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Is this the new WoW killer? Legion looks like shit compared to Heavensward
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAubpv_5DYM
>2.5s GCD
Into the trash it goes
Does it still have the long ass global cooldown?
MMOs suck
>>339584803
GW2 is the only MMO worth your time.
Everything else is just copy paste WoW.
>>339584908
>>339585092
>Le 2,5s GCD maimai
>>339585603
Is that supposed to be fast? Because it isn't.
Best game feature
>>339585093
This
>>339587443
Hell yeah
>>339585603
I'll have you know that in WoW, I mash three buttons and the skills go off instantly. That's the epitome of MMORPG combat.
Waiting 4 months for content that will last 1 week.
>>339584908
>>339585092
doesn't matter if you're playing black mage
Wowee muh 2.5 gcd meme! Works everytime! REKT!
>>339584803
I don´t play FF 14 but I must say weeping city looks rad as fuck
>>339590581
>mashing
>>339584803
WoW has been dead for a long time now
>>339591892
And it's still more deep than your 2.5 second Global Cooldown
>>339584803
what's BIBI doing there?
What class should I play in 3.3?
I spent 2.0 to 3.0 playing consistently as a WHM, but switched to AST for Heavensward and got bored during the wait for 3.1, levelled half the classes to 60, unsubbed and I've now lost any sense of player identity.
>>339584803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNCCu0y-Is
>>339591164
>1 week
more like 2 days. 1 day if you skip the ex trial.
>>339590581
>I mash three buttons and the skills go off instantly
you mash 3 buttons and you only see 3 numbers floating while your character does the same animation he does for every attack. Even SWTOR has better combat than WoW where you watch in real time lightsaber clashes and blaster deflects.
>>339591164
When was the last WoW patch released? 1 year ago?
>>339584803
Is it no longer a shitty WoW clone?
Has it managed to recapture the soul of FFXI?
Does it have SAM, GEO or BLU?
If the answer is no to any of these it's still shit.
>>339592281
Play le balanced shield healer
>>339592281
WAR
>>339592970
FFXI still exists if you want to play it.
>>339592886
>real time
>>339592483
>Comparing an ingame patch trailer with an Expansion cinematic trailer.
At least compare cinematic vs cinematic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFUx6xH1VlA
>>339585191
Fuck off, that game raped everything Guild Wars did right.
>>339593047
No, no it doesn't. FFXI hasn't existed since Abyssea was implemented.
>>339592970
>FFXI
>"Good"
Nostalgiafags are truly the worst
>>339592829
Every game has no content if you skip it. How's savage going?
>>339593117
CGI wow studio (i don't think it's blizzard) > Visual works square enix
Never played FF:ARR
How easy is it to get into as a new person?
I've heard it damn near impossible to catch up.
>>339593060
Yes.
Is this worth the subscription fee? How is the PS4 version player number wise? Can I use a mouse and keyboard on the PS4 version?
>>339593348
Every even patch increases the ilvl and every odd patch makes it easier to get to the new ilvl from the previous patch. It's easy to catch up.
>>339593386
Yeah for the mouse and keyboard.
>>339593348
decently, having friends to help you clear stuff definitely helps
catching up takes a bit but they keep adding welfare patch to throw high level gear at you so you won't need much to gear up to do endgame stuff
>>339593386
yes
you play with pc players
yes
>>339593386
Ps4 plays with PC players. There's no divide.
How is it on ps4?
>>339593348
>I've heard it damn near impossible to catch up.
How? It's just the opposing.
Just play it as a new game, the people with most trouble are the people that think it's just "another wow" because it looks "similar" but the gameplay is totally diferent and aoe works in a diferent way.
>>339593386
>Is this worth the subscription fee?
Yes. The ammount of content is impressive, at least give it a shot.
>How is the PS4 version player number wise?
PS4, PS3 and PC share the servers so the population is high. Tanks and healers get almost no wait time for dugeons and DPS usually have only to wait 10 minutes for anything (except Bahamut Coil...nobody does that).
> Can I use a mouse and keyboard on the PS4 version?
Yes but you would be surprised of how confy is the game with pad. I play it on PC with the DS4, it's so good it's unreal. At least give it a shot.
>>339593386
>>339593348
There's a shit ton of story content before you ever get to Heavensward. Piece of advice though, don't buy the expansion until you hit level 50, because none of the expansion is accessible until you clear the story from ARR, however, you can proceed past the level cap when you have HW installed.
If you like lore and story, it's a great game, but the gameplay is nothing innovative. It's your regular MMO with FF thrown on top.
Also, don't freak out over deciding a class, you can switch between all of them freely once you hit level 10.
>copies everything from WoW
>new expansion literally copies the Horde
jesus fuck
>>339593348
it's very easy to start, game teaches you very slowly (and starts very slowly), which can be irritating for mmo veterans, but for me was ok. It's also quite easy to get in and catch up, even easier if you make friends who can help you. At this moment game has ~3 month patch cycles, where you either get new tier of items or make current tier more easy to obtain. It's possible to get into any content quite fast as you level up your character, just don't focus your game around itemesation itself, focus on the content.
>>339594104
ebin
>>339593507
>>339593541
>>339593569
Sweet!
>>339593761
How would you recommend I learn more about MMORPG terms and mechanics, by the way?
>>339585603
why do you trick at the end thats retarded
>>339594093
Saves me money for a while, I guess. Is Heavesword worth it by the time I can play it though?
WoWfugees will be fucking off to leigon and FF fans will be able to play XIV in peace once again.
Who hype for their absence?
>copies everything from WoW
I played 4 years of wow
I played 3 years of FFXIV
I still don't get the "WoW clone" meme. Both games are totally diferent. The only similar thing in both is that you can jump and watch other people playing.
>>339593761
>Tanks and healers get almost no wait time for dugeons and DPS usually have only to wait 10 minutes for anything (except Bahamut Coil...nobody does that).
Healers have longest wait times for almost anything at level 60. I rarely wait longer than 5 minutes for ex roulette or alex normal/void arc, but can spend about 20 minutes waiting as healer at the same time of day. Healers are just most popular classes in this game.
>>339594326
It'll be on 3.3, possibly even 3.4 by the time you reach it, so I would say yes. There will be quite a bit to go through by the time you finish 2.55. I wouldn't say double the content, but close to it.
The expansion also goes on sale for $20 every now and again, so there's some incentive.
>>339594238
>How would you recommend I learn more about MMORPG terms and mechanics, by the way?
Just jump in at the deep end and start treading water.
>>339593127
Nobody does Abby anymore. Asura is still populated. I went back after Heavensward and between the thousand QoL changes and a chill player base in their 30s on average I'm having more fun with it than I did in XIV. I do miss playing TT.
>>339594348
The way to see if a sprout player is a WoWfugee is doing Titan Hard.
>He dies because of a landslide? He's a wowfugee
WoW players have the reaction time fucked up because they are so used to DBM telling them what's going to happen in 10 seconds, they can't react quick enought withouth "sharingan" addons.
>tempted to play FF14 again
>need to buy expansion
>it's still full price
>doesn't even come with a free month
Forget it.
>>339594496
Alright, I'll keep that in mind.
>>339594497
Will I be at a a massive disadvantage if I play alone a lot?
>>339594623
>saw sprout in Titan EX yesterday
What the fuck
>>339594238
FFXIV recently implemented a place called Hall of the Novice, it goes over typical MMO terms and teaches you the basics of whatever combat role you have picked. completing all of the tutorials there awards you with full set of equipment as well
>>339594668
You can play almost all the content alone, and using the Duty Finder.
>Blatantly rehash a model from another game
>Let's just call it allagan made the WoWfags wont know where it's from
Seriously, Yoshida?
>>339594326
Plotwise is just like playing a main line FF game. Shit was so good.
The endgame is good but people will moan because it's not as "epic" as Bahamut Coil (pre-HW raid) but Alexander is ok.
>>339594668
>Will I be at a a massive disadvantage if I play alone a lot?
Not really, the community aspect only hits full swing for raids and the most recent trials at end game.
>>339594104
>blizzard now owns the word horde
Anon, please. Although, I agree they should of brainstormed a different title, but what else do you call packs of dragons?
Also, Blizzard is starting to copy FFXIV now. First it was relics and now I'm sure they'll do the same with their new raid finder and it's practice options.
>>339593348
>>339593386
If you like Final Fantasy and like to see old FF things be implemented in a theme park style game then it's a good game.
Just play the free trial faggots.
>>339594736
>>339594758
Nice. Any classes I should avoid?
>>339594785
What's the world exploration like?
>>339594238
Search for a social guild and do the Hall of the Novice quests as >>339594736 said
(easy as hell to find, NPC's with a giant plant icon over them).
>>339594770
nobody who likes FF played 13 anyways
>>339594770
Final Fantasy has been reusing sprites and stuff for a long time.
>>339594902
You can play what you want, It doesn't matter really.
>>339594770
>A FF game using other FF monsters
>New
We have the same "fauna" in FF games since FFII. References to other FF games is literally what makes this game good.
>>339594826
Sounds good.
>>339594923
I'll give that a go.
>>339595036
Sweet. I hate when one class is awful.
So I quit right before 3.2 came out, have no guild, no friends, and a day job. How fucked am I if I rejoin?
I've got a max level WM with good "for 3.1" gear
>>339595086
What server
>>339594902
every class is good at max level, but some start out slower than others in terms of fun factor
for example pugilist gets a full combo at level 6, while some other classes like lancer or rogue don't get a full combo til level 26
in general though tanks and healers have faster queues for content since they are overall less popular than damage dealer roles, but overall there's no wrong choice. you can level anything you want on a single character
>>339595101
fucking smn sch blm shiters.
honestly if you play any of these classes you should be killed dead.
