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Man. How can distinguised developers like Bioware and Bethesda
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Man. How can distinguised developers like Bioware and Bethesda ever compete ever again?
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They have different target audiences. Bioware has the "why can't I skip the gameplay?" waifu/husbando audience, Bethesda has the memes and lowest common denominator audience, and CD Projekt Red has the elitists and people who actually like video games.
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Somebody photoshop Punished Regis
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>Bioware office audibly cheered when they heard Witcher 3 was delayed
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>>339768348

Whizzbang cool moments/setpieces will continue to earn them money - it works for CoD well enough.

Eventually the failure will be losing talent and creativity to the point that even the casuals move along. Dedicated devs can on occasion show up the tired and heavy established ones, and the established become so mired in their own bullshit that they can't innovate even when they want to. I think we're seeing this with Bioware now. Bethesda can do core moment to moment gameplay better still, and the size of their audience cannot be underestimated. There's also the danger of CDPR falling into similar traps that Bethesda has already navigated as their size grows.
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while witcher does have much better writing and decisions, I still have more fun playing fallout..

why is that?
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>>339769268
Dunno, bad taste maybe? I enjoyed the last 30 minutes of blood and wine more than the 48 hours of fallout 4 I bothered to play.
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>>339769161
>There's also the danger of CDPR falling into similar traps that Bethesda has already navigated as their size grows.
It's inevitable, but for now they're too concerned with becoming better at the dev game. I bet Cyberpunk is going to be another GOTY, then we'll see.
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>>339769268
>I still have more fun playing fallout..
Well, which one fucker?
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>>339769161
>There's also the danger of CDPR falling into similar traps that Bethesda has already navigated as their size grows.

That's a given.

For now just enjoy the golden age of CDProjekt and after a decade or so we'll all be shitposting here how they used to be so good and now only make garbage.
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>>339768581
Skyrim>Witcher 3
Elder Scrolls will always be the rpg king
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BioWare have become irrelevant. Even David Gaider handed in his resignation. There is not one single veteran left who worked on the games that made BioWare famous--there are only coattail-riding SJWfags enslaved by EA.

Even normalfags thought Fallout4 was sort of shit. Bethesda spooked modders with their whole sleazy "Give Todd Money For Doing Nothing" campaign to monetize mods. Bethesda just needs to fuck off and become console-only, their games are boring shit anyway.

CDRed needs to take their time and make Cyberpunk great and it'll be okay. Just don't make the sun rise at 3:30 AM again holy shit that triggers my autism so fucking hard in Witcher 3 AND THERE ARE NO MODS TO FIX IT. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU
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>>339769446

I agree Cyberpunk will be their defining moment. Considering even TWIII is in many ways a trial run for what they want Cyperpunk to be. It'll be their best shot.
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>>339768348
they made their name, and their name sells

they do not need to produce quality product, they just need to produce product


they will "compete" by being big to fail
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>>339769268
as long as you mean New Vegas you're an alright guy
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>>339769613
4
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>>339769719
Have a (You) so nobody else has to bother with giving you one.
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>>339769827
Pretty much. They just need to show a good trailer and polish the small parts they show on gameplay and people will eat out of their hands
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>>339769846
going all out I see
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>>339769741
>Just don't make the sun rise at 3:30 AM again
You're not only autistic but also retarded.
Consider the fact that the time, and especialy the clock, is subjective.
It's time in a fantasy setting, just roll with it.
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>>339769741

Weekes is still there, and he's a great writer. The few shining moments of the later ME games and even DA:I? Most likely his work.

>>339769741

I still don't understand how Bethesda saw Morrowind's port to Xbox making money and thought "See? We need more dumbed down console games!" When at the time people like me were snapping it up because of the severe lack of in depth RPGs who lacked the funds, desire, or knowledge to build their own PC.
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>>339768348
Why would they care?

It's literally fucking over for witcherfags.

