Doom 3's shotgun is objectively the most unsatisfying gun in video games
Due to its aggressive spread it''s basically a melee weapon
>>339798560
>>339798648
Just like real life then?
>>339798890
I don't know whether you're trolling me or if you're actually retarded.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and think that you're trolling me. 7/10 got me annoyed.
>>339798890
Shotguns IRL can kill reliably up to 100-120m-iish. Even more if you use slugs instead of shot
>>339798560
its not even the worst shotgun from id, quakes shotguns are the worst
>>339798560
That's not half life 2's smg
>>339798560
I rather liked it desu, it hits like a truck.
>>339798560
Dat plasma tho.
at least you could run up to imps and blast them while they were still doing the teleport in animation
I remember metro 2033's shotgun was pretty bad
>>339798560
It was so satisfying coming across one of those little bots.
>tfw you find out they can die when one got caught on the environment and got raped by some imps
It was a full minute of two imps constantly pounding on it.
>>339799096
all half life 2 guns were shit
>>339798768
how did id go from making solid 8/10 doom to making fucking quake?
>>339798890
>I have never used a firearm
That's a shame.
>Game has a revolver
>It's shit
I liked how when you headshot an enemy their brain floats in the air for a second.
there are tons of worse shotguns you dummy. Quake 1's, Fear 2, SS2... whole bunch of them. Doom 3's looks like an alien's penis and doesn't have enough range, but it's pretty serviceable and the sounds are alright
>>339799236
Wrong retard, revolver was amazing
>>339799236
this
>>339799242
>doesn't have murderous inclinations
>a shame
>>339799236
>>339799237
>Doom
>Solid 8/10
This thread is like a b8 extravaganza
>>339798768
god i fucking hate quake II and i especially hate this weapon
>>339799020
>kill reliably up to 100-120m-iish. Even more if you use slugs instead of shot
>>339799236
>revolver
>crossbow
>shotgun
>combine rifle
Apply yourself.
>>339799358
Aussie detected.
>>339799236
The shotgun and the revolver were good, and the gravity gun and crossbow were fun
Everything else is shit
>>339798890
>being this uninformed about firearms
>Yuropoor detected
>>339799451
It's true. If your enemies are using kevlar you're fucked though
The RO2 expansion, Rising Storm, has a pretty realistic shotgun with credible kill ranges in it. You're only shooting people wearing cloth uniforms, though
>>339799482
Combine rifle was donkey dongs
>>339798560
Actually, I think that "honor" goes to the Tommygun from Serious Sam.
>>339799126
The reload sound alone is great
>>339799482
The shotgun was not good, anon
The Klobb is worse
>>339799267
>sci fi game
>large variety of energy weapons
>always just go with the generic military assault rifle that shoots bullets
>>339799020
you might be mixing that up with a shotguns effective range for target shooting. A Benelli M4 has an effective ranger of about 50m
>>339799236
The man speaks the truth
>>339799595
It was accurate and had a room clearing secondary.
>>339799656
What was wrong with it?
>>339799332
Quake 1's damage output against monsters is hilariously low compared to other games. Probably because having too many enemies would stress computers of the time though.
>>339798560
thanks for explaining OP i was under the impression it was pretty cool but i guess my opinion was wrong
this piece of shit right here
>>339798768
Quake II was a mistake.
>>339799630
>shredding a whole swarm of frogs in seconds
>not satisfying
big lel, the tommy gun is objectively the best weapon until you get the minigun
>>339799395
Yeah by todays standards its more like 3/10 maybe 4
>>339799096
The sound of that gun fucking pierces right through my head, I hate using it for that reason alone.
you have 2 shotguns on D44M?
>>339799859
I love the firecracker sound tho
>>339799859
It always bothered me that the Combine cops would use such a nonstandard, gaudy-looking USP
I get it that they wanted it to match their black uniform and white mask but Jesus, what an ugly gun
>>339799859
superior one coming through
>>339799719
>muzzle flash is blue and ammo is called something like "pulse rounds" in an effort to make it seem less generic
>>339799236
this is true. the guns felt great in Half-Life 1
>>339799859
yeah this was really bad. half life guns are generally retarded, like it didn't help at all that the PDW submachinegun shot grenades out of its completely invisible grenade launcher or a SPAS-12 could fire two shotgun shells at once, but this fucking weak gay dumb gun that is supposed to be the equivalent of a ricer souped up USP was just sad bullshit.
