What happened?
>>339823720
Bayonetta's second game was a Nintendo exclusive and funded by them.
The better character got in.
>>339823720
Konami being dicks.
>>339823720
>Putting in Simon when Alucard is so much cooler
>>339823720
Bayonetta did have 2 games anon, plus Simon is a pussy whipped faggot.
>>339823839
Where? I don't see it, clearly the checkmark is on the whore.
Bayonetta is more well known now dumb ass. I don't give a shit about her but stop fan boying
>>339823720
>Publeshed
>>339823720
>using that leather fag design for Simon
opinion discarded
Yeah but Bayonetta won the character poll, which is why she was included in the game.
>>339824128
>>339823987
>whipped
>>339823720
>wasn't published by a company that tried to kill Nintendo
When was the last time Konami made a game for a Nintendo system other than Yu-gi-oh?
>>339824208
B-B-But that was rigged cuz muh Ridley didn't git in!
>>339823720
>blaming Platinum for Konami going full retard.
ok friend.
>>339824323
I voted for Goku desu senpai
The rights for Bayonetta were easy as shit to get. Ballot meant obsultely nothing.
Who's that on the left anyway?
>>339823821
yeah what a completely retarded argument
oh no bayonetta was published by a company that tried to kill nintendo!!! and was also published by nintendo
Democracy happened bitch!
go europe votes
>>339824557
Vampire Killer
>>339823720
nintendo only cares about memes
castlevania is not a meme
>>339823720
Pachinko and LoS happened.
Konami is to blame.
I voted for that motherfucker.
>>339823720
If Castlevania got a char, it would've been Alucard and we'd have yet another swordfaggot>vampire Marth
>>339824676
>castlevania is not a meme
>>339824772
Are you implying Alucard would not be a good decision because you would be wrong.
>>339824772
If we got Belmont or even Soma it would be aMarthanyway.Whip Marth and Dracula Marth
>>339824810
No, Castlevania is dead.
>>339824905
Alucard would be a nice character but Simon would be better and much more original. Plus Simon deserves it much more than Alucard ever did.
>>339824905
Oh, this guy can wavedash backwards! Can't even turn into other things because hardware limitations.
>>339823720
>voted for Dracula to get in because using all that sweet ass magic for his attacks plus devil bat monster thing for his smash would be 10/10
>Ryu, Cloud and Bayo get in instead
I'm so glad I didn't bother with Smash this generation.
>>339824230
>Typo
>Implying
The letters use different fuckin hands, you just don't know how to spell
>>339824676
>castlevania is not a meme
Whatis a man?
>>339825016
Name one example in Smash were the enemy got in with out the main character
oh look i found the rest of this image
>>339825016
It's not their fault Konami went full retard this year. If they ever let a character enter smash it would probably be a football/soccer player from PES
>Ronaldo/Messi
Be glad pachinko is not a characteryet
>>339823720
I'd like barbarian Simon to be in the next one
>>339825139
Lots of salt
FIXED IT FOR YOU op
>>339825214
yeah belmontfags are pretty salty
>>339825139
>sucks dick
IDK, Bayo seems the type to give you a rough handjob or footjob (with heels on) rather than oral.
>>339823720
>tried to kill nintendo
The what now?
>>339825280
kek, whatever platdrone
>>339825285
>with heels on
Noice
>>339823720
Nintendo likes being cucked. Ryu got in, but SFV wasn't on Wii U, kek. Same with Cloud. If the complete edition of SFV and the FFVII remake aren't on NX, it will prove Ryu and Cloud are Nintendo's wife's sons.
>>339825139
>sucks dick
I chuckled.
>>339823720
>What happened?
Konami.
But you already knew that before you made this thread.
>>339823720
Are you aware of the state of the current year Konami anon? Its fucking horrible
>>339825285
>rough footjob (with heels on)
This is my ultimate fetish. High heel footjobs are far too rare.
>>339825549
I'm sorry, what year is it?
>>339825016
>Drac moveseet without transformations
>triple ball
>???
It took Ecclesia to finally make him walk and kick people instead of teleporting
>>339825646
2018 and video games are all dead.
Why didn't Wolf get in? I didn't want him in at all (voted for Phoenix Wright, even though he probably had no chance) but with SFZero he seemed like a good promotional choice.