While Bioware is working on ME4 and DA4 and Bethesda on TES VI, you are never ever geting anything other than lame memepunk
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>>339769741
>Just don't make the sun rise at 3:30 AM again holy shit that triggers my autism so fucking hard

Don't ever go to Sweden/Norway anon, you'd have a stroke.
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>>339768581
>Thinking witcher 3 with its MMO tier gameplay is for people who actually like games.
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>>339770071
Really good reading comprehension.
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>>339769917
Bethesda also really knows how to market games well on all levels. As cynical as I am and as completely burned as I was on F3 and Oblivion, I still got excited with Skyrim's buildup.
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>>339768348
By making better romances
By having better plot, that LUL WE POLAKZ WUZ LIKE ROYALTY AND SHIT
By being able to make your own character
By making a following a character that felt like you did something with it and not just reliving something that he done in the books
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>>339770071
Nah, there's going to be next Witcher.
And thank god Geralt's story is over, he earned some closure.
Though custom mods/adventures would be great
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>>339768348
Since Bethesda aims for the normal crowd does CDProjekt aim for the abnormal crowd?
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>>339770178
Though F4 showed that they can screw it up too. The game showed all its cards at the first quest finding the minuteman
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how come i never heard of CDPR before witcher 3? where did they get the budget to make such a game?
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>game expansion
>better than every game in the past 5 years

how to we save video games?
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>>339770325
>how come i never heard of CDPR before witcher 3?
Because you weren't paying close enough attention. The Witcher 2 was quite big.

>where did they get the budget
They own GOG
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>>339770223
>CEO says there most likely won't be another witcher
>hurr durr there will be another

what will you do now, that your shilling has ceased to have any purpose, eh?

bethbros and biobros are now running this board again
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Also Microsoft took on the cost of marketing in exchange for CDred initially only optimizing the game for XBONE.

A year of patches improved PC performance a lot, I think.
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>>339770438
My first comment referring to your lack of reading comprehension was referring to the fact that this thread is about developers, not franchises.

What's the point of even shitposting like this?
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>>339769741

But the sun does start rising at 3:30 AM depending on the time and where you are in the world....
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>>339770325

They've had a dedicated but small following for a long time. With The Witcher II, people were didn't follow PC gaming closely might have started to noticed after seeing how good the game looked. They're also Poles with a work ethic and lots of practice and talent available for much less expense than a typical setup in a major city in the US.
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New Witcher game with Ciri as the main character? Y/N?
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>>339770438
There's 2 scenario ahead of us

>Cyberpunk is a failure, CDPR does a new witcher for some guaranteed sales
>Cyberpunk is a success and who cares about witcher anymore

either way I'm pretty hype
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>>339770634
meh. her godlike abilities are 2 ez
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>Cyberpunk 2077 makes a huge splash in 2017
>then they finally unveil their upcoming game
>STALKER2: Return to Pripyat
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>>339770656
Why can't there be an option where cyberpunk does well and they do a new non-geralt witcher
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>>339770616
this. Sun rose 3:50 this morning here. Tomorrow it will rise at 3:48 and will come up 2 minutes earlier everyday until summer solstice
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>>339770438
The truly sad thing is that you seem to think that's a good thing.
It's pathetic almost, yet sad at the same time.
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>>339770325
Not sure really, are you a console gamer? Witcher 2 brought in a large amount of people, myself included. I can see how a console gamer wouldn't have heard of cdproject red since they got witcher 2 quite late.
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>>339770634
Nah, let the player make his own witcher or don't even bother.

Geralt and his group deserve a rest, they've done enough.
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>>339770438
I'll bite.
I'm if it's the end for the franchise I'm fine with it because it ends on a high note, and CDPR will carry their way of storytelling to Cyberpunk and other games they will work on.
Meanwhile in two years we'll see TES VI: Furry Lands of Pedo Mods and new Ass Defect.
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>>339770341
Keep buying anything cdproject red makes until they turn into bioware/bethesda casualised sjwd trash.
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>>339770828

What latitude are you at?
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>>339769719
>Elder Scrolls will always be the rpg king
Elder Scrolls Morrowind and Daggerfall maybe.
But Skyrim? Fucking game is a joke for an RPG.
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>>339770971
>let the player make his own witcher

This, that would hilariously put bethesda and bioware, and any rpg with character creation to shame.
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>>339770634
Cyberpunk will have a Ciri cameo, mark my words
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaJEIfhNRMg
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>>339771158

60.88°N 26.82°E
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>>339769845
new vegas is better than any of these games
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>>339770634
No, and not because >>339770693 - you can easily strip her of most of her powers because muh frosty frost. This guy has the right idea >>339770971 especially considering that C2077 will most probably have a character creator.

