>the specs for RX 480 are point-for-point a match for the GPU in Sony's upcoming PlayStation Neo, all but confirming that the Sony mid-gen console refresh uses both Polaris technology and the new 14nm FinFET chip manufacturing process.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-amd-rx-480-costs-199-gtx-970-r9-390-beating-performance
For those who don't know, RX480 is the equivalent of x1.5 Titan in performance.
It seems like the Neo is going to be PS2 3.00....
>>339715914
I mean we get the 480 as well so I am all for it.
>>339715250
>Still 50% behind Xbox Scorpio in GPU power
>Still using the same crappy jaguar cores
J U S T
>>339715250
Well I'm still glad I didn't buy a ps4. the new one will work properly allowing me to play the new FF without making my eyes bleed.
>>339715250
Meanwhile they only slightly overclocked that shitty mobile multicore CPU lol
Okay so the GPU's like 200 dollars. Could they conceivably put out a PS4 with this GPU at 400 dollars (or the price that the original PS4 was at in 2012)? Also why the FUCK is the PS3 still 200 bucks at retail?
>>339716389
>>339715979
CPU isn't as nearly as important as GPU for the type of games consoles get
>Using the old Titan as scale
It's in between a GTX 980 AND 980 TI
It's a fantastic value card, but don't use several generation old hardware as scale.
>>339716602
Yeah, I made pic related for $510 with one and Sony gets parts much cheaper than retail.
The leaked price was $399.99 for Neo and Sony will likely drop old PS4 to $249.99 or something.
>>339716667
Yet scorpio will have a 2TF advantage on GPU alone.
Ready your "Human eyes can see 1080P just as well as 1440P/2160P" damage control
>>339716789
now try adding a videocard
>>339716967
I don't buy consoles for graphics
>>339717098
Reading is hard
>>339717098
PC part picker doesn't have the 480 yet you dumb fucking nigger.
What I listed is $279 and with the 8GB 480 it comes to $510.
>>339716602
It's cheaper than $200 to Sony, and the rest didn't get much of an upgrade, so yeah, should be doable.
>>339716602
PS3 has the power of cell within it that no other device in the market uses except for the PS3. It would require hundreds of millions in R&D to shrink the cell die since nobody is doing it and so the prices are high because of it. The PS4 however is designed with parts that will drop in prices quickly and we'll see it hit below $199 soon enough.
So what does this mean? How much more powerful is it?
>>339717442
About 4.5 times more powerful than PS4's current APU.
>>339715979
>Neo is anounced
>"HAHA enjoy buying the console again sonyggers!"
>Scorpio is anounced
>"HAHA the console we have to buy again is better than yours"
Fucking Microshills.
>>339717442
It's like going from a shitty 2013 laptop to an actual up to date piece of hardware.
But the cpu will still be the systems bottleneck.
>>339715914
>we heart indie games
wasn't that originally associated with sony?
>>339717620
>We are not interested in making xbox 1.5
>1 month later scorpio rumors happen
Fucking hypocrites
>>339716602
Easy. Remember you are paying a profit margin to a company thats selling the GPU and they are paying a profit margin that covers shares and R&D to AMD. That probably means that Sony gets the 'cards' for $100 a shot and then gives a portion of sales to AMD or covers a % of the R&D cost to get cheap prices. Doubly so since the PS4 is literally just a AMD build system with Sony branding at this point.
This doesn't seem like a 1.5 at all anymore and it's making me more pissed.
>>339718058
>1.5
The "1.5" tag is a meme to make people feel less duped by underwhelming hardware so they can perpetuate their post-purchase justifcation onto the next generation of consoles
Enjoy your incremental upgrades every 3 years.
>>339715250
>he specs for RX 480 are point-for-point a match for the GPU in Sony's upcoming PlayStation Neo
bullshit a top end new card would ever make it to a console without the thing costing 800$
Good thing the 480 is not a top end card.
