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>XIV will never have XV's budget and polish
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>XIV will never have XV's budget and polish
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>>339493776
Fuck you, this piece of shit MMO delayed games at SE just so they could remake it into a WoW clone. They've poured enough money into it.
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>>339494434
I'd much rather blame the omen that is XIII for your problems.
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>still playing FF games made by modern square
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>>339493776
That's because a huge chunk of it's earnings have gone in to funding XV. Hopefully that can change after it's relaease, but I somewhat doubt it.
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>>339495078
How do we know this?
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>>339495175
Go back and look at the earnings reports. It was almost the only thing generating profit for SE for over a year. And that money certainly hasn't been put back in to the game now has it, Yoshi is still working with the same limitations he had when he was making 1.0
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Tataru really is an ugly little impling isn't she?
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>>339495760
Everyone deserves love Anon.

Dig deep, and summon your affection for her.
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>>339495760
She's the most adorable lala there is tbqhfam
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>>339495890

I think she's the only person in the scions who has even had people vying for her affection at all. There was that imperial soldier who wanted to hug her to death and there's also cuck Wedge.
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>>339495760
Nah, you a twat anon.
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>va gets raped and killed
>just ignore character in game forever
>swap out all the other VAs for cheaper ones for the xpac anyways
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>>339496253

God their faces are so round and yet their features so flat.
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>>339496319

>va gets raped and killed

I'm sorry, what?
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>>339496319

I thought it was the English VA that got raped and killed? Why would the Japs care about that?
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>>339496319
The va that died was HW Yuuguri va though.
She sucked, her ARR va was much better.
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>>339496439

maybe probably not raped

the girl who voiced the au ra ninja scion was killed
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>Alphinaud'\s Heavensward VA
>Merlwyb's Heavensward VA
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>there are people who dont use the jap voices
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>>339496703
>only people who don't understand japanese will switch to japanese voices
>everyone else will realize how fucking boring and mundane everyone sounds in the JP dub
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>>339496703
The Japanese voices don't fit the tone of Heavensward.
Hearing a lot of the extras make me feel like I'm watching a mid-tier shounen anime.
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>>339496876
everyone already sounds mundane and hopelessly bored in the eng sub
at least the jp one has some emotion in it
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>>339496639
Using the dub.
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>>339497006
>english midgarsomr
>mundane

Art thou living in ye olden times, pernicious caitiff?
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I tried playing it but got bored of it like twice while trying to progress to 50.
Then some drama happened and I just quit since I had server hopped twice to play with "friends".
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>>339493776
>MMO having that kind of budget
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>>339493776
It doesn't need XV polish and budget, just 1.0's cutscene polish and budget.
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>>339497795
Might as well.

The only real competition is Warcraft and Korean flavor of the month.
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>>339493776

Cry me a river, XIV - you had your chance, failed, XI paid for your post-Dalamuding rebuilding, and you still get a bunch of attention, budget and promotional efforts.
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What do you expect from a game that blatently rips models from XI, XII and XIII?
>let's put these pulsework knights in the game
>make em bigger and say the allagans made them lmao
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>>339497738

Cool blog post, faggot.
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>>339498642
There's literally nothing wrong with this
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>Start dungeon with a couple of DPS friends
>SCH standing around, letting their fairy do all the healing while they AFK
>Deal with it until reach the final boss
>Vote kick
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>>339498642
>take assets from other games
>call it fanservice
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>>339493776
>XIV will never EVER be a good game
>SE spent all that time and money rebuilding it into ARR
>Ruined it with the first expansion

Seriously hope nobody thinks any part of 3.x will be good, or that the next abortion of an expansion won't be just as bad.
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>>339498124
Still makes me mad that they killed off XI for this pile of shit.
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>>339500516
Dropping the ps3 support will make the game good meme.
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>>339501393
>XIV limited to PS3
>Still worse than a PS2 game from 2004
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>>339493776
>XI will never have XIV's budget and polish
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>>339496109
Well, every girl has had Thancred vying for her. And there was that whole thing Urianger and Moonbreeder.
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>>339498642
What's worse, taking assets from other games or rehashing assets like WoW?
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>>339496520
Maybe they'll replace her with an attractive Au Ra.
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>FFXIV WILL NEVER MOVE AWAY FROM SHITTY THEMEPARK STYLE OF MMO GAMEPLAY
>ALL IT HAS ARE WEEKLY TIMER LOCKOUTS AND BORING GRINDING REPEATING THE SAME CONTENT OVER AND OVER

sad and pathetic

glad i moved onto black desert, amazing game with tons of content like every month. amazing gameplay too, combat is fun,

i might go back to ffxiv when they add blue mage, and if the class isnt some shitty wow ripoff class like every class before it, but i doubt it
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>XIV will never have fun
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>>339502464
>best face
>best horns
They can't do better.
Her nig britbong va doesn't matter anyway.
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>duty roulette on castrum
>still new to the dungeon so I just let the other tank pull everything
>get to the part before the airship
>oh shit the other tank is at like 15% hp I should pull a couple mobs off him
>get called shit and asked if I want the entire group to be wiped
>and apparently I got the turrets killed
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>>339502807
>best face
That's a funny joke, nigga.
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>>339502864
Pretty sure wiping there is impossible anyway.
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>>339502864
>>339502864
Hang in there bro, everyone makes mistakes.