>>339825549
It hurts that there will never be another god-tier 2D handheld Castlevania platformer. They were one of the main selling points of the Nintendo handhelds. JDIMSA
There was never anyone who said that extra characters had to be on nintendo to get in smash, and by the looks of it she was more popular than him so yeah
>>339825839
Good question...
>>339825894
They were pretty nice yeah. They're one of the main reasons I love the ds so much.
One is owned by Ko "Fuck you" nami, the other is not.
>>339825894
>>339826221
Blame Konami, I believe Nintendo were the ones who made a push to make a sidescrolling Lords of Shadows game and we all know how that one and the rest of that trilogy turned out to be.
Such a missed oportunity...
I hope Bloodstained turns out to be alright, I'm craving for some fresh Castlevania and I've played almost all titles with similar style to it.
>>339826221
Yes exactly. All three were amazing. Lords of Shadow or whatever that gayshit 3DS one was embarrassing. Third party edgelord reboot God of War rip-off.
>>339823720
Classic Castlevania rankings:
1. Rondo of Blood
2. X68000
3. Akumajou Densetsu
4. New Generation
5. Castlevania (Amiga)
6. Master of Darkness
7. Castlevania (NES)
8. Dracula's Curse
9. Legends
10. The Adventure II
11. The Adventure
12. Vampire's Kiss
13. Super Castlevania Bros
>>339823720
Konami cared more about making a Castlevania pachinko.
>>339826473
It's so weird to me that it won't be on the 3ds.
>>339823821
And the first 70 Castlevania games were Nintendo exclusives too
>>339827931
Didn't they reach the stretch goal for 3DS and Vita?
Must be the engine then. It would sell like cupcakes on the 3DS. I also doubt the design team is the one responsible for making all the distribution decisions. The game was going to be PS4 and Xbone only and both of them have shit Castlevania fanbase right now.
>>339823720
While I love Bayo being in the game, Simon would be my second choice. A sample uf this as his victory theme would be so perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sX3fjpkFwk
Why do people want a super serious, rugged vampire hunter that uses religious stuff to smite the enemies of god? I mean, has castlevania even made fun of itself in a main game? All games seem to take themselves serious and not fun in the comic sense.
>>339828180
It won't since the 3DS is a fucking piece of shit that even the best optimization would be a wasted effort on a shoddy port.
Just stick with the Vita.
>>339828180
The handheld goal I think was just for vita. Just seems like an odd choice to me.
>>339828068
The first one was, the second one and most after it were not. The original was also ported to most computers.
>>339828362
But then I'd have to own a vita.
>>339828362
>Just stick with the Vita.
I'm not going to buy an overpriced paperweight.
3DS and Vita will have a prequel minigame, that's why I thought the 3DS was getting a port, but read it wrong.
>>339828180
I'll just get it on wii u.
>>339823720
I thought another NES/SNES character would make it into Smash, and I had high hopes for Belmont and Bomberman.
Maybe next time.
>>339829162
Those games are more famous on other systems.
awesome
>wanting the shitty redesign
People are still mad about this months later?
>>339828068
Swing and a miss there, champ.
>>339829431
>not wanting the Captain N design
>>339830218
>wanting Nintendo shit
>>339830352
Yes, most people want nintendo shit in a nintendo game.
>>339830489
Smash Bros would be better without the faggy Nintendo characters and if it had a traditional fighting game style.
>>339830581
So another street fighter clone?
>>339830352
>wanting shit
>>339828362
>muh dead handheld
3DS would easily triple the sales.
>>339823845
They want their stuff to only be in the NX version of Smash.
>>339829162
>Castlevania
>Literally only one game has more fame in another system
>Bomberman
I have no example for this one, I mean, Bomberman has been everywhere but enjoyed most of the fame on Nintendo.
>>339823720
OP, I don't think anyone else pointed out but you forgot to check the first box.
Faggot.
>>339827857
No they backed out on that after a huge amount of backlash, they did do Big Boss but that was planed way ahead of time.
>>339830680
Bomberman is way more famous on the PC Engine. It's more famous on Saturn than on any Nintendo system.
