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What are your thoughts on Wayforward?
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What are your thoughts on Wayforward?
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One of the few western developers who haven't fallen to the feminism meme so they're good in my eyes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU96S1E3Pbg
They have lost their god damn minds.
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>>339898087
Great flash games. Stupid fonts for menus.
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>>339898087
I like their music. And Double Dragon Neon is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRyR27l7vks
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>>339898860
Also this song. Dat funk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQAMHnmGZZ4
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>>339898087
Kinda mediocre company. Of the two games of theirs I've played, shantae risky's revenge and mighty switch force, I didn't find either particularly interesting or fun. I remember the art being kinda nice in them but nothing else stuck out to me. I question if they're only popular here as most people just jerk off to shantae which I admit I do.

I heard the new game they released, something girl without salad, isn't too good.
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So are you going to get a physical copy of Half Genie Hero now thanks to based Xseed /v/?
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>>339899592
ew
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Their passion projects are what make them great
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>>339898087

They made a cute farting genie
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I don't even know about this, so they must be bad
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>>339898087
Bizarrely overrated for how mediocre every game they make is.
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>>339898460
well that looks like shit
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>>339898087
I think that this gif exists and that it's a great thing
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Mediocre developers who'sg ames are carried entirely on good graphics and music
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>>339900157
more like this
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I think its pretty funny that shovel knight was made by ex-wayforward devs and its easily superior to anything wayforward has ever made. I wonder why that is.

Pirate's Curse was definitely their best game so far but it still suffered from too much backtracking and awkward unfun combat. Hoping the next one is a step up in both those regards. Pretty great character designs and music though.
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remember when shantae was white
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>>339900672
yes, those were dark times
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>>339900483
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>>339900783
>not drawing Skye chubby
this man does not know how to meme
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>>339900639
>Pirate's Curse was definitely their best game so far but it still suffered from too much backtracking and awkward unfun combat.
Funny that this has been the case 3 times in a row yet they're still allowed to make a 4th fucking game that looks no different so far.
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I like their games, both for the gameplay and the girls.

>>339900639
I consider SK on par with PC, though I agree it has better combat. Come to think of it, I first played SK and PC around the same time, within a month at most. Good month.
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>>339901059
its really more surprising that it ever got a sequel, Shantae was a super obscure game that sold like shit and randomly they decided to make a sequel nearly a decade later.

You ask why its allowed for them to be this mediocre? Well compare the enormous success of shovel knight to the moderate success of the later shantae games and it seems appropriate to me. The presentation is pretty good, perhaps that's enough.
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>>339898087
I want my first wish to make Shantae my wife

My second wish to make her be able to birth genie children

And my third wish for those children to be able to grant wishes.
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>>339898087
Great guys.

SSS Sequel/Remake never though.
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>>339901423
They made a sequel because they wanted to. It isn't about sales when it comes to Shantae. They were also trying to get RR made quite a bit before it happened, but it wasn't working out or something.
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>>339899325
Play Pirate's Curse. It's very good (a lot better that Risky's Revenge at least)
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>>339900459
sauce
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>Stopped playing Risky's Revenge because a good chunk of the game was go from point A to point B to grab an item and take it back to point B all while going through shallow platforming level design
>Play Pirate's Curse because everyone says it's far better
>It's the same fucking thing, but the level design is even worse

I'll tolerate it for a bit more but talk about over hyping it
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Switch Force is even pretty fun

I would like to see them make a spiritual successor to Mischief Makers
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>>339901184
sauce?
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I like WF games, but not really the threads for them. It's always just someone posting a picture of Shantae. And I mean just the character herself. Or Patty.
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WHERE'S MY RESCUE GIRLLLLL
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Like them for:
>character design (never fapped to any WF girls though)
>amazing music and art
>amusing gags and writing
>not giving a shit about SJW stuff

Bad at everything else (gameplay, challenge level mostly). Shantae:PC was their best game but it's only fun on Risky Mode in my opinion. Otherwise it is just too slow and you don't spend enough time fully decked out in the pirate gear, which is going away for HGH anyway. I probably won't even get HGH unless it's on sale, unless they do something amazing with the transformations it looks like the same old stuff.

I do like their games though, they have a lot of charm. I feel like they're a company that makes games because they genuinely enjoy making games, but because of that they have to stay afloat making tons of shovelware.

