Why would anyone choose to play games on a consoles rather than a PC? Other than budgetary reasons, of course.
can any console owners explain? I'm not trying to shitpost, I'm genuinely curious.
>>339488204
Budgetary reasons.
>>339488204
why would anyone build one of these custom retardations when in like 4 years you are going to have to change it completely.
Ease of access, the average/casual person would most likely take one look at your OP and say "fuck that".
>>339488204
why would you post a pic of my pc?
A PC won't fit in my AV cabinet below my projector screen. Also had it since the 360 came out and the shit still works and ran new games up until 2 years ago when they stopped making it. All I use it for now is Netflix/HBO and playing old games every once and awhile.
>>339488331
>thinks four years is a short amount of time
What are you, a basement virgin that does nothing all day except watch time fly?
If they're like me then it's because of the exclusive games. Also I don't know why people keep making assumptions like you can only ever have one system. Seems to be the standard nowadays for people to have both a PC and a console of some kind.
I love my PC and the fact that it's objectionably better than the consoles on the market but sometimes it's just nicer to kick back and play a game without pissing about with the settings between quality and performance.
>>339488204
Why am I looking at a PC that looks like it came off of a Nickelodeon game show
>>339488204
What's the point of fans if it's open like that?
I like Japanese games.
Consoles still get the most Japanese games even though pc is getting more and more.
>>339489490
The fans are blowing air to cool the system
>>339488204
For one I much prefer being comfy on my couch in front of my huge TV with a nice feeling controller in my hand than hunching over a tiny ass monitor (that defeats the purpose of having higher resolutions, the only advantage PC has) while attempting to play a game on a device that was designed to be used for typing.
For two PC community is complete garbage, full of neckbeard elitists, anime ERPers and hackers.
For three I like not having to replace a CPU GPU constantly just to play new games. My consoles have cutting edge graphics for about 10 years before needing an upgrade thanks to games being optimized for them. Other than dumb graphicswhore games like Crysis, PC and console games have the exact same graphics other than resolution, which is rendered moot by the fact PC gamers play me on tiny ass monitors.
Basically you are an idiot if you fall for the PC scam.
Because consoles get all the good games. It's that simple.
>>339488204
pc
>buy game online because i cant buy discs at any store anymore
>type in pqssword
>password incorrect get emailed new password
>login
>click to buy game
>windows wants to update
>postpone
>click to buy game
>must agree to eula
>click accept
>you must scroll down first
>avast security has been updated
>scroll down, click agree
>download game
>install game
>bing "such and such wants to access your computer"
>ok
>installsheild wizard will help you install your game
>update directx
>update flash
>update lemonparty.org as homepage
>create shortcut, start tray icon, start on startup, install happy gorilla bing toolbar
>start game
>must create an account
>username already taken
>username already taken
>username already taken
>username accepted
>password must be 1400 characters, upper and lowercase, contain a special character, number, emoji, and a rare peppy
>password accepted
>click "start campaign"
>game crashes
>google problem
>fap to tranny porn
>clear search history
>google problem
>update some fucking driver
>start up game again
>forgot long password for account
>get password emailed to you
>nope must reset
>reset pass
>pass accepted
>finally play campaign
Ps4
>insert disc
>plqy game
>>339488331
>Spending 2 hours and less than a monthly salary once in 4 years is a hassle
>>339490325
>For two PC community is complete garbage, full of neckbeard elitists, anime ERPers and hackers.
Shouldn't you be begging for fallout mods somehwere?
>>339490561
you mean
>insert disc
>download update
>play game
>>339490561
>avast
>>339490325
Nah man you just seems mad for some reason. Just stay pleb
I play on both.
>>339488204
Exclusives. The ONLY reason to buy a console.
Sure emulation is possibly a matter of time.
>>339490642
I'm getting real tired of this shit. Consoles one-up was always its insert and play but less and less these days.
>>339490561
I didn't make this thread to shitpost. Maybe you could do me the same courtesy.
>>339491000
You made the thread to try and convert people
>>339488204
i like console games and too lazy and dumb to build a pc
>>339490642
>Play online-only game
>>339490990
Blame Bluray's shit read speed and dev's aversion to compressing anything.
>>339491079
Pick out the parts and get some dude at the computer store to put it together.
>>339490325
>For two PC community is complete garbage, full of neckbeard elitists, anime ERPers and hackers.
This. i rather want normies and annoying kids those manchilds
Because playing my vita in bed is frickin sweet.
>>339490561
>Ps4
>>insert disc
>>plqy game
you got install the game first then update the game
>>339490680
>>339490639
you mad pcfags?
>>339491232
Is there no Vita emulator yet?
>>339488204
Budgetary reasons and exclusives. Also handhelds are nice if you don't have a strong laptop and are rarely home.
I got a PS3 for cheap last month to play last-gen exclusives I missed and play some remade PS2 games fornostalgia. Other than that I have a 3DS and that's it.
>>339490561
PS4:
>debate on going to store
>decide to go
>feel awkward
>game is out of stock
>decide to get a different one
>wait in long line because kid is trying to convince mom to buy him the newest cod
>your turn
>it's a girl cashier
>try to talk to her while awkwardly trying to get money out of wallet
>she seems obviously disgusted of you and your fat, smelly body
>eventually she gets impatient
>you're holding up the line
>finally get your money out
>pay
>leave store, find out your car was repo'd because youve spent all your money on games and psplus
>struggle to walk home
>pass out half way there
>wake up next day naked with a gaping asshole
>cover yourself up in trash and finish the walk
>get home
>put game into ps4
>"Update required to play"
>size is 44gb
>download speed is 387kb/s because shit servers
>3 days later
>update finally done
>play game
>realise it's shit
>replay bloodborne or uncharted 4 for the 60th time
PC:
>buy game
>automatically charges your card
>download it
>done within an hour or so
>play
>>339488204
It's comfier. That's it,really.
>>339491616
>not getting games directly delivered to your house
www
>>339491616
Yeah autists may have trouble getting console games
>>339491616
>being this awkward and scared of going outside
Oh, wait, your a pcuck.
>>339491773
>order game online
>don't have amazon prime because PS4 only has like 2 games a year
>order comes out to $59.99, plus $15.99 shipping, sales tax, and tip
>takes 5 weeks to arrive
>package gets sent to the wrong address on the friday before a long weekend
>package finally comes the following tuesday
>some nigger runs up and steals it from your mailbox before you get a chance to get to it
>>339488204
Can that PC operate underwater
>>339490325
>he thinks you can't play PC on a TV and use a controller on it
thanks for proving that console fags are retarded once again
I use my pc for audio/video editing only, I work there, like hours everyday
At the end of the day I like to just sit back and relax and play some vidya on the couch with the big screen
yes, I know you can plug the pc into the big screen and play on the couch as well, but I like the immediacy of just turning on the console and playing
what's the drawback anyway? a couple of frames less and medium to low settings? I can live with that
I really don't see the point of spending 1000€/$ to buy a machine to play videogames, especially since there's no real exclusive content and most of the best games on pc were created with console hardware in mind
yes, I know you'll spout the whole LIL BUT WE EMULATIUN NAO, but I pretty much have every home console from the nes upwards, I don't really like emulation
exclusives
that's pretty much why im going to buy a ps4 a while after persona 5 hits
>>339492108
Good thing I don't have any black people in my small city
>>339488331
I've done two full builds in 10 years for less than $2000. $100 every two weeks goes into my build fund. Literally easy as fuck.
>>339488204
>That color scheme
Kill it with fire
>>339492439
>black family moves in across the street from you a week before your package arrives
>they have misbehaved children
>>339492108
>know game you want is coming out on PS4
>pre download most of it days ahead of time
>midnight of release download last bit
>enjoy game
I do have a PC but I think you underestimate how stupid a lot of people are. Most of my friends wouldn't go near building a PC and would never put in the ten minutes of effort it takes to learn. Also, some people just want a few games like whatever newest basketball shit is out. Consoles are undeniably easier and its not worth working for just a few games.
Consoles also have exclusives as well, like I have a PS4 almost entirely for Bloodborne.
>>339492643
>go to preload ps4 game
>psn servers go down as soon as you input your CC information
>account balance drained by hackers
>don't even have any discs to eat
>>339488204
Name 10 8th gen exclusives that I can play on my PC right now.
>I'm not trying to shitpost
Well, you're shitposting.
The best PC exclusives either can be played on a toaster or have performance issues that can't be brute forced with better hardware
For me, I only ever played Playstation or Xbox simply because I never knew how easy it was to build a gaming PC. I always thought the people who played on PC were rich as fuck and I would need to save up a ton of cash on order to buy a gaming rig. When I did hear about people putting together their own PCs and that it was easy as hell, I thought that I'd give it a whack. Turns out it was easy as hell.
So maybe people aren't as educated in PC building as we are?
Either way, I still play on my PS4 so I don't have to worry about exclusives and am planning on getting an Xbone as soon as it's worth it. Maybe never....
>>339488204
becauseneogaf
In my opinion is because all you gotta do is pop the game in and play without having to worry about system requirements
Then there's money off course
And also people who want to sit in their living room and play with their family or some shit
Hell they might be too stupid to build our buy their own computer correctly
Exclusives. I'm on the brink of deciding if I buy a PS4 or build a PC. I really don't want to miss FFXV, Nier and Ni No Kuni 2.
