What are you going to do when no new PC game works on Windows 7 and requires you to upgrade to 10?
>>339778295
Give up on video games.
All new games are shit.
debotnet windows 10 and close all connections to minecrosoft and microsoft related ips
>>339778295
pretty much drop modern videogames, and go retro
and take up pinball
Get a pirated copy of Windows 10
>>339778295
Install Linux and virtualize Windows 10
Buy a really big HDD
Create three partitions:
A linux one for all the computer stuff
A Windows 7 one for certain games
A Windows 10 one for the rest.
>>339778480
I'm thinking about buying a router (like, a legit Cisco router) from my workplace's flea sales and use it as a firewall for all the Windows 10 fuckery.
what the fuck
just get windows 10
i thought everytrhing was watching you already. skype, online transactions, email accounts, phone convos, the NSA already has access to it all, what is Win10 doing that every one loses their shit over it?
>>339778295
I'll go full retro and start emulating till boredom and after that I'll try linux
>>339778605
Virtually ever modern router can block sites/IPs.
>>339778295
Kill self
>>339778295
>not multibooting
and all you steamers call yourselves PC master race
>>339778295
There will be a different Windows OS by then, and it wont have all the shit people hate about W10.
W10 was a failure for Microsoft, they'll switch back to the normal buy the new OS system in a few years again.
That or ill just use a different OS
What is even so bad about windows 10. I have it and I've never had any issues
>>339778636
None of that shit actually fucking slows down my internet connection or killer performance as much as W10 does, thats fucking what.
1.Linux
2.Dualboot
3.Stop playing Vidya
Why not just use a virtual PC?
>>339778636
Actively forcing itself on users
1. I already upgraded
2. http://pastebin.com/xjkTUchF
>>339778790
As far as I can tell:
>the spying shit
>ads on start menu that can be removed
>File Explorer STILL does not have tabs so I still need to use a third party file manager
>>339778636
Takes and makes a recorded of all the images on your hard-drive and sends it to Microsoft to check for illegal things and sell to advertisment companies.
It's basically what modern day printers do, but now in direct connection to everything you do.
>>339778763
>There will be a different Windows OS by then, and it wont have all the shit people hate about W10.
>>339778295
Nothing because I'm not some meme faggot with Winblows 7
Just stop playing games.
I'm already almost at that point.
Push me Microsoft I fucking dare you.
>>339778567
This
>>339778583
Does gaming through virtualbox even work well?
>>339778963
W10 adoption rate was horrendous, even for a hated OS.
Fact is the majority of Microsofts business is businesses and they dont give a fuck about upgrading, they can run off older OS forever if they have to. W10 failed to grab that market.
They'll have to switch back to normal releases and make a better OS system if they want to recapture that market.
>>339778295
There has not been a single game in the last 15 years I have had even a passing interest in. So far I've just been playing older games and enjoying myself.
>>339778605
>operating system on an HDD
>>339779191
There's no advantage to normal releases. Sticking to Win10 and just upgrading it forever makes things easier for them.
>>339778295
Move to Linux and play decades of old games.
I wonder if there are any people still using XP
>W10 is one of the few OS ever that has had regression soon after release
Microsoft will drop W10 like a bag of bricks anyway
Already had to so I could play Killer Instinct.
What exactly is so bad about it again?
>>339779473
Boco coming in with his shit taste and shit opinions again
>>339779191
>W10 adoption rate was horrendous
No it really wasn't
>They'll have to switch back to normal releases and make a better OS system if they want to recapture that market
They wont "have" to do shit for you. Intel, OEMs and others will force feed it and cut windows 7 off
>>339779347
>that has had regression soon after release
Literally what? It has the 2nd highest market share after Windows 7.
>>339778901
That's where the gaming industry will go next. When Google fiber is implemented everywhere in 10+ years. Right now, you can barely play runescape through a vpn and get decent latency
>>339779603
And? It had months of regression, particularly after that forced W10 update fiasco.
>>339779567
It was a free OS and did capture as much of the market as 7 did on release, thats fucking horrendous by every metric.
>They wont "have" to do shit for you. Intel, OEMs and others will force feed it and cut windows 7 off
Read it again, you totally missed the point and in turn just said something irrelevant
>>339778450
This. It won't affect anyone.
>>339779774
Okay kid, you keep living in lala land
>>339779556
I have no opinion, actually. Just curious why W10 is considered so evil.
