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Is this the most overrated game in existence?

>3 (really 2) game modes
>12 maps
>clearly borrowed from tf2
>SJW elements thrown in
>incredibly bad balancing (IT'S HIGH NOON)
>microtransactions for a $60 game

>b...but it has a ton of characters!
Big fucking whoop. Most of them are useless and unimaginative SJW crap.

Really, why are blizztards so obsessed with this? I would be trying to hide this game's existence if I were them.
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shit your right
its time to stop playing guys

i guess ill buy battleborn or something instead
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Youve convinced me OP

Now Im a #cruzmissle
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>>339588338
high noon isnt op, fan the fucking hammer is.
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>>339588338
You're right but reviewers are so afraid to give it a bad score due to the autism of blizzard's fanbase.

They're giving out 9's and 10's like candy.
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You're right OP I was foolish to be tricked by them sjws at blizzard
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You convinced me, it's time to play some games that /v/ enjoys, quality games like Witcher 3 and Dark Souls. They have great stories!
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how did dan hibiki join overwatch
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No, that belongs to the Souls series (no, you aren't "hardcore" for playing it)
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IT'S
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>>339588338
>He thinks McCrees ult is OP
Man you must really suck if you can't get to cover when your enemy stands out in the open, announces loudly that he's going to kill you, and then waits a second before killing you.
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>>339588832
HIGH
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>>339588910
LORD TIRION FORDRING
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>>339588673
>Tfw I wanted to play as the cool cowboy since he was revelead
>Shitters who don't understand his role or how to deal with him complain he's broken
>Figure I'll ignore it and have fun with muh cowboy character anyways
>Can't have any discussion about tactics or experiences because if I let slip that I play McCree as my primary offense it becomes "LOL E+M2 SCRUB LOOKING FOR EASY KILLS"

And they'll only stop once he's nerfed to worthlessness.

Suffering.
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>>339588832
>>339588910
NIGGER
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>>339588832
>>339588910
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>>339588338

>3 (really 2) game modes
More will be added.
>12 maps
More will be added.
>clearly borrowed from tf2
Who gives a shit?
>SJW elements thrown in
Like what? Bulldyke Zarya?
>incredibly bad balancing (IT'S HIGH NOON)
Some glaring issues, but far from being an imbalanced mess.
>microtransactions for a $60 game
That do nothing and that you can get for free incredibly easily.

4/10
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>>339588338
of all the unbalances things to complain about you choose one of the worst ults? lmao
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In terms of unbalanced ults, Widowmaker's is the most broken.

But hey you could say that about the hero in general
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>>339588338
OP was funny today
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>>339588338
>>SJW elements thrown in
>this is what passes for "games criticism" on /v/
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>>339588979
i dont want him to be worthless, but i think m2, dash, m2 is a little to strong. maybe it needs a cooldown and/or a damage change.

i still think he should be able to wreck 1v1 as thats what his kit is for. But i dont know, him shitting all over a tank ez pz doesnt seem right.

I dont play mcree
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>>339589069
>not an argument
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>>339589265
that is one ugly gook
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>>339588338
>Is this the most overrated game in existence?
Yes
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>>339588338
>SJW elements thrown in
Really? Where?

>Most of the characters are unimaginative SJW crap
Is this the same game with all the waifus and porn?
Aren't there tons of pics and videos and fanart if Tracer, D.Va, Mercy, and Widowmaker doing lewd shit? Don't said characters also have perfectly sculpted asses and victory poses that show them off?

If the game was SJW pandering, it wouldn't have cute girls in the first place. Tumblr and feminists hate cute girls. Typical Tumblr art is purposefully turning attractive feminine women into butch tomboyish he-shes with ugly noses. Overwatch is the opposite of that with plenty of fanservicd to go around.
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>>339588338
What are the "SJW elements"?
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>>339588338
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>>339589631
But they don't like it when people use the game's assets to create porn so they must be evil SJWs + friends with Anita/Zoe
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>>339589746
They own the models, it's understandable. Nintendo does the same shit with mods, look at PM.

That doesn't make it right, and fans should continue to churn the porn.

Blizzard are cunts, this isn't news. That doesn't mean the game has SJW elements thrown in though...
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>>339589553
I know him shitting all over a tank doesn't seem right but since his primary role is tank counter and flanker, and since the ONLY thing he brings to the table is damage when all the other heroes do so much more, how do you nerf him without making him a hindrance to the team?

It's tricky. You could put his fan on cooldown and he'd still be able to close quarters a lot of the heroes in a 1v1, but only do moderate damage to tanks. Takes away his role as a problem for tanks but still, at this point I'd be fine with it if it means I get to play him in peace.

That or maybe making his flashbang a direct hit, I dunno.
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>>339589631
>>339589668
Also there's like 2 white males in the game (ones a cyborg) when 90% of the fanbase are white men.

Stay cucked.
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>>339588338
>It's an "the game is popular, it must be shit" episode
>It's an "the game is popular so it must be completely wrought with SJW episode"

Fucking hell, /v/. Grow the fuck up
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>>339589879
Are you retarded? They're anti-porn therefore anti-sex therefore SJW
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>>339589892
>literally not an argument

You blizztards really are stepping your game up.
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>>339588338
>SJW elements thrown in.
>The SJW appeasement characters are massive a-holes, racist, and generally intolerant towards new ideas different viewpoints.
Huh, I think the SJW characters are in joke at Blizz at how they view the SJW mentality, but that can't be right, can it?
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>>339588338
You must have had a very short time of existence
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>>339590039
W-what. Everything you just said is a lie.

Also ofc you're a weeb.
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>>339589886
>the only thing he brings to the table is an "I WIN" button and a potential team kill ult
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>>339589892
>doesnt actually address any of the points from the OP

fuck off blizzdrone
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>>339589889
And DOA has like one male, and he's Asian. Your point?

Half the cast is eye candy, the other half are badass dudes, with like one or two bones tossed at the leftist retards with the obvious lesbian tossed in.

If anything, the pink haired lesbo seems to have been added for the sake of having something fresh and new, not pandering.

Are you seriously crying about being "underrepresented"? What the fuck is wrong with you? That's the same shit we hate about SJWs. Look, I don't mind a thing here or there being added that might appeal to other people, so long as I have hot girls to fap to, and badass dudes to play as.

Was it "SJW pandering" when Guilty Gear added a legit trap in the form of Bridget, and two openly gay dudes in the form of Venom and Testament, because I don't think it was.
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>>339589886
i dont think you can really change his flashbang without making him complete garbage, without it hes useless, a direct hit only wouldnt really solve the tank soloing issue as you dont really need it to kill them. It just makes it alot easier.

i honestly believe a cooldown would work best, we'll just have to see what blizzard does to him.
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>>339589889
I dont think that having a stereotypical "stronk russian bear wrestler person" as a character is an "SJW element"
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>>339589889
>(ones a cyborg)
But Genji is japanese, have you even had a cursory glance at the game?
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>muh SJW's

The characters are varied and unique with good reason to be so. Just because some characters are varied doesn't mean this is some ultra-jewish propaganda.

Haven't bought the game tho. Waiting for more content and have to finish some others.
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>>339590295
she doesnt need a buff
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>>339590035
And how does that affect the game? I can stare at Tracer's crack all day, and D-va suit has objects on her chest that look like her nipples, and both of these were MADE by Blizzard.
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>>339588338

It's basically Team Fortress 2 mixed with Dota 2 and CS:GO
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>>339590394
she does

her cooldowns need to be reduced and the shields need to last longer, at least her self-cast one.

without her shift shield she's wet tissue paper and it only lasts like 1 fucking second for some reason.
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>>339590214
Thanks for contributing nothing, shitter.

>>339590327
>i honestly believe a cooldown would work best, we'll just have to see what blizzard does to him.

Yeah, agreed. Him being nerfed into the bedrock is a fear of mine but I have to believe that they'll put a reasonable tradeoff in place instead, one that everybody can live with and keeps a hero from being a useless spot on the roster.
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>>339588338
Can we fucking stop throwing the word SJW every fucking where?
I dont even like the game but if a character with pink hair bothers you you should re evaluate your life.
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>>339590295
Zarya is my tryhard character. What does she even need buffed?
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>>339590495
Stop being shit.
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>>339589889
White men are natural cucks anyway, why would you play one?
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>>339590656
wow, good job, you did well as her in one match

that totally means she doesn't need a buff
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>>339590474
Where the hell is CS GO in that shitty casual fuckfest?
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>>339590354
That's not the character I was talking about...
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>SJW elements

Name one
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>>339588338

OP, holee shit u geneus

blizzard shore got me I tel ya

tiem 2 play sumting els
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>>339589892
Its a bait thread, neither you or me should reply to be honest
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>>339588338
>>incredibly bad balancing (IT'S HIGH NOON)
>how to out yourself as a shitter in one sentence
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>>339590857
Looks like the blizztard shillbot is malfunctioning.
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>>339588338
Haha!
We won V/blizzard is stomped!!!,! 2!!1!1
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>>339590435
>liking SJW shit
Fuck off cuck, play a real game made by real men
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>>339590741
If anybody needs a buff its monkbot. He melts under any pressure and has no way to escape if anybody finds him. His damage is good but the bro should go faster for floating.
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>>339588338
I was about to write some longish answer, until I noticed that this thread already existed.

Yesterday. And the day before that. And the day before that.

And guess what?
AND THE DAY BEFORE THAT!

And also: THE GAME

Here's your (You). Faggot.
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>>339591237
i agree. also widow needs to be nerfed because a sniper should not be able to one shot anybody with a body shot, especially when headshot are so generous.
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>>339589069
>>339589198
>>339589265
>>339589404
>>339589631
>>339589679
>>339589892
>>339590039
>>339590323
>>339590374
>>339590592
>>339590847
>>339590857
>>339590929
>all these retards trying to justify buying a shitty game

Too bad this was a complete flop sales-wise and you'll have no one to play with but yourself in a month.
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>>339591357
At least it's not Battleborn, which is already dead
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>>339591427
Top fucking keke
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>>339589198
I agree with everything you said apart from getting the stuff from microtransactions easily. It's RNG from the loot boxes.

