>Moon Pokemon
>Psychic/Ghost
>Double weak to Dark
Bravo.
If there's no Dragon/Bug Pokémon in 7th gen, I'm going to destroy Nintendo.
>>339759869
Yanmega was a wasted opportunity
Also double weak to ghost
JFSMU
>>339759486
>moon
>weak to dark
Nigga what
>>339759486
The moon is bright white, why would it be dark?
It's just like how Groudon is fire/ ground and therefore double weak to water. Which is the typing of the legendary of the alternate version. Pokemon doesn't always make sense.
>>339759486
With free multiscale.
If it gets some kind of recovery, it will be good.
>>339760043
>Psychic/ Ghost
>>339760065
It shouldn't be dark type, but the moon is only out in the dark. Thematically, it shouldn't be double weak to the dark.
>4x weak to sucker punch
JUST PRIORITY MY SHIT UP
>>339760234
No one runs sucker punch in uber
>>339760234
I think he gets a multiscale-like ability
>>339760195
Dark-type isn't referring to literal darkness. It's referring to dirty/evil tactics.
What does his ability even do? Irks the fuck out of me that they show what Liger Zero's ability does but not what batman's ability does. Pokemon was all about fairness and balance between the versions but now they all gone and fuck it up with this one sided information garbage
Should've been Fairy/Ghost
>double weak to fire
ITTIG
>>339760329
>he
It's obviously a moon waifu pokemon
>>339760653
shouldve been Dark/Fairy
>>339760669
>Scizor is my favorite pokemon
>Have to one shot everything or die
Living life on the edge
>>339760880
Scizor has relatively good defensive typing, but man, when something hits it for super effective damage that bitch is going down. Fucking ember can melt a Scizor.
The legendaries are usually boring to use anyway.
I hope the new additions have some decent stats and typing.
>>339760068
Groudon is mono-ground outside of its primal form in ORAS
>>339760068
Groudon is pure Ground.
>>339759486
>Psychic/Steel Solgaleo
anyone else surprised by this? I expected something like Arcanine but got Metagross instead.
>>339760669
Rare cases where evolution looks shittier.
>>339760195
>moon is only out in the dark
>>339759486
>The moon's light is Lunaala's eternal struggle against the darkness
That's some Dark Souls shit.
>>339761254
Stop being semantic. The moon is almost synonymous with the night just like the sun is synonymous with the day.
>>339760605
I think they mentioned it on the website. Attacks deal less damage to you when you're at full HP.
Does Full Metal Body also prevent stat changes in general or only from abilities?
>>339759486
And Sun Dog is weak to fire.
GameFreak logic tee-em
>>339760195
it's 2016 and you still think dark type is literally referring to darkness
>what is /vp/
How much you wanna bet these games have even less new pokemon than gen 6 did and instead we get to have more than 1 mega pokemon out at a time?
>>339761652
There's literally 15 overwatch threads on the board right now, I don't care.
>>339761370
>Does Full Metal Body also prevent stat changes in general or only from abilities?
According to Serebii it prevents them in general
>>339761236
This is so DAMN good bait I nearly lost my shit good job anon
>>339761685
>We will never get another Gen V situation where the dex is so hearty it could stand on its own
>>339761685
Well apparently each island has its own regional dex plus Rotom-Pokedex so there might be a lot this time
>>339761801
Huh seems kinda unbalanced between the two
>>339760195
>moon is only out in the dark
you've never seen the moon in daylight? What are you a faggot?
>>339759486
It's not the Moon Pokemon though.
>>339762120
depends on how big the islands are and how many they're are. We could get as many as gen 6, 69, or as few as 49 with 50 new mega evolutions to make up for it
Don't forget, Gamefreak stopped trying around gen 4 don't underesitmate how much lazier they've gotten now. Zyograde's new forms might even count towards the new pokemon pool of gen 7.
>>339762487
>Don't forget, Gamefreak stopped trying around gen 4
But Gen 5 was god tier in both content and number of Pokémon, what are you talking about?
>>339762487
>Stopped trying around Gen 4
>B/W brings out the largest Pokedex with the lowest number of shitmons
>>339759486
>>339760043
Stop this. The moon has absolutely nothing to do with Dark as a type and I don't know why people keep spouting this idiotic idea.
From Gen I, the moon has been associated with the Normal type. Look at what Pokemon require a Moon stone to evolve. Even when the Dark type was introduced in Gen II, this didn't change. Heck, they introduced Moonlight in Gen II and it was a Normal type move then. Umbreon is the only possible link between Dark and the moon (seeing as it learned moonlight), but its evolution is only tied to night time and not the moon specifically.
Gen VI swapped out Normal's association with the moon and changed it to Fairy. All the moon Pokemon like Clefable were changed to Fairy, Moonlight was changed to Fairy, and Moonblast was introduced as a Fairy type move. All this time later and we still have no Dark types that evolve with a moon stone.
