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>Used point down gesture after me and 2 nice phantoms raped some invader
>Got a hate message telling me about how much faggot I am for using gesture in this situation
Why people like this even invade?
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Well, if you have two invaders and gesture like you've achieved something in a 3v1, you are a faggot. Not as big a faggot to message someone because you're butthurt, but still a faggot.
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>>339588847
Two phantoms*
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I wouldn't take the Souls PVP community too seriously, just what you want as long as you're having fun. DaS1 is my favourite game period, but the PVPers are full of shit and constantly invent new rules to make fights "honourable"
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>>339588847
>invade someone's game trying to be a shitter and ruin their fun
>they ruin your fun
>get triggered

Invader babbies with hurt feelings
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>>339589123
Yes? Someone having hurt feelings doesn't mean the OP isn't acting like a faggot in the scenario. What's your point?
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>>339588716
If he wanted "pure" pvp he would be fighting other people who want to pvp, not invading.
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>>339588716
becacause they want to have a "fair" fight, although by design any souls game doesnt let u have one.
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>duel etiquette
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>>339589227
As I said, invaders are trying to ruin someone else's fun and then get all triggered when someone ruins theirs.

That is the behaviour of a faggot through and through.
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I fucking hate that swamp
>go right
>bloodborne monsters and a black knight
>go left
>aborigines with didgeridoos
>water way
>giant enemy crab and npc invader
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If somebody plays like a faggot in a summoned duel/fightclub, that's one thing, but complaining about the tactics used by people you invade is autistic. They aren't there for a fair pvp experience, they're there to play through the level, and you made yourself an obstacle.
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>>339589227
>doesnt mean OP isn't acting like a faggot in the scenario

in the scenerio of souls games?
first of all it's an arpg, his character can be an asshole and use all tricky shit and mocking gestures, or a str/fth paladin with honor.
you know, like any other RPG
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>>339589402
Not saying it isn't. But like I said, that doesn't mean OP isn't also a faggot in this scenario.
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>get to halfway fortress
>put down a sign
>summoned by a dude
>haha, time for speedrun strats
>gun it through the swamp
>get invaded
>run past the two assholes guarding farron entrance
>down the ladder
>the two npcs and the invader fall down the hole
All in a days work
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>>339589564
>implying anybody actually roleplays in these games and actions towards other players are due to roleplaying

Anon, please.
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>>339589402
Why would he be? Shit talking has and always will be an integral element to competition. Taunting is the easiest way to do that in souls games without messaging the other player. The invader came to fuck his shit up, but instead had his shit fucked up. Doesn't mean he's a faggot because he taunted. Invaders should know by now that you're likely going to get ganked, getting mad over it is just silly.
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>raped the host and all his phantoms
>he disconnects then sends me an invite to degenerative groups like "git gud"
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There is no gesture you can use that won't trigger someone somehow. Lots of people hate losing, and it's easy to try finding a petty reason to justify your anger rather than admitting you didn't like losing. So it becomes HOW DARE HE DO X no matter how niche a reason or how far one has to reach to fill in what X is.

Hell, you could probably stand around doing nothing after a kill and someone will be angry about it.
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>>339590164
Shouldn't you get 2 tongues for the blue spirit?
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>>339590336
Forked tongue gives two tongues when used.
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>>339590164
>Not having a macro for ALT+F4 on your mouse.

you really need to learn the perfect meta for souls game, you pretty much have god mode.
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>>339588716
The biggest mistake the Dark Souls community ever made, was ever listening to invaders about anything.
>wahhh! Dark swords!
>wahhh! R1 spam!
>wahhh! Gang squads!
>wahhh! Chugging!
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Dark Souls 3 was fun for a month or so. I've moved on to Overwatch now though.
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>>339590658
The game is still somewhat young.

Going from what I saw in the move from 1 to 2, people are mostly just jarred by the difference in mechanics, and how the game plays can change a shocking amount just by kicking around a few numbers in the background. From will continue to patch things, but people will also get used to the new normal eventually.
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Who tailbone spear here? The number of gank squads I've blown off ledges is criminal. Try it out, but keep it on the dl.
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>>339590169
I've gotten hate mail at the pontiff porch for not bowing after duels since I just turn around and go spam signs for another fight. Fascinating how mad people get over the smallest things.
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>>339591362
My awareness people can see me for quite some time after they vanish, friendly phantoms included, is why I tend to behave myself shortly after they aren't visible. It's not like I particularly care what they think, but 5 extra seconds can prevent having to deal with mouth breathers.

