard to do while playing through your backlog, you can get games for virtually free
>on top of that, if you don't go overboard during sales, you can spend about as much on games every year as it would cost for a good VPN that you need to pirate without getting your internet shut off
>buying games legally gets you benefits such as cloud saves and being able to play the multiplayer
What's even the point of pirating? I've spent so little on my Steam library I've never considered pirating because I get all the benefits of Steam this way.
>>339931747
How long will it be for a game like Doom 4 to be "virtually free"?
It isn't cracked. The game doesn't load past 17%.
It's progress but it's ultimately a nuked build.
>>339927601
>bosses have HP bars
How is that a bad thing?
That's something I'd kill for to see in MH.
>>339931807
That depends on a lot of factors.
>>339931861
>spam threads 24/7
>waah why am i muted
based mods
they should do the same to all the retarded witcher vs bloodborne threads. ip-range ban all those retards.
>>339931958
>ip-range ban all those retards
Most people make bait threads with their phones because it's super easy to get new IPs that way. It's fucking annoying trying to post while I'm on the go and I have to put my phone in airplane mode and then take it out of it so that I get an IP that isn't banned.
>>339927601
Is this like reverse sour grapes? You're mad because people can pirate the game you paid for?
>>339925971
Just buy it you fucks
It's the best fps within the last few years
>>339931206
>80 canadian pesos
>>339927601
>"I d-didn't want to play it anyway"
![418vd25XLML._SX425_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DLOpUJL.jpg "418vd25XLML._SX425_[1].jpg")
>>339932208
>It's the best fps within the last few years
>>339931582
I'm not poor, I just don't spend money on free shit like a retard
>>339931206
>paying for games
>>339925971
A friend steam shared it with me so I've been playing it without paying anyway.
It's alright. I never play it when they're online cuz I kinda like it in short bursts.
>>339931861
>spam whinebaby threads
>get blocked for breaking rules
>be a whinebaby about it
Oh hi, are you guys saying that DRM that was never gonna get cracked... ended up getting cracked?
Literally the circle of life, guys. Please stop forgetting this shit every time
>>339927738
>Doom was a great game
Yeah, back in 1993.
>>339932648
Oh hi, read the thread.
>>339932907
I did. My post was just a snarky reminder that nothing, as history has always proven, is uncrackable.
>>339925971
It loads to 17% and then stops loading. Doesn't let you go any further than the title screen.
Meanwhile, everyone else already owns, has played, and has finished Doom. Fags.
>people quickly jump on shitposting without reading the thread
>>339933128
what's your point?
console masterrace, bought it for $40, sold it for $40
>>339933128
I'm american, I don't have to read fucking shit.
>>339933185
>playing shooters on consoles
>>339931861
You know that /v/ started as a pirate board for PC players right?
>>339933293
Except it didn't, you've been here for 2 months and shut up, faggot.
>>339929042
me too
>>339932648
What I don't get about this is, aren't we already capable of encryption that is uncrackable? As in, there's no obfuscation, the implementation is open-source, it's just that bruteforcing it open would take a farm of supercomputers 100,000 years because of how it works mathematically?
One would think the same thing could ultimately be true of DRM. I'm not saying that's how Denuvo works or that I support it, but damn this ought not to be that hard.
>I pirate games
>>339933493
Encryption does take some processing power to decrypt, and the last thing you want in AAA games is a performance hit when you're struggling to reach 30FPS on your average system.
>>339933430
don't you mean... "me tomb"?
>>339931861
can we just ban all the denuvo thread makers? its getting boring as fuck
Denuvo is so based, I'm glad piratefags are getting BTFO
i still don't want to play any of the denuvo protected games
>>339933693
>its getting boring as fuck
We're not here to entertain you, pussytits.
>>339933638
One would think that you could front-load it so that all the decrypting was done at loading screens.
Or that you could just use the authentication process to boot the game up, so the only processor cost was on startup.
I'M IN BOYS
Thanks mkdev thanks /v/
>>339933961
If it were that easy it would have already been done
>>339926526
>WE CRACKED THE CODE ITS OVER
>uhh it doesnt work
>LALALALALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALALALALALALALALALALA
>>339933272
doesn't make a difference if I'm playing campaign, I have a 970 but why waste $60. With all the games that came out this Spring, I can get a 1070 because I sold all of them back
>>339925971
>>339926068
Or like stealing a burger, but you only get the bun
>game comes out, people buy game and enjoy it
>meanwhile, the poor piratefag goes on /v/ "h-haha e-enjoy paying for v-vidya fag, d-denuvo will be cracked s-soon and I'll p-play for free"
>almost a month later, the piratefag still can't play
Pirates are cucks desu
>>339933961
Then you get long-ass loading screens and use twice as much (or more) disk space. Which is a ridiculous proposition considering the space games already take and how expensive SSDs are right now. Maybe later on.
