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>>339741305
This isn't coh2.
>>339742210
Isnt CoH 2 literall CoH 1 with more DLCs and fancier colors?
>>339741305
Sudden Strike, simply because needing to supply your troops with ammunition was a great addition
>>339741305No longer shall the world be dominated!
>>339742210
Exactly.
>>339741305
Dawn of War is really good especially with mods like Ultimate Apocalypse. COH has fantastic mods like Blitzkrieg mod too.
Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander Forged Alliance are generally agreed as the best all around RTS's though.Men of War is even better than COH if you want realism, get the GSM Fields of Honor mod for it too.
>>339742523
mein neger
Von time I saw these funny little dancing puppets
>>339742523
>Gastraphetes: the game
FAF
Age Of Empires 2
Age Of Mythology
Warcraft 2/3
Starcraft + Brood War
C&C up to firestorm n Yuri Revenge
Total Annihilation
Warlords Battlecry 2/3
Warhammer (40k n fantasy)
Men Of War
Blitzkrieg
HomeWorld 1/2
Dune series
Dark Reign
Submarine Titans
But wait there's more!
>>339742864
>Warlords Battlecry 2/3
Come on man, 3 hasnt anything over except for some shitty copy pasted new races and inferior campaign map.
>>339742928
That's why i play 2 with perfect campaign
>>339742607
Was playing Dark Crusade earlier actually, I use the Titanium Mod because it works with Campaign.
>>339741305
Start by posting an RTS
>>339743047
You're not missing out, Ultimate Apocalypse is a massive turd.
Men of War is probably the best RTS/RTT to have ever been made.
>>339743047
I've only modded Soulstorm, what are the advatages of modding Dark Crusade aside from campaign? Do the mods add Sisters of Battle and all the content from Soulstorm into Dark Crusade. I don't understand the problems people had with Soulstorm.
>>339743175
In what way?
>>339743369
Bloated with low quality, buggy and extremely unbalanced content.
>post even one Company of Heroes related picture
>there's always at least one Men of War fanboy that comes out of the woodworks
Not sure if it counts as an RTS due to being a wargame, but I just love how in its core it's a game of counters. Like a Advance Wars.
>>339743369
>Do the mods add Sisters of Battle and all the content from Soulstorm into Dark Crusade.
Witchhunter mod, miles better than the sisters in Soulstorm aswell, except for some anime ugu faces,
> I don't understand the problems people had with Soulstorm.
For me a pretty underwhelming DE faction, a SHITTY version of the sisters compared to the DC mod and shitty fucking flyers, why THE FUCK did the IG not get Valks for air units HOLY SHIT
>>339743274
Fucken this, in fact I think it's possible the perfect video game. The more time I spend playing it the more I start to believe it's the ultimate game. While you can't really compare /v/ classics like Dues Ex, VtMB, MGS3, Thief or SS2 to an RTS/RTT game, I think I enjoy MoW as much or even more than those games.
It's like the game is made especially for me, everything I have ever wanted in a game is there. I love it.
>>339743274
Too bad it runs like dog shit with lots of AI on the map.
>>339742864
>not including generals and zero hour
Other than that it's a respectable list
>>339742607
>Universe at War
I'M TOO YOUNG TO DIE
RIP Petroglyph
>inb4 8-bit armies
>>339741305
how is rise of nations/legends?
that industrial faction looked kinda neat
Anybody play Dark Reign 2? I liked it a lot back then, but I don't know if its actually any good.
>>339743175
So I've read.
Personally I like Titanium because it feels like a good mix of FoK and UA.
>expanded armies
>higher unit cap
>TITANS
>they're actually good too
>commander upgrades/armory in Skirmish
I've never played an RTS before, where should I start?
>>339743528
>this shit continues since like 2008
It was even worse with Starfags before /vg/ split tho
>>339744146
AoE2 HD
FOr me, Tiberian Sun is the goddest of tiers
>>339743175
>Ultimate Apocalypse is a massive turd.
>shit at RTS so I have to play against AI
>its literally turteling until you get some good troops
>>339744146
Chess
Motherfuckin' World in Conflict
>>339744146
>>339744221, or Age of Mythology if you prefer fantasy.
>>339744224
I loved those red alert maps were you had like 1-5 units for infiltrating a compund and stuff.
Really wished to have something similiar with Tiberian Sun and mutant cities/mutant animal maps.
>>339742308
The only thing about CoH2 I don't like are the p2w commanders, even if they are a necessary evil to keep the game afloat. Everything else is superior to 1.
>>339744146
Warcraft 3 campagin.
Or just Rise of Nations vs AI for slow comfy games.
>>339743528
I think a sizable amount of the COH fanbase enjoyed COH because it was the more realistic historical based RTS yet released, I remember how intense it was when I first played it and I loved it. I still do, but when you discover Men of War you just can't go back. I still play COH from time to time but it's different now, just for some RTS fun now.
>>339743765
This, it's the only flaw the series has. But I can still have upwards of 200+ AI soldiers on screen before it starts shitting up my framerate.
>>339743509
Would you say Firestorm over Kuarava is better? I only recently got into 40k and Dawn of War so I am still learning stuff about it. I tried some FoK this week and I like that it's more realistic but I had no idea how to do anything for a while, probably should have read through the readme, it really is a big overhaul.
>>339743609
So is Witchhunter an exclusive mod for Dark Crusade? Aside from SoB and DE what did Soulstorm even add? If you mod in those 2 factions to Dark Crusade is there anything you are going to miss out on? Do all mods for DoW work with both DC and SS?
>that feel when i will never get to play metal fatigue against another human being ever in my life
>>339742607
What a shitty infographic. Won't go over it all but worst offense is recommending Empire at War in the slightest. It's spirital precursor, Rebellion, is superior in most departments and where it's not it still isn't very fun.
