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Name a better JRPG villain.
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>>339653275
Idc about how you think his clothes are gay or not, this guy is a great villain, one corrupt by the unfair world and forced to live a life of slavery and hatred.

He's the best FF villain and the one with more depth, prove me wrong.
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>>339653371
Nice """"""""""""""villain""""""""""""""
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literally me in real life
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>>339653275
SEPHIROSU
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>>339653275
marche
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>>339653275
Ardyn Izunia

(i'm from the future)
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>>339653275
For me it's Kefka; intelligent, nihilistic, and a wiked sense of humor.
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Sepiroth is waaaaay better. stfu
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>>339653914
>dies halfway through the game
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>>339653371
This
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>>339653275
intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor?
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>>339653814
>btw faggot i made you flawed so you have a shit lifespan why haven't you sped up the people of gaia dying yet jesus christ your shit

>t..thanks garland

kuja had a hard life
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>>339653814
omg how fucking gay is he, look at his faggot cloth
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>>339653275
>edgelord clown with the "depth" of a DBZ villain

>>339653814
>Sephiroth 2: Electric Boogaloo

Why are Final Fantasy villains so terrible?
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Surprised everyone's favorite Autocrat hasn't been posted yet
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>>339654978
>Sephiroth 2: Electric Boogaloo
What? Have you even played the game? Whats your favorite villain then? Afraid to post or something?
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Do you know where your loli is?
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>>339655602
But he's a good guy
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>>339653764

This guy is the only one who comes close.
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>>339654867
This motherfucker right here.
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>>339661260
>That fucking reveal at the end
Great 3-part final boss fight, the Zero series was phenomenal.
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>>339661260
gee I never knew Zero had his own JRPG
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>>339662359
>implying anyone cares
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>Literally all he wanted to do was prevent the total and utter bullshit that happens in SMT1
Raidou's ending went so far off the rails in so many right ways
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Let's compare themes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqtOWpNAs48

vs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU
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>>339662189
>tfw Omega was just some loser hijacking Zero's original body instead of the real Zero gone maverick god of destruction like what they constantly foreshadowed in the X series
>tfw Zero never went maverick
A bit of wasted potential, but still a great boss fight
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>>339653490
Delita did nothing wrong

delete this please
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>>339653275
>tfw listening to his theme right now
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>>339654429
>>/r/eddit
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>>339663831
not him, but lurk more
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>>339653490

Delita wasn't a villain, though.
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>>339663831
>if its funny and i dont know it,it must be ribbit!!!
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>>339663831
(You) forgot another > you memer
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>>339654227
[insert FF6 fanboy comment taking you seriously and whining about how FF7 fanboys constantly shit on FF6 despite it being so obvious you're joking here]
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>>339662884
Funny how a game that is much worse than both of them had a better OST than both of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVkcmx2l3WA
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>>339653275
This is a japanese tree
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>>339662359
Well there was Command Mission
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>>339665980
^^ this is an anon who has become my nigga
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>>339665980

I guess that is why he is so pissed off. I'd be mad too if I was born a tree. Just standing there, unable to move while animals and insects make homes in me.
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>>339653275
>Not posting best clown
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>>339665858
That said...Sephiroth is really a better villain. Kefka was kind of an annoying cunt, tbqh. Only thing he had over Sephiroth was his final bossfight.

Sephiroth had a far more threatening presence and a pretty chilling theme song; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQrmuBW3Tok
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My mom she tossed all my jrpgs in the Sin Bin because they had too much magic and girls.
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>>339667397
>Sin Bin
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>>339667397
>girls

What? I thought Christians were AGAINST homosexuality?
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>>339662884
>>339665975
Dancing Mad is the best final boss theme in the history of Final Fantasy, it's not even up for debate
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>>339653814
I don't know, I prefer Kefka just being psycho from being an early magic infusion experiment to Kuja being pretty Psycho but suddenly wanting to kill all creation because he wouldn't live to see the end of the universe.

Garland is way better than Gestal though.
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This guy
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>>339667165
didn't younger Cloud get impaled and lifted up by him, only for Cloud to then multiply his weight, touch the floor, lift him up with the sword and toss him?