>>339718673
Sony is only doing this to keep up, because of the NX and microsoft new xbone model, i doubt this will repeat for a long time
>>339718753
>he doesnt know
the 480 will cost $200
>>339716667
Fallout 4's DLC runs at legit 15FPS on the PS4 dude.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-fallout-4-far-harbor-performs-poorly-on-ps4
CPU falls short. When you bring up MGS5's 60FPS, remember that is a cross generation game. Fallout 4 is straight up built for these consoles.
>>339718963
NX is all but confirmed to be a weak system, possibly portable. There is no need to keep up with that.
>>339718753
>RX480
>top end
Are you retarded?
>>339719058
>bethesda´s console ports
>indicative of a console´s capabilities
come on
Sounds like the 480 will be my first AMD card unless it turns out they're bullshitting hardcoreHow likely is it that they're bullshitting hardcore?
>>339719196
Not hardcore but there's likely some bullshit
>>339719085
Fuck off NeoGaf
NX is almost confirmed to use Polaris
>>339717620
not as many people bought xbox over ps4. let's say that as best current gen can do is match last gen ps4 already has half of it's consumers and is now giving them the shaft.
>>339719189
Bloodborne runs below 30FPS.
Dark Souls 3 runs below 3FPS.
Witcher 3 is a disaster on consoles.
Uncharted 4 is 30FPS in the single player.
DriveClub is 30FPS.
The CPU has been bottlenecking these consoles, it's not a fucking industry secret. Which is ironic, because the PS3's and 360's main strength with their CPUs.
>>339719058
Fallout 4 has a 20 year old engine duct taped with add ons.
Ita comoletely shit even on most PC builds.
>>339719196
Unlikely, it's more likely the card will turn out far more powerful than advertised like it has happened before with AMD cards with constant driver updates.
>>339715250
mfw I didn't buy a PS3.5.
mfw I didn't get Bloodborne Incomplete Edition.
mfw I didn't get a fucking Vita.
mfw the Neo is gonna flop and I'm gonna get it from the bargain bin.
mfw I'm winning at the waiting game.
>>339715250
yeah as if the RX 480 is compatible with the SoC of the current PS4, they would have to port the OS and every fucking game. It will only be an overclocked Jaguar SoC which allows to play 4k movies, nothing more, if even that.
>how can Sony afford 500 dollar GPUs in their 400 retail machine?
They have an exclusive deal with AMD and buy the GPUs in the tens of millions.
>>339719517
Will they finally use a better engine for the next TES?
It will play 4k movies and loading times will be slightly faster, thats all. People thinking it waill anythin major are retarded.
So when could we expect a price drop on the PS4? Been thinking on getting a BB machine for a while now
>>339719792
I see your dad works for PlayStation
>>339719792
Hey assblasted PS4 vanilla owner, Sony filed patents for 4K downsampling technology. That means they're planning on having all old and new PS4 games run at 4K upscaled resolution. The APU being upclocked means that games that have trouble with a stable framerate will be locked, that's basic computer knowledge. If your processor has trouble delivering V-sync 30FPS, you get higher clocks and it starts evening itself out.
Stay once again, assblasted. And rumors has it Sony is putting PS3 backwards compatibility in the PS4.5 too. You don't add brand new CPU/GPU to do 4K movie upsclaing.
Dumbass, you are genuinely fucking retarded and salty.
>>339720021
>>339720136
how delusional can you be?
>>339719962
E3. it will drop to $299 or $250 at least to accommodate the PS4 Neo.
>>339720216
Im not the one assuming things before it even comes out
>>339715250
Who remember when they say that ps4 going to be able to play videogames at 1080p and 60 fps.
>>339720654
There are plenty of those, but part of the developers choose more graphics
>>339719312
More like Tegra, its going to be the shield 2.0
>>339719772
Why would they?
People would buy the games anyway.
If they are still planning on paid mods they will NEVER change the engine.
