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this kills the nvidia
>crossfire
>any moment in the universe's infinite timeline
Not now, not tomorrow, not 30 years ago, and certainly not 5 days from now. Dual gpu solutions are a blight on humanity and need to be cleansed with fire. Die heathen.
>amd fags clinging to hope
One month, m8. I cannot fucking wait.
>>339768721
I can't wait to play Shadow Warrior 2 and No Man's Sky with this.
>>339768269
with vulkan/dx12 dual gpu will actually not be shit
>>339768269
I think the point they are trying to make is that the 480 has an amazing value for what it offers, it goes without saying that using dual mid-end cards is a bad idea
Until Nvidia announces the 1080ti the following month.
And then AMD puts some other thing out after that.
We've seen this a million fucking times before, just buy a card and be done with it.
>>339768721
June 29th
Yup, this will be my next card. Should be enough for 1080p.
SHOW
THE
FUCKING
BENCHMARKS
Didn't they say that it would be $200?
Or is that just the reference card
>>339769236
This
480 is the new indisputed king of 1080p, 1070 and 1080 are for 1440p
>>339768269
This. My buddy bought two cards to crossfire. 9 out of 10 times he has to turn it off to make it run better
>>339769332
They said it starts at 199, probably the 4GB version. The 8GB version is most likely like 20 bucks more expensive.
>>339769332
199 for 4gb, 239 for 8gb
>>339767907
>2X the tdp
>half the performance
BUT IT'S CHEAPER
Poverty: the card.
>>339769036
Enjoy the widespread development of games that use either in about 3-5 years.
Meanwhile your underpowered card is going to be a white elephant waiting to be good while Nvidiafriends enjoy excellent funtimes.
>>339769036
>with vulkan/dx12 dual gpu will actually not be shit
Even the new rendering techniques offered by vulkan and DX12 doesn't change the fact that compatibility is required at driver level for each new game that comes out.
![AMD-Radeon-R9-480-3DMark11-Performance[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/tfNX7VS.png "AMD-Radeon-R9-480-3DMark11-Performance[1]")
>>339769279
>>339769473
>Those prices
How do you think it'll match up for vr against nvidia?
>Inb4 le vr is meme xdddd
>>339769508
>200 dollar card is almost even with a 700 dollar card
AMD won again, didn't they? Like a broken record.
>>339769279
Show them with tesselation turned off too.
>>339769508
>2 cards still weaker than 1
>AMDrones crow about this garbage
Post frametimes too pajeet
>>339769490
>Nvidiafriends enjoy excellent funtimes
>>339769508
>3D mark
wow who cares
>>339767907
>amd fags think VR has any future whatsoever
>amd fags cant handle the perfect bang for buck of the gtx970
>>339769580
I think you mean 2 $200 cards. Don't forget to mention frametimes and excellent dual gpu microstutter and no CF profiles out for old games meaning you get the excellent advantage of literally half the performance or shit not even working correctly.
>gtx 980/r9 390 tier GPU
>$199
>150 watt usage a single 6 pin connection
THE NEW 750TI ON CRACK LADS.THE VALUE/FRAMES PER $ IS INSANE. NVIDIA BTFO.
>>339769860
This. AMD is absolute madman.
>>339769776
NVIDIAFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>339769974
>Crossfire
>>339769860
>single 6 pin connection
Having more connectors feels and looks more badass in my opinion, I never asked for low power consumption, fuck you AMD
>>339769776
nice biased benchmark familia
All this crap is faked. Watch the driver support make these "benchmark results" take a plunge.
>>339767907
Whats that, you use Radeon ? You are also a Vegan ? And you do Crossfit ? Wow bro, you are so out there
>>339769776
Fun fact: It was confirmed that the AMD cards were running on lower graphics settings.
>>339769776
>1 game that nobody plays
>>339770050
oh don't worry nvidia is paying devs to install gameworks and use dx11 not 12 as we speak. they are afraid
>>339770031
its ok when nvidia does it
>>339769490
3 Nvidia™ credits have been added to your account. Thank you for providing such a valuable advertisement service!
>>339770134
Actually it was the 1080 that struggled to render the shaders / lower looking graphics
http://videocardz.com/60860/amd-explains-image-quality-in-aots-radeon-rx-480-cf-vs-gtx-1080-demonstration
Blown the fuck out but keep grasping at straws nvidiacuck
>>339770050
>buying nvidia
>>339770202
no one said this was ok
you shouldn't trust benchmarks directly from manufacturers unless you're retarded
>>339769776
>AMD lies
Here's the actual benchmarks straight from the Ashes website with the 1080 scoring higher.
http://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/personas/b0db0294-8cab-4399-8815-f956a670b68f/match-details/ac88258f-4541-408e-8234-f9e96febe303
http://www.ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/personas/b0db0294-8cab-4399-8815-f956a670b68f/match-details/d80e73ae-e7ed-46e9-9b73-551276ac8a16
>yfw you didn't fall for AMD lies
>>339770134
A lie is not gona save you. Check >>339770254
>>339770159
>Nvidia tells devs what to do meme!
Nobody uses DX 12 because it's Windows 10 only, that and you basically have to throw out 5+ years of work or use a new engine + port all your assets onto it.
They'll use DX11 because it takes less work and Consoletards can't tell the difference considering they buy CoD: Rehash 24/7 and still get fooled by Naughty Dog/Sony bullshots.
>>339770254
Nvidia is on the right retard. AMD is missing shadows and other effects.
>>339770134
Actually it was confirmed that Nvidia cards didn't want to render some shit because of driver and had less work. The meme is entirely because retards thinks that more snow = lower details.
>>339769776
It's going to be hilarious when AMD is still clinging to Ashes of the Singularity in 5 years.
>>339770257
>tfw building a new PC soon
>trying not to get jewed
>always been an AMD Boi
>might just go for the 1070
what'll be the AMD equivalent?
nvidia...had a hard life.
>>339770415
480, and it's half the price
>>339769582
>Turn the graphics down so my AMD trash can compete
Loving every laugh, m8.
Apart from price is the AMD experience any different from Nvidia?
>>339770460
but you'll have to buy two, or is that just for the 1080
>>339770506
You wont get jewed and your card wont get gimped when newer cards come out.
>>339770506
You get to wait 6 months for a driver to fix the problems with 99% of releases.
But hey at least you can plays Ashes and Hitman.
>>339770373
I can see shadows in both of those blurry screencaps
>>339770373
The graphics settings aren't the problem. The problem is with the benchmark itself. Every time you run the benchmark, the terrain is procedural. This is why you see different shadows and shit because the right side has more raised up terrain as hills in certain areas unlike the left side.
>>339770506
Shittier drivers, poor game optimization, and higher temperatures. But it's okay because you save money!
>>339770556
just for the 1080
>people arguing over ashes of the singularity benchmarks
>people thinking ashes of the singularity benchmarks, dx12, or async compute matter
"our new flagship is half as fast as their new flagship! just buy two!" is not a viable business plan
>>339770373
from the article:
At present the GTX 1080 is incorrectly executing the terrain shaders responsible for populating the environment with the appropriate amount of snow. The GTX 1080 is doing less work to render AOTS than it otherwise would if the shader were being run properly. Snow is somewhat flat and boring in color compared to shiny rocks, which gives the illusion that less is being rendered, but this is an incorrect interpretation of how the terrain shaders are functioning in this title.
The content being rendered by the RX 480--the one with greater snow coverage in the side-by-side (the left in these images)--is the correct execution of the terrain shaders.
So, even with fudgy image quality on the GTX 1080 that could improve their performance a few percent, dual RX 480 still came out ahead.
Again blown the fuck out
>>339770556
What? If you use crossfire, you get more than 1080 performance, at almost half the price.
If you buy 1 480,you'll get almost 1070 performance at half the 1070 price
>>339770626
I can't wait to enjoy these terrible games.
Thanks AMD, always thinking of us gamers.
I think it's funny that /v/ and /g/ are such AMD fanboys.
>>339770697
480 isn't the flagship, you dumb nigger
>>339770697
It's not their flagship retard. It's literally 200 dollars poorman card. Vega is flagship.
>>339770687
>>339770732
i appreciate the info anons, thanks alot
>>339770506
Its not "The way you're meant to be played".
>>339770720
>hey guys Nvidia isn't rendering right on this cherry picked benchmark. Buy our card!
All you have to look at is TFLOPS
>>339770829
>>339770857
okay that's a distinction that you make. now let's see what joe consumer says
"hmm, that's weird, AMD only has these way slower cards on the market"
>>339770697
The fact that AMD's R480X @ $199 is 90% or equal to a GTX 1070 for $379 should have you thinking why you overpay for Nvidia products anon.
As well as crossfire beating 1080 for $250 less.
Vega is coming and it will kill nvidias enthusiast cards just like the 480x has blown the fuck out of every nvidia 9xx series and the 1070
>>339770829
name a faster card in the AMD stable.
Oh wait there are none, also it's not even out yet because once it's out the real world benchmarks are going to shit all over it.