>>339779669
>Computers started off with terminals all connected to one big machine, sharing resources and processing time
>Computers moved away to people having their own resources and not having to share with anyone else
>Moving back to all users accessing a central point, having to share resources and processing time again
What a terrible time to be alive
>>339779785
>>339779567
*didnt
Derp
>>339779880
The spying stuff, which is really easy to cockblock with http://pastebin.com/xjkTUchF
If you do this, and a couple other tweaks, there is no disadvantage to having Win10.
>>339780059
All those "fixes" have been proven multiple times to not work
>>339780059
Wait, spying?
>>339778636
>skype
I don't use it.
>online transactions
I don't buy very many things online. Vidya and car parts mostly.
>email accounts
I check my email about once a month and send emails even less frequently than that.
>phone convos
I have a flip phone, calls and texts only, and there are things I won't talk about on the phone.
I'm not even tin-foil-hatting in how I live my life, but Windows 10 is much more invasive than what I reveal already.
>>339780218
Yeah. They can also remotely delete your shit too
>>339780059
There is also no disadvantage to not having windows 10. And when the time comes that there is one, I'll be long gone from Microsoft and their terrible practices
>>339778567
its free you fucking retard
>>339780294
Hm. Well, the only thing they're gonna see is way, waaay too many visits to TFWiki.net.
>>339780352
"Free"
>>339780428
the fuck you talking about
>>339779785
Just because you say it with such conviction doesn't make it any less bullshit buddy
Adoption rates have been consistently higher than 7 and that's just a fact and undisputable
And no the majority of Microsofts business is not business, despite what you may think and their is no market to capture when talking about huge operations using legacy software they bought ten, twenty years ago
>>339780178
>blocking an address through a router doesn't prevent Win10 from sending information to that address
Okay pal
>>339780352
So is a burglar breaking into your house and stealing your private documents and other things you care about. Being "free" alone doesn't make it good for you
>>339780428
>>339778763
>There will be a different Windows OS by then, and it wont have all the shit people hate about W10.
lad
>>339778921
Holy shit I haven't seen the Bill cheetos image in years
Thank you anon
>>339778295
Is there a daz loader for windows 10? I haven't really kept up with anything after windows 7. Probably just stop playing games if not. All I play now is monster hunter anyway.
>>339780059
A piss-ass UI, poor performance, and another layer of incompatibility with legacy software/drivers are disadvantages.
knowing that most of /v/ will be forced to pay for 10 instead of getting it for free, fills me with determination
>>339780551
>And no the majority of Microsofts business is not business
Pfthahah, holy shit, just wow. You have no idea what you are talking about
No more replies for you shitposter.
>Keep all my important files on my Windows 7 machine
>Build another PC for gaming that runs Windows 10
>It's an investment, now I have a backup PC
>H-haha, I sure showed those consolefaggots
I already upgraded. So I guess nothing.
>>339780538
If you're too stupid to understand there is no hope explaining it.
Stop playing new video games
I haven't played anything good except the wticher 3 that came out in the last 3 years and I doubt that's going to change
I have enough of a backlog to keep me going until my death
>>339778295
stalk humblebundle for a few years and play old games I find on sale
so basically nothing changes for me
>>339780708
>piss-ass UI
It's more or less the same as Win7
>poor performance
Source?
>old software
Compatibility mode works fine.
>>339781037
My neighbors windows 10 machine bought last year runs slower than my Linux machine from 3 years ago
What are you going to do when file editors change code so that modern games will work on all the older operating systems?
>>339781120
My new tablet runs slower than my 5 year old pc
Would dual booting not work? Just buy a cheap second hand SSD and use that one just for games that need W10.
>>339778295
Continue enjoying games on my current Windows 10 machine.
>>339781210
It's kind of sad, really, all these promises of faster machines and they can't keep up. To be fair, you're comparing a tablet to a desktop (I'm assuming) while mine was laptop against laptop.
>>339781120That's because Linux is better than Windows
Win10 is better or the same as Win7 in every area of performance.
>>339780261
>I check my email once a month
So you're literally underage as fuck?
>>339778295
Go back to tabletop
Give up gaming, forever.
>>339778295
Chuckle at the tinfoilhatters and Linuxfags who now have to pirate/buy Win10 because they didn't get their chance for a free one.
>>339781590damn right
But my windows 7 work laptop from 2 years ago boots up faster than her laptop, still. And it's bloated with stupid work related things
>>339781037
>It's more or less the same as Win7
No, they removed the Classic Theme, which is what I run on W7, and I don't know if you can still overwrite applications like Paint or Media Player with their older, lightweight, and ribbon-free equivalents like I've done with W7.
