Have we lost?
>>339673858
It happened once, it can happen again. A hero of a thousand will pull through to us and make it possible.
Meanwhile, buy the games you really want. Don't pay for anything questionable.
>tfw your favorite series hasnt been hit by denuvo yet
>>339674217
>he is so cancer that he doesn't buy the games from his favorite series
>>339673858
no, i am sure Denuvo simply pay the chinese to stop cracking instead actually doing secuROM
Its pretty suspicious if you ask me
>>339674453
fuck off white knight faggot
>>339674601
Hang yourself, I hope your favorite series dies off
>>339674595
We'll know when Bethesda lays off the team because their bonuses went to the chinese and russian scene as hush money.
>>339674708
>defending businesses
You do realise they don't give a shit about you right? You buy the game if you want and that's that.
How about you buy games like you're supposed to?
>DUDE MUH FREE SHIT IT'S LIKE 2016 MAN
Get some proper fucking paying work you worthless NEET.
>>339676950
>>339676950
Yes you buy the games you like except if you are cancer like yourself
>>339673858
Yeah, it's like the 50th time piracy dies in the last 2 decades.
>>339673858
no because i don't steal
>>339677786
>>339677863
How about no?
Oh well, have to keep playing my pirated copy of TW3, oh, that's right, it's not even pirated, I didn't need crack.
Can't wait to play Blood and Wine.
>>339676950
Business and consumers have a symbiotic relationship. The business creates products the consumer enjoy / find useful, the consumer pays money to the business. They have the duty to care for each other.
Of course they don't care for you. They only care about your money. In the same way you don't care about them; you care about the products they create.
>>339674453
Oh wow, a neet from /v/ has insulted me, i'm now going to pay $30 for TW3 just to keep having the same experience.
lmfao
>>339676950
>this much mental gymnastics
they care about making money, when people steal to the point that it impacts their profits, they do this or cancel good game series that fags pirate.
you are as much a cancer to the industry as indie/feminists
>>339676950
>you do realise they don't give a shit about you right?
>>339678413
But The Witcher 3 came out without DRM and has been much more succesful than any Denuvo game.
In fact, not a single Denuvo game has surpassed 1 million copies, and among it, there's gigantic bombs like Homefront The Revolution or Far Cry Primal, which sold 1/5th of what FC4 did.
>>339678036
>In the same way you don't care about them; you care about the products they create.
Exactly, I care about playing the games, that's why I pirate them.
No reason to buy them.
>>339678413
>industry
Is why I don't care.
>>339678625
But if you don't support them they'll stop creating those games you're enjoying.
You're unbalancing the equation.
>>339678564
>In fact, not a single Denuvo game has surpassed 1 million copies
Are we only talking about PC sales? MGSV and Battlefront definitely sold over 1 million copies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denuvo
>>339676950
Allow me
>>339678764
No, there will always be people like you guys to pay for them.
If a game flops, my lone purchase won't change a thing, so go ahead, and keep buying videogames.
>>339678821
MGSV sold 930k according to Steamspy, and I don't know about Battlefront, but it definatly sold very little considering there's like 20 times less players on PC than onconsoles.
>>339678821
>MGSV
Can this really be counted as a full Denuvo game I mean sure it has Denuvo but it's easily piratable.
>>339676950
Your reasoning is perfectly fine, don't purchase the game, businesses don't care about you just like you don't care about them.
Just don't bitch when something like Denuvo comes out
>>339676950
literally nigger tier logic.
>I's don't gots ta pay fo it if I's don't wants ta pay
*looks at the games with denuvo*
"no"
>>339678564
>In fact, not a single Denuvo game has surpassed 1 million copies
that's not even close to true
a fucking google search can prove that wrong
>Arkham Knight
>Battlefront EA
>Rise of the Tomb Raider
>MGSV
>Just Cause 3
>Dragon Age
Im sure when the dust settles on Hitman, DOOM, and Mirror's Edge they also will pass that mark
cherry picking 2 shit games prove literally nothing other than you have no case
>>339678976
Really does not matter whether its been cracked or not still has Denuvo.
>>339678992
I'm buying games, but i'm bitching about Denuvo because it prevents tinkering with the launcher, so things like DSfix wouldn't be possible.
>>339678903
>my lone purchase won't change a thing
Now imagine they thosands of others who say this
>>339679082
I can agree on this. As a legitimate consumer I hate the fact mods and other things are not feasible because of something I'm not a part of.
Modding has always been one of the big strengths of PC gaming.