>>339720886
>le Tegra meme
Yeah, keep sucking SemiAccurate cock and Rogers cunt anon
>>339715250
>The 480 is x1.5 Titan in performance
>>339716669
>Not even released
>Everyone under incredibly strict NDA
>Won't even let people see the setting DOOM was running at
>"No yeah guys it is more powerful than a 980"
Why do you idiots always fall for this shit? The 1080 was double a 980, well that didn't happen. Then the 1070 was better than a Titan X, well that didn't happen either. You people are actually fucking retarded for buying into any of this hype.
>>339715250
>Scorpio still BTFO this piece of hit
why i would care again?
>>339723025
/thread
And don't forget that PS4 Neo going to be the weakest system of this middle gen.
>>339723025
>i
Whats up with the massive influx of you idiots who don't know how to capitalize your I's. Suddenly over the past couple weeks you morons have been all over the place.
>>339723025
>>339723116
Scorpio won't stop the increasing ammount of UWP apps and the corresponding decrease in actual Xbone (scorpio or not) exclusives, brehs.
So is there any confirmation of the Scorpio specs outside of Kotaku's "sources"? Or are we just assuming that they're right?
>>339723345
sonygger caring about exclusives, and his machine is still one exclusive machine.
>>339724320
You play with your dank mémés while I play actual games. How about it? win-win
>>339717284
Why are you including the RAM? The 480 has the PS4's RAM with it.
>>339715250
>>339724729
Because if I didn't autismo PC MUSTARD redditors would freak.
>>339717859
>the PS4 is literally just a AMD build system with Sony branding at this point.
I don't really care enough about consoles to know, but is this true?
If so, it explains a lot.
>>339725996
no. Sony are still doing at least the software part.
>>339715250
isn't this what Sony tried to push 3 years ago with the PS4?
>new high speed architecture at 1.84tflops
which was effectively an AMD 7870
but none of the games performed like a 7870, all their games were 1080p or below with only a small handful of games actually being 60fps meanwhile the 7870 can play games on high, 1080p or better 60fps all the time
Definitely not gonna put money on this hype being any better than the PS4's initial turn out.
>>339717284
You realize the PS4's GPU memory and system memory are a shared pool right?
You aren't getting an AMD 480 8gb in your PS4 by a long shot, hell depending on system allocation you might not even get 4gb
Any R series x80 cards have performance comparable to nvidias x60 (or xx60 now). They are 200 to 260 dollar chipsets. No way it will be better than a Titan x in dx11. I'll most likely be getting 2 and put em in crossfire on my build. As for you console plebs, I wouldn't doubt optimizations in your games will achieve roughly 60fps with slightly better textures than you can currently have. Shouldn't expect much in entity count and flora density though.
>>339715250
>RX480 is the equivalent of x1.5 Titan in performance
Shut up, retard. It's like 390x performance, but who knows how well they can optimize for the spec. Uncharted 4 looks pretty amazing for the weak hardware it runs on.
>>339715979
XB2 is going to be better for VR / AR, but not by much. 25% increase in TFlops doesn't really mean much to the average user. You won't be able to tell the difference most of the time; it's a marketing ploy because M$ doesn't want the weaker console this time.
>>339716320
PS4/XB1 was always the placeholder gen
>>339716389
Console games aren't CPU bound retard
>>339716602
>Could they conceivably put out a PS4 with this GPU at 400 dollars
Yes, bulk discounts from AAYMD. Also consoles often sell at loss early and then make profits as hardware costs inevitably decrease
>Also why the FUCK is the PS3 still 200 bucks at retail
The RSX and Cell are fucking expensive because of the architecture and amount of silicon used IIRC
>>339716967
1440p TVs basically don't exist.
