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>higher tickrates
>community servers
>competetive mode
>nerf McCree
>buff D.va
I think these are the most important points. What do you think?
What's wrong with D.va? I play with her the most and she seems fine, she's not crazy good but not bad
Higher tick rate already solves a bunch of problems
>Bastion can now move in turret form, extra 100 armor
>McREEE doesn't have to reload and roll can be used again within 1 second indefinitely, after 1 second causes normal cooldown
>Lucio healing increased, alt fire range extended 10m
>Widow charge time removed, all shots considered charged, poison mine now does double damage and can place 6 at a time
This fixes the game
>>339708461
>Allow everyone to accept that the game has a low skill ceiling
>Change it from 6v6 to 12v12, make bigger maps to compensate
>>339708649
Retards are playing her like a frontliner and not an ambusher
>>339708461
>Who gives a shit
>its okay
>its already coming
>what is meta
>what is meta
>buff D.Va
Yeah, no. A good bit portion of people have already gotten to the point where they never leave their mechs unless they're ulting.
>>339708664
I'm so glad you're not in charge of balance you shitter, just being a sniper with a grapple already makes widow the most broken fucking character in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEN06UA9BrU
>>339708461
and they are doing all that in the next patch xD
make lucio's bullets increase in size as it travels
turning into a big black hole if it reaches half of the map's size
>>339708887
are you serious nigger, how fucking oblivious are you.
fucking lurk more summerfag
>>339708887
Is this bait? He wasn't being serious
>>339709015
>>339709068
He replied to himself, dumbasses
>>339708649
She's got terrible damage, you're a sitting duck outside the mech that you basically have to sacrifice every time you want to kill someone, and the ulti is extremely easy to avoid
>>339709212
also her headshot hitbox ist bigger than the fucking moon
>Fewer chokepoints in maps
>Remove all the tedious abilities which disrupt the flow of the game, like Mei's ice wall or orb of discord (it just makes you hide for ten seconds more often than it actually causes you to die)
>Remove all the abilities which require no skill on the user's part and have no counterplay on the enemy's part
>Remove infinite ammo and add ammo pickups, so that people can't just spam mindlessly all day
>Remove Widowmaker
>>339709376
>Remove Widowmaker
You spelled Mei wrong, my friend.
- scrap bland character designs and come up with good ones, and better humour
- scrap all maps except maybe route 66, make more intersting maps with more verticality
- scrap all ults and 'timers' for special abilities, and replace them with ammo consumption, nerf many of them
- replace hard counters with soft counters. rebalancae characters and physics to increase depth. e.g. make torbjorn's sentry use resources to build, replace pharah's specials with actual quake-style rocket jumping, etc
- give the user the ability to select which game mode they want to play. add symmetrical capture point mode.
- allow community servers, maps and mods, release mod tools
- remove crates and all cosmetics from the game
there, i de-casualized it
who unironically claims that mccree doesn't need a nerf is retarded. there's reason why pro teams have 2 mccrees almost all the time
>>339708735
Even if you ambush with her you can't kill anyone
>tick rate
Is this the new "2.5 sec GCD?"
>>339709656
nigga you just described pre-hatupdate tf2
>>339708735
>d.va
>is classified under tank role
>apparently people are retards for playing their role
"A tank is a character whose primary role is to absorb damage and prevent others from being attacked. Tanks are "meatshields", so to speak, putting themselves between the mobs and the more vulnerable party members."
the main problem with her is she is listed in the wrong role section. she should be under support
>>339709567
But mei is fun to play
>>339708664
This hothead is furious
>>339709732
Yeah, I'm definitely looking forwards to it
Remove Mei's wall ability, it's the easiest grief mechanic I've ever seen.
>>339709871
well if blizzard are trying to copy an existing formula they should at least do it well
>>339709732
>pro overwatch teams
You think before a big game they just stare into a mirror and wonder what they're doing with their lives?
better maps, and soon, and the fucking option to choose gamemode
this list isn't accurate but it's correct in saying that almost everything is shit
>>339709890
Nah, she should be on Offense. That's the only time she's useful. When she's actively seeking out stray targets and loners and finishing them off. As long as there's a group or someone that's concentrating fire on her rather than her teammates, she can't kill shit, loses her mech, and becomes a free kill
>allow modding
I want to play this game in 360° like this
https://youtu.be/f9v_XN7Wxh8
>>339710070
>putting shitty bo3 maps under "good tier"
>being this autistic
McCree and Mei need changes
>community servers
AHAHAHAA FAGGOT
Fucking PCucks and their shit "community" servers. Never once has that been good. I'm so glad matchmaking is standard for multiplayer now.
General modability. Custom sounds, huds, maybe even models. And change 20 tick, yeah.
And for fuck's sake
LET ME TURN OFF VIEWMODELS
>>339710259
Is this satire?
>>339709841
2.5 GCD just makes FFXIV slow, it doesn't make you die behind walls because the other player saw you plain in the open.
>>339710216
KOTH is literally the only gamemode that isn't chokepoint central and actually requires some sort of strategy
Give Pharah a side weapon and 25 or 50 extra health
>>339710098
lmao offense good joke anon. she has supportive abilities. offense would be a terrible fucking spot to put her under. mercy's gun does more damage than d.va's pellet gun, for instance
You think you want higher tickrate...
>>339710332
how i wish it were
>>339710259
>never once has this been good
>>339709841
FFXIV had a tick rate of 3, fucking 3. How much of a cuck do you have to be to defend that trash?
>>339710048
they make tons of money with no education or special skills while appearing to be having fun with it, so...no, not really.
>>339710526
>3
You're fucking with me
>>339710402
nah she just needs a way to be able to juke in mid-air
>>339710070
Swap Gibraltar/Volskaya and Route 66/King's Row and this is an acceptable tier list
>>339710383
>some sort of strategy
you mean lucio + mercy + offensive heroes?
>>339710627
King's Row and Gibraltar are completely awful though, King's Row especially so
Route 66 and Volskaya at least have ways to round around
>>339708461
McCree aint OP and D.VA aint underpowered.
>>339710593
There's a reason the AoEs are so finicky if you try to avoid them at the last second.
>>339708461
Higher tickrates are in the game. That "High Bandwidth" option I didn't know about myself until recently actually does to 60Hz.
HOWEVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0zbpPCdhGk
EVEN IF YOU DO GET A CUSTOM GAME GOING, 60Hz CAUSES CONSTANT SERVER RESTARTS
GG BLIZZ
>>339710593
They specifically had to hotfix a raid boss because the tick rate was so shit avoiding his instant death cast was impossible sometimes.
>>339710070
>Travelling to Hanamura
>Travelling to Temple of Anubis
>>339710259
what are you even implying? that community servers in any game are bad? css/csgo has surfing and bhopping, both of which have thousands of active players. tf2 has rocket jumping. are you autistic? can't believe I fell for this b8
>>339708664
the absolute madman
>>339710416
What fucking supportive abilities does she have?
Her only real strength is being a bullet sponge, and extreme mobility because of her quickly recharging jetcharge.
How the fuck is she a support, what the fuck kind of support can she give?
She's physically a tank, but she's only useful when she's utilizing her mobility to flank and take out unaware targets. Against anyone aware she's shit, and around her teammates she's absolute shit since then people aim for her rather than her teammates which means she's going to lose her mech and be fucking useless
>>339710741
>>339710772
Jesus Fuck, is the what was up with that? I thought I was just lagging hardcore for some reason when I tried it.
How the fuck do people find that acceptable?
D.Va's buff is inevitable. But the question is: how are they going to fix her?
I think the best solution is to remove the speed decrease when she's shooting
>>339710070
> Dorado, Hollywood, 66
> Bad
> Numbani, King's Row
> Shit
You're literally bad at the game.
The only full shit map is temple of anubis mostly because as attacker you have minimal chances of success due the fucking pillars protecting the defenders.
>>339710718
Nice joke anon
>>339710810
should really have those two in their own unplayable tier
>>339710921
Based off the post they made, probably lower the CD on her rockets, because they like her doing the same damage if you hold M1 or if you spam melee I guess.
>>339710931
They're bad not because they're bad all the way through, but almost all of them have really, really awful final points (except Numbani which has an okay last point but is otherwise fucking shit). King's Row is the biggest offender here, but Dorado is also really bad.
>>339710820
Been playing PC games longer than you faggots. Shit is low brow for fucking faggots like you. Only stupid faggot homos want servers.
>>339708461
Just make it into a porn game. Literally solves every problem it might have.
>>339711070
is it summer already?
>>339711034
Numbany has pretty much the same "Z" section at the end, just reversed.
>>339708461
1. Yes.
2. Maybe
3. Yes
4. No.
5. Yes
>>339711134
Are you a faggot already? Yes.
>>339710820
>Alright time to play some GAME!
>This server looks good, I wonder how my ping will b-
>WELCOME TO GAME (100% CRIT CHANCE)
>Oh, ew, that's retarded. Alright, what about this server?
>WELCOME TO GAME - MOVEMENT EXPLOIT IS NOW A MINIGAME!
>Jesus, that's retarded, too! Where are the people who just want to play GAME?
>WELCOME TO GAME (Trading Server)
You can have your community servers back when you prove that you aren't a bunch of faggots.
Still can't believe it has 20 tickrate
It should be 60min, what the fuck Blizzard
>>339711070
>MMR based only, nationality, personality and fucking language speaking irrelevant
>Not having a server where one chill guy can kick to make room for friends, kick AFKs, kick retards having a tantrum or people unable to speak English in a semi-competitive mood
k
>>339711223
>4. No.
Can't play anything else?
>>339711286
Why are you joining those servers in the first place when there's literally a tag system and a map search to prevent that? You're the victim of your own retardation.
>>339710259
Not sure if bait but ironically I agree with your point.
Community servers just add garbage modes that only bronies, for some wackass reason, like to hang out.
It also encourages idiots to try and be friendly outside of these servers "because I had fun doing nothing xD" and so they take their mindset somewhere else, ruining games as they go by.
So yeah, fuck community servers.
