>kill demons in a small room
>walk/run through areas to find a bottom to open a locked door
>listen to some pointless dialogue about hell energy (cause that is literally the only thing said half the time)
>repeat
People are praising this boring ass game
not to mention its multiplayer is Call of Duty will Demons pick ups
At least the soundtrack isn't bad.
>>339777340
Sorry that you have shit taste OP
>>339777340
What did you want the game to be?
the game is doom with modern video game shit added like in game exposition and tacked on multiplayer
>>339777340
>call of duty
The health system and community favoritism towards the shotgun rather than assualt rifles makes it much different than call of duty
What do you think the original Doom was OP?
>Kill demons in small room/open area
>Run around looking for color coded keys to open next area
>No dialogue so you just had to pretend to understand the non-existent story
>>339777340
>>339778120
hold the fucking phone.
OP the game you just described is every singleplayer fps ever. DOOM did something else like let you explore and find collectables. You have to move about an arena to not die and it's not just stand and shoot and take cover like every COD the exists under the sun. different enemies are weaker to different types of weapons.
Are these new concepts to fps? Hell no. But at least they brought these back to give life to a dying genre. The singleplayer fps. It's refreshing to have these features. DOOM is a solid 7-8/10
>>339778552
>Someone used my image
Beat me by 3 seconds motherfucker
>>339777340
Sorry you can't befriend the demons and learn about how quarky they are in their free time.
>>339778601
TimeShift didn't have demons and hell energy anon
I don't know what games you've been playing but i'd like to play them too
>>339778552
>>339778557
niggermind
I guess Doom was never a good.
>>339778770
very funny but let's not pretend that "demons" can be interpreted as humans, soldiers, police officers, etc.
Timeshift and other fps had some bullshit stories too. just like Hell Energy. Which quite frankly DOOM Slayer didn't really give a fuck about which was perfect. that's not to say that every cutscene was perfect for DS's personally. (why didn't DS just break the glass and kill Elizabeth Clark?)
>>339778749
>Sorry you can't befriend the demons and learn about how quarky they are in their free time.
This could be a decent idea
Make it a prequel where Doomguy becomes the DoomSlayer have him with the Knights and introduce the demon that made the armor and shit like that
>>339778601
Not OP, but i agree with him.
I'm like 5 levels in, and i'm finding it pretty dull.
It's way too linear, and the big battles are too forced.
The cinematic melee kill shit is really annoying too. Luckily i can just ignore it... however, the down side to this is that the game is balanced around it. You run out of ammo pretty fast without using this + chainsaw.
I'd give it a 6.5/10.
Doom 1/2 are both 9/10 for me. I'd rather replay them than play the new DOOM.
>>339777340
I'd buy this shit in a heartbeat if it wasn't a necessity into a stock melee animation to regain health, with enemies standing around and waiting for you to do it after a few shots.
Everything looks great, sounds fun, but I don't want to play a game that requires precooked melee animations on each enemy to stay alive. That's not the sort of FPS I'm into.
>>339778749
I would buy that as DLC
>>339779462
It doesn't "require" you to do shit. You don't like the glory kills, fine, don't do them and just pick up health packs off the ground.
>>339779595
The game puts every enemy into slow motion after you shoot them, waiting to be melee'd, and the difficulty of the game is built around the concept of you gathering health from these enemies.
>>339779462
If you're going to play at a difficulty where this would be a necessity then you should just git gud and not get hurt
>>339779595
There aren't really enough health packs around to heal you. Also you burn through about twice as much ammo if you don't use glory kills.
You'd have to play on a much easier setting to not get crippled by it.
>>339779784
>just play on easy if you don't want to use a shitty mechanic
>>339779917
No i said for you to get good because your acting like a bitch because you can't avoid catching everyone's attacks
>>339777340
Only 1 mission does that
Also DOOM was the exact same shit of combat replacing the traps for Arenas
I had fun
>>339779402
>>339779469
>I would buy Undertale clone
fags
>>339777340
>>339779439
Which difficulty are you guys playing.