>>339770720
post frametimes pajeet
Yeah I'll wait for benchmarks other than fucking Memes of Singularity
>>339770945
>is 90% or equal
Benchmarks when?
>Pulling shit out of your cunt.
>>339770973
>AOS
>A real RTS hardware intensive benchmark
>Nvidia can't keep up
>B-but we win in this DX11 game you can play on a toaster! Look 200 fps!
lmfao I'm dying
Is Ashes of the Singularity a real game? Or is it just a benchmark whore?
When the dust settles, let's all admit it was never good from the start.
If AMD's cards are so good, why is the company dying?
>>339769413
I am that buddy
http://videocardz.com/60561/amd-shows-off-radeon-rx-480-running-doom-at-1440p144hz
nvidia cucks, they are worried. scared.
Guys I need a new GPU and my local store has a GTX 1080 Founders Edition in stock, only one left.
Should I do it?
I know it's inferior to AIB coolers and whatnot.
>>339770415
Hold off until E3 since AMD should be making more card announcements at PC Gamer Show
ITT: If you want to play Ashes of Singularity, Hitman and Tomb Raider buy 2 AMD cards and enjoy your housefires.
Otherwise the only right choice is Nvidia
t. I own a R9 280x and a GTX 970
One caused the plaster in my home to crack, and sounds like a vaccuum cleaner 24/7. One barely emits heat and is quiet as a mouse.
Please never buy AMD memes unless you enjoy these terrible things. Performance is not the be all and end all.
>inb4 my card doesn't get over 60c memes
Yeah the heat is pumped out into your fucking room so it's still a space heater with the added bonus of sounding like a wind tunnel.
>>339771226
Nvidia has one of the best marketing teams ever seen
>>339771261
>on medium
>>339770954
5 Nvidia™ credits have been added to your Nvidia™ account. Don't forget you can buy Razer™ products with them!
How much $?
>>339771270
>buying founders edition trash
wait for vega or at the very least the normal release for nvidias trash
>>339771270
no, wait for the aftermarket coolers
yikes the delusion in this thread, wanting nvidia to lose so bad against all reality
you guys realize that nvidias engineering budget is literally like 10 times that of AMDs, right?
>>339771226
NVIDIA has a slicker and better-funded advertising department.As well as more subtle viral marketing.
>>339770670
Nice memes.
>>339771282
>Unironically implying nvidia cards dont overheat like fucking crazy
>>339771329
max settings my friend.
>>339771282
>280x
>970
No wonder your shit melts, you only buy shitty memecards
>>339771270
Do it if youre idiot who cant wait for a better product.
>>339767907
cope the post
>>339770257
DELETTE THIS
>>339771474
>>339771329
>tfw can't trust either of these claims because the source doesn't say what the settings were
>>339771374
I own both Nvidia and AMD cards on two different systems.
Dual GPU solutions are always terrible and the frametimes on CF have historically been laughable.
>>339770415
Unless you absolutely need to build it right now I'd at least wait until we find more about Vega, because that'll be the 1070/1080 competitor. Also keep in mind that based on what we know right now it looks like the 1070 only performs around 15% better than the 480 for almost double the cost
>>339771326
>>339771414
>AMD can be killed by a marketing department
also, we have this new Zen CPU we swear! We can't show any demos yet though!
So, let me get this straight;
- 1 GTX 1080 @ 599.99
- 1 GTX 1070 @ 379.99
- 1 AMD R9 480 @ 199.99 - 249.99 (RAM)
- 2 AMD R9 480 @ 399.99 - 449.99 (RAM)
- GTX 1080 does not do 4K @ 60fps, meaning it is NOT a 4K card as a single GPU.
Why in the fuck would you buy this over the 1070?
- GTX 1070 can run all games at 1440p far above 60fps.
Why the fuck are not getting this one, are you retarded?
- AMD R9 480 as a single card is around the 980(ti?) with a huge efficiency buff on the watts.
Great fucking buy if you're...
A. Just getting into the PC gaming market
B. Upgrading on a budget
C. Play on a 1080p monitor
This is the new fucking entry level card. Nothing beats this in terms of price.
- 2 AMD R9 480 are close (if not equal) to a GTX 1080
Again, why the fuck are you buying this shit over the GTX 1070?
1, SLI/Crossfire is a NO!
2, Nether the 480 or the 1080 can do 4K on the latest games at 60fps.
TL:DR: Buy a 1070 and wait for the REAL 4K Card. Don't buy anything. Or... if you just getting into PC gaming or a poorfag, buy the 480.
/Thread
>>339767907
what the fuck does TFLOPS mean? ive seen it so much lately
How about you not be poor, and just buy the most expensive card you can at the time of build
>>339771412
Really? Because the GTX 1080 is literally a high clocked die shrink.
Their engineering is trash, their marketing is good. That's it.
>>339771282
>280x
>970
No wonder your shit melts, you only buy shitty memecards
Even fucking Nvidia cards heat up a lot, mine sometimes reaches 80°C in some games, I'm going to get the R9 480 as soon as I can because Nvidia as extensively gimped the 700 series, and AMD doesn't do that shit
>>339771581
>Also keep in mind that based on what we know right now it looks like the 1070 only performs around 15% better than the 480 for almost double the cost
lol where are you guys getting this shit?
don't get suckered in by people saying shit like this, if amd had this much performance for price compared to nvidia part it would be the greatest slam dunk against nvidia in history. its not happening
you guys are literally living a fantasy about video card companies? why do you automatically hate whoever is winning so badly?
>>339771586
>AMD can be killed by a marketing department
Works pretty well for Apple to keep people buying their shit.
NVIDIA SPECIAL SHOW MAY 5-6/2016
HIGHLIGHTS OF THE SHOW:
1. NVIDIA ANSEL
3D screenshots and Super-Hi-Res screenshots capability
Comes to 1000s series with launch, comes to 9xx series later this year. Free, with drivers.
2. PHYSICAL-BASED VIRTUAL SOUND
3. GTX 1070 AND 1080 ANNOUNCED
4. SINGLE PASS MULTI-PROJECTIONS FOR MULTI-MONITOR SETUP (for any 1000s card, free with drivers)
5. SINGLE-PASS STEREO FOR VR (free, comes with driver for 1000s)
AMD COMPUTEX 2016 SHOW
HIGHLIGHTS OF THE SHOW:
1. RADEON 480X ANNOUNCED
------
Damn, Nvidia sure got just told, kek.
>but... but! look at the benchs!
Sure I did, see picrelated.
>amd
>>339770938
The average person is stupid but they're not that stupid.
>weaker but cheaper card
>stronger but more expensive card
Both are competitive
>>339771593
tera (multiplied by 10^12) floating point operations per second
>>339769580
>crossfire
Call me when it's one card.
But are the drivers fixed yet
I've been waiting for OpenGL to be fixed for over 2 years now
>>339771691
>Apple doesn't make the best hardware in the industry
>>339771592
>j-just buy a 1070, the 480 is shit
lmfao. the 480 is the new 1080p king.
Why would I pay $200 more for a 1070 that does the same shit? Inb4 drivers lmao
>>339770362
>Nvidia literally holding graphics advancement back
>Cucks find a way to defend this
Console tier users, it's like pottery
>>339771592
>- 1 GTX 1080 @ 599.99
>- 1 GTX 1070 @ 379.99
Good fucking luck.
>>339770938
"Hmm, that's weird, Honda has only these way slower cars on the market."
>>339771657
>they're memecards
I got the 280x for $200 last year just before rebrandeon did their useless rebranding.
970 maxes everything @ 1080p over 60fps.
>Even nvidia cards heat up a lot
They may get hot, but they produce less heat because they draw less power moron.
The chip getting 'hotter' doesn't change the fact that more power draw= more heat produced automatically.
>>339771814
Don't you mean lack of competition holding graphics advancement back.
When the fuck will we see benchmarks?
Why do they lie about the card prices?
>>339771808
>Why would I pay $200 more for a 1070 that does the same shit?
get 1060 in 6 months
>$200
>budget card
kek
>>339771692
>$199 card gets 60-70% the frames of a $700 card
lmfao nvidia cucks are this stupid.
2 x 93 fps beats the 1080 for $250 less. Get cucked.
>>339771592
what about ultrawide monitors?
>>339771692
Yeah yeah, keep shilling, you'll sure make a lot of money. You post this shit every goddamn Nvidia vs AMD thread
>amd announces brand new card
>even 2x of these cannot compete with one 599 card
what a fucking failure
as usual
>>339771592
>- GTX 1070 can run all games at 1440p far above 60fps.
Mate...
>>339771657
>nvidia cards can heat up alot
Protip: Card gets hot, room stays cool with Nvidia, With AMD, Card gets hot, room stays hot + permanent hearing loss from living in a wind tunnel.
>>339770798
what is going on here
>>339770798
Are you kidding? 4chan as a whole is like NVidiaGAF.
>>339771789
Vulkan my friend
>>339772016
>A game that is literally broken
>>339771592
>- GTX 1070 can run all games at 1440p far above 60fps.
Ugh.