I don't know why the fuck the moon Pokemon is Psychic/Ghost instead of some Fairy variant, but it probably has to do with Psychic being associated with space for some reason.
If you've been paying the slightest bit of attention, however, you should know that Dark was never in the cards.
>>339762487
Expect Gen V was the best generation since II
>>339762735
>opinion
>opinions
>>339763159
>Implying Johto was better than Sinnoh or even Hoenn
GSCBaby, please. Johto was nothing but a barebones expansion pack to the original games. The region was bland, the pokemon blander, and the exp curve slowed everything to a goddamn crawl.
>>339759486
The choice has been made for me already.
>>339763159
Gen 2 was never that good
moonlight is the reflection of the sun's rays off the moon's sueface.
that Rotomdex bit at the end of the trailer actually made me open my fucking eyes for once in this god damn franchise. like it's such a fucking gimmick, but it's an amusing gimmick.
>>339763159
Gen 2 wasn't anything special until the remake.
>>339763415
>Barebones
>Introduced Day/Night cycle, time specific Pokemon, new ways to find Pokemon, two new types, BREEDING, Special stat split, modern EV/IV system, genders and gender differences, playable female characters, pre-cursor to battle frontier,etc.
>Johto Mons are bland
Now your just shitposting
>Exp curve
Which was a issue since the game was balanced around it and the reasoning was for Kanto
>>339763513
Damn you guys are dumb
DARK-TYPE POKEMON HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ABSENCE OF LIGHT.
THEY ARE CALLED EVIL-TYPE IN JAPAN BCAUSE THEY'RE ASSHOLES AND JERKS WHO FIGHT UNDERHANDED. AMERICA RENAMED IT TO DARK FOR SOME REASON.
STOP WITH THIS FUCKING NONSENSE ALREADY, IT'S 2016.
>Shadow sneak
>Sucker Punch
gg no re
>>339760065
>>339764224
>Day/Night
Useful for only 5 or so Pokemon
>Two new types
Which they handled horribly, see Karen.
>Breeding
In which the system behind it and IVs was promptly thrown out come Gen 3
>Unfucking the special stat
Didn't see true fruition until Gen 4
>Gender differences
Nidoran
>Female character
Wow, a slightly different sprite
porn of moon legendary when
>>339759486
The sun legendary is weak to fire so... Pretty sure it's intentional
>>339759869
Bug type just drags dragon into the ground
>psychic/steel
>for a fucking legendary revolved around the sun and does fire attacks
What were they thinking?
>>339761236
fite me
>>339763415
>The region was bland
I agree with you but not on this. I liked the japanese folklore they had going on with it, the music was nice too
>the pokemon blander
I agree with this
It had some designs I liked like steelix and the mareep family but were mostly forgettable
I was playing X and Y and when I encountered a snubble I was shocked because I stared at it for a couple of seconds and then I remembered it wasn't a new pokemon, I just completely forgot about it, then it happened again with qwilfish.
I tried looking at gen 2's pokedex after that to see them again and saw I forgot so many and most just were there
Most of gen 2 felt like rejects that didn't make it to gen 1 instead of fresh mons
>>339764881
Pure conjecture on my part but it seems that the legendaries may be man-made conduits for the energies of their respective celestial bodies. Magearna's dex entry hints at human ingenuity being a big thing this Gen.
>>339764881
>Devour of the sun
>Weak to fire
Wew lad.
>>339764881
That wasn't a Fire-type attack, you idiot, Fire isn't very effective on Dragon.
>>339764686
>Day/Night can't be for aesthetic purposes as well
>Horrible implementation of not they still added them and they are great
>Missed part where I said without Gen 2 there is no breeding to be developed as a system over time
>I never played Gen 2 or 3 meta the post
>Actual gender differences not a separate Pokemon you tard
5>4>3>1>2>6
Objectively.
>>339764224
>>Johto Mons are not bland
BOY I SURE DO LOVE ME SOME LITERALLY MY MOM'S OWL AND FERRET AND DEER
>>339761342
it's not semantic, it's fucking factual
>>339765090
Some of the Pokemon had really weird distribution, too. A lot of people think Slugma and Skarmory are Gen III because of how out of the way and hard to find they were compared to in Hoenn.
>>339761342
>moon reflects light off the sun
???
>>339765270
I'd argue IV above V if only for how god tier Platinum was. But then again, I didn't care for B/W2.
>>339765437
The only dark-type you could get before the Elite Four was Umbreon.
>>339765287
>BOY DO I SURE LOVE ME SOME RATS CATS AND BIRDS
>Sun monster weak to fire
>Moon monster weak to dark
It's called irony, you faggots. Game Freak are poetic geniuses.