I would of preferred it if you unlocked stuff through achivs
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>>339591357
Look everyone, the frogposter is trying to type!
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>>339588338
>Is this the most overrated game in existence?
No.
It's just a dull fps that takes some inspiration from mobas. Solid 5/10.
There are plenty of genuinely terrible games that get a lot of praise.
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>>339588338
ow shit, my eyes are open now op.
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>>339588338
Your right but the brainwashed don't care and will defend it.
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Do you think you could say negative things about the game without the use of buzzwords? I don't even have it, I'm just curious if you can.
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>>339591992
Read the greentext in OP
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>>339592216
>Read the greentext in OP
>No buzzwords

Pick one lol
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>>339589889
What the hell are you talking about there's Junkrat, McCree, Reinhardt, Roadhog and Soldier 76. Additionally, 4 of the females are white. So that means 9/21 characters, or just below 50%, are white.

Don't worry baby, the white man isn't going anywhere any time soon. The other characters are essentially memes to pander to minorities (fucking morons).
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>>339592327
SJW is not a buzzword. It's not even a word.
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>>339592216
Yeah, that was my problem you idiot.
>SJW
>12 Maps at launch is bad?
>Bad Balancing and a meme
>SJW
>crap
>unimaginative

Yeah, doing great there champ.
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>>339592365
Oops I also forgot le funny dwarf man but my point still stands.
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>>339592365
McCree is Hispanic (look at his skintone and he's from New Mexico), Reinhardt is Asian, and Roadhog is an obese blob.
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>>339592546
.....Reinhardt is German....?
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>>339588338
>>SJW elements thrown in
stopped reading it there
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>>339588338
Really the only issue is how easy it is and how repetitive it gets. I enjoy it but how does blizzard expect this to be a serious esport
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>>339592704
Exactly, caucASIAN

HAHAHAHAHAJSJJWJSJAJAJAJJSJSJSJAHSJKDKDJAJAK
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>>339591357
You made the thread, the only one trying to justify shit here is you.
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>>339589889
You know, Zerya isn't half as bad as I thought she would be when they announced her. Her hair being bright pink is still fucking stupid though.
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Op vs this thread
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>>339592904
Ahhh topkekkekekekekek

>inb4 Germans can be black !!!1!
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>>339593023
Give it up OP, you made a shit thread.
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>>339593026
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Guis, op has convinced me of my errorful ways, I will be deleting over watch off my pc, as well as the operating system. I'm also gonna burn my overwatch poster and buy battleborn for the shitbox one. Thank you op, you really did improve somebody's life today
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Reapers Ultimate is much harder to deal with than High Noon. Assuming the Reaper isn't retarded.
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>>339593245
Battle born is shit too.
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>>339593245
Try using your poster to hang yourself
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>>339590495
>her cooldowns need to be reduced and the shields need to last longer
Are you fucking serious
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>>339593816
Why are you tards arguing about balance on this thread?
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>>339588338

This game has such great potential.

I wish I had friends to play with ...
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>>339594237
>gaming
>friends

Pick one and only one.
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>>339594425
OH GOSH DODE I HAVE FRIENDS AND I PLAY OVERWATCH WITH EM AND I KNOW THEM IRL TOO WOOH WE OFTEN DRINK TOGETHER AND SHIT MAN WOOOOOOOOOH WHAT DID I DO WRONG AM I NOT LIKE YOU NEETS GUYS ?
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>>339594425

I guess I already did fampai
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>>339588338
>GOTY
>overrated

lmao at your life
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>>339591357
I haven't bought it, I'd like to since I like the designs, but I need to build a decent rig first.
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>>339588338

So how come TF2 got away with it? Because it was only $20? Would Overwatch be able to get away with it if it came in an optional bundle like TF2 did with The Orange Box?

Let me remind you TF2 barely had any content when it first came out. Overwatch has twice the content of vanilla TF2, so obviously it's gonna cost twice the price. It's a no brainer.
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>>339588338
>>incredibly bad balancing (IT'S HIGH NOON)
I see what you mean there. 99 times out of 100, a McRee can't get his High Noon off because people either hide or fuck him up. While all the other heroes can get their ults off no problem, his is a roll of the dice as to whether or not the enemy team is paying attention

It really needs rebalancing. They need to buff it.
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>>339594674

truth be told, overwatch probably doesn't even need that heavy a rig.

I'm running it on a toaster ( was a top end pc 7 years ago) and its smooth as fuck.
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>>339588979
>plays the easiest character in the game
>gets mad when he gets called out on it
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>>339595038
Yeah, but I need to build a rig for other reasons, and that takes priority. No point in getting distracted and playing some game on a shitty PC, when I can prioritize myself, and the wait time serves as a buffer to see what the word seems to be on the game once the dust has settled. Plus, STEAM sales.
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>>339594831
SO FUNNY /V/
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>>339595238

Truth be told I also need a new rig...
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>>339590495
you are not good at the video game
try to get better
it's embarassing
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>>339589198
>>>339588338 (OP)
>>3 (really 2) game modes
>More will be added.
>>12 maps
>More will be added.

No excuse; there should've been more content for the price point. If it were any company besides blizzard, it would be understandable. Blizzard had the time and money. I'm sure they held back content to release as an xpac or dlc. Fits modern blizz practices.

Fucking blizzard and their skinner box game design. Every since wow, every game is designed to milk its fanbase.
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>>339595546
Every map and character will be free in the future.
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>>339589889
Man, this guy isn't even trying.

Junkrat, Soldier 76, Roadhog, and McCree are all white males. Nice b8 m8
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>>339595756

I'm not doubting you, I believe you've read this somewhere. Can I have the source for future reference?

I wholly believe even if this was said, or implied, they will backpedal it.
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Congratulations special snowflake, you made another Overwatch hate thread stating things everyone has said already

Kill yourself anytime
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>>339595984
http://www.pcgamer.com/all-of-overwatchs-post-launch-maps-and-heroes-will-be-free/
They are already making mad money with game sales and loot boxes probably
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>>339588338
Yes if you ask me.

My main problem with Overwatch is that it disappoints me. For a game that tries to compete with other games like TF2, they blew it in many ways.

There are 4 things during the open beta that made me lose interest in this game. Lack of custom maps, lack of private/custom servers, lack of gamemodes, and the fact that each game can only hold a maximum of 12 people (I am aware that it's their decision for this one but it was a bad decision if you ask me).
What made TF2 enjoyable for me is that it fixes the things that I complained earlier. It supports custom maps, it gives people the freedom to make their own servers, it gives more gamemodes like CTF and the whole carnival event, and it gives the players the control to adjust how many players per game.
If Overwatch wants me to give my cash to them, they should serve me better or at least somewhat equal to what TF2 is giving to me. And they are charging me $40-60. That's too much. Even TF2 costs like $15-20 on release and they still give me a good time as compared to Overwatch.

Aside from what I have mentioned earlier, there are still some problems, big and small, that I have observed that gives me some poor feedbacks.
-The map design in Overwatch isn't that good. I observed that almost every map has like one exit from the base and each one of them feels narrow and too linear.
-The characters are not that memorable outside from their appearance. They don't have that many interactions between each character and the environment and their lines, especially on the command/voice line, are forgettable. They look colorful outside but they are soulless and empty as fuck on the inside.The characters in TF2 and LoL are more memorable and lovable than the characters in Overwatch.
-The OST is bland.
-Gun sound effects are bad.

I know this is Blizzard's first time trying the FPS genre but if Naughty Dog can make a racing game for the first time and succeed, why not Blizzard?
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>>339592972
Agreed, I haven't played her much but her hair color is the only sjw about her, easily over looked
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What if people who actually played the game made overwatch threads
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>>339588338
Better questions is:
Why do we need 10 Overwatch thread? Five of which are obvious bait.

I mean nobdoy will change its opinion because a troll, a poorfag or a mad battleborn/tf2 player made yet another bait thread. And the rest can be discussed in the general.
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>>339596521
>The characters in TF2 and LoL are more memorable
What is this bullshit about TF2 characters. Seriousy. I played a little TF2 with friends and no. It's full white dude with one black dude. Scout, Heavy and Soldiers are the same dude more or less fat. They don't say shit about lore or anything in game. The game itself is good, alright, but stop saying the caracters are "deep and well designed", that's stupid as fuck. They have as much soul as a Halo MP character.
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>>339595179
>Play favourite looking character in the game
>Get mad when people rage at getting outskilled
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>>339596861
>they're white and therefore all the same
>what are ethnicities lol

Never change, SJWs.
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>>339588338
it's close second. the most overrated game will always be TLOU for me
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>>339588338
It's only liked because of the waifus. I bet you that if there weren't any grills, the game would not have sold.
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>>339597190
>Acknowledging the varied culture and ethnicities of white-skinned people
>Accusing someone else of being SJW
Nice try tumblr-kun
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It's not overrated. It's not even rated. It has just been shilled hard. Nobody with any taste is actually playing it.
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it's pretty fun and addicting still

but it would be much better without the boring healers and moba ultimates to appeal to fat retarded WoW players
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>>339596861
"If I dun no get 25% niggas, 25% gooks, 25% crackers and 25% Redskins! Ima go mad! U racist punks!"
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>>339596861
The characters in TF2 interacts with each other very well. If one them kicks a specific character's ass so hard, they will mock them like this : https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/1/13/Spy_DominationScout04.wav?t=20100626000435 and this https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/a/aa/Demoman_dominationengineer03.wav?t=20100625230247

You don't have to make the characters say something related to their lore. A simple yet memorable quotes are enough to keep people entertained.

Also, what's wrong with the fact that there's like one black dude and the rest are white? A good game with good characters doesn't need to have a diverse list of casts you know. Good characteristics is the only thing that matters, not the fact that there's an Asian or something like that. I'm fucking Asian myself and I'm fine with the fact that there's no Asian in TF2. Because I don't give a shit about it.
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>>339597190
That's not "they're the same". I don't care about that, I just see them running everywhere and shooting about others. But they all look the same, and that's utterly boring. But you're cherrypicking, my main point is "they don't have any lore pointed in the game, so how can they be less empty than overwatch characters".
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>>339588338
>I dont like X game
Guess what. No one gives a shit about what you dont like.
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>>339597390
It didn't sell anyways.
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>>339598184
>It didn't sell anyways
Overwatch?

Are you high?
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I wanted to play this for the cute D. Va but I can't justify the price tag.

Seriously $60 and no campaign mode? Only 2 multiplayer modes? Unreal 2004 launched with like 20 different modes and managed to make a decent campaign with the AI.

Apart from that it's just designed pooly. Too many characters just have some high-middle firing speed hit scan weapon, wheres all the cool stuff? Only one weapon per character?