>>339799080
Ironically, Quake 4 probably has the best feeling shotgun out of all the Quake games, and of course it beats DOOM 3's but that doesn't say much.
>>339800037
lmao right on the head
>>339798560
i really liked doom3 and found it sad that the developers reworked the game to add in a constant light source.
Who were the pansies that complained it was too dark i mean really? /v/ complains about casuals but this is one of the only cases i can think of where developers changed their single player game after release to cater to the casuals and made it worse.
>>339799954
It might have been technically effective, but it didn't feel satisfying at all. It didn't have a satisfying sound or muzzle flash and it didn't feel like it had any weight to it.
>>339798560
Damn I miss Doom 3's cold, steely environments
>>339798560
I honestly cant stand the standard shotgun you get in nu-doom, it sounds good and all but it feels like shit
>>339799859
I found it useful for popping explosive barrels without expending ammo for other guns. HL2 was stingy in regards to carrying ammo for every other weapon, probably just to encourage use of the Gravity Gun.
>>339798560
nope, Doom 2 SSG is best gun.
>>339798560
>ugly as sin
>FOUR barrels
>capable of firing all four at once
>shit damage
This piece of shit takes the cake.
>>339800336
SW 2013 in general has the most unsatisfying weaponry ever. Ugh, the MP7 makes me cringe just thinking about how boring it is
What does /v/ think of the shotguns featured in Timesplitters?
>>339798560
>worst Doom
>best anything
>>339800336
i have never played that game but that gun is in enter the gungeon and it is _terrible_ , its in the highest rarity tier and it is the worst shotgun in the game
>>339799859
>>339800054
>pistol rapidly becomes obsolete
>SMG is the work horse gun and it feels like weak, spammy garbage
A lot of the guns feel like garbage in HL2 and the decent feeling ones have really limited ammo.
>>339798768
Why are the textures diagonal on the gun? For what purpose?
>>339800483
>>339800303
Idiots
>>339800303
>>339800483
>Best
He said Doom 3's shotty was objectively unsatisfying you twerps
>>339798560
I hate when shotguns in video games have all the range of a fart in the wind
Official shit tier shotgun list
1. Goldeneye: Rogue Agent's double barrels
2. NuDoom's pump action
3. Metro 2033's shotguns outside the LMG version
>>339800069
most of the guns in quake 4 were fantastic. that nailgun and plasma gun
>>339800737
>Worse than Doom 3's shotgun
>>339800213
The starting pistol and combat shotgun both do feel like ass. Everything else is solid but those two kinds become obsolete.
>>339800245
The SMG does that though, and you can probably find more ammo for the SMG anyways.
>>339800336
>game gives you an excellent melee weapon for close ranged combat
>shotgun still has 0 range.
>>339800737
>hatin on Uboinik
Cyka blyat, I'll cheeky breeki you!
>>339799180
>>339800737
This, you spend more time reloading than shooting with the shotguns in Metro
>>339799482
>>shotgun
these meme needs to end
>>339799595
so's the half life series as a whole
>>339799236
Shotgun crossbow revolver gravity gun
Everything else was shit tho
>>339800737
i don't count the d4 shotgun as a shotty, it's a grenade launcher that happens to have a shotgun with it
also any previous generation shotgun past 10 feet
>>339800859
>>339800861
Uboinik sucks, the only good shotgun in Metro is Saiga unless you want to chew through all your ammo with LMG shotgun.
Too bad it isn't in 2033
>>339800861
The quad barreled pipe gun was pretty fun.
>>339799859
I don't get why everyone hates this gun. I found it fun to shoot metro cops with, and by the time stronger enemies came you had other weapons anyway. It served its purpose for the levels it was designed for. If anything, the Glock in the first game was worse. No semi-auto pistol deserves such a garbage fire rate (and the alt-fire was just useless).
>>339799859
Paf paf paf paf paf.
>>339801086
Powpowpow
>>339799704
THE MOTHERFUCKING KLOBB
>>339801078
I don't even remember it being in any levels, only the developer one. It was in one of the DLCs, right?
>>339798560
the F.E.A.R. 2 shotgun takes the cake for this, especially after how awesome it was in the first game
>>339800823
>indicator for reloading
Dear game devs. Stop this.
>>339800594
>>339800609
yeah sorry my mistake, ssg is still fantastic though.