>>339770784
>Stalker 2
This actually sounds like something they could've done

>>339771184
They'd still complain that you can only play one class.
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>>339768581
except the combat in witcher fucking sucks and consists of three buttons.
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>>339768760
source?
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Well?
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>>339771378
>3 buttons
>Left trigger block
>b dodge
>a roll
>Y heavy
>x light
>right trigger spell
>rb bomb/crossbow

Thoughts?
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>>339771378
It's at least 6 you dummy
>fast attack
>hard attack
>roll
>dodge
>sign casting
>bombs/crossbow

+oils/signs etc. etc.
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>>339771378
and skyrims combat consists of spamming power attacks your point?
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>>339770784
>STALKER with witchers production value
yes please
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>>339771494
i choose Cringe - autists fighting the ebil guberment with their virginial punkcrap
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>>339771494
I want to be a MAXIMUM LAWMAN.
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>>339771163

Less of a joke than Witcher 3
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>>339770173
I'm pretty sure the comment about elitism followed by an elitist comment was meant to be a joke
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>>339771252

Figures. And Poland is 4:19. 5:54 for me.
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>>339771378
you're right, Morrowing combat is so much better, way more deep.

So is Oblivion
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>>339771621
>Cops
>autists fighting the ebil guberment

Take your ADHD meds m8
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>>339771494
>Roadboys
Hnnn... Hope for a 20km2 of Mad Max in Cyberpunk.
Or not, I guess it wouldn't work. The most important thing for CDPR to convey is actual mindbending and trippy stuff related to cyberpunk.
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>>339770784
>CDPR
>Stalker 2

I'm pretty sure they sold the franchise to bethesda lmao.
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>>339770196

nice bate
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>>339771750
>I'm pretty sure they sold the franchise to bethesda lmao.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>339771480
PB: Have you played Dragon Age: Inquisition?

Bury: I’ve played a little bit. That was one of those games where when it was released everyone at CDPR was like “OK we need to have a look at Dragon Age”. We were originally set to release Witcher 3 at the same time but we delayed. I remember someone sent out an email saying they had a friend working at Bioware who said that everyone was cheering when they found out we’d delayed the Witcher.

http://progressbar.com.au/2016/05/interview-jamie-bury-lead-animator-at-cd-projekt-red/
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>>339771494
R O C K E R B O Y S
Fight the fucking man with sick riffs
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>>339771662
>Witcher 3
>actual quests with well written lore

>Skyrim
>Bandits at fort smorgableorg, oh and remember.... DRAUGR
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>>339771378
So better than 99% of modern RPGs?

Skyrim all you need to do is click one button, Dragon Age is now MMO tier combat, most aRPGs follow the style of combat from the batman games.

The 1% is Dark Souls.
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>>339771750
>>339771818
Nevermind forget what I said those were just rumors.
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>>339770196
>By making a following a character that felt like you did something with it and not just reliving something that he done in the books

To be totally honest with you all lads, I absolutely concur with this point. There aren't many ways to forge your own path and make your playthrough feel unique since it's all so focused around Geralt's story. I can't see any point in replaying the game if it plays the same every time.
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>>339771986
>Witcher 3
>you can roleplay witcher Geralt, witcher Geralt and witcher Geralt
It's fucking "Fallout" 4 tier as far as roleplaying goes. Skyrim might be a joke for an RPG, but Witcher is not RPG.
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>>339771828
I'm glad they delayed it, watching Bethesda eat shit and have its awards stolen by some polacks who Todd and co. have never heard of was priceless.

Maybe that will get Bethesda to actually try making video games.
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>>339772203
You just wrote yourself that you can play the role of Geralt of Rivia, witcher, and then you contradict yourself by saying that the game is not RPG. What are you, a retard?
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>>339772351
>Halo is an RPG because you play role of Master Chef
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>>339772308
>working on the same engine since Morrowind
The "trying" part is never going to happen.
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>>339772203
>skyrim
>you can roleplay as a stealth archer, a stealthier archer and as the stealthiest archer.
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>>339772351
he meant to shitpost that he can roleplay anything in fallout. but you can only roleplay a guy who was raised in a vault in 3, or a mailman in new vegas.
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>>339772203
>but Witcher is not RPG

You may be right but it is a good game so that's all that matters.
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Nah, CDPR can't compete tbqh
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>>339772351
Roleplaying games usually have a bunch of different options for how you fulfill your role, even if it's bound to a single character. Look at Dragon's Dogma for example. You're playing as one definable character in the narrative but you have far more options than you'll ever need for one playthrough.
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>>339772308
DELETE THIS AND WHILE YOUR AT IT GO BUY FALLOUT 4 AND THE SEASON PASS
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>>339772434
>the game only let's you play the in the most cheesiest way and blocks you from trying anything else
>you literally cannot play any other way
OK
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>>339771986

