Total Warhammer thread
How's the campaign going? Just finished purging the orks from the badlands as dorfs only to be invaded heavily by chaos.
>>339378975
Playing as Empire just feels like a fucking grind desu
>>339378975
>full stack Imperial army
>get raped by Vampire Count army with half my numbers
Are they OP as fuck or do I just need to git gudder?
>>339378975
Playing empire, confederating the shit out of my neighbors.
Too bad Marienburgh can't be good neighbors and the skaelings are spoiling my fun
>>339378975
>fucking shit up as empire
>wreck the vamps so fucking hard they offered vassalage + 5000 gold to stop destroying their boney assholes
>chaos incursion utterly destroyed
>trying to capture all the land necessary for victory
>bretonnia turns on you with him having complete control of the western coast
>fuck
i'm dreading to play again right now, shit's awful; i'm getting beseiged by varg and the other norsa tribes, while i gotta fight a massive bretonnian army. Their units are shit, but they got numbers on their side.
>>339380801
Get gud
Vampire counts are probably the easiest enemy you find.
Just focus your artillery on their lord and the rest of the army will crumble as soon as it loses a bit of morale
>Turn 70
>Still haven't conquered the empire in full
>Bretonnia being a bunch of faggots
>Vampire counts being worthless homos
>Dwarfs kinda being ornery cunts but non aggressive.
I think im just gonna conquer Bretonnia because they're far away form the chaos fag spans.
just finished my dwarf campaign
I'm taking a break until Bretonnia comes out
>>339380803
>Not conquering Marienburg
Do you not want 2k gold income ports?
>>339378975
>literally 12 enemy agents clustered around Altdorf and Nuln
>constantly fucking my shit up
Jesus fuck
>playing Empire on very hard
>Everyone fucking loves me, military alliances out the ass
>demand money from Vamps every turn and they give it (might be a bug)
>3 full stack armies rekking Chaos shits advancing from the north
>Assassinate Archeon TWICE
Just waiting for the Chaos flow to stop so I can conquer Brettonia.
Anyone noticed that confederating with other Empire factions just drains resources? Done it twice and was substantially worse off. Had to reload save.
>>339380801
Empire has the best roster in the game, you just have to make sure you're building right.
>>339380803
If you're playing Empire and you don't capture Marienburg in the first 10 turns you should just restart imo
>>339381125
There's a mod that removes AI offensive agents. They're pretty bullshit atm
What's the trick to beating Chaos? Every time I finish off conquering my neighbors or doing the confederation option they just come sweeping in with 5 full stacks and infinite agents. Currently playing dwarves right now.
>>339382571
As Dwarves the solution is to get a bunch of artillery, cram yourself into the corner of the map with Ironbreakers as your front line and shooty them to death
Dwarves just can't handle cavalry at all
How do you field 2 chaos stacks? You need to sack every other turn to maintain favor
>>339380837
I got pulled into a war with Brettonia by one of my fucking useless dwarf allies who declared war on them. They wrecked me with their knights, CA seems to have finally been able to code cavalry, they outflanked like motherfuckers and got my artillery and gunline.
But seriously though, why the fuck do these jewish fucking dwarfs declare war on Brettonia and then just SIT IN THEIR STRONGHOLD WITH A FULL STACK AND REFUSE TO MOVE IT.
How do I increase Growth for my Chaos Hordes? I really want them high tier units.
Been playing as dorfs. Barak Var have been handling the orcs in the Badlands while I've been grinding my forces against those vampire cunts. Agents are such bullshit and so are these relic quests.
>>339383225
>Waging your yourself
>When you can let some stupid Umgi's do it
>>339381401
It's all those extra armies + crappy buildings.
I always downsize after confederating.
>>339382848
>corner exploit
Only babbys do this, if you cant win without corner hugging you're not good enough to play on that difficulty.
>>339383273
Also Flame Storm can fucking destroy entire units if it stays on them, killed like 400 marauders with one spell once.
>>339382848
Pretty sure that's the best tactic as dwarves no matter who you're fighting
>>339381401
Tear down all those military buildings and build useful stuff. Disband all those armies you get, unless you desperately need them.