>>339673858
Nah. Nothing is "uncrackable," and just like every other anti-piracy measure, someone will find a way around it after some time.
>inb4 " hurr just buy the game u neet"
I have a job and I pay for games, I'm just stating a fact.
>>339679223
To be fair PC games modding has been dead for a while, even before the arrival of Denuvo.
>>339679065
>Arkham Knight
550k
http://steamspy.com/app/208650
>Battlefront
Not many, considering it's completely dead and it never had many players to begin with.
>Rise of the Tomb Raider
730k
http://steamspy.com/app/391220
>MGSV
Has been stuck in the 900k's since January
http://steamspy.com/app/287700
>Just Cause 3
http://steamspy.com/app/225540
Has been stuck at 500k's since February
>Dragon Age
I think this one was a gigantic flop due to EA's refusal to release sale numbers.
>Hitman
190k
http://steamspy.com/app/236870
Denuvo doesn't help the sales of any game.
Marketing does.
A good thing about Denuvo is that both we and the developers have real sales data for PC gamers.
>>339679081
>non pirateble games don't sell
It doesen't matter if it's easily piratable.
>>339679286
Tell that to Bethesda games.
Fallout 4 already has more mods than New Vegas.
>>339679361
>Denuvo doesn't help the sales of any game.
[citation needed]
>>339679434
Outside of valve games, Bethesda games are some of the only big games for mods in recent memory.
Ironically enough they are absolute trash tier games without mods.
>>339679361
>using a site that was confirmed to be inaccurate
you can check wiki you fuckwit
>>339679361
I ended buying Lords of the Fallen a year after it was released because a. it was on sale and b. no crack (that was two months before the game was actually cracked).
So, you can argue that it actually helped with one sale.
>>339679361
Most average consumers are not even aware a game has Denuvo or even what it is before buying them. I honestly don't see how it affects sales either way.
>pirate games
>steal games from store
Congrats, you never have to pay again.
>>339673858
Yes
>>339679451
Games that have sold more than any Denuvo game.
The Witcher 3
http://steamspy.com/app/292030
This one is funny because it was marketed as a game without DRM, same for The Witcher 2.
Dying Light
http://steamspy.com/app/239140
Borderlands franchise.
http://steamspy.com/app/49520
http://steamspy.com/app/8980
http://steamspy.com/app/261640
Far Cry 3, this one is funny too because it sold almost 20 times more than Far Cry Primal, which uses Denuvo.
http://steamspy.com/app/220240
First 3 Batman Arkham Games.
http://steamspy.com/app/200260
http://steamspy.com/app/35140
http://steamspy.com/app/209000
Total War Shogun 2
http://steamspy.com/app/34330
Wolfenstein TNO
http://steamspy.com/app/201810
Fallout franchise
http://steamspy.com/app/22370
http://steamspy.com/app/22380
http://steamspy.com/app/377160
I could go on all day.
>>339679527
>wiki
You mean the site that I could edit right now in 5 seconds?
>>339679361
>all these shit games
>implying they are shit because of DRM you don't like
>Arkham Knight
literally was so bad because they had 2 weeks to port it
>Battlefront
EA
>Tomb Raider
the remake has been shit
>MGSV
disappointing game from a series that has had declining sales from the beginning of the franchise
>Just Cause 3
only does good when price drops, look at the first one that has barley double that. the sequel had an extremely popular mod and was memed into sales after a price drop
>dragon age
>i think
facts only faggot + EA
>Hitman
Episodic game that is poorly optimised on PC and most people are waiting to buy, if /v/ is any counter for that
>Game can't get cracked for a year
>People who want to support the game and the developer buy it
>A year later the game is cracked so both the ones who never wanted to spend money on it or literally couldn't buy it can enjoy it
>The game gets to be archived for posterity.
The optimal situation.
>>339679892
>Arkham Knight is less popular than the Witcher 3
I wonder fucking why
>>339679614
>>339679906
>>339679980
That's what i'm saying.
Denuvo doesn't affect sales, it's not going to improve or fuck them over, marketing does, and also how the port is.
Piracy is not going to change anything, because pirates will either end up buying the game anyway, or will pirate even $1 games.
>>339679892
>Games that have sold more than any Denuvo game.
How does that prove your point?
>>339679892
>Listing games that have been on sale for years, even as part of humble bundles
Ayyyyyyyy
Fucking Fallout 3 was released eight years ago.
>>339680027
The fact that piracy didn't kill even the game that was marketed as ''PIRATE IT IF YOU WANT TO''.