>>339594624
>i played arr from 1-50
>lol give me a free trial for the expansion too
>>339592971
>using "le", even ironically
Get the fuck out of here, redditfag.
daily reminder that ast is still the worst healer.
>>339595069
enemy types =/= model recycling
I will delete my account if a pulsework knight shows up in Final Fantasy XV, protipthey wont
everything else from the 2-D games is a reference because they didn't have 3-D models to port over.
>>339595135
Leviathan
>>339585603
Ignoring how slow that still is for a moment. What's with all the blinding particle effects?
>>339592950
6/22/2015, so not quit yet. Legion's confirmed for 8/30/2016, so it'll be 14 months between the two, same length as MoP->WoD. And to top it off WoD has had half the post-launch content of MoP. An absolute fucking disgrace.
>>339595210
>best single target
>best aoe
>best healer
jelly aetherless pleb spotted
>>339595253
It's not a trial, it's "Here play the game you just bought."
>>339585603
Embarrassing. Isn't that the only class that is that "fast"? Sorry, its just not fast enough to care about.
>>339595339
>blinding particle effects
>ninja
don't play any of the casters
>>339595409
>>best healer
pfft.
>>339585092
Yes. Don't even bother, have fun with actual video games.
>>339594902
>What's the world exploration like?
MMOish. Not pure open world but the areas are SO BIG and full of life you really won't care.
Another thing the game has on the overworld are random events called "fates" where you and other players have to defeat a boss or kill a lot of enemies before the time goes out. Also there are high level monsters for Hunting with a big group.
>>339584803
>Most of the trailer is on some linear ass quest bullshit
>have to advertise new gear like thats a feature and not exspected
that raid looks cool though. I just don't fucking get Final fantasy XIV I guess. What I played of it never engaged me.
>>339595339
That's what post 2006 games have.
>>339595793
>screenshot from 2014
Anon, I like this game but come on: in most zones you'll be lucky to run into two or three other players.
It already killed WoW a long time ago
People just don't want to admit it.
>>339596083
wow killed itself
>>339596083
WoW killed itself with Cataclysm
>>339595951
The villages even the little ones always have people on it.
That screenshot might be a party of hunting.
>>339596163
>>339596142
Good point actually
So WoW killed itself and FF14 finished it off and is now eating on it's corpse
Someone should draw this
>>339595951
I constantly walk into people in most area.
Active people that greed back when you greed them. God I love Odin
>>339596232
I agree, but the blizzard kiddies will probably report bomb us for not praising their gods and their mediocre games.
>>339584803
nah the new wow killer are the free wow private servers.
>>339584908
I liked it better than WoW's. If I make a mistake I have 2 seconds to think about and reflect on how fucked I am rather than spam something else to repair the rotation
>>339591873
when i was playing, their city locales and sanctioned player housing areas are so much better than anything else on the market. limsa laminsa is the most beautiful city in a mmo.
>>339593291
Keep telling that yourself
>>339595101
I'm tired of this misinformation. I main whm and if you're intelligent you will never run out of MP. If you do run out of mp either your group is garbage or you're spamming cure 2.
>>339596689
I should point out that the weeping city is a 24 man raid, not a "city".
>>339596689
>limsa laminsa is the most beautiful city in a mmo.
Best music too. Would eat seafood, drink, and sleep with miqote wench.
>>339595101
I want to be bullied by a WHM into using Ballad.
>>339593348
Easy to get into, hard to catch up
most people who are playing now have been playing since the start so good luck finishing the ARR storyline. And yes you have to finish every single story quest in the game before you can get to Heavensward content.
Quests themselves are generic like every mmo "kill 5 bugs" but they add some variety with guildhests and fates. Unfortunately most fates are not soloable despite what others will tell you. Sure you can attack one creature and kill it, but if a pack of them attack you in the fate you're as good as dead.
Don't really get into dungeons until late in the story and the quests come to a stop until you do complete that dungeon. Most players in the dungeons though are leveling another profession so usually it takes about an hour or so to finish, and since you're a new player the whole party gets bonus xp since you've never done that dungeon or guildhest before.
Where the game gets difficult imo is the instances. You have to defeat one boss with difficult mechanics and most of the time your party are too stupid to follow them, but you have to finish it or you can't progress and if you don't progress through the storyline you don't get to the latest content. Helps if you have friends playing with you, otherwise the experience will be a slow one.
Thankfully there's guides to just about everything in the game https://www.youtube.com/user/MTQcapture in that channel
>>339596958
it's really is true. Between those 2 cinematic, no matter how you can shit about wow, the legion cinematic is superior.
>>339596689
It's too bad all the meme lords hang out in limsa
I prefer Gridania's look myself.
>tfw you just want to play an archer without all this gay ass bard shit
>>339594348
>who hyped for sub numbers to drop?
>>339597938
WoW had yet to have a better cinematic than End of an Era.
>>339595409
>SMN 50-60 quests turn them into dragon wizards
>BLM 50-60 quests are about literally nothing
Yeah I'm jealous. Even their anima weapon is called the fucking draconomicon.
I'm too addicted to BLM explosions to switch over though.
>>339597732
is there a way to get a house there instead and change the GC?
I really regret picking gridania
>>339598460
You can change grand company once a month and you can buy a house anywhere you want anyway.
I'm already bored of 3.3, holy shit!
>>339597856
its not as bad as this guy is making it seem. One thing this mmo has done thats pretty astonishing is keeping older instances and content relevent and getting people in to do older stuff via roulettes. You won't be waiting long for anything to do with story unless you're a dps and even then maybe 15 mins tops. Also anything to do with story is ridiculously easy and harder content is pretty much separate entirely (Like extreme primals or the current raid tier).
>>339598694
>wait 15 minutes
>then wait another 45 for dps queue
>then another 5 for a dungeon server to free up so you can enter
>>339594348
I wish XIV was more like Final Fantasy than WoW, especially with the summons. I wanted to be able to summon Tonberry, have him cast Chef's Knife and fuck off. Like an actual Final Fantasy summon.
Ironically, Legion Warlocks are more like summoners now that they have demons that cast one spell and leave.
>>339595101
>whm
>spam dps spells all day long
>when I am oom I simply shug an aether and heal the piddly damage the tank has gotten and go back to dpsing
I recently learned there are healer who do not dump their entire mana into damage, instead standing around useless. Why?
>>339584803
And people say the FFXI and FFXIV aren't 'mainline' games when they had the best stories in years.
>>339598859
They should simply change Rouse and Spur to transform the egis into their proper summons, getting new skills while doing so for the duration.
>>339593348
This is literally made for casuals and people with jobs that cannot play like a NEET. Just follow the story, they shit exp and gear with each main mission so as long as you don't forget to equip that gear, you are set
>>339599054
That and it's better then Metzen's wank fest
>>339599056
That Ultima boss summoned primals to cast one spell.
>>339594624
Full price? Last time checked it was like 20 bucks
>it's a paladin who doesn't use cooldowns because he "doesn't need them" episode
I swear the job just attracts retards just like dragoon and bard, at least most retards who flocked to DRK gave up after a few levels and stopped embarrassing themselves.
>>339599545
every job attracts retards for different reasons
DRK, NIN and WAR are usually the worst
>>339599646
I can't remember the last time I had a NIN in my group. Everyone switched to MNK it seems.
>>339599646
DRG too, almost forgot
>>339598924
As a Tank my healer won't be just standing there with full MP. If I see them doing this I don't use mitigation skills and stand in a few AOEs, so that they they burn the mana by healing me, no one should slack at their job when I'm tanking, if they say something I respond back by saying, oh you look bored back there just standing
>>339599646
No way, pld, brd and whm are catboys magnets.
“I am a shadow… The true self…”
>>339593348
As some one who wasnt at all interested in FF series FFXIV manges to blow WoW out of the fucking water because I actually get to use buttons not have a million fucking passives
>>339599646
PLD attracts the actual white knights.
DRK attracts emo edgelords.
NIN attracts Narutards.
BRD attracts the turbo-casuals.
DRG attracts BRs and edgelords, though most of those moved on to DRK.
WAR attracts egotists and people who'd rather be playing DPS but play WAR for the shorter queue- expect them to be in DPS stance 24/7 and make your healer's life a living hell.
Did I miss any?
>>339600282
You forgot most casters
>>339600282
Figured PLD attracts people who wanted ez tanking or just a class that uses swords.
>we fixed mudra in 3.1
>fast for one good week
>now slow as ever
>no one is saying anything, pretending it's still fixed
>>339600425
A blind spot I suppose. I mostly play casters so the percentage of retards in my caster lineup is a bit lower.
>>339600483
It's mostly 14 year olds trying their damndest to get some virtual pussy by being a yes man to any female that acknowledges their existence.
>>339600282
BLM attracts autistic tryhards who stand in aoes because muh leylines and enochian
Haven't seen a SMN in ages
>>339600531
I finished leveling NIN to 60 about 2 weeks ago. Mudras are fine.
>>339600531
I haven't touched NIN in a bit but it was working great for me in 3.2
>>339600282
>>339600483
>>339600613
I've been playing blm for the last two years and I was thinking of breaking into tanking. Who ironic paladins here?
>>339600804
I got pld to 60 because fast queues are addicting, but endgame tanking is too stressful
>>339586393
Why doesn't my Final fantasy play like quake?
>>339600613
I haven't met any PLDs who did that, doesn't seem like a class-specific thing to me.
>>339600804
BLM main here. I don't know much about PLD other than the early levels are shit. You don't even get your tanking stance until 40. I went with DRK, aoe enmity management is piss-easy. Thought about trying PLD again sometime soon just for shits and giggles.