I tend to pick something neutral and confusing to use in context like curl up.
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>>339591362
>the priestess reading Braille porn

Lmao
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>>339590967
DAT ASS
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>>339588716
>play most of the game in lv20
>find top end game gear
>follow op build found on reddit
>invade a guy
>knight default set
>obvious noob
>victory is mine
>I use my top op build gear to attack him
>he rolls and hit me until I die
no honor, pvp is dead, fucking shit game
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>>339592691
>I use my top op build gear to attack him
>find top end game gear
Doubt
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>>339588716
>some asshat invades me
>gets his shit absolutely stomped on by a crab
>gesture to this fuckwad
I hope he got mad. Fucking fedora wearing faggot.
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>mfw I use red sign and get fair 1v1 with no estus for 20 matches in a row
>have lots of fun without ruining someone else's game

Get fucked invaders.
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>>339596228
Or you could have fun invading instead
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>>339591362
When they message you just tell them you didn't bow because they were shit.
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>invade as a mad phantom at Irrithyl
>Aldrich invader invades too
>start the session bullying the host at first
>Aldrich fag starts acting like a purple and starts attacking me instead for no reason
>get caught in the crossfire from this faggot wannabe mad phantom and dark sword host and die

????????????
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>>339596648
I see the dumbest shits invading sometimes.
Like a red that sees me fighting a gank of 4 people and starts attacking me too for some reason. And then I escaped and he got his ass train raped by the gankers.
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I can't be the only one who likes to waste the invader's time, am I?

>pump endurance
>equip grass crest shield, cloranthy ring and carthus bloodring
>silly armor as a bonus

Then I basically just do nothing but let the invader chase me, dodging his attacks every time. In the rare event I do get hit, I simply estus back to full health then resume dodging. This usually causes them to blackcrystal out of frustration.
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>>339589123
>cheesing the game in 3 people
>1 person invades
>this ruins the host's fun

hugbox extraordinaire, poor, poor host
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>>339596648
maybe he wanted the shackle?
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Why do hosts love to disconnect so much? I mean holy shit apparently so many people have connection "issues" whenever I invade them and i kill their phantoms.
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>Invade as a naked berzerker and murder the host along with his faggot, R1-spamming phantoms

THE HALLS OF VALHALLA AWAIT ME!
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>>339593046
DESU The most top end game gear is literally right at start of high wall.
Raw Stone
Astora Straight Sword.

Till +5/6 Anyways.
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>>339588716
I know you never got a hate message. I know this was your first kill and you wanted to show off the webm.
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>Invade as a Purple
>Host only hast a single phantom with them
>Wait, I can kill just ONE phantom...
>Dash in and WHAM WHAM WHAM
>Host's phantom dead within 20 seconds of invading
>Host stares at me as I wave and fade away

Just struck me as intensely funny. I barely inconvenienced the host and still got my shackle.
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>>339597736
MY BROTHER, I'M DOING THE SAME.
Including the Zwei.

>>339597830
Same guy, NewFag, didn't knew t b h = desu.
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This whole thing reminds of of Rogues in early WoW bitching about any possible thing that would work against them in their ganking ways in pvp.
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>acting like some hotshit while having 2 phantoms to babysit you
To be fair, he's right in calling you out on playing easy mode.
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>Catacombs
>Dried Finger
>Lay Down gesture inside wolnirs doors
>Equip way of blue
>Enjoy reds and purps not be able to touch me
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>>339596484
>messaging back

I'm not in high school. What a waste of time.
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>>339598170
Hey, if they can kill the blue they get double rewards, and the blue gets summoned at fucking all.

Everyone wins.
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>>339595387
Here's your 16-year-old player base, everybody.
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>>339588716
That blue phantom is goddamn retard, why would you do the abyss 3 hit combo if you didn't land any of the other hits?
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>>339589123
>dying in a 1v1 ruins the host's fun

Maybe you shouldn't play Souls games anymore.
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>>339592691
>use reddit meme build

that's where you fugged up fag
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>>339598336
That's the point, I usually clean out the enemies beforehand as well so reds and purps cant use them for cover.
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People who get asspained over invaders 'WANTING TO RUIN SOMEONE'S FUN' make me laugh.

It's one of the necessary risks of being human / embered in Dark Souls. If you don't want to be invaded, no one says you need the co-op help.

Fuck, I love invasions, if only because they usually happen when I'm right next to a bonfire going to go into a friend's world where he pops dried finger and we kill invaders.
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>>339592691
>using meme builds
>ever
If it is so powerful why do you have to be lvl20 for it to work you retard?
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>mfw there's no point in invading settlement before newgame+ because everyone drops themselfes end game shit
>Invade SL20~ to collect shackles
>Get one-shot by crystal soul masses
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I honestly don't get how 3v1 can be fun

Honestly, you know you're going to win, so there's no challenge. If there's no challenge in making someone mad, how is it satisfying? I get that it means you get to fuck around online with your pals, but how is that any fun when you just sit in one spot doing the same thing over and over

What's the point
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>>339598797
>ever getting hit by magic of any sort
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>>339597137
I like to do the reverse, there's no feeling like making host + 3 phantoms run after me looking like complete idiots unable to hit me for the longest time.
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>>339589106
>dont chug estus
>wait until opponent is ready
Is this too complex for you?
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>>339588716
>host literally mashes RB until he's out of stamina

nice
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>>339598797
so true
>a host and his phantom spams the lighting from nameless king spear
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>>339598895
You aren't ALWAYS assured of victory, you're against three people, one of them might land a couple of lucky blows and take you out.