People who just want to speedrun dungeons forget that they were new once.
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>>339503058
Better than the pointy chin, fish or tsundere bug faces anyway.
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>>339503203
I like the fishlip face but those eyes ruin the whole thing.
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>>339502382

Being a scion for 2 days doesn't count.

And when someone hits on anything with 2 legs, that doesn't count either.
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>>339502589

>ALL IT HAS ARE ... BORING GRINDING REPEATING THE SAME CONTENT OVER AND OVER

Is there an MMO that doesn't do this?
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>>339503120
I wanna slide my cock between Minfillia's breasts and have her give me a titjob.
Too bad she deadddd
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>>339493776

But FFXIV still looks better because of its Victorian/realistic fantasy style. The problem is, as amazing as the world looks, there's no incentive to explore it.

Rather than spendin 100 million to upgrade the look of FFXIV, they should just add more explorable side quests and stuff to do besides raiding/dailies. But then, that would make it Dragon Quest X.
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>>339493776

>XIV will never be FFXI 2.0 and will forever be derivative of WoW
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>>339504662
Technically Moen was a scion for a long time before we ever saw her.
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>>339505018
She's not dead, she's just Hydaelyn's linkpearl now.
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>>339505137
>The problem is, as amazing as the world looks, there's no incentive to explore it.

That's hilariously incorrect. The game looks fucking awful even on the DX11 client; the best you'll get is sometimes there's interesting landmass. There's no AA, the parralax mapping they didn't even attempt to do properly, anytime you run you'll see a mysterious line form on the ground that runs with you, texture resolutions are awful and due to ps3 limitations there isn't even basic fucking merchants traveling between points.

The world is ugly and empty and the dungeons are oddly the only real good looking areas that everyone just blazes through.
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People still play this?
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>>339505659
textures are dogshit, but the lighting is really pretty
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>>339505137

>Muh exploration

I never understood the whole exploration idea. What is it that you want other than nice scenery? There's even random events you can find of people traveling along that you can discover.

What would side-quests do, exactly?
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>>339505847
Lighting is bad too.

most of the time your characters look awful because of their asinine projections.
I will say the weather effects were very nice; heat lightning in gridania always felt good to see.
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>>339505659

Fine, I'll put it a different way for the PC graphics extremists. The games textures might not look good, but it has infinitely better art design and direction than FFXV does. But of course if all you care about is how many polygons the game is pushing, then yes. You'll prefer FFXV.

>The world is empty
That was the main point of my post. They need to add more stuff to do besides just raids and story quests.
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>>339506067

They have side quests, treasure hunts, monster hunts, FATEs, gathering... can't think of much else but there's things to do in the overworld.

Problem is, of course, of how relevant it is. And truth be told I think gamers are just tired of the fantasy genre.

Oh is that a floating city? Eh, what else is new. Fuck it.
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>>339506067
>They need to add more stuff to do besides just raids and story quests.
They won't.
>he games textures might not look good, but it has infinitely better art design and direction than FFXV does. But of course if all you care about is how many polygons the game is pushing, then yes. You'll prefer FFXV.
>this game has art design I don't like so this extremely generic looking mmo has good

I will admit the concept art for FFXIV is GOAT but the actual executed models/textures are trash and I feel you don't play many other games.
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>>339505663
I want to roast that potato.
Spitroast it.
Over an actual fire.
I want it to die.
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>>339505663
Could they have possibly designed Lalafell with more hideous proportions?
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>>339506587

They designed them to appeal to toddlercons.
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>>339505946

Let's put it this way. Doing a few quests where the game tells you whereto go is okay. But when every single quest is 'run to the indicated marker, kill something, then go back to NPC', there's zero variety and it gets old.

It wouldn't have been that hard to shake things up a bit. You could still have the set story quests from NPCs in town as I described above. But it would have been far more engaging for the player if many of the other quests you actually found through exploration. This gives people an actual incentive to go explore every inch of the world, to find new quests. Rather than just running to an indicator on the map to finish one quest, then ignore everything else.