>>339801086
I found that pistol more useful than the HL2 version. It was fine for killing smaller enemies like hound eyes and headcrabs, using it to save ammo over the spammy MP5 was pretty standard. Once you get the better guns in HL2 there's 0 reason to use that starting pistol. It's just so ass.
>>339798560
Good thing the expansion packs double barrel was the fucking shit.
Still my favorite vidya shotgun.
My favorite way to play doom 3 is load up the expansion, then go to the originals campaign levels and play through it with the double barrel + more shotgun ammo.
>>339801429
It's in last light, pretty sure it's not in the first game.
>>339802349
I'm talking about LL, 2033 didn't have any DLC
>>339802423
There's a part where you have to wait for a boat to reach you and you get mobbed by those mole monsters, I remember finding one there.
Also the pistol shotguns were neat.
>>339800405
>SW 2013 in general has the most unsatisfying weaponry ever.
the guns were shit but the melee and magic was fun
if they hadn't had any guns and just fleshed out those two more i would've enjoyed it a lot more
>>339799237
The original Quack is fucking great you pizza shit.
>>339799859
I found making metro cops ragdoll with it very satisfying back when.
>>339798560
No, that would be the shotgun from Fear 2.
>>339803198
she's so thick it makes her feet look like a doll's.
>>339803198
>All those shards flying around
>Feet unprotected
>>339799482
The only good gun in hl2 was the revolver. That was it.
Hl2 is so over-rated I don't give a fuck about some nostalgia fag who still creams themselves about how good the source engine was in 2004
I really hated the Half Life 2 weapons (haven't played any other HL game). Everything was just useless aside from my Crowbar
I got bored of doom 3 after a few hours. Imps, imps, boobytrap room full of imps, more imps.
Should I give it another try?
>>339799859
PAP PAP PAP MOTHERFUCKER
>>339801086
HL1 glock is fucking great. Shares an ammo pool with the assault rifle which is "empty a full magazine from 5 yards while taking at least 50 damage" levels of ass. Meanwhile, it is basically perfectly accurate. You'll land more shots faster while expending less ammo and can weave in cover while doing it.
>>339799126
>pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew
>k-tshunk
>bweeeeEEEEM!
>playing through Doom having only played the freeware episode
>the rest of the game is godlike
>excitedly fire up Doom 2
>it's fucking garbage all the way through
What the FUCK happened?
Where did the level design go??
>>339804194
Go in without doom tier expectations, As a very mild horror fps its kinda good, Its just an awful DOOM game.
>>339798560
That shotgun revolver in Call of duty is worse
>>339805281
I didnt even have expectations. I still havent gotten around to playing the originals though I've been meaning to.
>>339798890
I assume you've never fired a real shotgun before, let alone one made specifically for combat. Way to know nothing.
The spread of a shotgun is, at max, maybe 1 foot across at maximum effective distance (which is pretty fucking far).
>>339798560
Someone call Caleb from Blood and tell him OP is loose again. Tell him to bring his dual "boomsticks".
>>339798560
I think Megaman's gun wins out, it's so shit it's not even in the console version of the game, only Tiger portable systems stayed true to it.
>>339799482
She has nice guns
You faggots don't know bad shotguns til you use the worthless shotgun in Shadow Warrior.
So fucking disappointed with that piece of trash.
I was so amped to try out the shotty for such a badass game, but no, it's so unbelievably bad that I had to turn the game off for a bit and just do something else.
Shockingly terrible shotgun. Up until I played Shadow Warrior last year, the worst shotgun I had ever used in a game was HL2's shotgun, because it has THE worst sounding, most unsatisfying shotgun sound effects I've ever heard in a video game but at least it didn't suck total ass damage wise.
But the one is Shadow Warrior is just the worst thing, seriously.
>>339798560
FEAR, on the other hand, has one of the most satisfying shotguns in gaming history
>come round a corner
>see Clone commando
>fire
>turns into red mist
>>339805375
If you don't mind the hunt, there's a few mods out there that address some common complaints. I don't mean the flashlight/darkness stuff, shit like removing monster "waking" animations and upping their aggression. Had one that increased monster counts in levels, both spawning and preplaced.
But Doom 3 mods not on Filefront are hard to track down anymore.
>>339799482
Salma has some nice cans
>>339805545
>American box "art"
>>339805764
Even unloading all four barrels at once rarely staggered enemies (beyond the basic grunts and the birdmen anyhow) let alone kill them. There really aren't accurate enough words to properly describe how pathetic that shotgun was.