>>339710867
>What fucking supportive abilities does she have?
defense matrix, it's a support ability. ever heard of it? prob not cuz you've never played the game. you're probably basing all your information on livestreamers. can tell this is already bait
>She's physically a tank
she is the squishiest of all tanks, and this is coming from a mercy main. she's a big pink target on the field, and has no defensive abilities. she LOS's the healer most of the time, and her ULT isn't even crowd control, unlike rein's or zarya's
>being this autistic
>>339711370
>Implying people have ever used tagging of servers correctly
lover the price to twenty dollars on all platforms
it's now worth how much money you're paying for it
>>339711391
>>339710259
>they have never been a regular to good community servers with good players, a good map pool, and good settings
I just pity you people, I really do, but then you go on and spout garbage about not needing community servers and you just come across as fucking idiotic. Even if you're stupid enough to think that they're always bad, you can just... not join them.
>>339711414
She is a tank solely because of her second wind. She never really dies, and always comes back. Meanwhile you try to tank with winston and if you reach 0hp you die
>>339711414
>Mercy main
how big of a cuck can you get
>i hold left click on people
>sometimes i use right click
Have they given an actual valid and legitimate reason why the tickrate is so low?
>>339711467
>let's increase the rate of cheaters, squikers, blyads, hues and toxic scum
yeah no
>>339708684
12 winstons incoming
>>339711467
>Mooooooooooooooooooooooom Overwatch is 20 bucks
Yeah no, 60 is fine.
Game already has enough retards going alone thinking it's CoD.
>>339711423
Almost all tagging is automatic, so yes.
>>339711540
> hold
> not changing to toggle
>>339711565
>Russians are dominating the game in EU and bring the skill average way down
Brilliant plan faggot, it's like as if it isn't just a meal or something to pay for OW outside 1st world countries.
>>339711565
>lets make product's price match what you're getting.
how about yes
>>339711556
The reason is because it used to be an MMOFPS with the same server architecture as WoW (which also had 20 tick)
>>339710921
That or give her some kind of an alt-fire so she can at least compete at mid-range.
It's rather pathetic that her DPS sucks even at close range unless you aim at the head.
>>339711414
Defense matrix is absolutely shite. It lasts for only a few fucking seconds, and you can't fucking attack while using it. It's a less useful version of Reinhard's shield, except it's not even close to as good at protecting your teammates.
Is her shitty fucking defense matrix the only fucking reason you think she should be support? Because anon, even I didn't think you were going to be this retarded
>>339708461
>never lag in any online game
>OW averages at 140 ping
I just want this latency shit to end
>>339711528
it's called a custom game with friends you moron, maybe you should try getting some
>>339711540
>implying healers in any game require skill
take wow for instance. you click 1, 2, and 3
and also lucio is requires less skill than mercy is. he just walks around people
>>339708461
explain tickrate
>>339711528
I used to hang out in Skial in TF2, amazing players there and a few hackers. But they removed servers blaming it on Valve.
Oh hey, another reason why community servers are not needed! They can disappear any time they want.
I've been to community servers, they're nothing special pal.
One day you get epic matches and some other day you get paired with idiots.
Where does that happen too? Oh that's right! In Matchmaking!
>>339711414
>Matrix is a support ability, not a defensive ability
>being an Maintard in Overwatch
>being a fuck HEAD AN SHOLDAS "main"
Shut the fuck up.
No, really, shut the fuck up. By your logic Reinhart is a support, and every single person here, even you, can agree that that is retarded.
D.Va's problem is that she has the kit of a flanking brawler like Winston, but her critbox taking up 90% of her center mass makes her the worst character to flank and try to catch people with.
If they want her to be a flanking ambusher, they need to lower her MASSIVE FUCKING HEALTH BAR, remove the critbox entirely on Mech form, tighten up the damage spread, up the damage through the roof, and add a magazine to her M1. If they want her to be a massive fuckoff tank with initiation potential, they still need to remove the critbox, remove her snare on M1, and let her grab people like Reinhardt can with her rockets.
Either way, the problem with D.Va is not her numbers or cooldowns, it is that her kit is retarded, likely caused by her being such a late addition to the game.
>pick healer or sniper
>fucking terrible at it
>feel bad switching to a hero im good at because then someone else has to take my place
>>339711717
>Is her shitty fucking defense matrix the only fucking reason you think she should be support?
that, her armor, and her ULT. if she is to be an offense hero then buff her "pellet gun" by 5,000%, maybe then it will match that of every other offense hero's damage
>maybe
>>339711946
that makes no sense
>>339708461
>Let's make this game gud
make it third person
the only thing blizzard can do these days is make nice looking models, so they should show those off more.
>>339711528
>my best friends are from the internet :^]
Pathetic. KYS.
>>339708461
>Buff D.va
You've never played against a good D.va have you? I was in a game last night and there was an enemy D.va who was pushing our shit in so hard I had to check if they stealth buffed her.
>>339711987
She's a tank her, her only usefulness is as an offense hero.
She has absolutely no supporting abilities other than her ult. Her defense matrix is a defensive, bad, ability.
>>339711717
>>339711987
Her damage is fine, just needs either less spread or a slighly higher damage output. The real issue here is her snare when she starts firing. You can't possibly chase anyone besides maybe zenyatta.
>>339708649
She's not a tank
>>339711528
Brilliant idea, let's split the community!
>>339712037
A good D.Va is always countered by a good team without exception
>>339710619
maybe a right click that blasts a second jet in the way youre facing? not as strong but strong enough to propel through the air
>>339711835
I main because no one else wants to. if you main anything other than a healer you're fucking retarded, because you use different heroes on different maps, but healers are always needed
>>339712114
Yeah. The slowdown when shooting is really retarded for someone that does no damage outside of cqc range.
>>339711987
If her defense matrix makes her a support hero then soldier 76 is a support hero too because he can heal or zenyatta is an offense hero because he can debuff enemies and melt them faster than offense heroes
>>339711528
I used to have a Demoman pill timer but the "community servers" I hanged out with all went sv_pure on me because lol valve hates mods now.
I am so glad Blizzard understands the importance of the timer and they added one to Junkrat.
>>339712037
you must suck major dick. i never had a problem to counter her with any hero
Give Tracer some actual damage
>>339708461
I wanted to like this game, but I have huge problems with it. I dont know if its because I suck.
1. Most characters are slow as fuck, and have no quick way of getting across the map. You die pretty quickly around 1-2 minutes, so a quarter of your game time is just getting to the fight (if you dont have a teleport). Plus, when you need to get to the roof or something, you cant just walljump (on most chars), you have to slowly go by the stairs.
2. The game is set up so you can be killed without the ability to prevent it. Giving some kills to everyone, but making skill less important.
3. Maybe its just me, but the maps feel all the same to me, just different theme.
4. Few modes. Add more modes that are fun, like capture the flag.
I feel that 99% of developement went into the characters, and the rest of the game got sidetracked.
Is this just me?
>>339712218
>I main classes other people find boring
>look how special I am
>>339712309
A good tracer can destroy any tank in seconds
>>339709732
what's that reason? mccree looks fine to me. only thing he can do is flashbang-fan, nerf that and nothing remains and he will never be played again
>>339711528
>Go to a "serious" community server
>Mods have special privileges like auto aim
>Wreck their shit. Don't even say a word.
>You have been banned for racism
Oh yeah, those glorious community servers.
>>339712263
>then soldier 76 is a support hero too because he can heal
because he is? he is just marked down as offense because of his other abilities
also zenyatta lmao people actually play him?
>>339708461
>People say the tick rate isn't a problem
>I've noticed it in literally every single game I've played
It's like those people saying 24 FPS is the most the human eye can see.
This shitty tick rate is really fucking ruining the game. How did anyone at Blizzard think it was acceptable?
>>339712327
>4. Few modes. Add more modes that are fun, like capture the flag.
Enjoy every team stacking tracers with maybe one support (lucio) and a tank
>>339712309
What? Nigga I main Tracer. She wrecks shit I am scared she might get nerfed.
>>339712380
>I'm in denial because I couldn't find a rational response
>>339712454
>also zenyatta lmao people actually play him?
Corageous people
>>339710070
OBJECTIVE TRUTH.
>>339712396
the problem is that his e+right click combo can even fuck up tanks. it's too much. also his left click is basically a sniper without scope
>>339712512
>I am scared she might get nerfed.
pretty sure her blinks are getting nerfed
>>339712463
How does one notice tick rate?
I realize it's like FPS in that you don't really notice it until someone points it out, but what am I supposed to be looking for? Stuff like dying after I run behind a corner?
Not disagreeing that OW's is bad, I'm just having trouble noticing. Maybe because I haven't played an online shooter in so long.
>>339712454
Use his fucking discord orb damn it. Also stay behind your team. Zennyatta is NOT a fucking front liner.
Once you realize how wrong you were using him you'll see how much of a powerhouse he is.
>>339712613
>Anubis
>Good
Yeah only if you're in Defense.
>>339712463
>>339712647
You can easily notice a bad tick rate by runnign to cover. Even when behind a wall you're still getting hit for a few milliseconds
HIGHER
THICKRATES??????
>>339712613
Ilios can fucking suck it.
Worst map for all three points. 0/10. Lijang Tower on the other hand is excellent but unbalanced.
>>339708735
Or, you know, she's underpowered and not a very good ambusher. She's so slow while firing which makes getting away from her extremely easy while she's trying to kill you. Winston is way better at the job.
Her ultimate is also the easiest ultimate to avoid.
How to fix D.va:
Give her a secondary missile attack that is a miniature phara ult.
my only complaint is widowmaker. I think the game would be alot more fun if she was simply removed. the character is anti fun. I don't play overwtach because i'm looking for a hardcore competative game. I play it as a casual game. I like to mess around with the fun characters like Mei but as soon as a good widowmaker shows up she HAS to be dealt with. you CANNOT let a good widowmaker run uncontested. she ends all fun. no other character has this sway over a match
>>339712639
[citation needed]
>>339710070
I suck tons of dick on the daily and you still manage to be a bigger fag than I am.
>>339712647
The easiest way is to compare how you died to the kill cam. They're almost always different.
What will happen commonly is you get killed while being behind cover, but the kill cam will show you as not being behind cover. But there are times when you can activate a skill that should save your life (like Meis freeze, Genjis reflect or any shield) and still die when it shouldn't have been possible. And again, the kill cam shows you dying before the skill activated.
These are related to low tick rates.