>>339934096
Up until a certain point, like most DRM. after that it's all smooth sailing.
>>339934063
>doesn't make a difference if I'm playing campaign
>he plays shooters with a controller
>>339931807
It'll be $20 next year and under $5 in four years
>>339931861
>WOW, WHY DO MODS DELETE SHITPOSTING
lmfao get btfo
>>339934085
Well, the fact that they did manage to boot it up I guess means progress
>>339933910
No, you are here to shitpost, mad moralcucks.
Of course based mods fuck you hard in the ass.
>>339934061
It's actually a crack. Denuvo is supposed to stop the game from starting up, and it's failing at that.
OK, the crack later on causes the game to crash, but that's not thanks to Denuvo, that's a pretty normal occurrence when you're fucking around with a program's memory.
The crack is working. Denuvo has been broken.
>>339925971
>Cracked
>Can't actually play it
At least post that they're making progress, not that it's "finished."
>>339934245
That's the point of Denuvo: to secure the initial sales. Straight out of the Denuvo's director of sales mouth.
>>339934096
>game with Denuvo comes out
>all that madness, all the anal pain in moralcucks after 20 years of rampant piracy comes up and they unleash it
Delicious.
Going to go back to playing my free copy of TW3.
Hey, it's not pirated, it didn't even need crack.
>>339926068
>>339934085
But it is progress. One day, the hackers will completely circumvent Denuvo. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but they will eventually do it.
>>339934607
Funny because not a single Denuvo game has had any worthwhiles sales.
Every single Denuvo game has either performed as expected or underperformed.
Except Total War, I think.
Far Cry Primal for example was a failure.
>>339925971
I'll wait until
>works on my machine
denuvo has security checks for different CPU revisions, maybe OPs CPU is the only one that can run it
>>339934456
>inb4 an online anti piracy service updates their servers with a new encryption
im waiting for that thread tbqh
>>339934706
Most of the Denuvo games are shit games. Metal Gear did sell well though
>>339934675
This.
Denuvo is piracy's 50th death this decade.
>>339934618
Haha, well said my friend
Starforce or Securom anyone? Starforce was made by Russians and went uncracked for 400+ days on Splinter Cell. Don't hold your breath on denuvo.
>>339934675
and then something stronger and more inconvenient will come around the corner making it harder on people who don't steal
>>339934767
Exactly, what makes PC games sell well is the quality of the port and of the game itself.
Denuvo is proof that piracy is irrelevant towards the sales of a game.
Would love to see what Ubisoft comes up with when their games still sell like garbage on PC.
>>339934456
>It's actually a crack. Denuvo is supposed to stop the game from starting up, and it's failing at that.
Only partially true. It's not crack unless it's "mostly" playable. Denuvo has a lot of triggers that check whether the games has been tampered with. I guess the fact that they did overcome some of challenges means progress, but we don't know how many triggers Denuvo actually has. Maybe it will fuck up every level. Every 2 minutes. Every time you shoot a shotgun or whatever. Who the hell knows. Metal Gear prologue chapter is still fucked as far as I know for the same reason
>>339934675
Like they already did with MGSV
>>339934767
MGS V is one of the few cracked Denuvo games and is one of the best sellers with it, probably it has something to do and Denuvo can be cracked if the authors find interest in the game, so that's why so few Denuvo games have been cracked, there has been few worth cracking games.
>>339934846
Yes anon, every single person on this planet has pirated a movie or a song, but the one whining about piracy is the non-autist.
>>339934910
And that too will get circumvented eventually as well.
>>339927601
>Full of "cinematic" shit, that only disturbs the flow of the gameplay.
There's only like 3-4 cutscenes that total in at about 7-8 minutes in the entire game that do this. My first playthrough I did tons of exploration for secrets and clocked in at about 12 hours.
>guns suck, unless you upgrade
Nope. Get good.
>barely can hold any ammo, unless you level-up
Nope. Get good. In my 2nd and subsequent playthroughs, I refused to level up ammo, health, and armor just because actually upgrading can make things too easy.
>Checkpoints.
Nothing wrong there.