Cooldown style ultimates are there to help bad players. Most of them seem to do some big attack that if not completly unavoidable in many situations basically forces you to leave combat and give the enemy full control over the zone until the ability ends.
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>>339598184
Prove it. Post numbers . We want to know
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>>339597917
I don't give a shit too about color. It's just that like I said most of them looks the same and THAT is boring. I'm not attached to any of these characters and I don't even know what they're doing here. I can't give them a personnality, except maybe from pyro "im le epic psychopath" and obvious shit like this.
Ok, I was wrong since you pointed out these taunts, but hell, I never heard that in game. it's not memorable, or way less than overwatch shit.

That's what i'm trying to say.
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NERF THIS
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>>339597021
>outskilled
ezest 100 to 0 combo in the game and its a fucking aoe stun
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>>339598282
Protip: if a vidya company isn't bragging about their product selling well, it didn't sell well.
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>>339598328
Have you dominated someone that badly? If not, then those taunts will occur if you do dominate them. If you did, it could be that the taunt didn't trigger because you we're under heavy fire or something.
Also, there's still other things/lines outside from the taunts that made them memorable.

As for their appearance, I find it to be different if you ask me. All of them looks very different in my eyes. You can analyze them in many ways (outside from the weapons they use) and quickly like how their silhouette looks like, what's their body type, their clothes, and their (default) hats. Pretty basic yet effective stuff if you ask me.
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>>339591427
>Comparing it to the lowest common denominator
Why are Overcucks still doing this?
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>>339595546
>More will be added meme
So you admit to paying 60$ for an incomplete game?
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>>339598801
Wow , you must have studied economics or something to take this for a fact because its really based....

I will totally respect your opinion now and might even hang it on my wall
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>>339588338
It's a new IP from Blizzard. It's kind of like how Splatoon was a big deal for Nintendo. People want to encourage legacy devs to release new things instead of just re-hashes of popular IP's.
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>>339598801
If you followed the game on facebook you'd see they have already posted numbers for how many people played during the open beta.

Do you even remotely imply that there were less people after the release ?

stop shitposting
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LOL another one of these contrarian /v/ threads?

OP do you work for Gearbox or something?
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>>339598803
That's where we're different. In my opinion they look too bland to be really attractive. I understand that they can grow on you with time, but saying they're way more fleshed out than OW chars is not really honest.
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>>339599095
Implying new content means its not completed.
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>>339588338
Maybe, but at least it gave me the perfection that is Roadhog.
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Meme game of the year, just like Undertale was.

It will die in a month or two.
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>>339588338
spore?
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>>339599481
yeah just like valve's hat simulator.

oh wait
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>>339588338
>12 maps
TF2 started with like 6, if Blizzard keep supporting the game it's fine

>clearly borrowed from tf2
Stop the presses, game takes influence off another

>SJW elements thrown in
One character with pink hair does not mean SJW

>incredibly bad balancing (IT'S HIGH NOON)
I rarely die to that, because I'm better than you at this game

>microtransactions for a $60 game
Cosmetics*

If they start charging for maps/heroes, then we have an issue

I'm a shill, buy Overwatch for $60 + tax
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>>339599481
Yeah, that is why every pro gaming team already has players dedicated to the meme game.

Keep living in your angry denial. The game is sick fun, it will be played, money will be made off of it. Cry all the way.
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>>339599543
TF2's community is dead though.
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>>339599842
t.Blizzardshill.
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>>339599889
>Dead community
>Always top 4 on steam

How can this even be ?
People clearly play tf2 so they count as a community.
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>>339599968
easy shit
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>>339600007
>furries, hat lovers, hackers and underage faggots
>community
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>>339600193

>Dead

I think he means dead inside
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>>339600193
Even that is considered a community.

It doesnt have to be good to be one
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>>339600007
I don't think the majority of those people actually play the game, but just sit in idle servers and trade hats.
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>>339599412
Whatever floats your boat I guess.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that I find the character's personality in TF2 to be more open or something like that. The way they mention somethings, like when they do basic stuff like pushing a cart or using a teleporter, feels lively and shows their personality much better when compared to Overwatch.
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>>339588338
I had never played a single Blizzard game before trying the Overwatch beta, but I really enjoyed it. I decided to pre order the game after hearing that all future DLC would be free, the difference between this game and so many other FPS failures such as SW; Battlefront, is that we aren't having to pay $110 for the whole experience, just one transaction for the whole package. I'm loving the game, I don't think its unbalanced, it's about learning how to properly counter a certain hero and adapting to your surroundings. But sure, keep shitting on a perfectly fine game because of its non-existent SJW agenda
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>>339588338
Is this the most overrated game in existence?

>4 (really 3) game modes
>6 maps and the only one that's played is ctf_2fort
>clearly borrowed from tfc
>incredibly bad balancing (UBERCHARGE) (Yes, I'm making a balance complain as retarded as yours)
>bought the game at launch for $40
>went free later, with microtransactions, and not only cosmetic but also OP weapons
>Originated a new cancer trend in the industry of games releasing at full price and going free a year later
>SJW elements thrown in since the Gun Mettle update, along with pandering to MLPfags.

>doesn't even have tons of characters
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>>339588338
No that title goes to Half Life 1 and 2
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>>339600838
>>339600796
God bless you
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>>339599335
With respect, anon. An open beta is free.
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>>339588775
FATHER
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>>339589198
>far from being an imbalanced mess.
It's an imbalanced mess. People are crying about the same 4 heroes being broken for a reason.
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>>339598801
Well that's it boys, wrap it up. Overwatch is DOA. I should have listened to my investor when he said the best way to know if a game is doing well is whether or not the company is bragging about the sales on social media.
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>>339600838
that's a bold statement
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Wait no one is overrating it though. The general consensus is that it's a fun fps but no one is saying it's the best game ever.
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>>339601058
Its free and not even half of the people that wanted to play the game were available to join the very short timed open beta.

If there were 10 million then i can safely bet that there still 10 if not more.

It really doesnt matter. Its over 5 million for sure so that guy who said it didnt sell can choke on his dick.
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>>339601180
Is the reason because they're shitters that need to ?
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>>339601214
But its true, people till this day suck valve's dick for both these games but they don't really live up to what people make them to be.
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>>339601345
Are you saying Blizzard never had any balance issues on any of their games? Blizzard always fucks up balancing anything.
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>>339588338

you got me OP

i'm officially #battleborn
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>>339596861
>Scout, Heavy and Soldiers are the same dude more or less fat.
>narcissistic, cocky fast-talking boston punk
>big russian bear in love with his gun
>drill sergeant stereotype who is also a raving lunatic
>the same
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>>339601445
Of course they have balancing issues. So does TF2 and most class based games.

But Blizzboys are also notorious for being fucking retards and crying nerf at anything and everything.
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You got me OP
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>>339590757

>cs go
>not casual RNG bullshit

you tried
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Only thing I believe us 100% bullshit is the loot boxes being the only way to unlock stuff. I paid for your shitty game, let me have a better choice at unlocking shit besides praying for a good drop.

The maps are pretty terrible too. Temple of Anubis being the worst of them all.
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>>339596521
>The characters in LoL are more memorable
Are you drunk or just booty-brainwashed? The characters in LoL are no different from Overwatch. You could call it an FPS version of LoL even.
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>>339601578
Why is D.va such a fucking pig?
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>>339597021
>>339597021

you dont outskill anything though. Even the beefiest fucking tank in the game can die from grenade m2 dash m2. No other dps is that strong save reaper and reaper doesn't have a way to make them stand still and not fight back
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>>339588338
>SJW elements thrown in
I'm really bored of this argument. Just call it bad character design (because it is really bad)
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>>339601214
HL2's seesaw puzzles weren't that exciting.
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>>339601704
Stop overestimating LoL.
Riot would wish this was true.
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>>339596861
>Scout, Heavy and Soldiers are the same dude more or less fat.
Are you some kind of retard?

>It's full white dude with one black dude.
Oh, you are.
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>>339601757
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>>339601894
The two sentences are true, dude.
The fact that they have similar clothing colors is helping, sure, but three bald guys with huge jaws don't hit me as "varied and fleshed out cast"
Sorry for saying bad things about your favorite hat simulator
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>>339588979
Literally just put a fucking cd on his fan, that's it. That's all you need to make him balanced.
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>>339602228
>Sorry for saying bad things about your favorite hat simulator
Oh please, you offend me as much as some guy saying the earth is flat.
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>>339588547
Don't do it, that game sucks far more than OW
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so when is the first content update? I want some more maps at least.
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>>339588338
Give it time. Barebones TF2 had even less.

As someone who plays team fortress know xbox I can assure you it had less than Overwatch.
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>>339602349
TF2's characters might have pretty unique personalities, but in terms of appearance there's not much of interest.

By contrast Overwatch has really dull characters, but visually they're very unique.
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>>339600796
>6 GOOD maps that are still used today with minimal changes
>Is a sequel, not a ripoff of a different series
>came bundled with four other games
>weapons could acquired for free by drops, crafting or trading
>went F2P 3 or 4 years after it came out
I don't even know what you're getting at with the last one.
>MLP invented unicorns
OW is fine and all, but TF2 is still the better game. The fact that it is NINE years old and still a direct competitor to OW is something to be respected. Maybe OW will last as long, but somehow I doubt it.
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>>339589889
Soldier 76
Mcree
Reinhardt
Junkrat

Considering theres to african male you think your racist ass would see your coming ahead
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>>339602690
Can you develop ? seriously, i would be glad to know how Tf2 char's have more "unique" personnalities.
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If some of you guys want to quit it then quit it, I'm sure you'll play some other.. oh wait no you don't, there aren't many decent online shooters out the atm. Doom mp sucks so bad..
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>>339588975
Underrated post
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>>339588338
yes
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>>339602228
scout and soldier aren't bald and all of their personalities are completely different
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>>339603213
Sure i see a lot of their personnalities when im shooting at them.
I'm talking about appareance dumbass.

Bald, shaved head, whatever. You know what I mean.
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>>339602831
By uniqueness I guess I really just meant 'better'.

Imma assume you haven't played TF2 much, because people that get into it learn the characters pretty well. It's subtle for the most part, but that's part of why it's good characterisation - their appearance isn't what defines their character. Compare that to Overwatch where you can see every aspect of a character's personality from what they look like. The dwarf is grumpy and stoic, the music guy is upbeat, the ice girl is a bit shy, but perky etc.