>>339600870
Oh, I just want to do roullettes and fill the tank gap when friends are on
>>339600613
>play a female character
>had multiple people who main plds try to give me flowers and shit
Pretty sad tbhfam
>>339599646
PLD players are by far the biggest shitters ive ever met. I almost always get PLD in DF and 9 times out of 10 they OT in sword oath spamming halone, and they run around lost as shit when they dont MT because apparently putting on sword oath and using royal authority wih goring blade every now and then is a lost concept to them.
>>339601041
then go for it
tanking levelling dungeons is piss easy
>>339593605
good. Controller rotations work surprisingly well
Is the pvp scene in this game picking up speed? I remember seeing a patch that encouraged pvp or something like that. I always wondered if it could get on its legs. I like the aesthetic of this game but enjoy pvp in my mmo's.
Also I'm aware of the 2.5s gcd and that sounds disgusting ion pvp ._.
>>339600870
Agreed.
I always end up criminally underestimating myself when I do harder and newer stuff due to my lack of gear.
But jesus fucking christ some of these tanks that play are braindead, I've lost count of how many times I've had to pick up the harder stuff when the raid geared tank ate shit and whiffed everything. Its fucking embarrassing how bad they tank at times.
I always get the jitters when I head into a new fight with fresh info on how to do it, gotta live up to that "fearless and perfect leader" role that all tanks are required to be nowadays.
>>339599646
>>339600613
>>339601240
As for all the class stereotypes, not all PLDs are rage of halone spammers or whiteknight "yes men".
Same for DRKs being edgelords with macro binds to all skills and WARs being assholes and only caring about DPS instead of survivability
Sadly, they are stereotypes because they happen frequently, just don't judge everyone before things get going.
BLM or SMN for general use?
I just want to have fun casting magic.
Man, I've been out of the loop a long time, people used to hate getting WAR and DRKs, and would be surprised if they ever saw the elusive and rare PLD tank. (I was all 3, since I actually love tanking)
Seems everyone hates PLD, and sees PLD all the time now.
>get a newbie ice mage in thousand maws
>Explain how astral fire and umbral ice work
>he says OK and awkwardly fumbles around with the order of spells for the rest of the dungeon
But at least he changed something right? I want to believe he figured it out after the duty was over.
>>339601592
Do you want to gitgud and try to play your best to get the best results? Go BLM.
Do you want decent results without too much effort? Go SMN.
>>339601656
The class/job hate gets passed around all the time.
>>339601668
The seeds were strewn at the very least.
You did a good thing.
>>339601575
PLDs and WAR fit that category a lot more than any other class. DRK earned the title of edgelord just because of the job itself, at least they as of right now are clean of actual stereotypes.
>>339601656
Who hated getting WAR or DRK in DF? People just hate PLD in DF because they do no damage and are generally clueless with cooldowns.
>>339601712
Honestly, the rest of what was said has generally been true for me, since the beginning.
(Except BRDs, as they started off as ARC, and were typical wow huntards, until they were given cast times, to get them to behave.)
>tfw people thought this map was a joke image when it was unearthed three months ago in the game files
>leveled pld to 60 in full str in sword oath.
Fuck bad healers.
>>339601847
Is this FFXIII?
>>339601240
they also a lot of times act like "star tanks" and everything rounds around them.
typical ex roulette scenario with PLD with nothing but weekly tomes items
>pld loses aggro to mnk on random monster
>starts yelling at him to not overagro
>ranged guy accidentally pulling ahead
>healer dpsing
>pld goes all crazy about how everyone is shit and will wait in queues for ages for tank
any dps can tank this shit dungeons without problems even if he leaves or gets kicked
>>339601941
I'm more surprised if you actually manage to hold aggro
>>339601831
When HW came out, all DRKs and WARs didnt use their tank stances, and wouldnt use CDs, as they were in all STR, trying to max their leet deeps.
PLDs were known to be the only tanks who actually used CDs, and in worst case scenarios, at least had tank stances on, and could hold hate (despite how much harder it was for them at HW release)
When I leveled up DRK, I had many ppl groan at having another DRK, but then they would all start a conversation, mid battle, to praise me for actually using my tank stance on big trash pulls. (Had a few try to tell me not to use it, on bosses, when im undergeared, but then they saw the error in asking that when I complied.)
Same with PLD, the moment i zoned in, everyone said "Oh thank god, its a PLD, and not a GD DRK, or WAR!"
It literally was 99% of all groups as I dungeoned my way up.
>>339601847
>Void Ark 2
>a supposedly huge area
>really just a bunch of disconnected arenas with warp points "connecting" them
They can't keep getting away with this
>>339601998
No. XIII didn't use circular platforms connected by lanes as frequently.
I'm gonna pick up AST.
With the EXP ring and 100% armoury bonus how long is it going to take to get Swiftcast and Stoneskin?
>>339602125
>PLDs were known to be the only tanks who actually used CDs
Hell no they weren't
>>339584803
>Legion looks like shit compared to Heavensward
Well HW is already out and so far it's been a trainwreck
>>339602121
>I'm more surprised if you actually manage to hold aggro
not him, but it's quite hard to not hold aggro, because most of playerbase so shit, that you can burst some aggro on the start, change to dps stance (or just drop grit if you're drk) and noone will ever come close at aggro even if you just spam full dps combo, except that healer that spams medica 2
>>339602127
It'll be pretty boring unfortunately.
>>339602125
>pld
>hold hate
>>339601592
BLM starts being fun when you get your proc abilities and fire/blizz III. As of 50 your main job in dungeons is to flare everything into oblivion. Your greatest joy will be to see tanks gather up as huge a pull as they can for you to explode into nothingness. This changes the instant you hit 60 when the SMN steals your job and does it weird, they only have one explosion they can use every once in a while and the rest dies to dots. Your new job is to explode a single target over and over again, micro-manage several several timers, and never move. You get huge DEEPS and get to feel like the greatest wizard if you can do your new job well. There's also nothing quite as wonderful as two or more good BLMs having their rotations sync up.
Not sure about SMN. I could never really get into it. 50-60 is different and your class quest ends up being pretty neat. In the end it's a question of whether you want to explode everything all the time or become a dragon-wizard. Maybe I'll look at SMN again when it gets egi-glamours.
>>339601847
Is that a case of PS3 limitations that they can't make one big area?
>>339602251
If you got someone to boost you through the hunting logs and have a decent amount of people still doing low level fates you can have it done in maybe 2 hours or less, I went from 19 up to halfway through 21 in just 1 low level roulette as well.
>>339602340
My memory of DRK might be bad atm, but doesnt dropping grit take a GCD? or is it just putting it up?
(If it takes a GCD, it will do less dmg taking it off, and or slow the over all run down, if not done between fights.)
PLD generates a lot more threat currently, but it goes back and forth from generating too much, to generating too little.
It always seems like the patch I'm on, is the patch their threat is nerfed, as I'll read everyoen saying threat is drastically lower than the prior patches, and then after I quit, I'll read people asking if threat was raised, because it got easier.
Granted it might just be their opinions, as I dont keep up on patch notes myself, to double check.
>>339601575
>gotta live up to that "fearless and perfect leader" role that all tanks are required to be nowadays
They're just required to not spit out their dummy when shit doesn't go to plan.
>>339601847
W-well maybe the bosses will have some interesting mechanics
>>339601668
It's a start, and you caught him early. I've had to teach BLMs from 30+, often 50+. You did good.
>>339602606
No, it's just designed it around time/budget expectations. Easier to make a dungeon like that which reuses a lot of the model assets you create for it.
It's also why a good chunk of Antitower was just 2d textured planes floating in space. Speeds up dev time despite it being BORING AS FUCK for the viewer.
>>339601575
>fearless and perfect leader
>mfw I am just that as healer
A stern hand and the ability to type quickly is all that is needed to bring most groups up to snuff.
>>339602014
>"star tanks"
Oh god don't remind me
That staple is so fucking annoying to deal with as a tank because I'm humble as fuck, try my darnedest to be helpful and keep moral high at the low points. Even moreso when you're stuck with one as a partner.
>He tanks like shit
>Gets called out
>"You can't kick me! You'll have to wait hours for a replacement!"
Its like dealing with fucking spoiled brats that didn't get any discipline growing up.
>>339601656
The only tanks I hate are idiot DRKs.
An idiot on the other 2 jobs is much more manageable and easy to work around (as a healer) than the retard DRK.
>>339602714
>New experts end up being easier than the previous two experts which were the easiest the game has ever seen
>Pulls now limited to two enemies max
> Any time a tank tries to pull more the extra adds just hang back and wait to jump in when you kill another mob
>Still have to kill everything to open the gated passageway
>Enemies do so little damage a tank could solo the zone using healing CDs
>Still takes 20min for scrubs because of terrible rotations and HP bloat
>>339602714
>interesting mechanics
Only interesting thing in the current antitower roulette is whether the healer will fucking esuna the stun on the first boss or not.
>>339602575
I've already gotten BLM to 54 and SMN to 52. I'm just not sure how I feel about how tight the rotation is compared to other jobs. I tend to like the ability to move around so I guess SMN is kind of the answer.
>>339602919
>dispell the stun with impeccable timing
>DRK still stands in the AoE
>"Free mana regen, lolz!"
>die inside
>>339602827
I'm going to marry Y'shtola!
>>339602641
Thanks. 2 hours sounds pretty quick for getting Conjurer to 34 though.
Nonetheless I'll ask someone in the novice network to merc me the hunt log kills then.
>>339602827
As a tank, I'm not fearless. Not from game mechanics/enemies, but from other players, and their constant complaints.
As a healer, I'm like "LEEERRRROOOOOOY!"
And dont care what peopel say, and it's so weird why I'm a completely different person.
Too bad I find healing boring in most MMOs, and have only found 2 healers I actually find fun.
(DNC in FFXI, and MNK healers in WoW)
>>339587443
>>339590403
this is why i dont play the game, it only took 10 posts
this game is a degenerate playground for furfags and waifufags
>>339603059
Go away Alphinaud you're still useless
>>339602575
>Your new job is to explode a single target over and over again, micro-manage several several timers
Enochian, the circle thing, and the archer buff?