>>339772029
Audiophile reviewing a really shitty really expensive pair of headphones.
>>339772015
>nvidiacucks into reading comprehension
amd wins mate everywhere is reporting this
>>339772016
Drivers to optimize not out yet m8.
Also please post games/benchmarks with games people actually play.
>>339768930
can't tell if happy hyped anon or sarcastic fuck, but both games are looking pretty fun
>>339772119
this denial
>>339770798
amdcuck_enjoys_his_new-card.webm
>>339772139
>Titan X 25% faster than a 1080
Gee, its almost like Nvidia lied about 2X FASTER THAN A TITAN
>>339771592
>- GTX 1070 can run all games at 1440p far above 60fps.
We need to talk.
>>339767907
Why are they still using that type of cooling system? It's complete shit and the first thing people do is tear it out for a better one.
I want Amada-chan to set my house on fire!
>>339771808
Can you fucking read? I said the 480 is a 1080p you moron. I said it's a power saver. I said it's the new entry level piece of gaming hardware that people on a budget should go for. Reading comprehension, go get some.
The 1070 does 1440p, not 1080p. Fucking idiot.
>>339772028
What the fuck is this nonsensical shilling?
It's not like I live in fucking Africa where summers are 50°C
>>339772028
Spoken like someone who's never used AMD. My card is almost completely silent and the room is freezing.
>jpg
my fucking eyes
>>339772230
Because blower fans work the same regardless of how bad the airflow in your case is. A blower fan can actually be superior to a large, open heatsink if your case has bad ventilation.
lol no it doesnt stop shilling you kike amd will never beat nvidia idk why you bother unless this is a shitpost but even then its a bit of stretch desu lol laughing crying emoji :)
>>339772252
>The 1070 does 1440p
>he thinks that card does 1440p
no anon you need to buy our 1080 product for that ;)
j-just ignore that Vega product over there offering the same for $300 less... hehehe
>>339769776
there is a catch here, 1080 has the same performance both in DX11 and DX12, while the 480 runs like ass in DX11 where most games uses this
>>339772230
It's just a reference card anon, I know Gigabyte for instance use that sort of fan config on their AMD GPUs.
>fighting over gddr5 cards still
HBM soon
>>339772263
>nonsensical shilling
Oh look he doesn't like facts.
Nvidia users would buy Macs if they could play games.
>>339769413
Which is why you don't go full retard and buy into AMD.
My dual 980s are always in SLI with no issues.
Ordered a 1080 FE today :^)
How's it feel poorfags?
>>339772029
it sounds like shit
>>339772414
GDDR5 isn't GDDR5X
Admit it. They won.
>>339772417
Sick 10 FPS jump. This is the new age boys.
>>339769073
>1080ti
Not until Vega is announced. Expect the 1060.
>>339772518
m8 I'm poor as fuck and I can still blow that amount on a card
>>339772518
I sure hope you have a 4k monitor or else that shit's fucking wasted
>>339772482
That bullshit you pulled out of your ass aren't facts, Pajeet. My AMD card runs cool and quiet at all times.
>>339772504
Macbook pro specs
kek
>>339772252
You need to put down the pork shoulder and look at what the 480 can do. It's as powerful as a 390X which can handle 1440p.
>>339772626
>titan x 1500
>1 in 1000 card
>>339771690
>why do you automatically hate whoever is winning so badly?
nobody is hating on AMD
>>339772676
holy fuck these threads are confusing
can a 1070 do 1440 at 60 fps or not ***on max settings
>>339772670
but Nvidia just werks and has good drivers and is hassle free, plus I'm willing to pay for quality!
>>339770202
I like this graph
AAAAAAAAAAA DO I BUY THE R480X OR THE GTX 1070 HELP.
THIS IS FOR TWO 16:9 22 INCH LED 60HZ HDMI MONITORS.
>>339770954
They did. >>339769776
Guy shooting = Nvidia
Basket = Total market control
Giant broccoli = AMD
>>339769352
How is that even necessary? A current gen card can hold 1080p60fps just fine
So what can you run on it without crossfire then?
>>339772339
That would be great if the card wasn't constantly overheating with it.
>>339772783
>can a 1070 do 1440 at 60 fps or not ***on max settings
Unless these guys work for NVidia and are shilling shit, no. But if not, then yes it can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkiZdSBux9E
>>339772837
>no frame times
>they did
No
>>339772252
>The 1070 does 1440p
No its not.
>>339772849
>broccoli
>>339772908
Its not, it hits 80C and sits there like its designed to.
>>339772892
if we were just alking about necessary for 1080p Nvidia would go out of business because a 3GB GTX 580 would still run everything
>>339772849
>giant broccoli
Fuck
>>339772926
I love you anon!
>tfw poor fag
>tfw been waiting awhile to finally put together a rig
So will the meme of actual decent rigs for $500 become a reality?
>>339772849
>Giant broccoli
Currently have 1200p but still getting the G1 1080. Couldn't give a fuck lads
Ill give AMD this, their reference cards look 100x better than the shit Nvidia makes.
I really don't know what I want to get. I still use a 7850 and it's been working fine, but I got a 1440p monitor and really need a better card.
The 480x 8gb seems it would be a good upgrade for a reasonable cost since I've found I prefer AMD and they tend to last longer and have less issues.
The extra power on the 1070 seems nice, but probably not worth the cost jump.
>>339772834
480x. Not the 480.
>>339770954
>name a faster card in the AMD stable.
Fury, Fury X, 295X2, Pro Duo.
>>339773083
I'm upgrading to 480 from 7870. Much worth it.
>>339772834
1070 is a safer bet.
>>339772971
Sadly by limiting itself. I get a lot of 'stutter' in some games.
>>339772518
>FE
kek
>>339772940
My mistake, I misread as framerates.
>>339772834
Jesus just wait until the 480 benchmarks are out
>>339773213
I will be going from a 6970 to a 480. The hype is real. Plus I just got an i5 6600k a new mobo and ram.
>>339772834
Ive heard that we will get benches in two weeks.
All bullshit aside. What happened to the whole HBM thing? They didn't mention it once in their keynote and this was supposed to be AMD's big thing. Just wondering what happened to it.
So right now I'm thinking I'll get an RX480. I only have a 1080p monitor.
At the moment I only have a 650 Ti. Only ever used this card so no experience with AMD stuff. The 480 looks like really good cost/performance.
Is the AMD driver/overheating stuff really bad or is it just memes?Where can I go to find a non-meme answer cause honestly I don't trust anything I read on this board.
Is it worth it to go for 8GB instead of 4?
>>339770257
>Zotac cards
Holy fuck AMD is desperate to try to look good even in a game that they used low settings vs nvidia's high settings in a game that no one gives a shit about.
My advice for all you considering buying a new card is to just wait until the next one comes out.
>>339773428
Limited supply, it's a waiting game
>>339773428
>What happened to the whole HBM thing?
Not a viable option for a midrange card if they were trying to hit $200
>>339773482
Memes based on old shit. Same for drivers. And yes go 8gb over 4 gb.
>>339773248
With a 1080/1070? Bullshit.
>>339769776
>ashes of the singularity
>unbiased benchmark
keep clinging on to your garbage amd gimpuopen game the same way geforce drones hold on to the witcher with gimpworks... only difference is the witcher is actually a fun game people want to play
>>339770412
very much friendo
>>339773179
>Fury meme
>Fury X meme
Cool memes
>295 x 2
>Pro duo
Cool 2 cards pretending to be one
>>339773428
Vega's gonna have HBM2 in just a year
>>339773508
>loud
>poor
>>339770021
Non-OEM manufacturers will more than likely make versions that have two 6-pin connections for more overclocking headroom, which isn't uncommon. I recall already seeing a 1080 from Zotac that had this.
>>339773508
That's not what the companies or politicians are like though.
>>339773660
>Cats
>Higher intelligence than dogs
Fucking Cat shills trying to bring down dogs, bet the benchmark you fucks used was synthetic.
>>339773687
>In just a year
Sausage AMD, wait wait wait wait wait wait and never deliver.
>>339772834
Nvidia has superior multimonitor features with the 1070-1080. It allows you to angle your monitors while unwarping the image for you as well as improving performance.
>>339773482
>Is the AMD driver/overheating stuff really bad or is it just memes?
Some shit simply stops working out of nowhere so you have to rollback your drivers, happens to me like once a year. The overheating is a meme.
>Is it worth it to go for 8GB instead of 4?
8GB is the only answer, 4 is starting to not be enough because devs wont optimize for shit.
>>339772902
Its supposedly between 980 and fury so its better than 390x for comparison
>>339772114
If I'm playing an older game that uses an old version of OpenGL that newer (April 2014+) AMD drivers no longer support that cause graphical issues, How does this help me?
>>339773804
It's not like it's always been this way, AMD only recently went down the shitter and we're just hoping they recover.
>>339773921
Source?
>>339768721
Yeah it's gonna be great seeing AMD fanboys get their hopes shattered and resort to screaming that Nvidia gimps games instead of acknowledging they just bought another shitty graphics card.