They have great talent on their team but they're a missing a piece of the puzzle, if they fill it in I think they could make some god-tier, 10/10 games.
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>>339898087
They're just a bunch of faggots.
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>>339902086
are you serious?

that's the biggest improvement pirate's curse made, other than overall more content I guess

>>339902449
Sorry pal, but you really ought to expect that for WF, especially on /v/ where the same thing happens for any series with sexy girls.
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>>339903184
>Sorry pal, but you really ought to expect that for WF, especially on /v/ where the same thing happens for any series with sexy girls.
At least for other threads at least more than just one girl gets posted unless that thread is specifically centered around that one girl, to break up the monotony a little. I already see that this is just Shantae pics and it's the same ones I've always seen, too.
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>Wayforward is actually making Catgirl without Salad.
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>>339903805
Made, past tense

It looks like shit
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>>339903384
Well that's true. I wonder why at least Rotty isn't posted more often.
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Wayforward is probably the most Japanese western dev around.

I say this as a compliment.
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>>339899132
More games need this level of funk.
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>>339904060
She's an April Fool's gag, it's amazing she has any kind of game at all.
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>>339904176
Did you say funk?

Not vidya, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tna-3J8F8nE
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>>339898087
They make cute games.
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>>339899325
You played the least interesting Shantae game.

That said, if you didn't like MSF I don't know what to say to you.
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>>339898087
They coast by on their character designs but their games aren't particularly good and I don't enjoy the simplistic detail of their cartoony style, particularly when they have poor art direction and it clashes badly with environments.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJUzunUJVc

DAT. BASS.
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>>339903184
>that's the biggest improvement pirate's curse made, other than overall more content I guess
No, he's pretty much right. PC's level design is just as bad as RR's was, the only difference is that they went and split the game world up into a bunch of small islands, which makes exploring even less fun because of how massively disconnected everything feels. And then there's shit like that race section with Rottytops, which while kind of fun on its own, totally fucks up the flow of a metroidvania, especially when you have to backtrack through it later for more items you can't reach the first time.
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I have no idea how Wayforward has been able to keep afloat all these years making retro platformers but I don't care.

I own their rare DS games and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>339898858
Oh my god yes. It looks so fucking amateurish, like something out of Gamemaker.
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>>339904832
Say what you will about their games but their sprite art is some of the only modern stuff that isn't complete ass.
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>>339904350
>That said, if you didn't like MSF I don't know what to say to you.
Some people don't like the puzzle-ish time attacks which is understandable.
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>>339904350
>>339905295
MSF is not a good game in the slightest. The gameplay is repetitive, skill-less arse, and the visuals are garbage, especially by WF standards. The only reason to give a shit about it is the great soundtrack and MUH HIPS faggots.
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Who else pirated Cat Girl Without Salad? It was pretty fun but I wouldn't have paid more than like 3 bucks for it.
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>>339898460
i kinda expected more from WayForward with this. it looks like this will be like risky's revenge, fun but it will feel like something is missing always
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>>339905532
I did, considering that I don't even know how I'm supposed to even buy it.
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>>339898087

honestly one of the few small-time game companies I don't really like. and the thing is, they have everything going for them. let's talk Shantae for instance.

-it's got metroidvania influence
-it's got a well-designed cast of characters
-it's got hot babes
-it has a unique aesthetic
-Shantae using her hair as a weapon is a fucking great idea

but somehow I've never beaten one of the games. they just feel so stale and samey.

don't even get me started on mighty switch force. talk about wasted potential, right? is sixteen fucking short-ass levels really what qualifies for a good game now? I mean, I guess Portal only had 19 test chambers but it makes up for its shortness with really good writing and atmosphere and a billion other things I'm always ready to cream myself over, but MSF didn't have jack shit besides an okay puzzle mechanic that doesn't get explored nearly enough.
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>>339905410
Yeah you're right it's skill-less that's why people speedrun it. Show me your times dude I bet you blow them out of the water.

Also yeah of course the gameplay is repetitive, it's a puzzle-platformer that focuses entirely on gameplay. Most of them are repetitive, and the people who like them are just fine with that.
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>>339905672
WayForward is a low budget dev at the end of the day, they just have more fame than usual because of their sprite art and cute grills.

I wouldn't rank WayForward games among the best of the genre, or even particularly innovative for the genre, but they have enough charm for me to feel okay spending 7-10 bucks on them.
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>>339905672

and bearing in mind that I've only played one Shantae game, MSF all the way through, and the beginning of the Ducktales remake, which I frankly could not stand. it's cool that they got the original voice actors and to their credit they did a great job and it warms my heart to see that they're still getting work, but holy shit that game was just plain not fun at all.

and what's with that pixellated effect on some of the character sprites in that game that doesn't actually encompass the whole sprite? it looks like pure wank. I honestly don't understand WayForward but they make money and I don't so I guess I can't talk.
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>>339898341
>all female characters are important, capable, and powerful
>all male characters are weak buffoons