>>339680017
sorry no proof of this the quality of almost all Denuvo games are low, with a few exceptions like DOOM that just came out and is at 500K currently
also say it doesn't affect one thing at all, why should companies make room for special snowflakes who think they are entitled to free shit? go back to tumblr
>>339680108
The Witcher series is insanely popular with the PC crowd.
I'm sure it would sell the same if it had Denuvo.
>>339680251
That only proves what i'm saying even more.
Good games will sell, shit games will sell like shit, regardless of piracy, and piracy won't change a thing in sales.
Market your game hard enough, don't make it a shitty port and it'll sell like hotcakes.
>why should companies make room for special snowflakes who think they are entitled to free shit
I feel entitled to mods.
>>339680017
>being this retarded
so you think companies shouldn't do it because it probably doesn't affect them either way and people should just steal what they want? Im glad Denuvo pushed you fags into a crying corner
>>339680374
And that would only prove what i'm saying more.
Denuvo isn't affecting the sales of anything.
They are not improving, they are not getting worse.
>>339680419
I'm saying they should stop wasting their money and getting rid of my ability to mod games properly, yes.
>>339679678
>Can't take serial keys from the shops anymore. They are all in protective cases.
Just end me now.
Also,still wont buy.
>>339680514
Generally if a company continues to use something, they don't feel it's a waste of money.
>>339680383
except you have no data that tracks this at all
nearl all the games under devuno except DOOM, total warhammer, and hitman are fucking shit for one reason or another.
Hitman being episodic and poorly optimised murdered it's sales
DOOM will easily make over 1m
Total Warhammer is more niche and probably will do good for the series
but if you are proving a point that Devuno does nothing but stop entitled idiots, then it is a good thing
>>339680514
>mod this
>mod that
>mod this
>mod that
You aren't tricking anyone. You just want shit for free.
>>339680419
Are you saying these companies care about anything but money?
Or that they spend their day saying
>Huurrr, these pirates that won't buy these games anyway, i'm going to get at them by spending money, even though earning money is the only reason i'm doing this...
>>339679678
>implying your average /v/irgin has the social self-confidence to leave their personal bubble and enter Normieland
>>339680683
If you don't protect your software no one will be willing to pay for it.
>>339680680
Excellent argument.
Want me to post all the Denuvo games in my Steam library?
>>339680678
The problem is that stops people like me who want to mod games.
Doom 1 and 2 are still big because of the modding community, while the new Doom doesn't have any of that because Denuvodoomedit.
>>339680534
>>339680694
Get a ski mask and a hammer and say you are the cleanup crew. I done it 6 times and never failed.
>just cause 2 multiplayer was pretty fun
>it will never happen with just cause 3 because of denuvo
lmao
>>339680896
I didn't know I could play all of those games for free, without doing anything illegal like downloading a copyright-protected copy and using a crack.
Also, as I said before
>listing games that have been on sale for years, games that have been on sale for $1 and are part of popular franchises like Fallout
>>339679608
But did you have fun playing it?
>>339681243
You can play them for free.
And they sold better than all Denuvo games.
>>339681271
It was fun.
For one playthrough (played as a warrior). 28 hours, no regrets. I'm glad I didn't pay full price for them.
>>339680683
Im saying there's no """evidence""" either way that you have presented
unless there is a clear track of game sales, Borderlands 3, as an example, to have this DRM and it's game sales on steam take a massive hit, growth, or nothing. then you have no """proof""" to even state a neutral claim, because every single game with the DRM is a reboot, low selling game
When you say that all these games are under 1M btw,that's not shocking since most steam games are under that.
you aren't bringing anything to this arguement other than being an entitled child about it
>>339681321
You still don't understand why you can't compare those particular titles to Denuvo-protected games, don't you?
I'm done with you.
>>339681370
How am I being an entitled child for pointing out that Denuvo hasn't affected sales in any way?
>>339680817
>Want me to post all the Denuvo games in my Steam library?
You don't buy games over $5 though
>>339681446
You said unprotected games wouldn't sell, but they do.
So why did you say it?
>>339681534
Woops.
>>339681460
you're saying it shouldn't exist because it doesn't affect sales so pirates should just be allowed to pirate
>>339681943
I don't care about pirates, it shouldn't exist because it prevents modding.
Want to prevent piracy?
Find a way that doesn't affect your consumers, because for me, not being able to mod is not worth a completely inexistant sale increase that could improve port quality in the future.