>maps are linear pipes connecting obligatory combat arenas you get locked into.
Nothing wrong there. This isn't Castlevania. As long as I get plenty of arenas where I can creatively improvise my way to victory, I'm good.
>platforming sections.
Nothing wrong there.
>you get around half-a dozen enemies on screen at once, at best.
Wrong.
>every enemy is a literal loot Pinata, totally eliminating the point of exploring for supplies.
Nothing wrong there.
>rune challenges are just annoying filler.
Get good.
>everything glows.
Nothing wrong there.
>some fucking robo guy literally handholds you through the game, via radio.
Wrong. He's plot. You still have to beat the game on your own.
>the only good difficulties are locked until you beat the game
Nightmare is available at the start.
>no mods, and the Snapmap is literally just all about connecting handful of pre-made rooms together, with strict enemy limit.
Don't care about Snapmap.
>only 4 players max in Snapmaps.
Don't care about Snapmap.
>MP is Gaylo-tier shit.
Don't care about MP.
>Spider is the last boss, and is not hitscan anymore either.
Why is this bad?
>bosses have HP bars
Why is this bad?
>ending was literally a slap to face + "lol, look forward to teh sequel, goy!"
Nothing wrong there.
>>339934926
Metal Gear was uncracked for the week IIRC. I would really want to look at the SteamSpy data, but it seems it doesn't provide only the data for the last 3 months, which is annoying as fuck
>>339931206
>80$ for shit multiplayer and short singleplayer
Nein.
>>339934929
MGSV works perfectly fine
>>339935069
>This isn't Castlevania
This isn't Doom, either.
>>339925971
Its work in progress but we are getting there thanks to mkdev.
>>339935187
>This isn't Doom, either.
You're right. It's DOOM. It's an improvement over Doom.
Ehh, maybe i'll care when Deus Ex comes out, but seeing how Rise of the Tomb Raider, HITMAN and pretty much all Square games have been mediocre to shitty ports, i'm not too expectant.
>mfw the cracker sells out and reveals the loophole to Denuvo
>>339935153
Maybe it is now, I'm not sure. The first release of the crack had a fucked up prologue chapter. Also the game hasn't been updated since 1.0.5, but I guess it's the chinks fault for not updating their crack
>>339931206
No.
>>339931582
Not poor, I've got a Wii U, PS4, and a 3DS where I buy my games. I own my house, my own property. I still choose to not buy my PC games, nor will I ever.
>>339934085
>american analogies
>>339931582
Why?
Free is better.
>>339934085
More like stealing a buger that tastes like cardboard and has no nutritious value.
>>339931180
You're retarded if you think DRM's main purpose is to stop piracy, and not to control the software you 'buy'.
>>339935275
>implying Denuvo jews haven't offered him money yet
>>339934607
Literally none of denuvo's games has broke 1 million in sales.
>>339934456
Thanks for the explanation, dodger.
>>339931206
>$80 for a singleplayer game I might not even enjoy
Where's the demo, seriously.
>>339931180
>entitled
Every single person who uses this word unironically is either a shill or a Tumblrina.
>>339935503
seriously?
>>339935069
>Nuh uh, the post.
>>339935069
>Nothing wrong here. This isn't Castlevania. As long as I get plenty of arenas where I can creatively improvise my way to victory, I'm good.
There's a game that was made to be "get locked in a room and kill all the bad guys which lets you go to the next room and do the same thing" and it's called Painkiller. It also does everything neo DOOM does better. You're immediately fast, every weapon is powerful instantaneously and you have to scavenge for ammo all the time.
In neo DOOM you jump around and climb walls looking for those few enemies that are evading you because of shit AI, of which by the way are never a threat because you used the chainsaw to instantly kill the Baron of Hell already.
What a fantastic game.
>>339931582
Except piracy can be fucking lucrative.
>>339935640
Yup.
The highest selling Denuvo game is MGSV, and it's been at 900k's for about 3 months.
Other games have been flops too.
Far Cry Primal sold about 1/5th of what Far Cry 4 did.
>>339935572
What other word are we supposed to describe people who think they have a right to take things for free?
Also sympathizing with shoplifters is huge on tumblr, they're just poor people getting back at "the man". I'm sure their attitude towards piracy is the same.
>>339931582
>DENUVO IS GOING TO SAVE PC GAMING
>YOU ARE ALL POOR
>DENUVO IS GOING TO SAVE PC GAMING BY MAKING THOSE WHO CAN'T AFFORD VIDEOGAMES BUY VIDEOGAMES
>>339931206
Where is the fun in that?