>>339488204
Nickelodeon scheme?
>>339491052
>the console war is a holy war
>>339493532
Can you buy those blimps?
>>339493314
Fucking auto correct
>>339492976
Firewatch
Unreal Tournament
Heroes of the Storm
XCOM 2
Dirt Rally
Europa Universalis IV
Warhammer total war
Grim Dawn
Battlefleet Gothic: Armada
Pillars of Eternity
Just off the top of my head. But I bet these are all shit, right?
>>339494019
I meant console exclusives. The point is that people buy consoles for exclusives.
>>339494206
>"Name 10 exclusives I can play on PC"
>list games
>"I meant console exclusives."
What
>>339490419
>consoles get all the good games
Xbone:
Madden games and netflix machine
Ps4:
Bloodborne, uncharted 4, and a fuckton of indie games
Man looks like I'll sell my pc to get those great games
>>339494206
You should have stated console exclusives then.
Again, off the top of my head.
Dead Rising 3
Forza
Killer instinct
Street fighter v
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition
Quantum break or w/e it's called
King of the fighter 34 or w/e
Ryse: Son of Rome
I'm short by two, but I really don't pay that much attention to console games. I'm sure someone else can fill in the gaps.
Console owners get the benefit of a big ass TV and the comfort of a nice couch.
>>339494662
Oh thought of two more.
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Superhot
>>339494019
I'm a pcuck and even I think that list is pretty underwhelming
>>339494662
Alot of these are on PC
>>339494772
Good for you.
>>339488204
That looks fun
>>339494772
Add any shooter because you shoudn't be playing those on a console.
>>339494797
ALL OF THEM ARE ON PC THAT IS THE FUCKING POINT. Holy shit.
>>339493850
Burger king used to have blimp toys in their kids meals way back when. I don't think you could buy a 1:1 copy of the actual awards though.
>>339488204
Those uncovered fans, though
>>339492976
>Name 10 8th gen exclusives that I can play on my PC right now.
name 10 8th gen exclusives period. this gen is a fucking wasteland
>>339490642
you also forgot
>mandatory install onto a 500GB HDD that the average person won't upgrade at 50GB to install
>>339493210
>So maybe people aren't as educated in PC building
console users are generally children so yeah. the only adults i ever met that considered console gaming a viable alternative were literal applefags
>>339495173
or maybe, ya know, people who have played consoles since consoles were invented
fucking "PC" children, only using steam, don't even know what floppies are. fuck
>>339495902
The new wave of "mastur raic" faggots might as well be on a console, since all they play is esports cancer and AAA console ports.
Exclusives
Ease of Access
Games guranteed to work
That and its better to have a console to play new games and a half decent PC to play CSGO, LoL, DotA, etc. Instead of paying a shit ton of money to only play a the same 2 games on high graphics.
I got tired of always taking a risk when buying AAA games, not even just because I didn't think my pc could run them, it's just when there is so many different problems like crashes and shit that I just don't understand how to fix. It's really hard to get into if you never know how to fix a problem. That's why I'd prefer to play some new games on console
>>339496237
>Games guranteed to work
With the amount of disasters over the past couple of years, "no".
I built a PC 5 1/2 years ago with every intention of upgrading it.
Financial and personal hardship is a bitch, though, and I decided to go the console route about a year ago due to the inability to even run some new releases.
I did help my brother build his own though, and he has been upgrading his. He just got a 4 GB graphics card and a new processor.
Makes me proud for that at least.
>>339496359
Any examples?
>>339496606
Just off the top of my head, Ass Creed Unity and Halo
>>339488925
there are htpc cases
>>339496670
1.] Nobody on this board is buying those games
2.] I imagine it still runs better than on PC where you always here about how
"X developer doesnt care about making a proper PC port"
Like how Arkham Knight isnt even playable on PC
>>339496971
At least when you buy a game on PC that doesn't work you can get a full refund.
>>339496297
Good answer, friendo. I personally do have the knowledge to solve most issues, but it's easy to forget that manu don't.
>>339496237
a half-decent PC + a console and all its related fees would add up to more than just building a good pc
>>339497398
>related fees
?
And what are you building a good PC for, DotA?
>>339498153
>related fees
xbox live and such
>DotA
i don't play mobas, no
>>339497169
I don't really know where to start too
Why would I spend +$700 on a PC only to have 30 fps more than on a console but then have to deal with shitty ports, technical difficulties, and miss out on exclusives?
Without any real exclusives, and with the rampant pirating there is, the platform will be nothing more than indie shit and f2p shooters/ MOBAs.
Also like it or not the truth is that the average PC gamer plays on either on medium settings or on a toaster and only play games like LoL, DOTA, Team Fortress etc etc. Fuck even RPGs are more popular in consoles than in PC now; the only thing PC has left is strategy games.
>>339490605
>less than a monthly salary
>>339493483
Think about it anon, for less money you don't get to miss out on those exclusives, and you get to also play every game that releases on PC. All you sacrifice is 30fps, is that really that important? Do you play games to have fun or to look at slightly prettier graphics?
>>339489025
It's a short amount of time indeed since you shit on consoles everything because of that.
>>339488204
The only thing that a PC is outright necessary for would be shooters
And I don't fucking touch shooters
>>339488204
>that case
Oh jesus christ the horror. Not because it's ugly as shit, but because it can't function as a proper case.
The whole point of a case is to have an enclosed environment to siphon air through it in a specific direction to keep temperatures low. Usually air is pulled in to the case from the front then expelled out the back.
With that case the fans are just blowing hot air out of the bottom of the case, and since it's open the hot air immediately enters circulation again. So even with water cooling, that thing will be a fucking furnace.
>>339499127
>you get to also play every game that releases on PC
holy shit PS4 got Stellaris, X Com 2 and Mount & Blade 2?
>>339499631
and strategy. and simulation. and any RPG more complicated than a zelda game.
>>339499985
>Zelda
>RPG
>>339500110
modern "rpgs" like skyrim have more in common with zelda than classic CRPGs. i don't actually think either one is an RPG, but that's what the modern industry is going to give you
The human eye can only see 28 fps anyway
>>339499808
Stellaris is literally a fucking who game, XCOM 2 is not that great, and M&B2 is possibly releasing for consoles.
Meanwhile with a PC you miss out on FFXV, Nioh, Bloodborne and whatever future exclusives that may be released.
But you make a good point, you buy a PC if you are into strategy games.
>>339499127
>All you sacrifice is 30fps
And mods, backwards compatibility, free online, controller choice, etc
>>339499985
Not true, both Divinity and Wasteland released for consoles and they play very well. Pillars of Eternity was shit.
Name me any other RPG released recently that isn't made with rpgmaker and hasn't been released on consoles.
>>339502480
>RPG released recently
that was kind of my point though, console limitations basically killed the genre
see
>>339500330
Because so far no game has made me think
>holy shit, this is so good I need to drop $1200 to play it 1440p/120fps
The ones that I would actually do that for are console exclusives. I'll build a PC one day anyway because I actually want one to play stuff like modded New Vegas, STALKER, and a bunch of PC exclusive games like Age of Decadence and several shooters on a nice 1440p monitor. Games are usually better on PC because of the higher horsepower.
Problem is, very few games warrant it in my opinion.
It's funny because a whole fuckload of once-exclusive franchises and properties have started to find their way to Steam this gen, and well console-exclusive well has started drying up
Meanwhile, all 3 major manufacturers have introduced/announced a mid-lifecycle hardware upgrade necessary to run newer games (WELL, at least)
And long gone are the days when console games could be popped in and turned on, everything has an HDD install and a constant stream of patches starting day 1
And now that the console as a concept has begun circling the drain, /v/ is full to the brim with shitposting about "pcucks" and the constant reposting of the 10 or 15 exclusive games anyone cares about in the last 15 years.
Y'all calm down, consoles dying is a good thing.
>>339502228
>you buy a PC if you are into strategy games
or if you're into being able to aim competently in any genre that requires it
Ignoring the obvious answer (exclusives), I like not having any distractions while playing on console. No steam, discord, or /v/ to tab out to. I'm always focused on whatever I'm playing, whereas when I'm playing on PC I always have something else open on my other monitor or in a different window to tab out into.
That being said, I still primarily play on pc
>>339502991
The real problem is, console games are limited to 30fps and games like fallout 4 can drop to a staggering 15 fps during gameplay. Theres no real reason to own a console this gen aside from 1st party exclusives and for last gen games that havent made theyre way to pc (eg. Red dead, catherine, ni no kuni for example).
Every other jap game this gen seems to be heading to pc so theres really no point in buying a playstation console for jrpgs(neptunia, senran, dangonronpa and the recently announced onechanbara as examples).
>>339490561
ps4
>insert game
>play game
pc
>Learn C++ programming language
>Make video games
How is that game coming along /v/
You are making games right?
>>339503679
>c++
>2016
shiggy
>>339503050
The NX is a new console after 4.5 years, only a bit short of the norm (prior to the outlier seventh generation).
Wii U games can be popped in and turned on and almost all of them work as intended/advertised on day one. Patches are infrequent.