It also would keep people playing longer. As it stands now, 90% of people just rush through the game until they no longer have any more NPCs giving quests, then quit. If people had to actively go search for quests, they would 1) Play longer as it takes actual time to find them and 2) Keep looking for more quests, even if there wasn't new ones. In the process of doing both those things, they would have more interaction with the world.
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>>339506258

>They have side quests, treasure hunts, monster hunts, FATEs, gathering...
The problem is not what kind of quests they have, but how they're implimented. Wither you're talking about FATEs, gathering quests or treasure hunts, 99% of them are initiated by talking to an NPC first, rather than finding the quest on your own. A few gathering quests and the monster hunts are about the only things I can think of where you don't have to talk to an NPC beforehand. And even then, all it entails is looking at a list on the menu screen. Not actually finding anything yourself.
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>>339507232

So, what you want are hidden quests, pretty much?

At which point people will just go to a website and find a list of all the hidden quests to figure out how to do them. Either that or ignore them as inconsequential.
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>>339505018
I want to give her kisses through her buttwindow!
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>>339505018
>too bad
Dying is the best thing that happened to her.
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>>339507534

There's a difference between a quest being hidden and a quest being on the overworld to find. Though it depends on how the developer implements it. And given the history of the FF series, they probably would do something stupid like put a quest behind an invisible wall or a complex system of clicking on bushes to unlock it. When it doesn't need to be that complex. Literally just have a random item you find or a rare enemy you kill which starts the quest.
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>>339506771

The problem is that MMO quests by and large, and utterly boring inane bullshit that people want to avoid like the plague to get to the actual meat of the content.

Fix that first.
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>>339505663
Yes.
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What are your wildest hopes and dreams for 4.0 /v/? Are they reaslistic? Do you think they'll change the formula we've had through 2.X-3.X now? Why is Min the sexiest and best girl?
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>>339505663
Sadly yes, lalafell still exist.
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XIV water > XV water.
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>>339507878

And what's the incentive for this? Am I going to get a rare item as a reward? A substantial amount of gil? Because if it's just going to be exp there's not much incentive.

And you know SE wouldn't make it a worthwhile treat to find once in a while.
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>>339507923

What meat is there after the quests? All you have is optional quests which are exactly the same as story quests, crafting or raiding. Most people quit the game because all that 'meat' is even worse than the story quests.
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>>339508438
Even the blind cat is better than her.
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>>339508438
All I want is Blue Mage. I don't care if it's tank, DPS or healer, I just want it.
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>>339498642
>What do you expect from a game that blatently rips models from XI, XII and XIII?


And from I,II, III,IV,V, VI, VII, VIII, IX and X. it's a Final Fantasy MMO after all and the fanservice is good for this kind of games.
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>>339508654

Problem is, Blue Mage won't be anything unique. You'll just be playing a DPS class that has some healing. And instead of gaining skills from being hurt by enemies, you'll gain skills the same way as every other class. Finishing story quests and an NPC giving you a new skill.

Blue Mage should get skills by doing a crazy quest like 'Let Marbolo hit you with Bad Breath 100 times'. Instead it'll be 'Go kill 10 Malboros: You gained Bad Breath!'
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>>339508557

Dungeons, PvP (lol), raids, trials...

Group content, basically. The reason for it being an MMO in the first place.
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>>339508849
>monster races are the same as models.
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>>339508438
Hoping for a skill revamp. Boh to reign in skill bloat and to revamp the way skills are gained so you don't end up with things like PLD not having shield oath until 40.
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>>339508438
I expect more lies from the dev team and 90% unfulfilled promises that eventually kill the game harder than HW did when people realize it rehashes ARR YET AGAIN as 2-3 weeks in people find themselves grinding FATES for maguffins, doing beast tribe dailies, roulettes, and wiping to the latest meme raid or EX primal.
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>>339508557

>Most people quit the game because all that 'meat' is even worse than the story quests.

No fucking way. Only when you do that shit 30 times but the dungeons/raiding is good at least once.
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>>339508980

Not only "Monster Races". They use other FF enemies as bosses like FFVI sephiroth, FFIX Ozma in next patch, FFIII bosses in Syrcus Tower, Knights of the Round and a massive etc. And that's not WRONG. That's what the players want. It's a FF game and players want FF content.

For god's sake tfw you get your magitek armor and FFVI Terra's Theme begins...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVNz_CfhSuY
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>>339508901
I don't care. I am 100% okay with Mighty Guard just being the exact same effect as Protect, because it will be called Mighty Guard.

Yoshi-P has gone on record saying he doesn't want to have a "Let Malboro hit you with Bad Breath 100 times" situation, because that would lead to BLUs leveling without getting all their spells, and getting shunned from groups because of it.