>>339383420
It's only true for Dwarves, and purely because the enemy is always 60%+ Cavalry and you have nothing fast
>>339383545
So fucking outshoot them, knights will die like flies to thunderers and cannons.
>>339383273
The horde increasing talent tree is a necessity for growing your hordes
>>339383648
Are we playing the same game? Or are you just playing on small unit sizes?
At best 3 or so Thunderers can rout a single lower tier Cav before it charges into them
Against the standard Chaos stack with has 10+ Marauder Horsemen and 3 or 4 hounds you aren't going to have the firepower to wipe them before they do a runaround of your infantry. So your options are to form a square or corner unless you want to play Cyclecharge Simulator 2016
Chaos fucked a lot of shit up before I managed to finish off the Vampires. Now I'm running around in the north, chasing Kholek Suneater and getting rid of the Skaeling Armies before I annex the Imperial Nations north of Altdorf.
Breonnia is getting pretty big but they like me, right?
>>339383670
Fuck, the only point I have in that tree is the extra campaign movement.
>>339384018
Maxing it out is the difference between growing a horde being agony and actually being possible.
It's annoying how fucking 100% necessary it is. I took it on a lark and went from being frustrated with how slow chaos was to grow, to being frustrated with how necessary it was for Chaos to need it.
>>339384018
Just purchase a Tzeench potion of change to respec your tree thenALWAYS go for management first before going into army and/or personal buffs
>>339383225
>trusting fantasy jews ever
you clearly have not learned a single thing from your time on 4chan.
>>339384193
>Tzeench potion of change
Where and how?
Such a fucking shame that the AI can't properly take Monsters into account with auto resolve. I have to fucking manually fight every battle I have if my stack has monsters in it to keep it from getting fucking destroyed.
>>339380837
I went after Bretonnia early in my Empire campaign. One of their middle provinces thoughtfully declared war on me after I'd settled up with Marienburg so I marched in and crushed them. Then their neighbor to the south followed suit as I was finishing up, so I marched in and crushed them. Then Bastonne in the middle did the same. Now Bretonnia proper controls only his home provinces and Bordeleux. The rest belongs to me.
They're a good early target to go after, just be ready for lots of sieges. Cannons are your friend.
>>339384441
Does tthe Enemy Army have Halberdiers or Slayers?
I'm pretty sure the battle AI is just too retarded to actively counter Monsters in battle.
>>339381125
Upgrade your Temples of Sigmar, research the tech that gives them a +2 levels when recruited, and bury them in Witch Hunters.
>>339384768
It was zombies and skellies and an auto resolve almost killed my Araknorok spider.
I used to be somewhat into WH40k books- Horus Heresy and Ciaphas Cain especially- but I wasn't really interested in the fantasy setting at all until this game and Vermintide. What are some recommended books? The conceit of pic related sounds like it could make for a fun read.
>>339384886
I'm pretty sure that Autoresolve doesn't take 'armor' and 'armor piercing' into account
That's why any autoresolve with my level 30 fully kitted Karl Franz he loses 2/3rds of his health, but in a real battle against 2 stacks where he solos 2 lords and 3 heroes + monsters he loses 10%
>>339384947
There aren't as many great Fantasy books as there are 40k, but Malus Darkblade, Gotrex and Felix, and Genevieve series are all good fantasy series.
>>339384441
It's always been that way, alas. Autoresolve has always heavily focused down your better units in TW games. I suspect it's meant as a balance/challenge.
If you want to autoresolve, build stacks that way. Just fill them with cheaper, decent units and come at them two stacks at a time.
>Get raided by grimgor ironhide constantly while I'm elsewhere
>He keeps leaving giant pillars of shit or giant troll faces made out of shit in my settlements
I swear to fucking Grungni these fucking Doh Skal Urk, I'll shove my fucking Az-Dreugi up their Dongliz.
Gonna need another book for this shit...
>>339378975
By the time chaos started attacking I already had Orcs cleared and had 4 full armies as a dwarf. 2 Were already clearing up Norca in the north and the other 2 raped the chaos invasion. Its important to say every playthrough is different, you might have been unlucky on every turn.
>pick Slayer King as soon I see he is available
>built him an slayer only army
>literally just select all and kick targets every battle and watch them melt
>Terrorgheist melted in seconds
Im not ashamed to say this game fully satisfied the little pleb slayer fanboi in me.