>>339767907
My first gaming GPU was a Sapphire R9 290 and it was broken out of the box
I fought customer service and returned it and bought a GTX 970.
AMD - Not even once.
>>339773660
Kittens>puppies in d'aww factor but they're equal when adults.
Only meme breeds of dogs can't BTFO cats in intelligence. It's not even a contest.
>>339773435
Linus is a professional shill.
>>339773980
>4 is starting to not be enough because devs wont optimize for shit.
>tfw only 3.5 gb
>>339769413
Had 2 750's in SLI. God Awful microstuttering.
>>339773482
>Is the AMD driver/overheating stuff really bad or is it just memes?
Drivers were bad for a period, but so was Nvidia's recently. Both companies have had multiple rough patches during their history, it's always good to keep up with driver news before you update just in case, but things seem to be okay for both right now.
AMD's reference coolers weren't enough to handle the 290/290X, but they stepped up to liquid cooling for the 295X2 and FuryX. Now that they're moving to 14nm, heat issues aren't as likely to be a big problem. Certainly not for a midrange card like the 480. Still possible, though, as the NVTTM cooler on the 1080 has shown.
Basically, thermal throttling is mostly a high-end GPU issue can be pretty much avoided by just buying any decent non-reference-cooled card.
>>339774104
Sonyggers have a lot in common with your bitching and lying
>>339773774
Eat my dick, dognigger, call me when your pet can jump higher than a refrigerator and always land on their feet when falling.
Oh wait, they won't, it'll take them at least a few hundred years to evolve that way even with extensive artificial selection. Get fucked.
>>339772926
>LTT
>not shilling for Nvidia
>>339774230
750 can't SLI.
>>339774156
>Things that never happened for $200, Alex..
I currently have a Geeforce 760 and play at 1080p
I play games like Warhammer Total War, Overwatch and Attila on my PC, and will probably pick up Battlefield 1 when its out, most seem okay and steady at 30fps and high settings
Would upgrading to this Radeon RX 480 make any worthwhile improvements?
>>339774352
>bitching
I'm not bitching I'm genuinely excited to see your dreams crushed yet again and pull out every excuse possible for falling for AMD's shit yet again.
>>339774164
He is a dumb label reader.
He doesn't know even basic physics, math, or coding.
He doesn't have, and never had, a legit tech job.
He doesn't have any tech related degree/diploma/course certification.
His Linkedin is full of management bullshit, swimming instructor, and boyscout.
Yet in spite of all of this he acts as if he knows anything, and as if he represents the tech collective.
He is a fucking marketer. His hardware reviews are about as informative as reading the fucking PDF.
The average Joe is more likely to get fucked over by listening to his idiocy.
His "humor" is 9gag level.
He is so fucking tech illiterate that he had to employ a special writer for his TechQuickie channel because he's too stupid himself.
The same faggot who tried to push a spiritual book as a solution for Carpal Tunnel or something.
His group is a marketing group, not a tech group.
He had to Internet beg for money in order to move to an office, which he managed to get ripped off on because he is a dumb faggot (admits it).
A fucking hotel cleaner in Las Vegas who gets paid on average $2400-$2700 a month can sooner or later afford what Linus has to beg for on the Internet, or beg to the manufacturers and labels.
He depends on his wife's BJ income, and she looks like those roach monsters from Terra Formars (pic related).
He pays his faggot employees minimum wage [admitted in the WAN show discussion between him and Luke], his ad revenue has halved in the meantime, and YT revenue is shit in the first place.
If you want computer case angles and proper feature description with objective reviews, you watch those faggots HardwareCanucks, who even go as far as reviewing fucking dust filters.
If you want to post on-topic /v/ related YouTubers, you post people who actually have tech jobs, tech education, and practical application; like Wendell from TekShitdictate, or Louis Rossman for board repair and reading blueprints.
>>339773674
>read real answers to a question
>MEMES
Cool, but it doesn't make the 480 the most powerful card in AMD's stable, as you put it.
>>339774480
It will be twice as fast as your current card. Maybe a bit more.
This kills the Intel
>>339767907
>TFlops
Wew, remember that other powerful piece of hardware that advertised itself with flops so their retarded fanbase have some numbers to spew around?
>>339774210
>he bought a 970
>>339773508
>effecient
Why does all the trump propaganda I see posted around the internet always have the worst spelling and grammar?
>>339774480
I would want more frames, and it would be good for battlefield I imagine. It's a good upgrade. If you aren't in a hurry wait for the 1060 and benchmarks.
>>339767907
Maybe when they offer real customer support they'll be able to overtake nvidia.
>>339767907
Is it better then the 960? It's $14 cheaper.
>>339774791
....I think you can probably figure out why
>>339774857
yes.
>>339774054
First video i found on youtube
https://youtu.be/cFMQ5MQb6rY
Skip to 2:25 for relevant info.
Also apparantly you can take screenshots with 61440 x 34560 resolution for vr
>>339773687
>in just a year
I thought it was like 5 or 6 months
>>339774543
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=dumb+label+reader
We get it.
Let me guys remind you that nvidia is the cancer of PC gaming atm.
Did you remember how badly Battleborn fail? One of the problems was performance issues. Some of those performance issues derive from the facts that they uses nvidia gameworks to add physx effects on the game, so it's sort of "nvidia game" in that regard. Remember all the Project Cars and Witcher 3 Nvidia fiasco? Same thing, games using Nvidia tech to secure lead of newest nvidia cards on newest games (by adding stuff to games that will slow AMD cards / 600-700series Nvidia cards).
What happened in battleborn howerver is that some people, even with the newer cards like 980, had problem running the game with stable 60 fps.
There's a very very good video that says everything about this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7fA_JC_R5s
Solution? Boycott nvidia for these manipulative market practices. Don't buy their cards anymore, we have AMD GPUs (which are more on part with nvidia's GPUs than they're with IIntel's CPUs imo) that should be very good alternative. Buy Polaris, DO NOT buy Pascal.
>>339775102
>Battleborn
LITERALLY
WHO
CARES
>>339775053
Vega's in 2017
In 5 or 6 months we're gonna have Zen.
Did I fuck up buying a GTX 960 2 GB earlier this year?
Looking at the perfomance benchmarks of the new Polaris makes me go pic related
Please, be serious
I don't get the appeal of the GTX 1070 and GTX 1080. They're absurdly, out-of-this-world overpowered for playing games at 1080p 60fps.
According to steam the hardware survey, only 3-4% of users play at resolutions higher than 1080p. The R9 480 is the perfect card for 1080p gaming.
>>339774480
You'll likely double your fps on all those games with a 480
>>339774475
k poorfag
>>339775168
In 5 or 6 months it's 2017
>>339773530
>in a game that no one gives a shit about.
Holy shit you're quite possibly the biggest newfag I've ever seen and trust me buddy considering that I've been here since 2013 I've seen a fuckload of them lately. Kill yourself.
>>339775102
>I'm too stupid to turn useless PhysX off so I should completely boycott the company
You sound like the prototypical millennial. Blaming others for your stupidity and problems.
>>339775173
480 is almost certainly better than the 960.
If you can't return it just try to sell it off on craigslist
>>339775185
>They're absurdly, out-of-this-world overpowered for playing games at 1080p 60fps
Because they're for 1440p and 144hz monitors.
>>339775173
Maybe you can still sell them to a retard, senpai
>>339775227
Anecdotal evidence proves nothing, sorry.
Also if anything that speaks bad about Sapphire, not about AMD
>>339775302
I have 670 GTX, I can turn the physx effects lower on games. But what i can't turn down is the code that's written in other effects / how some other stuff is implemented. One example is tesselation, you can tone it down on AMD cards so AMD cards can run better on games that are heavy on it. On Nvidia cards (emphasis on older cards, they lack it more than newer), you cannot turn tesselation down in anywhere of the geforce control panel. Some very rare games offer option to turn it down in-game, but those are few and far between.
>>339775318
Altough, being honest, the 960 has been a damn good card, and it is also my first dedicated GPU ever!
too bad NVIDIA drivers never get to update
>>339775351
>My first gaming GPU was a Sapphire R9 290 and it was broken out of the box
>Things that never happened
>Anecdotal evidence proves nothing
You are braindead, just like AMD's GPUs
You know how Nvidia used to favor their good cards of older generation, like if you bought a x70 or x80 of older generation, it would usually mean that it's better than y50 or y60 of newer generation? With tesselation, that doesn't apply so much anymore. 960GTX is ripping 780 in some games, and that would've never happened before in gpu history of nvidia / amd.
>>339775523
There are usually ini files you can find that setting for buddy, its usually in the documents folder
>>339775102
>First Blizzard
>Now Nvidia
Who killed Battleborn? Was it Jimbo, Chef, Mister Garrison....
>>339767907
This isn't videogames.