My personal hope for BLU is that they would get to equip their Blue Magic in a similar way to the Cross Class system. With each job quest being, "Go out and learn ~5 Blue Magic Spells"
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>>339509351
Mighty Guard is already the tank LB.
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>>339508438

I expect absolutely nothing.
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>>339509274
People like those things, it's fanservice that require work, they need to make need models, it's when they are lazy it's bad.
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>>339509426
Fuck me, I forgot about that. They'd better rename it then, because Mighty Guard and Bad Breath are pretty much the only enemy skills BLU absolutely has to have.
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>>339509592

>Bad Breath
>In a game where crowd control barely matters
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>>339505663

Yes. It's fun.
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>>339497738
Have you tried playing with friends, and not "friends", anon?
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>>339509524

Of course people like those things. I'm defending it anon.
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>>339509767
Again, don't care. The job could be utterly useless, and I will still play it. I just want BLU in the game.
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>>339510017

Why not just play a PLD if you want to be useless?
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>>339508901
Which is already pretty much what happens in FFXI
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>>339508438
After HW it became painfully obvious that current dev team is incapable of designing any content that isn't a copy paste of the existing one. And don't try to use executive meddling as an excuse - it could have affected the amount of content, but it doesn't explain uninspired design of basically everything, rehashed bosses and mechanics and development time wastes on DoA content
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>>339510080
You can be useless and still fun, like mch.
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>>339510080
Hey, that's my main class!

Even though I'll play BLU no matter what role it is, I'm kind of hoping it's Tank, so that my position in my raid group stays the same.
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>>339510017

Weren't RED and SAM confirmed to come first?

I really want BLU to happen...but don't know how are they going to do it. Remember BLU have always been a debuffer and we have the SMN doing this with the skills a BLU is supposed to have...so or they completely change the way SMN is or BLU will just be a BLM with water spells.
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>>339508227

Woah i got a stalker
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>>339510017
Ship has sailed. There will never be another implementation as good as blu in 11 when the level cap was still 75. Blu in 14 would be mind-numbing spamming just like the blm or smn "rotation." We already know the dev team can't develop compelling combat systems, they'd make a mockery of something as open ended as blue mage.
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A skill revamp for 4.0 would be great, but they'll never do it. I'd be so happy if they added Samurai, I'd max level it immediately.

The only problem I have with the game that I wish they would fix is to give all the jobs more distinction. If you've played 1 physical dps, you've played them all. Same goes for healers. They literally all get the exact same spells just with a different coat of paint, and maybe 1-2 """""unique"""" spells. It's fucking boring.

WoW got class diversity right. If it's one thing this game really needs to steal from them, it's that.
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>>339496876
This is the issue I have with Neptunia. I honestly didn't care for the series until I played it in English.

FFXIV is bland across the board.
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>>339510169
>thinking MCH isn't better than BRD in literally every way
LOL
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Please don't delude yourselves into thinking 4.0 will revamp absolutely anything in this pile of shit, and just move on.

SE is a creatively bankrupt company and will never make anything as good as their old games.
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>>339510483

WHM and SCH skills are pretty different.
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>>339510187
>Weren't RED and SAM confirmed to come first?
No. RDM and SAM were both mentioned in the last anniversary event, but so was BLU. None of them were ever confirmed though, just listed as highly likely possibilities.

>I really want BLU to happen...but don't know how are they going to do it.
Due to the nature of BLU, they can do whatever the fuck they want with the job.

>Remember BLU have always been a debuffer
Where on earth are you getting that idea from?
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>>339510426
Wow anon, it's like you don't enjoy doing the exact same thing for literally 99.999999% of the game when you play any job that isn't SCH.

Stop complaining and enjoy doing your optimal DPS rotation that will never EVER change for any reason as you dance around mechanics.
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>>339493776
>you will never marry your own Lalafell
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>>339510483
A total gameplay revamp for 4.0 would be great. Current combat sucks.

They'll have to do some ability pruning sooner or later, when I played my bars were almost full without counting pots/food/pvp abilities.
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>>339510483
Why do you think WoW only adds a new class like, once a decade?
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>>339510483
I want them to nuke the game again.
Make it look better, play better, drop console support, even ps4.
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>>339510483
A complete overhaul of the system, like from 1.0 to 2.0 would be great (and arguably necessary). Even just adding an actual Support role would be amazing.

It'll never happen, though. The only reason for the first overhaul was because it was a commercial failure. Now that it's making bank, there's no reason to change.
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I think the fan-service and world of FFXIV was fun, and getting a class to max level was what I did in my spare time in between raids, but the game boils down to idle simulator like every MMO because of the lack of shit to do.

>Best gear, most challenging content is 8-man.
>Scheduling for statics is always a pain in the ass, and always amounts to someone being late, tired, uninterested, and people and their bullshit creates unnecessary drama.
>Kick players, have to find a new one, cycle continues
>Was on Brynhildir, where a good amount of the population was PS3/4 users. Most were bad with some exceptions, so recruiting was rough since every raid-wanting player was drafted to the largest raid FC on the server.
>Anything that wasn't 8-man Extreme or Savage was piss easy and made to take up in time instead of being something of value beyond weekly currency.