The non-Nintendo classic Castlevania games are not only more numerous but more famous. Sorry that you live in a bubble.
>>339830894But he didn'tI don't know why he included it though.
>>339830904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rszPXD8PSdY
>>339830894
Simon is a Konami character.
>>339823720
Because Konami are bonkers nowadays and would never let them use their characters, why do you think Snake didn't come back?
>>339831038
So is TwinBee.
>>339831159
They are trying to redeem themselves after what happen in 2015.
>>339830970
>Bomberman is way more famous on the PC Engine
You're the one living in a bubble. You're thinking about the beggining, what about the rest up until now?
You forget that the Saturn is not as well known as you might think, if you ask who Bomberman belongs to the most likely answer will be Nintendo even if the dumbfucks who answer that haven't played the game. Saturn lived and died too quick despite having great gems.
Castlevania enjoyed a period of fantastic games on nintendo for a long time specially because of classic and "metroid"vania titles (I hate that word).
The most memorable titles outside of nintendo are Dracula X, Rondo of Blood and SotN.
Get out of the basement anon.
>>339830970
>Bomberman is way more famous on the PC Engine
... what? Hell no!
>>339831309
Who the fuck played Bomberman on Nintendo? I didn't even know there were versions for Nintendo consoles until recently.
Those Castlevanias are not on Nintendo, they're on PC Engine and Playstation X, you retard. The best Castlevania games are on the Mega Drive and the X68000.
>>339823720
No one remembers Simon especially since Konami changes out Castlevania mc's every few games.
>>339831442
Yes. It's most famous on PC Engine, Saturn, and maybe Playstation X. The Nintendo ones were played by no one because no one gave a shit about Nintendo until the Wii.
>>339831638
I know it's baiting but I don't think anything is best known for being on the saturn
>>339831492
>Those Castlevanias are not on Nintendo, they're on PC Engine and Playstation X, you retard
He didn't say they were.
>outside of nintendo
You're the retard.
Also, I played Bomberman on nintendo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bomberman_video_games
>Literally half of those titles were released on nintendo consoles
KEK
The funny part is in 2016, even before her addition to smash, more people would recognize bayonetta than any of the best known castlevania protagonists.
>>339831492
Holy shit, learn how to read
>>339823987
Check your reading compression.
>>339831879
People wanted the Bear & Bird was the thing, however Bamco was too lazy to clear therights with Microsoft so they picked Bayo instead as she was No.1 in Europe.
>>339831492
>I didn't even know there were versions for Nintendo consoles until recently.
How fucking clueless can a person be?
>>339831638
>no one gave a shit about Nintendo until the Wii.
Man, Bomberman has been on nintendo ever since the beggining, NES, SNES, N64, GC, Wii, all had Bomberman games. And don't even get me started on handhelds or mobile. Bomberman isn't remembered on the saturn or the PSX, much less the PC engine.
Most of the people who are fond of Bomberman played it on a Nintendo console, if you have doubts go make a thread and a strawpoll.
RIP
>>339831492
>I didn't even know there were versions for Nintendo consoles until recently.
And you still say I was the one living in a bubble?
For fucks sake, go to wikipedia and check that shit out.
>>339831492
>>339831638
>mfw
Jesus fucking christ, we've found a burried fossil posting on 4chan!
>>339823720
The criteria in your pic is completely meaningless and something you made up yourself to justify your anger of your favourite character not getting in smash.
>>339823720
Better comparison is mega man desu. He was in the same boat as Simon but got picked anyway probably because y'know Konami being fucking Konami.
>Konami will never let Smash use their IPs ever again
It's like they don't want advertisement for their games.
>>339831793
People who know games know the best versions. Only Americunts who couldn't afford to import from Japan would go near those retarded Nintenyearold consoles.
>>339831757
Saturn Bomberman is the definitive game in the series. Other series at their best on the Saturn
>Nights Into Dreams
>Sakura Wars
>Tactics Ogre
>Cyber Doll
>Tomb Raider
>Out Run
>Street Fighter Alpha series
>Sega Rally
>Clockwork Knight
>Keio Flying Squadron
>Shining series
>Story of Thor
>>339832157
>>339832073
>>339832039
>>339831951
Fuck off, Amerifats, only you were retarded enough to play Nintendo's crappy consoles.