>>339744472
>p2w commanders
I find base ones to be mostly superior.
Ostheer is an exception because it makes your play much more fun with Osttruppen or Elite.
Oh also THIS if anyone remembers it
>>339742479
By the FOOLS!!
Eternal GOAT
>>339742607
>recommending SW Empire at War
Disgusting
>>339741305
Reminder to use your beautiful weeb skins from Segajew
>>339744596
Ground battles in EaW are bad, Space Battles are decent, with mods it actually becomes good. Try out Thrawns Revenge. Also I didn't even make that image.
>>339744681
Is this the game where you command army of robots from a bunker?
And can construct a multi-laser bot to feel like some Power rangers attack?
>>339744531
>So is Witchhunter an exclusive mod for Dark Crusade?
>Do all mods for DoW work with both DC and SS?
I do not know, it has been ages since played modded DoW, the modding community tried to make some mods available for Soulstorm, check moddb.
>Aside from SoB and DE what did Soulstorm even add?
Flyers, pretty buggy, shitty and therefore useless flyers.
Interesing planet system that dropped the interesting map from DC, honestly, what the fuck was that? give every planet a designed like in DC and it would have been miles better.
>>339744806
Those space battles are top notch, stop talking shit mate.
Especially if you add mods, like Steiners, but that one got convuloted with units, at least back then
>>339744826
Space Battles are literally the only department where EaW outdoes Rebellion. Rebellion did the smart thing and recognized a half-assed RTS component slapped on wouldn't have done the game justice and they just left it as an stat-based RNG algorithm. But grand campaign for Rebellion is jsut all around better and is the primary focus of both Rebellion and EaW. You're shortchanging yourself with EaW.
>>339745006
Yes it is
Also smth from my country
Earth 2140 to 2160
Shill
>>339743274
this game is such a mixed bag, on one hand i enjoy it immensely, on the other hand it's so poorly made, pathfinding is awful, AI is retarded, runs like shit and so on
>>339745254
As a teen I never finished it because some general nuked my ass every time.
now CD is lost in time ;_;
>>339745254
>2140
>Oh cool that looks neat
>wait why is a fucking skeleton roboter killing me
>oh god its lagging
>its lagging like SHIIIIIIIIIIT
nice games for wasting a bit of time
>>339743274
Ranges are kinda fucky, some stuff is really short ranged, but then stuff like tank guns can fire almost across the map. Why are bazookas and the like basically melee weapons. I know they weren't long ranged weapons, but they're only effective to like 50m in game instead of 200, or at least 100m.
>>339745189
I've never played Rebellion before, I just like messing around in Skirmish with space battles with mods.
>>339745132
>need mods to be good
You and STALKERfags should be thrown of a cliff
>>339745642
>>need mods to be good
Nice implications.
>>339745642
wat? most STALKER players advocate playing the games without mods
>>339744472
>Everything else is superior to 1.
Fan of both and i can prove you right with one single wordmodding
>>339745314
>MoW is poorly made
Take it back, take it back right now!
>>339745469
Get GSM mod, it increases the gun range and a whole lot of other things to make it even more realistic.
>favorite RTS doesn't run on new hardware/os
>>339744807
Kinda wish they changed the tank models to be like VC
Also i think the Galia skin will be better for the germans
>tfw keep losing in 1v1's
What's the secret brehs? I had the last game in the palm of my hand, and then I fumbled the T2-transition ;_;
Gave him a run for his money though.
>>339743274
Tää, I absolutely love the first MoW
I'm really confused as to what exactly is wrong with the UA mod.
I get the love for FoK, and if it is anything like the kronus version in DC, yeah, it's a more faithful and close to tabletop experience.
But i like the focus of big battles in UA and adds another layer to the game.
Either way, it's not like you have to buy the mod so at least give it a try and form your own opinion.
>>339745732
Wrong word.
And the thing that makes the second game so much better is that infantry stay behind the sandbags you dig for them and doesn't run out in front of them at first sight of an enemy.
>>339742607
why arent sci fi games stemming from starcraft
>>339744673
Americans and Soviets also need commanders for large scale games because they have no heavies or at least decent tanks otherwise.
>>339746081
>Wrong word.
Not really, modding in 2 is reduced to stat changes and skins, not much else.
You are free to prove me wrong
I'm ashamed to share a board with such scum that haven't even acknowledged Sins of a Solar fucking Empire yet.
>>339746141
That game was so disappointingly short, though.
>>339745889
>Galia skin will be better for the germans
How did they fuck it up? It should be Galia for germans, Alliance for Soviets and Federation for bongs and USF.
Another forgotten titles
Spellforce series
ParaWorld
Rise And Fall
Black & WhiteCultures 2 and Settlers up to 5
>>339746415
Fuck yeah Soase is dope.
Vasari loyalist master race.
>>339743593
>but I just love how in its core it's a game of counters.
How? With the exception of AA, counters are available to vehicles across the spectrum.
>>339746415
Don't look at me, TEC Loyalist master race right here
>>339746510
Yeah, Galia for the soviets is kinda dumb
>>339741305
Shameless begging, does anyone have a safe download of this? Its been too long.
>>339742210
And?
>>339745746
>Take it back, take it back right now!
Not that anon but MoW in undeniably quirky. The AI pretty dim, the physics often bug out hilariously.
Battle for Middle Earth was great. So was BFME 2
who /worldinconflict/ here?
>>339746510
>>339745889
Well Imperials were just Germans living in Russia.
But I know what you are coming at.
>>339746897
Nobody in VC has russian tanks because they are ugly.
Landships are an exception.
>>339747171
The game was released in an era when I was filled with optimism and excitement for the gaming industry.
>>339745784
Looks like a Cossacks clone. That is a compliment.
I just recently bought the warhammer 40k dawn of war gold edition which had the base game and winter assault. I have been loving it and was wondering if the dlcs are worth?