Don't get me wrong Overwatch's character designs are very good and it's to their credit that you can see their characters in their aesthetic, but it does make the characters very shallow as a result.
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>>339588338
It's overrated, but compared to how hard other companies will buttfuck you for $40, I wasn't too upset with the content we got.
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>>339598813

Brcause like all blizzard games since wow when confronted with the quality of their game drones go m-muh popularity muh twotch views
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Bunch of crybabies in this thread literally. There's finally a game that's a fast paced shooter without the autism of quake or tribes ascend, and you have more than 4 viable classes for comp play (soldier, scout, medic, demo).. gtfo if you don't know anything.
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>>339594708
TF2 came with two other games, and didn't have microtranscations at release. Overwatch cost $40 - $60 for a single game that has less content than most modern F2P games, and the only way to unlock everything in the game is through microtransactions and RANDOM loot drops. That's the worst part, you can't even get skins by playing a character a lot or unlocking achievements. Blizzard went for the loot crate cash crab and you fell for it. If any other company did this, the game would have failed.
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>>339603851
Shill detected.
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>>339603396
>Sure i see a lot of their personnalities when im shooting at them.
every single TF2 match is constant chatter
you don't have to have every character be some sort of magical loli fairy or weaboo knight for them to have personality you dipshit fagtron
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>>339603998
I want fast paced game without strafe jumping, and without microtransactions. What do I play? Not the 2 games I mentioned.
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>>339603513
>I have no actual argument so I'll use the word "better" and bullshit the rest
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>>339602314
This is a suprisingly simple and effective way of nerfing him without crippling him. And quite likely to be implemented, as the blizzard guy said they are not likely to make a change with the stun.
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>>339604307
>without microtransactions
So, you can't play Overwatch either.
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>>339604442
I typoed, I meant to say "pay to win" mechanics, you can buy armor / upgrades / weapons on tribes.

my bad
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>>339604381
>No argument.
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>>339604007
Why are you speaking about their personnalities like you would be speaking about your ugly gf's one.
I was only trying to tell that they're bland in fucking design you turbocuck
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>>339604529
>being BTFO
>has to move to goal post.
Pathetic.
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>>339604307
It's hardly can be considered a shooter with built in:
>Aim Hacks
>Aim Assist (Even on PC)
>Wall Hacks
>Unlimited Ammo
The gameplay is fairly braindead and doesn't require accurate aiming. Everyone is just mashing left click in the general direction of the enemy.
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>>339604756
I actually meant to say exactly that, pay to win mechanics. It's up to you if you want to believe me or not. The fact is those two games are cancerous, and you don't find that same cancer in OW.
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>>339604780
I fail to see your point, anon.
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>>339604653
>they don't have enormous pauldrons and 200 particle effects so they're bland
they're not meant to be some form of retarded avengers ripoff where you can find your gayvorite character and draw lots of trashy fanart, they're meant to be a team of mercenaries
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>>339604780
Well to be fair, game has to be fun too, if it were too hard it'd be another quake, and nobody (literally, nobody) wants another quake, since those games are too hard for majority of population. This is good balance of "casual" and "competitive".
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the rng boxes really made it feel like a free to play game, that's probably why i feel like its not worth the price right now, later on when they add more stuff i might get it
>poorfag
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>implying it's not going to be fucking deader than loadout after a month since gimmicks can't keep a game afloat in place of good gameplay, see: tf2
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>>339604912
Instead they're so random with the epic frying pan weapon xD
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>>339588338
>SJW elements thrown in

I guess any game with females is now SJW propaganda.
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>>339591357
Gimme your email so I can say hello in a month and a day :^)
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>>339605027
I agree, anon.

They should've settled on a sale price or the loot crates, but not both. That's just greedy.
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You only need to look at a "true" team fortress, called "fortress forever" mod for HL2.. it's "true" team fortress, what original TF2 would've been if Valve didn't decide to change direction. Do you guys seriously think TF2 would've survived this long if it had taken that direction instead? I highly doubt it.
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>>339592904
>caucASIAN
more like cuckasian :^)
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>>339603851
>There's finally a game that's a fast paced shooter without the autism of quake or tribes ascend
I agree man, there's finally a game that's fast but not too fast for me.

Incidentally I think CoD is too fast when I sprint :3
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>>339604583
You want one?
>Overwatch where you can see every aspect of a character's personality from what they look like
If you're not a complete autistic child, this same line applies to the TF2 characters.
Of course further characterization for the each character comes from playing the game. That applies for both games.
And both IPs further developed their characters with promotional videos and comics.
Your point is as ridiculous as it is uninformed.
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>>339591357
Local frogposter tries to bait.
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>>339599438
At first I thought this was some homo shit but instead it's feels. Pleasant surprise.
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Uh, blizzdrones?
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>>339601684
Currency bro, just buy your favourite stuff
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>>339605409
>tracer
>ass
top kek, all of the other characters have a better ass than Tracer
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>>339605409
Overwatch BTFOing feminists yet again

Based Blizzard
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>>339605409
As you have already shown, an image is worth a thousand words, even more if it has a funny filename, so I'll do just the same.
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>>339605406
What's that supposed to mean?
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i only played the beta cause of the mecha warrior and was able to spam japanese at others, it was fun to see ults and see that shield faggot just block everything and make attacking a point damn near impossible after a while it got boring since its like tf2 but with less stuff in it + i only had to pay 15€ to get tf2 and garrysmod on which i spent most of my shit years at, so OW is literally not worth 60€ its like it only costs so much cause blizzard made it like iphone costs so much cause apple made em justa fucking brand name, the game is in a state where some cunt just asks 60€ for a pre alpha early access game that never gets out of pre alpha
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>>339605409
Them being sexy shouldn't be a problem.
Only having one body type however I would consider a (first-world) "problem" and Overwatch already meets the demands for other body types - so I don't see any point of argueing - it's all good in the hood
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>>339588338
>>3 (really 2) game mode
Sure
>>12 maps
More than any AAA release recently
>>clearly borrowed from tf2
That's a good thing. If valve won't give there fans what they want blizzard will.
>>SJW elements thrown in
HURR HURR SJW CONSPIRACY calm down guy.
>>incredibly bad balancing (IT'S HIGH NOON)
This proves that you havnt played the game.
>>microtransactions for a $60 game
It's not 60$. Youre retarded
>>b...but it has a ton of characters!
Yes it does and more to come for free.
>Big fucking whoop. Most of them are useless and unimaginative SJW crap.
Every female is ass n tits wrong again
>Really, why are blizztards so obsessed with this? I would be trying to hide this game's existence if I were them.
> Majority of people on /v/ like a game therefore I hate it.
Grow up faggot
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>>339590578
I have an idea: How about instead of having just some kind of a cooldown on his fan the hammer, how about it SHARES cooldown with his stun, and when you roll you reset the fan but not the stun.

This way, he will still have the strong 1v1 capability he has, but is forced to think and conserve his cooldowns. So you can't just rely on using fan whenever you meet someone, because it will also trigger your stun cooldown. The roll reloading your fan would preserve the capability of doing two fan bursts fast, which is a pretty important combo.
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>>339606305
>HURR HURR SJW CONSPIRACY calm down guy.
Do you think it will somehow become untrue if you call it a conspiracy? Because it's pretty damn out in the open.
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Yeah this "strong womynz" meme is cool and all but when are you kids going to take it to /vg/?
Can't you masturbate over hats and reassure eachother that you didn't blow 60 dollars on a game deader quicker than awesomenauts somewhat better there?
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>>339606468
oh wait I have to fix my idea since this fucks up his main combo

Maybe his stun wouldn't trigger his fan cooldown, but his fan would trigger his stun cooldown.
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I consider the game to have only 1 game type. The payload is essentially a King of the Hill and the other one is literally King of the Hill.
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Guys, can we all just agree that Mei OP? Way too much utility on a single hero, deals some good damage too, hard to kill since of her ice froze (during which her team will usually come to help her)
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>>339588338
>>SJW elements thrown in

Holy fuck what a shitpost

Moderators
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>>339606578
>trying to appeal to a broader audience and having different characters from different countries means it's SJW

I definitely think they considered the SJW factor, but this point is retarded. Just because they decided to have different characters of different races doesn't mean it's automatically shit or that they tried to appeal purely to the SJW audience.

>hurr they removed a tracer pose because of SJW
I'd consider this a problem if they didn't add a pose that was even more sexualized than the one they removed.
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>>339602772
>weapons could acquired for free by drops, crafting or trading
and?
You can still buy weapons that provide an advantage over other players.
In OW you can just wait for loot packs too so we might as well not complain about microtransactions right?
Retard.
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>>339607527
>you can just wait for loot packs too
Loot packs only give cosmetic items. The things you buy with the in game credits are also the same cosmetic items from the drops.
OW doesn't have or need a paywall to pwn noobs like you
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Many those things can be fixed.
HOWEVER
My main problem with it is that it's designed for casuals. Anyone with low skill can jump in, die five times, and finally use an ultimate, then the round is over. But at least little Timmy took out three people with his wallhack dragon, so he is satisfied. The fact that it will always be fast paced will never change and that poisons everything.
I'd play it on vita or 3ds, but this is not a game for a home console/pc.
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Overwatch is pretty well balanced honestly.

A Tier : Could probably do with a little shaved off the top.

HIGH NOON
NEIN-HARD
fag ninja
BEATS BY DRE.

B Tier : Solid characters. Don't touch them.

(Fuck it. I'm not writing them down. Everbody not in A or C)

C Tier: Could probably use a bit of help.

D.Va
Zenyatta
Symetra

In 6 months, Blizzards internal statistics will show it. Prove me wrong.
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>>339607359
>off topic trump shilling in a video game thread
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>>339607359
>video game "shilling" isn't allowed on /v/ but shilling politicians is
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>>339588338
>Is this the most overrated game in existence?
I'm surprised anybody can say such things when the Halo and Call of Duty games exist.
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>>339608552
Must be embarrassing, the Redditesque, meme-addicted following Trump has here, Photoshopping MAGA caps onto lolis one moment then dismissing their smug power the next. Sad!
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Thank you for your guidance, OP. Because of your post I realized that all the fun I thought I was having was in fact not fun. I will promptly stop playing.
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>>339608910
>posting girls without MAGA hats
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>SJW elements thrown in

you retards would say this about literally any game
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>>339608746
Actually to be fair, I'd buy a halo game for PC in a heartbeat. I wouldn't buy a console for it though.
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>>339608746
Pre-Halo 5 Halo and CoD shit all over this turd in terms of content and features.