>tfw no castlemania HDpachinko machine
>>339832467
What does being american have to do with the saturn being crap?
>>339832073
I would argue that Bomberman had a strong following on Genesis and PC Engine. Bomberman '94, also called Mega Bomberman elsewhere, is considered one of the absolute best in the series.
I agree though, Bomberman has made a home on Nintendo consoles more than anything else and the handhelds were huge. You would have to actively avoid Nintendo consoles to not know this.
>>339832467
HOgo fuck yourself, seriously
>>339830218
I wanted it.
>>339832443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsOFdZ8X54
It's like they don't care about their games.
>>339832689
They kept letting Kojima make Metal Gear Solid games after 2, they never did.
>>339832505
Anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN0Te7uTi7o
>>339830991
this is disgusting
>>339830678
No, they would only want their stuff to be in the Pachislot version of Smash. And also that there would be a Pachislot version of Smash. And that the Pachislot version of Smash would be the only version of Smash. And that Konami reaped all profits from the Pachislot Smash.
>>339823720
>publeshed
>>339832467
>Fuck off, Amerifats
I'm european and most people call me an old fag or a nerd because I know what a saturn is. Literally no one knows what a saturn is. Even the master system and mega drive 2 were more popular.
Also, are we talking about fame or best versions now? Because the subject was fame before and you changed it now because it seems you are feeling a bit of salt on your ass. Tough hemorroids.
>>339832505
There's a castlevania pachinko anon... Sad, but true.
>>339832571
Yes, anon, the third best console of all time is crap. Where do you pick up such shit taste?
Top 10 consoles:
1. Mega Drive
2. PC Engine
3. Saturn
4. Master System
5. Neo Geo
6. Dreamcast
7. PC-FX
8. Playstation X
9. 3DO
10. Playstation 2
>>339832775
Jesus Fuck.
They got all their bases covered don't they.
>>339832951
Where the fuck did that list even come from?
>>339832937
Fame among actual game players, not just casual American Nintenyearolds.
>2002+14
>still trusting Nintendo to not be a fucking retarded company
>going through the effort of even making a thread that would suggest otherwise
You're either underage or a gullible manchild.
>>339832689
WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT IS THIS
>>339833056
Actual game players like those games. But if we're talking about fame SotN wins most of the contests.
>>339833040
Those are the ten best dedicated game consoles of all time.
>>339833156
Listed by who and on what basis?
>>339830991
>>339832775
>those hype as fuck videos
>game is about watching little balls fall down and randomly getting into slots with little to no interaction whatsoever
>>339831638
>No one gave a shit about the Nintendo until the Wii
You're literally fucking retarded. The Nintendo was the most popular gaming console of it's time and literally saved the video game industry from dying out.Note that I am referring to it's popularity in sales and reviving the industry, not saying anything about it having superior games or hardware.
They would have to go to Konami and they don't know who the fuck Simon Belmont is. Why don't you stupid mother fuckers understand? No one in 2016 is thinking about Simon Belmont and Bomberman. You guys were like a whole have step from asking for stupid shit Bonk and Master Higgins in smash
>>339823720
The difference is that Bayonetta 2 happened because of Nintendo.
>>339833240
Me and on quality of both hardware for its time and library.
>>339832951
>Best consoles
>Failures are listed
Whatever you say grandpa.
Don't forget to take your pills, ok?
>>339832951
Are you that australia guy /vr/ keeps talking about because god damn
>>339832689
>>339832775
But wait, there's more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ht4dbyPIcM
>>339833339
My little anon can't be this dumb...
>>339833289
That's because they are aiming for the niche "otaku gambling addict" demographic.
>>339833294
You retard. There was no crash outside of American home consoles. European gaming enjoyed its greatest boom period in 1982/3/4 and Japan launched the SG-1000 and the Famicom in 1983 to rousing success. Hell, American arcades and computer games still thrived. Nintendo saved nothing.
>>339832951
>>339833339
Best shit I've read so far today.
>>339833341
By your logic the Wii is the best console ever.
>>339833308
>Belmont not relevant
Was Mega Man anywhere near as relevant at the time? I think if not for his name he wouldn't be.