The console as a concept is not dying. You'll still have to emulate those Nintendo games you can't play on PC.
>>339503050
>Consoles dying is a good thing
Have you considered the state PC gaming is in? Most of your games are f2p trash, or cheaply made kikestarter games. The only reason good games keep coming out is because consoles make a huge market for it, otherwise every studio would move to mobile or f2p market. Heed my words, the day consoles die is the day that gaming dies too.
Only good thing PC keep getting are niche genres like strategy
>>339503570
>Competently aim
If everyone has the same aiming handicap there's no disadvantage, secondly it isn't that fucking hard to aim with a stick I've never had any trouble with it except when I played a shooter for the first time.
>>339504014
>The only reason good games keep coming out
good games stopped coming out 16 years ago
>>339488204
>cant play exclusives on PC
>PC ports are poorly optimized and sometimes unplayable
>have to install DRM shit like EA Origin, Steam, or whatever the fuck Blizzard uses
>hackers on steroids
If I just had a PC and no consoles there are a bunch of games I could never play.
>>339504180
chalk it up to opinion if you want but i honestly cannot understand how people tolerate twin stick shooters unless they've honestly never tried anything else. anything even remotely involving shooting is effectively a PC exclusive for me personally. i never even used the guns in the first 4 metal gear solid games until they forced me for bosses. it's a nightmare.
>>339504197
If you are so jaded then why do you keep following a gaming interest board? I for one I'm having great fun with the games that are releasing this gen, give Bloodborne a try, and if you have friends Overwatch is a blast played 8 hours straight last night.
Also if good games stopped coming out 16 years ago I guess you could then buy a $300 laptop and play all of those games, no need for a $800 machine.
>>339504014
If the world worked like the console industry, you could only gas up your Honda at Honda-brand gas stations with Honda-brand gas
ANY time a closed platform dies to a more open platform, it is a good thing. If that means that multi-million dollar cinematic trash like UC goes the way of the Dodo, I'd say that's icing on the fucking cake.
Also I find it funny you blame PC for F2P when (a) that's a mobile-pioneered format, and (b) consoles were the original home of paid DLC. It used to be content patches were free and were expected to be such. But console users had no expectation of post-release support so they happily forked over cash for something PC players had gotten for free until that point.
Really we have the same thing in reverse now; on PC games that nickel-and-dime you to death are expected to be free, but console users having low expectations means they'll accept games like TF2 for a full $60 price tag, and happily shit up /v/ with Overwatch memes in their delight about it.
I just find it weird that console users will so happily pay for something given to PC users for free and then blame US for the success of the business model. Piece-meal sale of game content has ALWAYS been stronger on console.
>>339503906
What do you think games are made in?
>>339504610
>If you are so jaded then why do you keep following a gaming interest board
because my life is empty
>give Bloodborne a try
i dont like souls games
>Overwatch
trash, but at least it's entertaining trash i'll give you that
>>339504694
nowadays? most shops don't do anything more complicated than the proprietary scripting in the off the shelf engine they licensed can handle
>>339504653
Did you see the report that was released recently? The one that said PC gaming was vastly more profitable than consoles? Well if you saw that you'd see that the profitability came straight from microtransactions which wasn't the case in consoles. You have to accept that PC being an open platform as you say, attracts the kind of people who never buy a full priced game but spend $10 every month on a hat or whatever.
Also I don't think anyone blames PC gaming for that, most people just point out that its in PC that microtransactions are more rampant
>>339505139
now that consoles are moving to china and india you'll see it start there too. the only reason it didn't happen sooner is they were literally banned in china until recently.
>>339505139
I didn't see that report but I'd be interested to read it.
I'd also be interested to see how much of that was actually PC games and how much of it was lonely people forking over thousands of dollars for bullshit in Facebook games, because that's a totally different animal.
Also, I'd be interested to see how those numbers changed if only consoles had even one popular moba because those fucking games are like cash-guzzling autismo-magnets and I'm not sure that their almost accidetal success really says much about the kind of games console expats would be playing.
Because anybody who forsees a world where the death of consoles means LoL is the only game on PC is being stupid.
>>339504527
While I'm not primarily a PC gamer I have played a couple of fps on PC and then played them on consoles and honestly my aim is the same on both platforms. Granted console games have a bit of auto aim to compensate but I can't say that I find a huge difference between both control schemes.
>>339488204
I like to relax and play vidya. Not look like a fucking nerd close to a little ass screen. Face it people with consoles have lives. While people who play on pc's have no lives. Its the truth.
Because money, but also I'm just fucking lazy and don't want to deal with all the headaches that come with building, setting up, and managing a PC. I've been a console fag my whole life and it's what I'm used to. I like Playstation's exclusives and spending a gorillian dollars for a pc when all I wanted was to play overwatch is a huge waste.
My PC is a toaster. I can run up to the Witcher 1 and dark souls pretty easily but anything after that run like hell and I make 30 grand a year so I'm in no hurry to upgrade.
>>339505536
guess it's just preference then.
after last gen, though, with nothing but shooters as far as the eye can see, and the fact that i got both the red ring and yellow light on my 360/PS3 and was basically told to go fuck myself by tech support, i'm just fucking done with consoles. this generation has been such a trainwreck so far i haven't missed out on anything yet.
>>339505527
Here you go senpai
https://newzoo.com/insights/articles/global-games-market-reaches-99-6-billion-2016-mobile-generating-37/
I never said LoL would be the only Game but I do think that the vast majority of games will follow its business model
>>339492108
No excuse not to have prime anon.
>>339498906
If you buy by parts? yeah.
>>339502883
>Divinity and Wasteland
Those games got ruined cause it had to be ported to shit tier consoles.
>>339505994
Nah.
If games like Smite teach (intelligent) studios anything, it's that the LoL/Dota 2 model just doesn't translate well. After LoL's runaway success, a bunch of studios tried to make other games that ran on the multiplayer-driven F2P microtransaction based format but none of them have quite caught on in the same way.
Sort of how subscription-based online was all the rage for a time after WoW's runaway success.
Or how everyone needed a controller gimmick after the runaway success of Wii Sports.
What these things all have in common is that they were errant blips that did nothing to fundamentally change the way the games market works (even though everyone swore they would).
Everything returns to median in the end, there have been precious few trajectory-altering moments.
The one thing bad that I would say is likely if PC becomes the predominant platform would be an increased emphasis on user-generated content. I think shit like Steamworks and paid mods would blow the doors wide open for games built as half-finished frameworks for paying customers to actually design content for.
>>339488331
My first build lasted me about 6 years and I just built this one last Fall
Both only ran me ~$1200 each, and that's counting monitors and shit.
>>339504694
java
>>339488204
I move a lot, and I'm worried about screwing up the innards of my PC if I built.
My buddy got me a list for around 600$ for a decent desktop in a small case. I've already got a TV I can use as a monitor. Should I go for it, /v/? Will a desktop survive a move every month or so?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kYzwt6
>>339488204
Because Nintendo will forever be exclusive to themselves.
Why do pc faggots think that all their needs are fixed with just a pc?
The only people who fucking play on one choice of Console are poor fags and retards.
There's literally no reason to only own one choice of toy.
>>339505610
you're right I can't hook my pc up to a tv and play games. I forgot how shitty pc is at letting me do what I want
>>339490325
>For one I much prefer being comfy on my couch in front of my huge TV with a nice feeling controller in my hand
I love to do the same...with my pc.
>>339490325
>that defeats the purpose of having higher resolutions, the only advantage PC has
nice bait desu
>>339507257
>Buying Windows
>>339496971
>Like how Arkham Knight isnt even playable on PC
Then how did I finish it on the first week? Stop buying the consolenigger narrative. Only people with shit pcs couldnt run the game.
>>339507257
stop spamming this everywhere
>>339506984
i dont care about nintendo games
>>339507521
You have to for the pro version to use a couple of it's features.
>>339507749
>Using Windows 10
Come on anon
>>339507280
Your mommy payed for that pc.
>>339507745
>I don't care about x thing.
>So x thing doesn't count as a reason.
Are you retarded, by chance?
>>339507836
you got me bro, everyone on 4chan is 14 just like you
>>339508168
It's a reason for me to own only a PC. I don't give a shit about nintendo games because none of them appeal to me.
So yeah, it doesnt count as a reason in my case because it doesnt apply to me. Neck yourself nintoddler
>>339508378
Give me one reason to own a pc over an Xbox one or ps4.
>>339508651
no I don't care about convincing people on an anonymous imageboard
>haha that means i win the argument
yep congrats you've won an argument on the internet
>>339508817
Simmer down, you stupid fucko.
>>339508168
you're awfully defensive
>>339488331
>changing build completely every 4 years
Are you a retard?
You can keep the PSU, case, drives, sometimes even the RAM and cooling unit if you didn't buy shit stuff the first time around.
>>339488204
Many people use computers at work, or for work. And they just want to relax in a couch and change settings when playing games.
Also many still consider the "put disc and play" is a thing and want to avoid the troubleshooting that comes with PC.
Money is also a big factor, another reason could be that its easier to just pick a console than putting together an enthusiasts gaming PC (choosing and buying parts etc)
Many reasons come to mind, its not that hard.