The game is generally very balanced except for a few things that are mind boggling desu
>Mei should have 200hp not 250 considering her survivability
>Widowmaker should not be able to shoot until it's at 100%, it's ridiculous when she is a shitter and hits the legs instead of the head but it doesn't matter because she can instantly shoot again to finish them off anyway. Snipers should be punished for not making that one shot count
>McCree should not have all that DPS for so little effort, I understand that he's supposed to be like a Genji/Tracer counter but the way they designed him is lazy and works against the entire cast
>Zenyatta should have 200hp
>>339712542
No, I stand by what I said.
You're a attention whoring little twat that thinks you're special for putting up with a class that makes you feel more useful than usual.
Maining is for retards. I play at least 1 class from every role and pick and choose among them depending on my mood and what I think will benefit my team.
Maining classes is an egoistical way to unbalance teams and to only be good at one fucking thing in a game that has so many ways to play.
>>339712463
I'm hoping that the current tick is a temporary thing to save bandwidth while they handle the initial launch load, and that once numbers start to die down they'll improve it.
Of course this is Blizzard we're talking about so I don't know why the fuck I'm hoping for anything
>>339712501
Lol, didnt think about that. Maybe slow down the flag bearer?
>>339708461
>how do we make the game better
make it about being skilled with a class, rather than counter picking the other team.
>>339712896
>The easiest way is to compare how you died to the kill cam
Kill cams never use the same tickrate I believe Even the game had a 128 tickrate killcams would look off
>>339712501
This game does have an Engineer, however forgotten he may be. Maybe remove Tracer's blink if she's carrying the flag or something so she can't zip in and then out no problem.
>>339713069
The kill cam is what the server sees is happening and what is bases all of it's decisions on. The lower the tick rate is, the less of a difference there will be.
>>339712981
>>339713120
Hanzo and Genji climbing walls
Genji using his dash
Widowmaker using her thingy to climb shit too
>>339712937
>considering her survivability
what survivability?
She has absolutely no fucking mobility. If I see a frozen Mei, all I do is walk behind her frozen ass and shoot her in the back when she unfreezes
>>339708461
>tone down ults
>limit repicking
>>339713138
If she plays on a good team she will have someone to back her up immediately, and then wall out her enemies. I don't think she's completely broken like many other people do but I don't see any justification for her 50 extra hp
>>339712976
>implying I ever boasted about me being a healer
couldn't care less about that. and I've stopped counting how many times I've saved squishy <250 health heroes like yourself from certain death. if you think healers are useless then pls keep in the level 1-50 brackets and never come out of them.
also I've never seen people complain about others maining what they want until OW, considering most guilds on WoW have their own mains. lay off the bandwagon nigger
>>339712501
>Capture the flag on a class based game
That sure sounds fun:
> 3 torbjorns camping the flag
> 3 tracers trying to get the opposite flag
> People get bored so they just do a sniper match
Yeah, how aout no?
>>339713282
>Blizzard can't figure out how to do literally the barest bones of game modes
>>339712327
>Plus, when you need to get to the roof or something, you cant just walljump
ONE OF MY BIGGEST PET PEEVES.
>HEY LOOK WE'RE BLIZZARD LOOK AT ALL THESE CHARACTERS WITH SUPER GOOD VERTICALITY ISN'T THIS FUN
>BUT YOU CAN'T LAND ON ROOFS
>YOU'LL JUST SLIDE OFF AWKWARDLY
>>339713279
Those Disney/Pixar tier animations make wonders for the game.
>>339708664
>make bastion move in turret mode
No, you missed the whole fucking point of turret mode. Bastion needs a legit rework. Maybe something like restrict healing to recon mode, give him a 400 point shield in turret mode that only covers his front. And put a 15 second cooldown on transformation so you can't just keep swapping between modes and actually have to make a choice on whether to swap modes. Oh and maybe give him a right click in recon mode that shoots a grenade that does good knockback or something, put it on like a 4 second cd. Bastion players need incentives to get up out of turret mode and use recon mode and they need to be forced to choose when to use either mode.
>>339712647
snipers can headshot each other at the same time
>>339713363
This is so fucking stupid, I've died too many times as Genji because I see a slightly sloped roof and assume I can stand there, but then it's apparantly covered in invisible molasses and I get sniped down while gliding off.
Meanwhile there are plenty of other sloped surfaces high up people can stand on. I really don't get the design behind it. It seems completely random.
>>339713360
You know, capturing and pushing the cart is essentially the same shit.
Except the entire team is focused on bringing the flag home while the opposite team is trying to prevent it.
They already figured it out, retard.
>>339713420
>give him a 400 point shield in turret mode that only covers his front
He had a shield in turret form but blizzard nerfed him and removed it
>>339713279
>squishy <250 health heroes like yourself from certain death
Stop projecting. I can survive well without a crappy healer with Roadhog, Mei, or 76
If you actually wanted to be useful to anyone you'd main Lucio anyway
>>339713501
Pretty sure payloand and intelligence are two completely different modes in TF2 that work differently and require different team comps
>>339711414
So blocking damage is a support ability? Ok zarya, Reinhardt, winston, and mei are all supports now.
>not understanding that to win on anubis/hanamura you need a mobile offense to get through the gaps like Pharah/Genji
>>339712542
"I got called out on jerking myself off so now i'm gonna call the person irrational to show everyone how mature I am!"
>>339712937
Mei needs her health lowered simply because of her freeze.
I think Zenyatta should have 175hp and more shields, as is one of the highest DPS heroes in the game. 175 would make him not get killed by a full-charged widow bodyshot (which deals 150). His speed also needs to be increased.
D.VA needs a buff as she's literally shooting rubber pellets out of her MEKA. Lower damage falloff/the ability to regenerate health with defense matrix/ would make her a bit more viable imo.
>>339713420
>bastion needs a rework
git. gud.
INCREASE THE FUCKING TICKRATE BLIZZARD YOU GREEDY FUCKS. THE GAME COSTS 40 DOLLARS AND YOU HAVE MANCHILDREN SPENDING 3 TIMES AS MUCH ON LOOT BOXES
>>339712937
And Pharah should have 250hp
>>339713501
>Attack/Defend King of the Hill is the same as Capture the Flag
>Escorting is the same as Capture the Flag
Overwatch players everyone.
>>339713215
Genji can only use it every 8 seconds or so. So 3 chars out of 21?
>>339713282
Jesus christ, it wouldnt be that hard to figure out. Slow down the flag bearer ( or just let the tanks use it) . Or make 2 flags, one for each team.
Still, it was just an example. What Im saying is that Overwatch NEEDS fun modes. Its a game that is fun for 30 minutes, then you get bored.
>>339713494
the roofs that have too high of an advantage for turrets or too easy to troll wiith are made slippery, learn the fucking maps
>>339713590
>If you actually wanted to be useful to anyone you'd main Lucio anyway
I do, on KoTH maps
>>339708649
Literally everything
Tried to play her as frontliner but her shield sucks
Tried to play her as an ambusher works pretty gud but her damage sucks so bad
>>339713602
Yeah 2Fort is definitely not a sniper duel 24/7 with 4 engies at all times in the flag. Meanwhile a scout and a soldier are the only ones actually going for the objective.
So much fun.
Give Zenyatta a double jump.
Low health encourages him to stay off the front line which is fair on account of his huge damage potential, but he deserves a bit more mobility at least.
>>339713282
CTF worked just fine in TF2.
>>339713714
no she doesn't, she can fly away whenever she's in danger of death. Her shift+E used together will also take you further.
Tickrate is the only legitimate problem, everything else is balance shit or unnecessary
Please just give these fucking shitters that I get matched with a TDM or Arena mode. I'm tired of seeing Reaper, Tracer, Genji, and 76 on Defense because some kids want to raise their KDA.
>>339713725
In theory it is. You're trying to get their flag and then delivering it to the point.
It's one sided, sure, but it's pretty much the same shit.
Just wait for payload race or some shit.
>>339713908
>she can fly away whenever she's in danger of death.
Flying just puts her in bigger danger
I debated with my friends that Mcree would be fine if the fan was removed and replaced with a melee that did a set 80-100 damage on a cool down or something. It could be something to do with the robot hand or whatever.
The flashbang as it is works if he has to use primary fire, because then he has to get headshots and can't just delete you with the absurd damage of fan.
Or they could change the flashbang to a straight blind, so you can ability out if it.I don't think Mei is unbalanced, but I find the wait of a Mei lining up a headshot when you're frozen much more frustrating than being flashbanged
I would change Widow so the charge takes longer or that a fully charged body shot only does 125.
Also how much does an uncharged headshot do? My time as Sniper in TF2 doesn't transition well into Overwatch, and I was pretty good at popping people in TF2.
My other gripe is Zenyatta, I think if he had the orbs last until death or replacement like before he would be on par with Mercy and Lucio.
>>339713813
apparantly she used to have better damage but that was broken. I can see why. You already get free kills by flying into a pharah or widowmaker and shooting them while they desperately strafe.
She could need a buff but I'm not sure what, maybe just lower cooldown on her flying and shield, and faster walking while shooting. She's not too bad if you know where to find medpacks.
>>339713957
>Just wait for payload race or some shit.
the game will have to go down in price for me to buy this shit
>>339712613
What exactly makes Gibraltar good? That shit feels tedious for a payload.
>>339714046
>"contributing" to these threads anyways
kys
>>339714117
OP wanted to know how to make the game good.
putting it at a fair price is a good start.
>>339714082
I like it because it has varied stage design, but at the same time I dislike it because a good Widowmaker will dominate on it
>>339713731
> Modify the heroes to suit a game mode
Yeah, let's worry about balancing heroes just to have an extra game mode.
> Its a game that is fun for 30 minutes, then you get bored.
So basically you want an extra mode just to get 10 more minutes of enjoyment out of it?
I am someone that used to play dustbowl 24/7 nonstop and never got bored. Even today I can still jump on it.
Not sure what your problem is.
>>339709656
You are the least fun person on /v/. God dammit I hate you.
>>339713960
That depends on who is playing against her. If there's a widow shooting you 250hp isn't gonna help you (same with roadhog hooking you). Pharah is only viable in certain compositions - very effective but easy to counter. I don't think Blizzard should try to make her more viable in other situations.
>>339714172
so price affects the quality of a game now, does it?
>>339713780
Tank with a thick meaty cock here, heal me babe?