That shit was retarded.
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>>339668353
That's a good joke, the best final fantasy end boss theme clearly was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-IJV93FQZc
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>>339668794
One of my favorite character designs for certain
It's a pity that the PS1 models made his hat look like a gigantic forehead though.
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>>339653814
>he
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>>339653275
Friendly reminder that I've played more JRPG's than everybody in this thread.

Pic related is the most well written villain of all time.

>inb4 "muh crystals agnes"
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>>339653275
Egil.
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>>339669579
>muh crystals agnes
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>>339653814
I didn't like kuja. None of the ff villains are all that deep, but kuja was particularly just a "wants to commit genocide, rule the world, and kill his boss" villain. he was just sort of a douche.

Sephiroth at least did his tropes well. And I think the guy from ff2 was a way better kuja than kuja was.

But we all know who the real big dick G of ff villains is.
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>>339669579
Airy awakens my dick.
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>>339669579

Why would you lie about that helpful and kind fairy?
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>>339653275
This fabulous bastard right here.
>Already had much of the world under his rule in the beginning of the game, but unleashed the demons from hell anyway
>Orchestrated mass genocide
>Despite being killed, he split his personality in two, simultaneously took over heaven and hell, and ruled all of existence.

Who could possibly top this guy?
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>>339670250
>he split his personality in two, simultaneously took over heaven and hell, and ruled all of existence.
What I like is that I'm pretty sure it really wasn't intentional. The Emperor did have a good side who went to heaven, but his good side was also a bastard
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>>339669004
No, Cloud impaled him from behind and pushed him into the lifestream
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>>339669579
>>339670375

This.
Anne in Bravely Second just didn't compare to the mastermind that is Airy.
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>>339653275
>Villain

He did nothing wrong though.
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>>339653275
Huh? Cicero isn't a JRPG villian...
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>>339670250
That's a cool alt costume. Is it from eyes of heaven?
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His plans are fun to foil, and he's pretty badass
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>>339670250
Garland's design is better, but the Emperor is a good pick
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>>339670375
>It's MEEEEEEE AUSTIN! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!
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>>339667684
P sure it's just sexuality in general
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>>339655602

Literally did nothing wrong.
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>>339669579
Sure thing kiddo
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>>339670250
that's just seems like alot of pulling Rank.
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>>339670567
>>339670567

just because she's not as subtle about it doesn't mean she's not great. plus i dig the leotard. she did dupe the vestaling into awakening the crystals
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>>339669579
My fucking nigga.
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>>339670960
Ff1 "time loop" is fucking stupid. You don't reincarnate Garland, you simply just went back in time before your birth to die.
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>Thread is almost exclusively Square Enix villains

Not that I'm complaining or nothing. Square seems to make top tier villains.

They clearly haven't lost their touch either since they made Airy.
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>>339662884
Kefka's theme is very playful and subtle. It really sells both his mischievous escapades and his murderous ambitions. The opening symbolizes his plotting of the poisoning of Doma. The drums represent the soldiers marching to the castle. Finally, achieving an underhanded victory when the piano organs come in, which is also used as his laugh in the game. Truly enthralling stuff out of Uematsu.
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>>339671590
>You don't reincarnate Garland
He kinda does, thanks to the cycles
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>>339665975
I was actually gonna post this. FF8 was a mediocre game, but that soundtrack was god tier.
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>>339672008
laguna's battle theme was great.
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>>339671823
>piano organs
There's no organs in the piece
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>>339671472
Anne is okay too, but her little sister will always be the best.
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>>339654890
Egil literally did nothing wrong
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>>339653275
literally anyone else. sephiroth was 1 dimensional.
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>>339671948
He'll be born after he dies just because his death took place in a time travel venture. Its not like Chao's soul gets funneled into Baby Garland.
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>>339670568
>poisons an enemy nation after being told not to
>kills leo for calling him out in being a douche
>disrupts the warring triad
>reshapes the world in his image
>shoots nipple lasers at those who defied him
"""nothing""""
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>>339653275
>>339653371
>>339669579
My niggas
These are the best villians in all JRPGs.
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>>339672428