>>339765287
BOY I SURE DO LOVE A PINK PUDDLE, A PURPLE PUDDLE, A DUCK, A FUCKING BALL, A BLACK LADY, A GUY WITH A FUCKING WWE CHAMPIONSHIP BELT, A RAT, A BIRD, A ROCK WITH ARMS, A BAT, AND LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE
If you don't think the 3rd legendary isn't going to be an Earth golem, you an awful nigga
>>339764881
New to Pokemon? Lugia lives in water and uses water attacks yet it's a Psychic type. This is just an astronaut lion using the sun's power in addition to its own.
Also, courtesy of /vp/
>Barong is the white-haired lion of light, whose fur is adorned with precious stones and gilded mirrors to reflect the sun's rays against his enemies.
>He fights Rangda, the witch queen of the demons, who take the form of flying vampires missing their lower extremities who come at night to steal men's lives.
>Then there's Batara Kala the god of the underworld, an ogre that causes eclipses by trying to eat the sun or the moon.
Gen 1 was the worst designed half of them are just regular animals and all the evolutions are just slightly bigger versions of themselves
>>339765614
You forgot the shittiest Pokemon to ever exist.
>>339764561
Umbreon evolves at night, doesn't matter if the moon is out or not. The name itself has no relation to the moon either
>>339764561
>Moon pokemon
>doesn't evolve from Moon stone
Umbreon is a filthy liar.
>>339763441
MOONMAN MOONMAN
CAN'T YOU SEE?
DARK TYPES NEED TO HANG FROM TREES
>>339765745
Woah hold the fuck up nigga, don't talk shit about the closest thing to Kamen Rider in Pogermong
>>339765749
>name itself is no relation to moon
Are you legit retarded?
Every thread.
>>339765716
>Bali theme
Huh, that makes a lot of sense. I thought Barong was more commonly viewed as a dog though.
>>339765716
Reminder that SJW will try and twist Rangda to be a tragic heronine who is just trying to liberate poor innocent women from rapey mysgonstic men.
>>339763296
>2nd statement
but that's a fact. Everyone knows Johto brought the largest amount of shitmons so even if Unova didn't bring the least amount, it definitely didn't bring the most.
>>339765739
Gen 2 was the worst designed half of them are just regular animals and slightly smaller versions of old pokemon. And there's only 100 so the shit ones stand out more.
>>339765912
It's useless to the point where it won't even help you in single player.
>>339765668
Lunaala isn't ironic. Dark as a type has no connection to the moon whatsoever. That Normal and later Fairy.
Dark is about fighting dirty or being evil. It has no connection to "dark" as the absence of light.
>STILL NO POISON LEGENDARY
Fuck you Gamefreak jesus christ just do it.
>>339761874
>>339765089
He's right though, Scyther is 10/10.
Scizor is an 8/10 but that's still a downgrade.
>>339763027
>From Gen I, the moon has been associated with the Normal type
No it hasn't. The Clefairy family was, but other than that.
>Look at what Pokemon require a Moon stone to evolve.
Out of the 6 Pokemon that evolve through the Moon Stone, only 2 are Normal-type (three in Gen 1-5). Even if we're only looking at Gen 1, neither Nidorina and Nidorino are Normal-type, while Jigglypuff has no stated connection to the moon.
>Heck, they introduced Moonlight in Gen II and it was a Normal type move then
So was Morning Sun. I don't think it's indicative of anything.
>Umbreon is the only possible link between Dark and the moon (seeing as it learned moonlight), but its evolution is only tied to night time and not the moon specifically.
No, Umbreon is definitely connected to the moon specifically. RSE, DPP, BW, XY and ORAS Pokedex entries all state that energy emitted by the moon caused Eevee to turn into Umbreon. Darkrai is also another Dark-type Pokemon connected to the moon.
>All the moon Pokemon like Clefable were changed to Fairy
Umbreon wasn't, Lunatone wasn't, Cresselia wasn't, Darkrai wasn't, Teddiursa/Ursaring weren't. Other than Jigglypuff/Clefairy, none of the other Moon Stone Pokemon became Fairy-type either. Pokemon like the Mr. Mime line, the Marill line, the Ralts line and the Whimsicott line were also turned into Fairy-types, despite having no connection with the moon. I do agree that it looked like they were pushing for a Moon/Fairy connection in Gen 6, though.
>If you've been paying the slightest bit of attention, however, you should know that Dark was never in the cards.
I don't think it was so unreasonable to think it might've been Dark-type, but personally, I didn't think it would be Dark-type either.
>>339766024
It's ghost because it's based on vampires.
>>339765945
Umber is a pigment, a dark brown. Umbra is a part of a shadow, while it is used to describe an eclipse it is not exclusive to it nor does the term originate from it
I will give you the Moonlight pokemon however. Though in my opinion that's always been shitty since light, moon or otherwise, is antithesis to dark
>>339766090
I was joking m8.For real though my favorite pokemon is Kabutops because it has the clean, smooth head like scizor and sickle claws like scyther.