>>339681770
this is easily the worst MSpaint job i've ever seen on this site
>>339682027
don't get mad at me hothead, or the companies who logically went down this road. be mad at the pirates who are ruining PC gaming
>>339682029
Want to add me on Steam so we can play some Snapmap matches?
>>339682123
I'm not mad at you, i'm mad at companies creating a problem for me, when piracy only affects them.
Piracy is not my problem, so the consequences of getting rid of it shouldn't affect me.
>>339673858
>SecuROM
>StarForce
I'll just wait.
>>339682219
>play snapmap
proof right there anon
>>339682304
>COMPANIES SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO REACT TO PEOPLE WHO HARM THEM
why hothead?
>>339682515
Companies shouldn't harm me if i'm buying their games.
It's not my fault people are pirating the game.
>>339682438
If you don't want to add me, anything I can do to prove it to you?
Wanna ask me to do something unique in Doom?
>>339682571
How does Denuvo harm you in any way
>>339682571
>harm me
how are they harming you?
did they fire you from your job? did they kill your family? did they hire people to attack you? oh wait they made video games you don't like as much, that's right.
>>339678475
>>339678851
such a compelling argument
>>339682654
>>339682662
It prevents modding.
If Dark Souls 1 had used Denuvo, DSfix wouldn't have been possible, and the game would have remained a 720p, 30 FPS limited port forever.
>>339682652
I don't need to, you just said you play snap map, which is proof you are lying.
>>339682714
I agree /r/gaming poster
>not giving remote access to VLADIMIRE and paying $2 instead of $120 for the game + DLC
Based Russia
>>339673858
>pirating anime
>perfectly fine
>pirating movies
>perfectly fine
>pirating music
>perfectly fine
>pirating games
>"OH MY GOD, HOW DARE YOU YOU FUCKING SCUMBAG! MR. SHEKELSBERGENSTEIN DESERVES THAT MONEY!"
It's not even for good games, sure if it was a small Japanese company I could understand, but not for most shit
>>339682735
and that's harming you? you are currently being harmed by these companies who do this? you would have been personally harmed if you couldn't make a shitty game slightly better?
>>339682889
except it isn't? the same children that think that's okay think pirating games are okay. Companies aren't as easily able to do it for everything else
>>339682767
Go ahead, ask me to do whatever you want.
>>339682735
>if i cant mod you're harming me
literally snek
>>339682858
isn't giving someone remote access to your PC incredibly dangerous
>>339679892
Witcher 3 doesnt even count the GOG sales, I bought it on GOG, my friends did too.
>>339683081
>i took a screenshot from kotaku therefor im legit guise
fuck off tumblr
>>339679361
>Battlefront
>Not many, considering it's completely dead and it never had many players to begin with.
It sold over 12 million units. You can strawman or move goalposts, but the notion of SW Battlefront not selling is ridiculous.
>>339678036
You sad, sad, sad little tool.
>>339683350
>>339683219
Are you dumb? I just reverse imaged searched that picture and got zero hits. Also
>fuck off tumblr when anon hasn't shown any characteristic colloquially associated with tumblr
I think you're just dumb.
>>339683219
Come on, don't be afraid to be wrong mate.
I would write ''Denuvo sux Smh Tbh'' but it would run out of memory.
>>339683350
You were saving that amazing post for a whole hour?
>>339683219
Reverse google gives no matches.