>>339780018
>implying I'm going to buy a game steeped in shitty design
Even if you played using twice the amount of ammo and never getting hit, enemies would still stand around glowing waiting for your quicktime event
>>339780308
Nightmare is the only way to play
>>339780125
>date fov
absolutely disgusting
>>339780410
That's the highest too
>>339779439
>It's way too linear
u focking wot
Levels are huge, its follows the Maze-like design of DOOM without making it you go "where the fuck do i go next"
>big battles are too forced
No shit, same happend in DOOM where you picked up something and 10+ Demons would jump at you in either a very small room or big room.
>The cinematic melee kill shit is really annoying too
For some reason it grew on me, i thought i was going to hate it but it lasts less than 1 second and it doesnt stop the gameplay from flowing
>>339779462
If you are really that hardcore and want to play it with pickups only, you can, if you are a good player you can pretty much do a no damage battle
>>339779846
>There aren't really enough health packs around to heal you.
Literally git gud. There is plenty of health around to keep you alive if you avoid enemy projectiles.
>Also you burn through about twice as much ammo if you don't use glory kill
See above. Glory kills hardly ever drop ammo anyway, you have to conserve it (i.e. git gud) or rely on the chainsaw.
>dude DOOM singleplayer is super true to originals
>check out some videos since there's no demo
>looks kind of fun
>DEMONIC PRESENCE DETECTED LOCKDOWN IN EFFECT
>see the finisher and instakill animations
>the fact that it's just called DOOM
I think I just have too big of a heart for classic Doom
>>339777340
TB said it was good so it's good
>Firing the BFG for the first time
Slightly concerned, have about 4-5 hours total playtime and I think I am already at the end. Just finished the level where you get the BFG.
>>339780472
>Levels are huge, its follows the Maze-like design of DOOM without making it you go "where the fuck do i go next"
>that level split in two because of how xboxhuge it is
jesus fuck
>starting from mid levels, can't 100% trackback past a point on most levels
this is so much bullshit
>>339780737
Im in the same spot, 12hrs in.
>>339780363
>enemies would still stand around glowing waiting for your quicktime event
Glowing is optional, and if you shoot them while staggered they usually gib. It's literally your choice in how you play.
>>339780737
You are rushing through it if you are already on that level. You should have about 8 hours at that point
Also glory kills gives you at MOST 5 HP per kill, you cant survive on that shit
And the standing around thing only lasts for 3-4 seconds, unless you are going for the kill, you wont notice that with the combat.
This is all from the real difficulty Nightmare and not the easy fucking Ultra Violence one
>>339780664
I went into the game expecting it to hate it to its core, but i just cant do it, this is not buyer remorse either, i was given a review copy of the game and i just love the game.
And this is coming from a fan of DOOM of around 19 years
>>339777340
The game would be much better if demons were scattered throughout the levels, but hey, at least we got a fun action game in the year 2016. Too bad the MP blows giant cock, though.
>>339780737
Are you rushing through on ez baby mode?
Play nightmare, you pussy.
>>339780861
How am I rushing, ive only missed one Ritual Stone and maybe 1-2 doomguy dolls. I got the talent that lets you see all the secret locations by the 3rd or 4th level.
However I have only gotten 2 of the Doom 1 levels unlocked.
>>339780759
There are only 2 levels that split into 2 and i do agree that they were bullshit
>>339780914
>gives you at MOST 5 HP per kill,
it's 20-25
But it takes a moment for it to all drop which can get you killed if you're waiting around for it
still not that much if you're soaking up everyone's projectiles
>>339780976
Multiplayer would be GOAT if they tweaked a few things honestly. It's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
>>339781049
>Unlocking talents
Theres your problem
>>339781032
Well considering nightmare is locked the first time through I can't play on it yet. I just went with the normal difficulty I wasn't sure how hard the game was gonna be.
Am I near the end? If I am that kinda fucked up Wolfenstein TNO was at least 12-14 hours my first playthrough.
>>339780759
>that level split in two because of how xboxhuge it is
Lazarus Labs? I think it's split in two to accommodate the Cyberdemon boss fight at the end. They were probably taxing the consoles' memory too much to do it in a single map. Though it has a lot of vertical space to enable the reactor platforming it's not particularly large in terms of explorable space. I'd say Argent Facility is larger and that's a single map
>>339780125
Is that sped up or is it just a side effect of the quake autist FOV?