>>>/g/
>>339775608
I'm not the same guy, you fucking retard. Your first post was as worthless as the second one, anecdotal evidence proves absolutely nothing
For the most part, I think the big factor for Nvidia vs AMD is seeing which cards handle VR better
>>339775738
The whole battleborn community changed the settings in order to try performance, it didn't help
>>339775779
kill yourself fucking retard
>>339775823
Well sheeit, sucks for you, better start saving dat dough for a sweet new gpu
>>339775995
You fucking dumb shit, OW runs stable 60, and could probably run 120 if I wanted. It's not my settings, it's that Blizzard is not doing business with the shady software corporation called "nvidia".
Seriously watch this video if you're having trouble believing the magnitude of cancer the nvidia is capable of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7fA_JC_R5s
>>339775798
VR's just a memay
I only care about what card will get me more fps at 4k
>the designated shitting street of Nvidia
>>339771592
Good reply, however.
1. The majority of people game on a 1080p monitor and aren't looking to upgrade. The only people that game on 4K are a minority, and even then, 8K is looming around it.
2. The higher the res, the closer you sit to your screen, you would need at least a 27" monitor for 4K and would have to sit close which is a major drawback for competitive games because you need to see the whole screen.
3. Pro gamers and gamers are now starting to care more about input lag and the like, something that not even 1080p are close to fixing with good color calibration. I have yet to see a 144hz, 1080p, IPS, 1msil with no blur.
>>339775350
I'm trying to sell it to some of my brother's friends
I'm selling it keeping at least 2/3 of its original price ($200)
>>339775897
You're the one that thinks anecdotal evidence means anything and I'm the retard? Do yourself a favor and stop posting
>>339776392
I haven't tried whether 4k is good for gaming, but I know for editing photos the or 4k videos, the 4k monitor would probably be god tier over 1080p monitor
what should I get for 1440p gaming?
will it be easy to get csgo and overwatch to 144 fps?
>>339774602
>Fury's are not memes
top keke, not even AMD are acknowledging their existence these days
>>339776660
Yes they are, they're both very well optimized games.
Real question is which 1080 brand? Asus, MSI, Gigabyte?
I've personally been soured by my current AMD card becuase I have to disable 2d mode to make it run right, as was the issue with many R9 cards.
>>339776660
For AAA games 60FPS on max? 1070
For CSGO, OW, LoL and DOTA the 480 seems like a good deal and can probably push 144hz.
r9 490x when?
I want a decent 4k gaymen card
>AMD have been selling the 290x for almost three years now
>MADfags are excited to buy it for the third time
>>339775823
Wow all 3000 of them?
Hey anons, I have a 770 right now. Considering building a new PC, should I go with the 1080 or wait a bit?
>>339776392
>I have yet to see a 144hz, 1080p, IPS, 1msil with no blur.
Aren't some of the newer monitors pretty good? Like Asus ROG PG278Q 27" for example?
>Tfw gpu just died a few days ago
Would have preferred it to be like 5 days from release but shit, 7870 served me well and it seems ill be sticking with amd for a while longer
>>339776923
October, apparently AMD want to launch their enthusiast hardware all at the same time so we'll see 8GB HBM2 Vega cards and 8 core 16 thread Zen chips coming at about the same time.
Which works out perfectly for me because that's about when I'm planning to build a new system.
>>339774367
Tell me next time your cat can escort a blind person safely.
>>339776964
What was "left" of the community were mostly savvy people who knew their ways of .ini's, since it's pretty common knowledge.
>>339777080
if you're playing at 1080p, there's literally no reason to go for the 1070 or 1080. they're made for playing games at 1440p.
>>339777183
What's left of the community are the only retards stupid enough to play a dead Gearbox games
>>339777092
>PC died 2 weeks ago
>ordered a 980
>1080 gets announced
>now AMD release this shit
I fucked up.
Never thought I would say it but I think I'm going to go AMD this time.
Don't get me wrong, my 560ti has done me good for almost 7 years now, but it's time to upgrade. I don't play at stupid high resolutions and I can always use my 560ti for physx or something. But I have no interest in 4k or VR. So AMD has won my money.
>>339777080
Always wait for November. You'll at least have Black Friday deals. Plus right now lack of competition means we haven't seen any price drops yet on the current hardware by then we'll have Polaris cards disrupting the 970s and 980s and probably Vega cards going up against the 1080.
>>339777374
sheeeit
but the 980 is a fucking beast anyway plus you'll be back gaymen within the month as opposed to waiting for release or waiting for outlets to restock after release
>>339776392
>8K is looming around it.
LUL
I doubt I could see the pixels let alone run it within 10 years
20/20 vision is like 60 pixels per degree
>>339777374
can't you just unorder it?
>>339777374
Do you have a 4k or 1440p monitor or are intrested in a $600 VR headset?
If not you're good for the next 2-4 years.
i hate this thread so much
1080 blows AMD out of the water. Literally a thousand times more powerful. AMD is only now getting a 480? Nvidia had a 480 8 years ago.
>>339777116
I thought Vega was in 2017
Oh well, the less waiting the better
Im thinking of getting a 980ti in the meantime but i'll have to resell it since gimping is imminent
nVidiafag here.
As much as I love nVidia performance I fucking DESPISE the bullshit with PhysX, Cuda and all that shit. Fuckheads buy out tech that everyone could enjoy on every platform but nVidia makes it exclusive to their fucking overpriced hardware and fuck everyone over on the visual experience.
It's horse shit.
>>339777848
this
AMDcucks btfo
>>339777698
The big advantage of 8k is that you could have a large format display while still having it be ultra sharp. A 40" 8k display would have a ppi of around 240, sharper than the current crop of 24" 4k displays. That really only matters for desktop use though.
For gaming, its major advantage is that while 4k only supports 2160p, 1080p, and 720p 8k adds both 4320p and 1440p.
>v complains rampantly about Nvidia shills
>All while shilling AMD with the force of a 1000 suns
>No Nvidia shills in sight
>Just AMD circle jerk
I don't even play on PC, but this thread just seems kind of sad.
>>339777848
>HURR POWER IS LITERALLY THE ONLY FACTOR HURRR
do you even listen to yourself?
>>339772016
what site is this
>>339778208
did you even read the post?
>>339777848
>Comparing a midrange card with enthusiast card
>>339778182
That's because unlike nvidia, AMD doesn't provide game devs with tools to edit games in ways that benefit their own cards more. It's all in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7fA_JC_R5s
>>339778260
did you?
>>339770202
>COD26
lol
>>339777374
why did you fuck up?
the gtx 980 can play literally any game for the next 6 years. also, you probably paid $400-500 for the 980. the 1080 STARTS at $700.
>>339776482
>anecdotal evidence proves nothing
He proved his story was true which was what was in question
You probably get payed per post though so heres an extra 5 cents on me pal
>>339771592
>buying another 3.5 card
top fucking kek
So, uh... who's BTFOing of who?
>>339778465
But 1080 is 1.5x the card that 980 is
>>339778519
Do you play at 1080p 60fps? If so, then that extra power means nothing. That extra .5 power would just sit unused unless you forked over another $500 dollars to get a fancy new 1440p or 144hz monitor.
>>339772189
Happy anon man. Having a Fury/390 level card go on sale for $230 is like an early Christmas gift.
>>339778507
AMD btfo AMD. Nvidia #winning.
As always.
>>339778625
>390
Enjoy your house fire. Hope you have a nuclear reactor ready to power it. Better upgrade your PSU now before it explodes.
>>339778476
No, you're misunderstanding things. The anecdotal evidence is the story, not the thing he posted to prove it. His first post is the worthless anecdote, and that makes the second post which is proving that the first post is right also worthless.
>>339778356
Thanks bro, AMD™ truly is the optimal brand for all my video card needs. I'm ready to buy the GPU for the Immersive era, the Radeon RX 480™!
http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5185196&postcount=563
http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5185290&postcount=571
http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5185355&postcount=575
I read that whole thread, and I learned not to buy nvidia ever again.
>>339778712
He's talking about the RX 480 you dumb shill, think a little bit before you shitpost
Its a 1080p, and 1440p60hz monitors are fairly cheap.
When 1440p/144hz gets cheaper, by several hundreds of dollars, you will want a 1070
>>339777848
>Literally a thousand times more powerfu
learn to math retard
1080 / 480 = 2.25
480 is a much better value
>>339777737
Nope, it already arrived.
>>339777739
Not really. I only play strategy games and modded New Vegas.
AMD fanboys are kind of bigoted
2160p 60 Hz or 1440p 144 Hz?
>Our product can't really compete with Nvidia... B-but if you buy TWO, you'll be good to goy- I mean go!
>>339778970
1440p 144hz
What's up with people shilling 1080p? Higher res is more pleasing when viewing internet / taking look into photographs, is it not? I imagine that with 4k monitor, not only I could edit my own photos much better, seeing more resolution/detail in the photos, but I probably could also perceive more detail in pictures of other people posted on the internet.
>>339767907
Enjoy waiting for your crossfire drivers. Meanwhile I'll be playing games immediately with my 1080, and not having to play at medium settings because nothing is supported.
>>339778724
Just kill yourself retard. Stop posting, just stop.
>>339778208
What's the other factor?
Efficiency?