>Witcher 3
>Red shit that leads to..... NEKKERS

>Skyrim
>actual quests involving everything from assassinations to grand heists with well written ORIGINAL lore
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>>339772428
And this is something I dont fucking get. They definetely know that the engine has come to its end and no upgrading and namechanging will fix it. They fucking own IDtech, yet dont give them a budget to make engine that works for open word games in first and third person and has easy modding tools. Literally what the fuck are they thinking?
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>>339771662
Whoever made that tripe forgot one of the main appeals of RPGs and that is the adventure, something Skyrim doesn't have. But if you haven't progressed from playing Barbie house then sure Skyrim is the king.
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>>339772559
yes,that is true
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>>339772474
It matters to me. When something is advertised as an RPG I expect some fucking roleplaying. Same thing with Shit Souls and entire J"RPG" genre.
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>>339772203
C'mon now. Whatever you call yourself in Skyrim you're still always the dragon master.

Witcher actually as choices, consequences, quests with different endings, various romances options, etc. It's an RPG alright
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>>339772478

FUCKING DELETE THIS
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>>339772494
In TW3 the choices are kinda limited in the main quest, but you've got a lot of freedom of choice in the sidequests which consist of around 60% of the main game.
And even during main quest you have some saying, like during the Blood Baron questline or the elections on Skellige. Or with Ciri, what to do with her?
And you can specialize in combat.
It's not like there is NO choice in Witcher 3. It's just that those choices are highly specific.
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>>339772647

Whoever made that tripe forgot one of the main appeals of RPGs and that is the adventure, something Witcher 3 doesn't have. But if you haven't progressed from playing Barbie house then sure Witcher 3 is the king.
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>>339772578
You really should get some new images to go with your baits, I've seen you post the same thing in almost every other witcher thread.
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>>339772696
No, fuck you. I hate Geralt, I don't want to play as that fag. If it was an RPG I could make different character, but I can't.

>>339772659
Yeah, it's true for Witcher.
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>>339772797

You really should get some new images to go with your baits, I've seen you post the same thing in almost every other witcher thread
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>>339768348
I'm totally on board with the hype train and kissing those dastardly pollack's asses.

They weren't fucking around. They could have easily pulled a shisty one and made a bunch of crap dlc, but they took their time and did a good job.

Too bad there's still something clunky about the combat, but they've definitely tweaked to be much better than it was at launch. A couple patches ago there was a major update to the combat.
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How did we go from this
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>>339772681
>It matters to me.

Okay? Nobody cares.

You still have your Dragon Age, Mass Effect bruh, they aren't going nowhere.
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>>339773007
To this?
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>>339773007

To this....
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>>339772757
Blood and wine has shitloads of choises that affect the outcome. I was pretty damn surprised by some twists in it.
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>>339769268
definitely bad taste if we are talking about fallout 4...I beat the game but it doesnt feel like fallout, story and choices (lack thereof, other than the endings choice) are terrible, gameplay is so average, etc.
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>>339772757
That's what I mean, compared to most other RPGs the game funnels you into a very specific "roles" from the outset. Obviously nobody should have expected Geralt to be anything but a monster hunter but then what's the point in calling it an RPG? It's as much of an RPG as something like Far Cry 3 if you put the branching story aside. There isn't much variety in how you can actually play the game.
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>>339772878
You still have the one with the palm tree t-shirt guy laughing? Need to save that one desu
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>>339772308
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>>339771494
MAXIMUM LAWMAN
DREDD UP IN THIS BITCH
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>>339773007
>>339773104
By being games made by entirely different developers. In different continents. What are you, dumb or something?
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Anyone else find it kinda boring? I just began it and am level 5 but I have to say it's a bit repetitive and dull. What do you guys do when not on main quests?
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>>339772840
Geralts a badass man what are you talking about man. Too bad there is not make your own Witcher more tho. It would have been sweet to play as a Witcher from the viper school named Vladimus.I feel like they're saving that for the Witcher mmorpg
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>>339773061
>it's okay when RPG has no roleplaying part
Eat shit.
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>>339773007
>>339773104

The answer: first webm is marketing, the 2nd is a glitch.
But yeah, I love Bloodborne and Witcher 3 equally.
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>>339771378
I don't understand this meme, the combat have more buttons than Dark Souls yet the later one gets praised as having "great combat"
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>>339773229
Nah, I'm fine over here with my GOTY and RPG of the year winner.

You on the other hand might need to calm down
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>>339773197
Find side quests and monster contracts. Explore. Play Gwent.
The beginning is kinda slow.
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>>339773259
>>339773076
>>339773007
>>339773153


to this....
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>>339773228
I don't give a shit about him and I don't want to play as him. Playinga as voiced protag with pre-defined personality has no place in an RPG genre.
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>>339772624
>Literally what the fuck are they thinking?