It's gotten pretty bad when CoD isn't the worst shit out there anymore.
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>>339588338

Overrated yes, but it's solid game. The game could use some more game modes. The game is well balanced, it almost seems like they have taken the most bullshit overpowered stuff and given them to different characters. McCree is a good example: what is the most bullshit overpowered thing someone with a deagle could have when playing cs? Aimbot. Whats the most overpowered thing a support could have in League of Legends? Aoe ress. Whats the worst thing you could possibly give a tank? Insane damage and heals.

And since every hero is overpowered, doesnt that mean the characters are balanced? I'm probably wrong, but thats the idea i've gotten from it anyway.
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>>339604997

Not really, OW manages to take aspects of other games and make it ten times worse. Case and point would be stuns, which are more easy setups than actual skill based dm. Since most of the DM is wrapped around skills instead of aiming and positioning. Theees a reason most of the tf2 plats dropped the game. The console sized aoes only make this worse and frustrate players who are used to fast paced shooters reliant on movement mechanics. Shields also slow down the game even moreso.
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>>339607359

hows chicken trump doing anyways

still running from debates?
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>>339609191
>implying [element] in [video game] isn't blatant SJW pandering
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so why does /v/ like SJW shit now?
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>>339609476
>stooping down to the level of your enemy
Don't you have another check to donate, Jamal?
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>>339588338
>people complaining about high noon
>one of the most easily neutralized ults in the game
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>>339588338
> Most of them are useless and unimaginative SJW crap.

which characters are SJW crap. excluding the obvious Zarya.
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>>339609717
>he hasn't realized that /v/ is bad at video games and therefore has objectively shit taste
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>>339607996
so you're saying being able to pay for cosmetics is worse than being able to pay for things that alter the gameplay in your favor?
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>>339588338
Never fear OP, I have already devised a foolproof system for telling if a game is overrated or not.

Did Blizzard make it?
Yes = its overrated

>>339609645
same reason /v/ is full of blizzdrones now.
They came here when the GG autists sperged out against "muh sjw" across the internet. That put /v/ on the map for reverse shilling by the same sjw GG thought they were fighting.

Ultimately GG got /v/ colonized by sjws from plebbit/tumblr/twitter and the posting here really reflects that now. /v/ is shit tier but there is nowhere else to go.
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>>339610126
Yes, since it doesn't influence game balance.
Or are you a complete scrub?
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>>339588338
Holy shit, how did I waste my money and time on this. Thanks for enlightening all of us, now we can all quit playing and play TF2
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>>339605409
I never get these complaints. I don't think people ever play the Big Bertha characters whenever they put them in games. I don't even mind beefy or muscle girls but there's no way they can make "female Roadhog" a compelling design. It's the kind of design that asks for even more bitching from these people.
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Can't wait for cosmetics to ruin this game like it did with dota and tf2
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>>339611000
Its gonna go down the path of CSGO desu
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>>339609645
>>339609786
>tumblr constantly harps on fat shaming
>Mei
>THICCCCCC MEI IS MAI WAIFU

>tumblr almost never talks about muscle shaming
>Zarya
>REEEEEEEEE tumblr get your characters out of my gaaaaaaame

/v/ inadvertently agree with the SJWs on all sorts of shit. They agree overweight women can be attractive, they hate capitalism and have deep-seated inferiority complexes. Among other things.
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>>339609895
>mfw dad put me in all sorts of sports and I still want to be the little girl
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>>339588979
McCree can melt a Roadhog at full HP in seconds flat and kill him, even while he's healing himself.

That's definitely balanced.
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>>339608237
Why Dre and Robo-monk where they are?

Educate my dumb ass.
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>>339588979
>Walk round corner
>McCree is there
>"Respawning in 7-"
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>>339611334
So? They still won't fuck us.
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>CP maps are only 2 points Attack/Defend
>no 2 point to Final point maps like Dustbowl
>no symmetric CP maps
>not even a 3 point map

This isn't TF2. This is fucking Imagine Party Babyz.
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WHOA THERE
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>>339588338
People actually play this?
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>>339588851
This. I play Pharah and I even have enough time to get back down to the ground if I'm airborne when the faggot says high noon. Straight up, everyone who bitches about this game having balance issues is just a shitty player.
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>>339590295
>buffing Zarya

You don't play Zarya, and if you do you play very little of her.

The one that desperately needs a buff is Zenyatta.

>Made of paper-maché
>Right-click is a volley charge that lasts a good 2 seconds and you have to expose yourself to land it
>All the balls now disappear after 3 secpnds of line of sight so you have to expose yourself as well to get anything done
>Lució's ult accomplishes the same thing his ult does except he's just a far superior character in general, better offense, better support
>Dies to a bodyshot from Widowmaker

This nigger is so goddamn useless not a single one of my matches has had a Zenyatta and if there is one on either team they pretty much accomplish jackshit since they are dead 98% of the time.

>inb4 autistic Zenyatta mains refute my complaints by spinning wild yarn tales

Only actual robot character besides Bastion and he's utter garbage. If they're playing the whole Omnic oppression thing then they did it very well.
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>>339588338
I know it's bait, but
>3 (really 2) game modes
TF2 started with 4 (really 2) game modes
>12 maps
TF2 started with 6
>clearly borrowed from tf2
Name one single feature borrowed frin TF2 other than payload
>SJW elements thrown in
Name one
>incredibly bad balancing (IT'S HIGH NOON)
Deadeye is a telegraphed easily avoidable ability that makes the user a huge glowing target for being killed, and it's not even what's problematic about him
>microtransactions for a $60 game
Microtransactions for something that's already easily obtainable for free in a $40 game
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>>339612362
>If they're playing the whole Omnic oppression thing then they did it very well.

Thanks anon, I laughed.
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>>339589889
Mccree, junkrat, roadhog, soldier76, torbjorn, and reinhardt are all white males, genji and hanzo too if you don't count them being japanese
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>>339612750
This guy gets it
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>>339589668
Fat acceptance pandering(Mei)
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>>339612750
>imgurshit name
>t-t-tf2 started with only a few game modes!
>problematic
>Strong womyn/empowering things that aren't white males
>replying to yourself
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>>339612362
If you can hit consistently with Zenyatta and you know how to use your orbs he's powerful as fuck

I have had several zenyattas on my team and most of the time they win us the game.
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>name one feature borrowed from tf2
Hats/Micro transactions
Support classes
Rocket """""Jumping"""""", if you niggers can even call it that.
>SJW elements
Fat exceptance but shes not actually fat its just her armor so haha it was all in ur heds shitlords LOL
Older women being relevant
Nonwhite diversity all fucking over the place
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>>339613360
Ignoring all your crying
>>Strong womyn/empowering things that aren't white males
The only thing I can think of is Zarya, but there are plenty of white males if it matters that much to you, see >>339613112
>>replying to yourself
nope
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>>339613692
>Japanese
>White
>Five white males on a cast of nearly two dozen
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>>339613680
>tf2
>inventing hats/micro transactions
>inventing support classes
>inventing rocket jumping

you are a retard
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>>339612750
The problem with game mode and map comparison is that the TF2 maps actually had some differences, such as how you could capture the points and the fact that both teams were on Attack.

All of Overwatch's maps with the same gamemode play the same. 2 points, 1point and push a cart through 3 checkpoints, push a cart 4 checkpoints, or KotH. And KotH is the only gamemode where the map makes a difference.
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McCree and Widowmaker are way too strong.
D.VA and Zenyatta are underpowered but I don't think by that much

I don't think the hero balance is that out though, its the maps.
Most of them are just flat out bad, I think the only ones that seem to have been designed well are the KotH maps.

Compare Gravel Pit or Dustbowl to any Overwatch Capture Point map and you'll see straight away massive differences in design, for a start Overwatch basically has no transition between the points, the entire game once the first point is captured exists solely around the second point, the defending team has no option to really push out, but no reason to either because the defending team have to funnel so fucking hard.
I hope any future maps they add are huge upgrades in quality.
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>>339609280

Halo 5 and even CoD out do Overwatch by leagues in terms of content. There's just a lot more there. Not saying it's better or worse but it's more than some different colors for your character.

Having a shit ton of fun with Overwatch, but I do love Halo 5.

>inb4 opinion discarded
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>Anti-SJWatch thread
>300 replies and only 66 images
Undeniable proof that the fan""base'" is made up of redditors and cucks.
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>>339613680
>Hats/Micro transactions
This is not TF2 exclusive and was not invented by TF2
>Support classes
This is not TF2 exclusive and was not invented by TF2
>Rocket """""Jumping""""""
This is not TF2 exclusive and was not invented by TF2
>Fat exceptance but shes not actually fat its just her armor so haha it was all in ur heds shitlords LOL
who are you even talking about?
>Older women being relevant
How is that a problem in any way?
>Nonwhite diversity all fucking over the place
Again, how is that a problem any way?

>>339613950
>All of Overwatch's maps with the same gamemode play the same.
That's wrong, ever map players differently
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>>339613360
Image got me a chuckle but too obvious to be a decent troll job for lefties
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>>339613950
the problem with comparing tf2 to overwatch is tf2 has had a decade of patching and additions. A comparison of launch tf2 to overwatch the only difference is tf2 had hydro where there were multiple points that could be capped simultaneously.
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>>339614125
>many OW threads getting bumped to limit on the catalog
Proof that OW is pure, unadulterated /v/. Perhaps Reddit will be a refuge from all these triggering threads.
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>how is that a problem in any way
You must be getting paid for my (you)s tbqh
>>339614298
>Proof that OW is pure cancer. Perhaps reddit will be a refuge from all these triggering image posters
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>Can't go through a day without hearing about Overwatch

I can't be the only one to just not give a fuck.

Curse you for supporting Activision Blizzard though.