>>339595376
why does blizzard think it's acceptable to make it's players wait one year for anything, and better yet why do the people who play keep on putting up with it
>>339602908
>Pulls now limited to two enemies max
Preventing speed runs is honestly the worst change. Still remember how much fun it was doing wanderer's palace normal in 3 big pulls.
>>339602827
Hats off to you friend, I love it when other classes take the leadership initiative for once.
I don't really mind doing it, but its nice letting someone else do it for once.
>"A stern hand and the ability to type quickly is all that is needed to bring most groups up to snuff."
Reminds me of when I did early CT and accidental pulls happened all the time on behemoth king.
Had to tank and explain everything mid-fight, and we actually beat it.
Did that fucking place 57 times in a row for 3 days just to get my hands on the warrior of light chest piece. So the strats were down to a T for me.
Heavensward was great but the patches that followed were absolute garbage.
Just kill me already senpai.
>>339585191
literally who?
>>339603069
I doubt you'd get to 34 in 2 hours, getting blm to 26 might be doable in 2.
>>339603214
Casuals whine they can't keep up with the basic-level of competency needed to speedrun.
You always felt like a fucking boss if you ended up with a tank and healer that could managed the three mob-pack pull in WPHM when the average group would struggle with two just due to how long the pull was, and rouding up everything at the end.
>>339600282
MNK attracts OPM and Hokuto no Ken memesters.
>>339595339
that shit is all over the combat, gets downright blinding at times. GCD sucks but it doesn't feel too bad in game. The game as a whole is just boring as fuck though, so little content, real content patches now come once every half year.
>>339602014
>tanks crying about not being able to hold aggro
I'm not going to gimp myself because you can't do your job.
Then again, I'm the kind of BLM who doesn't use quelling strikes.
>doing fractal
>tank already loses aggro to my openers during bosses
>just pop mana wall, take tanking position and continue until tank recovers aggro or I die
>next boss coming up
>cheeky fucking AST drops a balance card on me and time dilates
>mfw I use raging strikes and ley lines on top of it
Good times. I felt a little sorry for the tank. They like being pressured anyway, right?
>>339602997
Yeah, if you like to move do not go BLM. BLM do not move, and their rotations are not very forgiving.
>it's a jam boy thinks he's the leader episode
>>339602875
Personally, having purposefully trying to do the least amount of work, the tank that can do the most, with the least effort in leveling content (not endgame) is DRK.
Put on grit, and spam unleash (or even flash)
You hold more hate than all 3 tanks, w/o needing to look at the screen (this was in all VIT gear, back when it didnt help with your dmg.) and you get your tank stance sooner than a PLD.
Every time I got whiney people in Duty Finder, I'd swap to pure VIT gear (If I was under geared, then I had VIT on to begin with), and purposely just spam until the dungeon is over. (usually using flash, just to make it take longer, and annoy them more)
Though DRK does lack CDs for a long tiem, and instead has to actively react to procs from parry, and lower enemy dmg, and stun the mob that will be 1st to die.
But it's not needed, it just helps healers DPS, rather than just only using heals.
>>339594693
i've seen sprouts up to level 56
>finally finish ARR's post-2.0 MSQ's
>gosh that was a fun ride at the end
>kick off the first heavensward MSQ
>mfw alphinaud's new va
fuck
Sam Riegel why
>>339593348
Don't worry about playing catch-up that's a recipe for getting burnt out and quitting before you even get to what you want to do, just take the game at your own pace.
>>339603224
>Heavensward was great
It really wasn't. The story was an improvement over 2.0's but that's it. At least it was better than 3.1
>>339594624
hardly any mmo expansion comes with a free month
>>339594770
can you link the original?
>>339594693
to lose your bud you need 168 hours of playtime and to complete 2.55
>>339603382
If I like to move and murder things what's the best for me?
I have MCH at 60 and I played it a lot but honestly I couldn't get the opener down and it discouraged me as I like to perform very well.
I cleared all of the 2.x raids on DRG/MNK so I'd prefer to avoid melee again.
>>339603516
lvl 55 warrior sprout here
when does this thing even go away?
>>339602125
>PLD
>good at holding aggro
>stories about people praising tanks
>>339603646
bard pre wanderers minuet
>>339602125
You sure most of that wasnt in your head? no one liked or likes having a PLD in a party let alone two of them.
WAR was pretty overhyped in 3.0-3.1 because you knew it was going to be a fast run and there wouldnt be issues with hate. DRK was shit in 3.0 until it was buffed and in 3.1 they got their act together, now they are doing alright.
PLD hasnt changed since 2.x. They spam nothing but halone in shield oath, dont even attempt to DPS and dont use CDs because "I dont need them right now"
>>339594902
everything is pretty ok to play as,i will say every class has skills they can use from other classes so it's pretty mandatory to level up multiple classes for certain things
Mika Mirkas, I know you're in this thread you memeing faggot. Are you still shitting up Adamantoise?
>>339603172
Enochian, ley lines, astral/umbral, all your CDs, your procs. Mostly you cannot allow enochian to fall off before it goes off CD, because fire does shit damage compared to fire IV, and you can lose enochian either to the buff running out, or accidentally dropping astral/umbral since fire/blizz IV don't refresh it. This is why BLMs hate moving, literally anything that isn't part of their rotation puts enochian at risk.
>>339603713
I mean at 60 endgame content though. I've got BRD at 52 and realized that I'd rather just play MCH even if I'm poor at it than stick with that crap.
>>339603646
MCH is actually pretty mobile if you manage your ammo well. But if you struggle with the opener it can be pretty frustrating.
>>339603382
>Then again, I'm the kind of BLM who doesn't use quelling strikes.
You should on bosses at the least because a competent BLM is going to rip hate off any tank due to their insane opener burst.
>>339594770
Makes sense that Allafag technology looks like 13's.
>>339603813
no such thing at 60. brd/mch are casters and can't move
as a bard turned warrior, i look forward to them removing WM and just giving a flat dps increase to bard
>>339603608
That is the original. Pulsework Soldier from FFXIII
They got renamed to Clockwork Soldier in FFXIV. FFXIV has ripped models from FFXI, XII and XIII
>>339603682
It used to be 40 hours, but now it's something like 400?
>>339603838
Is there an easy way to break down the opener?
>>339603926
Once I got into the rotation with MCH I felt like it was mobile enough to sate me, I just struggle with the opener so hard.
>>339603926
>60 mch
>only spell you have to 'cast' is your first shot
>all other shots are instant with ammo or proccs
>if you have neither good MCH will simply take off their Gauss Barrel for a moment
Honestly, when it comes to ranges classes MCH has most mobility, hands down.
>>339603808
maybe if BLMs stopped using swiftcast in their rotatation instead of saving it when they need to refresh enochian / fire / blizz it wouldn't be a problem
>>339584803
Oh my fucking god, my sides left the orbit.
Cutscenes will not make the game infinitely better, fix all the fucking flaws such as its laughable tick rate, or make me go back.I stopped playing because combat is extremely awful, started playing monopoly to craft/gather and RMT. I no longer RMT.
>>339603382
>They like being pressured anyway, right?
I cant speak for everyone, but as long as they aren't doing anything "underhanded" to "win at deeps".
If your rotation/skill actually pulls threat from me, no big deal, unless I'm required to not exhaust my resources for an endgame boss phase.
But if its like WoW huntards, who sprint ahead of the group, when there's 2 mobs left, just so their AoE can hit 3+ mobs, and then claim they had the highest DPS, then I'll get pissed. (Which is pretty much every single dungeon in WoW, and roughly 50% of runs when ARCs havnt unlocked BRD yet, they just want to be 1st to start hitting enemies, so they can brag about their 2% higher dps from the rest fo the group...)
>>339603942
A good 50% of XIV's enemy models are ripped from XI. It's rather sad since some of them blatantly stand out without any touched-up textures (they generate a quick and dirty specular map for some and that's it)..
>>339595339
Eyecandy bait
>>339602575
Can't wait for Ala Nhiggo and the super ability bloat it will bring.
>>339604074
This is what I do. I usually as a last ditch effort to swiftcast Blizzard IV if I have to move too much
>>339595951
I'm a relatively new player on Shiva and I never had the feeling the servers were anything near dead.
Constantly run into people to the point where it's sometimes annoying even.
>>339603682
I've seen it on level 60s in Antitower. They recently made it stay longer because the devs thought 40 hours wasn't long enough as a new player. They're right, really.
I'm not sure how long it lasts now, though.
>>339603696
I even said they had it worse, or do you not even into reading m8?
>>339603493
It's a good job populated by an immense amount of shitters.
I was not commenting on the road to 60 and the shit they go through.
When I have to sit there and cure spam to keep them alive, something is wrong. This happens a lot, through tank stance no less.
A shitty WAR and a shitty PLD can still be kept alive with nothing more than Tetra/Regen and the occassional Cure II if Tetra isn't back up.
Compared to shitty DRKs where I'm actually forced to Benediction the cunts, with no sign of Living Dead, if I want to dps or sit there and spam heals because for some fucking reason they manage to take like 400% damage from everything.
I know good DRKs, they can be fucking incredible. When it comes to the idiots, if they're on DRK it's just depressing from start to finish.
>>339604172
Did you notice that the mammets in Antitower use the Tarutaru frame?
>>339592046
But not as dead as FFXIV. I remember seeing queues on my server 6+ months ago. Now I'm lucky if I see more than 2 parties in party finder
>>339603598
>The story was a lot better than 2.0 aka Return to the Waking Sands Simulator.
>Better new characters and improvements to old ones (Fuck you Scions).
>Maps are bigger and fun to explore as a result.