I had a lot of hope for Heavensward, and the leveling experience was nice, but the end-game ran into the same shit as ARR.
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>>339494570
It was both.

XV's development was held back by both XIII sequels and rebuilding XIV. I play XIV myself, but I get very frustrated when people say that XV is stealing funds from XIV. Not only are they the same series and XV doing well has the potential to directly influence the long term success of XIV, but XV has had so much time and money taken from it over the last decade to rescue other Final Fantasy products.

Its great that XIV is back on its feet and making Square Enix money, but don't act like the money being spent on XV is somehow a slap to the face to the XIV playerbase.
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>>339510772

>enjoy doing your optimal DPS rotation that will never EVER change

I could only imagine how long dungeons would take if optimal DPS changed, as 80% of the people I run in to can barely pull 60% of what they should be.

"Hey, try and stay in your Earth-attuned path this boss takes extra damage from it. And avoid wind-aspected damage."
"Fuck you I play how I want fucking tryhard"
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>>339500697
the pain will never go away
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>>339510772
>Stop complaining and enjoy doing your optimal DPS rotation that will never EVER change

Rotations changed from 2.0 to 3.0.

My gosh SMN doesn't even feel like the same job when playing sub HW content.
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>>339495760

Take that back
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>>339511401
>"Fuck you I play how I want fucking tryhard"
>Then there's a wipe and that player begins calling everybody a noob, a tryhard and leaves the dungeon.


Story of my life in any MMO
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>>339511897
>rotations change once every 1.5-2 years so it doesn't count
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>>339498642
They'll rip enemies from XV and make them new trash/bosses/hunts for the next expansion.
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>>339511897

Yeah they changed because you got new skills. As soon as you get them, there will always be an optimal rotation though.
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>>339493776
>XI will never have XV's budge, but is already polished more than that turd XIV.
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>>339512392
And we'll have come full circle.
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>>339512135

I don't think it's even possible to wipe due to shitty DPS in the current high level dungeons. Just for giggles I went in on a monk and just did autoattack damage. Still cleared the thing in 32 minutes.
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>>339512440
Even XIV is better than hold O to win the game. Don't be retarded.
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>>339502864
If your group needs to turrets to not wipe, they're the one that are shit.
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>>339512409
That's because the whole game is incredibly static. There are no character builds, no talents, no skill-altering gear bonuses, no bosses with elemental immunities. Of course in this situation everything would be quickly optimized .
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>>339502864
Sounds like you did nothing wrong and your group was dogshit.
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>>339512440
Polish is probably the one thing XIV does better than XI. Having to reload everything from the server from inventory to chat on zoning is awful. Being locked in menus because the animations for enemies hitting you is still playing out is shit. The update process is still slow as hell and manual updates don't always work 100%.
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>>339510717

If these NPCs didnt actually say this in japanese its just the localization team having a bit of fun, which they are known to do
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>>339500697
You've still got that mobile XI coming out later.
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>>339513205
>nexon
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>>339513381
What's bad about Nexon?
>>
Because XIV is just a cash cow at this point. It will never have any kind of long term improvements as long as it can sustain steady income from weebs and other casuals that subscribe to play dress up. It literally only still exists because it helped SE get out of bankruptcy from the first attempt.
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>>339513510
They invented P2W.
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>>339512826
As much as I like XIV, this is my major complaint with it.

Every White Mage plays the same as every other White Mage, every Black Mage plays the same as every other Black Mage... The only difference is whether someone got certain cross-class skills or not.

Like you said, there's no builds, no gear that gives cool bonuses, and the elemental system is a joke and might as well not exist. Same for attribute points. There's never any reason to not invest in Mind as a White Mage, and the only kind of choice you get with them is whether you want to become a Summoner or Scholar as an Arcanist.

I mean I've played F2P MMOs with more depth.
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>$18CA sub
>$5-50 dlcs
Fuck off
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>>339496876
This. The Jap lines are generic af.
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>>339514169
>$18CA sub
Damn, you guys are getting ripped off.

A sub is $13 here in the states.
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>>339514169
>>339514248
non-legacy peasants fuck off
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>>339514068
>every Black Mage plays the same as every other Black Mage

I fucking WISH people were halfway competent at playing BLM. I still see people tranposing in a single target rotation at level 60.

Anyway, your point stands. Yoshi had the gall to say that the different melee jobs were effectively the same thing as alternate specs in other games, but it those games you don't have to level an entire class to level cap to switch between them.