Homeworld 1 and 2
Homeworld reamstered giant patch coming soon too
-fixed formations
-balance changes
-more modding tools
-bug fixes for single player
Deserts of Kharak seems to be dead though, nobody plays multiplayer. Sad because I got it on sale after the hype died down, and I started playing a dead game. RIP
>>339747171
It's a damn shame what happened to that game.
The constant crashing toward the end of the campaign makes it virtually unplayable for me, not to mention that the multiplayer is dead as can be.
Criminally underrated
>>339747241
Please let this game be good.
>>339747371
DLC's? you mean Dark Crusade and Soulstorm? Dark crusade definitely, Soulstorm meh
also ill play with you senpai
![the-battle-for-middle-earth-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PpyAyy2.jpg "the-battle-for-middle-earth-1[1]")
>>339741305
>>339747371
>dlc
Those are expansions, boy, from a bygone age.But yes, Dark Crusade and Soulstorm are great, if prone to Eldar favoritism.
>>339747472
Campaign was pretty repetitive desu, take this spot then defend it while bombarding enemies, rinse and repeat
>>339747486
Hope is the first step.
>>339747241
>that big Warmachine thing
We /skub/ now?
>>339747241
Who the fuck are they going to use next as an enemy?
Dawn of War 2 focused on Tyranids and Chaos.
Will Dawn of War 3 go for Dark Eldar or Necrons?
>>339747272
>Nobody in VC has russian tanks because they are ugly.
But this one always reminded me of the BT-2
>>339747684
Well considering the only playable races are Orks, Eldar, and Space Marines its probably just some generic conflict between them on a forge world
>>339747241
>>339747648
Am I the only one who can't stand that aesthetic?
>>339747684
Suffer not the ancient xenos, anon.
>>339747684
It's a new game so the cycle begins a new. Be hyped for the reveal that Tyranids are once again the enemy. And for the first expansion to be Imperial Guard.
>>339742210
>P2W DLC
>Absolutely shit tier balance for over a year now
>Old factions don't get the same love as new factions
CoH2 is pretty shit famalan.
>>339747837
>>339747897
>>339747902
>A "catastrophic weapon" is discovered on the planet Acheron, and three forces converge on the planet - the Blood Ravens Space Marines under legendary commander Gabriel Angelos, the Eldar led by Farseer Macha (returning from the first game), and an Ork horde led by Warlord Gorgutz (his fourth appearance, after Winter Assault, Dark Crusade, and Soulstorm).
>>339747272
Could've done the central empire because nobody cares about those dudes anyways.
>>339742607
>Stronghold 2
>Not Crusade
Here a updated one
>>339747885
Nope.
Most people can't stand the game too, especially after the original DoW that was nothing like this new crap.
Not to mention the extreme DLC jewing.
>>339747975
You are not incorrect
>>339747981
>A "catastrophic weapon" is discovered on the planet Acheron
What could it possibly be?
>>339742607
>god of RTS
>TA
command and conquer came out 2 years before it, and i'm sure something predates command and conquer. this image is retarded.
>>339742607
>Rise of Legends
Fuck, I loved that one. Totally forgot about it though...
>>339745694
>Space battles for base game of EaW is anything but bare minimum service to what is supposed to be the biggest draw for the game.
Get out of here with this weak-ass bait, Fagatha Christie.
>>339742607I like StarCraft
>>339748080
>supcom 2
still hurts
>>339747975
>buying any of those commanders
fuck that, just get the mod that unlocks all the units. I'm frankly surprised Relic is letting it stay up
>>339746141
>deserts of Kharak
MUH DICK
i am building a new PC just for this game
i wasn't going to but god damn it looks good
anyone ever play this?
>>339744302
Wouldn't that be turn based?
>>339748341
Enjoy your ban.
>>339748365
It was ok.
>>339748148
>What could it possibly be?
Either something from the Necrons or Chaos
>>339746415
4x games are not RTS games
>>339743274
MoW is propably the best WW2 RTS game there is currently, i have hundreds of hours in assault squad 2.
>>339748449
Are you retarded? It's on the front page of the mod workshop in-game.
>>339747243
my nigga. neo-/v/ doesn't know about this game of course.
havent played in so long, i forget if you could mass sacrifice thralls as minotaurs to get stronger units early or not
>>339747537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKJlOze2Ako
I used to come home every day after middle school in like in 8th grade and play this for hours.
>>339748314
Nice implications and actual arguments going on buddy.
>>339743274
>play the desert map with the airfield
>spawn a jeep and bomb towards the planes
>jump a man out and get in a plane
>fly around in a p-51 the whole game strafing the ground units
Absolutely class
>>339747061
>>>339747537
These were the greatest. I have a mega of BFME 2 so I can unzip, install, and play LAN with my brothers when we all visit. God damn, I miss playing rts with them. Growing up and apart is the saddest fucking thing. You can do shit that annoys them or they can annoy you and piss you off and forget the next day or even later that same day so as long you're family. If you do shit like that with friends they hold on to it or vice versa.
>>339747241
>>339747648
I going to miss the dreadnought
>>339748630
Dark Elves had sacrifice research that allowed them to summon Demon via sacrifice.
You could get it via quest aswell
>>339748365
I grew up on it ad thought it was fun. It was all I ever knew though so I could be wrong about how great it was compared to other things.
Original War
I've never played multiplayer, although there is a small cult following online. Played through the campaigns more than a few times though.
>>339748671
jesus christ i was in my third year of college when that game came out in 2004, which means you showed up to 4chan after habbo hotel, making you cancer.
i guess what everyone says about neo-/v/ is right.
>play Universe at War
>buggy as shit
>game keeps cutting to black, I have to alt-tab to fix it
Good ideas I guess. Cult classic.
>>339747885
>>339748095
Yes you are.