>>339488204
besides what u said, budget, there's...
>no need to upgrade every 18months to be on par with new tech in games
>no drop off in fps every time a newer game comes out
>console wont be a brick in 4yrs, it will still have new AAA games released, most more optimized and better looking that launch titles (backwards compared to PC)
>PC building is a planned out process and investment, console is just a purchase at walmart
>im not interested in 1440p or 4k or 3 monitor displays... my console on one screen is perfectly fine
>before 2016 I would argue I cant have my forza or GT on PC... buuuut that has changed, slightly.
>i upgrade my pc every 4yrs+, mine is close to 6 because Im holding back since my xbox one is currently the cheap alternative. But I will upgrade, just dont have to right now.
>as mentioned, its an investment. nvidia 1070/1080s are here, time to plan an investment... but xb1 will do for now.
Holy shit console autism everywhere. There are actual cons to PC, but none of them are listed in this thread.
>Windows 10
As a gamer - You will be practically forced into this OS. You should not be happy about this, it isn't that bad but it can get pretty fucking annoying.
>Launchers
Holy fuck why does everyone need their own? Steam, Uplay, Origin, B.net, etcetc.
>Screen Tearing
If you have it your only solution is a high end monitor. If you have it and want to play on your 65" 4k TV? Well get used to it.
>2160p HDMI2
Works like ass. When will TV companies switch to display port?
>Coil whine
Shits annoying.
>Xbone controller
Doesn't work in many games without software to custom map buttons. Thanks M$. Your own controller doesn't work with W10 properly.
Some of the shit above is actual reasons I get annoyed at PC gaming. Most of the reasons previous posters have listed are non-existent. Hackers? Really? I haven't run into this in years to a point it affected my play. Can't plug into the TV? Lol? Gamepads? You only have the choice of any ever made.
Do yourself a favor non-poor anons. PC, Ps4, Wii U. It's the actual master race, Wii U is optional, IE: For people with friends.
>>339513676
>>Screen Tearing
>console games can't have screen tearing
>>339513676
>Windows 10
Literally nothing wrong with it
>Launchers
If PCfags weren't such criminal pirates who didn't pay for anything we wouldn't need these
>Screen Tearing
Implying consoles don't have that problem
>2160p HDMI2
Why the fuck aren't you using an actual monitor?
>Coil whine
Not a big issue if you buy from quality manufacturers
>Xbone controller
A baby could set one of these up on PC
Why would anyone choose a console over a PC for budgetary reasons?
You can build an equal or slightly better PC for the same cost as a console, but also don't have to pay for online services in addition to your own internet costs, and you have many many many more free titles on PC, especially if you include emulation, AND you can use a PC for non-gaming things, like, idk, writing an essay for school or some shit.
>>339492089
Nope I'm a sonycuck
>>339514160
>Literally nothing wrong with it
Uninstalls software
BSOD last month with the latest nvidia drivers
Re-assigns default software
If you actually disable winupd startup, you can no longer use half your basic shit. Not even calculator.
In every way slower than win7 and 8/8.1
>If PCfags weren't such criminal pirates who didn't pay for anything we wouldn't need these
This has nothing to do with me but is still an annoyance I must deal with. Don't try to pretend it's not a con.
>Implying consoles don't have that problem
Haven't seen it much lately.
>Why the fuck aren't you using an actual monitor?
I have both, don't you have friends to play co-op on your TV with?
>Not a big issue if you buy from quality manufacturers
If you say so friendo, my EVGA 780 Ti had it pretty bad. Asus had it worse. MSI is garbage tier and anything lower than that is just a joke.
>A baby could set one of these up on PC
Confirmed for not owning one. Even with 3rd party software, the xbone controller causes many titles to not even start. Google that shit before you talk anon, it's an actual issue.
>inb4 proof of actual monitor
>>339512521
If you're willing to settle for an Xbox/ps4, why am I unable to settle for an equally underpowered gpu?
Why is it that I'm "forced" to upgrade? I can settle for worse graphics/resolution/fps if I want to. The only difference is that you're forced to.
>>339504014
The idea that the industry would die if the hypercasual console market died is absurd. Developers would just have to go back to smaller budgets and making games that target demographics actually WANT, and maybe have to compete to make good games again. Consoles dying would strangle big companies that rely on their sales, who are usually the ones churning out "muh widest audience for most shekels" garbage anyway. Consoles dying would be fantastic
>>339488204
woah that rig looks like a fuckin nerf gun
>>339504180
Try playing a shooter on console with autoaim off. Controllers are terrible for shooters.
>>339488204
>want to play Ubisoft or EA game
>don't want to install Uplay or Origin
Pc has some really lame controller support. A buddy of mine and me had to jump through some serious hoops to get SFV pc to let us have player 1 on keyboard and player 2 on 360 controller. I hope in the future pc gets more convenient controller support (just let me choose if a controller should be player one or two for christ sakes)
>>339488204
>open case with air cooling
That's probably one of the most retarded things I've ever seen.
>>339516020
Problem with devs, not the platform. Skullgirls has no issues with this
>>339494797
>forza
>pc
Cuckpex doesn't count
>>339516103
You're retarded
>>339488204
Exclusives and also split screen games
1. My casual friends still only game on console, and I have fun playing with them. I tried to convince them to get a gaming PC too, but half are too poor, and the other half needs their Gears of War and Bloodborne.
2. Where my sorely outdated PC is, my wife uses her other one for photography. She just spent 1500 on a shitty Apple, but won't let me build one for half that cost unless I use it for business reasons.
3. I've had some decent experience with exclusives like Natural Selection 2 and modding older games, but otherwise it doesnt seem like a big deal. 60 fps every game is fucking sweet and should be the standard though. Fuck consoles in that regard.
>>339490325
I really hope you're joking. Console gamers can't be this stupid.
Paying more money for the same games? no thanks, PS4 has every relevant game plus japanese exclusives, i also already have a toaster for old PC games and indieshit, which is all PC is good for nowadays
>>339488204
As a player of both PC and console, I choose console as my primary gaming system because the PC gaming community is full of middle/upper class spoiled brats who are only childs. 'PC Master Race' folk are tantamount to vegans(you know which ones I'm talking about) and feminists(you know which ones I'm talking about)...but vegans and feminists combined, so much worse.
>>339490561
It takes me no more than 1 minute to buy a game on Steam, you must be doing something wrong or you've never even tried. Also, it is long gone that consoles allow you to insert disc and play, unless you're still on PS2.
>>339488331
You can upgrade your PC any time you want. You can upgrade it every single month, or you could upgrade it once every 10 years. Whereas new consoles come out every 5 years.
>>339516781
>Also, it is long gone that consoles allow you to insert disc and play, unless you're still on PS2.
Why do PC retards keep spouting these lies?
>>339492185
Yes.
Also, whether games will work or not on your rig is random, whether you have a good one or not the game may still not work. Console doesn't have that problem....but PC Master Race enjoy these kind of problems because it's the biggest problem they will ever have in their life.
>>339516931
>Whereas new consoles come out every 5 years.
Try 3 we already know the neo is coming out and I wouldn't be surprised if sony releases another one after 2 years given that the new xbox will shit on the neo
>>339488204
>Why would anyone choose to play games on a consoles rather than a PC?
I'm not a graphics whore, I like physical copies of media I buy, I like controllers better than M+KB, I like Japanese games, I like having a separate machine to play video games on so I won't get distracted by other things on my PC, I don't want to have to install Windows, I hate Steam, and consoles just werk.
>'m not trying to shitpost
Don't even need to read the thread to know that's what's going to happen. The PC gaming meme has gone way too fucking overboard since that Yahtzee video where all the Reddit manbabies took "le PC Master Race" meme seriously and decided they need to act like vegans by declaring how enlightened and superior they are for playing with children's toys at higher resolutions and frame rates. It used to be tolerable, but with the flood of people not from 4chan on /v/ it's just gotten worse and worse.
>>339516969
Because I witnessed my friend installing a PS4 game for the first time.
Consoles have more games which appeal to me.
>>339488204
Games are developed for consoles.
>>339517014
>Also, whether games will work or not on your rig is random
go educate yourself
>>339517085
It depends on the game, but it usually takes less than a minute to start playing the game
Also Steam is trash, there are way more overt casuals on Steam than console...all those casuals obsessed with the bs level system. At least with trophies and achievements scores it actually requires you to play the game. Whereas on Steam you can have a casual shopping trip buying a bunch of crap for a game you have played for 2 hours cause you were idling on the menu waiting for trading cards to drop and the rest of the hours are you idling on the menu clocking in hours so it looks like you've played it more because you're such an elite gamer. On console you can't put a stupid picture of your face all over your profile and treat it like Facebook...thank god.
>>339517417
You're joking, right? You can't install and update games that fast.
>>339517506
>mfw even the literal facebook integration on consoles isn't as bad as what they let autists do on their Steam profiles
>>339517403
I have plenty of games that don't work on my rig. 'Educate yourself', are you five?
>>339517532
Do you even have a PS4? Because i do, and all games take very few time to start, except for DOOM, they just install the minimum to start playing and then the rest installs while you play
>>339517506
i remember when my friend got into cs go skin trading/gambling and shit and i never would have believed that this type of autistic shit existed if i hadn't experienced it second hand.