>>339766090
I THINK you got those mixed up, Scyther is the 8/10 because Scizor is the greatest Pokemon to ever be created and your literally gay to think otherwise
>>339761342
>semantic
I never thought I'd be telling someone they're misusing that word, but here we are.
>>339766590
How did you know I was a lesbian?
>>339761236
You're not alone, despite what the fags who cry bait every time someone contradicts their sensibilities might think. Good taste, anon.
>>339766775
>>/tumblr/
>>/lgbt/
>>/co/mblr
What's with the Scizor haters recently? x4 weakness to fire? Pfft. Just, like, switch pokemons, man.
>>339766238
>I don't think it was so unreasonable to think it might've been Dark-type, but personally, I didn't think it would be Dark-type either.
Dark-type is EVIL-type, they're assholes and dirty fighters, with a few of them being ominous shadowy monsters. They've never had anything to do with the sun or moon or space or anything else like that. It's been fifteen goddamned years and we STILL have people who keep thinking Dark-type has anything to do with light.
>>339766775
>Lesbian
>Doesn't think Scizor is the best
>>339766865
No thanks, I hate SJW and mentally ill shit. I just like pretty girls.
>>339759486
Who cares, I only use flying legendaries as HM slaves anyway.
>>339766494
>Kabutops
Nah nigga, wish he was more viable
I can't wait for mega Flygon
Explain this
>>339766909
>Wanting to have meme sex
>>339767019
Fucking A, meant to reply to >>339766024
>>339766983
Yeah, I use it anyway but it's eh. I was obsessed with the thing as a kid, made paper figures and stuff all the time.Finally got a card of it
>>339767019
>Creature of Nightmares
>>339767223
Except it doesn't do that as an "evil" thing at all, it afflicts nightmares to defend itself
>>339767342
So it's sharing a boat with Absol then.
>>339767124
Dark is about evil stereotypes, but doesn't necessarily require the Pokemon be evil. According to pic related just looking evil is enough, as it has very little reason to be otherwise.
If you're talking about Darkrai's connection to the moon, though, I think it has to do with the level of light. The Pokedex specifically mentions Darkrai being active on "moonless" nights during the new moon. It sounds an awful lot like Darkrai is actually avoiding the moon, no?
>People think Dark types are associated with night time/moon
>Don't realize they are literally called "Evil Type" in Japan
A pokemon is only dark type if it has evil/shady undertones to its design. Houndoom is basically a hell hound, Murkrow line is basically gangsters, Krookodile is basically modeled after thieves (also it's name), Yveltal has evil in it's name and has a very villainous color scheme/design, etc.
Lunala not being Dark makes perfect sense, especially if it's considered a revered pokemon and not feared/evil.
>>339763027
Why Is The Moon Associated With "Dark" When We Only See It Because It Actually Reflects Light?
>>339759869
i'd rather have a dragon/grass
>>339768354
We have one.
>>339759486
>Moon has a dark side
>It's not a dark pokemon
bravo
>>339759486
>There will never ever be a Dark type gym
It's my favorite type, it's not fucking fair
>>339768406
i actually just remembered M-Sceptile.
but i meant a grass/dragon which isn't an alternate forme.
>itt people know nothing about pokemon
Dark type is more about being an opportunistic asshole then it is about actual darkness.
Litterally the only time Dark = Darkness is with Umbreon, the move Night Daze, and Darkrai, and with darkrai it's still only half and half. Every other pokemon or move that's Dark has to do with being a dick or a predator.
>>339759486
>Dragon pokemon
>Dragon/flying
>Double weak to ice
Worked well for Rayquaza you faggot.
>>339766640
Most everyone reading this thread knows that the phrase "the moon is out when it's dark" is referring to the fact that the moon is prominently seen at night. While it's possible to see it during the day, it's not what the moon is associated with.
Pointing out this fact is semantic. The meaning is clear, and you're just arguing the literal meaning of the word. Go back to school.
>>339766387
>>339765785
>Moonlight is learned by leveling up
>>339768808
Not everything carries Ice Beam.
>>339760310
>implying this shitmon will be in ubers
>>339759486
Without the sun, the moon would be consumed by darkness so it kinda makes sense.
>>339768857
I don't get what you're implying? Moonlight is a fairy type move right? Wouldn't that be in favor of moon not being equal to dark?
I'm the guy who was explaining Umber/Umbra btw
>>339759869
>On the 18th of November 2016 a single man flew to Japan and destroyed Nintendo.
>>339767342
Explain mystery dungeon then, Darkrai was a total cunt
>>339768843
The literal meaning of what word? You're making an argument about symbolic associations, not definitions.