Tell me again how that's not feminism?
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>>339905830
>charm

that's true. I guess I shouldn't be so demanding.
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>>339906064
because I say it's not.
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>>339906064
Women being strong is only the stated goal of feminism.
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>mfw niggas come into shantae threads and type up essays about why they don't like the games
I swear it's the same handful of people too.
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>>339906312

nah this is my first time. I'm really sorry for having an opinion man
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>>339902638
I just don't get why they're so insistent on this quasi metroidvania type thing with all the backtracking. The system shovel knight had where you have a series of linear levels with a boss at the end, each with its own theme and game mechanics unique to that stage, that are interconnected by towns and bonus stages for you to cool down between levels so the game doesn't feel too monotonous. They really should follow that style for their games in the future I think, really I don't know why after castlevania sotn came out everyone seemed to forget that castlevania 3 was a good system, worthy of refinement too.
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>>339906416
Don't lie, faggot.
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>>339904060
The trailer is pretty fucking bad, the game looks better than it is.

For what it sets out to do, it's alright.

Like all WF games the charm mostly comes from the gag writing and art. The trailer didn't show that it (strangely) has full voice acting, the character portraits are animated and have bantz while fighting.

But, the sprite for your character is really static, and makes the game look really freaking bad at first glance. Like there's a death animation, and a victory animation, but beyond that your skirt just kinda blows around and everything else is static, it looks REALLY bad.

It's probably really low budget considering it was a joke game made for Humble Monthly, but it has full voice acting (and it's not that bad), good art (but not animation) and good music. It's probably really short though, I only played it for ten minutes so I don't know how long it is.
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>>339906312
I welcome actual videogame discussion. And if someone's going to shit on a game I like, I'd rather them be thorough and descriptive than not. Though reading a couple of these negative posts I have to wonder if we played the same game.
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>>339906495

I dunno what to tell you m8
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Isn't Wayforward where Tomm "Unironically the world's biggest Silent Hill fan" Hulett works now?
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>>339906562

this nigga right here. this is what we call an "adult", folks.

>I have to wonder if we played the same game

does Pirate's Curse get better as you go on? I'll admit I only played the first zone thing of it, and some assorted side shenanigans that I think were optional but may have been required.
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WHEN IS THIS COMING OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>339906064
Wut? The only buffoon I can think of is the Mayor of Scuttle Town. Maybe Bolo, but he's canonically a good fighter. The girls all have their share of buffoonery, too. Shantae forgot she didn't own a bathtub for fuck's sake.
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>>339904329
>not vidya but
no but, why did you post it if its not vidya?

back on topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcUycuGwlms

wtf was with this game's ending? The cute alien girl you're playing as blows up the earth.
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>>339906064
bullshit, shantae is literally galbrush
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>>339906312
>how DARE you discuss video games on /v/
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>>339898087
They're the Vanillaware of the west: decent gameplay, if a bit simplistic, but AMAZING 2d graphics and music.
T
he style and presentation are what sells it, particularly the quality of their pixel art and their partnership with Virt.
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>>339907286
nigga, if you come at me posting the same wall of text everytime you see a shantae thread, eventually I'm gonna stop paying attention to you.
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Catgirl Without Salad is one of the best games I've played in a while.
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>>339898087
They're on the same level as Spark Unlimited, Double Helix, or Ninja Theory, but somehow they managed to build up a cadre of braindead waifufag followers

just another mediocre shovelware dev
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>>339907493
but it's not
you have no indication to whether it's the same person or not
maybe the reason you see shantae games getting so much flak is because they're flawed and provoke discussion on a board about discussing video games

I mean, I genuinely think Gone Home was one of the best indie games to come out that year. how do you think I feel? do I bitch and moan every time someone rags on that game? naw nigga naw. I talk to them about it. I show my opinion and they show me theirs.

y'know, like people.
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>>339907452
Is that pirate girl really supposed to be Shawntey´s mom?
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>>339907721
>you have no indication to whether it's the same person or not
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>Shantae loses her genie powers for pirate's curse
>the game actually plays much better with risky's weapons than her magic did in the last two games

Hmmm.
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>>339906874
Thanks.

I was thinking more of the MSF opinions but I also think PC is excellent. If you were the guy(s) talking about level design in PC I agree that it's not exceptional, but I didn't find it annoying or anything, and more to the point I found it a big step up from RR which is frankly as bland and seemingly thoughtless it gets in level design (and I say that even though I like RR).

Anyway, yeah, I think the game gets better in general as it goes on, but I'm not sure it'll matter if you're not already into the game.
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>>339907931
thanks. I might give it a poke again once I'm through my JRPG phase (which should be done in about a fucking year, JRPGs are so goddamn long).
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>>339898087
Shantae is good. They can work some miracles with licensed stuff too. Loved Batman Brave & The Bold on Wii. Contra 4 is still probably their best game.