"lol dude we're using a game engine that wasn't even meant for open world games from 2004 and we're still breaking sales records without having to spend much money"
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>>339769268
shit taste desu famdango
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>>339772578

I like how you mention red shit that leads to an enemy, but intentionally leave out the giant white arrows that are everywhere in skyrim saying "GO HERE"
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>>339773398
>muh awards
Bethesda is laughing at you.
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>>339773229
>I'm okay with skyrim, cause even tho the quests are shit and there's no choice, I can still roleplay as my naked big titted monster with kawaii eyes

>witcher 3 is NOT an rpg, I can only play as a white old male CIS scum

kill yourself my man
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>when people think the term RPG speaks more about branching narratives than it is about variety in how you play the game
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>>339768675
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>>339773197
It really picked up once I got out of the goddamn swamp. After you get to the city you can start getting in fist fights and there's a lot more contracts you can do.
I hate card games, so didn't fuck with that shit, but yeah, it's kinda bland through the low levels in Velen
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>>339773635
QUICK CALL CWC
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>>339773610
>not roleplaying as a stuck down wanderer that escaped her captors, but now is locked in full chastity gear and painful pony boots. desperately looking for anyone to help her out of the binds
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>>339773635
BLUE ARMS

ARMS ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FUR COLORED
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>>339773395

> the combat have more buttons than Dark Souls

Why do people keep parroting this meme?

Witcher 3:

Sword controls:

- Only weapon types are one handed Swords/Maces/Axes (literally all perform IDENTICALLY)
- Fast attack (4 hit combo MAX)
- Heavy attack (2 hit combo MAX)
- can't dynamically mix up fast and heavy attacks into combos
- Can't even consistently choose whether Geralt will do a basic slash or break out into twirling shit

Dark Souls
- 100~ weapons (swords, maces, axes, hammers, greatswords, daggers, claws etc etc etc)
- all have 20~ unique movesets/combos on average

Bloodborne:
- Ludwig Holy Blade has 35+ unique movesets/combos alone
- The other 25+ weapons have similar amounts of combos/movesets

For a game about a spellsword the combat is outright disgraceful.
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>>339773635
these try too hard it's not even funny in a cringe way it's just cringe for you who posts it baka
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>>339773401
>The beginning is kinda slow.

Kinda relived now, because all i've been doing lately is going to those question marks and it gets kinda boring. Also, quests/side quests recommend levels are higher. What the fuck am I supposed to do in the mean time? Killing monsters barley gives you any Xp.
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>>339773610
>there are no choices
There are more choices than in Witcher you fuckface.
>muh faggy protag I have barely any control over is THE ROLE to play
End yourself.
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>>339773729
Good thing the LOD can be modded
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>>339769268

Fallout has better gameplay
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>>339773573

Witcher 3 has both
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>>339773843
Look for more quests.
If you can't find quests on your level in Velen, proceed with the main quest.
Some quests can be found by exploration.
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>>339769768
>>339769446
are there any other video games that are based on tabletop rpg's? i have no fucking idea how cyberpunk would even work
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>>339772624
Imagine having fucking John Carmack on your team and not making him go nuts creating an engine that is good to use and stable, but also keeping it mod-friendly.

Letting him go was probably the worst decision Zenimax ever made.
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>>339773856
you cannot get results like in that screenshot though.

LOD is fucked on my computer but it still shows the markets stuff which is close enough to matter.
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>>339773856

>he thinks the LOD is the only problem
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>>339773776
It's not terrible, it just doesn't push the player nearly hard enough to utilize their abilities in unison. To be fair, what Dark Souls I've played has the same problem. You can deal with most bosses just by hugging their legs and learning their ~4 moves. Even the relatively unique shit like Moonlight Butterfly just as you dodging or blocking slow projectiles until it lands.
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>>339773964
Neuroshima? It's polish too, but probably too close to Cyberpunk.
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>>339773956
alright, thanks m8.
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>>339773007
go back to your containment threads soulsdrone
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>>339774063
Witcher 2 UI, especially the inventory was total shit I agree.
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some monster contract fall flat tho.
I would have prefered less monster contract overall, but fleshing them out more. The Leshen contract in Skellige is GOAT, and I'd take 1 of those quest for every 4 drowners/nekker contract that you get
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>>339774196
You barely ever get just drowners or nekkers, though. IIRC, there are, like, three of each max.
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>>339774165
>>339774063
>>339773901
>>339773729
>>339773415
>>339773104
>EVERYTHING SUCKS!!!!