Myths:
>But I like to sit on a couch
You can sit on a couch and use a keyboard and mouse, I'm doing it right now.
>But I like to use a controller
You can use a controller on PC
>But I don't want to pay $5,000 and have to upgrade it every week
If you pay $1,000 you will have a PC twice as strong as current gen consoles that will last a long time, and you can upgrade as frequently or as infrequently as you want. You also don't have to buy a new mother board, power supply, case, or hard drive every time you upgrade. If you're smart, and if you play a lot, PC gaming is actually cheaper than console gaming, when you factor in the price of games and the amount of games playing on PC gives you access to.
>But consoles are more convenient / ease of access
I can click 2 times right now, and I'd be in a game. Doesn't get much more convenient than that. Consoles have long start up times and mandatory upgrades that take a long time to download, and it's not convenient having the games you play spread across 5 different platforms. I'd rather have them all on one convenient system, which is pretty much my setup aside from a few exceptions which I have a Wii U for. It's so convenient having 99% of my games on PC and only having one console.
>But PC is all about graphics
PC is about more, better, and cheaper games. Just because it also has better graphics doesn't mean that's what it's all about. It is better in every significant way.
Console-exclusive releases and that most of my friends still play on consoles. I still play games on my PC though.
>>339517953
>If you pay $1,000 you will have a PC twice as strong as current gen consoles that will last a long time
At least you are not one of those faggots that say you can build a decent gaming PC for $350
Also
>Implying console games don't have sales
>>339517718
there's no reason games shouldn't work for you unless your rig is not powerful enough or you aren't using Windows
>>339517403
>>339518325
>works on my machine LOL
My favorite PC gaming meme.
>>339518403
oh you're just shitposting
>>339518325
Or there's some other shit on your PC that you downloaded like a dumbass and it screws performance
>>339518325
The new Doom and Dark souls 3 crash randomly on some rigs, even if they have the required spec, just check steam reviews and forums
exclusives
only exclusives, really.
>>339518469
Random crashes (usually) get patched out.
>>339518454
You're the one shitposting if you genuinely believe there's no way for a PC game to have problems except through user error.
>>339490325
>that defeats the purpose of having higher resolutions, the only advantage PC has
I bet you're one of those people that asks why phones have 4k resolution now.
>My consoles have cutting edge graphics for about 10 years before needing an upgrade thanks to games being optimized for them
Top kek.
>>339518325
It's powerful enough and yes I use Windows. I'm not the only one who has the problems either. Also some of my friends have more powerful machines than mine and they too have issues with certain games, that they cannot find fixes for.
>>339488204
Aren't the fans a lot less efficient in this kind of caseless build?
>>339518663
You keep saying you and your friends have lots of problems, but you haven't posted which games you have problems with yet.
>>339518469
Yeah, I've never had issues with a game on my Playstation. Never frozen, lagged up, whatever. Unlike PCs, it runs every game with no problem for good.
>>339518776
too bad there's a history of games/servers not working on release for plenty of console games as well
>>339488204
wrist of my mouse hand gets irritated easily
can't play as much as i used to now
>>339518776
>getting this pissed off and passive-aggressive because someone dared to point out that PC games more often than not don't work flawlessly and usually launch with issues
I wouldn't put "a few seconds of lag" and "multiple crashes in a row" in the same category, either.
I have both. Exclusives. And most games are developed for consoles, so you get gimp education no matter how powerful your hardware is. Triple monitor is cool, but lack of physical copies is lame
>>339488204
Mainly used my pc for mmo's but that whole genre is shit now so I prefer getting comfy on the couch & playing something with a good story like uncharted 4.
Plus pc games are full of cheaters
>>339506726
Kek, not.
>>339518576
Not the case for Dark souls 3, yet PC players claim its the "definitive" version when literally the only positive they have is 60 fps
>>339518907
The thing is if the devs are worth a shit they will fix it, and once its fixed everyone will play fine because all consoles are identical, with PC some crash issues never get fixed because they only appear on certain hardware, the minority that uses that hardware gets fucked until they upgrade
>>339518732
I imagine they might be less necessary, though, since it's not enclosed and trapping heat in a case. Balances out, but you probably need less fans. Just a guess.
>>339518907
I meant to be sarcastic, but I definitely could have done so better
>>339519009
How did my post come off as pissed off and passive aggressive in any way?
You can take much more action to fix PC problems anyways, instead of waiting for a patch.
>>339488331
Almost six years and counting boyo
>>339519409
>Just recode the game to fix it lol
>>339518734
Because no one wants to hear about me or my friends personal experience in problems with some games that are unplayable on our systems? Apart from you of course who very worryingly has it in their head that I have any reason to lie about it.
>>339517506
The whole Fallout 4 modding thing kinda proved just how retarded console gamers can get though.
>>339490325
>For one I much prefer being comfy on my couch in front of my huge TV with a nice feeling controller in my hand than hunching over a tiny ass monitor (that defeats the purpose of having higher resolutions, the only advantage PC has) while attempting to play a game on a device that was designed to be used for typing.
You can still use controllers, you can hook your PC to any amount of TV you want.
>For two PC community is complete garbage, full of neckbeard elitists, anime ERPers and hackers.
Wow, look at that hot opinion!
>For three I like not having to replace a CPU GPU constantly just to play new games. My consoles have cutting edge graphics for about 10 years before needing an upgrade thanks to games being optimized for them. Other than dumb graphicswhore games like Crysis, PC and console games have the exact same graphics other than resolution, which is rendered moot by the fact PC gamers play me on tiny ass monitors.
Consoles, cutting edge graphics and 10 years can't be mixed in the same sentence.
2/10 apply yourself
>>339516991
We're talking about current gen consoles. GC/PS2 era was fantastic, but it's only been downhill from there.
>>339488204
Look I've had a gaming quality PC for 9 years. At about 4 years I couldn't run the newest shit very well, and at 6 I couldn't run them at all.
Upgrading isn't feasible, and buying a new rig isn't feasible money wise, so I opted for a console. Cheaper, can still play the new multiplats, and the performance is never an issue.
Plus PC exclusives and steam in general have been on a decline in quality since then so it was just time. Gaming on the couch is also a nice change.
>>339519515
>You need to 'recode' a game to fix any possible issues
Huh
>>339519708
you are just proving his point
>>339518591
>You're the one shitposting if you genuinely believe there's no way for a PC game to have problems except through user error.
Yeah, it can happen, nobody is denying that. It can also happen on consoles.
But on PC at least 99.99% of times it IS user error. For long long time ago my friend asked me to fix his computer because his graphics were acting weird and slow. I took a look and noticed he had two different sets of graphic drivers installed which conflicted with eachother. Uninstalled both and reinstalled the newer ones. User error.
I have a pretty decent PC, but I prefer to play games on my PS4 because it's usually more convenient. At a certain point I just get tired of fiddling with settings to maximize performance (my OCD doesn't help) and installing drivers. I'd rather leave all the fiddling to the people who are payed to do so: the developers.
>>339490325
You can connect PC to your TV
Why the fuck do you care about community?
and you don't need to upgrade all the time
Holy fucking shit do yourself a favor and take cyanide pills
>>339520021
I like it when a solution to fixing a game on PC is "uninstall everything on your computer and deactivate your firewall/anti-virus CAUSE SOMETHING IS CONFLICTING maybe"
>>339520021
It happens way more on PC, lots of games release with crashing issues, but since it works on the newest hardware they never get fixed and people who try to save money by not upgrading have to deal with them
>its a "consolefags prove how retarded they are and get roasted by people with a triple digit IQ" episode
>>339519813
>I couldn't buy a PC that is cheaper than consoles but still runs better
>I couldn't get fucking parts to upgrade
The performance is never an issue if you aren't a lazy slob
>>339517021
>I'm not a graphics whore
You don't need to focus on graphics whilst on pc
>Physical copies
We have that
>Controllers
You can literally use xbox or ps controllers on pc
>I like japanese games
We have too many of those
>Wont get distracted
Consoles have netflix + internet and other media as well
>Don't want to install Windows
You dont have to. Theres games for mac and linux.
>I hate steam
You dont have to use steam. Plenty of other platforms
>Consoles just work
That's really not an argument. PC's work.
We also tend to save more money than you guys. I understand that you're gonna fight for what you have since you don't play on pc. PC Master Race is just a meme to remind you guys that no matter how you spin it, PC is the more reliable choice.
Maybe I'm just autistic or something but I like the customization of PC games. Full scale modding or even just post-processing effects like SweetFX/ENB. The feeling of cranking everything up on newer games just to see what it adds, or downsampling older games to 4k. So many different options for hardware, overclocking, watercooling and even crazy cooling stuff you see on Youtube. I can turn my fans quiet when I'm not pushing the hardware so it's basically silent. There's just so many things you can do besides just playing the game. yeah consoles have limited hardware modding sometimes, I remember me and my friends messed with an Xbox back in the day and installed a bunch of emulators. But still it's so limited.
>>339491323
No, they weren't as lucky as with the PSP.