>>339799630
Assault rifle from 3 was worse
>>339805881
Motherfucker, you better not be saying the Needler is a bad weapon.
>>339800336
This.
Holy fuck that shotgun was lame
>>339806691
>murders basically anyone
>takes up one slot
I mean yeah its nice to use basically anything else but it wasn't disappointing. It was just kind of there. It's nice if you know something big is coming up that you just have to kill.
>You can change from slugs to buckshot
>>339800581
Why do you think brothers hold it 45 degrees?
>>339800069
>Ironically, Quake 4 probably has the best feeling shotgun out of all the Quake games
Shit, you're right. I miss Raven.
>>339807289
>tfw there'll never be another heretic or hexen and they've been reduced to a meme that works on cod games every now and then
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/eJ7MACf.png "latest[1].png")
>the most unsatisfying gun in video games
You rang?
>>339807391
In CE I usually did carry it on the Flood levels because it's probably the best gun for popping spores and it even can deal with combat forms relatively well.
Of course, you don't meet Flood until midgame and against Covenant the gun is absolute shit, at least on Legendary.
>>339799404
>>339799917
I'd rather play Quake II than a modern CoD clone.
>>339807681
I'd probably enjoy either of those games.
>>339798560
I can think of a more unsatisfying shotgun in recent gaming. It's real annoying to land on it when cycling trough weapons during a frantic fight, especially on the higher difficulties since enemies sponge that much more, and bullet sponge ruins the feeling you're after in a satisfying shotgun in video games.
>>339798768
you could make that jump and skip almost whole level
>>339799404
>>339799917
Quake 2's singleplayer is one of the best, only matched by doom and quake 1
>>339807838
>stupid and slow enemies
![hexen_centaur_wip2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ySgYzSW.jpg "hexen_centaur_wip2[1].jpg")
>>339807364
>never be a new Hexertic game on id Tech 6
>never going to utilizing the engine to create sprawling but intricate levels oozing with over the top gothic architecture
>never have weighty first person combat with the forces of the serpent riders
Yes Korax, I am ready to die.
>>339798560
>that screenshot
>id tech engine barely moved forward with any significant progress in 12 years
Seriously doom 3 was a fucking marvel with that engine. They've been living on its coat tails ever since. Tech 5 and 6 are an embarrassing blunder, no way should they have been brand new revisions.
>>339807391
Fuckin' a. Between this, the plasma rifle, and brute spiker, it was hard to find a more useless weapon. Especially when shit like the BR, sniper rifle, shotgun, and magnum existed.
>>339798768
Why the fuck was it called quake 2 . literally an entirely different game other than the genre. In terms of setting it could barely be more different. It was the pin point moment of id obviously reaching their peak and starting the slide.
>>339807912
Are we looking on the same screenshot? It doesn't look very good. The art style is nice, but technically it's nothing special.
ka fuckin blam
>>339807992
Yeah, it genuinely had nothing to do with Quake and was supposed to a separate IP. However, they called it Quake II for brand recognition purposes. John Romero also left over the sci-fi direction they were taking with it. The reason why Quake I is so cosy and atmospheric is because of Romero's art direction.
>>339807898
Just the thought of Heretic or Hexen in id tech 6 makes me so excited, but then I realize that it will never happen. I guess the closest thing we can hope for is Quake V going back to the original Quake Lovecraftian style
It's probably Unreal weapons. That game was really good, and designers created awesome guns, like Flak Cannon or ASMD (which have become staple of Unreal Tournament), there are other weapons. Crystal Stinger has annoying sound and low damage on both firing modes. Dispersion Pistol (even upgraded) was really shit, no wonder it doesn't appear in UT and subsequent games.
>>339808339
I feel like Unreal and Unreal 2 are really underrated as SP FPSes
>>339808339
>Dispersion Pistol (even upgraded) was really shit, no wonder it doesn't appear in UT and subsequent games.
But it appears in Unreal 2!
>>339801086
I don't really get the hate either. Sure it eventually becomes obsolete but it's great for accurate headshots on combine and zombies without wasting bullets from the smg that spray fucking everywhere.
>>339798560
I'm playing Serious Sam TSE right now and the shotgun sounds are shit, even if the gun itself works well.
>>339807992
So they can make it all a single universe in quake 3.
Quake V will have you be a strogg defending your home from the forces of Tulzscha.