In any case, why are you doing something you're not finding fun? Go red sign for fight clubs if you don't want things to be unfair and unpredictable.
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>get invavded before i fight NK
>fag with estoc
>dodge his first R1 spam
>once he thinks im just gonna dodge all day i hit him with a roll-R2-R1-R1 combo with my +10 UGS
>kills him in 3 hits
>mfw
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>Dark Souls pvp was Better than Dark Souls 3 pvp
Wow, We've gone from backstab fishing to parry fishing. It really is advanced and complex now.
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>>339588847
t. buttsmashed invader
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>>339590164
Why are summoners all such fucking degenerates?
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>>339598895
From the reverse perspective, managing to win a 3v1 as an invader feels fantastic. I can make it happen maybe 1 out of 10 tries but even when I lose, taking down a phantom or two before getting r1'd to death is fine.
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>>339589402
I remember when invaders were thought of as fun heart pounding interruptions instead of 'they are trying to RUIN my FUN!!!"
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>>339599376
>things that were never a thing, the thought
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>>339599376
You remember wrong. It only was like this near DaS2 release when DaS1 PvP was dead so if you actually got invaded twice per playthrough you were lucky. Thats where people liked getting invaded.
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am i dick if use patches squat after killing someone?
i mean it can't be worse than someone who points down after their gank squad kills you
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>>339599086
I don't think you understand what I'm saying

I'm asking gankers how they can find 3v1 fun, not how invaders can find it fun
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>someone invades me
>i backsteb them and parry them
>they send me hate message telling I suck and how I can't beat him in fair fight
>invade him and reck his shit without parry/backstab
>he messages that he wasn't ready and was busy with phone
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>>339598895
well, it's not like the hugboxes really want to be invaded
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>>339596648
I'm beginning to wonder, does the human ring change your title from aldritch faithful to host of embers? Because whenever I get summoned the red phantoms chase after me because I'm not glowing purple.
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>>339599520
you're better than the faggots who applaud in a circle, i like people who squat personally because they remind me of cyka blyats
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>>339599497
>>339599470
Low level invasions were fun shit and people who used armor breaking weapons and soul magic were at least funny. Then the PvP community grew and grew.
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>>339599376
Early DS3 pvp was more fun
>Get invaded now
>Expect a good fight in this 1v1 scenario
>He either waits around enemies and gestures or does nothing but fish for parries
>If its the latter he either gets smashed because he's terrible at parrying or he gets the parry and instantly kills me
It was kinda nice in 2, Then most phantoms wouldnt use enemies to their advantages, 8/10 when i was invaded in 2 they waited until i cleared out the enemies for a good area and we fought, Shit was so good.
>inb4 no fair game with invasions needed
I get that, But if i'm by myself cant an invader show some courtesy and wait for JUST a second?
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>>339599515
Same guy. I fucked up with copy paste. I was writing a long ass quoted story.

>Invade at Sl20, Settlement.
>See 2 GoldenGoi with MLGS and DKGA
>MLGS Guy spams spells, while DKGA chases me all across stage.
>MLGS dies to AI, while DKGA dies to my sword.
>Host summons them again.
>Not at bonfire.
>Somehow manage to take DKGA guy again as I tickle his health.
>Summoned again.
>Time to Blackcrystal.

Why isn't there HP/Stamina hell everything Reduction if you summon someone with Password? Bloodborne had this.
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>>339599520
you're a slav, ya cheeky breeky
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>>339599515
Why has parry spamming become so prominent in a game where it's now harder to parry with a normal shield? I bet it's because now everyone and their mom uploads leet DS3 noscope vids and people are trying to do the same
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>>339599592
Playing the game with two friends is more fun than playing the game with one, that's my reasoning.