No cfw either
>>339521024
>I couldn't buy a PC that is cheaper than consoles but still runs better
Thats bullshit and you know it, inb4 potatomasher or other shit
>>339517021
>I'm not a graphics whore
Okay? But paying more for locked hardware is dumb, and you can get console graphics for dirt cheap.
>I like physical copies
What difference does it make you blubbering autist
>I like controllers better
Plug in a controller
>I like Japanese games
They're on Steam too, weaboo
>I won't get distracted by other things on my PC
Oh I understand. You're just a disgusting autistic shitbag like all the other consolefags on this board.
>>339520580
>Knowingly use old hardware on a brand new game
>"Why do I have problems! My rig should still run new games fine!"
>>339521287
>Have to upgrade every couple of years to avoid issues
Exactly
>>339521187
I can guarantee that for the same price, if not less, than a console, you can buy a PC with shitty graphics but 60fps. Either with buying parts and giving them to a tech guy, or just a prebuilt
And considering you're playing on a console, you most likely don't care about graphics
>>339520243
As far as I know you don't play online multiplayer games with bots usually.
Are you a bot?
>>339521389
>Have to buy a new console every few years to play new games at all
Nice
>>339521402
>I care this much about people when I'm playing a game
Hell, its not like console is any better with the legions of fucking children on CoD and Battlefield
>>339521280
>on steam too
Seriously lol
Why are PC gamers so much like vegans?
>>339521601
Why are console gamers much like special ed children?
>>339521401
Prove it then
>>339521534
>Buying a consoles every 7-10 years vs buying a graphics card every 2 years and everything else every 3 to 4 years
So you had the same hardware for 9 years, and yet you couldn't save up enough money to upgrade at any point in time? Yet you could afford a new console? So $350 is perfectly fine, but $600 is way too expensive and out of your price range.
>>339521845
Meant for this.
>>339519813
>>339521737
>Buying a consoles every 7-10 years vs buying a graphics card every 2 years and everything else every 3 to 4 years
7th gen was an exception. It usually lasts about 5 years. Hell, 8th gen is like 3 years old and Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are already releasing new hardware soon.
>>339521697
Why is Steam like what Tumblr is for feminists but for PC 'gamers'?
>>339521029
>>Physical copies
>We have that
Barely, you have a code in a box nowadays, once its redeemed the physical part is useless
>>I like japanese games
>We have too many of those
And you are still missing a shitload more
>>Don't want to install Windows
>You dont have to. Theres games for mac and linux.
Dont kid yourself most games are windows only
>>I hate steam
>You dont have to use steam. Plenty of other platforms
Again, its the only choice for a lot of games
>>Consoles just work
>That's really not an argument. PC's work.
PCs have to troubleshoot way more than consoles have to
>We also tend to save more money than you guys
How so? consoles are cheaper upfront, also you there are always game deals on retail stores locally or online, plus you can buy used games for even cheaper
>>339520483
That isn't a solution, it's for retarded children like you who can't into computers.
>>339521737
>7-10
PS4's already 2.5 years old and we know the neo is coming soon
If the new xbox is that much stronger you can expect another model in 2 years. All while paying for online
Frankly a console is more expensive long term these days
>>339521737
>Buying parts so shit they become unusable in 2-4 years
Wew
Also, with PCs you can just lower graphic settings to run newer games faster, (and still better than consoles), for quite some time.
>>339489645
This. I own a pc and I'm thinking about buying a ps4 for weebshit.
>>339522186
Did you not get the joke, kid? Also, what the hell does "who can't into computers" mean? It's amusing you think learning about computers to fix a game is difficult.
>>339521737
>buying a graphics card every 2 years and everything else every 3 to 4 years
But you don't do that at all, you fucking retard.
Who buys a new power supply, case, RAM, etc. every 3 years?
Graphics card is the only thing where you might be right, but even then you could just not run everything on ultra, it will still look better and preform better than a console with 512mb of ram.
>>339522063
>>339522256
>Ps1 released on 1994 and got new games until 2004-2005
>Ps2 released on 2000 and got new games until 2013-14
>ps3 released on 2006 and is still getting games
Also the neo wont replace the ps4
>>339522421
>what the hell does "who can't into computers" mean
Hi newfriend
>It's amusing you think learning about computers to fix a game is difficult.
For console retards, yes.
That's the joke.
>>339522072
Why is it that PC users are lazy OCD ridden fucks that can focus on basic shit for 12 seconds?
>>339521737
Literally Google parts, faggot.
>>339522308
>>339522435
>But you don't have to
Yes you do if you want to avoid hardware specific crashes and bugs, did you read my other posts?
>>339522568
Because someone who plays on a console has never used a PC...nice logic. Googling is only hard for you, that's the joke.
>>339498906
I work a shit job and make like 1800 a month. It's misleading because about 300 of that is "savings" money but it's not unreasonable
>>339522591
So you cant prove it
>>339522143
Why does physical copies matter?
If there are so many Japanese games on PS4, then tell me, which ones do you own that aren't on PC?
Macs are shit, but Linux has the ability to emulate windows software
Why do you hate Steam?
PC games have more troubleshooting because developers like Ubisoft are scumbags who don't optimize for PC
And considering Steam is known for its dirt cheap sales, piracy, and the fact you can get a decent PC for less than 300 bucks, PC is cheaper
>>339522556
Getting new games doesn't mean it's relevant
A shitty indie game could run on a 15 year old toaster card, but that doesn't make it relevant
>>339522679
>Running game at lower settings causes problems
Wew
>Having the RISK of encountering some issues is worse than being unable to play the game at all
WEW
>>339522939
Why do I have to spoonfeed you?
To stroke your retarded consolefag boner?
>>339522802
Well considering console gamers are so dumb they can't move giant box from counter to TV, yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they can't use a PC
>>339488204
You're acting like the choice is between one and the other. I have both. If you're asking why I use one more than the other, I generally use consoles more because I have more games on console than pc. Most of the games I play legitimately are not available on pc and they're not even exclusive. It's that simple.
>>339523325
>Most of the games I play legitimately are not available on pc
>and they're not even exclusive
what>
>>339522948
>and the fact you can get a console tier gpu for less than 300 bucks
ftfy
>>339488204
a console is much more comfortable, cheaper and easier to deal with. also, the exclusives are a plus.
>>339523447
No, you can get a PC thats around 300-400 dollars that can run games at shite graphics, but still get 60fps
Which I mean if you consolefags are right about one thing, graphics don't matter
>>339488204
Well, I'm normal.
>>339523184
PC gamers really are vegans. As someone who plays both PC & consoles, it's embarrassing. There are console players who make consoles look bad, the ones that you hate, but don't you realise you are the PC equivalent to them?
>>339488204
Also, playing natively with a joystick is very, very good (not all games support joystick on PC and many are problematic with it).
>>339523556
>comfortable
How?
>cheaper
Disproven mutliple times in this thread, a low-tier PC is around same cost as console
>easier to deal with
If you can't toggle with opinions for like 10 seconds you need to get on ADHD meds
>exclusives
So Uncharted and Bloodborne?
During the time these were out I was playing a lot more than just two games
>>339523409
Only ps4 game I have that is available on pc is valkyria chronicles. Neptunia vii is confirmed for pc but not available yet. I have:
-vc1 remaster
-neptunia vii
-edf 4.1
-disgaea 5
-utawarerumono: itsuwari no kamen
-natusiro highschool
-summon night 6
-yakuza ishin
-yakuza zero
-yakuza kiwami
-omega quintet
-gravity daze
-yoru no nai kuni
-senran kagura estival versus
Upcoming releases of ys8, black rose valkyrie, and idolmaster. I play a ton of games on pc as well, but I would never skip these games just because they're not on pc.
>>339523772
>if you engage in debate with people who are so dumb they think you next to change PC parts every 2 years you are worse than them
>>339522948
>Why does physical copies matter?
Because of the options you have with them, you can sell them, borrow them, play them on any console, they are not linked to an account
>If there are so many Japanese games on PS4, then tell me, which ones do you own that aren't on PC?
Just from the top of my head gravity rush, digimon cyber sleuth, disgaea 5, bloodborne, EDF, vanillaware games etc
>Macs are shit, but Linux has the ability to emulate windows software
Which has issues, in the end its better to simply use windows
>Why do you hate Steam?
I dont, but i wish there were more viable options
>PC games have more troubleshooting because developers like Ubisoft are scumbags who don't optimize for PC
Its still your problem
>And considering Steam is known for its dirt cheap sales, piracy, and the fact you can get a decent PC for less than 300 bucks, PC is cheaper
Consoles have sales too, and no, for 300 bucks, looking at logical increments, you get 4gb ram and r7 240, you literally cant run some games with that ram, DS3 for example
>>339488204
Cheaper, guaranteed support for 5+ years, and I can be comfy with a controller without getting rekt by kb+m. And more friends on console
>>339523447
You can get a console-tier GPU for under $150. For $200 you'll consistently blow the PS4 out of the water, and for $300 you're getting getting pretty much double the performance.
You can find a console-tier CPU by looking through the dumpster outside of any office building.