They had a good thing with the Arcanist job split, but since it's too hard, they're not going to do it anymore.
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>>339514320
>Yoshi talks about how they could have classes with two jobs that have abilities change when you switch jobs, uses DRK coming off gladiator as an example
>loljk let's just make every new job its own thing
>but let's also keep the cross class system class-only so no other class gets to take advantage of these new classes
>also lets not get rid of the fucking awful armory system that locks every class/job to a single weapon type
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>>339514320
>Yoshi had the gall to say that the different melee jobs were effectively the same thing as alternate specs in other games, but it those games you don't have to level an entire class to level cap to switch between them.
Not only that, but every FFXIV raid encounter is designed to be eventually beatable with any job combination. This limits the potential encounter mechanics and options. So even if you level all jobs to the cap, you would have less of an advantage than someone just switching the specs in other MMOs.
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>>339496876

The 'mundane' aspect isn't the fault of the Japanese voices. But because they were directed to act subtly. You can claim the Japanese voices in most FF games are subtle. Hell, I've been playing FFIV recently and Cecil is so mundane, it sounds like he's being sarcastic anytime someone dies. Other characters are screaming 'Tellah!' and he's just like 'Tellah....' Which again, isn't the fault of the voice actor, who is known for playing plenty of outgoing, loud voices in anime and games. Just in this one game, they told him to be drab and solemn.

Still, I'd rather take monotone and boring over 'Kawaii cockney catgirls haha!'
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>>339514763
>expecting a hack to not be full of shit
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>>339514320
>>339514763
>>339514883
I was thinking about redesigning cross-class skills and I had a neat idea. Let's make them tied to a job role like limit break, not to a specific class. For example, all tanks automatically unlock provoke at lvl 20, all melees unlock Invigorate, casters and healers unlock Swiftcast.
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>>339512826
>no bosses with elemental immunities

I admit I still feel somehow "bad" when spamming Fire on Ifrit and using Thunder on Ramuh or Ice on Shiva.
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>you will never get gud at monk
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>>339511136
>anything that wasn't 8 man was piss easy

This is one of my biggest problems with the game. Every single dungeon/primal/anything is so ducking easy. There's no other way to describe it. You can easily run into almost any fight in the game and just faceroll without any idea what's going on. I swear back when I played WoW it was harder than this. It's been so long I can't even remember what the fight mechanics in WoW were like, but they must have been more complicated than this causal fest.
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>>339515451
>use 1, 2 3 on back and 1.5, 2.5 and 3.5 on sides
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>>339510717

>Quests on top left
>Chat on bottom right
>Exp bar on top mid

How are you still alive anon?
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>>339498642
>>339508849
>Ozma is going to be a boss in the Weeping CIty of Mhach
Fuck everyone, Im excited.
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>>339510483
Samurai will get added for sure its one of the most requested classes. I just really don't want it to be a tank class which it probably will be. BLM and RDM are highly requested but I don't feel either class would fit into FFXIV without butchering the class.

They will need to add more armory chest space before adding more classes though honestly there's 23 classes max so there's only room for 2 more classes if you have all of them without requiring you to store weapons in retainers or your inventory which would be awful. I think the 25 limit is a PS3 limitation and they have talked about expanding it so I would expect it to increase in 4.0 with PS3 support dropped.
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>>339515451
But it's the easiest of the melee based dps jobs
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>>339515634
>Ballbuster RNG boss is wasted on braindead 24 man content

I was kinda bummed about it till I saw him going full rubick cube in the trailer.
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>>339496319
She wasn't raped silly anon
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>>339515451

I don't even know what 'gud' as a monk is at this point. I mean, I parse at 1600-1700 on things that are practically training dummies, but I have nothing to measure it against.
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>>339510717
>being a full vit shitter in 3.1
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>>339515634
>Ozma
Literally who?
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>>339515845
go to fflogs and compare your numbers to them.
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>>339515891
>being underage
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>>339515547
Get an Android.
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>>339515891
>he doesn't know
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>>339515891
You have to be 18 to post on 4chan.
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>>339515891
Best girl.
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>>339515732
>BLM and RDM are highly requested but I don't feel either class would fit into FFXIV without butchering the class.


Well they already did that with other jobs. BLM spamming Fire, Ice being a "reload MP" and Thunder being a dot, DRK being a FUCKING TANK and not a 2H Sword DPS, SMN based on dot damage and not on summons, Bard not being a support and just being another "dipies" job.

I don't think "butchering the class" is considered a problem to the dev. team.
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>>339515634
>lets take one of the hardest bosses in the series and put it in the most casual content in the game
epic yoshi
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>>339515631
>unimportant things in places you don't normally look
>important things in places you do normally look
I'm not sure what you're getting at.

>>339515869
Yeah, my raid leader corrected that. I had full right side STR before the VIT change.
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>>339515547

Come here when you beat any EXTREME Primal, Coil or Savage modes and then you can talk about WoW a.k.a "Just following DBM instructions".
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>>339516012
>>339516025
>>339516052
>>339516072
>implying i wasn't baiting
In all seriousness I have no idea who that is I only ever played 1 2 13 and 13-2
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>>339515985

>Top monk on my server is hitting 150~200 DPS more than me

Damn.
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>>339516173
And it's not even the last boss!