>double the TDP
>80% the performance
kek
>>339779212
safe to say that you got BTFO
>Everyone caring about Ashes of the Singularity.
I like how AMD only uses this since this is the only thing they can even remotely compete with Nvidia in
>>339779148
>4k monitor
Find one under $600 for me that doesn't ghost out the shitter thanks.
>>339775173
yes. we all new the new architecture of gpus was launching. you should have held out for a few months.
>>339778970
Depends, the big advantage that 2160p displays offer is 40" sizes without screen door pixels and an experience with a single screen with no bezels similar to a multi monitor setup.
>>339778363
did you?
>>339774543
And he still makes more money than you.
I'm upgrading from a GTX 460
nearly 6 generations of video cards old. great card, lasted a long time but it's time to upgrade. Is it worth going all the way and getting the 1080? Was thinking about just getting the 1070 since it's the better power/$ card and will still be a huge upgrade.
buy whatever you think gives you the money/perfomance mark, wether If you're a poorfag or a richfag. if a Titan X or 1080, gives you what you want for your money, go for it which is true If your needs are fullfilled with a 960 or a r9
>>339779442
Okay
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3FA3WK4697&cm_re=ASUS_PB287Q-_-24-236-399-_-Product
http://www.displaylag.com/asus-pb287q-review/
>>339778991
This is a card to sweep a market than Nvidia skipped. Even 400 is too much for alot of people
AMD will release the higher end cards in like 3-4 months.
Still would take a 400dollar 1070 over a 2 of these. Crossfire never gets supposed well
>>339779750
>Panel Type
>TN
No thanks.mp4
>>339779601
6850 here, gonna be gud
>>339779857
Are there issues with TN?
>>339769352
How do you come up with that? Spec wise 480 and 1070 are almost identical
>>339779947
No real issues. Colors just suck. That's all.
>>339779447
yes, I was told I was being rash, but damn, christmas frenzy got me over, and taking into account I earn my money in gorilla currency, I was terrified wether the dollar's value became unreachable
>>339779750
No freesync, in the garbage it goes
>buying a literal meme card
Have a 780and still using a 2011 i5 2500k oc'ed. Worth it to switch to team red?
>>339779750
For 4k you really want something well over 30", 38"-42" is ideal. Otherwise you'll have to use scaling which will basically make everything sized as if you were using 1080p.
Second-gen 60hz 4k screens VA panels should be coming down in price enough so that they'd be under $600, mine was only $700 and that was a year ago.
>>339779962
1070 is a bit faster in some benchmarks at least if we take AMD's claim of 980 level performance and Nvidia's claim on 980ti level performance at face value. 480x will probably be more in line with the 1070.
>>339778796
>http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5185355&postcount=575
lol at that nvidia cuck saying "n-nvidia isn't going to abandon maxwell like they did kepler, just keep buying 600$ cards goy"
>>339777081
>Asus ROG PG278Q 27
Pretty good, but we aren't where we want to be in terms of color.
All I want is to run most games for the next year or two at 1080 or 1440p 120fps.
What GPU do I need?
>>339780447
1080p? 120fps? 980ti
1440p? 120fps? two 980tis
>>339779543
>40" sizes
biggest I saw were 32" monitors and very expensive
I thought TVs wouldn't be smooth enough for games either
>>339780231
Which is fine, Shlomo. if you increase size you decrease pixel density, which defeats the purpose of having high resolution. High point is where it's at
>>339780539
>le SLI maymay
Kill you'reself pal.
I WANT TO UPGRADE FROM A 650 TI TO A NEW CARD TO PLAY MOST GAMES AT 1080P ON DECENT SETTINGS WITH 60FPS WHAT CARD TO I UPGRADE TO.
>>339774367
>dognigger
I laughed too hard at this shit.
>>339780717
480
>>339774104
still playing on almost ultra on most games with some overclocking on my XFX 270x.
Eat shit.
>>339780591
This. High pixel density makes everything look crisp, it's why I don't like how some people think it's good idea to run even 1080p on anything bigger than 23" or 24"
>>339780659
Stop throwing around buzzwords for a second and help me out here. What CAN do it if SLI can't?
>>339780789
>Eat shit.
But anon I don't use AMD cards so that's impossible.
I literally just bought a gtx 980
>>339780947
*Sings* reeeetaaaaard
Wish I knew a way to become a richfag so I could buy a GTX1080 and a new monitor ;-;
>>339781083
kys senpai
>>339780717
Depends on your definition of Most games, if you exclude Crytech engine games you can run just about anything on a nice midrange tier card. Especially when the new generation releases.
>>339780717
1080p/decent/@60
Step up your game/expectations anon. 1080p@60 is so last decade
>>339771592
Basically this, i'm a poorfag and I just built a shitty computer like 3.6ghz amd CPU and 8gb of ram. I'll get the rx480 because
a) i'm poor
b) budget entry level that will get me good fps
c) I don't want my shit gimped later on
I just want to play Witcher 3 and some fighting games.
>>339781165
Start making youtube gameplay / reaction videos, like pyrocynical or something
>>339780947
>the worst card to buy
>buys it
>>339780591
a 40" 4k screen actually has a higher pixel density than a 23" 1080p screen. Its not 'retina' but the whole point is that not so high that you have to scale your display and lose the benefit of the larger amount of real estate.
>>339780590
A quick search turns this up which seems to be a cheaper imported version of the same specs that cost $800-$1000 from a more typical brand: http://www.amazon.com/WASABI-MANGO-UHD400-40-Inch-Monitor/dp/B01CSC2P0K/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1464923380&sr=8-2&keywords=40%22+4k+monitor
These are monitors and not TVs the panels still have low response times and little input lag.
>>339780947
Don't kill yourself just yet. Pretty sure Nvidia has a step up program that let's you pay the difference and receive a new card
>>339781282
why?
>>339781256
Talking about fighting games, will rx480 or 1070 push 4k@60 for sf4?
>>339781256
The most important thing for entry level PCs is to get a motherboard that can support higher tier graphics cards and CPUs so you can upgrade.
>>339781435
Most fighting games can't support 4k@60
>>339781165
considering you won't become the next Zuckerberg here are my tips for not becoming a poorfag:
>If you're white
go to college
work
use your money wise
>If you're hispanic
go to college
work
use your money wise
>If you're black
go to college
work
use your money wise
>If you're asian
go to college
work
use your money wise
>>339781356
I prefer smother fonts than more text, I think information density is sufficient already, just like less pixelated stuff
>>339781435
>Console port
>4K
kek
>>339781630
lack of foresight will do you no good too
>>339781630
>Blow your money on one of the most expensive yet worthless pieces of paper you can ever get
>Spend your money wisely goyim.
>>339781630
>he fell for the college meme
>>339781658
Capcom is not competent, but after community bitch and moan they usually do fix their games. They may be retarded a bit, but they do care, anon.
>>339781735
expand, because I would put that in the "use your money wise" category
>>339781630
>paying the institutional Jew
Good goy
>>339767907
>this kills the nvidia
with drivers tailored to cheat the generic benchmarks? sure thing, buddy
>>339781654
40" 2160p isn't 'pixelated' you get the width of a dual monitor setup or a 21:9 display but with actual usable height so you can see what you're working on for desktop use and when you switch to gaming there's no annoying bezels in the way.
>>339773428
Vega will be HBM2 cards.
>>339781828
>Capcom cares
>4K monitor owners probably 0.0001% of PC players who buy their games
No
>>339768269
But were moving to vr, one card for each eye is something to be interested in. they don't need to render 4k today. Or if they do they can combine to do 4k.
I'm in for about 4 at $230-250(the 4gb cards are 199.99 etc) the better to crossfire cards are gonna be 230-250 i think based on what I've read.
>>339781794
>>339781865
>>339781881
You don't have to go meme college in US. In a lot of EU countries education is heavily subsidized and great quality too
>>339773530
>Zotac
>Bad
Pick one
>>339770798
Are u from bizarro /v/?
>>339781896
>AMD cheating
>not aware Nvidia provides tools for devs to shit on AMD cards / nvidia kepler cards
>>339781937
But that don't matter, pc 3d games normally support arbitrary resolutions. Whatever your hardware can push
>>339781750
>>339781794
>>339781881
>living in cuckland
kek
>>339773687
Vega is this fall
>>339781356
what the heck is a PVA panel
>>339782089
4K is a whole other kettle of fish m8 which is why a lot of games don't support it. The engine has to support those resolutions to begin with.
>>339769776
> pretending fps is a suitable benchmark
pls
>>339781937
>in week one only 100k bought the pc version.
that would mean only 10 of them would have had a 4k monitor.
>>339767907
Not really because the 480 is onyl competing with the 980, which doesn't matter becuase the 1070/1080 are coming out very soon.
then the 1080ti will come out and will absolutely destroy whatever AMD will come out with
>>339782253
Yeah, Capcom not gonn care
How?
I should know this, I have a lot of AMD shares gone up 40 cents since I bought.