>>339781060
>Playing easy difficulty
The only moment when they give you more than 5 HP is when you have 5 to 10 HP yourself
>>339780664
>instakill animations
Enemies are practically dead when you are allowed to perform a glory kill on them.
There are times you might want to aim for a glory kill to leech some health and you have to calm down your tits not to kill them instead.
>mfw I thought I was gonna hate this Brutal Doom HD bullshit but ended up liking it
I enjoyed the game, but I've also come to accept that no modern developer knows what made older FPSs such classics. They are forever lost to the "concept" of classic FPSs, so we're stuck with Serious Sam or Painkiller type encounters, only with a little more exploration before the next arena.
>>339780737
You're a bit over halfway in. There's still a solid amount of game ahead
>>339781178
Nightmare isnt locked form the beginning. Only Ultra Violence is
>>339781060
It depends on your current health. If you're above 50, they seem to drop 5-10, but if you're near death you can get more than 50 from one kill.
>>339781174
You're right, since the first Doom was only keyboard I should stop using my mouse as well. The autism in this thread is palpable.
>>339781074
It just feels like they emulated Call of Duty, I tried to like it, but at least the single player is good.
>>339781274
Ultra-Nightmare, you mean.
Nightmare isn't locked, it's just highlighted in red, which makes it look like it's locked.
>>339781284
>He's been using a mouse.
>>339781260
Thanks, I am really enjoying the game. I just felt I had a lot of talents and weapon unlocks already I thought I was near the end.
>>339781178
Nightmare aint locked from the get go you nigger, it just a red text, Ultra Nightmare is the locked one, it even has a fucking lock for fucks sake
>>339781191
Slightly sped us, PLUS he has a haste powerup (yellow) AND the fov makes it look faster
>there are people out there who played this game in difficulty modes easier than Nightmare
>>339781284
I bet that everyone here played the old DOOM with source ports and WASD
These faggots crying that the new DOOM is shit are the same faggots that played DOOM in 2000+
>>339781284
>You're right, since the first Doom was only keyboard
It wasn't. Why is this meme still alive? It supported mouse natively and so did Wolfenstein 3D
In Masters of Doom John Romero says even as back as Wolf 3D they envisioned it to be played as a mouse (and that the par time of the levels were all done with a mouse + putting some extra seconds on top of it)
>>339781448
It's not sped up at all, I have the kill gives you speed rune and faster glory kills rune
>>339781258
To be fair, its better than the shitfest that they tried to pull with Doom 3 by trying to make it some survival horror fps. I could literally walk into a room and guess each spawn point and when enemies would spawn before it happened.
Shit was bullshit jumpscare haunted house tactics the whole game
>>339781487
I imagine most of /v/ played on normal.
>>339780308
Finished it on Ultra Violence.
Currently going through all the levels on Babby-mode to get all thetrophies
>>339781240
By instakill animations I mean the chainsaw even though it uses fuel
>>339781487
You couldn't even access nightmare until you finished the game once
>>339781578
I forgot those were even a thing. I went full dakka mode with the infinite ammo over armor runes.
>>339781284
>the first Doom was only keyboard
No.
>>339781695
I just started yesterday, and Nightmare is unlocked.
>>339781587
I kinda wish they kept more of the haunted house aspect from Doom 3, only made the scares actually dangerous to take advantage of DOOM's speed.
>>339777340
but the sound track is shit. doom 3 theme is better even if it repeats that stupid autistic screamo shit.
>>339781765
Yes.
Mouse support was not added until later.
>>339781546
How common do you think PCs were in early 90s? I got to play those games without a fucking mouse because they weren't all that prevalent back then. It's not a meme, but you sure are autistic.
This game is fun af albeit a little easy on normal.
>>339781889
>that stupid autistic screamo shit
What?
>>339781920
>How common do you think PCs were in early 90s?
But at the time Doom only ran on IBM PC. You had a PC that was strong enough to run Doom but it didn't have a mouse? That's not believable
>>339781284
First doom was keyboard with Arrow keys binds and mouse movement to the sides, you niggers dont know shit
>>339781781
>>339781695
>>339781274
>People are this retarded
>>339781918
>This faggot
Dont tell me you never loaded the Mouse driver?