>Dark type will never be good
>Ice type will never be good
>>339761034
It it fair to use em in local battles without being seen as a weirdo,and what's the deal with fariys being in Gen 1 on the eshop releases for the eshop
>>339769317
Dark/night. "The moon is out when it's dark" isn't a confusing phrase. Pointing out that the moon can also be out during the day is just arguing over the difference between "dark" and "night" when it isn't important to the topic.
>The Sun Pokemon is weak to fire
>The moon Pokemon is weak to Dark
>>339769350
>dark type not good
nigga its one of the best offensive types out there right now
>>339769350
Weavile is Dark-Ice and one of the best offensive mons in the game
youre retarded
>>339769737
It's the exact same as ghost, except it's also weak to one of the most common attack types instead of being immune to it and also weak to fairy now for some reason.
>>339760310
>No one runs sucker punch
>yveltal
>Mega Mawile
>Kanga to a lesser extent
You don't play ubers, do you?
>>339769686
>inb4 they have an alternate forme to correct that.
>>339766590
ill suck your dick right now motherfucker, it doesnt change the fact that scizor isnt nearly as cool as scyther
Eat shit Moonfags.
Enjoy your UU legendary.
>>339759869
Dragon/Fighting when?
I thought it would have been obvious to make by nowand Fairy nerf so it isn''t raped by it
>Solgaleo’s Ability is Full Metal Body, a new Ability that no previous Pokémon has had. With the Full Metal Body Ability, a Pokémon’s stats will not be lowered by the effects of an opponent’s moves or Ability.
>no previous pokemon ever had
IT'S
FUCKING
CLEAR BODY
HOW ARE THEY THIS RETARDED?
>>339766238
>No it hasn't. The Clefairy family was, but other than that.
The Clefairy line was primarily what I was thinking of, but I personally include Jigglypuff there. Gen I barely references the moon at all, but when it does the Normal type is usually involved. It was a minor association; very few Normal types are connected to the moon, but the moon is usually connected to Normal types.
>Even if we're only looking at Gen 1, neither Nidorina and Nidorino are Normal-type, while Jigglypuff has no stated connection to the moon.
Even counting the Nidorans as separate Pokemon, it's still fully half of the candidates. Enough for a minor association since I'm counting the stone as Jigglypuff's connection. Later gens added Skitty, another Normal type, and Munna, who has a tenuous connection because dreams.
>So was Morning Sun. I don't think it's indicative of anything.
I don't recall many references to the sun in Pokemon before now, so I can accept that maybe it didn't mean much then. The change to Fairy is what made me consider the move in the first place, though.
>No, Umbreon is definitely connected to the moon specifically.
Fair enough. I only remembered the dex entry mentioning Umbreon producing toxins and assumed the rest continued in that vein. Darkrai, though, is specifically connected to the moon's absence. Its entry makes note of the new moon and moonless nights. A connection, yes, but it actively avoids the moon.
>Pokemon like the Mr. Mime line, the Marill line, the Ralts line and the Whimsicott line were also turned into Fairy-types, despite having no connection with the moon.
Not all Fairy types need a direct connection to the moon, and several introduced in Gen VI aren't connected either. Like Normal in Gen I, it's a minor association that doesn't cover the entire type, but when the moon is involved it's usually Fairy nowadays.
>>339771043
This
>>339771043
At least it has a broken typing like another cancermon
>>339771043
>psychic steel
>clear body
So it's Lion Metagross?
>>339771043
>Metagross
>The mon so nice we made it three fucking times.
>twice as a champion's Ace, once as a mega, and now as a version legendary!
I can't wait to see the stat spread as just a special flip of Metagross.
>>339771770
Yes
>You are now imagining Meta Gross but with a permanent agility buff since this thing has gotta be fast
>>339765882
I glad there was at least one person who made this joke
>>339765437
>hahaha what a dumbass he thinks slugma is II
OH MY GOD
>>339765716
And together they make Shiva.
>>339771984
>special
judging from the trailer, Lunala is going to be the special based legend and Leo is going to be physical
L I T E R A L L Y
METAGROSS
Have you ever seen a pokemon so shitty that it is born with a diaper and has a shit coloured shiny?
>>339765437
>Slugma and Skarmory
>hard to find
>Skarmory is found in the path to your town after Clair's
>Slugma is in Cycling Road
>hard to find
Senpai, they're just retards. No reason to baby them.
>>339759486
Dark is "Evil" in the japanese version.
>>339772746
>Slugma is in Cycling Road
>Gen 2
Fuck that to hell, honestly. A majority of the new Pokemon in Gen 2 were locked to the after game. In Kanto. That's pretty retarded.
>>339759869
>sullying Bug type with gay ass dwagons
>>339767342
Is darkrai the Orphan of Kos?
>>339765745
>bug/fighting
Why the fuck not? It already has the little boxing gloves and everything.