>>339935478
How does that work? Hasn't that happened more often with pirated versions of games where people try to include malware with the torrent they put up?
>>339935640
according to steamspy that is. MGS is leading at 968k, and that one was cracked and after a 50% sale.
>>339934675
Nah, they are waiting for someone to crack it so they can slap them down with their newest build. It's a good day to be a visual supporter.
>>339935768
Only autistic neckbeards get triggered by piracy.
Proof of that is that ''people'' like you can only be found in /v/eddit.
>>339935816
>no one who wouldn't buy a game through piracy are buying the game because they can't now
>>339935503
Hardly any AAA PC game does anyway, at least at the initial price and not years after countless sales and cheap bundles
>>339935745
Is that 900k PC only or does it include consoles?
>>339935913
But according to Denuvocucks all pirates are poorfags.
How can they buy games if they are poor?
How is Denuvo going to save videogames like that?
>>339935572
I´d say they all use it wrong, being entitled is usually something good, like being entitled to a fair trial, free speech, etc.
The problem is that instead of saying that people are "claiming to be entitled", they just say "entitled", which makes you loathe a perfectly fine description of something you either are or are not.
>>339925971
Has Denuvo been affecting sale at all? Like I see a lot of games using it, and it doesnt seem sales in general are going up or down.
>>339935953
Overall it sold almost 7 million.
>>339936017
Nope.
In fact no Denuvo game has surpassed 1 million sales.
>Denuvofags spams their circlejerk threads as usual
>pirates makes a thread
>LOLOL STOP SPAMMING GAWD YOU POORFAGS
Glad the oncoming crack will make you all irrelevant
>>339935889
>refuses to acknowledge my humanity because of differing opinions
>accuses others of being autistic
Normal people don't take things like this so seriously. Do you feel like I'm attacking your identity because I buy my games on sale and spend about as much as you do on a VPN to pirate?
>>339936125
No, I don't feel like a normal person complains about piracy.
>VPN
Why would I get a VPN to pirate?
>>339936037
Figured.
900k on PC is pretty impressive though.
>>339925971
Good for them.
I still won't play the game since i have a ton of other games already on my backlist.
Games that are better and more worthy of my time.
>>339935889
I don't think anybody gets triggered by privacy. I think it just feels good to hear all the misery. It's like they are sucking on my huge cock and having a hard time keeping it in when I stick it in deeper.
>>339935964
>How is Denuvo going to save videogames like that?
You might be on to something...
>>339935964
Then people who were unable to buy it are still unable to buy it.
Clearly they aren't thinking.
>>339936017
The closest comparison i can give for AAA titles is XCOM2 vs Tomb Raider rises. almost the same amount of sales from big beloved franchises.i'd kinda argue that XCOM is more niche but idk maybe not.
>>339936245
>I think it just feels good to hear all the misery.
Average Denuvocuck.
>>339934675
It is fucking retarded that these guys are showing off a half cracked version of Denuvo. All that is going to prompt the Denuvo team to do is update their software. Good job retards.
>>339936303
Has XCOM2 been fixed yet?
>>339936114
it's literally just pirate flags
good people don't care that others are theifs to the point of making threads about it
![Spyro_3_hidden_message_for_pirates[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/R9lat88.png "Spyro_3_hidden_message_for_pirates[1].png")
>>339934929
Oh fuck it's Spyro 3 all over again
>>339936017
Denuvo lowers sales.
>>339936017
Warhammer is the fastest selling TW game in the history of TW. And it comes with Denuvo.
>>339936171
eurocucks.
>>339936378
still performing like shit. it's way easier than the first one and the expansions haven't rolled out yet so if you're planning to buy, dont. still very fun albeit very "streamlined".
>>339936171
>No, I don't feel like a normal person complains about piracy.
But they do complain about DRM. My complaint was that pirates make DRM an profitable endeavor for publishers. This is not an unreasonable complaint.
>Why would I get a VPN to pirate?
So that your ISP doesn't threaten to cut off your service (happened to me after pirating ONCE) and so that the MPAA/RIAA doesn't try to make an example out of you by suing you for hundreds of thousands of dollars, which even if you win the court case, will cost you a shit ton in legal fees.
>>339936538
>My complaint was that pirates make DRM an profitable endeavor for publishers
How?