>>339714172
40 bucks is fine without necessary paid DLC and I'm a major poorfag here
>>339713908
Not when Sniper Duel 2Fort exists.
>>339714267
You know where a good widowmaker dominates? Dorado. Extremely difficult to attack if the defending team has a good widowmaker
>>339713908
It worked fine in a pub enviroment, not so much in a competetive one.
>>339714046
Why are you even here bitching about something you haven't played then?
>>339712309
Tracer can kill any 250>= hp character in one mag. Learn to flank closer and aim for the head.
>>339710070
>Kings Row shit tier
Ahahaha ok, just the best map in the pool.
>>339714336
>>339714290
>so price affects the quality of a game now, does it?
it affects if the game is worth the money, and Overwatch isn't, especially with microtransactions.
>>339714446
>if you didn't suck blizzards dick you never played the game.
>>339714172
>didn't go on /v/ before buying game
>didn't go on any video game news outlets
>BUY NOW $60.00
I'm still mad. Fucking Blizzard.
>>339712512
>maining tracer
F A G G O T
>>339714495
>microtransactions boogeyman
you didn't even try it during open beta did you?
>>339714495
>>if you didn't suck blizzards dick you never played the game.
The fuck are you talking about? I didn't even mentioned Blizzard.
It's simple logic retard. You get no say in games you haven't played.
ANY fucking game, not sure how you're trying to assume shit here.
>>339714508
It's only 60 bucks if you're that faggot who plays FPS on console
>>339714372
The worst is the part with the market/fountain. Only reliable flanking entrance is the wall by the large medpack, but chances are they have a thorbjorn with an upgraded turret on the other side so even Genji can't get to the widowmaker easily
>>339714582
>infinite levels
>except after a few days of play if you want anything you have to give us shekles
add into how Blizzard handles literally every other game now, why would anyone want to give them any kind of money?
>>339714343
Isn't sniper duel 2fort an issue only on valve servers with inexperienced players though?
I don't think I'd like a CTF in overwatch anyway, I'd rather have the devs focus on more maps or multiple-point KOTH
>>339714434
Fair enough, I never played much CTF anyway.
>>339714495
>"putting it at a fair price is a good start [to make the game good]"
>"it affects if the game is worth the money, and Overwatch isn't"
quality =/= value
try again.
>>339714557
What's the matter? Can't handle the blink?
>>339710259
Matchmaking is the bane of video-game communities.
It's communist console tier trash that does nothing for the longevity of a game. Absolutely fucking nothing. Paired with shitty Elo systems that only make from stomps left and right.
>>339714656
>thinking the game is worth 60 dollars
holy shit, you WoW players are retarded
>>339709376
Sounds like the game is just too casual.for you. Although I agree with the chokepoints. But all your other suggestions break the game, it's supposed to be pretty casual. Infinite ammo is fun and is needed for soaking and such, having to look for ammo would break the flow of the game. A main component to the game is time, and mei is good at wasting your time and apparently so is zenyatta if you decide to hide with discord (although he can see you nigga you ain't slick, he knows where you are)
Your complaints are valid though, if these things annoy you then that's cool. I'm just saying the game probably won't change in those ways because it was designed a certain way and those changes would break the game.no comment on the abilities requiring no skill, if I try and argue that most if not all abilities require some form of skill it'd probably void everything I said and all my replies would just be the "git gud" arguement
>>339714475
>any 250>= hp character in one mag
Sorry, that should be anyone under 300 hp. If you get the flank on a deployed Bastion you can easily kill him in one mag by shooting his glowing blue critbox.
remove Tracer.
she's fucking useless and only waifufags use her because they feel like they're somehow helping their team by staying alive for longer despite not actually contributing at all.
Don't nerf her, don't buff her, just fucking delete her and retcon her from the lore.
>>339714715
As someone who avoids valve servers at all costs I can tell you it's not an isolated issue.
Honestly tick rate is the only thing i'd like to see improved. I can't tell you how many times I've missed a kill or I was killed when I thought I was safe
Has Blizzard commented on people's complaints about it?
>>339714679
what the fuck are you talking about did you play this game at all or not you colossal faggot
you level up so fast that if you're not getting 2 cosmetic boxes a sitting you're a loser anyways
good job derailing this thread
>>339708461
just make the game less of a casualized piece of shit.
people play Overwatch when games like TF2 are too complicated for them, and that's just fucking depressing.
>>339714557
>guy wants to go fast
>plays character that goes fast
>STOP GOING FAST YOU FAGGOT
>>339714730
Did you know that before matchmaking got added to videogames, the community would have scrims with other teams/players to play with competent people?
Sounds extremely similar to something else, doesn't it?
>>339713696
He does need a rework though. Notice how I said rework and not buff or nerf. They need to make him viable and fun. Right now he only works on shitters but either way he's no fun to play as or against or with. Every time I've encountered one now (I'm level 40) they die quickly and are lucky if they get 2 or 3 people and they usually switch on first death. He's useless against a competent team and a fucking annoyance for shit teams.
>>339714679
At this point I can tell you're insanely retarded loner faggot seeking for attention with shitty bait.
>>339714960
i don't find tf2 fun anymore outside of playing with demoman in dust bowl
>listen to everyone on /v/ saying this is a reskinned shitty tf2 clone
>friend lets me play the game at his house
>fall in love with the pharoah character because it reminds me of quake
>plan on getting it today
Why do overwatch shitters on here claim everyone is shilling when they're doing the exact same.
>>339714270
How would only letting tanks seize the flag unbalance the game?
>Not sure what your problem is.
That the game is just slow and boring. I dont know if adding another mode would help with it, but it wouldnt hurt.
Im getting really tired of walking 20 seconds to the fight each time I die. The mobility is just shit in this game.
Maybe its just me and the game is amazing.
>>339712639
They should. I'm tired of shitty tracers who just spam it all day so you cant hit them
if you use it too fast there should be a longer cooldown
>>339714781
the game isn't worth 60 bucks but it's worth 40 like I said >>339714336
not sure how you read me calling them console faggots for paying 60 bucks and took that how you did
>>339714872
That entire post.
>she's fucking useless
Basically translates to
>I used her once and I sucked massive dick with her but other players seem to fuck my ass every time they use Tracer.
Her primary role is to be a distraction to the team, going behind enemy lines and create an opening for the team.
>>339712139
>let's split the community!
That's just brilliant. There is no community in matchmaking whatsoever, there is absolutely none. It's a sterile communist console garbage.
And then you "split" the non existing community anyway by implementing "ranked" mode. Which is basically the same shit but with try hards that are going to be as toxic as LoL players.
>>339712139
What community? There is no "community" in random people
>>339715180
>one button gameplay
>no ability to customize games in any way
>a grand total of three game modes
>worth 40
>>339714725
bitch pls
she's easy to destroy, it just takes a few extra seconds.
just fun when tracer fags get mad at me for stunning the cunt.
>>339713516
I know, they should bring that back in place of him healing in turret form. It's a more interesting ability where he has to actively try and look at people to avoid damage instead of killing a bunch of people and then just healing up after and doing it again. Then if his heal was in recon only he could get up and go do it, but then be forced to stay recon for 15 seconds and then ofcourse if they buff recon that may not be such a bad thing. The problem with Bastion right now is that there's almost no point in going recon mode once you find your camping spot. He should still be a camper kind of hero, but right now it's like braindead. He just needs something more to him to make it more active camping like junk rat or torbjorn who pick a general area to patrol rather than just sit there in one spot the whole game. It's boring.
>>339715285
>unironically posting reddit meme comics
>>339715356
Congratulations on beating noob Tracers I guess.
Just out of curiosity, who do you counter her with?
>>339714872
I love how every other Tracer I meet in the game is complete garbage. Also you must be garbage too because you think she is useless. a good Tracer can single handedly fuck the other team. Also the only real counter to Bastion Reini, mercy combo. Blink in, sticky, press E.
What's a 'tickrate'?
>>339715356
>>339715475
Sorta related, but do you get extra points for killing tracers? I've seen so many POTGs where literally nothing happens for 5 seconds until they run into a tracer and kill her.
>>339715347
>>no ability to customize games in any way
Did you try custom game?
>>339715475
>implying you have to have any skill whatsoever to murder people with tracer
anyway there's usually someone else on my team who continually shuts her down, but if i have to i just faceroll her with mcree or reinhardt.
>>339715285
League isn't a paid game, and ARTS games are by nature more toxic as they focus on denying your opponent an advantage.
I do agree that official matchmaking would split the community, but Blizzard will probably never implement public servers, and an MMR system allows you to actually get matched with people your skill and have fun.
How is matchmaking "communist console garbage"?
If you're worried about toxicity then you need to toughen up I think. But then if you actually are a LoL player, I'm not even surprised.
>>339711823
Skial is fucking awful, it's a company making its money through ads and garbage paid content on their servers. That's the bad end of the community servers, but the good end is good servers with no crits/no spread, a regular community, usually paid for with donations and no benefits.
What the FUCK, is tickrate?
>>339715475
Any competent player can counter her with junkrat's M1 without shift or E. If you can't you're casual shit
>>339712289
I don't think that's on the community server end, yeah - Valve took out sv_pure 0 servers from their Quickplay, which fucking sucks.
>>339715130
>How would only letting tanks seize the flag unbalance the game?
The director has stated multiple times that the game is based around heroes and hero switching. Limiting the roster would go against that.
If 12 maps and 3 game modes didn't do shit for you then a couple more won't certainly do anything.
You should have played Arcade last week. Everyone had 75% ability cool down which meant pretty much infinite blinks for Tracer and jumping like an idiot with Winston.
Shit was fun.
>>339715590
>>339715712
we're not gonna spoonfeed you. google it yourself.
>>339715347
>still fun
>worth 40
Plus when's the last time Blizzard released a game without updating/balancing constantly with high production values and full patch documentation?
>>339715712
It's the new meme, overused by kiddies.
1 year ago nobody was talking about tickrate
>>339714878
_Tickrate is only one offender when it comes to that. Their lag compensation is the culprit of that.
It favors the shooter which means a high ping player doesn't miss you because you are not behind the pillar on his screen because he's late to the party. If you want to be safe always make sure you do everything with a 1.5 second buffer because that's about as much as the compensation rolls back. See a Roadhog, don't juke, don't shoot just go behind cover immediatly and wait 1.5 seconds.
