>One of the most horrific, bloody, and pointless wars in human history
>Lets make a AAA game about it
Truly nothing is sacred.
>>339429215
Anon just imagine being in those trenches, shitting yourself in the mud as your friends get shell shocked.
Really, holy fuck that must've been an actual nightmare.
>>339429215
but I'm gonna pwn some noobs
>>339429215
>games about WWII are fine
>games about the Civil War are fine
>games about every other war in history is fine
>WWI is sacred! You can't make a game about it!
We have Verdun for a more serious, authentic take.
Verdun is also very good, and pretty cheap.
>>339429625
It's mediocre at best
Were they not dolphin diving and quickscoping in WWI? I think I remember reading about that in history class.
>>339429625
Blackmill Games pls
>>339429580
Learn some history anon
>>339430201
WW1 was a mobility war like any other.
But muh western front.
>>339429215
>WWI a "pointless war in human history"
kek read a fucking book
Soul Release
>>339430368
I guess if trying to have a short decisive war to distract your people from the fact that you suck at being an empire is a good reason to start a global war yeah. Or if you're russia and want to prove you're still stronk after the Japanese bent you over and fucked you sideways.
>>339429215
>pointless war
Fuck off it was pointless.
whoo cares OP
>>339429215
name one war that wasn't horrific, bloody, and pointlessthe pig war doesn't count
>>339430870
The Finno-Korean Hyper War
>>339430870
Emu war
Game about children's crusade when
>>339430201
>You can't make this game, it disrespects all the casualties and death in this horrible war!
>But those other wars are okay
I understand that this is a b8 thread but seriously anon
If I can kill commies t is a good thing
>>339429215
Why are you pretending that this is the first game to do this?
>>339431104
>/his/ memes
>>339431345
>implying the aussies don't shit themselves to this days at the sheer horrors they witnessed
>>339431446
When the commies won they immediately left the war.
>>339429215
>One of the most horrific, bloody, and pointless wars in human history
Fuck you nigger battlefield vietnam was amazing
we wuz soldiers yada yada
great thread
>>339429215
Fuck off hippy
War is fun
>>339429580
>>339431385
I think the difference is that WWII had an obvious good and bad side (inb4 edgy /pol/tard saying nazis were the good guys), and that allows for tales of heroism that trumps the human cost, where as WWI's pointlessness, moral ambiguity and huge losses on all sides trump any heroism seeming respectful
>>339429215
so ww2 and other wars are fine?
>>339432164
But you could argue the same for most wars, either way. Even if you won't accept WWII as an example of this, most wars were ambiguous with no clear "good" or "bad" guy.
>>339429215
The villain in the book of mormon is very based on a man who claims to have eaten, murdered and or raped 20 thousand people. Barely even a parody since all they did was add the word fucking to General Butt Naked
why is that okay?
>>339432568
True, but a lot of those wars are too long ago to have an appreciation of the human cost
>>339432583
General Butt Naked seems like a cool guy nowadays. I think he legit turned over a new leaf.
>One of the most horrific, bloody, and pointless wars in human history
toppest kek
>>339429215
What would the reaction be if it was Battlefield Nanking?
>>339432760
Though WWI and II were the last "Wars", you could argue most conflicts in the last century were just as morally ambiguous. In addition, moral ambiguity is often recognized as what makes the villains in a story interesting.
I'm not upset at this so much as WWI is very much vg material. It was basically either ducking in a trench and taking pot shots or running through an open field straight into gunfire. This is probably gonna be inacurate as fuck. I know a lot of people don't care about inaccuracy (good for them), but it just irks me.
>>339433173
Typo
*very much NOT vg material
>>339433173
That was only the case for the western front, and only really for about 8ish months IIRC.
Everywhere else WW1 was a typical mobility war.
Side note tho. Battlefield Napoleon when? I wanna bring republic to Europe.
>>339433316
>Napoleon
Who wants to play as the French?
DICE should just stop making games
>>339433503
Fellow bonglander it's 2 in the morning. Go to sleep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g
We must fight off the monarchist filth.
>>339433503
Cool people. You realize the French were badass warriors who nearly conquered all of Europe, right?