Everyone thinks that they look a lot more like the actual tabletop models.
If they went with Cartoony shit then no one would like it.
>>339749117
tablet/mobilecuck pls go
>>339742607
>wait for dawn of war 3 like the rest of us
>>339748961
>habbo hotel
Shit game.
If you ever played that game you're a cancerous faggot, though since you've been on 4chan for over a decade, most of us already know that.
Your thoughts?
>>339748557
>Playing mods and not ladder
lul
>>339747041
How is the AI bad? I love watching them in the editor mode, seems pretty good to me. I've seen them do smart stuff before compared to other games that have brain dead AI.
>>339749338
I'm too plebian for this shit, I just don't like that time period
>>339749117
But it DOES look like cartoony shit.
DoW and even DoW 2 looked better.
>>339748961
>neo /v/
Congrats, you're older than a 24 year old, do you want some special award?
>making you cancer
Well I probably have better taste than you anyway, but I don't really care what you think.
:D
>>339747885
I'm not a fan, looks to garish
>>339748912
>Original War
Yeah, that damn game is fucking amazing. More reactivity and more natural integration of choices into a story that in an average RPG. Pretty unique mechanics. Actually suprisingly good story, despite the over cheeziness.
A real underrated gem. Shame it got gutted (entire campaign cut out, multiple endings cut out, sequel canned) because critics back then were retards. Real damn shame.
>>339743274
Truth right here. Manually controlling single units is god-tier shit in this game.
>>339741305
What is the best mod for the first CoH?
>Get bored with Dark Crusade
>Remember I never finished Winter Assault
>Try the Order campaign again
>Get my anus blasted wide open
Jesus Christ I don't remember it being this difficult
>>339741305
What's there not to like about this game?
Any good RTS games out there with decent modern graphics? I've tried SC2, MoW 1 & 2, CoH 1 & 2.
>Ctrl+f
>No Myth
You fucking failed. Again.
>>339749409
>playing a P2W game competitively
I'm not a cuck
>>339749501
>but I don't really care what you think
the fact that you responded says otherwise
>>339749783
Are you the same Mythfag in every thread? if soI love you bro, Myth 2 is my GOTYAY.
>>339749783
>Micro Micro Management the game.
>>339749754
Homeworld: Shipbreakers has a pretty visuals. The game itself is disappointing in many respects, but if you want something good looking.
If you'll patient, wait till the promised massive update for Homeworld: Remastered - if that fixes the issues the game currently has, you'll have a great AND beautiful RTS on your hands.
Now telling when the HWR fixes are coming out though.
>>339742210
Good job anon.
You really got me there.
>>339748961
Just lol
>>339749234
After that sick trailer, how could you ever NOT be hyped for it?
>>339747171
>Massive now works for Ubisoft
>they're a minor studio working on Farcry, Ass Creed, and whatever else Ubisoft wants shoved out faster
There is no justice in the world.
>>339749894
I was in two or three. This series is one of best ones in entire genre and everyone fucking forget it. Except part 3 that suck ass.
>>339749934
>Barely any micro management system with veterans.
>>339749934
Fuck you, It's an RTT and requires more thought and has more depth than the majority of cookie cutter RTS out there.
>>339750040
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>>339750021
>The game itself is disappointing in many respects
i will fucking fight you
>>339747324
its made by the same developer
>>339750040
Filtered for not contributing original content and wearing a tripcode
Even Lanced Jack was better.
>>339750048
I guess they're not so Massive anymore
Whats the best rts rtt to play online?
Seems like coh coh2 red dragon aoe2 and starcraft 2 are the only games with actice playerbases
>>339750245
For what? It's a complete fuck-up of the original Homeworld's law with multiple retcons that make no sense, the story is underwhelming, so is A.I. and enemy variety. Multiplayer-wise the game lacked basic functionalities and any longevity at all. Frankly, if it wasn't for the HW label and really damn pretty art direction it would be a subpar RTS.
>>339749670
>best mod
CoH, m9
>>339750173
>>339750375
Nice samefag. I can see that being a cringey old-fag has you butt-bothered.
I bet you're also the same manchildren that go around thinking that 10+ years on steam makes you edgy-cool.
Thanks for contributing cancer to the thread.
>>339749670
Blitzkrieg
![e25fb470257bcf90c7de9ca8e51b0413[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/922j5q5.png "e25fb470257bcf90c7de9ca8e51b0413[1]"){kind=small}
>>339750846
>tfw the Blitzkrieg Anthology is on steam
Does mount and blade qualify as an RTS? or is it more of a grand strategy with RTS elements?
>>339750481
I said before release, and after playing it, i still think it holds true.
It should be about the Vaygr finding the second hypercore, not shitting on the Kushan for the second time.
>Have a WHOLE GALAXY to use
>Refuse to do anything outside the same nation
>>339750736
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>>339751282
Oh for fucks sake not twice in the same thread, Filter and move on pasta fag.
>>339751260
>It should be about the Vaygr finding the second hypercore, not shitting on the Kushan for the second time.
Actually, I would like it the most if it wasn't an official part of HW universe, so that it would actually keep a sense of fresh mystery and not spoil itself by being a prequel with predetermined, obvious ending.
They should have made it a game about mysterious planet covered in derelicts for reasons that nobody understands. Make it a mystery story. Let us wonder what the fuck is going on.
>>339751374
>Filter and move on
Well if you insist.
>>339750040
>>339750736
>>339751491
>he uses a name on an anonymous image board
fucking kill yourself
>>339751696
>he gets angry that others use a feature he's too stupid to use
kys
>>339751696
Stop giving him attention and ruining the thread.
>>339751696
anon theres nothing wrong with tripfags as long as they contribute OC
the most famous comics from all of 4chan, pic related, were drawn by 3 Angled Blue, a tripfag.