I donated a stupid amount to their kickstarter, half for wanting to play Shantae, the other half because I think Wayforward deserves to make what they want to make.
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>>339906553
3 levels and you can choose weapons on completion. Dance Gun is fun.
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>>339905532
I got it in a bundle. It was cute and I don't honestly mind the "MC is a blithering retard" type of humor.
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>>339907721
>I genuinely think Gone Home was one of the best indie games to come out that year
explain

to me it was a very generic and boring story that only got attention because it involved a lesbian so gaming journos could point to it and say look at how progressive we are! If it had been lgbt lit or an lgbt film with the same story it would have been completely ignored as the dull tripe that it was. I remember when playing it I imagined my player character rolling her eyes as she found all of her sister's SUPER SEKRIT diary entries just lying around all over the place when she went home to get her car keys. I would have forgiven the game if the ending was your character calling up her sister on her cell phone and telling her not to do that shit again.

If you wish to pare down the gameplay because it gets in the way of the true point of your art, which I would imagine is an emotional evocation, then fine. But Gone Home did not justify doing this at all because there was no emotional evocation, just boredom.
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>>339906705
yeah, and he conveniently made the worst Adventure Time game ever made and one of the worst dungeon crawlers ever.
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>Wayforward
>Literally who
>Google
>creators of Silent Hill Book of Memories

Shit company.
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Thats quite the art style
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>>339908104
Many people don't know this, or at least don't talk about it, but their licensed games are surprisingly good, considering how little money and time they're given to work with.

We all know that people from out of the game industry whoring their franchises with cheap games is an industry standard, but what's new is the dev given the licence actually giving a shit and trying to make the best out of it.

A Boy and His blob is one of my favorite games and their Blood Rayne is pretty decent if you understand their design philosophy.
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>>339908486

You're over selling them.

They've had way more duds and mediocre licensed games than they've had good.
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>>339906064
>Tell me again how that's not feminism?
To be honest I'm having a hard time thinking of an explanation, but as long as the characters are all charming and the art is as cute as it is fappable, then I don't care.
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>>339898087
>What are your thoughts on Wayforward?
Live in your world fap in ours.
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>>339898087
Their games are to easy
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>>339908782
Just like your mother.
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>>339908279
I don't even really like Gone Home that much for the story, but rather the way it's delivered (i.e. creeping around a spooky empty mansion that's packed with all sorts of personality and flavor text and a frankly absurd amount of detail at times).

I'll admit that the whole "oh no now she's joining the military but I wooove heeeer~" thing has been done a lot before but that's actually a thing that happens so I gave it a pass. the homo aspect doesn't really play into my feelings about the game at all but it's just that delivery method that blew me away.

if Gone Home had just been a Dear Esther-type that just dumped exposition on you with some spooky imagery (and I do like the imagery in Esther, to be fair), it would have been completely forgettable, but the fact that the story and characters were portrayed in a way that no film or book or song could have done is kind of what blew me away about it. I know that sort of thing has been done before but I think gone home is a pretty stellar example in that regard.
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>>339907721
oh also you said gone home was one of the best indie games of 2013

2013 had don't starve, xeno clash 2, machinarium, papers please, dust an elysian tale, expeditions motherfucking conquistador, toki tori 2, spelunky, steamworld dig, volgarr the viking, shadowrun returns, and the stanley parable

all of which were far superior
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>>339908658
>Out of the Shadows, art style is weird, but hey, arkham co-op and the arcade mode could be cool!
>wow...fanservice is on point but the rest of this is not fun
>Oh hey, Wayforward is making a TMNT game! They do good shit!
>Wow...boring ass metroidvania huh...man.
>Okay, Platinum did good with that Transformers game, this has to be the one! They're even using the IDW designs!
>30 fps bland ass game with randomly generated objectives

None of you fuckers know my pain. At least the new cartoon and comics are great.
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>>339908881
>the stanley parable
>papers please

okay yeah I forgot about those. still think it's damn good though.
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>>339908893
>None of you fuckers know my pain.

No anon, I know exactly your pain

I bought them all. I wish I had people who was as stupid as me so I could at least enjoy Platinum TMNT with someone
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>>339898087
These constant shill threads kind of suck ass.
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>>339908658
Maybe you're the one misunderstanding what I mean.
They're still pretty much an indie dev. Having ANY good licensed games from minor/dead franchises is already quite a feat.

Don't take this as a challenge, but how many other devs of more or less that size and with those resources can work out games like Blob, Contra 4 or Neon? I'm asking because I sincerely can't think of any right now.
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>>339909126
>but how many other devs of more or less that size and with those resources can work out games like Blob, Contra 4 or Neon?
THQ once upon a time.
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>>339909036
Same anon...same.
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>>339909182
It must have been a LONG ASS time ago, because as far as I can remember they've always been kinda huge working with high profile tripleA stuff, specially with their publishing work. And publishing requires even more resources.