>>339523857
>>cheaper
>Disproven mutliple times in this thread, a low-tier PC is around same cost as console
You dont get to play games nearly as well as console for that price, sometimes they wont be playable with the 4gb ram you get with such a cheap pc build
>>339524281
Which are these magical GPUs you talk about? Because it seems to me you are talking out of your ass
>>339521280
>You're just a disgusting autistic shitbag like all the other consolefags on this board
>IF YOU DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN ME YOU'RE A FUCKING AUTISTIC WEEABOO SHITBAG REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Heh
>>339523902
Shhh, EOPs don't understand that there are games released for PS4 that don't get worldwide releases.
>>339523857
I said exclusives were a PLUS, totally not the determinant factor here (unless we're talking about Nintendo, which has shit exclusives anyway IMO).
A low tier PC comes nowhere near a console in terms of performance, especially when getting to the end of the generation.
>>339523902
Aren't most of those already coming to PC/planned to come to PC?
>>339523973
You know you can trade Steam accounts with friends and play games right?
The issues with Linux emulation are hardly a problem. I know people who do it all the time. Fuck, there are probably tons of people on /g/ who do use emulation
Its a problem because developers make it a problem. And beside, PC games hardly have any problems unless its Ubisoft or EA
And where did you get these "logical increasements" from? My friend own like 400 dollar hardware and he runs DS3 just fine. Not graphically well, but FPS is decent.
>>339524769
>>339524313
>in terms of performace
>you don't get to play will
Consoles run games at 30 fps and bare minimum graphics.
I can buy console tier hardware for cheap and still manage to get a decent FPS.
>>339524751
But most of those games are available in english. The only ones that really have no chance of localization are utawarerumono and idolmaster. And fuck, I forgot futari no hakuoro is coming out soon too.
>>339524841
None of them are. Vc1 is on pc and neptunia vii is confirmed. That's 2/18 games, hardly "most". Much closer to "basically none" since it's really only one new game and an ancient port.
>>339524541
Go on Google, Newegg, /g/
You have a gateway to information, use it
>>339524953
Depends on the game. Many aaa games are now 900/60 on console. Most japanese games on console are 1080/60. When 4k becomes standard you'll be able to meme again that pc ports are superior, but as console hardware improves, diminishing returns eliminate the difference in performance for the average end user. The only people who don't get 1080/60 on console are shit tier developers who don't even develop decent pc versions either, like ubishit.
>>339524541
You can buy a 750ti for like $100 and it will usually hit PS4 performance unless the game is a shitty PC port. If not you can OC it and it will usually come out ahead. 950 is the "new" budget card, for $150 you can usually beat PS4. $200 will get you a 960 or 380 which far exceed PS4 capabilities. I've owned a 960 and can play pretty much any new game at 1080p/60 with medium or even high settings.
>>339520243
Who is this semen demon?
>>339524841
>You know you can trade Steam accounts with friends and play games right?
Which violates the ToS and might get your account suspended
>Its a problem because developers make it a problem. And beside, PC games hardly have any problems unless its Ubisoft or EA
Its still is a problem for PC users in the end, and besides its not exclusive to ubisoft or EA, DS3 has crashing issues so does the new doom
>And where did you get these "logical increasements" from? My friend own like 400 dollar hardware and he runs DS3 just fine. Not graphically well, but FPS is decent.
From the logical increments page, You first said less than 300 bucks, nice backpedaling
>>339525262
That's because you're playing undemanding games. For instance, if you tried to run bf4 at 1080/60 with a 750, you would get 50fps with drops on high. That's pretty comparable to the ps4 version of the game, which is 900/60 with drops with visuals comparable to a mixture of medium and high settings. And that's not even a brand new game, bf4 is a 3 year old game. So your 750ti was on par with ps4 at launch, certainly not now.
>>339525262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_uPeLhQ8L8
inb4 you call Doom a shit pc port and be done with it
>>339525669
>Cherry picking the one exception despite the majority of Digital Foundry videos confirming OC750Ti runs better than PS4
Did you even watch the video? Even they were kind of surprised by the results.
>>339525872
Whoops, my mistake, I assumed you linked the Digital Foundry DOOM video since that's been a common argument lately.
>>339525872
You're confusing hardware performance with software performance. Bayonetta ran like shit on the ps3 compared to the 360; doesn't mean the 360 is more capable than the ps3. Likewise, an oc 750 outperforming a ps4 doesn't mean shit unless we know what games you're even talking about, because any game that requires graphical muscle has proven to this point that 750 is on par with the ps4.
>>339488204
>Insert cartridge
>Power on
>Game loads instantly
>No DRM, no need since the cart is in the machine
>Fun fun fun
>Turn it off
>Go see my friends
Yeah, consoles make a lot more sense. Zero tech knowledge needed and you can play all the Megaman you want.
>>339526146
because any game that requires graphical muscle has proven to this point that 750 is on par with the ps4
That's what I said though.
>You can buy a 750ti for like $100 and it will usually hit PS4 performance unless the game is a shitty PC port
I was talking about meeting console specs consistently. A 950 is better if you want slightly better than console specs.
>>339525354
>Which violates the ToS and might get your account suspended
Well here is the thing anon,
its impossible to get caught doing it.
>DS3 has crashing issues so does the new doom
That is such a fuckin lie.
I own both games and not once have I experienced a problem with them. Hell, I've hardly seen any reports of problems fro Doom other than naysayers on /v/
>>339525354
What website are you browsing?
And 400 bucks isn't that much of a difference, its like 50 bucks more than console. But you can still get a good PC for 300
one word exclusives
>>339526304
>ITT: Its 1995
>>339526575
>one exclusive
I'm too anxious to build a pc. I would be scared that one of my parts got lost, or damaged.
And if I got all the parts, I would be scared that I mess up and break everything.
I would literally have a heart attack if I finished building it and then turning it on but the PC didn't work correctly.
I wish there was a company that built the PC for you. I would pay an extra 50 buckeroos if they just got all the parts, built it, and then sent it to me.
>>339488204
Why did you post an ROV? This isn't /sci/ or /m/.
>>339526698
>I wish there was a company that built the PC for you
>>339526585
This is still pretty much how I live.
Doom 2016 was pretty great, Uncharted was stellar and Dark Souls 3 was a fun time, but I played them all on a system which is mostly used to play Megaman Legacy Collection and unwind after work.
It's basically a NES with a share button at this point.
>people are literally bragging about having zero tech knowledge
I wonder how you retards would have survived in the age of analog with coaxial and RCA connectors. Do any of you fags even know how to set up a TV or stereo system without your parent's help?
>>339526698
>I wish there was a company that built the PC for you. I would pay an extra 50 buckeroos if they just got all the parts, built it, and then sent it to me.
As a console pleb, I know for a fact that people do that already. You can even take the parts to a local PC store and they'll do it for you. If that's what's stopping you, don't let it.
>>339489490
none its just autism unless they're mounted to a radiator or heatsink
>>339526886
But how can I trust them, man?
It's like going to a car mechanic. They overcharge you because they know you don't know shit. So, how I would know if they replaced my expensive shit for cheap shit?
>>339526479
>That is such a fuckin lie.
I own both games and not once have I experienced a problem with them. Hell, I've hardly seen any reports of problems fro Doom other than naysayers on /v/
>Works on my machine shit again
Just because you don't have issues doesn't mean nobody does, out of the 2 streamers i have watched play doom both have had crashes
>What website are you browsing?
And 400 bucks isn't that much of a difference, its like 50 bucks more than console. But you can still get a good PC for 300
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
No, you cant get a good gaming PC for 300 bucks, you can stop saying that now
>>339527356
Then either find a friend or learn to do it yourself.
You're stuck in a cyclical thought process and getting nowhere.
>>339527410
>I found two streamers have the game crash on them so that means it crashes on everyone!
I haven't heard any complaints about the game at all, so its an issue on their end
>No, you cant get a good gaming PC for 300
Actually, what you can do is go to /g/ or 8ch's /tech/ (They're a little bit better for support) and ask them about it, and they can probably help you.
After all, thats probably better than some backwater website
>>339490561
>fap to tranny porn
>>339527793
I never said it crashes on everyone retard, i said it crashes on some people, something that doesn't happen on consoles
>so its an issue on their end
And they are on PC so its a PC problem
>Actually, what you can do is go to /g/ or 8ch's /tech/ (They're a little bit better for support) and ask them about it, and they can probably help you.
Fuck you its pretty obvious if you ask for that on /g/ you are just gonna get shit on, $300 is simply not enough for a good build stop pretending otherwise
>>339528468
>Person makes a mistake
>Their tools made the mistake, not the person
And being as good as a console doesn't mean being good in PC standards
>>339529151
Are you seriously blaming all crashes on the user? Fuck off, i thought you "master race" didn't like taking it in the ass
>>339529387
We never said that
We only said most problems are on the user's end
Calm your ass, man
Companies need to come out with pre-assembled, under $1500 PCs to really kill consoles.
>>339529589
Exactly, most, but there are legit crashes that are out of the user´s control
>>339528468
>>crashes on some people, something that doesn't happen on consoles
>Ps4 game crashed on E3
>Bethesda games constantly break / quests glitch and become unplayable / saves get corrupted and lose dozens of hours of gameplay on all plataforms, but pc usually is savagable with console (~) comands
>The whole deal with X360 red light.