At least it looks cool.
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>>339516226

Extra boss of FFIX.
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>NIN doesn't use any of their utility

kill yourself
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>>339516090

>blm uses black magicks
>drk does drk stuff from other games

UGH FUCKING G-G-GUTTED
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>>339516173


I'll be a blast if they put FFIX boss music during that fight. Like on Syrcyus tower, Ultros and Sephiroth.
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>>339511393
They can't even give us 2 boss fights anymore.

We used to get tons of shit in 2.0, now we can't even get the 2nd Warring Triad fight because they need to do a Nidhogg fight.
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>>339500268

Assets, music, whole characters and plot points... FF games tend to reference series history to some extent, but I can't recall any other that rode the "you liked this thing from that other game, right?" train this hard...
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>>339516382
>NIN uses Suiton
>never uses Trick Attack
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>>339516090
And this is my biggest issue with the game. FFXIV feels like it has no soul. It doesn't feel like an FF game beyond the names of jobs and primals and having chocobos. It's the most generic shit.
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>>339516515
they can, its just they wasted time on shit like verminion
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>>339516526
To be fair, I've never played those other games, so it's new to me!
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>>339516221
Raiding in XIV isn't much worse these days with all the ACT triggers being posted in guides
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>>339500516
Chances are Square is holding onto a few beloved jobs (Red Mage, Blue Mage, Dancer) and they're going to try to win over with nostalgia again instead of just creating fun content.

FFXIV ARR desperately needs something like Salvage/Nyzul Isle from FFXI. More content that gets people in static groups for extended periods means more people sticking around to play your game. None of this weapon grind garbage. FATEs haven't been fun in years, most dungeons can be zerged, and the early game zones are barren unless you're on one of the few extremely high pop servers.

The gear system is just retarded. Glamour is alright, but it would be awesome to make lower level rare items worth keeping. Seems retarded to grind for an entire set of Cavalry gear in Brayflox, and then 10 levels later you won't ever use a single piece of it again. It's now just trash for glamouring.
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>>339516526
Did you not play FF9? Everything about that game, including the entire story, was ripped from the previous games.
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>>339516281
What will they move onto once they run out of iconic FF bosses for that nostalgia bait? Recolored iconic FF bosses?
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>>339508534
Holy shit, that fucking filter they used for all the 3.0 zones when they were showing them off.

I forgot how scared I was that the entire game would look like that.
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>>339500697

XI still lives, but Yoshida is running SE's online division while heading XIV, so the game is treated like a red-headed stepchild. It still gets updates every month, but the propect of no more story expansions hurts.
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>>339516418

>blm uses black magicks

In all the other FF games the 3 elemental spells can deal the same damage and the player uses one based on the weakness of the enemy.
In FFXIV you use fire as damage, ice as recovering, thunder as dot.

I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just not how the original job should work.

>drk does drk stuff from other games

Here I have to disagree. DRK on other games was a job that dealt more damage in echange for it's own health. It was totally a DPS job. They destroyed this feature and turned it into "you get MP drained and can absorb HP from the enemy". Totally changed the whole purpose of the job.
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>>339516715
FF7, 9 and 10 are literally all based on the same thing.
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>>339516556
>use suiton
>tank loses hate and boss turn around
NIN opener isn't that bursty.
>use shadewalker
>still happen
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>>339516419
Did you watch the 3.3 trailer? The music playing during Ozma is the FF9 battle music remix.
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>>339501393

Wait 14 years like XI did - if XIV lasts that long.
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>>339516650

There's a diference between an addon making light effects and sounds telling you "DO THIS!, DO THAT! GO HERE! GO THERE!!" and studying a boss mechanics watching/reading a guide.
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>>339516725
Ravana was brand new.
I'd say they should get off the nostalgia train and give us more of that.
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>>339516790
desu Im glad drk is more tank because theres already a ton of dps jobs
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>>339516725
Oh, the pool is always deeper. There are only four bosses per raid (whether it's four bosses in a single 24-man, or one boss in each of four 8-man raids), and they can use even the most minor boss or NPC from over a dozen other games.
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I want to resub to this after not playing since Alexander release. Should I?
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>>339516995
No.
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>>339516915
Ravana is just a reskin boss/enemy from XI.
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>>339516995
if you want
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>>339516995
Not worth resubbing until 3.5 desu.
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>Watch as someone fantasias from a male Au Ra, to a female lalafell, to a male Roegadyn, to a female Au Ra, to a female lalafell, and finally to a female cat

What an adventure.
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>>339493776
>XV
>Polish

They're still scrambling to finish shit. Expect a big day one patch.
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>>339500697
>killed
It was already dead. All the dumb shit and nerfs that happened to 11 were your precious Tanaka.
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>>339517090
When's that? I'd want to do previous patches story quests and stuff beforehand.
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>>339496319
Japan
Doesn't
Care
About
Western
VAs
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>>339517121
They try to fight it as much they can, but in the end they know which race is the best.
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>>339516956

They should have added SAM first as Tank and later DRK.