Are you seriously comparing them with WF?
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>>339906312
Same handful of people coming here to jack off to the same shitty art also.
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>>339908875
well I guess I can see your perspective

have you ever played Pathologic? It has its problems but it did this much better than gone home.
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>>339908809
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>>339909121
don't you have a consolewars thread to make?
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>>339909121
>Wayforward having money to pay shills
this meme is only used by the dumbest people, I swear to god.
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>>339909475
there's at least 2 handfuls of us though.
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>>339909496

I actually haven't even heard of that. I'll check that out, thanks anon
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>>339898087
Absolutely mediocre. Their best game was Contra 4.
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Their own games are mediocre at best, and they ruin every IP they touch (Contra, Double Dragon, Silent Hill).
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>>339909649
This. They coudn't even spare the staff to do it, since they're probably working the night shift to make their own IP games.
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Patty Wagon>Shantae.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10392609
Let's get a count going
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>>339909745
Less mediocre and more "hit and miss."
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>>339909126

A lot of them can. Wayforward doesn't have some sort of special shit going on. They're a small studio that's contracted to do projects that publishers don't want their internal studios wasting their time on.

You're only aware of their existence due entirely to Shantae. The rise of digital markets allowed for small time developers to push out games no publisher would make.

You want an example of another well known small independent developer that works on a bunch of licensed shit? Platinum Games and Treasure.
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Enough jacking off. I need help.

Second island. Found a dragon that needs ham to wake up. Found girls that have ham. One of them complains about a manager. I've already checked the entire island and unless I'm missing something, I don't think I can reach the top left corner of the 4 statue room without some sort of ability

I'm not sure what to do. Look for a manger? Crawl in some holes?

Please don't tell me the manager is in scuttle town
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>>339898087
I-I want to place my dick on her hips while she dances.
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>>339908687
It's not pushing a message. It's just characters doing things.
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>>339910961
Did you whip the ham and suck up the smell?
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>>339911137

>I didn't whip the ham correctly the first time
>Try it again
>It spins

Fuck me

Thanks
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>>339910961
Whip the shit out of that ham. C'mon man, you already know you need to interact with the ham.
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>>339911225
>almost every time I get stuck in a videogame it's some stupid shit like this
>I know it's just a silly little detail but I feel dumb every time anyway
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>>339911247

I thought it was an over water untimed escort mission
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>>339898460
I thought that was just James and not Wayforward
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>>339900415
It's basically a minigame. For something made exclusively for Humble Bundle's monthly nonsense, I hope you weren't expecting anything more.

It's creative at least. I wouldn't mind a full game with even more crazy game inspired weapons.
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>>339906064
Are you for real? Have you even played the games? Shantae has been a goofball since her debut, and even the more straight laced characters like Risky Boots and Sky have their moments of wackyness and stupidity. Bolo is dimwitted but a good fighter, Uncle Mimic is a genius inventor, the only weak buffoon male character is the Mayor who is a cowardly flake to everyone.
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>>339906064
the girls are cute and sexualized

is senran kagura feminist in your eyes?
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>>339910793
Yes, and those are fucking great developers, all things considered. Also, they're WAY bigger than WF, having woked on multiple tripleA games and having had their original stuff published by big companies like Sega and Nintendo, which means a lot more resources to work with and that's not the comparison I wanted to make here.

And they do have a special thing going on, which is style. I've said it already and I'll say it again: without their charming art and amazing music their games are more or less average, with a few exceptions for the better and quite a few for the worse.

And as a final point, I've known them since before I knew their original stuff. I was quite impressed with abahb before I knew about Shantae when I watched Matt's promotional material on WarioWare DIY, back in the day.

If I'm sounding a bit fanboyish it's possible that I made some exagerations for the sake of argument, but I genuinely enjoy their games enough for me to remember them and keep coming back for more, and that's more than I can say for most other companies.
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>>339911760
I always thought of Bolo as a typical "strong but stupid" kind of character. But really thinking about it he isn't really. More foolish than stupid, if that makes any sense.

I like Bolo a lot more now that I've spent a few seconds thinking about him. I guess Pirate's Curse is mostly to thanks for that. I actually can't remember much about him in Risky's Revenge.
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>>339912141
Bolo has never had much presence compared to the other main characters, probably because he's the only dude. I like him though, and feel like Pirate's Curse actually made fun of his little amount of screen time. I can't wait to play as him in Half Genie Hero actually.
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>>339911946
Not him but, female sexualization can sometimes be seen as a trait of power, like the woman being free to express her sexuality or some shit.