https://www.google.es/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZisdyRb2iwGX5AuTXogyCqUOmm1fLX3026sS2OIYXyPavoZQ4aRxzhS_1e_1LM0q04yMjR41e_1Dnzlc7zGzK1sPVnhjKZUyYbxP_1UbaS8lRTglFe9d6SYgqVfi42cNL8unNcSi_1ISbLpQV5rHS7AWLQbDlPoAPaqJWp37ctwcydjmjbhpRyTbszhMP5WwyF0p13WMDL2WUvja6cfs-D7b5GIguyFdTegvzWZCe_1gqbb1-t619rTfJqo0wTii9lXPXVTs3cqBaXgFg0mFlvODHm1zSd13y2WhkpUQ031tMzKlFoyXF9FsCr5xdFY1XIcPAedNITJsgxVRrhwBnhRLjVhOVxEYzhWnIiinLQy3iiBo_1ocOjujU6rYVLM4EpHFwCBcdVWgyDa2DcYdh3ciAYp4QbsjDywRz5qwW16HrPL7JxbJsUIIakx6XEhf-odvUTkWHEJ-FW9VcOtb9tHXrbNFD8ovrSwiaZSP_1XXD4_1WFFTnOrIfSTBb_17rVyoFlE1f5OmQ0sezWmheJ5aNnoXN08Tp1nN-X4IjH_15ZPEdQXPJpZLnsItJF2rqKcH6N9WKvWuy8RPvMHovIKj-zZp7qERIdSZTGVbDHRzA_1xd8P10KpsiUegV--mb138nc_1GjRWxDAOptXsYEE2spBxwzt_1Tw-2Af0chzCG8wmlv-07R43rsR3i2E0eVBacQQXoXt-BF8oqmh06OEttOaPPeYwrM8Lw6IQtUNQPIkQcX117LYj21eeVO8NWdDrCfcpdncV8Mcdkfz64F17RCQbsz4Ni-xCRPUj-XqHo-AKtnUFLA07af2Wf8Nf-KcUzRHf5k-iJUfO2kpsHlPvQtYGWseWZWqi8RzjzXT09LaI6jVhfiAidTe33_1zKs9YmOkW5xQVNHcMwaodo0mt_13HgndfwSfWog-Q9okqxwBoTy5u3RHAZvmwaA8vHicljwsHb2H7El3rOgFIAq6xnDEcvmUIR0RQTfJcq_15ukHl12ryw5s1Ci_1BeYnTxrDQUaYWPBdrc3cB_17pka52hnBQu7Mdof1xkYwbRZ3ixwMXFpg_1RljiQm9grhgADHbIDFChPJ6e9rmVYlfiBKfysVzCiP7-0Wr-LpGb_1meB1_1fVleTLy3Upt_1ObAJ3vG7zA5glAhkI4fQkb5G-2I0gkZXF3lmlLII1GOw2z7GufTM6kPGv2_1Gqj-1QF271fP_1TT8zo0ltKiKy8v4XEm4yyA0k_16Tfww3kmPS0q5xyV5tgEgXg4cLsXamIb3V888r3TT90tiHDPWMVX-cka8Rp8_1nVn6NGSn_1oZKtTR91mBf4_108NgN4uTrnVnylzvY30gkMENJl_1Ew85j7C46KEM3cUtShE8pqCzk3x4NH6dc0NKLCXzZ_1ShkVXbnXgJHWwkED4r2KFrYMZzOQ_1A9k_1eE0D-r9jAsXB-4w_1Upzy7bz0vDR49LjdmVUXy2-jEXstW5WA5Jr8EqqLMSWQEBkRj6l-TMy-xdzc_1umKaLj7Rb7VmiGF4AYLk-9YtUWWVmrEt7c7Qr1xyI96DxjfYK0OyvapmE8VQjNAKphV_1HOo8Qb4GlbC-kXi3jqh4VouqE68KqbkM&safe=off&gws_rd=cr&ei=nc9PV6OtAcPvUJKOt9gF
>3DM finishes their 1 year hiatus and releases a mega crack for all current Denuvo games
>Publishers realize that Denuvo didn't improve sales at all, and it only cost them money to add bloated anti-tamper with Denuvo sucking up money from each sale
>Pirates laugh all the way at the bank at idiots who thought this would change anything
You can't force pirates to convert into paying customers, they will only do so willingly. Every argument about piracy ends here, since this is ultimately something that is only inflating budgets for no payoff.
Denuvo will fall, it's a question of when, not if
>>339683554
>you must be dummy dumbo
really? flip the image and then flip the top and bottom and side bar part back, you idiot. it's a common trick newfags like you don't catch
>>339683557
>>339683554
>>339683634
not that anon, but this literally is a shop of a kotaku post, also samefag pls go
>>339683793
Google search doesn't work by using md5 data.
If there was a similar image, it would find it.
>>339683874
Which kotaku post?
Because I just took that pic.
>>339683874
>posts within 3 seconds of eachother
>samefag
you tried
I know, ask me to put the settings in a very specific combination.
>>339683910
>Because I just took that pic.
stop lying, seriously. it's not a joke anymore
>>339683994
>i cant find 10 images and splice them together
anon stop this game
>>339684119
>>339684007
You are trying too hard now.
>>339683773
>t. ass blasted pirate fag
>>339684161
im not the one photoshopping to prove that i'm allowed to pirate
>>339684165
>t. assblasted moralcuck
>>339684232
>having morals is bad
>>339684161
>you
>implying it's not more than one person
>>339684224
But you refuse to ask me anything.
You refuse to add me on Steam, you refuse to ask me to do things on Snapmap.
Why are you so afraid of being wrong?
Why are you in such deep denial?