>Source?
I admit it's anecdotal like >>339781120.
>Compatibility mode works fine.
Windows 7 already doesn't play nice with W95 or W2k era games and some applications. W10 will be worse. There's tens of thousands of games and programs out there, compatibility mode is not a fix-all.
>>339781607
How is that being underage? I only check mine twice a month. Three times, tops.
>>339781780
>Windows 7 already doesn't play nice with W95 or W2k era games and some applications. W10 will be worse. There's tens of thousands of games and programs out there, compatibility mode is not a fix-all.
Just use freaking DOSbox already
>>339778295
Guess I'll switch to mac and buy a console.
>windows 10 is a botnet!
Shouts the neckbeard, while using windows 7 botnet.
>>339780551
>And no the majority of Microsofts business is not business
How the fuck do you think they utterly destroyed IBM in the OS market?
>>339781607
I'm technically self-employed in a two-man business and communicate with my boss by phone when necessary.
I love my job. Sorry if you got sucked into a traditional office job or something like that.
>tfw I use Mac OS X 7.5 and Parallels
>tfw I can run any OS as a virtual machine and have unique configurations for each
feels good
>>339781871
>tripfag is such a waste of life shut-in that he has no need for email
Amazing.
>>339778295
>What are you going to do when no new PC game works on Windows 7
Install Windows 12?
I probably wouldn't care about updating to windows 10 if they didn't push it so fucking hard.
The fact that they are willing to try to make people update to windows 10 via trickery is what really gets me. That isn't the behavior of a benevolent entity.
>>339779342
I do, it runs warframe fairly
>>339781985
You can parrot memes, but it's pretty meaningless unless you back it up. The parts of win7 that get botnet-y are the recent telemetry updates (which if you managed to install makes you a retard) and a somewhat suspicious "_NSAKEY" which long predates modern NSA surveillance techniques. Nowhere near as bad as 10's integration to the entire OS
I'm getting tired of computer bullshit
I might just join the console master race
>>339781880
I didn't know people were running Windows 95 in DOSbox now, so thanks for the tip. It's an inelegant solution but so is the only alternative I've found for the Win95 version of Mechwarrior 2 on W7.
That's no reason to upgrade to W10, though.
>>339782132
Well, if its work related I imagine I would be using my work laptop, now wouldn't I?
Anything else is just junk, sales ads, and "Find horny single mothers near you!"
>>339782298
You could just use the dos version of Mech 2.
>Let's abandon a whole junk of our potential sales because lolfuckdaW7guyz amirite???
Just like when Vista was announced right?
>>339782243
take a screenshot of your desktop
>>339782220
Ding ding ding.
>>339781985
>>339782256
If Windows 7 was anywhere near as botnet-y as W10, they wouldn't be pushing W10 so hard.
>>339782334
>tripfag is so retarded as to get his personal email signed up for a bunch of spam garbage
Amazing.
>>339782298
I remember using Win95 on DOSbox awhile ago but it requires some set-up.
If you can't get it working you can just use a virtual machine.
>>339782374
Yeah, but it gave me controls problems and I really just wanted to run it straight from my desktop.
>>339782132
>anon has to be "connected" instead of freeing his time to enjoy life, or play mora vidya
I bet you're on facebook too, normie.
>Windows 10 spies on all your shit
>OSX is tied down to overpriced hardware
>Linux is amazing but has little third party support
>new software will eventually not work on old versions of windows
There won't be a decent operating system in the near future.
How did this happen.
>>339778295
I won't play that game.
I think that enough people wouldn't play that game to the point where requiring your OS to be windows 10 would knock out a significant portion of your cashpile.
In the interim, Microsoft will get their head out of their ass and Windows 11 will not gather local information from my computer. Unless, of course, they are being forced to by a government entity.
In the event that they do not get their heads out of their asses and act in a sinister fashion, I will wait for a third party to appear who will not snoop on my shit for the gubment, allow my games to run on it and requires me to labor over figuring out how to use linux.
With a free market, Microsoft will either
>Stop being cunts
>Continue being cunts and a competitor will rear it's head above the waves
>>339782869
Haven't you heard? 2016 is the year of the Linux desktop.
>>339782989
>Haven't you heard? 2016 is the year of the Linux desktop.
>>339778295
I'll switch to Windows 10 enterprise. It will probably be a decent OS by that time period.
Is DX12 even important enough to warrant an "upgrade"?