>>339433645
>Go to sleep
Not while the Republican threat still lives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj_9CiNkkn4
>>339432164
You play on both sides in MP WWII games so this is dumb
>>339433734
Not the important bits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNfvJc99YY
>>339430870
The War of Jenkin's Ear
The Kettle War
>>339433316
>Battlefield Napoleon when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVp9sWghCpE
>>339433924
An entirely gameplay focused multiplayer is different from a story driven game, anon
>>339433969
>bongland
>important bits
Even the Romans didn't want most of it lmao.
>>339433772
>the year of our lord 1789
>not fighting for Liberté, égalité, fraternité
>Arab fighting women on horses
How did they defend this one
I don't even care about the black guy, but this is just too much pandering to bear
>>339429215
>one of the most horrific, sweaty and pointless wars in human history
>Lets make an AAA game about it
Truly nothing is sacred.
>>339429215
>games and movies about every other war in history are fine
>The Great War is sacred
>>339434142
Fuck off Ameribrat.
>>339434106
Who knows how they'll do the story in this game though
>>339432164
>All the nazi soldiers were le evil dudes that enjoyed what they did and not just the same kind of dudes made to fight for their country as there were in the opposite side of the war
>>339434238
>implying he's wrong
>>339434137
it's just six independent mission it will be shit ayways
How long until we get an AAA game about the holocaust?
Not even trying to be edgy, I'm just curious as to how long it will take for it to be a subject that can be explored within video games.
>>339434113
>this was actually the french flag at a point in history
>>339434352
Video games can't figure out how to explore anything, let alone major tragedy in a tasteful way.
>>339432924
It was pretty horrific, but most of the other shit done in wars was way more bloody, and it ended the war (kinda)
Also it's horrible because of it's size and not being used to it. I'm sure cannon fire was about as spooky the first time people saw it too
>>339434320
I'm not saying it isn't dumb, but that's the way that it is
>>339429215
Did you realize about it now?
Kinda late uh?
>>339434238
?
I'm not American fampai
How would talking about an international war make me a burger
>>339434431
Who said anything about tasteful?
>>339434113
>Even the Romans didn't want most of it lmao.
He come on now, Scotland doesn't really count
STOP TRYING TO DENY BLACK HISTORY WE NEED THIS GAME TO SHOW THE WORLD WE FOUGHT AND DIED IN THE WAR JUST LIKE WHITEY DID
WE WUZ SOLDJAZ N SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEET
>>339434383
>Posting monarcist flags
I bet you still post plantagenate flags.
>>339432164
>obvious good and bad side
All sides were morally ambiguous at best, it's just that the Nazis crossed the line by experimenting with people. Every single of their other sins was executed by Stalin and, in a smaller scale, by Japan.
>>339434475
The point was that while wars with "evil" and "good" sides look better in propaganda stuff, the deaths in the war weren't any worse than the other wars.
Sure you could argue that using gas and sitting in trenches is terrible, but so is dying to napalm or suicide attacks while sitting in hot, wet jungles full of poisonous animals and enemies in every hole
>>339429215
>I need something to complain about
>>339432164
Yeah that's why WWI is perfect for video games. Nobody cared about the human cost at the beginning, they just wanted to fight a war. They were excited about it.
>>339434695
And by the US. People did morally shit things on all sides of the war, there's not really any morally "good" side to any war, but since we have media constantly talking about how Germany was pure evil, that's what the consensus about WWII will be for the rest of time.
>Le war is so bleak
Fuck off, PTSD didn't exist until first world pussies got their hands dirty.
>BAWWW I HAD TO LOOK DOWN SOME IRON SIGHTS AND PRESS A BUTTON LIFE IS SO HARD
>>339432164
>Hey we did these human experiments on cilivians for the sake of winning the war. These sacrifices are terrible, but it's all for a better world
>Hey we dropped these weapons of mass destruction on civilians for the sake of winning the war. These sacrifices are terrible, but it's all for a better world
>>339429215
Didn't they already make a Vietnam game like a decade ago?
>>339434916
Thing is the US made a great job at wiping out mostly everything. We don't really know what the fuck happened as well as we do about the sides that get shit on the most.