When I was teenager I wanted to stick my dick in it
>>339808138
>all those shitty decals
>not a single appealing skin in the game
>not even camo skins
>remember reach
They need to hang the design team at 343i.
I love HL2, but fuck if the MP7 isn't the dullest gun ever.
>>339808616
doesnt make the shotgun any less satisfying to use
>>339803676
Came here to post this. All the weapons in that game felt underpowered and useless, but the shotguns were the worst offenders, particularly after the god-tier shotgun in FEAR 1
>>339808193
Quake 1 is cozy to you?
>>339807391
We're talking about outside of the first game right?
Halo 2 shotgun
Halo 2 pistol
Halo 2 smg
it's hard to think of a satisfying weapon from that game desu
>they seriously got rid of the meaty assault rifle from the first game
I think all the shadow warrior posts are why i couldn't even finish that game. None of the weapons were good except the sword.
>>339808592
As an adult, I want to stick my dick in it
>>339809662
battle rifle and the beam rifle made up for it IMO
>>339809662
>the meaty assault rifle from the first game
Have you played CE on Legendary? It's shit against Covenant.
>>339800823
>>339810137
so? its satisfying to use, which is the point of the thread.
>>339810137
but the sound was the best, fuck that click-klackity shit all the sequels used
>>339810302
How is it satisfying to use when it doesn't fucking hurt anything?
>>339810354
i mean you are also way over exaggerating. anything unshielded gets ripped by it. but if i want to min max like a faggot i'd just use the overpowered pistol for everything.
>>339810251
> there will never be another game like fear again
hurts
>>339810251
I tried playing some FEAR 2 a few days ago. The thing made me quit early was when I used the grenades.
They barely fucking explode, the sound and size they had in 1 is completely gone and they dont affect the enviroment nearly as much as they used to.
>>339806223
Wily looks like he's going through some deep philosophical thoughts there
>>339798560
It is pretty bad, but so is any shotgun in a post 2002 non-Serious FPS. Shotguns went from great weapons to shit ones real fast.
>>339810354
>inb4 the kid sounds like a fag
Just watch the first 2 minutes and stop being a gay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSnWZcPM2zE
>>339798560
the new DooM pistol is pretty dinky
>>339798560
team fortress 2
>>339810726
>any shotgun in a post 2002 non-Serious FPS
Crysis, Quake 4.
>>339806691
in the shifter mod this thing was awesome. Great accuracy, killed everything and just rocked
>>339801862
this and hit markers.
Fucking awful.
Press e to use!
>>339805435
I like how we're so eager to prove shotguns to still be effective combat weapons to justify giving them further range in games that we start making up some incredible bullshit.
Pic related is 00 buck at 40 yards. It fucking sucks. You can expect almost all loads of 00 buck to have a sub 100 yard effective range. You have to remember that each individual pellet, which there is about 8-10 in a load, dumps less energy than 9mm, and is about as powerful as a .380. Comparatively a rifle can effectively engage someone at hundreds if not more than a thousand yards
>>339811926
And a .380 takes down a person fine. Also, why would you shoot any shotgun with any guage/shot over 100 yards?
>>339804998
>grew up only with doom 2 shareware edition
Feels bad mang.
I still need to go through ultimate doom for the first time. Only beat the first 2 episodes.
>>339798560
The shotgun in Halo 2 was much worse. Especially after how incredibly powerful the shotgun in Halo 1 was.
>>339812310
They're not effective combat weapons in general. And no .380 does not take down a person fine. In fact pistol rounds in general does not take down a person fine. I'm phone posting right now but you can view lectures on YouTube by doctors explaining how absolutely garbage pistol rounds are at stopping a man effectively. Consider that a single round of 5.56 dumps almost as much energy on target as all 8 pellets of 00 buck would
>>339807898
but there may be a quake 5 arena on idtech6 engine
Hoping E3 or quakecon has an announcement
The pistol in DOOM 4 is shit.
>>339798560
Doom 3's weapons lack kick. The pistol sounds like chewing on a hard piece of candy and the shotguns sound like kicking tin cans.
>>339799551
Don't put him in the same bunch as other yuroo's. We know this shit, he is just retarded
The shotgun in Mercenaries for the PS2 was worse since it had no sound effect when shooting due to a glitch
>>339807898
>no giant horse dick
who's the artist too insecure to draw it?
>>339812991
>horse dick
there's nothing equine about that centaur design
In fact, it reminds me of Fallout centaurs, only less fucked up. Yes, I know Hexen predates Fallouts.