>>339385516
too bad Slayers are actually bad units
>>339385640
Slayers will never be as based as Cairn Wraiths
>>339385202
>elsewhere
>not completely wiping out all the greenskins and other orc tribes before expanding anywhere else
anon what are you doing
>>339385640
They are not, you just have to play to their strenghts. As I said they melt everything if you have all the research and Slayer King leading them.
They are like the zergs. Form a big swarm and they just roll over shit.
>>339385109
>that feel when there will never be another series as good as Eisenhorn and Ravenor
>>339386317
They have no armor and will die to literally anything
It's about as inefficient of an army as you can get
A better meme dwarf army would be 15 Organ Guns, a LL and 4 Ironbreakers
>>339386529
Dude just trust me, it works.
>>339384002
>Letting Todshitter live that long
>>339386529
You need to play them as dwarf cavalry
>Chaos hero harassing small settlement
>Level 9
>he assassinates any heroes I send after him and gets stronger
>have huge army in the settlement trying to keep order but they can't do anything
>Can't construct guard house because Chaos hero immediately destroys it before it finishes
>Public order -99 about to rebel
What can I even do about these fuckers
>>339386969
Install the mod that removes enemy agents
Does Sigvald not wear clothes under his armor?
>>339387067
That is a fantastic idea
>>339387331
or you could try playing on easy difficulty
>>339387331
Do it. You pussy!
Beat campaign as dorfs and VC. Tried the Greenskins, but hated the public order shit. Also, is it me or does the Waaagh! get defeated super easily?
>>339387123
Easier access to any pussy / boipussy he comes across.
>>339384886
As Chaos, I've hady entire army wiped out and Archaon was the last man standing. He fought 4 units of crossbowmen and 6 units of Axe Infantry alone and won and he was only rank 3. Auto resolve would have killed him instead. I've done this twice now, once versus dwarves and another versus other chaos units. These were both early game though. Still, that fucker never got less than half morale. Just a little something to think about when dealing with auto resolve
>>339387690
He didn't fare so well on his own against me.
>>339384947
Yes, these are great
>>339387859
That never gets old. And yeah, it was early game so the enemy did have basic units. Was playing on normal.
>>339385516
>pick Slayer King as soon I see he is available
>built him an slayer only army
Yes. Glad to hear I'm not the only one doing this.
>>339387859
I love cannons. So much. Dorfs give me everything I loved about Fall of the Samurai, load up on ranged, artillery and fuck the cavalry. Added bonus with Irondrakes.
>>339386245
I'm in said greenskin lands doing it, but he's sneakin' about in the northern part of the wastes, staying just out of range.
>>339381715
So how do you build them right, spam 2handed swordsman and artillery?
>>339388425
The thing I love the most about dwarfs is that both melee heavy and a ranged/artilery heavy options are fully viable and have tons of research available for them.
>Playing Dorfs on Very Hard
>Capture my First Three Settlements and do the High Kings first quest
>SUDDENLY
>A WAAAGH HAS BEEN DECLARED
>GRIMGOR MOTHERFUCKING IRONHIDE
>AND A WAAAGH
>AND A SUB COMMANDER
>AND A LEGION OF GOBLINS
>RUNS UP.
>SURE IS A NICE EVERYTHING YOU GOT, STUNTY
>SHAME IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO IT.
How the hell do I stop the Grimgorening? Dwarves are expensive as fuck and I go bankrupt trying to build an army that can fight them during the Waaagh (and they lose anyway), but he seems to go into a Waaagh at almost the same time as I get my three initial settlements. Do I just need to go STRAIGHT TO THE BADLANDS AND KICK HIS ASS?
>>339388564
Greatswords are the best frontliners right now, but you could reasonably mix in Halberds as well
You want a couple Demigryphs, at least one of each flavor, range to your taste (Note: Outriders are better for backline shooters than Handgunners because of their elevation), artillery to taste, higher tier usually the better, a Steam Tank or two and maybe a Hero depending on what you want to do. Witch Hunters are amazing at eliminating enemy Lords, so against VC or Orks they're a go to.