>I liked a few dungeons.
>Some 50-60 skills and changes to old skills are questionable and make me sad (rip flare and holy).
>Crafters/Gatherers get fucked in the ass.
I liked 2.0+its patches more in gameplay and content, I'll admit. I just think 3.0 is solid too.
Fuck everything past 3.0 though
>>339594348
I played WoW for years and FFXIV is the least Final Fantasy game I have ever playedImplying anyone gives a shit other than those in damage control, sperging "wowfugee boogeyman"
>FFXV will never have half the personality that FFXIV does
>>339594348
>Who hype for their absence?
So hype because game will finally have less than 100k subs?
>>339604296
How do I maximize my defensive cooldowns on a WAR
I switched to WHM to try and figure out what not to do as a tank
>>339604535
>FFXIV
>Personality
It's literally just "HEY REMEMBER THIS THING FROM [Other game]?????"
>>339596232
FF14 did nothing but kill itself.
>>339604713
And that changes his statement how?
>>339604535
Jesus she looks fucking disgusting.
What did they do to her?
>>339584803
It looks good, too bad it will be exactly like pic related such as every other update. I give you 2 weeks before people give up on that patch, then see you again in 4-6 months.
>>339604737
>>339604623
>>339604713
This can only be so accurate, it hurtsto laugh.
>>339604978
Can't have half of zero.
>>339604323
Not paid too much attention, but they use their own build and animation rigging.
>>339604535
What is this hideous thing? Stella looks like this now?
>No one does Bahamut
I just want to take photos of the vistas.
Anyone else here use controller on PC? Its so damn comfy.
At this point I don't think I could ever switch over to mouse and keyboard even though its "better".
>>339603804
Last I heard Mika was on Excal
>>339605513
I don't get how people can use a controller for this game. It feels weird to play a MMO with one. Especially when it comes to targeting and such.
Christ, every time I boot up this game I can feel the boredom seeping in.
>>339605770
Man, you haven't lived unless you've done alt-tabbed fishing with a rumble controller while watching anime/series/movies.
the entire fishing sequence macro bound to a single button press that you just have to keep pressing when it rumbles.
Comfy as fuck.
>>339605915
the 2.5s global cooldown puts me to sleep too
>>339606168
for real?
I just have all the sounds turned off except fishing noises when I alt tab
>>339606196
Stop playing pld then.
>>339585191
>Shit Wars 2
>Being worth anything
>>339598410
Don't forget
>Spend 5 patches trying to kill ONE Ascian with a bunch of story relevant people helping you
>SMN lv60 quest
>You kill FOUR of those mother fuckers by yourself
>Summoner's face when BLM plebs
>>339606335
Fishing is the only thing in the game I use controller for. One-button macro, crossbar set to hold so I hit R2 once, and then hit X once to cast a rod, and then again to reel/mooch it.
>>339606404
>suddenly shit goes down and you have to pay attention and time all of your precious 46328946289 buffs or eat shit
>>339606404
I'm a lancer
Literally mash one button until level 30
Anyone know a really good Monk opener? I'm not sure if I'm playing it correctly.
I'm about to get my 2nd 50 so Ibcan swap between classes.
Is Heavensward worth it?
>>339606574
Wrong, you must smash 2
>Not using heavy thrust
>>339604636
Don't use Raw Intuition unless EVERYTHING is in front of you. You can use it with Awareness to negate the downside but leaves you without the upside (can't parry/block unless it's in front of you)
Thrill and Beast are great for tank busters when paired. You can throw in Vengeance too if tank busters are inferquent (it's amazing how many bosses WAR can actually do this for every buster).
Vengeance and Bloodbath on large packs. Bloodbath in general is just fucking awesome.
Foresight and Convalescence pair decently. Convalescence is decent in its own right and Foresight, while poor overall, is a fairly short CD so use it often.
Don't pair Venegeance and Foresight, effects are multiplicative not additive.
Liberal use of Equilibrium, even if a heal comes in at the same time. No healer should get mad at that. If you're consistent with it, I'll start planning around it.
Why is playing healers so fucking stressful?
I made my team wipe last night and I almost had a panic attack.
Guess I should just stick to DPS.
>>339606657
Form shift to coeurl, demolish, perfect balance, snap, snap, blood for blood, dragon kick, internal release, twin snakes, elixir field, snap, howling fist, touch of death, steel peak, bootshine, shoulder tackle, true strike, forbidden chakra, demolish
>>339607058
The DPS make my static wipe more than my own input error or falling asleep at the wheel.
>>339606657
Demo 2xSnap DK TwS Snap ToD Chakra BS TrS Demo
Throw in B4B and IR somewhere before ToD so they last you through reapplying demo at the end and use your other ogcds where you can while you got all the buffs.
>>339607058
>cast regen on tank
>finger my asshole
wow so difficult
>>339606476
>SMN can solo FOUR fucking Ascians
>Garuda still laught at us when we command her to use Contagion
>>339584803
will 3.3 fix the vertical progression grind?
>>339607058
You have to learn how to deal with panic healing.
Best way to learn how to cope with it is by doing more heal intensive fights or PvP.
>>339607058
I feel you man.
I always try to offheal while tanking as a PLD when both healers are either busy or on the run.
I fucking love Clemency so much, easily my favorite PLD skill, especially since it has the best PLD feeling/theme, just like cover (shame bout the range though).
It has saved more runs than I can remember by now, fucking clutch heals.
>>339607134
That's the thing though.
DPS isn't pulling their weight so I have to spend most of my time chipping in and/or fixing their booboos from AoEs.
>>339607218
Healers are expected to DPS nowdays
>>339607074
>>339607152
many thanks
>>339607058
Healing isn't stressful. Tanks aren't made of paper.
>>339598410
>I'm too addicted to BLM explosions to switch over though.
>Have SMN and BLM 60
>While playing SMN I miss the BLM single target burst damage
>While playing BLM I miss SMN's mobility and impressive aoe damage.
The struggle is fucking real.
>>339605770
i use it when mining since im only pressing a few buttons anyway
>>339607508
You say that, but then the dragoons and ninjas are playing hopscotch with the AoEs
>>339607058
>healthbar whack-a-mole is stressful
casual healers everyone
>>339607508
all the dps has to do is avoid attacks and know their rotation
they're simple
>>339606476
>First lvl52 SMN quest
>"let's summon Ramuh and get his egi!"
>"LOL NOPE!"
>Hours later reach lvl60
>"Let's summon Bahamut for the lulz and see if now we can get a cool egi!"
>"LOL NOPE AGAIN!!"
Fucking PS3 man.
>>339607792
If you're only paying attention to the health bars you're a shitty healer.
>>339607796
I main white mage. It isn't complicated either.
>>339607657
I don't remember when I last played with a party so incompetent it actually made healing stressful, and I've played with some pretty incompetent parties. Just drop Asylum on the tank and the melee dps and Tetragrammaton or Swiftcast when someone fucks up and you need to heal quick. Only a shitter would find healing stressful.
>Typing on PS4
>>339607792
>"I only play duty finder!"
The post.
>>339608018
are you really complaining about fucking tera flare
>>339608595
Things that can't be found on DF are stressful on all roles.
>Greased Lightning IV confirmed
I want to get off this ride now
>>339608770
>playing MNK
your fault retard
>>339607420
Only problem is a single mistake in Midas progression from anyone needs a full wipe.It kinda still does even in full i240. A8S is fucking mechanics dancing tedium despite robots phase being a joke w/ 3 DPS having i245s.
>>339608770
Dont fucking tell me they are adding more skills
>>339608770
>Mfw Greased Lightning IV
Monks confirmed for Super Saiyan?
>>339609019
>MNK gets GL4
>MNKs in DF still hitting Tornado Kick at GL3 in expert when it's a total DPS loss there
>>339609019
>>339608770
If we get GLIV I'd be pissed because it means the inevitable nerf of SS once again.
>>339608658
Nope, I'm complaining I wanted the SMN to be more about "Summon" and not poisoning things. lvl50 to 60 skills were ok, using Bahamut's power makes me feel more like a SMN but, ya know....we lack more Summoning and that's because the PS3 couldn't bear it. Our LB should be summoning any primal we killed and not a flashy (but cool) fire attack.
pd: love the wings when doing my LB, pic related.
Sorry, the game has to actually be compelling on a pop culture level to be the new "WoW killer". That term was coined over 10 years ago and has yet to even remotely scratch the surface of reality. Delusional plague vermin who legit gets hyped for a fucking patch to an overall decent game, calling it a fucking "WoW killer" should just "patch" their fucking neanderthal brains.
>First run through Fist of the Son
>>339609185
Is there anything that ISN'T PSTriples fault with this game?
>>339608770
>>339609019
If monks get upgraded greased lightning, can ninjas get the 4th mudra too?
>>339609441
Pretty much every negative effect can be attributed to it being on a decade old console. They had to make it wprk somehow.
>>339607058
>Be SMN
>Join for Midas duty finder
>It's the one you have to turn into a gorilla and kick the bomb away from the party
>Did it x100000 times
>"Don't worry people, I will do the bombs part"
>"Shouldn't a healer do it...you will lose DPS"
>"Don't worry, I'm SMN :) "
>3rd round of bombs
>Because of fucking reasons I zoned out
>FUCK FUCK FUCK RUN TO THE MIDDLE AND TRANSFORM INTO A GORILLA
>Punch 2 of them away
>FUCK FUCK FUCK
>I'm so nervous I punch the 3rd bomb to the whole raid
>Wipe
>Leave the raid and close the game
This was 3 days ago and I'm still embarrased.
Will FFXVII Online give us real-time MMO combat?
>>339608018
Honestly, I think I might have preferred if they dropped egis and instead all summons were trances and then focused on that instead.
Apparently Shatter is launching in 3.3 although they said earlier it would be in 3.35?