>>339679192
Anon, don't try to logic the retard.
His babby brain is still learning to count to double digits without using his fingers.
>>339684301
So more than one person are wrong?
Nicey.
>>339684315
you asked an anon for his steam name and then called him out like it was a great sin for wanting to be anon. what point does that have to do with you stealing?
>>339679192
But there's millions who do otherwise, and for that, I thank you.
Thanks for keeping alive the franchises so I can keep pirating them.
>>339673858
>last good game that used Denuvo (MGSV) got hacked in less than a week
>>339684424
are you more than one person?
>>339673858
What companies think is going to happen
>Doom comes out
>I can't Pirate Doom
>I'll go buy Doom
What actually happens
>Doom comes out
>I'm slightly interested
>I can't pirate it
>I don't buy Doom
>Years pass and maybe I get it for 10$ at a sale
>Years pass and maybe it gets cracked and I play it
Seriously so far it's these games :
Mirror's Edge Catalyst
Total War: Warhammer
Homefront: The Revolution
DOOM
The Climb
ADR1FT
Need for Speed
Hitman
Far Cry Primal
Unravel
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Just Cause 3
Star Wars Battlefront
Anno 2205
FIFA 16
Mad Max
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Batman: Arkham Knight
Dragon Age: Inquisition
DA: I, Fifa 16 and Anno 2205 seem to be cracked as far as I can tell.
I was interested in Doom, Far Cry Primal, Just Cause 3 and Total War Warhammer
But not interested enough to give 50$ or more...
So like I said they think they're going to get money, what they're probably seeing is the same sales projections as ever with maybe a few thousand guys that did go buy it because they can't pirate.
>>339684453
No, that anon, probably you, is just refusing to do anything because he's baby-mad because someone who can afford videogames doesn't like Denuvo.
So maddy :(
Go ahead, ask me to do something in the game, something that couldn't be shopped.
>>339678036
Anon that's not totally true. I think there are people that get attached to certain companies that consistently release products they like and get a feeling of loyalty to them. Aka I see people talking about sonybronies, nintendotoddlers, etc.
>>339684545
>My opinion determines if a game is good or not
I didn't know we had a polygon reviewer posting here.
>>339684581
I agree with you, but I don't mind giving those guys $30 at a Steam sale for the pleasant surprise that is D44M. My Steam wallet is funded by CSGO so I really don't mind at all, at that price.
>>339684919
How do you make money off CS:GO anyway.
>>339684594
nah m8 because i don't give a shit. you probably own the game, that still makes you wrong. piracy is immoral and i feel nothing against companies who want to stomp it out.
>companies dont care about you
i don't care about them, they want my money, i want their games. it's a business transaction, they aren't meant to care about you.
>inb4 crying about mods
Modding is a shitty gimmick for shitty games
every game that requires a mod is shit at it's core and is asking it's players to make it better. Steam refund fixed the modding problem on steam
There is not a single game worth playing if mods are needed to enjoy it. Skyrim is shit and Doom 2 is perfect on it's own
>>339685021
But my feelings aren't related to piracy, but to the fact that it prevents modding.
>>339684594
>being this much of a hothead
holy fucking shit calm down
>>339674217
>>339674453
God damn
>>339684581
What's it like to be so poor that you can't afford to spend $50 on your hobby?
I hope your favela doesn't get too cold at night.
>>339685102
Come on, ask me.
That afraid of being wrong?
>>339685021
fucking this
/thread
>>339676950
What anime?
I Don't give a shit about pirates nor do i pirate but im glad denuvo became obsolete because of those fucking "PIRATEFAGS BTFO XDDD" Threads that keeps popping up in /v/
Finally they got BTFO
>>339684746
If there is no interest in a game no one will attempt to take enough time to hack it.
>>339685021
Sometimes, mods don't really "fix" games, just make people feel better about their idiosyncrasies.
For example: The Witcher 1 didn't allow Geralt to walk. He only had one speed: run. That's technically fine, but there's more than one scene where you have to walk with an NPC or group of NPCs somewhere while having a conversation. It completely makes the game retarded to have to do a run-stop-run-stop-run-stop thing. Sure, I can get the right speed by walking BACKWARDS but that's fucking retarded.
Solution: download a walk mod.
>>339685159
okay, why do you suck on so much cock anon? is that why you are a hothead?
>>339685394
witcher 1 was shit
>>339685109
Well in the last 30 days I got Overwatch, Stellaris, FFXIV sub, Bitcher 3 Blood and Wine and Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus PC version.