>So that your ISP doesn't threaten to cut off your service (happened to me after pirating ONCE) and so that the MPAA/RIAA doesn't try to make an example out of you by suing you for hundreds of thousands of dollars, which even if you win the court case, will cost you a shit ton in legal fees.
Feels good that I don't live in a dictatorship.
>>339936495
>it's way easier than the first one
Really? Cause for the first 2 weeks post release, all the xcom2 threads were people bitching about the time limit.
>>339934675
sorry but the cracking scene will never keep up with professional DRM creators with modern computers
buy your games you idiots, then get your money back if they're shit
>>339936538
>So that your ISP doesn't threaten to cut off your service (happened to me after pirating ONCE) and so that the MPAA/RIAA doesn't try to make an example out of you by suing you for hundreds of thousands of dollars, which even if you win the court case, will cost you a shit ton in legal fees.
>land of the free
Doom has Denuvo? FUCK.
I really wanted to purchase that game. Fuck it. Fucking why? Dumb malicious software. I'll never ever pay for anything with Denuvo.
>>339936471
That's a bold statement with no proof you're making, anon.
>>339936656
>starforce is unbeatable guyz
>>339934675
if there is a legitimate way to access something, then there is an illegitimate counterpart.
The only way to make a secure system is to have one that no-one can ever access no matter what.
At that point you may as well have nothing anyway
>>339931206
>paying for malicious software
I am thinking no.
>>339936723
Please explain how Denuvo will detract from your experience in anyway. The game is very well optimized and gets great performance.
There is literally nothing wrong with Denuvo.
>>339936656
No thanks.
I'll keep playing TW3.
>>339936723
>malicious software
>Just prevents cracking
Don't get me wrong, I want to see denuvo cracked, but stop spreading bullshit.
>>339936309
Ha! I think you're the one getting cucked and you know it. :)
>the amount of butt devastation from the piratefags ITT
inb4
>i d-don't w-want doom
>>339936724
No one likes copy protection. If someone doesn't like something, what do you think the result will be? More sales is incoprehensible.
>>339935237
>Improvement
That's Big Brother / Napoleon / Stalin speak.
>>339936867
>>339936886
It prevents modding.
I don't like supporting anti-consumer practices.
>>339936606
>How?
It takes a while to crack a game. A lot of people get impatient and buy the game before it gets cracked. Companies do not normally make decisions without doing feasibility studies to make sure it will be profitable or at least not lose too much money if it doesn't work. DRM only exists because enough pirates get impatient and buy the game before it gets cracked, and the revenue from that is greater than the cost of implementing DRM.
>Feels good that I don't live in a dictatorship.
I live in the freest country in the world :^). Having competent law enforcement to enforce laws that were put in place democratically does not make me less free.
>>339936867
>>339936886
Not him, but i don't want my HD to get fried by the denuvo malware
>>339936478
warhammer TW have been hyped for a decade anon. they would've gotten crazy sales either way. it's the equivalent of fallout 4 having denuvo.
>>339936623
that's because they're used to being very careful and overwatch spamming. base building is braindead now, the fucking AI moves into range for you to shoot them as opposed to running away from you. and after your ranger(assault) class gain access to phantom(corporal) it's like memethicc skin lite all over again.
>>339936867
>10 years pass
>denuvo no longer supports your new OS or hardware
>can't play the video you bought 10 years ago to experience again
>have to buy an 8K-re-release with shittier texturing
That's how it always goes in the land of DRM.
>>339936763
Tbh with the amount of emphasis on cyberwarfare and security these days, anyone good enough to crack something like Denuvo will immediately be headhunted by companies and govts. Which is probably why there is a huge hole in the talent pool at the moment.
>>339936949
> A lot of people get impatient and buy the game before it gets cracked
Not a single Denuvo game has had any above average sales though.
In fact some of them underperformed.
>I live in the freest country in the world :^). Having competent law enforcement to enforce laws that were put in place democratically does not make me less free.
Are you showing off that you need a VPN to pirate?
>>339936886
>install game with denuvo
>uninstall game with denuvo
>still have denuvo files left on the computer
No denuvo is trash. That shit is suspicious as fuck. And it's like you aren't even questioning how it prevents tampering. The thing is bad.
>>339936659
>>land of the free
So law enforcement is bad?
>>339936659
>what are costs
if you win the case, you get your legal fees paid by the other party.
>>339936981
That is what I fucking said on week 1 of Xcom 2. Xcom 2 is only really punishing if you keep losing soldiers because a lot of the game tools in dealing with bullshit situations are locked behind levels. Fucking /v/ being casuals again.