This board is AIDS
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>>339774165
>witcher 2 looked impressive at the time

Now that I look at it. I only see cheap tricks that irriate the shit out of me
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>>339771032
>until they turn into bioware/bethesda casualised sjwd trash
tfw it's not a matter of if, but a matter of when
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Daily reminder:

Our lord has spoken /v/.

Bloodborne is Super Bunnyhops favorite game. We can finally settle this argument at last brehs
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>>339774063
And the most shit tier thing of all
>boots icon ABOVE gauntlets icon
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>>339774165
your autism is breaking my immersion
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>>339769741
>Just don't make the sun rise at 3:30 AM again

over here where I live the sun rises at around 2:15AM right now...
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>>339774348
>>EVERYTHING SUCKS!!!!
Nah, just the Witcher.
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>>339774196
I like that some are just a simple go here kill this.
Game already has issues with every quest giver lying to you making it expected and never surprising or dramatic.
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>>339774354
I feel it
>that constant cheap fucking sharpening filter
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>>339774665
This. In fact were I live the sun starts to come up at EXACTLY 3:30 AM this time of year.
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>>339774318
I don't remember novigrad and velen, but I'm doing Skellige right now, and I've got 2 drowners contract, both on Ark Skellig, one at an Craite main village, the other one at the south on the island. And I've got a nekker contract on some other clan island on the south of the map, where you have to clear the mine of nekker for the 2 warrior.

That's already 3 just in Skellige, which I haven't even finished yet

It's just boring once you're high level
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>>339773856
What about fog
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>>339774165
>some bioshitter made this after the whole Witcher vs DA:I debate

Back to the bioware general, vile beast
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Compete with what? The Witcher 3 was a mediocre, forgettable "RPG" experience. Shitty gameplay, a boring story consisting of finding Ciri, no depth, boring characters, small and empty open world hub areas, muddy looking graphics, and no little mod support. Once Witcherfags finish their precious DLC they'll just forget about the game.

Meanwhile Skyrim is still being played by 30k-40k people on Steam and has a dedicated modding community. Meanwhile Bioware games tend to have better plot, setting, and characters (Dragon Age, KOTOR, etc.)
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>>339770072
This. It's 3:58 AM here and the sun is already shining on the horizon.

I'm never gonna get to sleep tonight ;_;
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>>339775009
>Bioware games tend to have better plot, setting, and characters
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>>339774968
>some bioshitter made this after the whole Witcher vs DA:I debate
no, its pure trolling from back when witcher 2 was still relevant.

But thanks for reminding me about the fucking wheat thing and how some witcher fans genuinely thought this was a good point.

That was funny.
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>>339774354

Witcher 2 used cheap tricks like Blur and over saturation and lighting to make to appear "good" when it was actually pretty shit
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>>339775195
The original additions to the setting from CD are, not great.
most of the strength comes from having decent source material.
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>>339775009
Bloom my shit up please
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>>339775195

It's true. The Witcher's setting is basically some generic, medieval Game of Thrones style fantasy setting written by Eurofags. Not to mention Geralt is literally a shit protagonist who literally has sex with anything - monsters or human
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>>339775286
>Bloody Baron
>not great
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>>339775286
>witcher prose
>decent

Yeah, no
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>>339775009
>Bioware games tend to have better plot, setting, and characters (Dragon Age, KOTOR, etc.)
>better plot, setting, and characters
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>>339775381
He's not even the main protagonist of the books.

They care way more about his daughter moving to lands of flesh eating unicorns or running a robin hood outfit in nilfgaard..
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>>339775381
>Witcher setting is boring, but DA setting is GOAT
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>>339775205
>thanks for reminding me about the fucking wheat thing and how some witcher fans genuinely thought this was a good point.

No problem, the 30+ pages in the thread someone first posted that in the Bioware forums were a goldmine.
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>>339775381
>shit protagonist who literally has sex with anything - monsters or human
He's a dude and everything with a vagina knows he's mysterious stranger with great stamina, no sperms and invulnerable to STDs.
Geralt is basically every slut's wet dream.
Except when he's high on potions.

One more thing - Geralt IS NOT shit protagonist.
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>>339775381
>generic, medieval Game of Thrones style fantasy setting

You really like just throwing words around huh?
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>>339775524
It was but nothing beats somebody trying to pull a trick on their perceived foes and end up playing it on their allies instead.

its like those fake feminist hashtags that only ever fool mra types
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>>339775386
Baron only seems great because all the other characters are so boring. Skellige itself is one long dull slog.
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>>339775009
>Bioware games tend to have better plot, setting, and characters (Dragon Age, KOTOR, etc.)