>>339434695
Funny how the side that lost is the one that committed the most atrocities
>>339434980
Because in previous wars one side would always retreat when they were starting to get on a losing position, saving most of their infantry.
It started with the napoleon wars desu but the development of better artillery and machineguns in WWI pretty much meant retreat was impossible.
>>339434892
It would be neat if they followed that kind of story arc, but I kinda doubt they'd actually follow a Blackadder trajectory
>>339434980
>PTSD didn't exist
m8 the technological improvements made shit so bad that we discovered it in some of it's most aggressive forms because of it.
>>339434137
I want cucks even try to deny this isn't blatant pandering
reason Arabs had polygamy was to defend women from war so they could have more children when men are dying off
>>339434137
It actually happened. It wasn't common, but it's a video game, what's the problem with taking something extreme and unusual and using it?
>>339434980
>Earth wasn't round before because that hadn't been discovered yet
>WWI was worse than 'The Crusades'
Here's a image to make this thread worth while.
>>339429215
>One of the most horrific, bloody, and pointless wars in human history
You just described every war ever though.
>Nuuu you can't make media about serious topics
Do people actually think like this?
>>339435935
Yes, which is why Six Days in Fallujah was cancelled. That was shaping up to be one of the best shooters in recent times but got shitcanned because negative nancies thought it was "too soon"
>>339433164
>moral ambiguity is often recognized as what makes the villains in a story interesting
In this case its what makes the "villains" more retarded.
>>339435935
Some people actually think that you shouldn't talk about uncomfortable yet relevant topics like social inequality, period
>>339429215
>sacred
An outmoded and primitive belief system.
>>339436309
Hopefully there won't be one "evil" side in this game, if they actually want to say anything meaningful about it. My point is that black/white moral ambiguity makes the story really boring, since few people have motivations that black/white.
>>339432164
>he thinks the axis were automatically evil
>he thinks the allies were automatically good
Way to show how completely brainwashed you are. There is no "good" or "bad" side in war, especially WW1 and WW2.
Both sides used diplomacy to force eachothers hands. Both sides used propaganda to instill nationalistic and xenophobic ideas in the masses to drum up recruits. Both sides used WMD (for the era) to obliterate eachother.
The only people that won WW2 were the business men who profited off human death.
>>339432164
>Thinking there's an automatically good and bad side in either of the WWs
Wow.
>>339436664
I don't recall America deliberately exterminating large portions of their own population for no particularly good reason.Although the Soviets totally did.
>>339436664
>Hey guys we want to murder everyone who isn't blonde hair and blued eyed
>BTW we are going to be the aggressor in 99% of conflicts
Pretty sure there was a bad side in that war
>people are hyped for a DICE gane after they've shit out 4 mediocre games with abysmal launches 4 times in a fucking row
At least COD works on launch day.
>>339436873
>Allies pointlessly firebombed countless German civilians (who most likely didn't know what was actually going on inside the camps)
>They're the good guys! The Allies fought the evil satanic Nazis and freed the Germans of an oppressive leader!
>>339436823
No, but we did force numerous ones into internment camps. I bet if the war had come to American soil, and if we had been as financially stressed as the Germans were during later parts of the war, that we would've probably started killing the Japanese in their camps as well.
>>339436873
>american education
>>339429341
They get trained not to care about it so it's cool
>>339435536
>what's the problem with taking something extreme and unusual and using it?
Because if it goes against /v/(/pol/)'s politics its problematic.
>>339437281
They actually didn't.
>>339437232
One fucking town compared to entire countries lmao
>>339437232
There was nothing in the slaughter of Germans that the Germans didn't do to the countries they invaded.
>>339436664
nothing more true then this, I'm probably neeting off the blood of many who died in that war. In a literal sense.
>>339429215
>pointless
That's not the vietnam war OP
>>339437370
>>339437424
Objectively false.
>>339437424
The firebombing campaigns were kinda indefensible. An eye for an eye is not really a good reason.
>>339437424
So all Germans supported war crimes and slaughtering countries? Are innocent deaths really justified?
>>339437476
WW1 was way more pointless, and also set the stage for WW2.
>>339437475
Hello friend.