As for why people are making gank squads, they find fucking with you fun, deal with it, or don't.
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In dark souls 1 I was wearing the one ring given by the cat and invaded someones world and Idk shit about invading but there was 2 other blue phantoms there already attacking the guy but one was spamming spells that didn't do anything and the other would chase after him as he would run up and hit the sorcerer in a constant chase so I get in hitting range as the sorcerer died then he turns around and hits the guy chasing him who's outta stamina for being dumb I use a big pyromacy attack but he crits the asshole as I'm doing that then we fight for 5 minutes of off and on attacks and guarding I lost in the end but It was a close battle I'm just surprised at the stupidity of the 2 guys before me
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>>339599376
I still feel that way in DS3. Not like I care about the souls or ember but getting invaded in the middle of a new area gets my blood pumping. Had a few invaders seem genuinely surprised they weren't being ganked.

Guy killed me in the archives while I had 2 mil souls on me and spammed "I'm sorry" and sent me a message apologizing. Must have been Canadian.
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>>339599638
I think it does. I invaded a guy and started attacking a dude cause it said host of embers, then realized halfway through it wasn't the host
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>>339599694
Oh yeah, I loved gold-hemmed rusfags with cursed daggers or havelmoms in the parish. Good times, good times.
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>>339599881
My first time being invaded in the Parish was just another dude in starting class armor. No tricks, no advantage, just two motherfuckers who just started out going at it. It was great.
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>>339599876
http://www.skillsyouneed.com/write/punctuation1.html
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>"Odds were always stacked against the invader"

Where did that meme come from? Why are so many butthurt reds saying this? You were invading someone who has no idea about the lay of the land, probably has a sub optimal build compared to your PvP build, enemies are your allies and nothing is at stake for you while the host can lose progress.

I have absolutely no compassion for the fucking invader community who is now butthurt that they might be at a disadvantage.
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>>339599929
You realize I'm talking about Demon's Souls?
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>>339597163
>invader has entire set of enemies in the level to help him
>complains when he dies to host and phantoms
git gud and use the level and ai enemies to your advantage or just don't invade maybe
you know they added a red sign stone for dueling
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>>339600071
No I don't, so fuck off.
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>>339600085
>What is even Seed of Giants

but yeah Red Sign Duels are fun. More so if you're in Golden Covenant. Half the time people summon me are casuls who think I'm there to help them.
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>>339600015
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Grammar+Nazi
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>>339600138
I am sorry you embarrassed yourself anon, it happens to everyone.
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>>339599701
As an invader I never hide behind enemies. Shit's boring. I won't roll away to heal if the host hasn't yet, either. I'm hyper aggressive.
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>>339600071
I miss Demon's Souls maymays.
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>>339600227
Yeah, yeah, let's all move on.
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>>339600071
>All those hp generation builds that poked you and fled constantly
>Second chance in general
>FUCKING STORM KINGS SWORD OUTSIDE THE STORM KING ARENA
>Scraping spear in general
>Penetrators wicked sword was god awful compared to normal broadsword
>Plauge dagger
There was so much fun and stupid shit in demon souls i almost forgot all about it.
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>>339600201
yeah seed of a tree of giants was a bit of a fuck you to invaders by fromsoft but the point still stands that if you are going to complain about honor in random invasions then you shouldn't be invading
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>>339600085
>they refuse to advance through the level and just stay near the bonfire summoning more people as you kill them
>seed of giants doesn't exist

I've invaded about 80 times, at least 50 of them were 3man groups with the host running away whenever I killed any of them to summon more, and as I pursued them, 5~10 hubox hosts alt+f4d

Do not try to defend little pussies, and do not defend yourself if you're a little pussy
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>>339600335
I haven't tried Storm King in PvP in DaS3, does it still knock down like a cunt?
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>>339600432
Sadly no, It's just a god awful greatsword.
And the wind attack hits for like 85 damage tops
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>>339600432
*storm ruler
it's early I'm tired
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>>339600210
I'm a grammar nazi for suggesting you use any sort of punctuation or formatting to make your post readable?

lol, get bent kid, no one is bothering to read your post, learn to write faggot.
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>>339600381
I'm not defending myself I have played well over 1000 hours of the souls games including pvp time
I hate it when hosts sit at the bonfire and summon instead of just fighting
But the same can be said for invaders who just run to enemies when you try to 1v1 them as well
But again, if you want to complain about honor don't invade, use the soapstone
it's that simple
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>>339588716
Because you're a fucking pussy who can't 1v1 me .

All you faggots do is gank so now I hide and take you pussies out while you're distracted by enemies.

Webm related. I fucking hate you pussies so much for ganking
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>>339600527
Anon you forgot to capitalize lol
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>>339600210
>>339599876

M8 srsly, at least learn commas ffs.
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>>339600618
>legion etiquette
Every time
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I had a dream the shrug gesture was back in and just very hidden. But I woke up.
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>>339600618
Again if you are invading with red eye orbs then you can't complain about gankers

Like seriously if you want 1v1 duels you need to find a fight club or use the soapstone etc.
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>>339600640
Lol, looks weird when you do that, LOL.