>>339765437
I really hate how Pokemon were layed out in Gen 2/Gen 2 remakes
>decided to replay Heartgold and try to use things I've never used before
>"Oh hey, I'll use Misdreavus because that got an evolution in gen 4 and might be interesting"
>can't get it until the safari zone and can't get a stone until even later unless you want to do the Pokeathalon
>"I've always liked Murkrow. Maybe I'll use him"
>in the exact same boat as Misdreavus
>"Houndour might be cool to use, and I could use him as my fire type"
>locked off in fucking Kanto for some reason.
>"Sneasel is pretty neat, and Weavile is pretty strong. Maybe I'll use him"
>Can't get Sneasel until Mount fucking Silver and the evolution item is locked behind the fucking battle frontier.
>"Maybe I'll use Tyrogue and raise one of the Hitmons"
>You can't get Tyrouge until the end of the game
And a bunch of other evolution items being blocked off by things like Pokeathalon or random trainer calls was just stupid. I thought about using Vaporeon as my water type until I found out all the extra bullshit and/or waiting around I had to do just to evolve it. Ended up using Slowbro instead.
>>339772481
Well I guess they're going for the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" route.
Certainly doesn't help both legendaries can get their shit slapped by Dark.
Not sure where psychic=space comes from though.
>>339773696
>FR/LR
>have a Golbat
>What...? Golbat is evolving!
>it stopped....
EVERY
FUCKING
LEVEL
>>339763027
>Psychic being associated with space for some reason.
I think it's less about 'space' and more about 'ayy lmao and the paranormal' on top of the esper/magic shit
>>339759946
Why?
>>339759486
>sableye is top 3 favorite pokemon
>its gimmick is completely ruined by fairy type
i will never not be mad about this shit until they fix it
>>339763027
>Stop this. The moon has absolutely nothing to do with Dark as a type
Umbreon
>>339774215
Sableye and Mawile always seemed like two pokemon that should have had evolutions but never got them.
>>339773186
Kanto is just the last 1/3rd of the game, not postgame. Postgame is something you'd be doing after beating Red (like taking on Crystal's Battle Tower)
Still dumb you get so many gen 2 newcomers so late when their strength doesn't justify it at all in most cases, gen 2 had lots of shitmon
>>339774407
They're two pokemon with (at the time) really decent defensive types, based on cryptids.
Sableye is based on the Flatwoods monster Mawile is based on the same thing Filia from Skullgirls is based off of that I forget the name of.
>>339759486
>legendary with two 4x weaknesses
this is fine
>>339774129
>DRAGONfly pokémon
>Not Dragon/Bug
>>339774737
what? sableye is fucking nothing like the flatwoods monster
>>339775320
ok?
thats what its based off of
>>339774737
>flatwoods monster
nah man, it's probably some ayylien or cryptid but flatwoods monster it is not
>>339775627
>>339775320
Actually, he's the hopskinville goblin, a similar space freak dealio American Cryptid.
>>339775481
Source? The flatwoods monster has literally nothing to do with sableye, there is no similarity.
I believe that you are thinking of the kelly-hopkinsville goblin, he looks a lot like sableye.
>>339760043
The moon is only visible when it's reflecting sunlight. You can't see the moon when it's in the Earth's shadow.
>>339765090
>Most of gen 2 felt like rejects that didn't make it to gen 1 instead of fresh mons
Thats exactly what some of them were, though.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number_(Generation_I)
Personally I loved Gen 2's designs, I think they should be the example for all Pokemon designs in the future and I think Gen 3 is where the designs started changing for the worse. I could go more indepth but I don't really feel like it right now.
>>339765270
no its more like
4 > 5 = 2 = 1 > 3 > 6
>>339776569
Good, we don't need yet another crybaby rambling about how your personal opinions are what GF should follow and how Pokemon with more than four lines and two colors are "overdesigned", "Digimon", "not what I call Pokemon", "why isn't it like when I was a kid", etc.
>>339767019
Explain this
>Lunar pokemon
>>339774559
IMO, After-Game is what you play once the credits play the first time.
>>339765912
>the closest thing to Kamen Rider in Pogermong
>Heracross
>Bisharp
>>339776867
kek ok assmad hoennbabby
Though maybe I shouldn't have said "worse."
There are a lot of new pokemon whose designs I love.
But you have to see that there is a clear difference in style that started with Gen 3's mons.
You know you can see the moon in the daytime too
>>339763027
>The moon has absolutely nothing to do with Dark
Look at the fucking sky, when there's moon, it's dark.
>>339776952
That would mean gen 2 are the shortest and shittiest Pokemon games without question though
You can't end a Pokemon game 20 hours in when your team is barely breaking lv35 or whatever, and a Champ with lv50 Pokemon with nothing to expect after it would be weak
>>339766238
>>339763027
>>339766905
>>339771153
you dumbasses are missing the fucking point, the point is the moon shouldn't have x4 weakness to dark, not that it should be dark.