I guess it's more or less the same reason why feminists show their tits in public to protest.
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>>339912270
>I can't wait to play as him in Half Genie Hero actually.
Damn straight, dude has a ball and chain. As long as that's fun, everything else in the game is just fine with me.
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>>339908486
>Blood Rayne is pretty decent if you understand their design philosophy.
Maybe I'm the weird one fr this opinion, but I think it's one of their best games and I love how they actually made a BloodRayne game that is more than a guilty pleasure.
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There needs to be a Dwarf in Shantaes world that acts like vid.
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>>339908726
How do you get the secret that is on the top left side of this room? I can't make it to the top of the statues quick enough.
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>>339912519
Come back with the cannon.
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>Fire Gun
>Shantae has the skull scarf from her portrait on her sprite
>None of the other sprites have it
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The rival genie design in the new game looks like an NPC.
What even says 'genie' about this design? It's boring.
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>>339912652
ok
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>>339912729
I think you can go full-pirate in a NG+.
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>>339912417
I can totally see some people thinking that. Not the majority though.

In fact, most people just shit on it and disregard what the game was supposed to be, saying it's just an excuse for a bad game.
I can't say I appreciate it entirely, but I enjoyed the aesthetic and the action quite a bit and the game went smoothly fo me.
But only after I watched an interview with one of the developers about the game I understood better their ambition with the level design, the platforming and other design choices.
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>>339912780
I think she's cute as hell.
Doesn't look very genie-ish though, you're right about that. I think her appearance works as a sort of counterpart to Shantae though.
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>>339912729
She has the bandana on for all her pirate actions, including drifting with the hat and firing the cannon too, I think.

Is it cheap? A little. But this was her biggest game yet, and I think they didn't want to overemphasize her identity as a pirate, lest people not really understand that isn't her usual gig.
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>>339898087
they sold out to xseed.
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>>339912780
It is pretty damn bland. Cute, but nothing special to make her stand out. Sad for a series of really good character designs.

Is it supposed to be a joke maybe, like a rival that isn't taken seriously?
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>>339912819
"Pirate Mode" just means you start with all the pirate tools from the very beginning. It doesn't change her sprites.

Although you're going to be charging everywhere with the sword, so you'll mostly be seeing her pirate bandana anyways.
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>>339913093

Yeah, I ain't buying that excuse.
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>>339912780
Looks like more and ELF than a genie
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>>339913285
Look how much fresh animation the game features. Do you know how easy it is to edit a few pixels on Shantae's animations to feature a bandana? That would be pretty fuckin easy.

What I don't buy was that there isn't some other motivation for not changing her animations. They certainly had a shitton of new content, so something like editing in a few purple pixels should have been trivial.
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>>339913165
>Shantae with her hair down
>Rotty and Scuttletown dancer in bikinis
Perfect

>>339913262
Pirate mode is a godly addition desu
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>>339913165
>>339912986
Yeah I'm not even a big fan of the series but Shantae and Risky's design did pull me into playing the first game. At least they were strong.

Making her more brown and keeping this circlet around her head would probably help a bit.
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>>339912860
>But only after I watched an interview with one of the developers about the game I understood better their ambition with the level design, the platforming and other design choices.
Do you know where to find that interview?
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>>339913563
Don't really care about skin tone, since Shantae's got brown down. But yeah, some ornate looking jewelry/ headwear would seem fitting.
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>>339898087
Immature snotty fans.
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A bunch of spic and white commiefornian programmers jammed into a medium sized building trying too hard to be Japanese devs.
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Well, she isn't a real genie.
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>>339898087
Someone link those Shantae fapfics already
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Their game cat girl without salad is the only reason I bought the humble monthly bundle. That's should tell you my opinion.
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>>339901423
> Shantae was a super obscure game that sold like shit and randomly they decided to make a sequel nearly a decade later.
One: It "Sold like shit" because it was released by Capcom that decided to publish it on the already outdated Game Boy Color, instead of releasing it on the GBA, that's why. Two: Wayforward didn't randomly make a sequel years later, they made a sequel after trying 2 other times before it, a game for the GBA, and another for the Gamecube, a 3D first. But both got canceled from inefficient management, and by the DS, they were able to make a sequel thanks to enough support, which upon the success of said game; Risky's Revenge, 2 more games came forth from the ashes of the Shantae series, Pirate's Curse and Half-Genie Hero.
Shantae has come a long way, and there's nothing random that Wayforward does, they take pride into something that's basically their "mascot" that's been a thing ever since the 1990s.
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>Run Run Rottytops

This segment went on for too long
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>>339914751
>One: It "Sold like shit" because it was released by Capcom that decided to publish it on the already outdated Game Boy Color, instead of releasing it on the GBA, that's why