>>339437521
germans are barely white honestly, we should have finished the job
>>339429341
>tfw your ancestors went through those conditions so you could shitpost about video games on a japanese cartoon image board
>>339437521
The Majority of Germans are fatty liver cancer.
>>339437301
>go for the extreme and unusual """"facts"""" in a WWI game
>claim historical accuracy
>criticize embellishing the wrong details to a ridiculous degree
>g-go back to /pol/ you n-nazis
>>339437424
>the German people are automatically responsible for the deaths that a minority supported Fascist government did while at war, even if they could do nothing about it.
wew lads
>>339437483
Germany had two million civilian deaths.
Poland had five million civilian deaths.
USSR had twelve million civilian deaths.
>everyone chillin in the trench
>get hit with mustard gas
>piss on your face mechanic is a microtransaction
>>339437743
>a minority supported Fascist government
Hitler won the democratic election. Come on /pol/, isn't he the poster child for democracy not working?
>>339436823
And the Soviet Union were considered a part of the allies.
I think you misread what I said.
>>339436873
>
France and Britain that declared war on Germany, after Poland wouldn't accept German demands for the danzig corridor. (see also Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact)
Again. You can't assume that one side is better over the other. Both sides committed evils to win the war. Blindly defending one without taking in the viewpoint of the opposite side is stupid.
How's Verdun?
>>339429580
>games about every other war in history is fine
Except Korea apparently.
>>339429215
>BOOHOOHOO MUH SHELLSHOCK MUH VERDUN MUH TRENCHES MUHSTARD GAS
Yeah, WW1 fucking sucked but so did all other wars. If you're gonna complain about this one, make sure to file a huge bitchlist over every single other war related for-profit media out there, faggot.
I dont think you people realize how necessary war is for humanity. We fucking LOVE war and were pretty good at it and when there are clear sides with bold lines of separation it makes for a great way for humanity to carve out heroes and heroism in general.
The trick is to remember both the good and the bad side of war and to really carve out the importance of good acts without forgetting/ignoring/hiding the atrocities every man, woman, and child is capable of.
>>339437521
It was the German people who put the NSDAP in power. It was the German people who supported the war. It was the German people who gave them the military and industrial power. You reap what you sow.
>>339434238
>only America was in Vietnam
Non-American education everyone.
>>339437997
edgy
>>339434596
I'd play this game instead.
>>339437743
>minority supported Fascist government
Germans also majority supported the initial war, which was 100% aggression, but keep on playing the victim.
>but muh Versailles treaty
I'm just here to say that the Central Powers were the good guys in WWI, if the allies hadn't been a bunch of cunts Hitler woulsn't have had a platform to rise to power and the effects of the great depression would've been dampened significantly.
But noooooooo, they just had to squeeze every penny they could out of Germnay cause Russia and Serbia couldn't handle the bantz.
>>339435173
but Stalin didn't lose
>>339436823
VIETNAAAAAAAM
>>339437903
Shit. Nobody is playing it. Grab it if you want from the humble store.
>>339438016
And those who didn't? They didn't magically survive bombardments you know.
>>339437997
>how necessary war is for humanity
t. Sundowner
>>339437997
War is a waste of lives and more importantly money.
>>339434596
what the fuck is this abomination of a post?
>>339438071
How is Germany giving a blank cheque to Austria because it wants to fight Russia before it modernises and Austria wanting to annex Serbia to distract it's population from how dysfunctional it's empire was "good guy" material?
>>339438096
Japan did.
Never forget the Second Sino-Japanese War.
>>339438050
Serious Sam is kind of like that.
>>339438163
hello lebbit
>>339437232
Germans did carpet bombings during the day time
>>339429215
>>339432164
>good and evil exits in real life
Are you 12?
>>339429215
Wow. Your skin must be so thin that cotton causes bleeding...
3rd Wave Feminism at it's finest.
>>339438138
Shame, it seems like an actually good WW1 game.
Speaking of, are there any other good WW1 games that aren't casual trash?
>>339437858
Hitler came to power through a series of backroom deals and appointments, and his party was not a majority party at the time he came to power.
Also
>/pol/
>criticizing hitler
nice b8
>>339438071
It's worth pointing out many Allied generals criticized the Treaty of Versailles... for being too lenient.