>>339781794
>>339781881
>>339781750
>doesn't live in a country with free higher education
what 3rd world country do you live in
>>339781962
>one card for each eye
why. Nvidia already announced their cards can do most of the graphics stuff for both eyes at the same time
>>339781356
>>339781654
>>339782176
>>339782351
>they are scaling it from 640x400 to 1920x1080 I assume, why don't they let it scale to 4k?
>>339782394
>most
Cool?
>>339782227
I don't think so. After you initialize direct x, engine doesn't give the slightest fuck about resolutions. The only thing to keep in mind is aspect ratio, but 4k is not special here. You have to intentionally gimp your game to not support 4k
>>339773980
is this from an anime I can watch?
before i die i want to see a GPU thread that wasn't immediately memed to death
>>339782575
diablo 3 supports 4k with absolute shit tier textures, it just scales it. so you have sharp lines with blotchy/unclear textures between them.
>>339782559
>betting that crossfire will give better frametimes than dedicated VR support in the architecture
ok then
>>339782671
I didn't say crossfire nigger. one card per eye.
>>339782559
>Crossfire
>VR
Lel no, there's already enough nausea inducing fun times without there being terrible microstutter to make you hurl
>>339782638
Which is fine, sf4 textures are not particularly great to begin with
>>339782784
Where is the word crossfire?
>>339782789
>SFIV
>Capcom is going to add support to a 5 year old game because 10 PC users want 4K
Do you even hear yourself?
>>339782762
pretty sure motherboards don't have enough PCI lanes to run two cards at full speed
plus it's just a waste since most of the calculations in each frame overlap anyway
buying a bunch of low tier cards sounds bad
>>339782789
So sf4 should do the exact same thing d3 does, it's slightly sharper in 4k, but it has the same texture detail that 1080p does.
>>339782883
>2016
>playing capcom games
Do you even hear yourself?
>>339782883
7 year old*
ftfy
>>339782176
VA was developed as sort of a middle ground between IPS and TN back when TN had good refresh rates but shit colors and IPS had good colors but shit refresh rates. Its mostly popular today for large format displays because its easy to crank out very large panels.
>>339782931
x8 and x16 don't make difference when it comes to GPUs, there're videos covering this on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rctaLgK5stA
>>339782883
Well, they did put re5 on steamworks, and released old dlc, so they do care about old games. And what I'm saying is that unless they Fucked Up then 4k support should be there from the start
>>339782931
Are you sure or not? Because I can link you motherboards that can run two highend cards at full speed at once.
>buying a bunch of low tier cards sounds bad
Because you like to throw money away trying to have a single card calculating 2 different things?
>plus it's just a waste since most of the calculations in each frame overlap anyway
I'm willing to give you that, but unless you can get rid of my first two points you can fuck right off AND I'm not convinced that the 1080 has the ability to do that, and I'm not going to agree to it unless you can prove it.
>>339782789
>fgc
>relevant
>>339783127
>they do care about old games
They care about selling the old games again and again. It's not that they care about you m8. The SFIV is a deprecated engine and they're not working on it anymore.
>>339783072
>SLI
because it has SLI connectors to handle communication between cards. This guy thinks he will run 4 cards independently somehow without crossfire
>>339783230
just wait for VR benchmarks then. I bet the 1% low will be shit for multiple cards
>>339783465
So you went from nvidia is the best to, just wait and see you are going to get BTFO.
Yea... good luck with getting paid for that, that's some good proof.
Thanks for arguing against my first two or even bothering to deny my third.
>>339767907
So wait, how much vram does it have?
>>339783589
4GB for $200
8GB for $300
>>339772149
Oh I get it, he has autism.
>>339768269
>buy nvidia card
>driver update
>deletes my saves
>new update
>crashing my pc
>shitpost on /v/ about AMD having no drivers
>turn on my excellent NVIDIA GameWorks™ games
>performance completely destroyed
>GEFORCE EXPERIENCE has crashed, but recovered
>new driver update
>performance is now much worse
>notice new NVIDIA card came out at the same time
>replace my 2 year old card because NVIDIA tanked my performance, forcing me to buy another card
>repeat forever
NVIDIAFRIENDS unite and purchase!
>>339783465
This nvidia drone fell so hard that he's going to try to shit talk amd as he falls. We're not talking about sli connections for nvida.
>>339778151
for gaming its major disadvantage is that 4k adoption is only starting to happen. It's not as noticeable as the jump to 1080p and gaming is next-to-impossible on it with cheap 4k TVs having massive input delay (a friend of mine literally has a 1/2 second delay on every input). TVs without this still have input delays of up to 40ms, which while not terrible, is unacceptable compared to 1080 and 1440p monitors with less than 10ms of lag.
Ignoring all this, fucking flagship cards can't do 4k gaming at stable framerates yet and flagship cards do not account for even 20% of the market. Consoles are even further behind, with most games being run at 1080p30fps or sub-1080.
8k gaming is minimum a decade away. 4k gaming isn't going to catch on for another few years.
>>339783653
I was shooting for 6gb but I guess I could go a little overboard.
>>339783563
good luck running four cards on your mobo without crossfire
how would you even plug your VR headset into them? you literally cannot
>>339783695
your video literally says SLI and linus says it doesn't need full bandwidth because it uses the SLI bridge
>>339783589
4GB or 8GB. 4GB is $200, we don't have a price for the 8GB yet.
>>339783653
Where do you hear that? I was hearing $250 for 8GB but there doesn't seem to be anything official
>>339783589
4gb for $200
8gb for $230
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10-launch/
>>339783413
>>339783234
Fine, capcom is evil jew, happy now?I still love them
>>339783908
>twice the vram for $30 more
Why would you not?
>>339783819
What can i do with nvidia that i can't do with amd for vr? Even today?
>>339783819
I'm not that guy. Also it not needing the bandwidth because we have a bridge doesn't mean the bridge is required. You could use the full bandwidth and have it work, but not have an sli bridge. Having the sli bridge just proves that with an sli bridge it works.
That's a non requirement based on what you have told me. since with the bridge you doesn't need full bandwidth.
Can you do it without the bridge? inb4 yes without a link.
>>339767907
Where can I get a non bias opinion? I was going to upgrade soon and was going to wait for the 1080 to come out so the price of the 980 would drop a bit, but I'm already on an amd card so not having to uninstall drivers would be nice. My monitor is gsync ready though, never gotten to try that. Is it good or is it just a gimmick?
>>339783681
No, the headphones in question just are that bad. Sennheiser HD800 for instance are good
>>339783690
This pretty much.
>>339783956
I doubt it would make a difference for 1080p
>>339783767
Input delay on my 40" 4k monitor is about 5ms a lot better than my old monitor but 4k monitors do come with a price in that they're a couple of hundred more than the equivalent sized hdtv since they require better internals and you don't get a TV tuner. Also some of the cheaper/older displays like the one I got last year will only do 4k@60 over display port.
Plus as I said earlier the advantage of these high resolutions is that more resolutions open up without using odd scaling factors that lead to artifacts. So on a 8k display you can still play games at 1440p just like you would on a 1440p monitor.
>>339784129
so this is going to sound like a semi shill post, so I'm gonna go ahead and ask what exactly you are looking for? are you looking for preorders of the $200 card, are you looking for benchmarks? Where are you trying to go with this?
I'm the guy agruing with>>339783819
>>339783819
>>339783956
The cheaper 4GB card is aimed at OEMs. Honestly AMD's whole strategy with this card is aimed at OEMs who will be able to offer 980 level performance at a lower price tag both for the GPU and the power supply.
>>339783767
>>339784308
Is replying to himself if not obvious.
4k@60
while talking about 1080p30fps or sub 1080 is a red flag. as consoles being behind
>>339784493
No you're just being paranoid.
>>339784714
Prove it.
inb4 you photoshop a (you)
8GB on a 256bit bus will suck
>>339775738
There are games that won't run or will revert the .ini settings if they've been changed.
>>339784493
why are GPU threads more hostile than goddamn console war threads? Jesus.
>>339784308
You can upscale games of course, but a lot of the time this comes at a price.
>>339784947
Because pc master race only question console gamers when they claim their consoles are like PC.
You are claiming our shit is close enough for us. In the old days, I could buy a mouse and mouse pad that could give me an advantage, or I could buy a better video card and monitor and people would try to argue in favor of I bought better gear because i care more.
Consoles are the opposite, everyone has to be exactly the same, but we will allow "better controllers on the side" until the elite control was officially sold.
>>339784947
Cause PC enthusiasts don't hate anything more than people with misinfo.
>>339784823
You know you can check right? As you say editing an image is all too easy.
>>339784947
True, but the advantage of high resolutions is that you're just doubling the pixels used. So when I switch my display over to HDMI and my PS3 its set to 720p output and it just takes 9 pixels of the 2160p display and makes them 1 pixel. Its actually better than what you would get with either a typical 720p display (usually 1366x768), or the scaling you get trying to show a 720p image on a 1080p display.
>>339785126
but normies that aren't trying to optimize their performance , i'm not trying to reeeeeee or some bullshit, but pc gamers bought things to enhance their ability. Console players try to say it's just a game man, we should all have the same thing and i'm going to play it 12 hours a day because it's just a game. and then beat you when you didn't learn how to use shit controls.