>>339813165
you don't understand, everything needs a horse dick.
You people are cripplingly retarded sheep. Satisfying firearm audio was one of the things Doom 3 prioritized during development.
The pistol feels unsatisfying because it's supposed to in order to emphasize other weapons.
The shotgun and assault rifle are decently sharp, then the chaingun, plasma gun, etc. are the most punchy and material firing and reloading sound effects in games, pretty much without question.
There are tiers and the game gets and stays satisfying as it progresses. I will never understand the "lmao doom 3 was so shit" meme, it's actually a wonderful and thoughtful game, I'm sorry it's not "your SO AWESOME LOL GORE" doom
>>339813769
It had the best depiction of Hell in the series, but the worst techbase levels.
>>339813819
I actually disagree completely.
>>339813819
I really enjoy them. Playing blindly, it goes from a very effective atmosphere and slower pace, to a fast paced action game over time once the atmosphere wears off. Doom 3 becomes very intense and the buildup is intentional, it starts as something like a more overtly scary system shock 2, then builds up to hardcore action Doom.
I think a lot of people play Doom 3 expecting "awesome action" right off the bat, and ultimately don't pay attention to what the game actually is
>>339813869
Don't reply to me or my posts ever again.
Nah but really, Doom 3's interior levels reminded me of FEAR's midgame- endless office complexes with the same palette. I really like the platforms-in-a-void theme for D3 Hell, and the way walls would open up to reveal enemies made me paranoid of my surroundings
>>339814018
Except Doom 3 levels are colorful and have different cool pesudo-sciency thingies inside of them, like collapsing bridges, huge energy beams, Alpha reactor, monorail, toxic waste levels. They also show Hell overtaking the base pretty well. Hell in D3 is pretty standard, I expected more flesh and got just lots of dilapidated masonry and some floating platforms.
>>339803935
RCP-90 was the shit.
>>339799859
I remember having the time of my life using this in HL2 Deathmatch. I got amazing scores
>>339807391
It was actually decent in Halo 3 and 4 if you abused bleed-through.
>spray a guy with AR while closing in on him
>melee
>he ded
>>339810817
That's actually a really nice video. I can't say it made me the fan of AR but I guess it could have its uses.
THIS is the most satisfying shotgun in vydia
>>339799358
t. yuroslave
>>339798560
Fuck you all I liked Doom 3.
Most demonic video game I've ever played as well.
>>339807992
Quake 2 was called quake 2 because they couldn't think of a good name.
>>339816601
It was better in KF.
>>339816853
The start just drags so fucking much it's hard to get into. Takes like 30 minutes+ before you even get to shoot some demuns.
>tfw you're the only person who liked Quake II and Doom 3
>>339816601
meh
game is average at best, but Rage shotgun with explosive ammo is just something else.
>>339817016
RoE got you senpai
![tx26wxar2370wibb2mkm[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DuC0d6V.jpg "tx26wxar2370wibb2mkm[1].jpg")
>>339799267
>game has a pistol
>it's the best weapon in the game
>that twirling animation when you headshot someone
>>339798560
kek em
>>339817293
>play CE for the first time
>"Surely it can't be THAT good"
>kill banshee in 3 shots
>holy fucking shit
>>339812527
IDTech6 is limited to 60 FPS right? I don't think that would go over very well for the hardcore fans.
>>339799917
Action Quake 2 begs to differ.
>>339817703
You're thinking of 5.
>>339817293
Shame the handguns were dogshit after this until ODST. I don't care that Halo 2 and 3 would've made the magnum unbalanced. Their equivalents are shit.
>>339807391
At least it sounded great in CE, in 3 and 4 the AR sounds super weak.
>>339811874
its klobberin time
>>339816601
>watching in slowmo after it fires as the shot flys out like a wall, tearing everything apart in its path, one stray shot go through the head of the closest zed causing its skull to explode
Its like a fine wine
![02-635x617[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/9yLrnhL.png "02-635x617[1].png")
>>339817701
I played some CE online recently and the first thing EVERYONE does when spawning is switch to the pistol, the AR is just completely impotent. Most people don't even bother with the power weapons because they just get one shot by the pistol anyway.
>>339817703
It can run at any framerate, it's just locked to 60 in the console versions of D44M and cutscenes. It would be embarrassing for a studio with the kind of pedigree id has to make an engine that can't run above 60 desu.