>>339717852
Yep, although technically he said that they're looking at "whole numbers." Which means that they don't want XB1's bad rep following the new console, while $ony is basically trying to pull a WiiU to build on the PS4's popularity
>>339718673
Consoles are becoming more like PCs
>>339719058
>Fallout 4's DLC runs at legit 15FPS on the PS4 dude. CPU falls short.
Fallout's engine sucks major dick, it's an outlier and therefore not representative of the general condition
>>339726637
>but none of the games performed like a 7870, all their games were 1080p or below with only a small handful of games actually being 60fps meanwhile the 7870 can play games on high, 1080p or better 60fps all the time
In-fucking-correct.
>>339722678
>Then the 1070 was better than a Titan X, well that didn't happen either.
It either is, or trades punches with it - depending on a game.
Not bad for 370$(once the FE bullshit passes)
>>339727382
>In-fucking-correct.
absolutely fucking correct. the 7870 could play BF4 on high settings, 1080p 60fps all the time, meanwhile PS4 doesn't even touch 1080p, barely holds 60fps at that sub par backwards resolution and the Xbox is even worse.
>console games aren't CPU bound
are you stupid? That jagaur core thing doesn't have enough bandwidth to push anything remotely demanding. Your entire post is just making excuses for the PS4's and Sony's short comings
>>339727382
>its like 390x performance
and they're still gonna be stuck making shit games that barely run 1080p 60fps
you still aren't going to see the days of 4k gaming that PC's already started digging at 2 years ago
>>339727382
>Console games aren't CPU bound retard
Some are, but it's usually the case of shitty developers that wanted to quickly put their software on consoles.
I love how the Neo and Scorpio haven't been announced and people are already arguing that Microsoft has won despite losing in the real world for approximately 3 years.
>but...but... next year!
>>339727763
This
it doesn't matter how powerful microsoft make a console, they don't have the library that PS4 has for games and even then PS4's is dwindle as fuck
>>339727528
>the 7870 could play BF4 on high settings
BF4 is crossplatform idiot, 360 had 512MB of ram in TOTAL. Of course the 7870 can play it on high.
If you weren't a complete retard you would check gamegpu benchmarks just to see how wrong you are. Witcher 3 for instance is unplayable on a 7870 at anything close to high settings. DOOM can't even get 60FPS on high at 1080p and that game is easy as fuck to run
>having to buy add-on for yorury console.
jfc, just get a PC already
>>339727621
>you still aren't going to see the days of 4k gaming
It's likely that the PS4K will actually be able to play games at 4K/24FPS. But the hardware is also for PSVR/Oculus on XB2, which of course needs high refresh rates.
Who /assblasted/ PS4 owner here? I feel retarded for buying it only 3 months after launch. I don't even want to sell it for $200 or whatever the fuck they're going for now.
>>339718673
More like every 2 years.
PC already won.
>>339729120
Eh, console was cheap. No reason not to have spent the money to have a console for three years
>>339729120
>future PS4 games will still work on your current one
>will most likely have an upgrade program
>if all else fails you can just sell your old PS4 to buy the new one
The only people who would be upset about this would be the poor.
>>339719792
I'm more excited for a reasonably priced 4k blu-ray player than the games
>>339725761
Yeah well RAM is totally irrelevant anyway so fuck them what do they know
>>339725996
AMD hardware with NVIDIAs corporate jew tactics of: BUY OUT EVERYTHING and LOCK DOWN EVERYTHING
>>339727382
>Console games aren't CPU bound retard
...
>>339727830
>even then PS4's is dwindle as fuck
b- bu- but BLOODBORE
>>339729904
Hes right you know, there are no strategy games with thousands of units on consoles
>>339715250
I can already hear Xfag's underdeveloped testicles sucking into their obese, hulking carcasses.
"BU BU BUT I BELIEVED IN PHIL! BASED PHIL! I LOVE YOU, PHIL! WHY DID YOU BETRAY ME!!!!!"
A whole week of screaming about Arthur Gies' shilling like chimps at the zoo in mating season and it was all for nothing. Delicious.