Rip feast ques holy shit.
>>339609803
MMOs are dead. Literally a dying genre.
>>339609828
YES! That would be great.
>>339609902
I just want FFXIV but with less bullshit.
>>339609470
why dont ninjas have a 4th mudra weren't they talking about some hidden forth mudra during one of the nin story quest?
>>339609470
What now? There are only man, heaven and earth are far I know.
We only need duality to CRIT.
I think this guy raises a few good points on the genre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtQELdCcWGU
>>339609441
I don't think it was the PS3's fault they used egis. There's 2 reasons I remember them using:
>WoW gameplay requires you to see the floor all the time to dodge shit, so we can't have a massive primal there
>They wanted FCs to be able to summon primals but like half the stuff they talked about pre-release it never actually came out and all they've said since then is that it's on the back burner, just like addons
>>339610060
because its forbidden
we have Heaven, Earth and Man. what is the 4th? I'm thinking Life
>get wvr to 60 after lots of gil binging
>nothing sells decently besides super high level crafted 220 gear
>will probably drop in price after i finally get there
And thats when i realized, everything in this game is just a waste of my time
>>339610171
>FCs to be able to summon primals
In like dungeons and stuff? Like Type-0?
Daily reminder that wiping = FUN
Daily reminder that if you do Primal ex fights with Echo, unsynced or mas il gear you are a cuck and a faggot and should kill yourselfs.
Most rewarding mmo fights if you do them right.
>>339610285
new crafting shit comes out next week. stock up on mats, specially clusters
whocatboyhere
>>339585191
Hang yourself.
>>339610490
Cats are the worst kind of people regardless of gender.
>>339610404
Primals would roam areas like FATEs and the first FC to defeat them would be able to summon them in whatever content they like. This included PVP, which was originally supposed to be more organized and involve stuff like siege weaponry.
Once an FC got hold of a primal, it would stop spawning until they summoned it or a week or so passed. When they summoned it the sky/weather was supposed to change color across the server to tell everyone they were summoning it.
>>339610490
I would let him fug me. No homo.
>>339610596
should've forcefully invaded the emote RP with "anon explodes a massive fart in their general direction"
>>339610285
That was my feel when I got my first crafter to 50 and then found out that I can't do anything until all my other crafts are also 50. Working on CRP now at least with help from Ixal quests, moogles might help with that too.
>>339609663
Holy shit anon that was retarded.
At least you'll probably never see those people again.
>>339610656
sounds exploitable.
>Give us 20 million gil or you'll never see Garuda again
>>339594770
Are you going to post the same thing in every FFXIV thread?
>>339610656
That sounds cool.
I feel like no one really knows any FC on any server except for the several with 512 members.
There's no in-game light competition.
FC time trails could be fun.
>>339610209
would be nice if we could use the 4th mudra to augment previous ones,would be cool if we could make augmented huton summon shadow clones instead of giving you a buff
What's worse, FF tanks or WoW tanks?
Can I play it like it is a regular FF? like just solo the main story? If I like the stories of the other numbered FFs, will I like this?
>>339610490
I hate how much more animated catboy ears and tails are compared to females.
>>339611145
yes you'd probably like the story.
there are sections you need to be grouped up, but they're relatively painless
>>339611051
Lalafells.
>>339595101
>WHMs that dont use Shroud of Saints for MP recovery
Might as well find a new class to main.
>>339611145
The story is pretty shitty except for heavensward but yeah, you have to do it solo except for a few obligatory dungeons and trials
>>339611145
Yes, but why would you pay to play an MMO if you're going to skip the MMO part?
Either way, the game will force you into dungeons and boss fights with other players to continue the story, so you can't have a complete solo experience.
>>339611217
neat
>>339611051
>Lalafell WHM
>Acts like a smug bitch
I hate you
>>339611145
>Can I play it like it is a regular FF? like just solo the main story?
No.
>If I like the stories of the other numbered FFs, will I like this?
Hard to say. There are a lot of sections where the story is REALLY bad. It becomes ok from like level 40-50 a few of the 2.x patches had ok stories.
HW has a good main plot but it utterly shits over everything set up by 2.5
>>339611145
The story is the only part I like.
Finish it and unsub, raiding isn't fun.
>>339611051
What is even happening in this picture.
>>339599054
XIV's story is still bad though, even if it's better than the abortions we've had in other games.
XI is genuinely excellent, however, to the point where it's a huge waste that it's stuck in an MMO and hasn't yet been reimagined into a single player release somehow, which really wouldn't be difficult since all the building blocks are there to do so.
>>339611051
I levelled my PLD to 60 just so I can replace these chucklefucks in 2 seconds when they try to pull this shit
I also make a point to report them if they act extra smug
>>339584803
I tried playing ff14, but i ran out of books to read during the global cooldowns, so i had to unsub
>>339611289
a lot of people think mmo's are single player games where you see other people occasionally today
>>339611459
that is what I intended on doing, I beat every other numbered FF, except for XI, killed only Shadowlord, there but wanted to do all missions up until I beat dark cloud, then moving on to FFXIV
>>339611145
You should try SWTOR if you want to play a good story driven MMO.
Not saying FFXIV is bad, just saying you can't level up from 1 to 60 only doing the story quest.
>>339601592
SMN generally has more utility, but the hotbar bloat struggle is real.
Reminder that cats and lizards are subhuman and you should avoid engaging them at all costs.
Heil Maelstrom.
>>339587654
jeez oh man you should've just posted the actual opener
>>339602356
But Ozma.
>>339611561
>not jacking off between the downtime of the global cooldown
>>339595793
this is every day on leviathan we have so many hunt linkshells.
>>339611692
>not pledging your life to serve the seedseers
>>339611745
>I've gotten to the point where I'd rather watch people play a game than play it myself
It'll be a fun fight to watch.
>>339610672
very homo
>>339611179
should have picked the better gender
>>339611858
Playable Padjal fucking when
>>339611692
>potato jews
>ogres
>not subhuman
>>339611479
Qarn run.
PLD and DRG accidentally mess up the Doom debuff and they both die. DRG gets so assblasted that they disconnect themselves instead of leaving. I gave them ten minutes to come back and then called for a vote to dismiss them, which the BRD agreed with but the PLD disagreed with and threw a smug hissy fit because that was their friend, whom they never mentioned once throughout the run.
TL;DR Paladin overreacting.
>>339611901
Nah, catgirls for life.
>>339601592
>SMN is boring from 1 to 50 and it becomes one of the funnest jobs at lvl60. It's boring because it's a dot class and you don't get your big destroyer skills till lvl50-60.
>BLM feels funner from 1 to 50 because you have to swap between fire and ice but in the end everything you make is spam fire.
Just level up one and then the other. Both jobs share most of the high level gear so you can swap between them depending on the boss or dungeon.
>>339610157
>all those people saying we dont need a wow 2
at this point i just want a wow too because current wow hurts my eyes
>>339602919
I forget to esuna it half the time and it doesn't matter because between my fairy and tanks being overgeared it literally does not matter even a tiny bit.
If my tank is paper then I usually watch for it more, but otherwise I just sit in cleric's and only drop it for Indomitability after I get freed from my frog prison.
>>339611692
t. lala jews and pirate roe rapists
Gee, I sure am looking forward to resubbing for a month so I can finish this content that will take me all of a week to complete and become bored of.
The only content that has any chance at all of being interesting/fun is the new PvP mode but we know that SE can't create a new PvP mode without completely invalidating every single mode that came before it while at the same time creating huge wait times for the new mode because of their asinine GC restrictions.
>>339611745
And it'll be boring as shit on week 2 just like Void Ark was.
>>339612002
>Step on the switch to get rid of the insta death
Can they just fucking telegraph some mechanics better in some instances?
>>339611692
Maelstrom is half cat brah.
>>339612238
Is the game not babby-mode enough already?
>>339612238
nigga the whole room flashes yellow and a server message pops up on the screen
>>339611051
You are with that hotbar set up and being a fucking lalafel.
>>339612373
I know, and obviously you walk on the platform, but what does a platform have to do with anything?
That other boss fight is alright, the one with the fruit to cure the poison, that makes sense.
>>339612407
>hotbar setup
What preference would you have? This was taken two weeks ago, anyway.
And yeah, I'm a potato. Been thinking of changing races for a while, but I don't know what to choose.
>>339612656
Don't let people bully you into changing races. Unless you genuinely don't like being a Lalafell.
>raiding on whm or sch
>know when shit is gonna happen and precast heals or whatever, do my dps rotation without interruptions almost everything is telegraphed due to this
>try to raid on ast
>card shit makes me think everytime I draw one and CONSTANTLY interrupts my muscle memory train of thought
God I fucking hate this. I thought I could noct sect ast in a savage raid but just in a5s my whm was already nagging at me about no fairy.
>>339599545
>It's a he doesn't main SCH with 1200+ crit episode
when they don't take damage to begin with you don't have to worry about them being shit
>>339612614
>That other boss fight is alright, the one with the fruit to cure the poison, that makes sense.
that's another dungeon
>>339612656
Your first race is always the best race.
>be c@, switch to hyur, hate it and go back to c@
$30 mistake.
I really wish Summoner was cooler. Like don't get me wrong, I don't have too much experience with it and it's not bad, but I was hoping for a different, maybe more offensive type. More like Tactics summoners where all your spells are just based on a different monster or esper.
Also I feel like AST is a missed opportunity to include some more time shenanigans.
I guess I just wish all the classes could be a little more different than just "one deals damage with slightly different animations" kinda thing.
>>339612656
>Not wanting to be a based lala
>Not enjoying how every fucking body respects you despite your heigh.
Is XI reeaaallly the better game? Is it reeaaally?
>>339613390
yeah
>>339613390
go away
>>339613317
It should've just been that you channel the primals.