>>339936936
Warhammer comes with mod support though.
>>339936896
Piratefag reporting in
MGSV finally bypassed but not removed like 2 days ago, but you can play the game from start to finish fully without any issues
Doom will come soon
>>339931905
Fuck off, inbred casual trash.
Hope you get cancer and fucking die, you retarded worthless piece of shit.
>>339937045
>Not a single Denuvo game has had any above average sales though.
>In fact some of them underperformed.
Not an argument. Tons and tons and tons of games without Denuvo also sell horribly.
>Are you showing off that you need a VPN to pirate?
Again, how is law enforcement bad? I don't want to live in Somalia.
>>339937132
>Not an argument. Tons and tons and tons of games without Denuvo also sell horribly.
Exactly, Denuvo is irrelevant towards the sales of games, and thus, piracy is irrelevant to sales.
>Again, how is law enforcement bad? I don't want to live in Somalia.
Why does the USA enforce such laws?
>>339937116
But it's not very likely you'll win in the first place because piracy is illegal. There's also the opportunity cost in that you'll be missing work and stuff that could be making you money.
Pirates win again
>>339937063
>enforcement of unscrupulous copyright laws
typical amerifat gobbling corporate cock, dont you have a donald trump rally to attend?
Piracy is a part of PC Gamer Culture.
PC Gamers plays PC Games.
Doom is a PC Game, therefore
PC Gamers must pirate Doom.
Reminder.
>>339925971
who gives a fuck, there isn't a single good game with denuvo so far
>>339929189
>What happened ?
What really happened is:
>people looked at trailers and reviews and figured it must be shit
>buyfags need to rationalise and say it's great even if it isn't
>piratefags still want to see how bad the game really is but certainly won't pay for it
>>339937293
This.
Even 20 bucks is asking much for a 13 hour singleplayer game with no replayability, though
>>339937293
That's why I only buy CD Keys.
>>339937214
>Exactly, Denuvo is irrelevant towards the sales of games
No, that's not how this works. It simply means that if a game fails, it's not because of Denuvo. 99% of PC gamers are not hardcore /g/entoomen (just look at the steam hardware survey to see how casual most PC gamers really are) who boycott games with DRM, the number of sales from impatient pirates clearly outnumbers the boycotters. Some of these games also sold better on consoles, which have much more invasive DRM built into the system as it is.
>Why does the USA enforce such laws?
Because we are a capitalist society that believes in property rights as they create an avenue for content creator to monetize their works, and the profit motive has produced the most prosperous and peaceful societies in the history of mankind. Most people view pirates like people who study for tests view cheaters.
>>339937239
Name a single successful society that doesn't use corporations as the main method of production. I'm waiting.
>>339937464
Hope you don't pay much for em.
I remember when Bioshock came out with a 5 activation limit thing that wasnt working the day it came out.
So only legitimate customers got fucked.
>>339935816
You are fucking stupid.
If people can't afford a game, no matter how much you prevent them from pirating it, they still won't be able to buy it.
>>339937670
>>339937132
>>339936949
>argument from legality
Ah.
Truly the pinnacle of moral argument.
>>339937730
That's what i'm saying.
Denuvofags claim it's saving PC gaming, but it's not increasing sales because there's two kind of pirates: the ones who don't have money and only buy when they are cheaper, and the ones who don't have money and/or just pirate everything regardless if they can afford it.
No matter which one it is, you are not going to get a purchase from them, at least near release.
That's why Denuvo games have had really average sales, with no standouts.
>>339937919
I honestly don't justify it, personally.
I don't need to.
>>339937670
>the number of sales from impatient pirates clearly outnumbers the boycotters
No, what's happening is that there's no boycott or anything.
Denuvo games sell really average because people either don't give a fuck about it, or just wouldn't buy the game anyway because they either don't want to, or they can't.
>Most people view pirates like people who study for tests view cheaters.
Most people don't give a fuck about pirates because everyone has pirated a song or a movie.
Do I need to remind you how piracy killed the PSP and flashcarts killed the NDS in the west?
People don't give a fuck about morality issues, they just don't care.
If they can get free shit, they'll try to get free shit.
>>339936867
>There is literally nothing wrong with Denuvo.
It's a strain on the computer. And it messes with things it shouldn't mess with.
It's literally malicious software that publishers and people just accept in fear of the pirate boogeyman.
You can go on and on about "Pirates BTFO!", but it's really the paying consumers that suffers the most from this. They have to pay regular price for these products, and still have to suffer through Denuvo.