No, I'm not in the opposite camp either. I'll just go and continue play my strategy games.
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I know I've asked this before, and asking in this thread will probably get heavily biased opinions, but how likely is it that this game lasts a short time only? I don't want to dish out 40 bucks and end up in a battleborn situation.
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>>339614125
One of the great praises I have for Overwatch is they keep the SJW shit to a minimum. Zarya's hair is the major annoyance.
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Regardless of its flaws you aren't wrong on the fact its one of the most overrated games in current years already. But its a Blizzard game and casual as all hell so its got everything going for it to be overrated as fuck by the masses who don't look into anything and just want something to put in after work with friends.
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>>339614402
>/v/ is cancer
I agree, fellow Redditor!
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>>339588979
I know how you feel.
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>>339614441
>Going into threads about a game you "don't give a fuck" about

About what I'd expect from grand strategy autists.
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>>339614441
You clearly don't give a fuck, yes.
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oh great, another western game promoting white genocide.
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>>339614465
>One of the *great* praises I have for SJWatch is that they didn't just combine Undertale and TF2. Zarya's hair is a clear nod to Problem hair but lets just ignore it
>>339614543
>Implicating that /v/ and reddit aren't the same thing at this point
Absolutely cucked to death.
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>>339614732
Gays didn't exist the 30s tho
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>>339614647
The robots genocided everyone bro.
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>It's another "/v/ defends badTF2 for three hundred posts at a time because it doesn't want to realize it threw money at blizzard for something it already had" episode
Muh BOOBS amirite guys?
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>>339615070
>people can't like a game for what it's worth
Ok
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>>339615070
/v/ is a casual as fuck community. Why do you think TF2 threads were 1 a day but OW gets 10 every other second? Of course those same casual retards will jump at a chance to defend the only shooter to hit in a decade they can somewhat play. OW has shooter that is objectively more shallow and easy to master then fucking COD.
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>>339614239
And Gravel Pit which is an A+B > C capture point map.
And Granary and Well which are 5-point all-attack capture point maps.
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>>339614732
I very obviously didn't ignore Zarya's hair, and the rest of the inclusion in this game is the sort of shit that Street Fighter was doing in the 90's. You're literally tumblr-level, irrationally triggered.

You're also either a newfag or have no long-term memory if you're angry that /v/ jumps all over "flavour of the month"s and spams threads to high heaven. It really doesn't sound like /v/ is for you. I'm literally suggesting you might like Reddit more.
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>>339615359
>haha you're getting angry just like my tumblr bros would lol
>still cannot post images
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>>339615070
>it's a people who hate /v/ but can't leave bumping the threads they dislike episode
I honestly have no idea what goes through your head.
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>>339615512
>I can't argue with your points but I'll take offense to the idea I use the same pathetic "career offended" tactics that the SJWs do, so I'll post that butthurt image that poutily implies that anyone who thinks I'm acting like a retard must be an SJW false flag
I literally can't BTFO you as fast as you're doing it to yourself
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>>339612362
>He can't one shot people with Zenyetta's alt fire.
>He doesn't get tanks melted with his orb of discord.
His ult is just fine. His only really awful weakness is his lack of mobility. Supports should always have good mobility both to get into situations where they can support and to get out of situations that are bad. I usually hate saying this but literally... git fucking gud.
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>>339615798
>defending SJW rhetoric, then denying being a false flag
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its the most overshilled, poorly designed garbage imaginable

blizzard is trying to hold back the inevitable blowup with the power of money, but its coming

journalists will act 'surprised' by the players reaction, but this trash will be exposed for what it is, sooner or later
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>HIGH NOON op
>Blocked by any shield in the game
>Can just hide behind a wall to avoid

No, if you want to complain about OP Ults, try Reaper or Torb. Why does nobody ever complain about Torbs Ult? It charges too easily, and the turret alone locks down an area for a good 10-15 seconds.

The fuck am I talking about though, OP probably has never played the game so who cares.
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>>339616063
How does one man become so assmad with retards he becomes the retard?
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>>339616115
>misogynist opinions
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>>339616063
>my weak, bleating responses are just being distilled into more and more pure butthurt wishful thinking
You're lucky I'm not an SJW false flag and that I just think you're a child. Because this would have been a win for them.
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>>339616235
Dunno bro, waiting on you to tell me.
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Why do people get so butthurt about Zarya? She's not SJW, she's just a tongue in cheek representation of the gruff and tough Russian stereotype exaggerated to the point where even their women are muscular
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>>339616417
>I--I know you are but what am I
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>>339616417
You're talking to more than one person my man
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>>339588338
>$60 game


It's only $40

Even for us Canucks it is only 40.
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>tries to fit in with images he saved seconds ago after being called out
>still claims to not be an sjw false flag
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>>339612750
>Easily obtainable for free

Are they, though?

Not to shit on your points or anything, the rest were very good. I'd just like some help with the last one.
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It's 40 dollars

I've already played it more in this short time so much that I have gotten my money's worth multiple times over.
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>>339598801
Protip: I'm another one of those faggots that thinks he knows about business.
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>>339615512
The extreme right is as bad as the extreme left.
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>>339616764
>paying for something that's going to be free in two weeks
Enjoy your 40$ club penguin membership skin, I guess.
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How do I be good with D.Va?
Help

please
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>>339616906
Except that the left is objectively wrong and degenerate.
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>>339615512
This is such a shitty strawman, it's embarrassing that people post it as if it has some kind of valid point

Nobody who says they're both shitty says" those fucking problematic sexist assholes"

also whoever drew this can't draw hands for shit
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>>339614732
>Playing Anubis' Temple.
>Enemy team runs 4 Torbjorn and 1 Lucio.
>Turrets vaporize anyone going through the only fucking chokepoint in the map.
>Pleading with allies to work together but they're so angry and prideful, they're all swapping characters every death thinking one character can counter that many turrets with Torbjorns constantly getting ults from feeders.
>We lose miserably and get shit talked. Feels bad.
At least I'm not Anthony Burch.
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>>339616918
If you think it's going free soon with how much it's been selling you're one hundred percent deluded.
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>>339617105
Zarya rekts torb
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>>339617016
They're both equally bad. You're delusional if you think one is better than the other.
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>>339616646
You get one every time your experience bar fills up, all that takes is playing the game normally, no need to go to any store and spend points on anything.
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>>339616920
You can't. D.Va is worst tank.
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>>339616920
Use your shields more
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it's not a bad game but it's being spammed, shilled, and pushed by blizzard extremely extremely EXTREMELY hard.
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>>339616920
wait for her to get buffed next month.
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>>339616918
T his post is so desperate it's making me a little sad
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>>339617202
She does but not 4 of them.
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>>339617262
It's not blizz it's the huge numbers of players many of which are addicted to the damn game already.
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>>339616918
>>paying for something that's going to be free in two weeks
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>>339616920
Wait for buff
Git gud
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>>339616920
You have to use map to your advantage, and you have to be decisive what who you're going for or what you plan to do. You can "sit around" like the other tanks, D.Va is target practice in long ranges, she's only viable in close range.

Evade everything, dodge, stay in cover when not harrassing/killing someone.
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>>339617357
We had 5 and Zarya charged so much off our turrets that she rekt all of us.

If it's a prob you can get more than one.
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Reminder that Winston is ripped wholesale from AT-43
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>>339617203
>Stable families, borders secure from terrorism, and economic prosperity are just as ""bad"" as women voting, transexual """rights""" and white genocide
Alright dudester.
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>>339617412
can't
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>>339616920
Learn hit and run tactics, take full advantage of her 3D movement, duck in and out of alternate paths, harrass people, get kills when you can, and come back around for another go elsewhere

Kill squishy supports

In general just git gud, she's low tier but anyone stomps pubs in the right hands
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>>339617209
But doesn't it take like significantly longer to get each level?
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>>339617469
You did not describe the red states at all.
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>>339617469
Are you a cherry farmer
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>>339588338
>Buying any video game ever
kek. I swear the shilling is done for free on /v/
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>>339617469
>white genocide
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>>339617593
<Playing video games
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>>339617469
>I AM SILLY
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>muh SJWs

I want this meme to end already.
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>>339617585
Then lets see you describe these "red" states.
Find a flaw.
You cannot.
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>>339617463
If you pay attention there are alot more Blizzard ripped from AT-43
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>>339617469
>stable families
Religious have the highest rate of divorce
>secure from terrorism
The middle east is the most extremist right and look at all the terrorism there
>economic prosperity
Trickle down theory is a myth

Like I said, delusional.
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>>339616920
just press Q
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>>339617564
Change poor for cuckold
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>>339617796
>weeeeee memes are fun XD have you guys seen this spicy new meme
>I hate /v/ why does it suck so much
>it's you guys who are Reddit not me
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>>339617876
>associating the right with islam
You are wrong.
>okay so people who get married can divorce that means your familes aren't as stable as a PC faggot couple, completely unbound by chemistry and law
Incorrect again, cuckbro.
>Trickle down theory
You must not understand it.
Do you know what smart people do with wealth?
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>>339588979
just came here to post some OC
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Why do you keep saving generic images to give me (you)s with?
Just own up to your redditumblr heritage, tranny, I'm sure you're among friends.
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>>339588832
MONTY PYTHON'S FLYING CIRCUS
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>>339618087
>there is only one form "right wing" politics in the whole world
Sasuga americans
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>>339618087
>Islam is not right wing in ways alt right fedoras can only dream of
>the fact that cuckservatives get divorced all the time doesn't mean their marriages aren't stable
>you don't understand it now allow me to ask the one question that proves I have an Economics 101 understanding of it myself
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>>339616920
She sucks honestly. Whenever I encounter a dva I'm hardly ever worried since her guns hit like raindrops.

Also her entire top half is a big headshot target.

Thanks for being an ult sponge for the other team.
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>>339618087
>he thinks the right and Islam are different
Kek

I don't get the second part, you just seem to be rambling

And Trickle down theory doesn't work, sorry. When taxes were cut on rich, the poor didn't get anything but the rich got richer while social services and infrastructure have been collapsing.
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>>339588979
McCree is actually broken. He's got no weaknesses, he works at any range, he outduels anyone.

He'd be fine if they removed his flashbang.
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>>339618217
This is great.
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>>339618265
>americashaming
I'm not sure if this is beyond your grasp, but there is Islam's """right""" and then America's right.
>>339618367
>>339618372
(you)
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>>339588979
I think a good way to balance him is to make his flash stun duration scale with enemy HP. Meaning tanks with high HP would be stunned for a much shorter duration. Making the prospect of trying to melt a tank 1v1 a lot more riskier. At the same time his ability to 1v1 squishy flankers would not be affected.
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>>339618087
I'm to the hard right and even I think you're retarded to deny Islam isn't conservative. That's one of the things I don't have a problem with them about.
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>>339617973

>Everytime i D.Va ult the team gets behind cover.
>3 times yesterday when playing vs D.Va my retard random teammates stood around shooting the fucking robot giving her play of the game each time from 3+ kills.