Grammer is just an agreement of rules to make reading easier anyway, using it to score internets on the web is seriously lame.
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>>339600618
>all that salt
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>>339600712
it's actually appropriate in ganks since the legion probably was just a massive gank squad
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>>339600731
I can't wake up from how terrible pvp is now
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>>339600618
that happened to me too

at least i rolled out and killed one of their butt buddies
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>>339600585
>But the same can be said for invaders who just run to enemies when you try to 1v1 them as well

yeah, I found those rare things like twice during my playthrough of DaS3, the rest of them fought to death

>But again, if you want to complain about honor don't invade, use the soapstone

I'm calling them pussies, I'll keep invading and succeeding, it annoys me but at the same time the same people who do this shit are either complete shit at the game, and the majority of them are, in which case I don't have much of a problem downing them, or they're doing something amusing (like the one time a guy pulled out a greashield which I forgot the name, Yhorm's? or something, and blocked me in a tight spot while the others started to flail at me with their fists), which is usually even more fun than regular PVP

I'll keep calling pathetic people pathetic
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>got invaded by a purple and a watchdog in the crucifixion woods
>squat down by one of the trees
>20 minutes latter they still haven't found me
Purple faggot even stopped to look around literally right in front of me and I wasn't even that well hidden. How is it possible to be so fucking blind?
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>>339600886
>sit down on that ledge you can drop down from at Halfway Fortress
>5 minutes later see the invaders health bar, because they went all the way to the poison swamp and got poisoned
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>invade after Pontiff
>ALWAYS fight clubs
>hawk ring, obscuring ring, Hunter Ring
>Dragonslayer Greatbow
>watch them panic

makes me moist
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>dried finger at pontiff porch
>don't summon phantoms but keep way of the blue on
>an Aldrich, a red and a blue in no time
>lead them all down to the two aligators
>seed of giant
>free for all death frenzy

You guys should try it. Did this for like four hours yesterday. Most of the invaders were surprisingly good sports about it and didn't just climb the ladder to escape. Must have been having fun. I side with the aligators and try to protect them from blues and reds.
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>>339600881
Fair enough I agree with you on that

My point was only to the invaders who just constantly complain about honor in random invasions because that pisses me off

Personally I don't do much pvp anymore because of shitty Australian internet so the game fucks me over a lot where enemy players have no hitbox on my end or some weird shit like that
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>>339600886
>>339600986

Fucking hiders; I don't even want to 1v1 you because I'm both shit and playing an INT build but I at least want to see you before I kill myself.
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>>339601148
next time I play DaS3 I'll look up on those spells and equipment that let me blend with the enemies to fuck properly on invasions, shit'll be hilarious
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>>339601048
I always hope for guys like you when I'm in a fight club. They're fun enough in their own right but the chaos of an unfriendly red is a ton of fun every now and then.
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Surprise, you taunt someone to get a reaction, and get a reaction.

Discovery of the century over here.
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whats the point of CREOs if you can get a full orb literally within the first hour of playing
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>>339601303
/thread
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>>339598895
Most of the time if the host used the dried finger you will get backup, which can quickly turn into 3v3 madness, and it's the most fun I've ever had in this game
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>>339601210
Hey man in my case I waited for the motherfucker to show up at the bonfire so we could fight, he was taking forever and I was hungry. If the first place you check in the woods isn't the bonfire you spawn closest to then I'm not fighting through the woods to get to your slow ass.
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>dks 1
>oh an invader! I have to keep my guard up because they could be hiding anywhere!
>dks 2
>oh an invader ! let's fuck him up!
>dks 3
> nah lets kill all the enemies and spam fingers let's troll these invaders we have priority invasions because we're a pussy ass gank squad XD


What went so wrong bros.
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>>339600432
Try the tailbone spear. I think it's still flying under the radar since I never see it. The weapon art has a longer reach than you'd think.
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>>339601074

>Be purple.
>Friendly gesture, drop embers, equip untrue white ring (after showing them I'm a purple so they know I'm not trying to trick them).
>Clip into enemy models and hide under the deacon's skirt until they go down to dogs.
>Follow and attack them with aural decoy; watch them freak out and die.
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>>339588716
Literally R1 the game.
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>>339601313
people who never climb the stairs and see Ringfinger
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>>339601406
You should have seen BB. Outside of 2 areas in the game, you could only spawn a bell maiden in your world if you had a phantom. So ONLY people with phantoms would be invaded. Not even priority shit.
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>>339601406
>what went so right
Summoning failed stopped being a thing.
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>>339588716
>getting butthurt over a fucking gesture
>people are defending this
Absolutely wew.
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>>339601706
mind BLOWN
this is what ds1 was supposed to be all along
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>>339601406
nice fat rolling + walking into them idiot
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>invader gets player to aggro several enemies and then gang bangs the player with all of them
>this is fair

>player has phantoms with him to help clear out all the enemies and kill the invader
>this is not fair
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>>339601475
Being a "friendly" purple is too fun. I miss launch day shenanigans.
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>>339601876
For real though you are invincible when you spawn in and idiot gank squads always try to R1 spam. It gives you time to react to the timing of their swings and use your i-frames to get your sorry ass away from them. Sure you might take a few hits but as long at you don't have 10 fucking vgr you should be able to get away and heal.
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>>339601813
Like, nigga just look away from the screen.