And in a decade from now, these games will also be a complete and total mess to archive because of the above as well. But games shouldn't last should they? Cause that be bad for the publishers! Better re-buy the re-release instead ;^)
>>339938157
>Denuvo games sell really average because people either don't give a fuck about it, or just wouldn't buy the game anyway because they either don't want to, or they can't.
Your whole argument sways around your opinion that copy protection/DRM has no impact on what a buyer gets or not. Which is wrong to start with.
>>339938157
>flashcarts killed the NDS in the west?
NDS sold like gangbusters fampai.
>>339938243
Look at the sales.
Denuvo hasn't had any impact aside from spawning a shitposting general on /v/
>>339938263
Both the NDS and the PSP sold a fuckload of consoles but no games.
>>339935237
It's not an improvement just because you're feeling that buyer's remorse.
>>339929042
>not marrying her already
It's like $15 on sale or straight up on the windows store. I gave it 60 shekels and still don't regret it because hunting for loot and the procedually generated modes are totally worth it.I'm like at the third chapter in the single player at 108 hours played
>>339938298
Can you prove sales don't die down because of copy protection? There are plenty of people who voice their opinion of not buying a game because it contains DRM.
>>339938374
>NDS
>no games
Son.
>>339937880
It's the other way around. Laws are based on society's morals. I disagree with piracy because I believe it's a shitty form of protesting publishers who do shitty things like invasive DRM. All they see is someone who would never become a paying customer if they did cater to their demands anyways. If people refused to pirate and play the game at all until the publisher sold a DRM free version, it would happen.
>>339938157
>Denuvo games sell really average because people either don't give a fuck about it, or just wouldn't buy the game anyway because they either don't want to, or they can't.
Which is exactly what I'm saying.
>Most people don't give a fuck about pirates because everyone has pirated a song or a movie.
Which is why most democracies have laws protecting copyrights...
>Do I need to remind you how piracy killed the PSP and flashcarts killed the NDS in the west?
Just because those consoles were successful, doesn't mean that they wouldn't have sold more if piracy wasn't so rampant.
>>339938429
>There are plenty of people who voice their opinion of not buying a game because it contains DRM.
Just like there's a fuckload of people shitting on CoD every year and every year it sells like mad.
>>339937241
Flawed. You're assuming PC gamers aren't PC gamers if they don't follow PC gamer culture. They clearly can be.
"Must pirate Doom" also states it's the only way to play the PC game Doom. It can also be bought.
>>339938443
>Just because those consoles were successful, doesn't mean that they wouldn't have sold more if piracy wasn't so rampant.
No no, you get me wrong.
The consoles themselves, the hardware, sold a fuckload, but software sales got completely murdered by piracy in western countries.
Why?
Because everyone was pirating since it was easy as fuck.
Why?
Because people like free shit and they never care about morality issues regarding this.
>>339925971
Well duh! And we'll get something better than Denuvo that will be cracked and something better that will be cracked etc etc. Everyone who isn't underage understands that.
>It's the other way around. Laws are based on society's morals.
So clearly all laws are morally just.
Just kidding, that's fallacious.
And we know that you and I aren't silly.
>>339938443
>It's the other way around. Laws are based on society's morals.
They ought to be, that doesn't necessarily mean that they also are
>>339938708
>They ought to be, that doesn't necessarily mean that they also are
Shh.
Let him get there by himself if he can.
>>339938157
>Do I need to remind you how piracy killed the PSP and flashcarts killed the NDS in the west?
No piracy killed the Wii U and the Vita
>>339938772
No, those died because they were shitty consoles with a shitty library.
Smartphones also helped kill Vita.
>>339938708
A society can have bad morals. Should it be legal to kill Jews in Nazi Germany? No. It should be based on morals that aren't culturally relative. You Marxist swine.
>>339938564
>Because people like free shit and they never care about morality issues regarding this.
If piracy was as rampant as you think it is, games just wouldn't be made.
>>339938676
>Just kidding, that's fallacious.
>And we know that you and I aren't silly.
Which is why I added my personal opinion, that piracy is immoral because it is an ineffective form of protest and only leads to this game of cat and mouse between publishers and pirated with worse and worse DRM.
>>339938836
> Should it be legal to kill Jews in Nazi Germany? No
it should be though
>>339938836
>It should be based on morals that aren't culturally relative.
Well that's gonna be difficult because they all are
>>339938885
>If piracy was as rampant as you think it is, games just wouldn't be made.