>>339777069
Because we started going to more places in different biomes, so of course the Pokemon would look different and more exotic, exactly as how real life works. African animals are a lot different from North American animals, which are very different from Australian animals. And if we're going to talk about "overdesigned", there are plenty of real animals that make the most overdesigned Pokemon look like Ditto.
>double weak to dark in a snatch heavy meta
Dead mon walking
>>339773214
>implying a hulking bug/dragon hybrid wouldn't be the most amazing shit ever
Imagine it, man. IMAGINE IT.
>>339777301
Look at this overdesigned turd
>all those unnecessary spikes
>that fucking gay pattern
absolutely shit tier, can't hope to compare to the classics like trout or dolphin
>>339777420
/vp/ already made one.
It's the Dragonite for their Fangame and it literally is just Dragonite with beetle bits.
>>339777286
IT'S NOT THE MOON, YOU FUCKING IDIOT, THE MOON ITSELF IS NOT A FUCKING POKEMON. IT'S A MYTHOLOGICAL BEING ASSOCIATED WITH THE MOON IN THE SHAPE OF A NOIVERN WITH A LUNATONE GLUED TO ITS FOREHEAD.
>>339777585
You talking about Basilect, or whatever it's called? Yeah, that thing looks awesome.
>>339777573
What ten year old designed this, way too many colors and trying too hard to be lol edgy xD.
>>339777420
Already been done by a fan gen.
From 4chan no less.
They had to make it the psudeolegendary just to make it viable due to getting fucking shat on by EVERYTHING
>Rotom lives in the pokedex and talks to you
We've seemed to become Yo-Kai watch all of a sudden.
>>339777775
It looks like shit anon.
It's just Dragonite with chitin.
Even the body shape is similar to a disgusting degree.
>>339763415
>The region was bland
It gets no blander than Kanto.
>Bland Pokémon
False. Objectively. Scizor, Mareep, Steelix, Fortress, Houndoom, Skarmory, Ariados, All three of the starter final evos, Politoed, Heracross, Hitmontop, Umbreon.
I could go on. Johto has awesome 'mons.
The exp grind is a legit problem though.
>>339777301
>and if we're going to talk about "overdesigned"
I literally never mentioned that buzzword in any of my posts. And I'm not talking about the inspiration of the pokemon themselves but the style of their designs.
>>339777981
I'm gonna go ahead and disagree, because I think it looks cool as fuck.
Then again I'm biased because I have a thing for bugs in pokermans games.
>>339759486
Actually bravo, makes perfect sense
>>339777053
Heracross is similar to Kamen Rider in that both are derived from the perception that bugs are masculine/fighters and kids like them. I'm fucking tired of people saying Bisharp is similar at all. No compound eyes, no antennae, no scarf, doesn't kick, has nothing to do with bugs, has nothing to do with justice or heroism, there's nothing in the dex relating to it, the dex actually says they're brutal hunters that move in packs, is in fact defined by being covered in blades. He's humanoid and because he's a steel type, he looks like he's wearing a armour or a costume. That's about it.
>>339779103
he looks like Gaim desu
>>339779232
Only part that looks anything like Gaim is the blade on his head, which is at a different angle and isn't the same type of ornament. At best it's trying to appeal to the same Samurai design idea that Gaim was, which is a few steps removed. Bisharp also predates Gaim by multiple years,and Gaim is a piss-poor representation of Kamen Rider ideals, themes, and even visual design.
>>339777573
God is clearly running out of ideas
>>339779517
I don't watch/know anything about Kamen Rider I just thought Bisharp looked like Gaim
>>339775097
>The pokemon which animal is based of has nothing to do with dragons
>Hurr durr but your japanese monster has to be dragon type because thats how we call them in murica
>>339777286
Because the moon itself is the light within the dark. In fact when the moon is on it's "dark side". it can't be seen. If it's the god of the moon, the dark obscuring it would make it seem like their god abandoned him. Making the dark it's enemy.
>>339759486
Without the moon, there is only darkness.
>>339769905
except dark has a ton of really good offensive moves while ghost has fuck all
>2016
>Still no dark gym
>2016
>New fairy type, gets gym
>2016
>still no dark gym
>2016
>>339777286
Why should the representation of the moon not be weak to Dark?
Dark as a type is not literal darkness and never was. It's about fighting dirty and evil stereotypes, or in the case of Absol and Darkrai being mistaken for evil. The moon has very little to do with that.
>>339782715
Why was it so surprising that Fairy got its own gym in the game it was introduced in?
Dark type is referred to "evil" and usually associated with thugs and criminals so maybe thats why it doesn't get one
>>339782715
>>339783678
Nope
it's more or less tradition/meme at this point
There will never be a dark gym.