Lords of Shadow probably made more money in the past few years than Mega Man has in a decade. Castlevania is still the Belmont's game and Simon is THE Belmont.
>>339832951
Are you on drugs?
Corrin was a mistake
>>339833594
I bet you've never even played, let alone owned, any of those consoles, kid.
>>339833696
How can you challenge anything on that list? What else would you include?
>>339832467
> Only Americunts who couldn't afford to import from Japan would go near those retarded Nintenyearold consoles.
I never even heard about the Saturn or the Dreamcast until I found out about them from the internet.
Sega was irrelevant as a console manufacture after the Mega drive, even in Europe.
>>339832951
>ok it's a list, let's see the explana-
>>339833339
Ok...
>>339833643
Jesus, I'm a PS fag and I can smell that anti nintendo bias from here. Go take a shower, you got shit piled up to your fucking brain. Give credit where credit's due but don't be delusional about it.
>>339832951
>Playstation X
Are you from the future?
>>339833939
You must have been a retard. In Australia the Saturn competed well with the Playstation X. The Saturn also had an exceptional library of games only released in Japan which could be easily imported.
>>339833643
Best game ever made was on Wii, so I guess you might aswell say that.
>>339834064
>Ausfailia
Explains the level of your posts.
>>339833990
Nintendo consoles are always boring. No great, innovative games. Just the boring, safe bullshit. It's probably because Nintendo never made great arcade games like Sega that they were so far behind in terms of innovation.
>>339833939
>didn't hear about the dreamcast
were you literally living under a rock
I can get the Saturn, since Sega wholly, completely, utterly fucked up marketing the thing, but Sega actually pushed the DC pretty hard.
>>339834102
The best game ever made is Gunstar Heroes.
>>339833939
>Sega was irrelevant as a console manufacture after the Mega drive, even in Europe.
Saturns were rare but Dreamcasts were common until the PS2 showed up. Even then it was still rare.
>>339833814
SNES, go ahead and prove to me why it shouldn't be on the list.
Also, even Nintendrones have a certaon bias against the Wii. Before complaining about nintendo you should really try to play the consoles themselves.
For the record and before you complain like you did before to this guy >>339833727 I played all games, started on CV IV and ended up playing everything else through emulation. And yes, I did play the saturn versions.
>>339834346
It's pretty good, but it's not even the best Treasure game, try again.
>>339834231
What are Playstation and Xbox then?
>>339834346
It's fucking awesome but I would vouch for S&P.
>60 (sixty, six zero) or so characters in smash 4
>not one ethnic or sexual deviant degenerate whatsoever shoe horned in
why are nintendo so based?
>>339823720
>Existed before the original smash
>Started out on a nintendo console
I mean the pickings were slim, nintendo or sega and Nintendo had a much larger market. Therefore most games were made for Nintendo's consoles instead of Sega.
>>339834435
Bait.
>>339834382
The Snes was a severely underpowered machine for 1990 and it shows. Most games, like Super Castlevania Bros, suffer from extreme slowdown. The system simply can't handle many sprites at a time thanks to it's laughable CPU clockspeed. The Snes has no great games. I can't think of a single revolutionary or legendary game on the system. It had a weak library.
>>339834064
>You must have been a retard. In Australia the Saturn competed well with the Playstation X.
For the record, Oceania is the smallest continent in our world and Saturn, even if it was good in Australia, fucked up everywhere else! Nintendo and Sony ruled most of the market, Sega had good entries with the master system, mega drive and later with dreamcast but the saturn failed miserably, same with pretty much every other console you mentioned.
>>339834304
>>339834382
They pushed it so fucking hard that not a single of the local gaming magazines wrote about them.
>>339823720
But Bayonetta 2 was published by a company that is actively trying to kill Nintendo....
>>339823720
More female representation.
>>339834696
>This whole post
>>339834708
>implying anyone outside of the US cared about the N64
N64 was a distant third even in Japan. Before FFXVII the Saturn was beating the PSX.
>>339834502
The Playstation was a weak system with a few very good games but too many narrative driven games. It didn't deserve the success it had.
The Xbox came too late and, with no great titles and a short life span, it failed like it deserved to.
>>339834231
>No great, innovative games
>Super Mario 64
First 3D platformer.