>>339516995

At least resub for this amazing fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pdqUzOH_Hg
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>>339517224
3.3 hits next week, so in 6 months.
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>>339517224
6 months at the absolute earliest
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>>339493776
>we will never get XI-2
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>>339516843
>NIN opener isn't that bursty.
Dude what. It's the highest tps opener for DPS in the game other than MCH.
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>>339517295
Obviously they do to a degree or they wouldn't have swapped almost all of them in one go. The end result was far less pretending to be British.
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>>339498642
This is the most retarded argument I hear about 14. There are a bunch of glaring flaws and this is not one of them. They've returned enemies for the entire series. Might as well whine about there being Dragoons, Black mages and White mages too.
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>>339502589

except people are quitting BDO extremely fast because it has no content, you'll see too if you play the game for more than 3 days.

Mediah is still missing content
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>>339517482
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>>339498642
theres literally nothing wrong with this
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>>339498124
XI is not fun. Get over it. Go play it right now and tell me that you enjoy it.
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>>339517657
Previous games change the enemies while keeping the similar enough to be recognizable. FF14 just straight out uses the exact same models.
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>>339496319
You forgot to mention the person who did the raping and murder was a dindu.

England sure loves it's diversity.
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>>339496876
>understand jap
>voices are professionally done and high quality aside from Tataru who makes my ears bleed
>english voices are by 4 people in a pub in yorkshire
ye no, eat shit no wait you already are
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>>339508554

In XI a lot of optional quests help complete story points of the main story missions, or can be interesting on their own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNn6n5bDNZY

Then again, when XIV's main story quests are breadcrumbing fetch quests and the ones with actual cutscenes often have bad voice acting when they do happen, I figure one gets used to try and avoid dealing with more of the same unless necessary.
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>>339516852
From what I remember, PS3 was supposed to lose support after Heavensward. Maybe it was after the next expansion though, I don't know
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>>339517295

Except
They
Actually
Spoke
Out
About
It
Faggot
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>>339493776
>Polish
The game is Japanese anon
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>>339517508
They swapped them because the studio was changed for all of SE english voiceacting. And as someone who isn't a pleb american, I can safely say they all sound fucking terrible. It forced me to switch to Jap because it was making me cry.
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>>339517684
>Nexon
Into the trash it goes.
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>>339517808

>complete story points of the main story missions

Nigga I'm tired as fuck of the hokey story and stupid cutscenes already give me something I can actually use. I could read about the mother fucking story point on a God damn website if I really gave half a shit.
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>>339517769
It definitely was a time constraint-oriented thing, but it worked out fine and didn't feel incredibly forced. They've been better about ripping things directly, and at the very least they make new models and textures if they're going to take an enemy from XI. This was only an issue on release
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>>339517957
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>>339518027
Some of the English VAs are fantastic. Aymeric is pure sex, and Nanamo is good even though she barely gets any spoken lines. New Alphinaud is much better than the ARR one.
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>>339518184
Estinien sounds pretty fuckin neato in the new trailer too. I felt like he actually wanted to kill me
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>>339509351

With the way XIV currently works, its take on blue mage could be based on completing a hunting log on a given job at least up to a certain level to get the spells matching the mobs covered up until that level.

I'm not sure the game would support the level of customization XI allows though.
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>>339518265
Estinien and Ysayle were both great all through HW. Thordan too. Really, all the characters added for HW were good.
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>>339509592

1000 Needles wouldn't fit the way XIV's damage currently works?...
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>>339518334

It will be

>Reach lvl35
>"You, BLM, go to X, and kill that Morbol"
>Kill morbol
>"Oh! You learned a skill! come back at lvl40!"
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>>339510080
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>>339517886
It was a "maybe" which will probably mean no.
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>>339516221
It's not much different senpai.

It's just like wow if not worse encourages people to not fucking put in any effort since everything is go awful easy until raiding. Only reasons Primals aren't and will only be hard for most people.
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>>339493776

you're right, ff14 is for making money first and being a good game LAST

Everything else is for player retention and as long as they have a cash shop loaded with faggotry then they have even less of a reason to make the game more appealing. As long as there are retard fanboys that are willing to double their sub fee with retainers and garbage cosmetics then they will keep releasing mediocre content rather than diverting resources to their game to "improve" it.
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>>339510147

In XI there's some luck involved which can be bumped with equipment and keeping your BLU magic skill capped.

I don't think XIV would be quite able to handle XI's customizable take on the job, especially with the ability to set traits based on selected spells.
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>>339518649

>It's a subscription MMO
>Also has a cash shop

And I thought the Jews were bad.
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>>339517746

XI is fun and good if you play on Asura. The only populated server.
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