>>339782715
No Dark type gym makes sense though. Look at most of the Dark type moves. Most of them are considered to fighting unfair. Biting your oponent, stealing from them or sucker punching them is not something a gym leader should order his Pokemon to do.
Keep in mind that gym leader are the ones who keep the peace of the cities and represent their types. People, and especially kids look up to them and want to be like them.
Now look at the elite four members who use Dark type. They mostly aren't people to look up to and many of their Pokemon have sandattack, which enforces the theme of fighting dirty.
>people are ok living in pokemon world where there are giant insects that will suck your juices for nourisment
>>339783948
I'd feed Pokemon my juices, if you know what I mean.
>>339783948
well what kind of choice do they have?
and the also get to enslave the bugs so everything is cool.
>make a big thing about Fairy types and fairy trainers being weird and always thinking about space and cosmic bodies
>the Moon pokemon isn't Fairy
Bravo Nintendo
>>339759486
>Moon Pokemon
>Should be Dark type
Edgelords pls go
>>339783890
This would makes sense if we didn't have Poison Gym Leaders.
>Fwahahahaha! I am Koga of the Elite Four. I live in shadows, a ninja! My intricate style will confound and destroy you! Confusion, sleep, poison... Prepare to be the victim of my sinister technique! Fwahahahaha! Pokémon is not merely about brute force--you shall see soon enough!
>>339784967
>Not reading the whole quote before posting it.
I'm retarded, but he was a Gym Leader at one point.
>>339784967
But status conditions are a legitimate strategy in pokemon. Its not "fighting dirty" like most dark type moves are.
>>339780757
They already made Flygon ground/dragon.
>>339785215
>Its not "fighting dirty"
Well, tell your Lopunny to get out of my Machoke's pants, and I'll get back to you. Double Team and Toxic are also bullshit. I'll stick with Night Slash and Payback.
>>339765437
>Think slugma and skarmory are Gen 3
>Read your post
>Think it's like Berenstein bears levels of fucking with me
>They're Gen 2
WHAT THE FUCK
>>339770764
This. Jesus Christ Fairy needs a nerf. It's so much stronger than Dragon ever was.
>3 resistances to common attacking types
>an immunity to another good attacking type
>SE against 3 types, and only resisted by 3
Not to mention that both the types that are SE against it are utter shit when it comes to offense. The reason Poison and Steel are shit offensive types isn't because they're not SE against much, since Dragon did fine with only being strong against itself, but because there are almost no good offensive moves in either type, and their distribution is piss poor. Fairy did nothing to buff Poison, it only nerfed Dragon, Bug, Dark, and Fighting for no reason.
Pokemon would be better if we just went back to gen 5 and made Ice resist dragon instead of just being super effective against it.
>>339765912
It's not if you count /vp/'s game
>>339777881
Except it's the best pokemon in sage's dex by far in terms of how good it is
That's not as bad as the sun lion that's weak to fire
>>339774312
>READING IS HAAAAAAAAAAAARD
>>339759486
dark is evil in japanese
moon is not evil in japan
>>339765912
Ledian is shit and easily one of the worst bug types. It's a disgrace to Kamen Rider
>>339782092
>>339769737
Don't you fucking lie. Dark has A good move, and then a semi-decent move in Sucker Punch that can either be really good or completely pointless.
And it's in the same boat as Ice type where the type itself is God awful and you'd never want your Pokemon to be one, but the moves (or Knock Off, in the case of Dark) game is ridiculous.
There are so few usable Dark types now it's ridiculous. Fairy type was a mistake.
>>339766494
My favorite as well.
>>339759486
First time I don't know which legendary to base my purchase on. Probably the digimon lion.
![250px-695Heliolisk[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/tSpfIjn.png "250px-695Heliolisk[1].png")
Reminder that Heliolisk has Dry Skin which means that it gets hurt in the sun
>>339788441
It also has Solar Power which means that it gets hurt in the sun.
>>339783948
forget the bugs
what about all the psychotic ghosts
Lunala could be fun with the right movepool and stat distribution.
680 BST leaves plenty of space for viability. Lets assume a spread of 100/80/100/150/100/150.
The speed is obviously not going to be that high, but it was shown to be possibly faster than Gengar in a trailer. The rest of that spread is great for the potential movepool a space psychic ghostbat would have.
>>339783948
counterpoint: you get to keep a bunch of giant animals as pets and make them beat up the giant insects
>>339789357
I can see Lunala having very high Speed and Special Attack, which alone makes him viable. Depending on the base power and type of his signature move he'll pack a punch, plus he'll very likely learn Moonblast to deal with Dark-types.
>Psychic attack
>Shadow Ball
>Moonblast
What would be a good fourth move?
>>339788160
good taste anon
>>339788824
This. Ghost Pokemon dex entries make them fucking terrifying.
>>339789738
Moongeist Beam