WHY CANT I PLAY AGAINST BAD PLAYERS FOR ONCE.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>339618573
That's some serious false flagging.
Is it such a hard concept that their conservatism isn't anything like ours?
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>>339618087
The terrorist is diehard conservative Islamists

In fact they also place a high value in stable families, securing their borders, and being against women's and transsexual rights

You two are like a match made in heaven
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>>339618492
Islams extreme right is the same as any other extreme right.
It's fuse the state back into religion, kill the heretics and change laws in order to abuse their influence while still power, and to keep it that way.
That leads to dictatorships. of course this one also applies the extreme left
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>>339588338
You are right OP. I thought I was having fun but I guess I was wrong. Should I just go back to playing dwarf fortress?
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>>339618602
If you lose a lot the game matches you with easy people to bring your win rate up to 50%.

Be prepared to play some pro smurfs after winning 1 game though.
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Holy shit november is really far away i cant wait to hang retards like these when the rope day comes
>>339618367
>>339618265
>>339618087
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>more and more people start to play zarya

fuck off and stick to reinshit
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>>339618484
thanks senpai
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>>339589198
>More will be added
So, Overwatch confirmed "Wait for the 75% off sale" status?
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>>339618856
It almost sounds like you're implying that a christian state would be bad at all, moreover anywhere near what an islamic state would be like.
>Christian dictatorships
This isn't how it works.
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>>339618940
>he thinks much is going to change at all

Is this your first election cycle? It sounds like it. Protip: elections don't change shit, Trump is a populist who is promising his voters whatever it takes, no matter how unfeasible it is. He has no actual policies on anything beyond immigration, and it's an economically/politically unsound one. Oh, and there's his economic policy which he copied from the rest of the right except he wants to get rid of all environmental protection.

Bernie and Hillary aren't going to do shit either, Bernie's a populist as well although he's got more plans than Trump does and Hillary is just another right wing candidate.
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>>339602314
wait a min this is a good idea someone get this to blizz
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>>339617469
How did Stormfaggotry get into my Overwatch discussion? Fuck off back to your containment board.
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>>339619219
What about Trump's plans are "unfeasable", cuck?
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>>339618998
zarya is useful character tho
Reinhardt is best for attack, zarya can be used to attack and defend
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>>339588338
20 TICK RATE
LOW LOW LOW SKILL CEILING
"ULTIMATES"
"MUH HEROES" - not class based in the sense that "oh, he's CQ, this guy is a sniper based class", which in sense if you're adding more heroes, you're convoluting the balancing and meta
literally made for shitters bad at videogames (wallhacks, aim assist), "kills" even though they were assist

All you can see the people who bought this game are the same faggots who buy Telltale games because they're bad at normal turn based RPGS or want muh waifus or are just complete ass and want a "safe zone" to be shit in
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>>339599335
>people trying out a free beta
>paying customers

apples and oranges
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>Shilldawg
>right wing
Either eurocucked or retarded same thing deso fampai tbqh
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>>339590295
>invincible for 2 seconds on command, getting stronger with any damage she has.

>200 health shield that returns after 5 seconds of no damage.

>2 Zaryas can shield-chain to completely fuck the other team

Zarya does not need a buff, she is fine as is, get good.
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i agree totally. worst part about the game are the shitty tumblr characters (half of them are good though), story, etc. looks like a bad pixar sjw movie.

everything else is solid though, but not enough for the price tag currently. the only thing that will make it worth it to me is if the ranked mode is very competitive and addictive.
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>>339618940
>implying the US won't be nuked by N Korea, Russia and ISIS the moment Trump assumes the position.
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>>339588338
Did the game even sell well? Can somebody provide a reliable source of the sales figures?

To me it seems that it didn't sell too well: Blizzard's been advertising the 9.7 million player open beta, but no word has been said about the actual sales.
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>>339619561
>he doesn't know Teflon Don is best friends with Putin
>North Korea
>ISIS
>Nukes
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>>339616906
wrong. the extreme right only exists because the extreme left wont leave people alone. if youre gonig to live under authoritarian rule, people would rather have forced decency than forced trannies and other shit.
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>>339619168
>any religious state
>good

Religion should be kept out of the government entirely. It's something you should practice behind closed doors, in your churches and homes. Not parliament.

>>339619306
It's economic suicide, a large source of cheap labour is northern Mexico thanks to NAFTA. Sourcing relationships with them is a terrible, terrible idea. America isn't independant and it has never been. Everything he says about breaking trade agreements and especially his stance against China are economic suicide. America is kept afloat by loans coming from China.

Not to mention the left AND the right hate him so nothing he wants to do is going to get through congress. It's going to be four years of political deadlock.
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>>339588338
the Gameplay is nowhere near as refined as the game it borrows heavily from, maybe in the future they will fix it but this is Blizzard we are talking about
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>>339619306
The fact that it's going to seal tens of thousands inside the US rather than out and the fact that the vast majority of them will never actually get deported because of lax enforcement?
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>>339619730
The extreme right and extreme left have existed for hundreds of years.
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>>339619546
>Le pixar may may.
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>>339619952
the extreme right always comes about as a response to the extreme left, such as in nazi germany. right wingers just want to be left alone and left wingers wont leave people alone. its that simple.
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>>339619808
Tip, nod, take your pick.
>PARLIAMENT
Are you enjoying those muslims, cuck?
We're talking about freedoms here, not tea and sheds.
>economic suicide
What about
>They're going to pay for it
Is there not to understand?
They helped put them across the wall we currently have, and they're going to pay to fix the problem.
>>339619920
>A wall keeps people inside and not outside
This isn't Warcraft 3.
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>>339618367
>polygamist
>expansionist
>multi-ethnic
>full of incest and women beating
>strict, nonsensical religious codes about eating habits and personal hobbies

Totally the same am I right :^)

>thinks trickle down economics is an actual thing and not just a leftist bogeyman
>somehow expects groups with lower marriage rates to have same or more divorce rates as groups with higher marriage rates

Just stop.

>>339619649
It sold pretty well apparently, hard copy retailers have struggled to keep up with demand. It certainly isn't doing bad.

>>339619808
If your economy is dependent on massive third world immigration, it should be cut down. Simple as that. Else we should just throw open every border and let every Latin American and Carribean trample the USA under its feet. That will help the economy, I'm sure.
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>>339620051
Don't forget when the left was ending slavery, giving women the right to vote, and trying to end the war on drugs.
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>>339588979
He's strong at every range
He's a close range character with a fucking hitscan weapon that has no damage falloff
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>>339620304
>slavery
>bad
>women suffrage
>good
>war on drugs
>bad
How's it goin' reddit
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>>339591357

>Too bad this was a complete flop sales-wise

Excuse me?

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/05/gamestop-overwatch-sales-exceed-expectations/
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>>339590254
>OP spreading his delusional meme perspective
>making a point
You give retards far too much credit.
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>>339620304
>believing what miss steinowitz taught you in college
kek

and right wingers made a big mistake by allowing all those things. it is killing their own people and their own nations. and as usual they will be forced to go extreme right to fix it.
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>>339620304
>Don't forget when the left was ending slavery

The left that did this would be right-wing today. Entities such as the Christian church(es) also worked towards removing slavery.

>giving women the right to vote

They also did their damned best to brainwash those same women into exclusively voting on the left too. Many civil rights for Blacks were also rooted in the same sentiment to create leftist voter blocs through minority communities. Even Lenin specifically instructed his followers not to harm the Mohammedans.

>and trying to end the war on drugs.

This is a non-issue. Care about something more consequential, fag.
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>>339620505
>suppressing women's rights, slavery, and imprisoning people for drugs is good
>claims to be different from Islam
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>>339620051
>Th-the extreme right is always in response to the extreme left.
WRONG.
>What is Islam after muhammad.
>What is English National Association
>What is Japanese Nationalism
>What is Vargas Era in Brazil
>What is Accion Revolucionaria Mexicana
>What is Blue Shirts Society in China

Come back when you're not being spoonfed by ignorant as dogshit Stormfags.
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>>339618250
Extremely underrated post
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>>339619696
Believe this: if Trump wins there are only 2 possible outcomes
>WW3
>An absolute political deadlock on US Parliament
Neither of those spell good fortune for the US
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>>339591357
Even if everyone stop playing in a month (which wont happen) i'll already had enough fun with the game to warrant a 40$ expense.

Poor poor little poorfag that is mad he cant afford playing the flavor of the month.
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>>339620824
>islam is right wing
KEK, then why is the left working in tandem with them to destroy the west?
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>>339620791
>islam doesn't like these universally horrible things, and if you also dont like them then you're also islam
Good one.
>>339620917
>PARLIAMENT
Holy niggers, eurocuck, is google already blocked in your shithole?
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>>339620917
No.

Certain problems can only be dealt with through violent elimination. And a congress that stops making laws is better than a congress that continues to make bad laws.
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>>339620210
Immigration is great for an economy and it has always been. If you want to get rid of outsourcing labour, be ready to pay 2-3 times as much for every day products without any increase in pay.

>>339620125
>They helped put them across the wall we currently have, and they're going to pay to fix the problem.

Do you genuinely, seriously believe that?
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>>339620917
>the only candidate who didnt want to go into iraq, who doesnt want to shoot down russian planes and put missiles around russia, etc. is going to start ww3 and the others who want to go to fight russia and fight everywhere in the middle east wont

nice left wing talking point friend lel
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>>339620969
Because the US left wing is composed of 85% complete morons.
Which in case belong to the 95% of the population you partake in that is completely retarded.
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God everyone who complains about this game is simply absolute garbage and too used to swiping their smartphones they grew up with as kids.

Every character in this game has a character to counter them. Every single one.

It's supposed to be a mashup of a ton of characters because each match goes long enough to allow for certain teams to rise using certain characters, forcing losing team to get their shit together and put together a better team to counter, and then they do and the winning team is now scrambling to stop that assemblage of characters.

>SJW
There is a variety of fucking characters in the game, big whoop. There's a fucking gorilla in there m8. There are some babes in there and they're not butt naked, big deal. Go to your favorite porn site and watch whatever you want for free holy shit.

I'm not a blizzdrone or whatever the fuck people call them nowadays. I've only played SC2 from them, and I barely even care about that game.

Go back into your womb and don't come out until you think about what you've done so far in life.
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>>339620969
>Thinks special interest groups adhere to strict political lines.
American public schools really fucked you up.
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>>339621127
>believe
No, libcuckold, I KNOW this.
http://imgur.com/gallery/fQcyn
Dug it up just for you, would've been harder to find if my google-fu wasn't extremely sharp.
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>>339621195
no, its because the left is a globalist ideology and so is islam.
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>>339621102
Ah yes, universal in 3rd world countries. Not in modern countries.