Which is exactly what I do every time I'm ganked to stay calm.
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>>339601912
>invader gets player to aggro several enemies and then gang bangs the player with all of them
It's fair when the player has two phantoms with him.
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>>339588716
I strictly use gestures to piss people off
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>>339588716
There are no rules in invasions. They'd be boring as fuck otherwise. Chug Estus, hide behind mobs, summon phantoms. It's all great your job as the invader is to ruin someone's day, not suck their dick and give them a "fair fight". Fuck that, go do lame ass bridge duels if you want to be boring.
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>>339602074
If I do embarrassingly bad I just shut my eyes and shake my head. I can imagine they're pointing down anyways.
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>>339599638
it does change the title to host of embers but the way to tell the difference is the real host has the glowing orange embers effect and "fake" hosts don't

the only problem then is if the real host wears the ring to get rid of the ember effect too
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Should've just brought the dark souls 1 system back .

Turning human was a risk/reward.
Give invaders priority
Give blue phantoms priority

None of this gank squad BS that Miyazaki got rid off because most dark souls players are too casual and pussy to go through the game alone.
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>>339602132
I basically only use Wave. Nice friendly fight. People take this multiplayer too seriously, being invaded is fun when it's not a twink.
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>>339602320
Wave is an insidious thing
>friendly greeting when you arrive
>cocky goodbye when you kick their ass
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>get 30% more health on Embering

That's fucking retarded
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>>339602117
Its all fair. Don't like it, don't invade.
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>>339602414
Oh, I always thought that waving after beating an invader was like "bye friend, thank you for showing up".
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>flash untrue dark ring on and off next to a fellow red
>he attacks you anyway
>kill him
>"what the fuck why did you kill me?"
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I wouldn't mind getting ganked if poise worked.
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>>339602520
That's how I take it.
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>>339589123
>dying to an invader ruins your fun
I'm not sure if you're cut out for this series.
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>invade at grand archives
>Host with three phantoms and a darkmoon
>kill the phantoms and the darkmoon
>HOST RUNS DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAND ARCHIVES, NEAR THE BONFIRE
>RE SUMMONS ALL HIS FRIENDS
>BEAT THEM AGAIN
>RE SUMMON
>DIE
>QUIET RESOLVE
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>see another mad phantom
>agree to team up
It's pretty comfy.
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>made an ember run, phantoms only for bosses
>Every time invader didn't go to the bonfire arena, he tried to lure me to the mobs and gank there. More than half of them didn't wanted to do "fair" pvp
This monday I made character specially for the 30lvl dancer coplayer invader in the first 3 zones
>After 2 evenings only twice host run back and kept summoning phantoms, most of time he fought until the end
Yep, most of invaders are pussies
>>339602453
In des it was 50%
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>>339600886
This is actually a brilliant tactic, it is hard to find people sometimes and them in combat always give away their position.
I hide among the dead lothric knights in lothric castle dressed as a lothric knight, he black crystaled after a while.
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>>339602621
>stories that never happen
3 phantoms means that guy would be invaded by 3-4 people excluding you(2 at time) while he run back and up
Especially if he had blue faggot
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>>339602703
>phantoms only for bosses

Stopped reading.
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>>339599785
the only thing that parries well is the cestus anyway
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>>339602830
>Dried Fingers
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>>339602835
If you don't play as a knight game is balanced around summons
The only souls game that wasn't balanced around phantoms for the half of builds was des, but of course memer like doesn't care about little things
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>invade a fag and his phantom buddies in Anor Londo
>lure him onto the platform and rotate it
>one phantom falls and dies
>kill the host
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>>339602854
For spamming or fishing I guess. I parry with a shotel offhand and use it for the riposte. Looks way more fly than being just another meta guy with GS and cestus.
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>Cathedral
>Kill everything on the map
>Curl up in the deep mud
>Dried Fingers
Almost 18 white crystals in half an hour, Shit was hilarious.
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>>339588716
>Not being good at parrying
>Not pretending to be afraid and running away from the host and his gank squad
>Not immediately turning around to parry the host in the last second
>Not pulling out BKGA after said parry
>Not anally eviscerating the host
>Not making eye contact with his buddies as they helpless watch
>Not laughing at the phantoms last, rage-filled desperate attempt to kill you in the returning home window
Git gud, skrub.
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>>339602713
When I'm invading, I usually wait until I see the host's bar.
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>>339603207
Sounds funny and boring at the same time.
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>>339602531
He was obviously trying to give your disguise more credibility.
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>>339602982