Years ago, almost EVERY bit of original content on the site was from a tripfag.
Anyone using a name or tripcode in a thread without providing original content is a faggot.
>>339751870
>>339751696
>>339751374
>>339751282
>literally samefagging this hard
Yea, we get it, you got BTFO, just shut the fuck up.
>>339751996
Pssh, nothin personal kid.
>>339750048
didnt they make the division?
>>339751481
Personally, with how underused the rest of the homeworld universe is, you could get away with it if you don't place the game on KharakThe Taiidan carrier thing was fucking retarded
>>339751125
It is an action game with light strategic elements.
>>339749623
>multiple endings cut out
really? i know about the arab campaign, but nothing about that
Are there any recommended mods for any of the Men of War games, or should I play vanilla? It seems like the type of game that would have an AI improvement mod, etc.
>>339753256
GSM Fields of Honor, though there are plenty of other good mods too just check the workshop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXF8XK5IgTA
Perimeter was such a great game.
Too bad mastermind behind it leaved company so second part turned out to be complete shit, and there never will be 3rd.
>>339742479
/thread
Thank god for OpenRA
>>339753256
Valour mod doesn't change ranges like GSM but still adds more nations and vehicles
>>339752962
>really? i know about the arab campaign, but nothing about that
There was supposed to be another set of endings directly tied to the Arabian Shieks storyline, which was eventually cut entirely.
There were also I believe intended to be like two or more missions on each side, and of course, the whole Arabian campaign.
Gonna be honest with you my dearest friends, I'm pretty disappointed at the news of base building being back in DoW3. I'll refrain from judgement at this time but it doesn't really fit the setting unless each race has radically different building methods.
If every fucking race has a barracks a factory and other basic starcraft analogs then I'll be pretty fucking disappointed.
Any COH2 player here?
How do you beat simcity players?
No Impossible Creatures? Game was fun as hell
>>339751996
post the rest
>>339755180
I bet you think DoW2 is better than DoW 1
Nexus: The Jupiter Incident
Space RTS, with an ok story, and a decent gameplay. Shame the kickstarter for the 2nd episode failed.
>>339754407
ok, is there somewhere more info on that?
google comes up with anything but what im searching for
>>339744557
Surprisingly, I know this pain.
>>339756060
I do actually. Especially with Elite mod DoW2 is fantastic for online skirmishes. I also like the focus on micro instead of just attack moving blobs. It also feels closer to the source material to be honest.
I'm ok with base building but don't just phone it in. Make it fit the universe. There's no reason every race should have essentially the same basic tech tree, that's just dumb.
>>339756304
Its a pure RTT and I don't think a good sequel can be funded with Kickstarter.
Let the game die in peace.
>>339756060
>comp stompers want to discuss taste
We all know the story was beyond garbage, but from a purely mechanical/gameplay standpoint it's god-tier.
Is there ever going to be a new Age of Empires or Command & Conquer?
>>339756060
Games are radically different. But I can see why you would prefer DoW1.
The only thing I hate about DoWII is the fact that they didnt actually try to make an action RPG out of it.
>>339756778
>closer to the source material
>the least ammount of unit variety for a 40k game
>closer to the source material
Heroes are shit, 100 pop cap is shit, nigh on unkilllable main base for all those 20 min no rush plz faggots is shit
>>339757184
I still don't like the graphics. It's too bright and colorful to be Starcraft.
Not to mention the whole system of "everything has a certain role and counters" is boring and oversimplified.
>>339757232
C&C is dead in the water and I wouldn't even want them to make a new one. Give me Westwood or nothing.
>>339757470
You're not supposed to kill the main base, you capture the victory points.
The variety wasn't really that bad and everything served a purpose.
By being close to the source material I meant that the scale is much closer to the majority of tabletop games and the squad sizes were fine. A chapter of marines is only like 1000 and it was conceivable to lose hundreds in a single game of DoW pretty easily.
Heroes are totally fine, Warhammer is a universe full of heroic figures and even DoW had quasi hero units.
3 lines of greentext followed by just calling things shit isn't really a solid argument. But I guess I am on /v/.
Maybe DoW 3 will take the best parts of both games who knows, I just hope it's not standard as fuck base building where you just go through the motions every game.
>>339742607
>Stronhold 2 over Crusader
FUCK
YOU
>>339757854
>Not to mention the whole system of "everything has a certain role and counters" is boring and oversimplified.
I'm not sure where you are getting this from. Some units are very stuck in their roll but many units are multi-purpose and versatile.
>>339744531
>COH because it was the more realistic historical based RTS yet released
Ironically, COH is as realistic as Call of Duty
>>339742607
Handy
I wish I could get C&C zero hour again. And make it work on my pc.... Loved that game
>>339757938
Ok, you wanna actually argue, here:
The problem is that half the races feel off to play, orks aren't fun when you have a 100 pop cap, it's almost insulting, same with IG and specially tyranids.
If they wanted to go more tactical, why the fuck do eldar have 3 grav platforms instead of just one that can be upgraded? or why devastator marines can't upgrade to plasma cannons and instead rely on that being a separate units? why is the upgrade side of the ui only capable of having 4 upgrades top for each unit?
Why the fuck do tyranids get 2 heroes that are basicly buffed up normal units with not a single change in their models? same with warp spider exarchs, kommando nob etc., hell, you can replace the warp spider with the autarch and would be lore acurate, better and more interesting.
I'm not against heroes in a 40k game, but the choices they made were lazy, why not broodlords for tyranids? why not a vehicle commander for the IG?
In the end, i enjoyed parts of DoW2, but it could have been better, i like the elite mod, it added new things like dark reapers, fire dragoons, sternguard marines, khorne berserkers, etc. and hell, the skins are cool to look at, but it is not enough for a 40k game, where one of the main strenghts is the variety in the races.