Shutting in the forest is also universal. Should we ban toilets too?

Like I said, the extremist right is as delusional as the extremist left. Saying women should have less rights than men is the same as saying women should have more rights.
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>>339588338
this games the best game released in years.
screw off mate. also, all other blizzard games are trash. this is like their first game ever released.
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>>339621305
>Every character in this game has a character to counter them.
That doesn't mean (you) can counter them though. Skill, environment, positioning and team make-up can always tip the favor against a counter.

There is no 'I win' button, stupid.
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>>339621352
>and so is islam
Let me put this in terms you understand
What were "The Crusades"?
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>>339621527
The extreme right refuses to even acknowledge the current state of things, and that the 'more rights' and 'better treatment' for minorities and women being demanded are being demanded to bring them up to an even balance
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>We well never have a Pixar-level graphics game
>OVERWATCH LOOKS LIKE PIXAR-LEVEL SHIT

>We will never have a TF2 replacement
>OVERWATCH TOOK ELEMENTS FROM TF2 THEREFORE IT'S SHIT

Sometimes I don't understand this board. It's like dealing with a woman who's on her period on an hourly basis.
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>>339621352
I'm not sure how that's supposed to prove you can bully Mexico into building a wall, Republicuck. But please, continue eating up empty populist walls. As history proves, these kinds of politicians ALWAYS follow up on their promises.

Not to mention Trump has proven to be such a trustworthy businessman, as evidenced by the zero lawsuits running against him for illegal business practices.
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>>339621352
Why do Trumpkin trash always say 'cuck' so much? Are they projecting? Why is it their favorite word?
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>>339621813
>empty populist walls

I meant empty populist promises.
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>>339621510
False. Globalism implies that all cultures should be blended together to create a new one. Islam requires that they be eliminated and replaced with an existing one, Islam. Both are bad but for different reasons.
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>>339621527
>Arresting for drugs isn't universally good
Call me when your kids OD.
>Women suffrage
Tbqh I can't name one thing good that's come from a majority women constituent
>>339621706
>crusades
>bad
I'll get to you in a sec muhammad
>>339621813
>what are sanctions
>he doesn't know about the plan
Alrighty Pedro, you're entitled to those hot opinions.
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>>339588338
>>SJW elements thrown in
>Big fucking whoop. Most of them are useless and unimaginative SJW crap.
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>>339621979
>crusades
>bad
And that's exactly their take on getting into war with the West. Congrats on playing yourself
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>>339621813
That's right goy, vote for Hillary. Trump may flop on his promises, but with Hillary you get EXACTLY what you asked for!
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Western civilation figuratively owes everything to the success of the crusades tbqh
>>339621893
Why do bernouts keep saying "muh 1%"?
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>>339621943
no, islam requites that they join or get their head cut off. it also requires them to go out and breed with them to spread their global take over as much as possible. globalism implies nothing except the idea of the entire globe all being part of one world order.
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>>339621352
So is this from the Mexican government or what? I get weird religious cult pamphlets all the time, does that mean the government wants me to join the church of chucklefucks? Or is this like one of the sex Ed pamphlets in middle school? People are going to do it regardless of what you say, might as well teach them to do it safely. Or are you one of those people that thinks sex ed pamphlets increases underage sex?
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>>339621127
>Immigration is great for an economy and it has always been.

Yes, "the economy" will improve. I know. But the economy can improve without our lives being improved. Please tell me how 100 immigrants getting hired to produce cheap goods for 100 000 other immigrants improves America/Europe.

>>339621706
http://www1.cbn.com/churchandministry/1400-years-of-christian-islamic-struggle
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>>339618250
best post this week. thanks anon
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>>339612256
it's not high noon that's broken about mcree you shitter
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who else is feeling buyers remorse?

i am not having that much fun anymore, and its only 6 hours in
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>>339622089
I'm sorry you aren't out of the "but what if the good guys are actually da bad guys" phase yet, Ivan, but I'm sure you'll get there.
>>339622173
Yes, it's a pamphlet given to prospective boder jumpers.
>gee are you sure these people giving me pamphlets want me to read them and do as they say? that sounds kinda sketchy iunno b0ss
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>>339622193
the economy itself actually does not improve either, because they use massive welfare, foodstamps, increase crime, etc. all of that must be factored in. governments dont like to factor these things in though because they just want to talk about GDP and the cheap labor that the companies funding their campaigns can get out of it.
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>>339622165
Yes, as I said, Islam or death. How do you suppose this global order will be run? With everyone operating however they want but somehow agreeing on everything anyway? Your culture will die under the banners of globalism or Islam, pick your poison or fight back. Everyone else won't be there to fight for you.
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HAHA YEAH BRO I ALSO SAW ANGRU JOES REVIEW HAHA ANGRY NATION!!!

The amount of threads shitting on OW is disgusting and honestly just fuck off fag :)
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>>339622473
Of course.

Funny thing is, drug trades, arms smuggling and prostitution rings actually DIRECTLY increase the GDP estimate. Really exposes how silly the "it improves the economy" argument is.
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Are we quite finished here, cuckolds?
I need to go let everyone know that the school shooter just now was in fact a muslim protesting based Milo's visit to his hellhole.
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>>339622193
>1400-years-of-christian-islamic-struggle
I know this, I studied it until I started highschool
And muslisms were killed on site if found in "christian" territory.
>>339622381
Neither side is right.
I'm sorry you still haven't discovered there are better ways to deal with adversity than killing.
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>>339616920

You need good positioning. When your Mechsuit dies, you want yourself to be in a position where you can hide, easily retreat, or are near your team so you don't actually die. Take potshots with your weapon until you get your suit back.

Your thrusters are on a low cooldown so use them as often as you can, and you can use them to push people around, and that imcludes off of buildings and ledges.
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>>339622957
>Neither side is right
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>>339622381
>don't do X
Telling someone how to not get themselves killed while they're doing something they were going to do anyways, is hardly encouraging them. The fact of the matter is our immigration policies need reform. Letting people stay here legally with no consequences is not the answer. But letting them stay here illegally, and only act like you're going to address to whip up votes in election time is even worse. If the answer to our immigration problem was easy it would've been solved by now. Mexicans provide cheap labor, and as they are illegal they don't soak up welfare like many people believe. But on the same thought, they shouldn't be here to begin with. Like I said, it's not black and white, simple decisions.
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>>339622957
It's true, you don't have to kill antagonists only remove them. Let Muslims have their own lands. Let them live in peace. But DON'T let them push you around. White countries for white men, Arab countries for Arab men.
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>>339599481
I expect this aswell.
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>>339623159
>Illegals don't soak up welfare
(you)
>helping someone do something safely isn't encouraging it
It's certainly not DIScouraging it, is it Pedro?
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>>339623240
>But DON'T let them push you around
I never said they should.
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Why does this game have so many choke points with no alternate routes?

Temple of Anubis' first area is a particularly awful example.
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>>339588338
The point that OP misses like every Widowmaker ever, is that the game is incredibly polished in all aspects. It knows what it wants to do, and it does it with impeccable accuracy and style.
It has a variety of characters, all of which have very few, but very specific skills, production values through the roof, and tight, fast-paced gameplay designed to keep you engaged with no downtime.

It's the exact opposite of the slew of "open world, thousand quests that mean nothing" games we've been suffering through, and I fucking love it to bits.

Can I have my 1,5 lootbox in payment now, Blizz?
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>>339623159
I live in NY. Many illegal families receive welfare. It is a serious problem. Innocent people struggle to find food and healthcare while tax dollars fund the livelihood of criminals. Thankfully this will be over soon.
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>>339622957
>I know this, I studied it until I started highschool

So then you'll agree that the crusades were a minor, justifiable conflict within the larger scheme of Islamic conquest?

>Neither side is right.

That's right, stay in the middle and don't oppose the side that hates your guts. (assuming you're White)

>>339623159
>But letting them stay here illegally, and only act like you're going to address to whip up votes in election time is even worse.

What a meme.

>If the answer to our immigration problem was easy it would've been solved by now.

I'm sorry, what? Congress is deadlocked and the vast majority of establishment politicians are on the payrolls of internationalist corporations who directly profit from illegal/uncontrolled immigration. That's why it hasn't been solved. Why do you think there was only token resistance to Obamnesty despite it being grounds for impeachment? THAT IS WHY PEOPLE ARE VOTING TRUMP.
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>>339623460
>with no alternate routes?
There are plenty of alternate routes
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Convince me on why I should buy Overwatch. I played in the 3 days early beta and loved it. But I can't justify paying for it though I'm on the fence.
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>>339613680

you better not be implying MILFs are SJW
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>>339623417
Okay, and how are you going to stop them? Tell them it hurts your feelings when they rape your neighbors and threaten your culture? Wait for the government, who let them in, to tug the leash back to protect you? Don't waste your time. Stand up and reject this influx of aggressors with us, or be rejected in turn for allowing this to happen once they've been dealt with.
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>>339623604
In taking back the territory? Yes
The invasions? No.
>(assuming you're White)
Literally irrelevant where I live.
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>>339623754
I don't know, anon.
Am I?
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>>339623354
I like how you disregarded everything else I said and called me names. Mexicans don't get welfare, as they are not citizens, your taxes don't go to helping paco continue his drinking habit in America. Thinking that building a bigger wall will even begin to help our shitty immigration policies and to that extent help our economy is dumb, a simple fix rarely fixes complex problems.
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>>339623831
>Literally irrelevant where I live.

Man, it's so strange speaking to someone like you who is in a completely different paradigm. I don't care about WHERE you live, I was talking about WHAT you are. Do you think it matters a damn to anti-Whites if you're a West Coast American, a Swiss or a White South Afrikaner?
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>>339623829
>Wait for the government
Yes, since mine actually knows few things more than Mr. Drumpf and his T about laws and immigration.
One of the few upsides on tourism being somewhat relevant when soaking out foreign money.
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>>339624105
My country is so irrelevant to their matters, I could not give less of a fuck about them invading.
That's what I call a different paradigm, yes.
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>>339624208
Good for you if your country isn't dealing with these problems. But mine is. However, they'll be over soon. Cheers.

Also, who said I'm in the USA? Rational people exist around the world.
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>>339623663
wait until the ranked mode comes out. the ranked mode is the only thing that can make the pricetag worth it.
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>>339621979
So ban alcohol? Because that drug is the leading killer. If you agree to ban alcohol, then that's literally Islam.

And thinking women have had zero positive impact on society just proves you're extremely delusional.
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