>Super Metroid
Started the metroidvania genre.
>Earthbound
I don't even know where to start with this one.
But I guess you're so blind to bias you can't see facts.
>>339834948
>Before FFXVII
HE IS FROM THE FUTURE!
>>339834990
That image is disgusting. Shows what American children know about games.
>>339834990
lol the megadrive had such an easy bracket too. it would have got duffed by the ps2, ps1 or NES
>>339835067
>First 3D platformer.
Please be a troll.
>Started the metroidvania genre.
Seriously please be a troll.
>I don't even know where to start with this one.
Are you gonna tell me Mother 2 invented quirks and memes?
>>339835220
Says more about the idiots who post here that Playstation and Nintendo are held in such high regard.
>>339834948
>>339835108
Seriously man, you should stop. I doubt anyone is even taking you seriously at this point and you're not making yourself seem any better.
You like Sega? Ok, fine, it deserves respect. But bashing nintendo the way you are doing it because you are so ass blasted about something they did to you is just stupid.
>>339835237
Dude don't call it mother 2. Don't be that guy.
>>339835328
Sorry, but Nintendo deserves it. They ruined video games for millions of American kids with their shit consoles. They've ruined American game development indefinitely, too.
>>339835067
You're wrong on a couple of things but it's true that Nintendo was the one that inovated the most out of most companies even with underpowered hardware.
Heck, that's why people laugh about them, because they try new shit that might not even work. Saying Nintendo doesn't innovate is like saying chickens don't lay eggs.
>>339835321
As opposed to who?
>>339835357
It was never released in PAL territories, I imported it from Japan. To me it is Mother 2.
>>339834990
>NES beat PS3
>Pairing the PS1 up with the SNES when that's not even fair
>Pairing the PS2 up with the SNES when that's not even fair
>NGC getting beat by the 360
/v/ was a mistake.
>>339835501
What have they ever innovated?
>>339835461
That was not Nintendo. What the fuck are you even talking about?
Why are you so obsessed with Nintendo and Americans?
You have a fucking trauma going there.
>>339835546
i was going to ask him that, but it seemed like such an obvious question that i was surely being baited
>best castlevania song
>not bloody tears
Realistically they'd balance it so you have pitiful range on the whip so you can't spam attacks to edge gaurd.
>>339835461
Did Nintendo rape your mother or something?
>>339835574
>>NES beat PS3
Are you somehow implying it should be the other way around? Because the PS3 was a terrible console.
>>339835641
Not the other guy but, are you fucking serious right now?
Do you live under a rock and is the only site you have access to 4chan?
>>339835718
I ain't gonna argue with that
>>339835649
Yes it was. Nintendo's shit consoles and awful games dominating America has ruined American game development with retarded Nintendo game design philosophies.
>>339835781
So you don't have anything?
>>339835461
Were you tortured by an american kid who had a nintendo console?
>>339835809
I know you're baiting but I'm curious. What retarded design philosophies?
>>339835763
>Literally Shovelware; The Console
>Beating anything ever
I love Nintendo, but the NES had a horrid library and was riddled with plastic shit like the Glove and the Zapper.
>>339835809
Nintendo game design philosophies are not the ones ruining gaming, anon.
Try a harder bait next time.
>>339823720
>Bayo is STILL making people mad
>>339835690
Perhaps, but still looking at it genuinely for a moment it doesn't make much sense.
>How dare Sony and Nintendo place so high on a list of best consoles ever.
They basically made the majority of popular consoles in the last couple of decades, who else is going to be high on that list other than Microsoft and Sega.
>How dare people praise 2 out of the 4 options for gaming now adays.
Holy fuck, if this is bait it got me good.
>>339835901
Lack of innovation, using old engines and designs, simplicity, accessibility to children. Basically the antithesis of arcade sensibility.
>>339835990
Why is asuka so smug all the time?
>>339835969
>Saved the gayman industry
>Piles of great games
>Horrid
Nah family
>>339835982
Yes they are, you just can't see it because you like Nintendo.
>>339834990
Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis? When I was dead broke, man, I couldn't picture this.
>>339835990
>People bitching over an actual unique and interesting character
>Not FE Character #162
/v/ has some bass-ackwards logic sometimes.