>>339781967
>playing on anything below Nightmare
>>339781487
I forgot that /v/ is casual as fuck when it comes down to videogames
>>339781546
>Why is this meme still alive?
Might be because most people didn't bother playing with a mouse back then, at least I know me and neither of my friends didn't, so I guess they just assume there wasn't even support for it.
It wasn't well into Quake/Quake II when it became more commonplace around my area, and it was only then when I realized I could actually play Doom and Duke3D and all the other "old" clones with a mouse, too.
>tfw discovering on your own you can use a mouse in FPS
I will never forget that day.
I played the shit out of the original doom wads back in the 90's. It was about fucking up demons. And it was awesome.
I also am playing through the new doom. Which is about fucking up demons, and it's fucking awesome. With the sensitivity of my mouse up it's a great fast paced gory killfest.
I thought they were going to fuck it up, instead they gave me exactly what i wanted in a doom game.
I fucking love it.
>>339781920
>"the first Doom was keyboard only!"
>anon answers it wasn't and that even one of the creators says it wasn't
>"Well, I played on KB!!!"
you're the autistic one
>>339777340
It puts in perspective how bad things have gotten that this game is actually exceptional.
>>339782118
>People are this retarded
You literally could not access Nightmare difficulty on day 1. I am not fucking with you
>>339782068
You've been proven wrong several times in this thread, original Doom didn't have mouse support until later, even then you still couldn't look up or down because the level would have looked awkward as fuck.
You just sound like an underaged edgelord who played Doom on an emulator or on a console.
>>339777340
yeah you are right apart from 1 or 2 levels where they do let you explore a bit, the rest of the game is just carrot on the stick till the very end maybe they were worried people would get lost in a big level? i dunno
overall it's a solid 6/10 but surprisingly short
It's not oldschool in any way at all nor does it do anything new or interesting that other games don't do better already.
it's a little disappointing since this game should have been the flagship title to really reign in the bullshit that has been eroding the genre for so long
>>339781918
No.
>>339782118
The game wasn't even remotely hard even on Nightmare difficulty
>>339782350
>Getting BTFO by the game's developer
Ouch
I can't understand how you negroes are still falling for the "original doom had no mouse support" retardation seen in every Doom thread in the last month.
>>339782259
>You've been proven wrong several times in this thread
No I haven't
>even then you still couldn't look up or down because the level would have looked awkward as fuck.
That's freelook, a different thing entirely - you'd need something newer like a sourceport to look up or down (and on something like ZDoom it doesn't look warped btw). But natively (original DOS executable), you COULD use a mouse to aim and even to move if you wanted. You're wrong buddy
>>339782624
>>339782259
sorry pham, meant to quote this tard
>>339782336
>>339782576
I always played doom, douk and even quake keyboard only as a kid it didn't even occur to me that mouse would be an option till halflife i think
Things sure were different back then...
>>339782259
Or how jaded you are. I'm going with the latter.
>>339782350
And thus dumb wronganon left the thread forever
>>339782624
>>339782561
>>339782350
>underages don't understand how rare a mouse was in the early 90s
Original Doom nearly every person played with a keyboard and no mouse. I don't know a single person my age that played Doom with a mouse and if you did it was awkward as fuck because even id had no idea how to use a mouse for proper inputs.
ORIGINAL DOOM HAS MOUSE THAT'S WHY CHOCOLATE DOOM HAS MOUSE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>339782740
How does jadedness change that this is pretty much the only game that has stepped out of the fps comfort zone in years and that if it were standard people wouldn't be praising it as highly?
>>339782732
I still remember playing with arrow keys back then and seeing proplayers of quake saying: "WASD is the way to go to be competitive" and everyone was like "hell no"
>>339782892
Who cares how you played. You said it was keyboard only. It wasn't. It wasn't even designed primarily for KB
Just leave the thread, it's getting embarassing
>>339782130
>>339782732
I distinctly recall glancing at the mouse options in SETUP.EXE from all those games and thinking "yeah right, like I'm going to use a mouse".
>>339782892
>Original Doom nearly every person played with a keyboard and no mouse.
It still had mouse support regardless of how much its use was extended.