>Make a game for the GBC
>Blame the publisher for not releasing it for the GBA
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>>339913165
Looks like barracuda Joe became a follower of the desert princess.
After breaking up with Skye.
The madman
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>>339914853
I blame them, yes. Why? That didn't stop the likes of Nintendo from doing the same for their IPs. Ever heard of Mother 3? Did you know that game was going to be on the Nintendo 64? Cuz it was, but was cancelled, than remade for the Gameboy Advance.
If Nintendo can do it, Crapcom could have done so as well.
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>>339914956
Geh, meant for >>339914930
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>>339904347
Too bad only one of the Shantae games can be considered "good"
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>>339907452
Literally Falcon from Powerstone
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>>339898860
You mean you like Kaufman music. He's a great composer.
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devs who make fun to play games.
Games also have cute girls, which is cool. You could replace all the characters with copies of my high school history teacher and the games would still be fun. Actually that'd be hilarious.
Dr.Morgan the half genie protects scuttle town from the sexy pirate Dr.Morgan.
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>>339904060
Oddly enough the best thing about it is the dialogue. CGwS is a fucking retard of a character, but so is everyone else. The gameplay/animation is a little stale, but since it is an essentially free game, I am having fun. However, it sucks they didn't stick with the April Fools' style, which kind of looks like the Desolate Hope
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>>339915106

That is by far the dumbest example you could have used.

Mother 3 faced development issues that caused it to be pushed back constantly to the point of being cancelled. The game restarted development years later for a new platform.

Not to mention that Mother 3 was entirely a Nintendo project with their inhouse talent.

Shantae was developed by Wayforward as a Gameboy Color released and pitched to several publishers. Capcom ended up picking it up and publishing the game. Capcom had nothing to do with its development. The game was already made. To remake the entire game for a completely new platform in a short amount of time would not be Capcom's problem, it be Wayforward's.

The only thing you can blame Capcom for is delaying the release, and even Bozon doesn't blame Capcom for that.
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>>339914031
Genies are not real.
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>>339904761
>MSF2 still isn't on PC but the mobile game is
Matt Bozon's head needs to be on a stick now, I need more
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>>339906962
Also in her own words she isn't s good role model given her temperament and outlandish costume
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>>339908893
>>339909036
At least you have the new movie to wash out the taste of the game
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>>339915774

Yeah...that new movie
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>>339906874
>does Pirate's Curse get better as you go on
I dunno, I literally bought it on WiiU and dled it the hour of release and didn't stop playing it till I beat it (I was out of a job at the time) One sitting, 8 hours. I had a real fun time, start to finish and really enjoyed getting every item by myself as there were no guides to be found
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>>339915859
Common now Anon, you have rocksteady, bebop, Kang and they act like their cartoon counterparts
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>>339915651
> Mother 3 faced development issues that caused it to be pushed back constantly to the point of being cancelled.
But, wasn't that exactly what happened to the 2 cancelled Shantae games?...
> Not to mention that Mother 3 was entirely a Nintendo project with their inhouse talent.
Sure, point taken, but I can't say how hard it could have been just to port the first Shantae over to Advance with added detail and features, hell it DID had a feature where you can turn into a Tinkerbat when you play the game on the GBA, so it had that.
> Capcom had nothing to do with its development. The game was already made.
I never said they did. I said they could have PUBLISH the game to GBA to boost the sales.
> To remake the entire game for a completely new platform in a short amount of time would not be Capcom's problem, it be Wayforward's.
Besides wh\\my inital comparision to a game that was redo from the ground up to go to the GBA, I didn't ask for that to be done to Shantae 1, just get published to the Advance.
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>>339906064
Because that's real feminism not modern feminism.

Modern feminism's goal is the elimination of all men and all women must be ugly.
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>>339900459

There's a bigger one out there. I wonder if it could be posted in .webm
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>>339898087
Mediocre platformers with good music.

Jake Kaufman is a great composer.
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>>339898087

I like their games but the only one I've ever finished was LIT.And I mean the hard mode newgame+

I spend long nights trying to figure out what that says about me.
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>>339917901
>But, wasn't that exactly what happened to the 2 cancelled Shantae games?...

Don't be dumb. Those two cancelled games were not the ones that were pitched to publishers. Wayforward pitched the GBC version. The GameCube and GBA games were developed afterwards and went nowhere.

>I can't say how hard it could have been just to port the first Shantae over to Advance with added detail and features, hell it DID had a feature where you can turn into a Tinkerbat when you play the game on the GBA, so it had that.

The game didn't need to be ported. It was compatible with the GBA.

Actually porting it would again, be an issue with Wayforward, not Capcom. And porting it would be difficult based on how much of their game was designed around the GBC's limitations like screen space. If they have any events that are triggered based on your position or any ugly areas you're not suppose to see, Wayforward would have to go back and redo those areas which means a whole new batch of Q&A they have to deal with

>I never said they did. I said they could have PUBLISH the game to GBA to boost the sales.
>I didn't ask for that to be done to Shantae 1, just get published to the Advance.