>muh realism
Realism doesn't work that well for RTS, you always have to absract some stuff like in a tabletop wargame, the balance and the gameplay should matter more.
>>339758797
That's fair. I don't think it's perfect I just think it's better than DoW 1 personally. I would imagine some of your complaints are balance issues or at least were perceived that way, the Dev to Pdev thing for example but some of it was just laziness e.g. the hero models.
I guess at the end of the day I'd rather see an improved and expanded DoW2 because I prefer the gameplay than an improved and expanded DoW1. However if DoW3 can somehow take the great parts from both then that's the best of both worlds.
>>339745189
I played the hell out of Rebellion when I was younger and really, really liked it.
The cool way you could use heroes and how the Rebel Alliance had to operate by winning over planets with diplomacy and subterfuge was miles better than EaW's fucking spam stacks of units and build mines on every planet except one or two for production.
>>339758445
Realistic is a marketing buzzword that was used for AoE and Red Alert too.
Even games like Blitzkrieg or MoW need to simplify things for gameplay sake.
>>339749117
>more like the actual tabletop models
>less like cartoony shit
this is a contradiction, anon
>>339759129
The thing is, i played something similar to DoW2, it was called firestorm over kronus.
It had the same concept of vehicles being impervious to damage from normal weapons, tactical focus, a shitton more squad customization, new units, and, best of all, 7 races, and with the one for soulstorm, 9 races,
It gave me everything i wanted for a tactical game, and honestly gave me more content than DoW2.
Yeah, it doesn't have pretty graphics, and garrisonable buildings, but it had a lot more care put into it, to the point where i consider it a better game overall.
>>339759502
>need to simplify things for gameplay sake.
Is hard to justify tanks being two dimensional though
>>339742607
I don't see Battle Realms there. That was an interesting RTS where worker units are also a resource, water and fire mechanics (water can help boost production of other resource and puts out buildings set on fire), Yin & Yang mechanics (rewarding aggression), actually sending units inside buildings to be trained/upgraded, and so on.
Granted, it's an Asian-themed RTS and is an acquired taste, but it's something different and fun.
dude i was playing some company of heroes today and will someone explain to me how the fuck it is fun to watch one german soldier be under constant gunfire for literally 30 seconds before the RNG finally decides to kill him?
it's the biggest most annoying problem with all fucking relic games, the weapons aren't nearly lethal enough, or at least the damage calculations don't reflect what's happening on screen at all, particularly in infantry on infantry combat,
It's okay if you're just playing on easy or normal or something but on brutal / expert, literally you have to have 3 full airborne squads dumping into one fucking german rifleman squad in no cover for about a minute to get the kills
look the games fun but honestly, what the fuck, its the same in dawn of war II. enemies are just massive bullet sponges and your soldiers appear to have apparently never held a gun before. I assume its because behind the scenes it's all just dice rolls or something.
>>339759635
I'll concede some of the DoW1 mods are pretty great, but the capability of playing skirmishes against other players easily and ideally with good balance is a key component of enjoying an rts to me and I was never able to find one that I could find people online with. I enjoy campaigns once or twice and I might enjoy half a dozen comp stomps to get my feet under me, but that's about it.
DoW2 Elite is balanced really well, has some interesting additions to the base game and I can usually find a game within a few minutes. The game functions really well for team games two as it almost breaks down into a series of 1v1s with people interfering in other fights. It just hits all the right notes for me.
>it's another "/v/ makes an rts thread but only posts rtt" thread
>>339742210
CoH1 is the only time where I really stopped and thought "wow it's truly like going backwards in time"
Muddier graphics and textures, worse explosions, sounds, voices, characterization and gameplay with microtransactions.
>>339760218
CoH2 i meant.
CoH1 is incredible.
>>339749740
Nobody knows our joy
>>339744146
AoE2 (and expansions) for the gameplay
Warcraft 3 (and expansion) for the campaign
Dawn of War (and expansions) for the voice acting
>>339760071
I'm not going to deny that the elite mod did a lot of good for the MP comunity, and yeah, it must be extremely hard to get a MP of FoK in either soulstorm or DC.
So yeah, it's easy to access and there is nothing wrong with that.
And it's fair that i give praise to DoW2, because it did many things well.
Eldar play fucking amazing in DoW2, no longer are rangers a squad of 8 that tickles the enemy, but a competent sniper that goes around the battlefield offing infantry, the heroes and wargear mechanics are good too, each piece giving more than just stats (for the most part) was good and no wargear was objectively better.
Sound design and VA was also great and fit the setting, and the units all reacting to each other gave a nice sense of scale to it.
>>339760183
>muh tactics VS strategy
nobody give a shit you autist
>>339757232
>>339757918
They keep re-releasing the same C&C under new titles for full price, its absurd.
>>339760629
Yeah Rangers are scary as fuck. Typically take a model and suppress the squad while being invisible and far away.
Banshees are terrifying too.
>>339744302
Chess is a crappy tactical turn based RPG developed by a bunch of monkeys.
Right away you'll notice Chess has no storyline. Instead, all you notice is the the White army and the Black army are fighting each other over a battlefield. Note the "a battlefield," because Chess only has one story map.
As for the actual combat, it's extremely dull. Each unit can kill another with only one hit. This means units with a real good movement ability dominate the field (more on that bellow). There aren't even any combat animations or anything that happens in combat. One unit moves on it's space and "captures" it, and the piece is removed from the game with no form of action or special effects.
Yawn.
Chess has shitty class balance. The Queen is flat out overpowered while your actual front line units, the Pawns. can't do shit. I think the developers were afraid that no one would use the female character so they buffed up her abilities really high but now theres no point in using any other unit.