>>339782989
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHaaaaa
>>339783216
not until they force it on you (i.e. games with DX12 only)
>>339782869
If Apple products were the price of regular PCs, would they be worth it?
>>339783216
Not currently, no. There's a small handful of games that use it, I think. Tomb raider I think is one of them
>>339782869
>He doesn't know about Hackintosh
I just wish it didn't have compatibility issues with every update.
>>339783341
For comfy video/audio/photo editing? Absolutely.
![magic_mouse_2_charging[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jLmuGBH.jpg "magic_mouse_2_charging[1].jpg")
>>339783341
>>339783546
This can't be real
>>339783546
That's pretty amusing if true. It'd be the perfect example of Apple's form over functionality.
>>339783341
Their software support support for gaming is abysmal. OpenGL is still several versions behind. No support for Vulkan.
So no.
>>339783523
I know about Hackintosh, but you admit it has issues and it doesn't have the software support of windows.
What I'll probably do is install Linux and run games with a Windows VM, but I don't know what sort of overhead that'd introduce.
>>339782898
>With a free market, Microsoft will either
>>Stop being cunts
>>Continue being cunts and a competitor will rear it's head above the waves
This only works if the market is perfectly competitive, which is obviously not the case when it comes to technology. You also need to assume that people care about choking on corporate cock, when they in fact enjoy it
>>339783546
FTFY
>>339778636
It's sending telemetry about how you use the operating system so Microsoft can improve it. It's depersonalised so completely anonymous, and basically all mobile apps and websites do it already whether you realise it or not. Most of the anger about Windows 10 is founded in ignorance of how modern software actually works. Ultimately Microsoft aren't invading your privacy to sell you anything or just to be dicks, they're doing it to make the software less shit.
By 2017, Linux will be the primary desktop OS for gamers and enthusiasts.
>>339778295
off to >>/g/randma's house
>>339783971
I wish this was true
>>339783869
But it's windows so the software will always be absolute garbage. Why do they screenshot your desktop every so often then? Why do they need to record your voice and and it to Microsoft servers? Why do my documents, that shouldn't need to leave my computer at all, get scanned and sent to MS? All for"the betterment of their software"? If they can't get a damn text editor working as it should be after 30+ years in the industry maybe they should consider a different field.
>>339778295
Guess I'll not be playing new videogames then. Good thing they're all shit anyway. I have a billion PS 2 games to emulate and just as many old PC games to play. Those libraries alone would last me several lifetimes.
>>339783971
I keep hearing it every year. Are you sure this time?
>>339783869
But it's closed source, so you don't know what's actually being collected. And they were named directly in leaked NSA documents, proving they're directly complicit in government surveillance
>>339783869
5 rupees have been deposited into your account pajeet
>>339784112
I seriously doubt that your desktop is being screenshotted or your documents scanned, and I doubt there's a reliable source that substantiates either of those things occurring. Your voice can be recorded because of Cortana, which can be completely disabled if you like.
>>339784252
They're named in those documents, because their cloud services like Outlook are compliant with government surveillance requests, just like every other large cloud service. Nothing to do with Windows
>>339784309
(You)
>>339778923
You know you can opt out of this, right?
>>339784331
And disabling it disables searching your computer, no? I can't remember. The research is out there, whether it's reliable I guess depends on how much you trust MS to not be scum
>>339780810
Are you kidding me.
>>339778295
The same thing I've done since W10 came out, play video games. Why the fuck do so many of you care about 'mah privacy'. I bet more than half of you retards use chrome or facebook.
>>339785072
Because the telemetry bullshit is leeching off my bandwidth
Well, it's not like modern western games are worth a damn, so it's fine really. I'll just have to hope that I can run certain games well on Linux by then, or I can just play on games in a Windows 7 virtual machine.
>>339785286
Set up GPU pass through. You can run Windows almost natively, but it's a virtual machine running through Linux. It's a little bit of a pain, and you need a second GPU for it, but then you can have the best of both worlds
>>339785286
>or I can just play on games in a Windows 7 virtual machine
That's what I want to do but I don't know what sort of performance hit I'd be taking.
Does it help to have a hexcore processor? I'm a dumbass who thought more cores = better but I assume VMs would have good multithreading
>>339778295
but I am already on windows 10
>>339785252
I'm sure the kilobytes of data sent every few hours is bringing your connection to its knees
I'll be able to finally become fluent in Japanese and finish making my own music and games.
>>339778295
Done with games at that point, I don't like this scene much anyway.