But I really have no need to prove how rich or not I am. It's that these Denuvo games don't interest me.
Total War is a great example. It used to be this fresh new series that did all the things right.
Now they've become a fucking shitfest. What I always end up doing is playing the MAP part of the game and auto resolving the battles because it takes forever to load into a battle and then it takes forever to actually battle.
THE MAIN PART OF THE GAME IS BATTLES.
Yet I end up playing it like a simplistic babies first Grand Strategy... No thanks.
Fact is theres tons of games I want to try for 2~5 hours and never touch them. Total war is one of these games.
Just Cause 3 is also one of these games.
But the fact is I'm not interested enough in them to actually spend money because I know my playtime will be sub 50 hours.
>>339685081
blame pirates then, DRM will go away when they do
>>339678564
Division has denuvo and its the most successful new IP.
Had like 300k players on steam alone, and its a uplay game so only retards bought it on steam.
The only thing Witcher 3 proves is that good games sell, drm or no drm.
>>339685394
Solution #2: Kill yourself for being an autistic ass burger.
>>339684919
I have over 300$ in Doto items but I can't bring myself to part with them in hopes I'll play the game again. Yet I haven't played it in 5 months.
>>339685638
>Division
yeah you forgot to mention that it's littered with hackers and its player count is dropping already (6000 right now)
Not a good sign
>>339685586
How can you be so naive?
>>339685424
>he wont answer because he's this much of a coward
jesus he demands you to ask him and then you do and now he's gone out of total fear
Shit games use Denuvo because they are afraid of people pirating the game and telling others it's shit. When someone has forked 60 dollarydoos for it, they are more likely to defend the game because they invested money into it
>>339685707
I'm not a trader or case opener, so I think we're making money on two completely different scales here, yours being much bigger. I made my bucks from welfare freebies, but I can afford a game with it.
>>339685638
Divison bombed harder then Tortanic.
I'm sure Ubishit made money. And I know 3 firends that bought it.
I told them during he beta don't see how shallow it is you're gonna keep doing the same shit over and over... this game has no endgame like you're used to in MMO.
They still got it. And now none of them play it. And I'm like I told you so retards.
>>339685758
>AREYOUKIDDINGME
for blaming the cause to an effect? easy because that's exactly what happened. simple DRM like steam isn't good enough to stop pirates so the made something worse. don't buy their games that have it, if you want to pretend it's this much of a deal for you
personally i don't give a fuck and think while it is retarded that im glad pirates cant crack it most times
>>339685805
DOOM
MGSV
Warhammer
>>339685638
>its the most successful new IP
Wrong
>>339685805
>DOOM is shit
objectively wrong at every corner
>>339685972
Doom is the only good Denuvo games so far anon sorry.
>>339685962
Saying that they'll get rid of Denuvo is like saying that you believe paying for PS+ is because it allows for better servers.
>>339686031
Interesting opinion.
>>339685638
Blizzard has to implement a QUEUE for buying the game ONLINE. Because their servers were getting hammered like crazy after the Open Beta.
I think Division might not be the most successful new IP Anon.
>>339685280
Calling you out, mate. I ain't seein' shit about denuvo getting cracked. The fuck you talking about?
>>339686058
sure, if you don't know how to make compare one thing to another then i imagine they do.
here in reality though if people don't buy a product because of something attached to it, companies will choose to remove it and make money
>>339685962
Steam isn't DRM, Steamworks is optional DRM that you can use when releasing on Steam exclusively, Steam allows for any DRM to be used or none at all, up to the publisher.
>>339685961
Nice memes there child
Neither swtor or division bombed
Swtor makes $100+ mill a year, the division was the most successful new ip and broke sales records
If you want games that bombed then you have battleborn or black desert
>but muh epic tortanic memes!
Doesnt change the facts
>>339686267
Pretty sure Overwatch made in 1 day what Divison made in a Week.
Post Denuvo elves
>>339686232
Thing is, they won't.
Remember the
>JUST DON'T BUY DLCS, THEY'LL GO AWAY
The same for this.
Though it'll be funny to see who Ubisoft blames for their low sales on PC after saying that they lost 90% of their sales due to piracy.
>>339686418
Yes overwatch the most successful ip now, 2nd is division.
Still you have to be a retard to say that the division bombed.
>>339686556
Destiny is the most successful IP launc
>>339686509
people buy the DLC, so your point is nonsensical and moot when if no one actually bought it, it wouldn't be here. It seems people found it to be acceptable and bought it.