So Summoner can switch between its various primal forms, but that would probably make it a jack of All Trades class.
>>339613334
>jew potatos
>based
>>339607058
>Do the vault final boss 10 times
congrats, you're now good at healing
>>339613538
that's possible. There's a lot of neat ideas you could do, but it'd probably just be hard to balance in conjunction with synergizing between all the other classes.
What is the endgame in this game?
>>339607074
>Closing perfect balance with snap instead of true strike
Highlanders are based race.
>>339613925
Dressing up your catslut
>>339613390
It was the best MMO of its age, hardcore and time-dependant. You couldn't play alone, you had to pay for every fucking arrow if you had an bow...It wouldn't work today.
XIV is considered a "casual FFXI" but it's because times have changed. People can't play 10 hours per day and "nobody" wants to play a sandbox MMO.
>>339610285
crafting only gets profitable when you get everything to 60 including DoL
you then become the master of your own resources and the cashflow becomes enormous
>>339613990
What if i want to make a really edgy male Au-Ra Dark Knight?
>>339614028
There must be something the genre can rather than just following in Everquests footsteps.
>>339614162
Problem is with MMO's is that they all take a relatively large amount of capital investment compared to just making a standard game by itself. So no one ever wants to experiment heavily since the majority of actually good, supported, sub-based MMO's are so risk averse they have to just follow the market.
>>339613952
You have to go back.
>>339614028
>you had to pay for every fucking arrow if you had an bow
How expensive were they?
>>339611984
Would make zero sense from a lore perspective and I wouldn't want their reputation tarnished by turning them into the next meme race.
>>339612002
>Guy doesn't come back after 10 whole minutes
>His friend gets ass blasted when you kick him
>>339612656
Don't change your race if you DON'T want to change it. Remember you choose it for a reason the day you created your character.
Also
>Not liking lalas
WTF is wrong with you?
>>339614418
Enought to be a pain in the ass.
>>339614028
>XI was so awesome, everything about it was a pain in the ass!
>>339614028
FFXI was not in any way a sandbox MMO. Please do not confuse Everquest style scripted grinds with an actual sandbox where players are free to create the content/quests/explore open world and create their own objectives.
>>339613390
Yes. It was an actual RPG with mechanics other than "don't stand in the red circles". The world was much more open and dangerous and there were lots of places to explore. The world felt much more believable in the sense that there wasn't some fuck-huge landmark every 20 steps and it didn't have everything crammed together into tiny zones. The story was much more interesting and wasn't contaminated with trite fetch quests every 30 seconds. You were a small fish in a big world in XI. The community was amazing in that networking in XI played a big role in how successful you were. XIV only has a shell of anything resembling a community. The music was also top notch (XIV's isn't bad but it's nowhere near XI's).
>>339614663
Glad you fucking RNGs had to pay for all your arrows/bolts you got 90% of the exp party invites because the job was just broken for so long. I only started getting consistent invites 66+ when I could close light SCs with spinning slash.
>>339614823
I'm going to go play XI and if it's nothing like that I'm coming for you.
>>339614028
An FFXI sequel would have been fine if they just built on what made the game fun and cut out a lot of the stupid bullshit.
You don't have to literally remake the game and keep all the stuff that made people want to kill themselves, but that doesn't mean you can't build on what was a very successful formula and make it better or more intuitive.
Instead they farmed XIV out to chinks, rushed it out YEARS early, and then turned it into WoW. Great.
Everything good about XI, right into the fucking trash.
>>339614823
It was also mostly about killing the same two crabs a hundred times for exp and permanently checking the wiki for solutions to quests that consisted of running to an unmarked spot on a random map and interacting with an INVISIBLE object with the right key item.
And almost no bosses had unique models until like 3 expansions in, just taking random mobs and slapping a name on them for most. Actually there were almost no proper bosses in general.
>>339612039
>drop tank stance to get some more damage in
>this happens
>see the enmity bar of the 2 dps quickly catch up
>have to put tank stance back on to build some more lead
Fuck you
>had to channel the depths of my innermost autism to get fenrir back in 2.5
>yoshi made is infinitely easier to get MGP
>now everyone and their dog has it
>>339615192
Selene will fix you.
Probably.
>>339615104
>No proper bosses
Half the missions ended with boss fights, did you ever actually play the game?
Ozma theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3i7TGoO0rI
>>339615237
There's really no point in doing anything in this game because it gets nerfed a few months later.
I mean, gosh anon, how do you expect literally everyone that plays the game to experience 99.99% of the content unless we nerf it all into the ground???????
>>339614695
Just like WoW.
¿When was WoW good? When you needed elemental gear based on the raid, when you needed 39 other people to beat the content, when raid-time was +5hours per night, when Hunters had to pay for arrows/bullets and had one bag slot less because they needed a quiver, when you had to yell "LOOKING FOR GROUP!" on barrens to do WC and when you got the party 2 of the players had to go to the door and summon the rest....in other words, when it was harder and more time consuming.
>>339615379
Yes, there were such memorable bosses as "Lich" (a slightly bigger skeleton with normal-sized skeletons around it) or the creatures in Promyveon which were the same ones as the mobs you fought before them.
>>339614972
A lot of what he says is still fairly true but a lot has also changed. The community is less social now because most people who play have been playing for a long time, so they have their own groups and levelling no longer requires a party so you won't make friends just by levelling up. The world is less dangerous than it used to be and death is far less punishing.
>>339614823
>The world felt much more believable in the sense that there wasn't some fuck-huge landmark every 20 steps
While I agree with you, it is interesting to note that the level designers were specifically told to have at least 5 landmarks in every zone where players will want to stop and take screenshots.
>>339614992
But wasnt XIV 1.0 just XI-2?
>>339614449
b-but muh shotas
>>339615662
1.0 was so...horrible...I want to forget.
It didn't even had jobs....JOBS.
>>339614972
>was
Retail XI is pretty dead now and it's nothing like it used to be.
>>339615737
How can anyone care about male padjal when the females are literal perfection?
>>339612238
Please un-sub, you're the reason we're only getting baby level dungeons. Piece of shit.
>>339614562
>Really like all the races
>Can't play as a lala, they're too small and look silly as non-magic based classes
>Can't play a Roe, they're too big and look silly as non melee classes
>Can't play a cat, there's too bloody many
>Can't play an au-ra, same as the cats
>Can't play an elezen, they're too story dependant/"feel" weird to play as
>Can't play a midlander, they're generic as fuck and also too common
>Made the perfect highlander
Going to get my hands on the gnath armor set and will probably change my hair to the pompadour.
>>339614972
The only thing that is no longer there is the community. The difficulty/dangerous has also been nerfed as well but I encourage you to try to make any progress on the endgame bosses if you're looking for a challenge.
>>339615104
It wasn't a perfect game, but it was certainly more interesting than what we got with 2.0. I think 1.23b had a really good compromise of XI and Modern MMO stuff. Then they went full WoW clone with 2.0 which was meh but I held out hope for a long time they would gradually make the game more interesting. But here we are 2? years later with almost nothing to show for it.
>weeping city music is just the ff9 battle theme remixed
square enix think they slick
>>339611984
It would ruin the whm story.
Retards wanting playable moogles are bad enough.
>>339616018
>playable moogles
pls no
lalas are already enough of a cancer race
>>339615662
Not even close
what happened to diadem? what made it flop?
>>339616018
I want it.
>>339616097
No it's pretty accurate if you're talking about vanilla XI. That one had literally nothing to do but level up.
>>339615838
>implying Kan-E is anything but a shit
her sister is pretty cute tho
>>339615851
Female highlanders look okay until you realize they're all mouth breathers.
>All faces show teeth, mouth is always open.
Fuuuuck
>>339614972
If you play after 2011 or so, you don't get the real experience. Most of the world has been gutted. And there's no exploration anymore.
XI in its heyday was literally filled with people who didn't even level grind and just explored the world.
>>339615662
1.0 at release was a blob of various concepts, none of which was really finished. The fact that the game ran like absolute shit meant most people didn't even bother sticking around to see if anything worked out (and for good reason).
But then Yoshi took the helm of the game around 1.13? or something like that and over the course of the next year made the game a very interesting and enjoyable experience with the Meteor storyline culminating with patch 1.23b. The game was drastically rehauled from its original 1.0 launch and by around 1.19 the game had the classic FF jobs and AF armor, a revamped combat system, some actual endgame content and an interesting storyline to progress through (Meteor is probably one of the best MMO storylines every seen).
>>339615756
It had classes which were fine. Adding jobs was a shit decision only done because people thought it wasn't Final fantasy-y enough. What they did to Thaumaturge is disgusting
>>339616168
It was billed as a harkening back to older MMOs with strong monsters that would require team play and cooperation.
It was really just instanced hunt zergs.
>>339616241
I wonder if we'll ever get to time travel back to those moments.
Lolita Minfilia is very important.
>>339616018
>playable moogles
no one fucking wants that
if anything people want a moogle mount
>>339616205
Did vanilla even release in the west? I remember getting it around when it came out and already had Zilart with it.
>>339616207
Raya-O is the cutest! Kan-E is a top tier qt, but not as cute as Levevabefore they made her look like a dude at the end of the Astrologian quest line.
>>339615851
sounds like you're a faggot
>>339616365
Nope. NA came out after Zilart.
>>339616365
Vanilla was only in JP. It came bundled with RoZ in NA/PAL.
>>339616290
XIV's gameplay doesn't allow for team play and cooperation almost ever, so trying to replicate old MMO experiences without the tools to do so is a massive failure.
At best you need to pop a party utility cooldown sometimes, but otherwise the game is just do your samefag rotation and smash your face into mechanics.
>>339616353
A lot of retards on the forum and mentor chat wanted playable moogles.
>lets make the beast race only a few people can see, Ysayle never saw before playable!