>>339714009
They want her to be less of an assassin and more of a tank. So whatever change they're bringing to her will probably be boring.
i'm stuck in too high of a skill bracket
send help
>>339715668
Good tracers are harder to kill than bad ones. Bad tracers will blow their fucking load and just spam all 3 charges of blink Hella quick and then just blink on every cooldown in predictable.patterns. good tracers actually make use of the charges and combine it with recall to effectively confuse you. Although Reinhardt and McCree both take steamy dumps all over her.
>>339715842
you've never played CS/Battlefield, have you?
>>339715784
What's this weeks brawl?
>>339715615
Judging by his post, I can tell you he hasn't played the game and cannot afford it. He is mad about it so he's shitposting basing his statements around other shit posts.
>>339715818
that was old Blizzard.
new blizzard will charge you forty dollars for everything.
>>339715930
Genji and Hanzo only, lower ability cool downs, Final Destination
>>339715590
to put it simply, it's the time between when you press a button and the time your opponent sees your character actually perform that input
>>339715995
new blizzard still supports Diablo 2/Warcraft 3.
But new blizzard is still shit. they won't listen to any community feedback most of the time.
>>339715930
>>339715784
Do arcades losses and wins count into profile's ratio?
>>339708461
I'm quite sure the point of this thread was to make people talk about these things but
1. rumoured to be coming with the comp matchmaking
2. no idea, but blizzard said they were open to community things (servers, skins, etc) but it would be a while after launch before they started considering them
3. happening this month, probably later in it.
4. happening
5. happening
>>339712309
The trick is to stick your guns up their nose. I'm not even kidding that's how you do damage with her.
>>339715668
>>339715724
>Going against lone Tracers
lmao
Try going for the good ones, the ones that distract you while the entire enemy is behind their back.
I'm a cheap Fuck bastard living in a 3rd world country
Where do I download it for PC? At least until i can bought it and play online like a decent fag
>>339716092
>Diablo 2/Warcraft 3.
no.....
and this hasn't been the case for a near decade
here is how you fix your shitty tf2 clone
better le tickrate
remove mccree
remove widowmaker
remove torbjorn
buff reinhardt's damage and nerf his shield
buff d.va in general
buff pharah
make mei not a complete fucking waste of a team for her team and enemy
make bastion useful outside of turret form - he should be a versatile class, not some fucking nerd in a corner in turret form all day
every week balance shit so the meta will never exist
give everyone a 75% extra hp boost
make respawn times longer as the match persists
give the option to sell skins that you dont need for coins
there i fixed everything wrong with the game
>>339715925
Thanks for proving my point
>>339715693
> Don't go to pubs!
> OK
> No no but don't go to those in particular, they're bad ones
Make up your damn mind.
>>339716179
Thank god you are not in charge
>>339714009
Maybe if they gave her slight healing when she absorbed bullets with defense matrix? Atleast then she could have some self sustain.
>>339715995
>that was old Blizzard, I'm not going to comprehend the question
good reply
>>339715842
1 year ago we didn't have a very popular shooter with horrendous tickrate
>>339712639
Never going to happen. IF you do that you need to up her health.
>>339716179
And add dailies, seriously why the fuck are there no dailies. Also, bitch nigga fuck you, torbjorn gets to stay. I'll fucking fight you
>>339708461
>Higher tickrates
Not while it's popular on the PS4
>>Community Servers
When was the last time Bizzard, or any other studio, did this?
>Competitive Play
Already on the way.
>Nerf McCree
Yes. Less damage or less health, either would be fine.
>Buff D.va
Yes. Less of a movement/aiming penalty when moving.
>>339715809
>Let's talk about buzzwords that we can't even explain
Brilliant.
>>339716254
okay have fun with your epic meta of widowmakers, torbjorns and a bastion with a damage boosted mercy and a reinhardt shielding them off while mccree oneshots all your tanks
seems fun
Make this game giftable already
>>339716431
>who is Junkrat
>>339708735
>Retards are playing her like a frontliner and not an ambusher
The real retards are Blizzard here and their inability to design a game properly.
For example Dva is not a tank, nor is Roadhog one. Then if we look at Symmetra she's not a support, but a defense hero. McCree isn't really an attacker either and the list goes on.
Then we have problems with the hero design, map design, etc.
It's honestly quite impressive how incompetent such a big and well known company as Blizzard truly are. Then again they're living off the reputation of the old guard to this day.
>>339715842
There was a shitstorm regarding battlefield's 4 tickrate. People found out that it had a 10 tickrate and because it was so low, sometimes, at specific distances, a single rifle shot would either hit twice or do 0 damage. EA then increased the tickrate to 30
>>339716095
Nah. You still get XP though.
This wont fix anything real but I'd sure like an option to save highlights and POTGs instead of them disappearing when I close the game
>>339716532
>what is auto seeking torbjorn turret with 40 meter range
>>339708649
She's labeled as a tank and people try to play her as one even though she really isnt
>>339710070
King of the Hill is literally the worst shit in this whole game. Everything else is fine except Hanamura, and to a lesser degree Temple of Anubis.
>>339716106
>"blizzard said they were open to community things (servers, skins, etc) but it would be a while after launch before they started considering them"
that's their spineless way of saying "It's not gonna happen", I'm afraid.
>>339716175
both games have received an update in the last three months.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/now-warcraft-3-is-getting-a-new-update-patch-notes/1100-6435608/
http://www.polygon.com/2016/3/11/11203878/diablo-ii-patch-blizzard-entertainment
>>339716180
if you don't think battlefield was better with the higher tickrate you are retarded. in CS it's not much of a difference though. Both things have been talked about for over a year now.
Obviously fixing the hitreg and lag compensation would be much better for overwatch, but when has a developer ever changed the way hitreg works in their game after release? What they can do is increase the client update rate which according to Blizzard would "shave off an extra 30ms"
>>339716427
>coming to 4chan and expecting people to take their time to explain basic concepts (that can be explained with one google search) when discussing them.
please, leave this site and return to reddit/wherever you came from.
>>339715910
>Although Reinhardt and McCree both take steamy dumps all over her.
A good tracer can work like an annoying fly around reinhardt. Her gun can reduce his health very quickly and annoy him to the point of turning his back to the rest of your team
>>339715930
Random Hero.
Every time you die the game picks the next one for you.
And you can't change.
Shit's also fun.
>>339716719
She can also dump on bad-average McRees. Though a good Tracer v. good McRee is probably a 35/65 matchup, it all hinges on juking that flash.
>>339716136
>good tracers
a myth.
>>339716719
Yeah but his 180 degrees swings can kill her in two hits. But in certain situations that could get him killed since he drops his held and then tracers team can take advantage of that.
>>339716734
Oh, that one was in the beta. Best part was that people usually died before they got to ult, so no Q spam at clutch moments.
>>339716691
I would expect people to not shitpost yet here we are?
You're also expecting others to know what you're talking about.
I know what tick rate is, but throwing the word at random without giving explanation on why it's bad so others can agree or disagree with you is plain retardation.
>>339716538
Genuinely curious, what do you think McCree is if not an attacker?
>>339716904
its three considering if she goes back in time, and 4 if she has a buff of armour or something
THATS TOO MUCH FOR A ROCKET POWERED HAMMER
>>339716380
>seriously why the fuck are there no dailies
Imagine a daily which needs the player to stick a bomb in someone. Now the entire server is stacking tracer and trying to stick bombs
>>339716648
you realize Junkrat's M1 fires in an arc and bounces off walls and doesn't explode until the third bounce? There isn't a location a single torb can set up that a junkrat can't shoot to from safety
>>339716904
>getting close enough to Rein so he can melee you
Just go on his flank and shoot him in the back to force him to either turn away from your team or eat your load. If you really want to get rid of him you can blink through him, turn 180 and sticky his back and E back to your team, this has the added bonus of usually hitting any of his teammates that are sticking to him like glue (supports).
>>339716179
I'm actually fine with most of that.
But Remove Symmetra and give her telly to toblerone, so you got one useful hero and not 2 shitty ones.
Also Remove Hanzo. Remove him from the face of the earth.
>>339717004
yes that is what the reinhardt shield is for
i dont think you realise this meta counters anything in the game
your mad max reject cant beat it
>>339717152
>People constantly bitchin about Bastion and McCree
>Nobody says shit about Hanzo
That nigga is absolute bullshit. I hated the Huntsman but this fucker takes it to a whole new level.
>>339716932
You're acting like people on an imageboard about fucking videogames wouldn't know what tickrate is. I'm not gonna patronise everybody in this thread and link an in-depth explanation on what I'm talking about, because 99% of people here already know, and the rest has nothing stopping them from searching it themselves and forming an opinion. It doesn't work like this here my friend.
>>339717248
>he one-shots squishies with bodyshots
wew blizzard
good
jab
>>339716179
>tickrate
rumored to be better in comp games, but yeah needs to happen all over
>mccree
they're nerfing him, mostly his flash. probably not enough
>remove widowmaker
agree
>torbjorn
nerf armor on molten core, weak as fuck otherwise
>buff reinhardt's damage and nerf his shield
terrible idea. he hits like a champ. buff hammer down to pierce shields or affect small AoE around him as well as the current forward cone.
>buff d.va in general
happening, but she's not all that weak. git better.
>buff pharah
fuck off, unless you're actually trash she 2hits anything but tanks. 120 splash damage does not need a buff. give her more fuel, knock 20 damage off her missiles. still 2 hits for 150-200hp chars, 3 for 250.
>make mei not a complete fucking waste of a team for her team and enemy
>waste of a team for her team and enemy
maybe proofread next time?
mei is a baller defender. lower cd on heal freeze by like 2 seconds at most, she's perfect otherwise
>make bastion useful outside of turret form - he should be a versatile class, not some fucking nerd in a corner in turret form all day
agree but if his standard form gets a buff he'll be literal bullshit tier. nerf sentry mode before buffing normal mode. maybe a few more seconds on ultimate duration, if they have a reinhardt you do literally nothing
>every week balance shit so the meta will never exist
aside from ranging from ill-advised and stupid to impossible, this would just create a pissed off fanbase. every other week one of your mains gets their damage toned up and down and you have to check the site every time before you play to see if you can 3 shot an enemy today or if you need to stick around for that 4th. retarded idea, there's a reason no game does this
>give everyone a 75% extra hp boost
fuck off this would just end in lucio + mercy + 4 tanks sitting on a point being unkillable
>make respawn times longer as the match persists
idiotic
>give the option to sell skins that you dont need for coins
not a bad idea
>>339717153
>reinhardt's shield is the end-all-be-all, firing in the exact same spot some more wont simply destroy it
plus it's not a 1v6 what is my whole team doing while I open up the nest by myself?