butterfly > moth
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>>339672572
Oh that, it's indeed kind of obtuse but since time travel is too convoluted I don't pay too much attention to it. I was talking about the whole Dissidia cycles thing
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>>339662979
Well, he did go Maverick that one time he first met Sigma,
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>>339672976
No_
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>>339673268

por que no los dos?
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>>339670891
I'm currently at chapter 5, exploring Lohgerin Castle. Looking forward to fighting all the Comrades.
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>>339654579
>posting the villain from the ONE game in the franchise that isn't an RPG
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>>339662884
Nice "comparison" faggot, you didn't even use Dancing Mad.
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>>339669579
>shitty overrated rpg with mediocre writting
> still better Villain tham any FF one
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>>339662884

compare Kefka's Tower vs Judgment Day. thats a better comparison
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Is this correct then or what?
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>>339673658
Pretty sure sticker shit and color shit Don't qualify As rpgs either
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Nobody has posted Braev? Biggest cunt in the world who could have prevented a laundry list of atrocities with a five minute conversation.
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>>339671694
>>They clearly haven't lost their touch either since they made Airy.
they haven't

i still wanna fuck that walking semen sock
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>>339653275

This thread should have been called "Name a more overrated JRPG villain"
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>>339665975

These feels of time kompression. One Winged Angel and Dancing Mad don't have sheeet on this. But props to Dancing Mad for the four handed piano version.
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>>339672976
m8 i'll fite u right now
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>>339674196
>Biggest cunt in the world who could have prevented a laundry list of atrocities with a five minute conversation.

>How to tell when somebody isn't paying attention to the game - the post

Airy would have just transformed and ended them all if he did that. In fact, in other time lines it's implied that that exact thing has already happened.

If you were paying attention, you'd know the only reason you were able to win when you did was purely because a celestial (you) entered Tiz.

Jesus christ, I'm tired of explaining such a simple thing that people seem to miss all the damn time.
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>>339674181
>rpg
>role playing game
>yfw every game that doesn't have you put in your name is an rpg
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>>339662884
>Kefka's normal theme
>against OWA
Kefka's theme is good, but it can't hold a candle to One-Winged Angel because it is still only a character theme. For real comparison:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbXVNKtmWnc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU

Kefka is autistic according to Ultimania and Sephiroth's motives for going insane in FF7 without any Crisis Core info make him look like an edgy teenager with an Oedipus complex. They both kinda suck

Pic related for best villain. Created an actually memorable, suprising and impact moment. Well, either him or Bishop Ladja.

Best non-SE villain would be this guy
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>>339653814
I think this guy sucked my dick at a gay club once
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>>339668353
True patrician. That shit goes through Kefka's phases perfectly.
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>>339667165
Sephiroth really isn't really a good villain when you think about it though.
>Loses to a literal who C Class SOLDIER the first time they meet.
>He's supposed to be the strongest being in existence.
>Loses to him again the second time at full power.
I'm willing to let the second time past, but the first time is inexcusable.
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>>339674871
Kuja's design is way too over the top. He looks like something out of drawn together or matt hazard. I.E. a westerner designed him to make fun of japanese character design.
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>>339674827
Fuck, meant to post this majestic motherfucker as best FF villain
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>>339669579
I don't think I would have enjoyed BD anywhere near as much as I did without Airy.
She truly is a miracle of the universe. And an evil cunt.
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>>339653275
trick question OP. it can't be done.

johan liebert if he was in a video game I guess.....but hes not....
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>>339675064
>Void = Space
This image triggers my autism
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>>339653814
>Kuja sees Zidane at the end of disc 2
>acts like he legitimately doesn't know him
>disc 4
>ZIDANE, MY BROTHER WHO I ATTEMPTED TO KILL OUT OF JEALOUSY, I HATE YOU AND WILL PROVE I AM THE BETTER ANGEL OF DEATH

FFIX is not as good a game as its fanbase claims.
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>>339675229
Didn't he recognize him after beatrix beats them in burmecia?
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>>339662979
Omega was a fake Zero? Omega was the real Zero and the one you played was a fake.
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>>339667130

he posted kefka so youre wrong.
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>>339674692
How the fuck is he a villain?
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>>339675574
Omega had the original body but Zero was still Zero, just in a different shell
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I heard that he's different in the Japanese version. How remarkably different is his personality?
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>saw his brother die
>just trying to protect his nephew from dying the same way
>doesn't think it's right that one good person has to die for other ungrateful terrible shits can live
>ultimately gives his own life as sacrifice so that MC doesn't have to