>>339686678
Exactly, the masses do dumb shit that fucks them over.
Things like this are the reason this industry went to shit.
>>339685972
>>339686030
You are just proving me right by defending the bad games. No way you spent money on a bad game, right?
>>339686728
>le im the smartest guy in the room
not really, people like DLC. doesn't make them dumb at all
>>339686735
this isn't a b8 thread
go away
>>339686637
Both division and overwatch beat destiny
>>339686884
>can't think of a way to argue the point
>lets call it bait, that will show him
>>339686556
Its still a shit game and stupid people like you feed shitty devs money so they can keep making shit games
>>339686807
Yes I am.
Who the hell is the retard who buys things like the loot boxes in Overwatch?
Kids and retards.
And thanks to those ''people'' this industry is going to shit.
>>339686556
People are going to catch on you know...
Ubishit keeps churning out these unfinished, unpolished turds and packs them up as if they're jesus...
First it was Watch Dogs, 1 month after the games release the game was dead.
The in was the Divison 1 month after game release it's playerbase is well look at the link...
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
It was for weeks the most selling game on Steam...
Now people are playing more Starbound more than The Divison on Steam the number 1 PC sales platform...
>>339679361
>>Battlefront
>Not many, considering it's completely dead and it never had many players to begin with.
>>339679252
It's not really about being uncrackable though, it's about not making it worth the time to crack.
There is probably a shitton of latent unique spaghetti code and backup checks that Denuvo puts into an executable that is just an absolute bitch to deal with.
Denuvo is constantly encrypting and decrypting parts of itself right? That would make it really hard to tell what parts are Denuvo and what parts are the executable. Thats probably why we've only seen maybe a bypass and not the actual removal of Denuvo.
>>339687429
Then where are those people?
Oh, that's right, there weren't to begin with.
People on PC aren't nearly as retarded as console cucks.
>>339687342
Get ready for Watch Dogs 2 reveal at E3. It will sell millions despite the first one being literal shit
>>339674595
Game dev here with connections in the industry.
You are speaking the truth.
Also, when Chinese make a game, you either pay to the racquet or you get cracked. 20% of profits usually.
>>339687489
Anon, its Star Wars. People go insane over that franchise and will literally buy multiple copies just in case one doesn't work. I know of one case where one guy bought out an entire theater on opening night just so he could watch it alone.
but geames with denuvo got cracked?
>>339684581
>Anno 2205
Is it any good or should I just avoid it? I remember playing lots and lots of 1404 but barely touched 2077.
>>339686735
>>339686031
Different anon
But TW Warhammer is doing pretty well despite being a mostly single player focus game, with Denuvo.
It been stay consistantly around 3rd place on steam player base so far.
Regardless of whether you think the game is good or shit, it still become the highest rating and best selling total war game.
This argument do ties in with another anon in his thread talking about the quality of the game impact the most for sale, which I agree. But we still don't have the precise measure of Denuvo on game sale, since it not like we can compare the exact same game with the same condition to see whether or not Denuvo actually have a positive or negative effect on game sale.
>>339688015
It's okay... they sort of fucked it up...
Maybe the expansions will fix it.
>>339682953
I'm being told I can't do what I want with something I've paid for.
I also can't try before I buy.
Pirates tend to go on and buy what they liked.
>>339673858
It's literally not a big deal. No one has to have everything that has ever been released, it's a weird consumerist idea that doesn't even benefit the consumer.
Games have not advanced. You can look at almost any new release today and find that it is an inferior version of something from the past.
The only things today that are actually pushing boundaries are free fan made games and mods to cheap ass games like minecraft etc.
Thank you based Denuvo, our lord and swviour.
>mfw every major release this year will have Denuvo
>mfw nearly every game will have it over the next year or so
Piratekeks literally on suicide watch :^)
>>339689631
You can still do what you want with it, you bought it with Denuvo so you know what your options were. You are free to try.
You don't need to try before you buy when there is an army of screaming youtubers who will rush through the entire game the moment it hits the shelves. If thats not enough then people will be streaming the game through steam. If thats still not enough you can do a refund before 2 hours.
Nothing wrong with pirates buying. If pirates wouldn't have bought the game anyway then nothing lost so who cares, but they'll buy it anyway if they like the game.
I'm looking forward to what their next bad excuse for not selling billions of copies of shit games are.
>>339683227
and its dead on PC
http://swbstats.com/
BF3 has more players that this and its a 5 years old game ....
>>339673858
Protects only shit games like battlefront, a only multiplayer game.