>>339717086
Also, if you didn't know it yet you can iframe certain things with Tracer's E, like another Tracer's pulse bomb.
>enemy Tracer blinks up to me
>HERE YA GO!
>STUCK!
>wait .5s, hit E
>bomb goes off as I rewind past a friendly s76
>looks like you need a time out!
>immediate salt
>>339717001
Not everyone would have the same dailies. It'd be the same daily system as hearthstone and heroes of the storm.
Best hero for solo queue just passing by!
>>339716691
>"It's not gonna happen", I'm afraid.
maybe, but if the community keeps pushing it they may reconsider as time goes on. they do seem to be in tune with the players, at least thus far. i'm cautiously hopeful.
>>339717439
yeah thats kind of the thing, you need a whole team assault to get rid of 3 or so people
and then they just do it again somewhere else
real fun
>>339717475
Free ults for everyone! Roadhog is not a tank I wish there were no fucking categories.
>>339716972
>Genuinely curious, what do you think McCree is if not an attacker?
Tell me, what defines an "offense" hero? What are they supposed to do in this game?
Genji, Reaper, Pharah and Tracer can all flank effectively and have good mobility but they're mostly effective at short range.
Now look at Soldier 76 and McCree.
Soldier isn't really anything and personally I think someone so well-rounded (especially being able to heal) is dumb. He is also effective at all ranges. Yes he's supposed to be the CoD kiddy character but his design is still dumb.
McCree is also another example of poorly thought out game design. He has low mobility, can't flank effectively and is also good at all ranges with his high damage hitscan weapon (in fact he's one of the best long range heroes in the game).
Now I could accept a tweaked Soldier 76 as the lone exception since he's supposed to be the beginner hero for retards, but two of them?
And this is just scratching the surface of the poor game design in this game.
>>339716972
he's at his strongest on defense. is what he means. he's an anti-flanker
>>339716932
>but throwing the word at random without giving explanation on why it's bad so others can agree or disagree with you is plain retardation.
If only people browsing this thread right now were using the internet
>>339717567
the entire point of the game is to counterpick, two junkrats will ruin whatever nest any number of torbs and reinhardts think to set up if it reaches that point and your team deserves the loss if nobody swaps to fix the problem
>>339717262
>If you play video games you must know what tick rate is
If you play Counter Strike you certainly know because it's talked about a lot.
>99% of people here already know
And you're basing this off of what, exactly?
Please show me a poll or something where I can see factual numbers and not data pulled straight from your anus.
>>339717482
>Blizzard is happy to announce that they are adding in server options for overwatch
>In order to play on public servers all you need to do is purchase the Account Transfer Service from the Blizzard Website for $60.00.
>If you want to come back to the official servers you'll have to purchase the transfer service a second time
Would anyone be at all surprised?
>>339717475
>Best hero for solo queue just passing by!
That's Soldier, for obvious reasons. He's good at pretty much everything.
>people already complaining about character changes three weeks after launch
>>339717398
yeah i forgot to proof read it because i could not care about proofreading on fucking v
also
>reinhardt hits like a champ
>75 damage
what
and mei is not a "baller" defender, she ice walls her own team mates off, is stupid and 80% of characters in a closed room, and the people who play her are the kind of people who panic ulti against 1 or 2 people
and yes pharah needs a buff as compared to the soldier who she has clearly copied she pales in comparison
and the 75% extra hp boost, would be nice as it would make the game not feel like fucking call of duty for zenyatta and other characters at 150 hp that arent tracer, and die in like two shots
i will admit tho i didnt think of lucio when i wrote this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTH2ZPgYujQ
Blizzard did a decent job attempting to explain netcode here, if you're seriously a plebian who needs these things explained you now have no excuse
>>339717398
>mei is a baller defender
Mei is borderline useless on defense, she's much better at offense.
>>339717649
>Relying on the internet for everything
I am pretty sure having a conversation with you in real life must be intriguing.
>Hey Anon what parts are required to build a PC
>Google it and research it
In the rare case you ever become dad I'd feel bad for your kids being raised by google.
>>339717897
> they need 17 minutes to come up with excuses for a tickrate of 20
>>339717897
>Blizzard did a decent job attempting to explain netcode here
More like they tried to trick idiots by using some fancy words and it seems like it worked.
What's a good healslut battletag that won't be hated by Blizzard?
>>339718062
>I am pretty sure having a conversation with you in real life must be intriguing.
Real life rules don't matter here plus we're all anonymous and people aren't using the internet when having a conversation face to face
fix aiming
>>339717482
Nah. Blizzard is super paranoid about having control of their IP (years after release StarCraft 2 doesn't have a LAN mode because the original starcraft's LAN mode allowed other companies to stream and organise tournaments without Blizzard's consent in Korea).
They've never done community servers in the past, ever. I don't see why we shouldn't keep pestering them about it, but I also wouldn't get my hopes up.
>>339717568
not if you hook + left-click + melee them! Roadhog is a pubstomper because people will usually save their ults for the "right" occasion anyway.
>>339717664
what is hyperbole? you're talking like you have a piece of wood up your ass, is it because you're mad people aren't bothered to explain things to you like you're a child?
Let me reiterate it for you:
People on /v/ play videogames, many play FPS games.
Most FPS games players are aware of the concept (not just CS but also Battlefield have it discussed often).
Most people here who play overwatch have already played an FPS before so they are most likely familiar with the concept.
Therefore, people who do not understand it are in a minority and even if we explained it it would be the best for them if they googled it and watched a video/read an article for a better explanation.
It's not difficult to comprehend, honestly.
>>339718168
>What's a good healslut battletag that won't be hated by Blizzard?
Blacked
segregate game modes.
Tired of playing KOTH because my team doesn't stay on point and play deathmatch instead.
>>339718165
using three pharahs to represent the input, server, and output was what simplified it
>>339718165
Say it with me kids,
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>>339718281
No, very known and reporteable. I know because of past chars and similar names with very obvious stuff.
>>339708649
>Giant head hitbox
>Pathethic damage
>Slow as hell when shooting
>Her ultimate only works against idiot teams
>>339718165
don't forget the Hanzo hitbox!
>>339718278
So you're assuming that just because someone plays FPS they automatically know what a tick rate is?
That's lulzy.
It's funny how you think the world revolves around you.
Keep it up son, you'll do great in life.
>>339718373
>>Her ultimate only works against idiot teams
Her ulti works well if you send it flying from far away and having it explode right when it's in reach
>>339718214
Considering you guys spend 18 hours a day in front of the computer I'd say it does apply.
>>339717882
75 damage is plenty to do in 180 degree area, with range extending past the animation. any more and he will solo wipe teams every time he has hammer down available. he's not meant to be a huge damage dealer, if he gets a damage buff there's no drawback to playing him, no reason to consider any other tank aside from roadhog.
Mei is a great defender. People who play her are fucking retarded, yes, but a good mei makes enemy attackers cry and anyone trying to push point break keyboards. It's the same as that useless fucker playing Hanzo on King of the Hill maps thinking he's doing good when he kills no one and then presses q for a single kill because his entire team is already dead playing a 5v6.
Mei is fine.
How is she even remotely like Soldier? Flying and rockets have nothing to do with sprinting and healing. Soldier outclasses most attackers in medium ranged combat, it's what he does. Pharrah needs no buffs. If you can't play her well, that's too bad, git gud or move along to another hero.
You want to give Roadhog 1150hp? Zarya 700? Mercy 350? You want literally no one to die ever in this game? What the fuck?
Some heroes need more HP, like Zenyatta, but I'm afraid that buff will come with a nerf to Discord orb. He is weak as fuck because of that ability being so strong. You can't have it all on one hero, he's one of my mains and I would love buffs for him but seriously he's already pretty good.
You really need to play him with Reinhardt at the moment though. I think they messed up not giving him a mobility ability.
Aside from that, not many heroes need more HP.
>>339716972
Defense. He thrives on popping out of doorways and ambushing people, not attacking.
>>339718317
You can favour the shooter without having a fucking shit tickrate
>>339718484
>expects everyone in the thread to take their time to explain something to them because they don't understand
>"funny how you think the world revolves around you"
that was some good bait, can't believe I fell for it
>>339716380
No, fuck off. Dailies are pure, ascended cancer and should never be implemented.
>>339718887
>No, fuck off. Dailies are pure, ascended cancer and should never be implemented.
Meanwhile random cosmetic drops (even if you purchase chests with real money) in a full price game is good.
>>339719278
Random cosmetics are fine, daily grinds are cancer, worse thing they ever added to WOW.
>>339710810
Fucking temple of Anubis, that first stage of attack. B R U H
there is something wrong with aiming.
it is bit floaty
Give +25 shield to zenyatta.
Or give him two orbs to be used at once, each at half it's total power.
Boom zenyatta balanced.
>>339718165
what the fucking shit
>>339708649
She needs a "detonate" button for her ult, risk is popping early will catch you in its explosion. She doesn't have anything marked to RMB in either form so not hard to juggle the controls to implement it.
>USK logo
Wieso nicht du kriegst gefickt?
I think the main reason to nerf McCree is to make Reaper viable.
As long as McCree exists in his current form, you're completely retarded if you choose Reaper. Not only is McCree better at killing, but McCree hardcounters Reaper
>>339718484
yo
>>339717897
fuck off and kill yourself in the process
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPOuldGZXoQ&feature=youtu.be&t=3m35s
>Blizzard thinks this is okay
>>339719278
One thing being bad does not make another thing good, retard
>>339719278
unlocks for cosmetics in full priced games was the standard for a long long time until cash shops started becoming prevalent. Them being random kind of sucks, but its still a lot better than most games are doing these days
why is blizzard so blatantly racist?
>>339719701
that just looks like someone who's good at the game, something this game rewards preciously little
>>339719701
(3 minutes 35 seconds is what I'm referring to)
>every blizzard game will now always have microtransactions since WoW players fell for it
>when they make money for it every other developer will do the same
Where were you when Blizzard literally killed gaming?