The rest of the units suck. Rooks can only move in 4 directions, same with Bishops. Boring. Also, whats up with the Knight? It has the most bizzare combat abilities of all the units. They're retardly hard to use cause they jump around like retards to move and attack. The devs should have named this unit Ninja, since Knights didn't jump around like that in real life.
Worst part, is the king. You see, the devs decided that if your king gets captured, you instantly lose the game. W-T-F? This wouldn't be a problem, except that he can't move for crap. Seriously, the most important unit in the game can only move 1 space a turn? Good luck keeping him alive while every other unit in the game dances around him.
Unbalanced classes, lackluster gameplay, and not to mention repetitive 1 hour+ games. Chess is not worth the time or your money. Buy Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea instead.
3 out of 10.
>>339760548
This dude knows
>>339747272
>Nobody in VC has russian tanks
>>339761770
K. This is like one clear russian archetype without any mutations.
>>339759679
what do you mean?
>>339751069
Fuck yeah Assault Squad 2! I spend hours of my autistic life building scenarios in the GEM editor. And then watch the AI battle it out to the end.
>>339760183
Don't fall for the meme that classic RTS are tactical games just because they require micro, they aren't tactical games because they don't simulate tactical level elements like unit formation and facing mattering, line of sight and stuff like that, instead they focus on resource management.
>>339744146
Red alert 2 if you want to have fun.
This + Ultimate Apocalypse + Tyranids/Daemonhunters/Daemons mods is the ultimate 40k experience
>>339759952
It's been a while since I played COH1, but I don't remember infantry being that hardy. When they are pinned, yeah, it'll take a bit since they're hugging the ground, but otherwise models will drop fairly quickly during regular combat. For COH2, at least, exposed infantry gets raped hard.
>>339744146
About 20 years ago before the genre died.
>>339761770
>>339747272
I have them, thanks to the ebin skins relic released that caused CTD every second.
>>339760504
>>339749740
My niggas! I loved that comfy music.
>>339763157
But UA sucks
>>339749670
NHC. Lots of new units, increased resource production and unit cap for larger battles. Oh and arty gets range boosts.
>playing coh 2
>Fighting tactically and going from cover to cover
>struggling to keep the horde of germans from taking mah points, winming and maintaining reaources for tanks
>Suddenly its 30 mins
>Suddenly germans come with five panthers, 2 jadpanzer, a tiger ace and 2 fucking panzerschrekt blobs
>When I finally put a tank out It gets killed by blobs and pretty much all german tanks (now all vetted)
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
I fucking hate this game
>>339757854
>Not to mention the whole system of "everything has a certain role and counters" is boring and oversimplified.
So like the military in real life then.
>>339746893
>Tec Turtleist
>Letting Xenos keep their spoils instead of purging
Fuck no Rebels nigga
>>339748821
theres a dreadnought in the picture
KKND2 was the best when I was a kid
>>339760218
The voices I thought were great. Hell they even have more lines
Who else is best clan here?The overall game design is so perfect that all four factions are fun and interesting to play
>>339765262
I fucking sucked at it as a kid, I tried to win everything with nothing but top tier unit spam but mixed squads and ability use was really important.
>>339764183
Thank god the upcoming patch will make blobs less bullshit.
>panzershrek removed from volks and given to sturmpioneers
>anti-tank guns (shrek/piat) now deal 25% damage against infantry
>>339764750
This game had incredible music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEaY-4vI2Xs
>>339764183
The only unbalanced germans are the OKW who have been cancer for fucking years now.
>Here is a new faction that is balanced around having low resource income and weak anti-infantry options in favour of the strongest late game tanks, infantry, and support weapons in the game
>They also have pretty much free anti-tank shrecks on their core infantry unit to shut down vehicles and tanks
>Wait are the OKW players crying? Then let's remove their resource penalties and population cap
>Are they still complaining? Let's give them a HMG team to fix their anti-infantry issues
>Oh and let's buff volks grenadiers to be equally as strong as rifles!
The fuck was Relic thinking?
>>339766173
OKW has hmg without commanders now?
>>339766173
>>339766274
Wasn't the Kubel their HMG?
>>339766274
They will in the upcoming patch.
Thankfully they lose the shrecks to balance it out.
>>339766371
Yeah, but last I played they removed it (unless it got to level 5 so never) but replaced it with the ability to cap
>>339743593
What game?
Commandos series are considered a rts?
>>339764456
>play loyalist
>get the two starbase tech
>place two starbases on every system, five on every star
>upgrade with trade ports, hangars, armor and docking boons
>enjoy unending credits and the toughest defenses possible on every fucking world with undedable starbases
>proceed to use vast riches to send unending armadas after xenos, slowly taking their worlds and replacing them with starbases
Nothing beats killing xeno with starbase creep
What are some RTSes that have an active competitive scene? Is it way too late for me to get to Korean level in Brood War if I begin now?
>>339766274
No.
But the doctrine isn't that weak and the HMG is great on certain maps.
I'm not butthurt that they made Volks so cost-efficient that they can fight on par with riflemen even if one of the models has a shreck.
OKW was supposed to be weak early game but scale hard into late game, but for the past year or so they've been average early game and extremely strong late game.
>>339766837
It's not too late, but you'll need to play a shitton if you wanna be Korean level. There are servers like Iccup and Fish where you can play against others.
Axis & Allies; some obscure game made by Atari for PC that was essentially a Starcraft clone but in 3D.
>>339766843
I mean that I'm more butthurt by the Volks changes.
Is R.U.S.E. any good?
>RTS games that only you played
>>339741305
AVP extinction
>>339742607
I paid real life MONEY to play RA3 and C&C4, still kind of believing that EA could do a good job despite some of their recent setbacks (at the time). I loved C&C and C&C2 and enjoyed C&C3, and RA up to 2 and even kind of liked Generals
In my head-canon the GDI has a good chunk of its forces stationed in the region with the last tower awaiting for the next, great alien invasion
>>339767707
METAL CAMEL SOLID
>>339757184
>let's add gimmicky units that can clear a whole army in .1s
Yeah thats mainly why I dropped it. WoL didn't have any of that shit.