That in no way would have guranteed sales. If anything, it had a potential of hurting the game in the long run as you have all these games on the GBA looking SNES games, and here comes Shantae which looks like shit to your average consumer. Reviews would have definitely torn it apart too.

Simple matter is that games with girls as leads just don't sell. Shantae doesn't appeal to a majority of boys, and they aren't going to market a barely dressed woman to girls. It's exactly why they had trouble finding a publisher. The game was doomed from the start.

It's a miracle Capcom even picked it up.

But sure, it's all Capcom's fault.
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>>339898087
I would love them to either make and hd remake of zelda 2 or a sequel in terms of gameplay.
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I think they should post more gifs
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>>339918794
Lit was the only game of theirs I played for more than an hour actually. I guess it's their best game as far as I'm concerned? Neat idea anyway.
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>>339909126
Treasure and Vanillaware come to mind
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>>339898087
Overrated devs. Contra 4 was so disappointing.
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>This thread
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>>339909126
I haven't played blob but Neon fucking sucks and Contra 4 is good but ReBirth shits on it imo.
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>>339920423
that /v/ never existed.
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>>339920423
Uhhh, what?
What did I use my first wish on?
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>>339920423

For Shantae to have an actual fantastic game and not just an OK game
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>>339899513
Wait...XSEED is publishing a physical copy of Half Genie Hero? On what platform?
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>>339921306
PlayStation 4, Wii U, Vita
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>>339921512
NICE. I just looked it up and they're including the OST to spread awareness. I kickstarted it, so if the game is good I might double dip.
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>>339898087
Yacht club games is new hotness and ex wayforward employees.

Always remember that its the people who matter and not the company name. Thats why sticker star happened.
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>>339921121
What bits are sparkling and more well developed than usual anon
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>>339914853
>There's a trophy for doing it without getting hurt/dying in the PS4 version

I'm not going through that shit again.
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Cat Girl Without Salad OST when?
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>>339922126

Doesn't sound to difficult

It's just tedious and far too long
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>>339906064
the female characters are sexualized for men, something that queen anita doesn't like
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>>339907452
This is just that guy from Power Stone
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>>339907452
Why does this always get posted every thread?
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>>339923103
Is usually lurk the shantae threads and this is the first time I've seen that, I think
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>>339898087
Show me OFFICIAL Shantate feet and toes. not fanart
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>Pirate Cat Girl Without Salad
>WASD to move
>Azerty keyboard
FUCK
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>>339924114
>Alt+Maj
pédé
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>>339924280
Already tried that, I'm not that stupid. Worked for everything except the game for some stupid reason.
Like, I typed this very post with Qwerty settings but the game completely ignores it.
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>>339925180
Joy2key to force rebind the keys as qwerty?
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>>339898087
Based as fuck
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>>339898341
Yep. I'm more than happy to throw my money at them for sticking to their target market instead of a common denominator.
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>>339899010
>white shantae
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>>339906416
>lying on /v/
Should have just called him a triggered faggot, MAN
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>>339928986
maybe it's just the lighting? you know like with gashigashi and his fanart of garnet that one time?
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>>339904761
OOHH!!
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>>339920423
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>>339906064

Pretty much everyone is pretty dumb on some level, except for Risky.

Anyways Shantae wasn't created with the idea of pleasing SJW/feminists in mind. She was created as a woman, organically, (and in 1994, long before this crap began) by Matt & Erin, and the rest of the characters followed suit.
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>>339906064

Because they're also all scantily clad fap bait.
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>>339931869
so are the feminists who go with their tits and asses out. maybe except the fap bait because they're all ugly and insecure about it.
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Anon...
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>>339898460
>>339900415
>>339911603
>>339905584
>>339911441
>they don't remember that it was an april fools joke in 2013
Jesus christ, guys.
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>>339907179

This, basically.

Shantae is a clumsy, inept, awkward, somewhat airheaded idealist. She has a big heart, tries to do the right thing, and wants to be a hero, but she doesn't always get it right. Sometimes she screws up royally.

It's what makes her such a great character, really. She has a personality. Glaring flaws which make her seem human. (well, half human.)

Funny, the little half-naked cartoon genie girl from some basement dev is a more complex and charming female vidya hero than pretty much any AAA big-budget "muh stronk womyn" character out there.
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>>339920423

that this world wasn't so shit
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>>339932094
I didn't wish for this!
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>>339906064
Because the girls are sexy.

Current feminism is literally the inverse of late 80s early 90s feminism.
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>playing ducktales remastered yesterday
>spend HOURS on the fucking final level.
>Keep on dying on the final ascent up the mountain to escape
>look it up on you tube

Turns out jumping on chains works everytime if holding it diagonally. And there is an easier route to take to skip the last batch of chains.

I beat it a 1 AM last night. The fucking rage I had christ
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