Pc gamers are trying to get an edge, console players are feel the burn fans that want us to "equalize us" to what they enjoy.
>>339785339
>You know you can check right? As you say editing an image is all too easy
I can evaluate the image and determine if it's faked or not, you can not check, as you can delete all data related to the image before you send it, you just get the pixels.
>>339783690
>buy AMD card
>driver update automatically reduces fan speeds to 20% without any indication whatsoever
>this causes dangerously high temperatures and multiple people reported their older cards being fried and dying due to the shutoff mechanism not working
Granted I'll still be switching to Team Red and picking up an RX 480 unless Nvidia has something amazing up their sleeve. Just having tesselation control in AMD control panel would be godly, especially for newer titles. People have been asking Nvidia for tess control for so many years now, but they sure as fuck would never implement it because it'd completely ungimp their older cards. Nvidia fucking loves forced obsoletion, I'll gladly switch to AMD out of principal as long as they put up a better value.
>>339784345
I have two 1080p monitors and no interest in upgrading to 4k anytime soon. I don't upgrade often so maybe if I desperately want to play something in beutiful 4k resolution at some point it would be nice as an option, but that's not the benchmark I'm aiming for. DS3 doesn't run well on my pc, my gpu just can't handle it. I wanna play it at 60 fps.
>>339785339
>1366x768
making shit up now
>>339785559
>People have been asking Nvidia for tess control for so many years now, but they sure as fuck would never implement it because it'd completely ungimp their older cards. Nvidia fucking loves forced obsoletion
This.
>>339785568
Also, in general I care far more about fps than resolution. I opted for a 144hz monitor over a 4k one.
>>339785568
assuming you aren't a shill buy a single 480. It will be fine. then you can later buy a second 480 for 4k. the single 480 will do gaming + nothing monitor and then if you want to do the dual monitors while gaming or VR you will be set by buying a second. TFW I have a 970 because it's one of the few cards that has an hdmi 2.0 port.
>>339785568
>no interest in upgrading to 4k anytime soon
Same. When even 980s struggle with newer titles, you know you have to be loaded to go with 4k. It's just not worth the money needed to by a 4k-competent gpu in my opinion.
>>339773660
Dogs actually have much higher intelligence than cats. Mostly because dogs are social while cats are solitary.
https://web.archive.org/web/20101229142559/http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2010/102311.html
>>339785732
You can get a 4k monitor why don't you want a new monitor? blind? Why isn't it worth the money?
>>339785730
>TFW I have a 970 because it's one of the few cards that has an hdmi 2.0 port
Interesting, why do you need hdmi 2.0? Do you use a television instead of a normal monitor? (Pardon my ignorance, don't know much about it.)
>>339784435What's an OEM?
>>339785791
If you raise them alone, a cat will be smarter than a dog. I don't have a pack of dogs. I have a single cat.
Cat's are scavenging predators, dogs are pack anmials. If I had a pack of cat/dog, i'd pick dogs.
>>339785821
yes. I'm using a 55 inch curved 6700 samsung tv. It has 4:4 chroma. look up 4:4 it's close enough for a monitor you just shit talk on 4chains for and diablo 3
>>339785730
Oh, is the 480 good enough for VR? I haven't jumped on that either but it might be cool. I'm not ready for the Vive apparently.
Based AMD looking out for the poorfags. Maybe now we can all play together instead of shitpost.
>>339785797
Oh no I was just talking about my own budget, sorry I should have specified that. But for example, using my current 1080p monitor plus spending $200 on an RX480 is a much more feasible deal than blowing say $400 for a 4k monitor and then $600 for a powerful enough video card. The $1000 difference is crazy to me but maybe I can become a richfag by the time the next generation of cards come out.
>>339785994
nice 2009 mem
>>339785732
Basically any GPU from the last few years can run a 2160p screen. Sure you can't play most games in native resolution with a cheap mid-range card but there are games that can and for everything else it still works perfectly as a 1080p display. Something that can't be said for a 1440p display. If you want both 2160p and 1440p then you need a 4320p display which we'll hopefully have on the market in a couple more years.
Ok, if I had to buy either a 4k monitor (for gaming , photographic image editing), or a high HZ 1080p monitor for 120fps (Overwatch) or HTC Vive (VR experience) ..
A) Which of the following three should I go with
B) What would be good GPU for it?
>>339785983
>If you raise them alone, a cat will be smarter than a dog
Where is your documentation on this original research you've done?
Because from the studies I've read the superior intelligence of dogs is innate and genetic and comes from generations of being social animals not from their upbringing.
>>339786057
I really don't know and we can't order them today. I'm assuming that buying 2 will make you set for VR, but I really don't know on normal performance at this point.
>>339786147
Just spend your $200 This is under console money. The peroders aren't available today, but I'm in for 4 at 200-250 I need 2 for my main, 1 for my gf and one for my secondary location comp
>>339771592
link me a gtx 1080 for 599.99.
>>339786219
at 30p, yes. only the 900 series can run 60@30 without adapters, I've fucked with this since December of last year/ . unless you mean monitor, screen includes tv's.
>>339785830
Original Electronics Manufacturer, aka the companies that make pre-built computers.
>>339786282
I decline to state and you win the arguement, maybe cats are retarded.
>>339786383
My 7950 handles 2160p@60 just fine, it really took Nvidia till the 900 series to support it?
>>339786224
Guys I need help with this. In one hand, I'd like to play Overwatch with 120 fps or something, so I can get some smoother action. On the other, I'd really love to have 4k quality for either games or photographs. What do I do?
>>339786219
Damn, I never actually realized that, props man. I never considered the fact that you could still switch to 1080p res on a 4k screen. Older games in 4k would likely look godly, I remember playing Splinter Cell Blacklist in 1440p and being extremely impressed, 4k would be even better.
It's amazing how massive of a different resolution makes, even in older titles. For example, Dark Souls is a 2009 game, yet playing it in 1440p it's surprisingly impressive the little details the devs put in, like the scratches on the knight armor.
>>339786552
I have a 7950 that will no longer display an hdmi signal at all, it's all noise, but there is no signal. I also know that there was no hdmi 2.0 card that could run 2160p@60. that was 1.4a at best.
You are simply a liar attempting to time the thread out. Or a retard. Pick one, a retard, a liar or someone that "witnessed" something that can't happen.
>>339786676
Fuck, Dark Souls released in 2011, sorry for my temporary retardation, I got it mixed up with Demon Souls that released in 2009.
>>339786736
the 7950 was 1.4 at best, it could only run 2160@30.
>>339783848
>Thinking AMD won't jew you out of money for RAM
When has this ever happened?
>>339786646
Most 4k screens support high refresh rates at lower resolutions, the 60hz or 30hz limits at 2160p are frequently due to the limitations of display port or hdmi and not the panel itself.
My display for instance allows me to set it into a 120hz 1:1 1440p mode which basically gives me a 30" 1440p image surrounded by black.
>>339786964
No they don't.
Assuming you are talking about physical inputs. my panel is a 120hz, and by 120hz they mean they will input a 60fps/hz image and try to blend it with the next frame.
>>339786964
Thanks, didn't know about this. So I'm good with pretty much any 4k screen in terms of refresh rate if I want to play a game 1920@120fps ?
>>339786964
1:1 nm i take it back, enjoy your 1:1 That's close enough for you.
>>339787056
not at all, he made it up.
>>339786736
>>339786867
HDMI yes, but my card and my monitor have Display Port. I think people in here keep hearing 40" and thinking 'shit TV' when what they should be thinking is 'awesome monitor'
>>339786057
>Oh, is the 480 good enough for VR?
That's AMD's stated goal with the 480. VR-ready GPU for $200.
>>339787056
You'll need to check the documentation carefully, my old first-gen 2160p display required third-party firmware in order to support 1080p@120 and it didn't have any 1:1 modes so you were basically stuck with 2160, 1080, or 720 unless you wanted weird scaling ratios.
>>339787056
Also why are you saying thanks? Are you a retard or a shill? No one respects people that say thanks for trying to articulate why their opinion is correct. He's not your boss, he's a nobody.
>>339787229
If you have DP on your monitor then yea, maybe yo u can get 60. I bought the card post monitors, and they don't have DP. Thus I bought a 4k monitor and then a 970 to drive it.
>>339787449
is 1:1 a thing now? because it was 4:4 chroma for me. and 4:4 was the thing. you can divide it but I think 4:4 chroma is the thing you should be looking for today for a monitor. This shit wasn't cheep
>>339787460
I want 4k monitor for photog stuff / editing, but I'd also like to play games on either 4k 60 or 1080 120hz. I'm asking if there's option to have all this on singe display?
![amd-rx-480-polaris-3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/G4xk7Fz.jpg "amd-rx-480-polaris-3[1]")
![61pCZ6Yo0LL._SL1200_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/G1zF5oc.jpg "61pCZ6Yo0LL. SL1200 [1]")