>>339708461
Fix the fucking loot boxes, instead of jewing them out for micro transactions stop them from giving duplicates all the fucking time.
>>339719701
>Genji is Crazy
>get Seagull doing Seagull things
Not sure what I expected tbqh.
>>339710383
>KOTH is literally the only gamemode that isn't chokepoint central and actually requires some sort of strategy
>the mode where you put your beefiest characters in a circle then skate around them with lucio requires more strategy than the mode where you have to use your team to advance a dynamically moving point across an entire stage
>>339719992
the trend was started by Valve and every other developer already does it.
You missed the Widowmaker nerf.
>>339712613
Volskaya is the worst. Mass murder pit in Cap B and the floating platform is Bastion's and Thonbjorn cum dump
>>339720083
>implying the game requires any strategy at all when you can literally just have everyone go the same character and steam roll everyone else.
I don't get people bitching at D.Va. My best games have been as her.
The trick is not to play as a tank to soak up damage but to be extremely aggressive and annoying. I agree her crit box is way too big but the rest of her kit is great. Boost into snipers/healers, gun them down, boost back to safety or ult into the enemy team.
You don't need damage when you can disrupt the enemy team or manage to get 1 or 2 of them to chase you.
>>339720224
I could explain how that doesn't work when the other team is actually playing the game but you know that and you're just shitposting.
>>339720243
Dva is an offense hero with a too big health pool and a too shitty gun.
>>339720243
desu the only thing remotely dangerous of a D.va is her ult. I pretty much ignore her or just spam at her mech if I'm defending at long distance otherwise.
>dvas gun sucks
>it melts ANYONE when you aren't trying to snipe with it
Literally every complaint you guys have about any character can be boiled down to you not being aware to how to position yourself in 3dimensional space properly
>>339718887
I think they'll add more to the game, but to each their own, faggot.
>>339720326
>random pubs all the time
>teams being competent
pick one, because you can't have both, especially not with the retards that play blizzards shit
>>339720382
Those are bad D.Vas. She needs to be right in the enemy team or get a couple of them to chase her. Otherwise, yes, playing D.Va like Reinhardt is pointless.
At point blank, she melts Healers and snipers.
The only character that needs a change is Mei and her freezin. Having your aiming slowed down before your frozen is the only bad thing that should be changed so you at least have a chance to fight back before you get frozen by that fucking cunt Mei
>>339720589
So by moving the goalpost(then kicking a strawball through them)I can only assume you admit my initial point was correct. Good talk, anon.
>>339720727
Well, there are like 4 other heroes I'm way more worried at point blank than D.Va.
How would you nerf Hanzo and Widow?
>>339719992
your like 8 years late and pointing the finger at the wrong company. A combination of valve and mobile gaming made microtransactions commonplace.
>>339719701
>>339719812
What, killing the pharah? I don't see what's wrong. Genji is like the one character in the game that rewards skillful play
>>339720901
>he hasn't played aganst a team of all Soldiers just blazing through everything.
>>339720965
And that's exactly why I do great with her. People ignore me and when they start catching on, I already killed two of them.
>>339720816
I agree with this. Give us a fucking chance to defend ourselves before we get frozen and she's alright
So we're all agreed that this game is dying in about a month, right?
>>339720589
so you can count on the other team to be organized and have a set plan but not your own? I know it can feel like that sometimes, but you cant really honestly believe thats how it works right?
>Blizzard has had terrible releases of every game they've put out since WoW
>people expect MOBA Shooter to be any different.
Blizzard died in 2007.
>>339721183
Naaah.
That's fucking retarded. This game is doing amazingly well
>>339721027
>Abloo ablooo sniper 2OP
git gud you fucking fag
>>339721086
>I have never sat in spawn refusing to change team composition for 7 minutes
You are correct
>>339718616
exactly thats why his shield nerfed
i thought it would be better for reinhardt to be really feared in close range, but for it to be very hard for him to get in close range and teams would have to be very cautious getting close to him, rather than rushing past his shield and clobbering him
as for the extra respawn times it feels like i can just run in, eat shit and die and have no consequence, and i think it would be better for shit like that to be more punished
So why is this game more about picking the character to kill the other teams character, rather than being good at a character?
>>339721183
Dropping playerbase starting next month, f2p by December.
>>339721552
Because Blizz cant into game design
>>339708887
I hate Korea's male fanshion sense.
>>339721552
because you suck at your chosen character
>>339708461
>>higher tickrates
No. If they brought it up to 64tick, they would be more than tripling the processing power their servers use. Just so you can have a 3%-of-a-second larger window to peak around a corner?
That's not a valuable tradeoff.
People who complain about 20 tick are the worst kind of casuals. The entitled kind who blame all their shortcomings on the game's mechanics
>>339721552
If you want a character that can take on anyone, 1v1.
McCree
Widowmaker
Hanzo
There you go friendo
>>339721995
Don't forget Rodhog
>>339721552
You mean a class based shooter?
>>339721565
Even worst case scenario Overwatch will probably be kept alive by a dedicated core, if HOTS is anything to go by (and that was a game that was very late into the MOBA trend).
>>339711612
this guy knows whats up
>>339721948
Casuals don't even know what tick rate is, and anyone who is okay with a 20 tick rate server when almost every other game uses 64 tick rate servers is honestly the biggest casual
>>339721552
it's not, you would know this if you actually did any amount of research at all. It's about constructing a well balanced team that works well together on a specific objective.
>>339722720
>the most casualized arena shooter is for casuals
Color me fucking surprised.
>>339723086
>arena shooter
Are you dumb?
>>339722720
The tickrate hardly even matters when the packetrate is lower
>Team complains about our Double McCree instead of taking out the enemy Widowmaker
>We even have a Widowmaker to counter
>She does nothing
>"Could you take out the enemy sniper you fucking retard"
>"Only if one of our McCrees switches to Pharah"
>why
>The POTG is the enemy Widowmaker killing our entire team without any retaliation from our own
>"I did all I could; I got silver elims. Must've been our Double McCrees' fault."
Why are people so fucking bad at this game.
>>339723086
>Calls a FPS MOBA an arena shooter
i laff
>>339711587
>Worried about casuals invading the most casual FPS ever made
>Infinite ammo
>Aimbots
>Wallhacks
>"MUH CASUALS, THE HIGH PRICE TAG AND CASH SHOP ARE BARRIERS TO ENTRY I SWEAR"
>>339722720
It's over triple the workload for only one third of one tenth of a second faster ticks. Calling someone a casual isn't going to change that.
>>339723247
If Overwatch is a moba, then so is Quake Fortress
>>339713590
>Stop projecting. I can survive well without a crappy healer with Roadhog, Mei, or 76
>3 characters with self healing
ebin
>community servers
never gonna happen, south korea ruined it for the rest of us
>>339723390
>sending updates to a client from the server 20 times a second as apposed to 64 times a second is bad because workload
no
>How to nerf McCree
Make his fan of hammer last accurate
>How to Buff D.Va
Make her movement speed a bit faster when shooting
There I fixed Overwatch
>>339708461
Game is shit $60 for quick play and all i have played was the same game mode and map over and over i Payed $60 for one map. Battle born is worth $60
>>339708461
Play shitty game get shitty results
>>339723330
It's not a cash shop, it's more like dollar slots where all you can win is halloween costumes and spray paint stencils.
Why anyone would even fucking bother with it is beyond me
Someone post the hanzo potg image please
>>339719625
No she doesn't you can survive the explosion, you're just terrible. You do know you can detonate it while thrusting and jump out moving backwards right?
You can also get away from it just by running I dont know wtf you're doing wrong.
>>339723683
>you get sprays
what, I can't put in my own sprays?
>>339723580
It's unreasonable and to demand it is proof of gamer entitlement
>>339723540
That's just an excuse.
Blizzard just doesn't want you making mods of their games or altering their shitty play styles in any way, not to mention how crazy casual the game is and how quickly servers would die as a result, and it being locked to 6v6 means that community servers would just be the same handful of people all the time, and if they upped it to 12v12 it would probably break the game because it would just be ult spamming unfun garbage.
>>339721053
No, getting show behind a wall despite dashing before mccree ults.
>>339723812
low tier bait homie, almost as unacceptable as a 20 tickrate server
>>339723540
oh yeah, also forgot dota, blizzard is too jewish about lost profits to ever allow modding or hosted servers
>>339714276
actually most of those are good ideas
cooldowns are pretty boring, if the abilities weren't so diverse and interesting in the first place it would be even more apparent
>>339723804
No. This game doesn't need a bunch of BLACKED and MLP on the walls everywhere
>>339708461
Stop playing it.
>>339723981
>Everything you do in the game must be approved by Blizzard's lawyers before hand
And people paid for this shit?
Oky:
Pharah:
+50 or 75 hp
+Head hitbox increased slightly
Her armour is tankier, but headshots remain the main viable strat for stopping JUSTICE FROM ABOVE
>>339723947
There is nothing wrong with 20 tick. If whatever you were doing could get you killed with a 0.034 longer tick, then it was a shitty move to begin with.
Stop blaming bad plays on the game. When you do that, you take away some of your own ability to improve.
>People actually believe Blizzard won't charge them for more characters and maps and modes
Have you people lived under a rock for the past ten years?
>This is casual
You mean this doesn't work like your favourite fps?
Could be because it's a moba hybrid
>>339724081
>wanting porn sprays all over your screen when playing video games
CSS was garbage
fuck off valvedrones
>>339724081
Small price for not having bronies.
>>339724225
There is everything wrong with 20 tick rate when the norm is triple what overwatch servers are
and it's nothing to do with plays and more to do with literally everything
>>339724431
>being in jail is fine if it means I don't have to see a picture
>>339713714
The problem isn't pharah's HP, it's that hitscan heroes assfuck her and more HP won't fix that. The worst is those widow bodyshots at 150, which is fucking absurd since widow shits on any hero that can't negate her shots or make such a hard target of themselves that they can avoid getting shot.
Basically what I'm saying is that Pharah is probably one of the most well-balanced heroes, and Widow and her zero-effort railgun can eat shit.