I'll grant solid setting status to Mass Effect and Jade Empire.

Better plots and characters? No. Just...no. And I say this as a huge Bioware fan who enjoyed Mass Effect 3 quite a bit and still doesn't quite get the outrage.
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>>339773964
Is this a serious question? Fallout 1 and 2, Vampire the Masquerade - Redemption, Vampire the Masquerade - Bloodlines, Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2, KotOR 1 and 2, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2. There's probably a couple dozen games based on Dungeons and Dragons alone.
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>>339775750
Cerys throws baby into the oven.
If that's dull to you, you might be retarded.
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Is some some autism thread where some contrarian tries to prove everyone wrong? Or can we just discuss the game?
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>>339773845
No, there aren't.
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>>339775750
>based Ermion is not a great character
>Lugos M A D M A N not being a great character

stop it famalam
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>>339775941
>/v/
>Discussing games
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>>339775849
Quite a shame they never properly developed Jade Empire and decided to start yet another tolkien wannabe western medieval fantasy.

On the other hand, I dread what modern BioWare would do to JE so I guess it's better to let it stay dead.
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>>339771378
>3
On pc I got dodge, roll, fast attack, heavy attack, parry, cast signs, 5 sign hotkeys, 4 consumable item hotkeys, and bomb/crossbow button
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>>339769719
3>2>4>5>1
Skyrim isn't even the best out of the elder scrolls faggot.
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>>339769719
I actually agree but liking Oblivion/Skyrim/ESO gets you lynched around here.
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>>339776032
totally forgot about Lugos. Dude was a true Skelliger, shame I had to end him
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>>339775941
/v/ can never properly discuss good games(see the new DOOM for example) you go on /vg/ to do that.

Just don't wait too long or the general will get stale and it will become a tripfag circlejerk.
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those fucking graphics...
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>>339776185
Eh, you know I'd actually be interested to see it. The one thing Jade Empire could have used was a better, more action-y combat system, and I think modern Bioware could handle that.
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>>339768348

Bethesda let their modding community do most of the work for them, fucking bugs me


CDPR feels like they put love and passion into their games, and i greatly appreciate that, even if everything isn't always perfect, i mean, you'll always have people shitting on something or praising something no matter how good or bad it is, but i truly feel CDPR deserves a lot of praise for producing what they do in this day and age
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>only on blood and broken bones difficulty
>final boss fight against Dettlaff

Holy fucking shit I can't beat him.
These one shot kill attacks are fucking ridiculous, they just go straight through quen.
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>>339776248
Skyrim was better than Oblivion by a country mile. Don't kid yourself.

But yes, Morrowind was by far the best.
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>>339776474
Anyone who's ever played these games should know the difference between the distances in both of those images.

Why even bother?
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>>339772478
>Bioware IP's
>Source material: 0
I know this is bait but what the fuck?
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Does W2 get better? I liked the first one but this one isn't clicking. I decided to finish it so I could play W3 but it's getting boring, and I'm worried 3 will be like this too
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>>339776789
I preferred 3 to 2, but 1 was the best. Take that as you will
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>>339776789
The last bits of it are great but overall 2 is kind of the weakest in the series.
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What's the fastest way to make tons of money? I really want to make Grandmaster Feline and Manticore armor sets and all those dimeritium plates and wyvern hides are fucking expensive
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>>339776561
>i truly feel CDPR deserves a lot of praise for producing what they do in this day and age

That's how I feel as well, while I didn't like W3 that much, I certainly felt the passion and work the developers put into this game and I can respect that.
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Is there anyone who actually told duchess about the last letter? I did not have heart for it and got the good ending that actually felt pretty nice.
Yen moving in with me was a great bonus
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>>339776629
Skyrim and Morrowind are both better than Oblivion, and there's two things they share; Solstheim, and dwarven ruins. Clearly that's the equation for a good elder scrolls game.
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>>339773573

You can turn those off and run blind through the entire game, it's not exactly difficult to do in the dungeons since they're just long corridors with the occasional cool set piece inside of it.

Don't use fast travel. Just hijack a horse and ride blindly to your destination. I figure a lot of us could do that shit on memory alone at this point.
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>>339777257
I told her and everything ended fine.
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>>339771378
and in this parallel universe of yours , how much does the 7 button controller cost, derranged person?
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>>339777026
Do quests and kill bandits. Bandit swords in Toussaint sell for ~230 gold a pop.