NA retards.
>>339616241
>(Meteor is probably one of the best MMO storylines every seen).
That fucking red ball approaching more and more every fucking week till the server closed and...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgEg8kXmifo
How do I get grade 5 materia for crafters
>>339616606
sounds just like XI's team play
>>339615574
Sounds pretty shitty desu
>>339616664
convert 170 gear from crafting
>>339616729
Sounds like an MMO.
I like FF14 but I never played WoW.Should I bother check it out?
>>339616353
I want playable moogles, but not happening with how generic the XIV ones look, and they're not going to retcon all of that.
>>339616607
gimem the original
>>339616817
nah
>>339616817
>bother check it out
*checking it out
>>339616615
>muffled Answers in the background
spooky
>>339616615
This was the best shit ever
can we talk about how BTFO'd PLD's were after Heavensward release?
>>339616670
It's really not. The only job I would put close to that level is SCH, but the rest is just basically ignoring the rest of your party until the thing is dead, unless you have to do a team mechanic, which is more about that one fight rather than the base game.
>>339587654
>still uses ranged move at lvl60
>that awful rotation
fucking scrub
>>339616615
If only it could happen again, sadly console children are happy with current XIV.
>>339617428
I'm a legacy player and I prefer current XIV to 1.0. 1.0 did a lot of neat things though that I wish that stayed in the game. Hamlet defenses, slash/blunt/parry being on gear, older cutscenes, graphics, and butts. I still enjoy the game, but there are a few weeks where I just say fuck the weekly grind and go at a casual pace.
>>339617292
Example: In high level content you had to at least communicate with you team to set up skillchains and magic burst, because you had to coordinate 2 DDs and probably like 5-6 BLMS, as well as the tank party to make sure they're ready for it.
In merit/xp PTs, if you weren't skillchaining anymore, then you were probably bouncing hate around 4 DDs and at least had to have some basic knowledge of when to use and save TP, so you could keep a PT member from taking dmg and overworking your RDM healer, or forcing the BRD to slow down pulls.
Plus you couldn't do anything alone unless you were really prepared or had a good solo job leveled and geared. XIV is a single player game that you happen to play with other people, and basically the only reason to talk to people in groups is when someone is complaining about someone else not robotically doing either the mechanics or rotations perfectly.
Should I use my fantasia to turn into a cute midlander, or stay a cat girl?
>>339618013
Premake your midlander to see if you like the outcome.
>>339618013
>midlander
>cute
>>339618013
Midlanders are too girly or old, c@ make the best tomboys.
>>339617849
>>339617849
>rdm healer
I love how the only reason people even took this job for merit parties was because it could keep its mp up and cast haste.
No other fucking reason, literaly just Haste. The other mages have at least a dozen other buffs they could put on you? Don't care, I just want Haste.
Then the moment the leve cap broke and SCH got access to Haste all thay shit got turned upside down.
Not to mention that they weren't a particulary useful class for endgame content. If it was alliance shit you'd take one for debuffs but that was it.
>>339584803
SHILLS GO HOME
XIV WEEBSHITTERS >STILL SUBBING TO THIS SHIT
>believing Yoshi lies
>still playing FF-skinned WoW with complete retarded foreigners, underage, and totally weebfaggots who are NOT good at videogames/end game/ just ERP
>giving money to S-E to keep giving you nil content and appealing to the literal shitters who can't do endgame
>giving money to S-E to even able to design a decent endgame
>giving money to S-E when they should abandon the cancerous "trifeca" of healer-tank-dps and fully accept "support" and retailor some classes so RDM and other legacy FF classes will work in future expansions
>giving money to S-E when they STILL haven't dropped PS3/4 support
>giving money to S-E to STILL create small as fuck zones, and instancing EVERYTHING and still not fixing all this bullshit from "2.0" including not being able to communicate when in certain instances/scenarios to certain groups (ls or party or tell etc).
You people are cancer and support cancer.
>>339618207
How would RDM work in XIV? A dps mix between ranged and melee?
>>339618465
whatever homo
>>339618570
As expected of a weebshitter ARR player, you're hovering in this thread to argue and debate that this game is "good" whilst it is not, or argue about arbitrary class or endgame shit that will eventually be outdated, nerfed, or fucking forgotten.
>>339618207
Yes anon, people used RDM in merit parties because of the unique shit only it could do they way they did it, you solved the puzzle. Next you'll crack the brain buster of why everyone subbed NIN to go with it.
>weren't a particulary useful class for endgame content
Literally no reason not to have 2-3 RDMs in an alliance.
>>339618562
A melee DPS whose rapiers (NOT SWORDS, SWORDS ARE GLADIATOR WEAPONS) happen to be on fire/ice/whatever
>>339618146
They can be cute sometimes
>>339606476
>You kill FOUR of those mother fuckers by yourself
those are nameless trash ascians though.
>>339600483
I joined for the sword. Now I spend my days maxing crit for them sweet 4k royal authorities
>>339618643
Quit being autistic. I'm not here to argue if it is good or not, I don't give a shit about what some random asshat on /v/ thinks about games I like. I am here to talk about a game.
>>339618961
Whatever homo
>>339618679
What I thought. Maybe they should give them gunblades too.
>>339618643
>using weaboo as an insult
Get out
4chan is a japanese focused website
>>339595951
you must be a on a dead server then
the big servers like gilgamesh, balmung or ultros are full of life in most areas
>>339618679
Hopefully it will be like AST in a way with them casting buffs on the party while they deal damage. Maybe pull a RIFT and have Tank/Heal/DD/Support as classifications.
Won't happen though since that will require too much work from SE and make balancing current stuff harder with the added role. I'd be nice though to have actual supports.
>>339619290
>Literally only a handful of servers have a decent population
>SE expects you to pay more than the monthly sub fee just to transfer to an active server
If I was on a dead server I would just quit.
>>339619180
Im talking in the sense that XIV weebshitters set themselves apart by being the literal fuckbois of weebs.
There are good weebs and bad weebs. This is the latter.
How's MCH in the update? Any significant changes?
>>339619180
Just don't respond to him. He's just shitposting.
>>339619319
Actually I would not be surprised if support is added in 4.0. Yoshi talked about either Support or Hybrid being a job type fairly early in 2.0's life but said they wouldn't add it in 3.0 because they wanted it to be sort of a continuation of what 2.0 was
I honestly don't see them doing a good job with it though
>>339619514
They are better than BRD now since they buff more people.
>>339619514
They made it so you can see the procs as they happen rather than there being a delay. It is much smoother to play now. They're pretty good damage wise if played well.
>>339594623
Because dodging huge orange telegraphs is so much harder right? At least in wow if you suck dick you get kicked. In Hugbox 14 I have to suffer through hundreds of attempts of people failing to do the same basic task even when they allegedly know what they are doing.
>>339619534
>Don't respond, it'll ruin our safe zone about our support of a cancerous game standard and giving money to a company to drudge it further down until no one is left that wants a semblance of a challenge or uniqueness.
Amazing.
>>339595951
I'm the anon that posted the pic. I really used a random image of my foulder. But I'm a player on Ragnarok and it's always flooding with people everywhere.
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>>339619992
calling people weebshitters is intelligent conversation guys
>>339585603
>press one ability
>2.5 sec animation
>>339595793
>MMOish. Not pure open world but the areas are SO BIG and full of life you really won't care.
Why do you lie? The areas are fucking tiny even without mounts and full of invisible walls. Heavensward is the only place with decently big zones but good luck getting there without wanting to kill yourself as a new player.
>>339619843
>Because dodging huge orange telegraphs is so much harder right?
That's the point. They are SO bad they can't dodge a big fucking orange aoe in time because they are trained to play with DBM telling them where things are going to happen and how to react.
Forget about the landslide, watching wowfugees unable to survive the explosive rocks was so fucking fun.
>>339619843
>Hugbox 14 I have to suffer through hundreds of attempts of people failing to do the same basic task even when they allegedly know what they are doing.
The fuck are you playing with? They get 2 shots with me. Or they're gone on an extremely obvious fuck up. The rest of the groups are usually too spineless or indifferent to keep the person around and just agree to the votekick.
>>339620087
Because I said there are good weebs, and delusional weebshitters.
The latter are the people who keep subbing, but say they are "too scared" to join a FC, or don't speak up to join a static, or keep being little ERP fuckboi faggots who use passive aggressive text, or little faggots who say "I'm just a crafter" or some shit and demand that S-E put in an easier way to obtain similar endgame gear because they're too literally retarded to not step in highlighted circles.
What part of this conversation do you fail to understand, illiterate?
>>339620375
>I'm going to use their blanket term without telling you the meaning!
>WOW YOU'RE ILLITERATE!
You should really go neck yourself.
>>339620218
i made this 4u
>>339620554
Great retorts on my points, shitter.
Calling our your safe space because you killed this game with your tumblr tier faggotry.
>>339620218
That's not how it works.
>press one GCD skill
>press one out-GCD skill
>press one GCD skill
>press one out-GCD skill
You never wait 2.5 seconds and animations are 1 second long the longest.
>>339620554
>>339620680
Calling out**
Now watch as this mouthfoaming weebshitter who probably has never cleared endgame try and get the last word in on this page 10 autopruning thread so he can feel smug.
TL;dr peopel who keep playing this game are 95% shitters, 5% good players who can't let go and see how much Yoshi lies and how dogshit the community drags the aim and future of this game down.
>>339620680
But I'm in an FC static and don't RP? I craft on the side, but that's because raiding only takes up 10 hours a week.
>>339620801
You really are autistic if people playing a game differently than you upsets you this much.
>>339620801
>try and get the last word in on this page 10 autopruning thread so he can feel smug
Why are you, were were you 500 posts ago?
This game made me lose faith in humanity, I wish I could replace everyone with bots and do everything alone.