>>339724081
SHIT GAME BECAUSE I CAN'T SPRAY SWASTIKAS AND PORN ON WALLS FUCKING KEKS REEEEEE
>replace ultimates with more interesting cooldown or movement abilities
>remove shitty turrets
>remove healers, this isn't WoW you fat blobs
>add big titty taimanin melee hero
>add loli magical girl hero with a mana pool
there, it's now perfect
>>339724081
It's okay when Blizzard doesn't allow for any customization.
>>339724373
>css
>implying only css had it
your age is showing homie
>See Overwatch in a store
>Play a bit to see what games the casuals are enjoying nowadays
>Pick Soldier because he seem the most straightforward
>Use my superior cognitive functions to out-maneuver and flank that Reaper faggot without him noticing me
>Shoot him directly in the head for 3 fucking seconds
>He slowly turns around, shoots me twice
>I die
Is this what you find enjoyable? Games where actual skill is completely arbitrary in favor of rock-paper-scissor and other unintuitive mechanics?
>>339724549
>I will pay people to take away my freedom
good to know
>>339708461
I tried to like this, my average life span was about 25 seconds and the community I encountered was toxic to new players. Seems to me to be another title that if you don't start from day one you might as well not bother.
>>339724705
Yes, welcome to Blizzard's new world.
>>339724279
>infinite ammo
>No advanced mechanics
>Wall hacks
>Aim bots
>I Win buttons
>Hard counters
Yes anon, the game is extremely casual.
You can learn every single class in about 10 hours inside and out, while I don't think I ever fully mastered Solider in TF2 with close to 1000 hours total in the game, much less the other classes.
It's not a lot to ask for when you want to keep a game alive beyond the initial hype.
>>339724709
>muh freedom
yeah like homeless people, graffiti, and piss in public places are features
>>339708461
all they have to do with community servers/gamemodes/maps if they are so concerned on the balance is just make it so you don't gain any xp from them.
>>339724830
>it's okay when Blizzard removes features that every other FPS has
>>339724778
No, it's a game that you shouldn't bother playing unless you have 5 friends to play with, and then you have to hope you all like it so much that you /keep/ playing it, and nobody turns into "that guy" who keeps bothering everyone else to play when they don't want to, because the game sucks alone and they don't want to be trapped with shitters.
>>339724887
but it's not a feature I want or enjoy. It's a nuisance.
>>339710070
I take it that you only play Lucio?
>>339724709
>I want to take away the dev's freedom to make the game how they want to make it so I can be a special snowflake
Get the fuck out of my country you freedom hating commie
>>339708461
>higher tickrates
Yes, it was stupid to set it so low by default
>community servers
I love community servers but knowing Blizzard it won't happen and would be useless if it did. At most it'd be vanilla everything hosted by someone else.
>Comp mode
Pretty sure they're already adding this in
>nerf McCree
They probably will nerf him after all the bitching but he was mostly fine as is. He's a great 1v1 skirmisher. The amount of whining I've seen from people that didn't know how to play the game or tried to 1v1 him with one of the classes he counters is just retarded.
>buff D.Va
Again, she's mostly fine. She could use a buff to her movement speed while firing but other than that she's great. It's just people having no idea how to play her well or trying to 1v1 her counters.
The only characters that needs any kind of real buffing is Zenyatta and Symmetra.
Zen because his support and offense abilities require him to keep up with other characters but he's the slowest and least mobile class in the game.
Symmetra because she's only good at one specific part of one specific game mode on defense. After the first point has been lost to the attackers she's trash. She either needs to be entirely reworked or abandoned to her incredibly specific niche.
As for nerfs I wouldn't mind seeing 76 nerfed. He's supposed to be a jack of all trades/master of none but he's great at just about everything with no real hard counters against him. He's just annoying as shit to play against if the 76 knows what they're doing. Granted I may be biased because I main D.Va.
>>339724830
>Paying more for less
>20 tick rate
Honestly what the fuck were they thinking?
I can't tell you how many times I've died when I was already safely behind a corner on my screen.
You want to know how you make overwatch good?
Just make it a porn game, the female character models are literally the only good thing about the game.
>>339725078
>What were they thinking
"How can we save us more money?"
>>339724480
0.034 seconds is an almost imperceptible amount of time. You're sperging out over something you can't even see
>>339710070
>ching chong tower, also known as spam the fuck out of lucio tower
>good
>>339725078
That happens in literally every game with hitscan weapons, regardless of tickrate
>>339711680
This is the single most pathetic excuse I have ever seen for any fps.
>"Artistic choice we made for the sake of fairness."
Oh yeah? McCree flashbang and right-click combo?
Hanzo landing arrows that he should never have landed?
Widowmaker and hitboxes of heads?
That's "artistic" and fair? I seems like they just used a few buzzwords that sound smart coming from a developer and packed them in there to make people shut up. I seriously hope that this game will die, because of how retarded blizzard handles feedback and it seems that I'm gonna get my will.
Tournaments are lacking sponsors because big companies like ESL and MLG won't hold tournaments, the tournaments THAT are being held will exclude multiple hero picks, and the forums are flooded with complaints about the 20hz client refreshrate, the imbalance of characters due to stupid game design and the multiple hero problem.
I guess Titan will fail after all.
I suck at using 76 and Reaper how do I git gud?
>>339725334
It's not as egregious as Overwatch.
>>339724489
No, it's more I don't can use any picture but that means retards won't use theirs.
TF2 proved it doesn't work, people are cancer. Stay with your bronies in your dead game.
>LG
Phara
Zenyatta
Reinhardt
>NG
Mei
Winston
Mercy
Zarya
Tracer
>CG
McCree
Lucio
76
>LN
Symmetra
Hanzo
>TN
Torbjorn
Bastion
>CN
D.Va
>LE
Widowmaker
>NE
Reaper
>CE
Junkrat
Roadhog
>>339725474
Or maybe it's just your perception of it because you just learned what tickrate is, or because it's more recent in your memory, or about a half dozen other cognitive biases that I'm sure you didn't consider.
>>339725078
It's not 20hz rickrate you stupid fuck, that's the client refreshrate.
Tickrate is the overall communication between client and server.
In the case of overwatch it's like this
>Client --60hz---Server
>Server--20hz--Client
(60hz+20hz)/2 = 40hz
>>339725228
I bet youve never played any sort of FPS ever, the difference between a csgo 64 tick server and a community 128 tick server is astonishing, its the exact same for 20 tick and 64 tick so no, you're wrong
>everyone hating on Mei
fuck you
>>339725687
What? We're not teenage girls texting one another you faggot. Quit using acronyms and actually spell out what you mean.
>>339711286
>Welcome to the Game
>5 min later
>You've been banned from this server reason: You killed admin
>>339711286
>>339725959
+1
matchmaking is fine
>>339725814
>CSGO
I've been playing FPS on PC since Counterstrike was a mod. Tick differences are not significant unless you make overly risky moves.
>>339725829
They need to make her movement when selecting the wall to be slightly slowed down. I hate fighting against and can't think much of what else they could do to nerf her that wouldn't make her completely useless. she can easily be OP at they moment unless you have an actual retard playing her.
>>339725078
it's not really that it's their "muh honor the shooter" rule
so you can get rolled back by your lag + their lag as long as they clicked on you on their computer
>>339725736
>Overwatch has a very low tickrate which means that statistically there will be more wallkills than other games
>"LOL BRO YOU JUST THINK YOU GET SHOT MORE BEHIND WALLS, LOSE YOUR BIASES"
>>339708461
>60 tick
>community serves
>remove reload from McCree's roll and put either a light CD on fth or a unique reload animation
>make it so you can't fucking see the enemy's ult on the killcam
>make it so offense cannot see the defense team's lineup before the match starts
>on payload, make the time elapsed during overtime start cutting into the added time for reaching a checkpoint
>on KotH, longer respawn time for the the contesting team during the duration of overtime
>lower the ult priority on PotG and create new parameters for more unique plays (rush point captures, damage blocking/absorption, ect.)
>fix the poppy textures of several skins
I still can't believe they have the gall to treat the game competitively when you can see your killer's ult status during the kill cam.
>>339711753
>wow healer not the hardest role
I'll fite u dps scum
>>339726430
You can't lose your biases. All you can do is be mindful of them and not base your entire argument around them. You're not using your experience to support lower tickrate translating to more wallkills, you're using the idea to support your experience. That's not how you form an argument
>>339726430
its actually pretty easy to notice every once and a while on kill cams.
I've had a few times where I did some action (road hog hook) then died, but on my kill cam I died before I ever hooked.
Repeat for other obvious things (Rhine's charge)
>>339726178
Wrong, if you played CS while it was still a mod then you'd know that a higher tick rate is essential for any FPS and not just because of "risky moves" with lower tick rates you get shitty hit detection, with shitty hit detection you get shot behind walls, miss headshots, body shots, and generally any shots you take because where you think you're aiming isn't where you're actually aiming
this is why ESEA servers now, and CAL servers back in 1.6 used 128 tick servers over the standard 64 tick
>>339725025
>Again, she's mostly fine. She could use a buff to her movement speed while firing but other than that she's great.
No, she's not great. Even if they buff her movement speed while firing she's still just an objectively worse Winston. Blizzard needs to pick a role for her, and tune her more toward it. As it stand right now she's in limbo between tank and offense, and doesn't offer many advantages over picking another hero from one side of the other.
>>339725687
McCree is clearly LG though. He's got to dispense justice according to his moral code.
>>339726875
>do rocket jump right before I die
>my limp body flies around like a dead monkey
>don't even see it on the kill cam
You forgot to change widow's charge time and damage variables. She can clear teams in 5 seconds right now.
Make dva's crit box smaller and make her move at normal speed while firing.
mcree's FtH now has a 10s cool down and a wider spread.
>>339725687
Someone explain these acronyms?
>>339728652
Alignment.
>>339725687
>Junkrat and Roadhog
>Chaotic Evil
Choatic Neutral if anything. Reaper is the only CE.
>>339714172
This. It's not a bad game, but with only the couple games modes it isn't worth 40 bucks or however much it is. It's worth 30 at most, reasonably 25. Once they introduce more game modes it would be worth 40 tops.
Maybe I'm in scrub bracket but I don't think D.va needs a buff. She play very well as a high mobility/high hitpoint harasser.
>>339712613
Numbani is way too easy to defend in my opinion
any maps with environment deaths are fun