>>339389381
I think its also partly luck. I started one game where Barak Varr got iced in like 10 turns and I got swamped by Orks, but another game the opposite happened and I steamrolled Greenskins as they were fending off every faction in the south.
>>339389667
So Reload until the Grimgorening doesn't come for me? Not the preferred method, but it's definitely lore-accurate.
>Playing Empire
>Vampires payed me a fortune to leave them alone
>Sure buddy, for a few turns
>Somehow Norseca is strength rank #1
>Barbarian hordes from across the seas come crashing into Nordland just as I am about to confederate them
>Think I'll hold off on that
fugging barbarians
Kinda neat that his shield is actually a mirror that works.
>>339391013
>$600,000,000 AAA publishers can't get mirrors to work in bathrooms
>Drunken liberals in a Sega slave office manage to get a functional mobile mirror as an item.
MODERN VIDYA EVERYONE.
>>339390324
Sooo, game of rolls?
>>339391313
Hunker down and pray the orcs don't decide to annihilate your shit.
So how is the game compared to previous entries in the past? is it good? is it bad? does shilling for warhammer aid in it's sucess or failure?
What's the easiest faction to play? I think I'll pick Chaos because I like heavy infantry and monsters altough why in the holy mother of fuck can't they trade? I even remember reading on Lexicanum or WHFB wikia that some tribes were civilized enough to trade.
>>339391569
Better in every way except city/province building, but I'm willing to forgive it because a Warhammer game probably shouldn't need as much detail in that as previous titles.
>>339391569
Not a great Total War game, the Warhammer theme is all that it has going for it. Is it fun? Sure. But incredibly simplified and streamlined and lacking in so many features and so much content.
>>339391607
You aren't one of those tribes
>>339392336
which is dangerous as fuck
because this one sells, alot
>>339389381
The best defence agaisnt waaagh is to never let them waaagh in the first place
>>339392792
But I wanna. I'm not some fucking nigger who goes
>hurr le kill farmers xD
24/7
Does anyone else have problems of overheating while playing this game?
>>339378975
Playing as Vamp Counts, I was lucky enough to be invaded by Archaon, the Sun Eater, and some other random Chaos lord just as I was moving 2 full stacks north to stomp out some pesky Dwarves.
I wiped out all 3 of those Chaos armies, taking special care that the lords went down. I only got the "enemy lord is wounded" message during battle. After the fight is over though I hover over their icon and it says "this unit has taken too much damage and been disbanded".
Chaos is now at like 10th or 11th in power rankings with 2 of their allies taking up the numbers 2 and 3 spots. Am I done with these fudge packers or are they gonna come back to be a problem?
>>339392897
Unfortunately true, this one has been quite successful so far. I certainly fear for the future of this series now, I don't want to see then simplify and streamline it at any further than they already have or just stick with fantasy shit instead of making more historical titles.
Orks are way too OP to be defeated.
>At turn 37
>Only good army is my main general lord's army and he's half way across the map
>Don't even have the 2nd rank of new units yet
>These two armies show up and start to raping my settlements and there's nothing I can do to stop them
Tell me I asked for it. I DARE YOU.
Nah, seriously though I had to delete a 37turn save cause nothing I did could save me. I either got there after 80% of my settlements were destroyed or I got there, then promptly got BTFO by the two armies.
Tips 'n Tricks? Economy, Public happiness or military strength first? Should I go north or south first?
By this point in the game I had 4 armies; one major one which could stand up to these raiders and 3 others composed of mostly miners and infantry defensive armies. Ya know, to stop those 3 units pillaging units. Playing on normal too; Shamful Display.
>The forces of Chaos rampage through Imperial land, as far down as the Reikland
>The remaining Imperial provincesband together to grasp a fleeting chance at defeating this terrifying enemy
>Surely, this is the last chance of mankind
>Bretonnia has declared war on you
>>339393251
They will always return until you get a message saying that they've been destroyed. When that happens you'll take major diplomatic penalties with every faction and then it's back like the start. Everyone is much more aggressive when the Chaos threat goes.
>>339393336
That's funny because I'm playing as them and feel the same about the Dwarfs. Their units are ridiculously powerful and every victory I eke out seems to be a pyrrhic one.
Would play it if I didn't have fucking 550ti potato card.
>>339393583
On medium, I get choppy 20FPS but I still play it. Just put it on low and play or save up for the new gen cards.