If it was harsher, or if we bothered to fucking enforce it maybe the Germans wouldn't have rebounded too quickly.
Who even plays shooters for the plot
>>339438161
>war
>waste of money
You clearly have zero concept of the military industrial complex and how it works and why.
>>339438227
Night *
>>339430201
what does that even mean? He's right you dumb fuck
>>339435173
Yeah, it's like winners write the history or something. Strange.
>>339438298
It's decent but nobody is playing it. There are bots but only in the defend the trenches mode and you'll be playing all by yourself.
>>339438309
>>/pol/
>>criticizing hitler
Thought they'd be criticizing a guy who discredited white nationalism forever and made some retarded diplomatic and military decisions.
>>339434596
But they were, I don't get the point of this post. Is it supposed to be ironic?
No suggestion of Dan Carlin yet?http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-50-blueprint-for-armageddon-i/
>>339437743
The German people of the late 30s-early 40s were pretty much contemporary Americans - pissed off at bad circumstances and desperate enough to get a guy in who would do something about it, even if it meant the harm of others or an additional humanitarian crisis. I mean Hitler made no effort to really hide what he thought of undesirables. The people went along with it and turned a blind eye. Sure a whole lot didn't want that to happen but it benefited them at the time so they were more or less okay with it, and a whole lot of others had no idea anything nefarious was taking place at all. But by and large the ones who voted him in and the ones who didn't care enough to say something were for sure to blame. Not directly, but their willingness to not do anything fucked things up for a lot of people.
It's not even truly black and white in that regard though because I'm sure a lot of them wanted to say or do something but were afraid. And there were German soldiers who weren't SS, who were legitimately bad dudes. The war was largely gray but there was a definite bad guy side that was easy to portray, even if most of the Germans at the time would never have willingly excused the camps or executions if it were widespread public knowledge.
>>339438382
Opportunity cost.
War is just glorified government expenditure, and while that government expenditure does create jobs/industry/etc it would be more efficient if the end product generated more future value and didn't explode.
>>339438310
Your approach would've just delayed WWII by a decade or two.
>>339438161
>waste of money
Halliburton ring a bell?
>>339438161
>>339438049
>>339438150
There is a reason they were called the greatest generation. Its in part the same reason why we have mountains of movies, books, video games etc all recounting and celebrating the greatest war humanity ever waged.
>>339435616
>Favorite motorsport: drifting
>Honda Civic
>>339429215
>Making a game about it
Nothing wrong about that. Verdun exists. All those World War 2 games exist. The problem is actually that shitty fucking michael bay trailer they used to represent it. The implications are that they have no fucking respect for anything that happened any longer.
>>339432164
Exactly, that's why it's a thousand times more interesting
>>339432164
>had an obvious good and bad side
Yeah the obvious bad side were the Bolsheviks.
>>339429215
>One of the most horrific, bloody, and pointless wars in human history
So what? People die every day. The World Wars were facilitated natural selection and a catalyst for technological advancements, it should be revered and celebrated.
>>339438610
>There is a reason they were called the greatest generation.
Yes. They had to have something after the hell they've endured.
>>339438610
Curiously a lot of those movies/books/video games emphasize how terrible it was.
Like it or not the approval rating of "war" went way down following WW1 and 2 fucking destroying most of Europe.
>>339438473
There was one black soldier (that included colonial soldiers which made up the majority of blacks) for every 140 combatants.
There were more war dogs and pigeons than blacks.
>>339438770
And your post implied there were none.
>>339429215
Nothing is sacred, any video game created about war completely trivializes it and any declaration otherwise is false.
Video games are only about making money and thats it
>>339438770
Well I doubt the average WW1 soldier had a body count in the hundreds either.
>>339438529
I agree with most of those points, but it still kind of shows that the German people shouldn't be held responsible for the mass killings any more than the average American should be held responsible when a child gets vaporized in the middle east over a barrel of oil.
His party still wasn't a majority party, though, they just were the "biggest minority".
>>339438762
Baby, if theres blood in the streets..
>>339438762
A lot of WW2 media does emphasize how hellish it was, but it also emphasizes the heroism and bravery for the soldiers who fought in it. At least in the western allies. The Russian side took a considerably bleaker worldview of it.