Heiss was Literal best villain, although he wasn't really a villain at all.
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>>339653275
Literally the best JRPG villain. Prove me wrong.
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>>339675780
Damn, just came into this thread and didn't even bother scrolling down because no one posts him anyway and here's an anon with god tier taste.
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>>339676042
>Heissmind
Radiant Historia was the shit, but damn, son
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>>339653275
>meme clown man

Kefka a shit.
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>>339668794
Lynx is just a plot movement device though.

Almost literally, if you look up the story.

>Dad gets stuck in storm and washes up in mysterious place.
>Dad uses mysterious object to heal dying son and causes a system lockdown.
>Super-sentient computer is angered by this and corrupts Serge's Dad into a puppet to kill his son and release lockdown.

The whole "panther demon" thing is probably the most asinine part of Chrono Cross's story and caused unnecessary confusion. Literal random monster that has no plot integrity attacks Serge as a kid, but it had to be "a panther demon with deadly poison" that looks like a normal-ass fucking panther.

Harle wasn't an alternate-dimension Kid either, but technically a clone.
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>>339676270
but he le destroyed le world and he's sometimes funny lol. hes also le insane which is so cool xD
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>>339674827
>pic related

CAN FUCKING DIE. I swear to God Capcom you can die too for not letting us kill that faggot. He literally disappears from the game with no chance of resolve.

That guy is the only reason I even remember BF4 as a game, cause the rest of it was easily forgettable.
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>>339675780
>>339676042
Holy shit, same pic and everything

Good job bro. Hail Heiss.
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>>339675643
Maybe he's referring to some NPC in the late game

>Monsters can talk because they are actually humans turned by Satan's powers
>DQ Hero killed a tons of them and even making them into pets
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pontiff sulyvahn

his goals are pretty relatable. I'd probably do the same if I was him.
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>>339675358
If that is when him and Queen Brahe were discussing the weapons shipments, then no. Zidane and the others attack and they get easily dispatched. Then Kuja begins to walk out and calls them something along the lines of pathetic flies, but never even acknowledges that Zidane is there or who he is.
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>>339675780
>>339676042
He's a faggot, because he pretty much let the system continue that he was trying to stop. Also, he could have easily have avoided all this shit if he had not given the white book to Stocke but nooo he had to give to him for some retarded reason such as muh lonliness.

Also, this game sucked through out the entire game it makes it out that relying on the mana was bad and that they must find another way, but in the end Stocke had to fall upon the very thing sucking the mana in the first place. Also the time travel gimmick sucks ass since Chrono Trigger did it better and had better characters. I mean, really who the fuck used that fat ass golem that emos out because you kill his girlfriend?
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Kefka isn't even the best villain of his franchise
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>>339653371
I would be pissed you spoiled this for me, but Geoff the Hero already did with that video he did a while back.
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>>339675186
It's presented as space at the end of FFV. Or at least, that is what is seems like.