Wait, so the most difficult class to play, the knight, is the that isn't allowed to summon?
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>>339600886
Maybe he saw you and got depressed at your lack of motivation.
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>>339603270
I just sat down and ate lunch while catching up with some Always Sunny. Personally i had a blast just looking over every now and then to see them running and rolling back and forth trying to find me.
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>>339596648
Being Aldrich is suffering.
>Get called in for another invasion
>Ere we go!
>World has the Host, a white, and a red.
>Wave to the red
>Starts attacking me mid-wave
>roll away into the host and start fighting
>Red comes back and tries to a backstab.
>Roll away
>Another Aldrich spawns in
>Thank the Gods!
>He sits down with the host and watches the red run after me.
>Finally kill the fucker after ignoring him for so long
>A Purple randomly comes from the shadows and one shots me with the FUGS.
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>>339602982
The fuck kind of bizarro world opinion is this? All builds are viable in every souls game. Never played one online.
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>>339603319
He's saying knights are OP just because they spawn with the best weapon in the game.
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>>339590164
>>339590552
Why isn't there a delay on alt+F4 like there was in DS2?
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>>339603413

That is what Aldrich fuckers deserve.
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>>339603428

But outside of DS3, the best weapon in the game was a catalyst.
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>>339603413
>Reds, Purps and other Aldrich fight with the host and his squad only to get bum blastered as soon as i die.
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>>339603564
I just want to preach the good word of our gooey lord and saviour!
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>>339603413
>i'm suffering in the gankiest covenant there is

There is no hope for you as an invader, please hand in your red eye orbs.
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>>339589441
fucking hate it, and then its got a shit boss and its where everyone fucking invades
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>>339603660

I just want to go through the area solo while human, but I get two of you, a purple, and a red, all of whom are instantly replaced even if I can take one of you out.
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>invade kiln
>4 man gank as per usual
>fatigue sets in and just lay down hopeless
>they chill out and don't attack
>another red invades
>at least we have a chance
>suddenly everyone just hanging out for a second
>two phantoms come forward and one + host stay back
>bows all around
>impromptu 2v2 fight club
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>>339603864
Crystal Sage and the Arty Bros are good boss fights.
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>Waves after break into his home
>Gut him like a pig
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>>339604018
Go away Pinwheel, no one likes you.
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>>339589123
Fucking newfags like you ruined souls series.
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>>339604087
I've seen you post before.
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>>339604087
Man I never see people with a shield up anymore.
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>>339604087
>not waving at the end
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>>339604087
I remember doing something like that once. It was on that wall in Farron's Keep (the one with the stray demon). I toasted them and waited for them to sit down with me, then I cancelled the sitting emote and raped them to death with the butcher's axe before they had much of a chance to do anything else.
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>>339604087

>Quiet resolve

I want to throw up.
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>>339604216
Greatshields are viable, anything else is asking for a riposte after guard breaking their shit
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>>339604087
I wish 'shaking my head' was still in the game. I used to infuriate my friends when I used that after slapping their shit.
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>>339590164
Gankers are a salty bunch
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>>339604087
>attack someone who emotes
>hornet ring
>quiet resolve while walking away
How's being 12 treating ya?
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>>339604000
Do people really invade at the Kiln? I mean why could the host not run to the boss fight.

I got summoned yesterday and was greeted by three dragons wearing shields on both hands, we all become dragons and breathed fire on invaders until the left or fell off, 6 invaders fell off actually it was pretty funny.
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>get invaded
>finds me
>walks up and starts to bow
>pretend to bow back
>roll towards him
>swing for the fences and end him in seconds

kek. Keep bowing fags I'm loving this shit
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>>339604345
This game has the worst emotes IMO. Too many redundant ones but no good ones from 2 or 1

>curl up, prostration, and collapse
>path of the dragon, sit, toast, patches squat, sleep
>jump for joy, joy, and hurrah
>not even a single shrug
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>>339604474
Neither of this things is as bad as tears of denial
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Why is it everytime I get invaded it usuallyends up with me getting 2 sometimes 3v1'd because invaders start pouring in. It was the same was in DS2. I just want my health boost damn it
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>rekt invader
>get hate message
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>>339604595
Welcome is the only barely acceptable emote
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>>339596228
You sound like a boring cunt.
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>>339604681
Shit I thought it was just the same as in DS2. This is pretty good.
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>can't invade with embered status/health