>>339782892
>John Romero is underage b&
No anon, you are the bait
>>339782892
Are these goalposts heavy?
>>339782624
Wait where the fuck is that?
Can you play it?
>>339782892
I played Doom when it came out m8, my Dad and his best friend were computer enthusiasts. We all played with a mouse and keyboard
>>339782892
>Original Doom nearly every person played with a keyboard and no mouse.
This is beside the point, stop moving the goalposts.
>>339777340
It's shit
>>339780125
>using the shotgun at that range
Disgusting.
>>339782937
I'm asking you what's wrong with it
>>339782892
There was a part of the manual that told you how to fucking load the Mouse driver you autistic fuck
>>339777340
I picked up the shotgun and couldn't shoot and kill enemies at long ranges with it. I immediately realized it was a bullshit game that only retards liked.
>>339783265
No you're not, you're calling me jaded.
>>339783165
You can't play it. You can however play "Demon Destruction", a Doom-themed Bejeweled clone on Olivia Pierce's office
The STTP3 machine is on a Rune Trial room, hidden behind some crates. I believe in Lazarus Labs or whichever level it is you go to Hayden's office
>>339783182
>>339783172
>>339783158
>>339783062
>>339783048
You all clearly understood the point of keyboard only. Instead the call to autism led you to somehow thinking you defeated the original claim that somehow playing with talents is bad.
t. Keyboard only guy
>>339783295
That's totally not a retarded reason at all
>>339783295
try killing a shotgun zombie from long range in old doom nigger
>>339783182
I played it with a mouse on my uncle's computer back then. 34 years old. If you had a PC that could run Doom well you probably had a mouse
>>339783331
Yes you can play it
>>339783349
200% M A D
>uh oh I'm losing an argument
>better use the autism buzzword
>>339783361
I don't play Doom for fucking player progression, upgrades/perks/runes can go fuck themself. The shotgun should be useful outside of close range without upgrades.
>>339783349
>Mr. BTFO trying to get cute
Get the fuck out
>>339782892
>how rare a mouse was in the early 90s
It wasn't rare at all dude.
Windows was starting to get real big at that point, and everyone wanted in.
>>339783402
It works, what's your point you faggot? The shot just disappear in the new game.
>>339783529
The upgrades are a grenade launcher and a 3 burst fire shot.
You never get a long range upgrade considering that the grenade launcher is not a shotgun blast.
Like i said, go and play DOOM 1 and kill a zombie from afar, it will take 2 shotgun blasts to do it, here it takes between 2 to 3 depending on the range
>>339783349
>getting this BFTO
God Damn.
>>339783737
I never said that you can one shot at long range you retard I said it was still usable at longer ranges. The new game just has your shots disappear after a certain range and it's fucking awful.
>>339783295
Youve clearly never used buckshot. Hell, even slug based ammo in shotguns have about a 75 yard range at max efficiency, and even then, theyre inaccurate as fuck
>>339783723
I think they realized that you'd just use the regular pump shotgun for everything if they gave it longer range in NuDoom. Upgrades even allow it to kill big guys fast
On MP and SnapMap it has a tighter spread than on SP
>>339783939
And you saying the new Doom accurately represents shotguns? It does a piss poor job at it considering older games did it better.
>>339783402
>try killing a shotgun zombie from long range in old doom nigger
hahahahahaha
have you ever even played it? jesus christ, it's so easy to do
>>339784078
How, by having longer range? I've fired a shotgun while hunting my friend. And youre using buckout outside of 150 feet, its all but useless
>>339782261
Nightmare is just red, but it isn't locked. Ultra-Nightmare has a lock next to it. It is locked.
>>339781889
The evolution from thrash metal midi in Doom to industrial with Trent Reznor in Quake to Djent Industrial in the new one is a prefect evolution.
>>339777340
>Shitpost FOTM
>>339784242
So the new depiction of it losing any kind of effectiveness past 10 meters is considered accurate to you?
>>339782068
Their target was a 386 during Doom development.
That's a pretty low spec in 1993 when pentiums where around the corner.
>>339784381
Is this C.Viper cosplaying as bowser?
>>339782350
>YFW Romero made the Gone Homo .WAD
Gaynor blown the fuck out.
Storydriven games like GH are a fucking cancer.