>>339817895
>and 4
It's been a while but didn't the AR sound good in 4?
>>339799591
>The RO2 expansion, Rising Storm, has a pretty realistic shotgun with credible kill ranges in it.
Exactly. Also wanted to mention it, RS is one of the rare games doing shotguns right.
>>339817935
Btw the pic is from google and apparently it's from the beta. I have no idea what "Graphics API: High" is supposed to mean.
>>339800069
Quake 4 has great weapons all around IMO.
Q4 was a great game, and the multiplayer was actually faster and more complex than the QuakeLive we have now - it had crouch sliding, ramp jumping, and projectile accurate teleporters all out of the box, all with the same basic damage and weapon formulas from the previous game. The only big problem is that it was pretty much shit on first release, and it took a few patches to become great.
The Quake fanbase is honestly one of the worst. They spend so much time whining about the death of the series, when they have been so openly hostile to any positive changes, and openly hostile to new players. I just shake my head now when I see people asking for a Quake5, since none of those fucks will actually play it even if it comes out - it will be different from the Q3A/CPMA/QL that they are used to in some insignificant way and they will whine.
>>339798560
Its sound is satisfying as fuck though, in fact all of the guns sound amazing in that game. Also with sikkmod and using doom "classic" movement speed its pretty fun to sprint in and blast demons in the face with then duck out. Its incredibly powerful at point blank it just has a retarded amount of spread.
>>339808392
yeah I really loved the time I spent playing Unreal 2. Pity it was dwarfed by the time I spent loading Unreal 2.
>>339810679
I don't know why grenades are always so lackluster - I basically never use them as a result, especially considering most games only let you carry a very limited amount at a time.
If grenades were fucking massive detonations and over the top with decent physics they would be fun as hell.
>>339818378
I remember Unreal 2 being pretty shit though
>>339808392
Unreal 1 is GOAT, it's as if Quake and Super Metroid had a baby.
>>339816601
The basic shotgun from the first game is much better.
>>339817982
I think I was getting their sound effects and damage outputs mixed up or something, that being said 4's BR sounded like a fucking typewriter.
Doom 3 just wasn't real game imo... when it came, I really wanted it to be continuation for doom 1 and doom 2, and I really enjoyed those games too when it was released, because I was heavily involved in modding wolfenstein 3d (if for my own pleasure, learning the stuff). Damn disappointing game did it turn out to be. I thought the menu music was awesome, and got all hyped from that, but the actual game..... WTF?!?!?!
>>339818396
Probably because they are indirect fire weapon that you pretty much always have access to after you get them. I use them in most games, good for checking corners for hostiles, throwing one down before reloading etc.
>that feel when unreal 2 and quake 2 had better atmosphere and more interesting campaign than doom 3 did
id just can't make games anymore
>>339808431
Lepew
>>339819041
>quake 2
No it didn't.
>>339819184
It had some real good weapons imo, because you have the assault rifle and the chain gun, it seemed very appealing, and the fact it had 2 shotguns as well (both which were very interesting, but I liked the normal shotty design more). It had a very doom-feel to it, like from doom 1-2, maybe less enemies but everything about that game's singleplayer just was awesome.
>>339819381
Weapons are easily the best part of Q2, yes, the chaingun is like the best thing ever. They kind of dropped the ball on enemy design a bit so the game ends up pretty boring. I still enjoy it sometimes, it's kinda relaxing.
>>339800581
it's complicated. for better display of shadowing/lighting effects? better ask carmack.
>>339799267
>game has double action revolver
>animations are single action
Fuck you todd
>>339809248
kek
If we want to get deeper into this, I think the somewhat cheesy q4 story was actually somewhat good and interesting, maybe even better than Doom 3's, even if the game was overall pretty bad?
>>339799267
>game has a revolver
>it works like a normal pistol
If I wanted real life I'd kill hookers
>>339799859I liked it
>>339819667
Well, that's the point of DA, you can use it as SA too.
I would argue that all of Half-Life's weapons, save the crossbow and gauss gun, are more disappointing than Doom 3's shotgun. I would also argue that Doom 4's vanilla shotgun ranks up there on the disappointment scale.
>>339819906
too bad the animation is slow as fuck and the previous game had the same revolver using double action instead
>>339820037
Revolver, gluon, RPG.
>>339800737
Hard Reset and Shadow Warrior.
>>339798560
Blood and FEAR shotguns are better
>>339820097
That game was cool imo