Pretty sure that most of the people who will play this game probably know shit about WW1.
>>339429341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aY2Q6nEh34
Why not do a game about the Anglo-Zanzibar War, it's a war as long as a shitty Battlefield campaign
>>339432164
>>339438762
>Like it or not the approval rating of "war" went way down following WW1 and 2 fucking destroying most of Europe.
This, war before WWI was seen as literally the most glorious, wonderful thing a man could do. It's why everyone in the German army was so excited to go. There's a very good reason why art and society had such an abhorrent reaction to WWI - the sheer level of destruction due to technology and what it did to men was so vastly greater than every expected in anyone's wildest dreams. It was literally worse than anyone could have ever imagined. It was a total 180 in public perception and that concept of glorified war will likely forever be gone.
Now you have media emphasizing how heroic people are for enduring those conditions, not glorifying the condition of war itself.
>>339438620
True, I also hated that generic dubstep music they played.
>>339436823
US forced citizens that had japanese heritage into camps, sounds familiar?
>>339438905
Unless the game is depicting the Russians on the defensive, then they're portrayed a bit heroically.
>>339438812
Not him but I don't think his post implies none, it just says American blacks had no significant role in the war even though DICE is claiming they did by putting them on the cover of their game.
Honestly it'd be just as insulting if they put an American on the cover, since we really came in after the worst of the war and pretended we saved the day.
>>339439070
Didn't gas them
>>339429215
Ok, now say that about every WWII game as well.
Wasn't there a battle where 2 million fucking guys died in one day?
We all have to agree that the trailer for Battlefield 1 was pretty stupid.
>>339438620
>The implications are that they have no fucking respect for anything that happened any longer.
WWI was literally a hundred years ago. There's a statute of limitations on milking tragedies.
50, maybe even 30 years from now, 9/11 will be treated as a historical footnote by the population, used merely as a plot device in mainstream entertainment, and no one will bat an eye.
>>339432164
The obvious good side is somehow always the one that wins the war. Such a coincidence. :^)
>>339439027
That attitude was on the way out since the realists, granted people tried REALLY hard to suppress the realists, but they were in the business of unglorifying everything 60ish years before WW1.
WW1 though made the art world explode and just go "fuck it"
>>339435616
This is some next level autism.
>>339439095
His post implied that no blacks fought in the war and died just like the white man did. The black they put on the cover fought in more combat situations than any of those other American platoons
>>339438310
Its also worth pointing out that the treaty of Frankfurt (Franco-Prussian war) left France with an even greater indemnity cost, and the territories they ceded to Germany were more economically valuable than the territories Germany had to cede. Its also worth pointing out that the Germans only gave France 5 years to pay it. Its also worth noting that the French completed its payment before the due date. Any German who complains about Versailles is a literal bitch.
>>339432164
good and evil isn't applicable to real wars you dumb shit
only windowlickers believe this
I feel that the dubstep music and all the dumb effects just ruined the trailer for me, I just though it was a generic action game trailer.
The problem of the pandering isn't that they are making it seem like shit that never happened that actually did, the problem is that you are going to conveniently see every fucking time a fucking minority appeared in the war for most of the campaign in a shitty contrived as fuck plot, that's some fucking lazy pandering
>>339432164
I'm sorry how are the Germans not the obvious evil guys in WW1?
>>339439421
Austria-Hungary did technically start it.
>>339438882
Exactly it's still gray, but I'd equally hold Americans accountable for turning a blind eye to what America did in the Middle East - a whole lot of people criticize it now, and did then, but a very large amount either didn't care or approved because they thought it would end the war faster or something stupid. They're obviously not personally responsible but are indirectly socially responsible for excusing it. It's not the majority, it likely wasn't intentionally malicious, but everyone does share some degree of blame in it.
I mean I can't even blame someone for voting and not being able to foresee what would happen next clearly, the future is unpredictable. But still, many of the German people did bear some of the indirect responsibility. Should they have been punished and to what degree is debatable but it's hard for me to say many of the German people should have been absolved wholesale. It's been a really long time since then, no one bears any blame anymore.