>>339823720
She won the ballot, nigger they had that shit up for nearly the entire last year how did you forget.
>>339835067
>Started the metroidvania genre
A lot of Nihon Falcom games started building on that premise years before Metroid even existed. (also, Miyamoto blatantly stole ideas from games like Dragon Slayer for Zelda)
>Earthbound
In what way is Mother innovative?
If you are talking about the setting Square's Tom Sawyer predates it. Not that a coat of paint is enough to qualify as innovative.
If you are talking about quirky/humourous RPG the Famicom was full of those.
>First 3D platformer
This sound wrong but I don't really care enough to check, it's a garbage genre anyway.
As usual, Nintendo kiddies know nothing about gaming.
>>339836084
See
>>339833552
Stop learning history from e-celebs who don't do their research.
>>339836084
Being better than the Atari wasn't a hard thing to do Anon.
>>339835895
Gee I wonder..
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/26/11-gaming-innovations-we-owe-to-nintendo
http://www.ranker.com/list/the-25-best-and-worst-nintendo-innovations/adamthomas
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Corporate/Nintendo-History/Nintendo-History-625945.html
https://www.techinasia.com/present-future-nintendo
>>339836202
There were dozens of 3D platformers before the N64, there were 'Metroid style' games before Metroid was released on NES, and I don't know how the fuck Mother 2 is innovative in the slightest. That guy is a total fucktard.
>>339836350
Name some, I'm not visiting those websites. Shows how little you know off the top of your head.
>>339836130
I'm still waiting for you to tell me why.
Go ahead.
>>339835067
>First 3D platformer.
Wrong.
>Started the metroidvania genre.
Wrong again.
>Earthbound
Spotted the Motherfag.
You probably should've brought up maybe the creation of the d-pad, the analog stick, the touch screen, and cross/backwards compatibility.
>>339836561
I already did.
>>339836537
>Anon provides proof with source
>Refuses to check it because he's assblasted
You are the most ridiculous troll I've ever seen on /v/
>>339823720
It's 2016. Konami is fucking dead, you idiot.
>>339833552
>European gaming
Litterally only Commadore/Sinclair/Acorn/MSX(Pick two depending on what country you are from) computers.
>>339836628
You don't need to go that far.
Want something that fucked the minds out of everyone?
Handheld gaming, and it started with the game and watch series, not the gameboy. If they had incorporated a phone on their system first imagine how the mobile market would be today.
>>339836628
The Atari 7800 pad used a form of analogue stick. It's not really an innovation when it's just a downgraded arcade stick. The Sega Saturn 3D pad ball analogue stick design stuck in the end, too.
>>339825214
how can the winners be salty?
>This thread
>>339836759
>American gaming
Literally only Atari until 1983 then NES.
>>339836692
He can copy and paste, but I won't go to those stupid fucking websites. I refuse to use shit like IGN.
>>339836849
Even if it's not entirely innovative, they solidified the concept to make it more appealing to the masses.
Just like how SMB look Platforming from stuf like Pitfall and made it better.
>>339837015
Thank god Nintendo came along and fixed that shit.
>>339837015
>He can copy and paste
Too much info to be copy pasted.
Don't click IGN, click the others and learn to read for once.
>>339836641
Point where please. Or copy paste it again.
I want specific information, not random rambling about how nintendo and americans raped you and left you with trauma.
>>339836826
No, you idiot, handheld games existed long before the Game and Watch games. Are you retarded? Even Coleco was making them. The Game and Watch was what 79? They were making those in America in at least 73.
>>339837075
You think pitfall was the only notable platformer before SMB? Platformers were one of the most popular arcade genres. Pitfall is way older. Arcade platformers also looked and played better than SMB.
>Wanting characters from a Pachinko company
Yeah no
>>339837215
That really just shows that you have nothing. As I would expect from clickbait sites.
>>339837602
>simplicity, accessibility to children
>Not arcade
Nigga you delusional as fuck.
>>339837748
Name some arcade games you've played. Go ahead.