>>339384947
The Brunner the Bounty Hunter omnibus is pretty good.
>>339393538
They are hindered big time by economy/public order
>>339393336
>>339393538
The game gives the AI a calculation advantage if it has larger sizes, a very big one
How do you play vampires?
>>339393018
Fair enough. So far I have only l played dorfs and VC so I can't say which would be the easiest to play. Maybe Empire?
>>339394341
Mass Skellies.
do cannons have a firing arc like grudge throwers or do i have to place them on the front lines or flanks?
>>339393374
As dorfs, I built 2 armies early and went down fuck with the orcs before something like this would happen to me. As for tech, I did nothing but economy for a long time.
>Start empire campaign
>Destroy sepreatist army and capture town
>Guy runs off when he is done
>Goes around out running me, attacking my shit
>Dont have money for second army this early
fug I am bad
>>339395026
Has he magically ran through your zone of control yet? That's always fun.
I'm shit at Total War so I started as Dwarfs but I can't into their playstyle. Played a few turns as Empire though and am having a better time already though apparently it can get rough with Vampire Cunts, Chaos and other human factions raping you from every side.
>>339395470
Take over marienburg and Bretonnia
Chaos agents are fucktardedly annoying.
Fucking greenskins.
>>339395470
You could either use the vamps as a temporary shield against Chaos, or take the vamps out to stop their shitty corruption. I did option 2, and everyone wanted a military alliance with me afterwards.
>>339393336
You gotta preasure Orks from the beginning and not let them get momentum, then its just easy stomp.
>>339393374
I'm at like turn 60-something with Dwarfs and Greenskins are weak as fuck. They've been one of the weakest factions for 15 turns or so.The Top Knotz decided to become the strongest Orc faction instead
>>339395586
so counter them
>>339395417
Yeah he does that
>>339395706
>send agent in
>failed
>send agent in
>failed
>send agent in
>failed and my agent gets injured
It's fucking annoying dealing with RNG.
>>339393374
build one mine/tinker/etc in every single possible castle/town and you'll have enough money for large army
>>339395026
Only way I found to prevent that is to lay an ambush. Sometimes they move in predictable ways.
>>339395793
by the time chaos agents appear yours can be around lvl 10 already
Torrent when?
Sale when?
>>339396203
cya in a year or so buddy
>>339394614
cannons have an arc, just a smaller lower one but its enough to shoot over troops so you can place them behind troops and they will fire over them
Dwarf is best
>>339386365
The Bequin trilogy seems like it could really pick up if he ever fucking writes the 2nd book. It's been 4 years though, starting to lose hope.
>>339378975
>How's the campaign going? Just finished purging the orks from the badlands as dorfs only to be invaded heavily by chaos.
I've never had Chaos come anywhere near me.
As Vampires I pretty much wipped the Empire and the Border Princes and had to slowly make my way North just to find Chaos since I was so bored fighting Imperial armies
>>339381125
Heroes need to be nerfed
In previous TW assassins and the like were a bit of a side-gig you could easily ignore, which was as it should be since they're an entirely skill-less RNG part of the game. Now that they've been given a huge role AND unlike previous Assassins they are resistant to counter-assassination, they are shit.
>>339383545
>It's only true for Dwarves, and purely because the enemy is always 60%+ Cavalry and you have nothing fast
Copters nigger, do you have them
>>339396446
>>339396340
Probably what pissed me off the most with the hobbit movies. If they only rushed out from the mountain pimped out like in the book it would have all been worth it. Instead we had Slingshot Baggins and Hobo Gamwise.
>>339384193
>ALWAYS go for management first before going into army and/or personal buffs
Nah, some of the heroes have shit management compared to battle skills
Balthasar Gelt for instance. +Public Order, -Recruitment cost, -Attrition (only babbies EVER get caught out by attrition), -Corruption. Sorry I'll take Golden Hounds and just KILL ARMIES WITH MY MIND
>>339395026
>army is one pixel away from catching up to a smaller enemy army
>can't ever catch up to him because lel zone of control
>even when he goes around sacking my small towns he can still move enough to forever be a single inch away from my army's movement range
>>339385109
>Malus Darkblade
>evil blacksword
>>339385134
Different anon, but for me it's more when you're coming up to near-completely undefended settlements and don't feel like loading in and out of battle to kill 2 swords, 2 spears, and 2 crossbows with your full stack, mere minutes after killing Karl Franz and his doomstack with a horde of Varagheists
>>339393538
Agreed. I got fucked hard by two stacks of DORFS by like turn 15 as the greenskins on very hard.