why haven't more FFs used the Void as a concept? It is this outer-dimensional force that mindlessly consumes. That is pretty fucking cool.
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>>339662261
Is that YHVH??
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>>339677712
Well at least three final bosses of the franchise are incarnations of the Void in some form, Cloud of Darkness, Neto ExDeath and Necron.
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>>339653275
I can't. But JRPG villains are a pretty low bar to leap over anyway.
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>>339675663
How the fuck do you transfer Zero to another Zero? It would make sense for Omega to be the real Zero accepting his Maverick destiny while Zero is the wannabe that is like "they call me a hero, I must become a hero to them"
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>>339677712
You should play FFXIV. The void is a huge plot through out the game. Also XI touches on it in the last add on.
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>>339678458
Just transplant original Zero's memory chips into a new body and download Omega's data in original Zero's body. They're oversized electronics after all.
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>>339653275
Why does Ronald McDonald look so emo?
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>>339677468
I could have sworn he said something like "another filthy rat" to freya and then sees zidane and says "this could be a problem" or something like that. I just remember him acknowledging his brother in some way. been several years though.
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>>339677495
>He's a faggot, because he pretty much let the system continue that he was trying to stop
That's what makes his sacrifice meaningful. He didn't just want to stop the ritual because he thought it was wrong, but also because he genuinely cared about Stocke. His anger about the injustice of the system was outweighed by his love for his nephew, which is why he gave his life for a world he despised. As he saw it, Stocke was the only hope the world had left and he would rather give his own life so Stocke could live than let Stocke kill himself and stay alive in a world he had given up hope on.
>he had to give to him for some retarded reason such as muh lonliness
How is that a retarded reason? Humans don't always act rationally and Heiss's entire motivation is emotional in nature. He wanted Stocke to know how he felt and probably didn't want to lie to the only person he cared about for the rest of his life. Heiss is a far more interesting character than anyone in Chrono Trigger.
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>>339678603
Why would you do that? If the reasoning is to eliminate the Zero factor from man killing Zero, why go through the trouble of putting him into a more than suboptimal body? It also doesn't make sense how Omega has a Z Sabre when Elf X gave copy Zero the "original" but I digress...
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>>339669046
he didn't deserve to die
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>>339679198
No, he's not interesting because everything he did was moot in the end.

GUIZ I'M GOING TO KILL MY BROTHER SO I CAN END THIS CRAZY CYCLE OF SACRIFICE SO THAT LIFE DOESN'T KEEP BEING DEVALUED BECAUSE LIFE GETS DEVALUED IF YOU KNOW THAT CAPTAIN SAVE A HOLE WILL ALWAYS SAVE YOU LIKE WHAT SOCIALISM DOES TURNING PEOPLE INTO LAZY SHITTERS DEPENDING ON THE GOVERNMENT.

BUT I'M GOING TO SAY FUCK ALL THAT BECAUSE OF MUH FEELINGS TO MY NEPHEW WHO I NEVER TOLD WHAT HAPPENED UNTIL HE BECAME AN ADULT FOR NO FUCKING REASON.
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>>339669835
>not Shulk
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>>339679734
Typing shit in caps and oversimplifying it does not make it sound more stupid: it just makes you look retarded instead.
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>>339679920
k
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>>339680206
DONT YOU MEAN K LOOK AT ME IM SO SMART BECAUSE I DO THIS
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>>339679689
If only his motive for getting the monado wasn't so damn autistic.

Anything would've been better
>You've become to dependent on the monado Dunban
>They're after the monado, so let's give them what they want
>I don't give two shits about the monado, I just want you all dead so this war can end
>The monado is secretly a fucking sentient being and it must be destroyed

Would've all been better than
>I wanted to be the hero!
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>>339679014
I think he acknowledges everyone when he says that. The game isn't clear. But even then, there should have been some build up in that scene. I've argued Tomino-speak subtext in Zeta and CCA, but saying Kuja was keeping his cool during the scene, when later in the game he flies of the handel when Garland mentions Zidane being the apex Genome and professes his undying hatred for Zidane(and the world). Plus he was aware of Zidane's power and could have told Brahe "Ey yo uggo, kill this motherfucker before he royally fucks your dusty fat pussy."
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>>339674614

It also helped that Agnes wasn't around for Airy to use in worlds past the first, or she probably would have just killed the party then.
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>>339665980
this is a japanese tree's waifu
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>>339676042
Should I replay this?
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>>339681525
Cloud of Darkness is cute! CUTE!
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>>339681525
i want to pinch those green tiddies
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>>339679764
Zansa was lame. If anything Dickson.
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>tfw no sequel
>you will never make him pay for what he did to your family or the paladin lanselot
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>>339653275
A good villain is one you know is right.
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>>339654343
yet his influence carries the game to its end.
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Galcian
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>>339653275
Pure fucking style.
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>>339683223
>Let me explain how I survived
>I don't care

Fuck you Nomura you fucking hack.
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>>339653275
He was so bad I didn't even finish the game because of him.
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>>339684223
Nomura is a great guy :)
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