>>339836628
nintendo have a lot of great inventions in their historical catalogue
- lock-on targeting
- battery-backed save games
- sidescrolling platformers
- action\adventure games
- rumble
just to name a few
i would also argue that earthbound was very innovative, just not very influential (at its time), and that nintendo didn't invent analog sticks, touchscreens or backward-compatible game consoles
>>339837839
>- lock-on targeting
Arcade shooters had this long before Nintendo
>- battery-backed save games
I guess
>- sidescrolling platformers
Fuck no, are you retarded?
>- action\adventure games
What the fuck? You are retarded
>- rumble
Not at all. Rumble was common place long before Nintendo.
>>339837602
>Nintendo
>Lack of innovation
KEK
>old engines and designs
What is a franchise? Implying you didn't have more than one puzzle bobble on your arcade...
>Simplicity
You do know some old games are now some of the harder games out there. If you want to blame someone, blame EA, Activision and Ubisoft for shitting on what gameplay is.
>Accessibility to children
If it wasn't for this we would have no games today.
>Antithesis of the arcade system
OH! So that's what happened. You had an arcade home close to your house and it closed because it was having less people. Since you couldn't afford a console you cried out in rage to nintendo.
I understand now!
>>339837839
>i would also argue that earthbound was very innovative
In what way?
>>339838252
>Arcade shooters had this long before Nintendo
Name them
>>339837797
Pac-man
Pong
Asteroids
Puzzle Bobble
Galaga
Donkey Kong
Q-bert
Space Invaders
>>339838313
>KEK
What did they innovate?
>What is a franchise? Implying you didn't have more than one puzzle bobble on your arcade...
Actually most arcade game sequels used different engines. Bubble Bobble and Puzzle Bobble, Ghosts n Goblins and Ghouls n Ghosts, Monster World 1 and 2. I could go on.
>You do know some old games are now some of the harder games out there. If you want to blame someone, blame EA, Activision and Ubisoft for shitting on what gameplay is.
Nintendo really started it with their easy games.
>If it wasn't for this we would have no games today.
Why? Games thrived when they were aimed towards people with motor skills.
>>339823972
Alucard is the face of the system that murdered the N64. But yes, Alucard is much cooler than Simon.
>>339823720
/v/
>>339837797
Ghost Squad, Crazy Taxi, Daytona, VirtuaCop, 1942/43, Mario Brothers, A Zombie shooter that started in a graveyard that I don't remember the name of.
>>339837839
>lock-on targeting
You mean Z-targeting on OoT. It was innovative in 3D because of the way it worked and made you walk around the selected target.
It's not lock on targeting, it's the way it was implemented. You said it wrong but that doesn't stop it from being innovative.
>>339838596
>What did they innovate?
Read the fucking thread, we're tired of telling you but you're too delusional to see or read right.
>>339838596
>Actually most arcade game sequels used different engines.
So did nintendo with each new console or game, if it demanded it.
>Nintendo really started it with their easy games.
Yes and then people kept complaining they were too hard. That's not nintendo's fault.
>Games thrived when they were aimed towards people with motor skills.
Is that why people complained about motor skills when the Wii came out? Arcades were fine but you should get out of that tight bubble of yours and look around what actually happened throughout the years. Nintendo is almost the only console company now appealing to people with motor skills, yet people complain about it.
It's not Nintendo you fucktard, look at third parties, look at other gaming companies. Jesus fucking christ, you have your bias stabbed straight up from your ass to your head, no wonder you can only say shit.
>>339838517
After Burner, Space Harrier. On console Panzer Dragoon.
>Pac-man
Everyone has played that.
>Pong
>Asteroids
Why do you only play really old shit?
>Puzzle Bobble
Decent game, but everyone's played it
>Galaga
Average game, very boring.
>Donkey Kong
Shit game. No wonder it failed.
>Q-bert
Shit
>Space Invaders
Everyone's played it
So you clearly don't know anything about arcade games. Good to know. Go play Operation Wolf. Actually just play everything from the holy trinity of arcade games, Sega, Namco, and Taito. also Robotron 2084.
>>339827821
Straya-kun, pls. Stop forcing your Castlevania Bros. may-may. You forgot ReBirth, too.
>>339839149
>Stop liking what I don't like
>You didn't play the game I played so you're shit
You're laughable. But it's starting to turn into pity at this point.
>>339825104
>typing with two hands