>>339386365
Eisenhorn got meh in the last book when it was just "I told the demonhost to fuck them up lel"
Is Radious any good or is the base game fine without it?
>>339387123
>champion of Slaanesh
Probably not
Also, I read his backstory and it says "he maintains the boyhood perfection of a 16-year old though he is over 300 years of age." I don't know what 16-year-olds they've seen, but he looks a respectable 20
>be empire
>rush against vampire counts, all subjugated by turn 25-30
>infinite rebellions leveling up my heroes
feels good mayne
>>339378975
Dark Elves when
High Elves when
Wood Elves when
40 army cap when
>>339387859
This is what bothers me about the game. In TT Warhams you put your lord in a unit for this EXACT reason, so you can hide him with Look Out, Sir rolls. But in this game it's IMPOSSIBLE to put lords in a unit. I wouldn't mind having both, the ability to put him with a unit and then split him from the unit later, but being unable to put him with a unit feels a bit stupid and awkward
>>339391013
Lore accurate
>>339391287
CA is a pretty big fucking studio.
Their marketing is not AAA, but their products are.
>>339391717
Waaah? The building is one of the unambiguous slam dunks of this game. You spend way less time building ever so slightly better shit in every city, instead most cities just get a few things while you focus on the major tows pumping out the best units.
>>339398139
Radious is easily the biggest cancer upon TW modding, never use anything he shits out. Completely fucks over any sense of balance or difficulty.
>>339399191
Well, I suppose that's the answer I needed. Thanks.
>>339397891
ZOC is bullshit in this game, needs to be made more like Empire.
Empire was shit but it understood Zones of Control. You had a rather large once, but if enemies walked into it you could decline the attack or force the attack. Worked with AI too. This meant that you could march a fullstack into a ZOC and just dare the pussies to attack you, usually they'd back down and then you could freely move through their zone. You could also do this to draw out a larger army into attacking you if you were confident of your own success against the AI
In this though, retardedly, even a single lord creates an impenetrable bubble around himself unless you're willing to waste movement in attacking him
ZOCs need to be bigger so it's harder for a small army to just run around you with March, but they also need to be penetrable if the small army declines the attack
>>339398414
They fucked up with the army cap though. In battle if you use 40, rather than cutting the portraits top to botton to maintain some semblance of readability, they cut them infinitely widthwise so you have 40 4mm wide sliver to look through as you try to find your mage.
>>339399191
Never heard of this. Is it a modder?
>>339396162
>Level 3 Chaos Agent walks up to my level 10 Witch Hunter
>Critical Success
cool
>>339397291
Copters are absolutely garbage
If you don't play Dwarfs while having https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyy_FIYE7EE on in the background, you aren't playing this game correctly.
>finish up a short Dorf campaign
>Have all requirements for long finished except clearing my grudges
>One grudge on there
>Level up a Master Engineer to 15
>Remember chaos critical'd all my agents and would have to start a new one all over.
Nah fuck it.
>>339399597
That's why pre battle you give them hotkeys
>>339399838
You stfu about my waifu
>>339393475
Huh. That's pretty annoying. I hate chasing their armies around, they somehow always manage to stop JUST BARELY outside my movement range.
>>339398260
16 yo's n a medieval setting have to be manly as fuck to survive unless theyre a noble fuckdoll
Was able to lure them into a Gully i found while looking for a good defending position. The slaughter was... distasteful.
>>339400397
>Gully of Gore
Rocket batteries are just finicky things
>>339400249
Yes, and I only have 10 keys
1 for mainline infantry, 2 for damage infantry, 3 for immobile ranged, 4 for artillery, 5 for mobile ranged, 6 and 7 for different lords, 8 for my cavalry, now I've got 4 different mages who need to be moved independently and only 2 buttons for them
There's no excuse for not cutting the portraits heightwise in a 40-unti battle
>>339378975
Playing as Dorfs. I turtled a bit too much early game and then had to go north to fight Archaon the Everchosen, so the Greenskins took over the entire south of the map. Was fun exterminating them province by province, but it took ages due to level 30 Orc agent spam and Grimgor being a pain in the arse. He'd respawn with a 20 stack in a few turns.