>>339439196
>Milking tragedies
Did you miss the first five words in my post? I said making a game is fine. Making media is fine. It's how they represented it, which is crude and ugly. And I don't mean contextually crude and ugly. That trailer looked like it should have had emojis and memes slapped all over it with how terribly disgusting it was.
>>339429215
>X is *my opinion*, change it!
I guess the SJWs really have invaded /v/.
>>339439385
How are they acting like anything in this game happened?
>>339438746
I didn't know Reaper posted on this board
>>339438770
there was 1 canadian soldier per 100 combatants in WW2, but i didn't see anyone complaining about there being a canadian campaign in CoD3.
>>339439421
Because they didn't start the war.
>>339438491
Dan Carlin is so based with his historical stuff but I can't get into his other podcasts much. BFA and Osfront are 10/10 war commentary.
>>339439421
A lot of the actual causes of the war (militarism, nationalism, the web of alliances) were omnipresent on all sides of the conflict and the whole "Germany giving Austria a blank check" was more a catalyst of the whole thing. You can't really lay the blame solely on German Imperialism like you (maybe) can with WW2.
>>339439324
Yep, and the treaty of Versailles' effect on the German economy was notably diminished by 1933, since reparations had been renegotiated several times. In fact, even before the Nazis had taken over, the reparations were completely cancelled.
Muh Versailles is just a retarded excuse that Nazis used 70 years ago, and still do.
>>339439473
and the only reason the K.u.K were so bold is becuase Wilhelm gave them the blank cheque.
Do you think A-H was going to fight Russia on it's own?
>>339430870
the console war on /v/
>>339439483
I agree, i felt that the trailer was just another triple A action game trailer. Generic.
>>339439421
Hol up there Serbia!
>>339439473
German leadership gave all support to Austro-Hungarian government, and even nudged them to invade Serbia. Fully knowing this will cause an all-out European war. They naively thought UK would stand aside, and that didn't happen. However, they wanted war, and all historical data points to that. The assassination of Ferdinand was simply a excuse to deal with independent Slavic states in the Balkans and try to delay the collapse of monarchy. Germans meanwhile wanted to invade as soon as possible, because they believed they would be in inferior position when Russians rearm by 1917.
>>339439163
Not 2 million in one day but you are probably thinking of the Battle of the Somme though, which was a "battle" that lasted 5 months and over a million and a half people died.
The first day of the Battle of the Somme the British lost 57,470 soldiers.
>>339435616
Tell me about it.
Imagine actually letting mudslimes live ?
>>339439483
Just stupid effects and generic dubstep.
>>339439473
>start it
Nigga, Ferdinand was assassinated by a Bosnian. When asked to help track down the assassins Bosnia essentially said
>Nope, we're not going to help you find the terrorists
So Austria-Hungary took this as an act of war, which eventually drew everyone else in because their shitty fucking countries were completely fine with random assassinations.
>>339439592
No versailles straddled a line that was too lenient to crush germany, and too harsh to not be a major humiliation.
They were always going to come seeking recompense, even people at the time were saying that it was going to happen.
But it was the danzig corridor that really made 100% sure it would happen.
>>339438150
It is true though.
War gives value to peace, without wars peace would go unappreciated and eventually people would go restless.
That's why an utopic world where nothing bad ever happens is impossible. The bad things ARE necessary because good things can't be seen as good if they can't be compared to something worse.
>>339439223
Studying the advent of Modern Art and what WWI did to it is insanely fascinating. It was like a perfect storm of shifting cultures at the time. Photography made painting the world obsolete, everyone was exploring different new ideas of what art even was at a fundamental level, and along came the total loss of faith in humanity in the wake of an absurdly horrible war that ruined everything for everyone.
>>339439680
What about the battle of Verdun? That also resulted in a great loss of life.
>>339439760
that's why all you neets out there gotta go get a part time job at least. having unlimited free time is worthless if you can't appreciate what having free time means.
I bet you're okay with WW2 games though because you think it was as black & white as "Good guys vs. evil", fag.
>>339438882
It's called plurality
>>339439732
Thank you, I didn't know.