If you haven't yet, do the "Wine Wars" quest chain. It's long as fuck, but you'll make upwards of 3,000 gold if you take it all the way.
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Witcher 3 is for people who like cinematic with poor gameplay and no RPG elements.

It's just a hack and slash adventure.
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>>339776474
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>>339776789
The prologue is kinda boring, it gets more interesting when chapter 1 starts
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>>339775941

TW3 threads are always fucking horrible because shitposters can't stop shitposting

it's one of the few and rare instances where i actually prefer discussing something on reddit instead, they tend to be overwhelmingly positive about things, but /v/ is sometimes worse in how negative and cynical it can be
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I hope there's a mod to remove the hood from Grandmaster Feline Armor soon, it looks dumb as shit
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>>339777747
>Not using based Manticore Armor with Euphoria mutation for 200% attack power and sign intensity
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>>339777889
That's what I plan to do once I save up enough crowns to buy all those dimeritium plates
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Can you pet the cats and dogs in TW3?
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>>339778046
Cats hate witchers. They will hiss at you.
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>>339777889
Not him, but this made me curious, how the fuck does that scale with Symbiosis? Sounds OP as fuck.
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>>339770796
because witcher game or series without geralt is fucking garbage
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>>339777889
>200% attack power and sign intensity
Living on an easy mode, eh?
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>>339778036
It honestly might need a nerf.

Acquired Tolerance + Heightened Tolerance + Manticore Armor + Euphoria is busted as hell. Running 3 decoctions, Thunderbolt, Full Moon, and Tawny Owl at that point makes you literally the God of witchers.
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>>339778267
>Witcher will never be online so all those cool builds will never be challenged in PvP
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>>339778267
See
>>339778429

I'm running synergy right now. It's busted as fuck.
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>>339778384
I'd play a prequel about Ciri traveling between worlds.
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>>339778576
It wouldn't be Witcher, but "Planehopper" or something.
Might be cool though.
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>>339778481
This made me think, wither storymode co-op may never work, but we could at least have some sort of duel/arena mode work. And/or Gwent multiplayer.

I honestly don't care about either of these, I like singleplayer the most, but still, it sounds feasible.
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>>339778395
Just working with the tools they gave me.

CDPR just further cementing alchemy as the clearly best tree.
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>>339778978
I thought about Witcher co-op. What if your co-op partner showed up to you as Lambert, but to him he's Geralt and you're Lambert?
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>>339777571

Hey my man, do you have the tesham mutna mask?

Try that on with black armor dye for your set, it will look fucking amazing.
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>>339779190
A vast majority of scripting wouldn't allow it, or take a tremendous amount of work to enable.

Take something as simple as transitioning from gameplay to cutscene, even if you were to completely ignore the co-op partner you'd still have to place him somewhere after the cutscene has ended, especially if you're moving to an entirely different area or god forbid, a new map.

Not to mention a lot of other conflicts that come to mind as I type this, like, what if your partner entered a quest area on his own without the host? Or what if the host dies?, etc etc.
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>>339777571
man fuck I kinda want them to release a PC only patch that removes the LOD limitations
modders not being able to fuck with it is so incredibly gay
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>>339779686
http://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/mods/949/?

>>339779471
No I don't have that mask yet, I've not yet completed Blood & Wine. I'm taking my sweet time savoring every moment. I only got the basic masks from other quest lines, stuff like the glasses, wolf mask, etc.
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>Geralt fights some bandits or a panther or a succubus
>"Ugh, that stench..."
>"Ugly bastard."
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>>339780346
that mod doesn't actually increase LOD at all in the comparisons
at least no in buildings, where it's needed
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>>339780346

looks like this

just curious how it looks with the hood, is all
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>>339769268
my nigga. FO4 has better gameplay, level design, exploration, character progression...
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>>339773971
Didn't he leave Idtech already because it was bullshit workign with them?
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>>339780657
In comparison, both this mask, and the other 'silver' mask and the Wolf mask, all of them including the glasses from HoS simply disables the hood.

Nothing too exiting really.
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>>339780520
I've been looking for this picture FOREVER
THANK YOU SO MUCH
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Why do /v/ always shit themselves over games like Stalker and Witcher?
Are slavs the majority in this shithole??
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Don't make the grandmaster feline armour guys, it has a hood. I repeat, it has a hood.
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>>339781095
Nah but slav games usually have heart to them. They have major flaws but you can sense the dedication put into them. That's why people gravitate toward slav games.
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