Who thought this would be a good idea?
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>>339604595
Don't want to hurt anyone's feelings now
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Fucking love invading in the swamp with a +5 ASS and all my levels into stamina and health
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>>339604937
Here is something better
>ring of sacrifice doesn't keep you embered
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>>339604334
I main regular and man-serpent shotels. Great shield turtles are the rock to my paper. Kinda rare to find one, though.
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>>339604372
I fought an invader who chugged all 6 of his estus and still lost, and he invited me to "THEY SEE ME CHUGGIN, THEY HATIN"
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Invaders are pathetic fucking scum who have a small dick.
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>>339604690
It's called offline mode, it's pretty good if you're a boring faggot.
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>>339598895
Why don't you ask the people in DS1 that would invade undead burg as level 1?
Now that the tables have turned, invaders are really proving that they were always little bitches.
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>>339604595
>not spamming Patches' Squat on them while they fade away
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>>339599701
>getting parried by a spammer

how the hell can you fall for it when you know it's coming?
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>>339605161
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>>339604087
nothhing personel
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How can I get hate mail? I try to be as much of a faggot as possible but I get nothing. On PS4 too.
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>>339600740
>Grammer is just an agreement of rules to make reading easier anyway
That's orthography. Grammar has nothing to do with writing, it's the actual structure of the language itself. Its rules are intrinsic to the language and not any sort of agreements.

Just so you know
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>dried finger
>getting chased all day by Farronfags
>literal cat and mouse game
>finally died after 30 minutes killing people and getting instantly replaced by new invaders
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>>339600618
You could have just spammed roll while in the invincibility animation retard
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>>339598970
>game designed around being unfair
>expects people to fight fair
it's your own fault
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>>339605518
Git gud
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>>339605518
90% of my fan mail comes from gankers when I manage to kill a 3v1. On ps4 as well. Sometimes duel fags send friendly or hate messages, but that's rarer.
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>>339605518
You are not trying hard enough
Generally invaders have weaker mental strength(because invading in das3 is simple as fuck), so better target them
And generally just be as cheap and petty as you can
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>>339605890
Red signs at a duel spot are expected to follow etiquette. Let's not have this retarded argument for the millionth time.
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>>339605829
>Defending the gankers in his situation


kill yourself.
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>>339605518
Just do nothing else but dodge all and any attacks for a few minutes when you get invaded, invader then gets fucked up badly once you start attacking. Most of the time they black crystal out though. I even got mail from a jap writing chicken wwe

>blabla dont play online if youre not gonna fight
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>>339606079
>are expected to

So it's not mandatory.
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>>339605518
Have you tried getting good?
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The only thing the gestures are good for is teabagging losers. Etiquette is for fedora tippers
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>>339604502

It's a fun place to fight and the host won't get (as) salty if he dies because the bonfire is right there and there's no enemies he'll have to rekill or for the invader to hide behind.
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>tfw other invaders think you are on their "team"

lmao
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>>339606297
I played Souls since ASIA DeS and only got one hatemail in DeS and one in DS1
Maybe because i never use stupid meta builds like all these tryhards
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How many players can be in one area at a time?
Is host + 3 phantoms + 2 invaders + 2 aldrich possible?
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>>339606802
I once had Host + 2 Phantoms + 2 Invaders + 1 Watchdog + Summoned Mad Phantom.

It was all out war.
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>>339606661
You don't meta builds. I got tons of hate mail in DaS2 using nothing but scraps of life and knocking them off the map or trapping them in that second bonfire in Huntsman Copse.
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>>339602695
>Be a fight club host
>Make the arena room bedazzled and give out prizes, mostly dung
>All the red phantoms become bros and my soul-farming cattle
>One day that faggot shows up and takes a swing at me
>All the red phantoms 4v1 the other guy and destroy him
>It causes a chain reaction where all the phantoms hit each other trying to kill the one dude and they all slaughter each other

The best form of PvP is ringmaster, there's no disputing this.
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>>339606802
I've had the game bug out and the host got three blues while he had a white already with him.
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>>339606150
No, you arent forced to do so. You just get mocked for it by everybody. Now leave scrub.
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>invade as madman in Anal Rodeo, wearing the Untrue Dark Ring because I'm doing a KKK cosplay outfit
>fight becomes a clusterfuck, 2 Aldrich Faithful vs host and 2 phantoms
>jump in and smack the host around
>one Faithful starts attacking me too
>he keeps doing this until host/phantoms take a crack at him while he's distracted
>this keeps happening until he fucking dies

I can't tell if he was a butthurt SJW, ignorant of how I could damage the host, or just anti-madman.

I've heard that reds attack purples because Reddit's been convincing purples to backstab them because of le shackles; that true?
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