>>339439732
Gavrillo Princip was a Serb, thought there were Bosnians in his cadre
>>339439258
>The black they put on the cover fought in more combat situations than any of those other American platoons
Yes, and? American platoons saw very little action compared to many of the other fighters in the war. And even if one small group of soldiers saw "more" action than other ones, that doesn't change that they were a tiny, tiny fraction of the people that fought and died.
Though I still don't see where he's implying that none fought, it really just seems like he's saying very few fought by comparison to all of the other ethnic groups and races.
>>339439841
I get the feeling I've read or hear almost word for word what you just wrote before.
But yes, the evolution of anti-art as a big "fuck you" and an extension of the work of the realists is an interesting one for sure. Art history really does change your perspective, back before I knew any of it's history I was one of those people who didn't get how the phrase "you just don't get it" wasn't patronising as shit, but really, when you learn about this shit and you can follow how it came about, it really does change it.
>>339440170
*though
>>339439847
Less people died in Verdun, and it was over a greater amount of time, 9 months instead of the 5 month Somme offensive.
Not saying that it wasn't also one of the most bloody operations in human history though, upward of 980,000 people died, the Somme had 1.1-1.2 million. Both are unimaginable amounts of deaths given the time frames.
>>339432164
Games about the Vietnam War have been made, and sold just fine.
>>339440170
Was he a Serb? I recall that he was supporting a rebellion/revolution in Bosnia.
>>339440191
So no American should be in the game or just no blacks?
>Though I still don't see where he's implying that none fought.
>STOP TRYING TO DENY BLACK HISTORY WE NEED THIS GAME TO SHOW THE WORLD WE FOUGHT AND DIED IN THE WAR JUST LIKE WHITEY DID.
>>339440353
>it ain't me starts playing
>>339440339
Ah, ok.
>>339440393
Bosnian serbs are a thing.
>>339440393
My bad, he was a Bosnian Serb, we were both right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavrilo_Princip
>>339432924
>one of
Learn how to read.
The most pointless war in my opinion were the Yugoslav wars during the 90's.
>>339440543
Gavrilo single handedly destroyed the monarchies of Europe, he was a hero to all of mankind.
>>339440404
We wuz hungarians and shiet
>>339431345
Fuck you, man. My granddad still shivers whenever he hears the rustle of feathers (or leaves) in the wind.
>>339439882
This is actually true for me.
After 3 days of not working I get bored out of my mind because I lose interest in doing any of the things I can do because I am free.
But I love my job so.
>>339440630
Was it truly worth it? There are softer mechanisms to dismount a monarchy.
>>339440613
From an outsiders perspective yes.
Ask a bosniak, croat, serb, memetengren at the time, and they'd say different.
Just imagine if they make an FPS on the Yugoslavian Wars during the 90's.
>>339429215
Want them to go balls deep, play as one of the officers who performs the armenian genocide, play as one of the germans who has to gas shell enemy frenchmen, play as one of the flying circus airmen, dig trenches, retake verdun, torpedo merchant fleets and ships, burn fuckers with flame throwers.
I want them to go as far as they can so they can offend the limp dicked faggots who say there are topics we will not make games for because they're too serious.
> Nothing is sacred.
I fixed it for ya.
>>339440404
Look friendo, we're just trying to dissect what a shitposter meant when they were making fun of DICE's forced diversity. That quote seems to just be implying that it's ludicrous to claim that American blacks fought on the same scale as literally every other ethnic group in the war. Obviously, it means something different from you and we aren't going to come to any meaningful conclusion since they've probably long since left the thread.
>So no American should be in the game
I'm implying that, yes. At the very least, it would be tasteless to put an American on the cover of a WWI game and claim "historical accuracy" and that they suffered so much compared to everyone else. Which is what DICE is trying to do.
>>339437962
it would prob piss off North Korea
still would love to see a game on the Korean War
>>339434980
Reminds me of those hardcore Vietnam vets who had a blast going through the country, and insisted that shellshock was a myth.
>>339440630
He was just the right spark at the right time. Europe was fucked from the get go due to all those treaties and alliances, if it wasn't him it would've been something else.
Personally, I don't think starting a world war, and by extension, every successive war makes one a hero, but w/e
>>339440783
Didn't mean to offend anyone...