Problems happens in all plataforms, and is mostly cause of the devs, not the plataform itself.
I kinda agree with you in the 300 bucks issue, but even that is mostly optimization issue, because a 500 bucks pc hardware is indeed better than the console.
Both have advantages, dont be such a faggot, anon.
Gundam games.
I do have a nice PC though.
>>339529813
Yeah, consoles have legit problems too
At least you can try and fix errors on PC
What's your point?
>>339530019
That they rarely happen when compared to PC
>>339488331
>completely
cpu stagnates more than gpu. in 4 year you only need a new gpu card. And every 10-12 years more ram.
>>339488204
Other than console exclusives there isn't much any reason. PC and console upgrade cycles are almost identical. Another reason may just be the whole casual "it just works" experience, people want to just sit down and game for a little bit and having a gaming computer doesn't seem like youl just sit down and game for a little bit.
>>339530080
PCs still rarely have problems are you aren't doing something 3rd party, even if it's more often than consoles
And if you do, as I said, there's almost always things you can do to fix, or at least manage, problems.
>>339530769
>And if you do, as I said, there's almost always things you can do to fix, or at least manage, problems.
Yeah, thankfully most issues are solved quickly by a google search, but then you can have rare issues that there i barely info on and you have to try everything until it works, and sometimes nothing works but hey at least there's steam refunds, consoles don't have to deal with any of that
>>339492273
This is the worst post in the thread
>Has a PC for audio/video editing
>"I really don't see the point of spending 1000€/$ to buy a machine to play videogames"
>"I pretty much have every home console from the nes upwards"
Do you even read what you type?
>>339531352
But problems you can't even fix with a reinstall (If you're certain your system can run it) are so rare it's not even worth considering
>>339531730
Yes it is worth considering specially for Japanese games which don't have great ports, you either buy it on PC and see if it runs well or buy it on console and its guaranteed to work, a 280x should be more than enough to run ds3 but there are crash reports coming from users who have tried ds3 with it
how can i play this on pc?
>>339532527
>Gravity rush 2 is a thing
There is a god
>>339532832
I still can't believe itsa happening. The new city looks so detailed and true to the vision of GR
>>339533008
I kinda feel bad for vitafags but this is much better for the franchise
>>339533116
Agree but if they aren't ps4+vita by now or even realize this series needed to go back on consoles where it actually started, they need to wise up!
PS4's are like $200 bucks used now I think. I can't WAIT for this game dude. I'm hopeing E3 will announce a release date.
>>339529686
They do but they want to turn profits so they put a premium on them
Ms and Sony don't because as many people don't notice the premium is locking you down to their closed ecosystem with drm. Though this gen they cheaped out on the hardware to where they made profits from the get go
They also profit off selling peripherals and other accessories and stuff like vue
And of course paid online
>>339532286
The GPU isn't the sole factor famalan
And while major problems CAN happen, you can refund as you said. Personally, I've never had an unsolvable issue, nor personally know someone who did. Major problems beyond our control can be patched.
Just because some people report a problem doesn't make it something the majority should worry about.
I've certainly experienced console freezing several times, they sure as hell don't run flawlessly.
Who here is excited for The Frontier?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv4zlnJ09KY
>>339533569
>Though this gen they cheaped out on the hardware to where they made profits from the get go
They didn't cheap out on the hardware, you just have unrealistic standards. The truth is to build a PC that performs like a PS4 costs you $500~$700 at minimum. Current consoles will always sell at a loss to be the cheapest performing per spec gaming platform and also the most accessible in existence. Manufactures play the long game, they wait for manufacturing costs to go down then start reaping hardware sale profits later on in the consoles life but the bulk of their profits aren't even made through hardware sales at all.
>>339534162
>Console tier PC costs 5-7 hundred
I thought this whole point was already debunked ITT
>>339488204
>Other than budgetary reasons, of course.
Budgetary isn't a reason for me. I had/have every opportunity to have a great gaming PC, hell even the PC I have now can play most new things at medium, which does look better than current gen consoles.
The question is more why would anyone want to go the gaming PC route when the big selling point for PCs is only graphics? I mean, let's be honest now, what's the point? If someone wants to play a game like Battlefield 1 on a console, they still get dedicated servers and 64 players like PC gamers now, and now that modding is gone or crippled for most new games (at least multiplayer ones), that's not really encouraging either. Also putting aside multiplats, what are the big PC games everyone is clamoring for? The only ones I ever hear talked about in the last few years are Xcom and Undertale, and if you want to spend a grand, two grand or more to play those games, be my guest. That's not enough to turn me into a PC gamer, in fact that's an even more underwhelming library then the friggin wiiU,and while I think the wiiU's library is ok, I am in the minority there.
VR is pretty neat though, that might actually be the turning point for me. I have an oculus dev kit and I love it. If the newer models don't make you quite as sick like I keep hearing, I would genuinely consider PC a gaming machine finally. I know playstation VR will be crap considering the limitations of consoles, so I wouldn't recommend anymore take the console route there.
But since VR is in its infantry, I am going to wait a bit and instead spend my money on upscalers, arcade boards and heavily modified retro consoles, since I find all that a lot more fun and rewarding then updating graphics cards.
>>339534631
It was he's just regurgitating shit hoping no one will reply. Just copy the pasta and paste it as many times as you need.
>>339534667
>biggest selling point for PC is graphics
You mean mods
pc graphics are always in comparrison because console players firmly believe that consoles are better if not equal to pc graphics
>>339534631
No it hasn't, you cant build a PC with the price:performance ratio of a PS4
>>339534631
>I thought this whole point was already debunked ITT
It never actually gets debunked, people just assume on paper you can technically do it but whenever it's actually and legitimately put into practice it falls flat on its face. I suggest you actually try it if you have the time or enough disposable income to do it. PC gaming is more expensive full stop and people aren't looking to drop half a grand+ on a PC just to play multiplats, broken ports and indie games.
$300 + multiplats + exclusives is a much better deal to many
>>339534840
Barely any games get mods other than texture swaps nowadays, don't kid yourself
>>339535117
>nowadays
there is a reason why there is at least on nv thread a day
>>339535385
>Game from 2010
Thanks for proving my point?
>>339535385
>pc users forever trying to polish and mod decade old games to seem relevant
To be honest I am sick of first person shooters fullstop, after years of competetive CS I just can't do that genre anymore
>>339498906
Yeah? If you have a decent job you're making 3200 a month.
That's the price of 3 pc's let alone a 200-350 dollar gpu upgrade
>>339491616
>game is out of stock
Why do you feel the need to lie? It isn't 1997 anymore
Exclusives. But the main reason are still budgetary.
I bought a PS4 just because i wanted to play Arkham Knight, but i would love to have a gaming rig.
>>339488204
People under estimate the power of being lazy. Can you hook up your PC to a large tv and play games? Sure.
Do you have to go and get your PC, unhook it from all the shit, and drag it near the tv then drag it back into the other room/area and hook it all back up to your monitor and shit? Yeah that shit is annoying as fuck. Also not to mention that you have to figure out some way to set up mouse and keyboard if your game requires it.
When you have a console, its pretty much stationary designated to the larger tv in the living room/game room. And the "just leave the pc in the gameroom/living room" argument is complete bullshit. The living room is usually shared by people so if they are using the tv too fucking back, you don't get the use of your computer.
It's not that fucking hard to understand why consoles are still here. The companies know that people don't want to be dragging their PCs around to different parts of the house.
>>339488204
because alot of good PC games have to be played with mouse and keyboard
>>339536610
Buy steam stream box for 40 bucks or cheap small htpc. Keep PC in bedroom. Stream to living room.
Best part about PC is the options. There's always a solution
>>339537171
Then you have to think about shit internet connection.
>>339537527
Well I guess if your pleb enough to live with several roommates and have shit internet than there you go, get a console.
What an awesome platform.
>>339536610
Your fucking retarded. you can get 50ft long HDMI cables now. My PC is as easy to use as any console. I switch to the right HDMI input and bam my computer swaps to it and i'm playing.
>>339536610
>do you have to go unhook everything and carry it to the living room?
No?
>>339488204
I do play games on my PC. I just happen to play more consoles games because that's what I was raised on and more comfortable with. But I had some computer games growing up too, so I was lucky enough to have the best of both worlds.
Probably why I'm an idort today.
PC: Enthusiasts
Console: People who prefer ease of use
Enthusiasts always spend more money to get marginally better versions of what non-enthusiasts get, it's the same in every hobby. Nothing wrong with being either.
>>339538251
By your logic idorts are the true enthusiasts, which seems about right
>>339538251
>Nothing wrong with being either.
You're alright, anon.
>>339538416
Well, yeah. Idorts are the true master race but it costs quite a bit of money to be one.
>>339536175
>tfw making less than $1000 a month
At leastI still live with my parents
>>339538523
Eh, its not THAT expensive if you do like me and pirate all you can
>CFW ps3
>ps2 with freemcboot
>Homebrewed wii
>softmodded Xbox hueg
etc
>wii u with loadiine
>emulate all earlier consoles on PC
I only buy games for PS4, i haven't had any reason to update my PC yet, i like console games more
>>339490561
>happy gorilla toolbar