>>339747171
Me. I freaking loved that game. We seriously need a sequel dealing with the rest of the european theater.
>>339765262
dat fucking music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY5Y0aqgDFs
>>339764750
kknd krossfire was quite interesting to play on playstation with that shoulder button selection etc
>>339763847
Naa, more like you hate fun.
I cant be the only one who played a shit ton of BZ1 and 2 back in the day!
Best rts ever
>>339747243
Epic rts. Wish it had kept 2's hero rpg system though.
>>339741305
easily my favorite RTS of all time
I have so many great memories of me and my friends just scraping by the bots
>>339747648
FUUUUUUUCK
First civ 6 and now this? Why is "mobile port" the new standard aesthetic? And they told me casuals wouldn't ruin gaming.
>>339768951
fookin weebs get out of here with your SRPGay!
>>339747648
the dreadnought looks good but the eldar look like fucking bionicles
>>339769427
>the eldar look like fucking bionicles
Shit, I knew they reminded me of something.
>>339747885
Looks like shit tbqh famalam
>>339762969
resource management and base building is strategy. games that /v/ likes get rid of those aspects and only have unit control. that makes them rtt.
>awful at RTS games
>really like watching huge amounts of units go at it
What's a guy like me supposed to do
>>339756624
>letting him build up that many T-34s without any AT mines or infantry support for your AT gun
>that awful micro
JUST
FUCK
MY
>>339770332
/v/ loves AoE 2, SupCom and other RTSs the only RTTs that gets any attention are MoW and Total war, CoH is more of an hybrid
>>339770350
That´s why i did back in the SC1 and AoE days. Hours in the editor setting up huge armies on both side to see the outcome.
>>339770562
age of empires is on the other end of the spectrum where everyone plays sim city and completely ignores any strategy that doesn't involve sitting in your base until imperial age.
What RTS games have active competitive scenes?
>>339766173
>usually only have 2 volk squad and 2 sturms
>give only 1 volk squad a shreck
>use raketenwerfer to land side shots, and pumas to cause my opponent to panic
>raktens and puma are 5 vet while shreck volks are only 3 vet
>pick up BARs and vickers with my other volks squad they end up being much more useful than the volks with the shreck
>>339766486
just to let you know anon i checked the balance preview update mod and they aren't getting rid of the shrecks for okw their just moving them tosturmpioneers
>>339756624
nigga should have had tellers
>>339770430
Woah, you say I suck anon?
1v1?
>>339770350
Play total war on a lower difficulty.
>>339743274
My fellow niggas. MoW is the dopest shit.
>>339766560
Literally wargame.
>>339772193
That's what I do. The problem there is that I have to control my units most of the time, I can't just tell them to charge and then win.
>>339771003
COH2.
SC2.
That's about it.
>>339764183
>he doesn't get a tank our a counter out first
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
Stop playing 4v4s.
Anyone interested in playing COH2 right now?
>>339743274
>have one guy who's more or less surrounded after the rest of his squad caught an HE round
>have guy grab the MG off a wrecked jeep, fire wildly towards the germans
>mow down incoming enemies until out of ammo, loot the shit out of nearby corpses, start tossing grenades like a madman
>nonstop explosions, dead germans everywhere
>enemy tank arrives
>not a single rocket launcher in sight
>fuck it, death and glory charge with AT grenades
>somehow works, guy doesn't even catch a single bullet
>tank explodes
>the turret flies off
>lands on the one-man-army, killing him instantly
>>339773021
Already in a game, anon, loading in now.
>2v2
>Brits vs OKW
>crossing in the woods
I'm about to get so mortar-pitted.
I can't wait for the Brit nerfs.
>>339772590
Pretty sure you can assign them to an AI commander in some of the games with a general attack or defend order.
>>339746141
>almost no simulated projectiles, almost everything's RNG or hitscan
>vehicles clip into each other and the ground
>on a 2D plane rather than space
>unit variety is horribly disappointing
I tried, but I just couldn't like Deserts of Kharak.
>>339773778
Yeah, but not in Total Warhammer for some reason
It makes me sad
Have an unrelated webm
>>339748247
You fucking heretic
>>339744224
>that music
>that atmosphere
fucking hell just look at the image. I wish more could have been done with the Tiberian universe. It would have been a perfect grimdark setting. Instead we got shitty C&C 3 and 4
here enjoy some spooky tunes on the house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZEeaVllesc&list=PLeleK6Ese4ezVCpkorUILtseiekySxypl&index=1
Is Dawn of War playable SP? I want to try it but have been putting it off for years because everyone always talks about the MP.
>>339748080
made a small touch
>>339775840
all dow games are one of the few rts with good sp.
>>339770350
Mount and Blade, friend
>Soviet in COH2
I can't beat my friend who spams that stupid german car in the beginning
>>339777530
>mfw it used to deal supression
Fuck it put into so many autistic fits of rage. I wish okw was never released.
>>339776349
Ah, but the problem there is the spectating.
I have to get stuck in, which is fun, but there's not much to see in there except for a sword in your face
>being the only person having played this
i still play it from time to time
>>339777530
AT nades as soon as possible anon, and always make sure you keep your conscript squads close enough to support each other.
>>339777913
I think I liked this one more than the sequel but I can't remember why. It used Kohan style buildings I think.
Fuck speaking of which Kohan was sick.
>>339744331
wow only comment of this in the thread and no replies. fucking sad. was an amazing game. the online was fucking great too. got to top 50 in the leaderboards. the graphics were fucking great for 2007 as well.
ubishit closed massgate so you can't even play it anymore or check your old stats. there probably won't be another one either. games was already dead for a few years...
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