If it was as easy to pirate games on the PS4 or XONE as it was on the NDS or PSP they would be dead.
People on PC started buying because of convenience.
>>339936936
Denuvo doesn't prevent modding in any way shape or form, neither does it encrypt the game assets. You've to be retarded to spout this kind of dumb shit you don't know shit about.
Denuvo obfuscates itself and important routines in the stack by permanently scrambling them. This doesn't affect the moddability of the game at all, with the exception of maybe the offset of the vtable.
The real issue is that there are only a few people left who actually want to crack anything for the challenge. All the scene groups use the same russian steam emulator to "crack" their games nowadays, with incredibly minor changes to the binary (1-2 opcodes) if any at all. They don't do it for the challenge anymore, they it for the sake of the release.
Unfortunately, games that have been using Denuvo so far pretty much lack a demo and thus anybody that was interested in the game was turned off from buying it after testing the pirated version. They end up having their price reduced drastically, such as ROTR, MGSV, etc.
>>339938836
Hitler did nothing wrong
Bring back demos so I can actually figure out if I want to buy the game or not.
Seriously, what the fuck happened to demos?
>>339938807
What are you talking about? I love my Vita.
>>339938965
It prevents tinkering with the launcher, AKA it prevents script extenders and such.
DSfix wouldn't be possible if Dark Souls used Denuvo, F4SE wouldn't be possible if Fallout 4 used Denuvo.
And in fact, the last thing the team making the MP mod for Just Cause 3 was that they needed to ask Avalanche a tool to debug the game in order to start making the mod.
>>339938943
>People on PC started buying because of convenience.
I agree with this 100%. I said earlier that having self control during Steam sales and patience gets me all the games I've ever wanted for about the same cost as a VPN which I would need to pirate.
>>339938943
>If it was as easy to pirate games on the PS4 or XONE as it was on the NDS or PSP they would be dead.
That's bullshit, the PS2 was extremely easy to mod and it was the most successful console of all time.
>>339933128
That guy wasted his talent in that shitty band.
>>339938996
>cant test the game with a demo
>cant test the game by pirating it
>stop caring about it
>end up buying it when its $5 on sale after 3 months
>>339939184
You needed a modchip to be fused onto it, the PS3 also had it and piracy didn't do a thing.
The NDS was just a $20 cart in which you put games in, and you can pirate the PSP in 5 minutes searching in Google.
>>339938996
>Seriously, what the fuck happened to demos?
Piracy happened
>I'll pirate this game and buy it when it's cheaper I s-s-swear!
>game gets so cheap that pirates don't justify the need to pay for it on a sale
>>339939232
>mfw I got Rise of the Tomb Raider for 1 cent due to a Newegg bug
>finish the story in 11 hours
>never touch it again
>still feel scammed
Probably the most forgettable game i've played in years.
>>339939278
>You needed a modchip to be fused onto it
There were some solderless alternatives for the PS2, it was still easy to do or to have it done by someone.
i-it's not fair!!!!!!!
Nice, I've been wanting to try this game
>literally could've gotten a job via amazon auto turk and earned enough via minimum wage to buy the game in the time it took you shitposting here about a crack
ay lmao
>>339939091
Like I've said, it does also scramble the .vtable around which means you can't have wrappers hooking into graphical calls. It still would be possible if you just scan for the array though, all that's changed is the entry offset, that means it uses a different base address eventhough it would display the default one.
In no way does it actually deterr it. Of course generic wrappers don't work, but you still can make one if you actually want it. Prominent example is Guild Wars 1 which has been doing for a decade now, by no means does it deterr actual modding and you're dumb to believe that shit.
>>339939689
who semen demen
>>339934737
>Install game
>Apply crack
>Disconnect internet cable
>Play
Sorry, buddy.
>>339939803
No idea
>>339939091
Let's be honest, virtually no game that isnt a Bethesda game gets script extenders, and most games get no mods at all or so little they arent worth mentioning.
DSfix would be a loss but it would simply be something you would have to deal with. It might have gotten fixed eventually by the devs if enough people bitched about it. Denuvo would have been a godsendfor DS1, as it would have locked Cheat Engine and any other cheats out.
In the end, protecting the game is more important than modding. Not every game needs them, and no one should feel entitled to have them. It's ultimately the developer's decision to protect their hard work at the expense of modding and peolke need to learn to deal with it. It's unfortunate but this is what it's come to, freeloaders have necessitated such extreme actions.