After that, I helped my ally the Empire finish off the Vampire Counts (who got rekt by Chaos earlier) and absorbed the Holds to the west, though they all hated me by then for reasons so I had to stomp them rather than confederate
Just finishing of the faction quests before I head north to clean out the remaining Chaos scum and re-establish the last hold.
All in all, pretty fun so far. They just need to rebalance agents. Cause I was just ignoring them and rotating Lords when one was assassinated.
Next play-through I think is going to be Vampire Counts. I'll try being more proactive with my agents earlier so I don't fall behind.
>>339384686
I did the same thing, afterward if you balance out your economy and not spamming army like a retard, you should be able to get 10k per turn.
Then you can just continue to upgrade building and give some gift to the Estalia and other faction to be on their good term. then just focus your front to the east.fuck the boat bastard, for keep sending 3 stack of marauder down south and raze my northern city
>>339400717
It's better to keep Bretons around and strong imo. If you ally them as Empire they'll send tons of stacks up into your lands to fight Chaos. Super useful
This game makes me feel like a genius military commander. Just had the most satisfying battle of this game yet.
>Defending Imperial city with only garrison of 372 v 496 rebels
>They have mortars, computer predicts their victory
>Stash my whole force in a tiny crop of trees
>Enemies start marching forward, sending off troops in random directions looking for me
>Meanwhile the main force keeps marching forward, eventually they come almost inline with my treeline
>Charge from the treeline until in range and crossbowmen harass the mortars
>Melee units just about hold theirs back, until one causes their gunmen to fall back
>Use this gap to attack and take out the mortars with that unit
>Now my crossbowmen can attack their gunmen and the melee hold out in a stalemate, but I have one more unit
>Arrange them such as to surround and route the enemy melee units one at a time
>By the time the scouts they sent out to find me catch up I've taken the advantage and eventually wipe them out
Cities actually LOOK like cities in this game
Is there a guide on how to play as the empire effectively? Everytime those chaos cunts show up i just restart
>>339401040
>where'd that infantry line come from- CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
>>339401386
make sure you have ostermark and ostland by the time archaeon comes, and hold the line at Castle Von Rauken and that other capital
>>339401386
Expand and build up your economy.
Kill vampires asap.
>>339401386
Conquer Marienburg in the first 10 turns.
Make allies and gang up on the weaker Imperials.
Once you're strong enough kill the Vampire Cunts and all the imperial Factions will wanna join you.
Once Chaos comes use the Northern Imperials as your buffer, max economy, get 4 Full Stacks, preferably with Balthasar and start picking off Chaos Armies that are besieging friendly Cities.
Also either kill Bretonnia before the Vampires or ally with them. They will rape you if you're trying to deal with Chaos at the same time.
>>339400569
>4 mages in 1 army
Why?
how well optimized is it?
1792mb intel hd graphics 4600 and and i7 in my shitty lappy. could almost run attila comfortably.
>>339401647
>>339401895
>>339401964
never touch the vamps by then, i'll try that and see how it goes this time thanks
>>339402264
This runs better than Attila
>Shooting Gallery
>>339384947
Skarsnik is a great one, loved it. Some wonderful gobbo nonsense.
Also the "war of the beards" books, forgot the names. Elves vs Dwarfs essentially
>>339401895
How on Earth do you do that? I've literally not even fought the vamps once. I'm on turn 95 of my third Empire campaign and I've only barely survived by completely focusing on humans until around turn 70 then focusing on Chaos (and convincing the human factions damaged by Chaos to join me).
If I'd spent resources fighting the vamps I'd never have had the resources to re-build all the destroyed settlements in the North, fight back the Chaos or unite the other human factions.
>>339402028
>fuck the boat bastard, for keep sending 3 stack of marauder down south and raze my northern city
Different schools of magic
>>339403045
I think you start with military access through Stirland, you can use that to attack the vampires.
But only do so when you are confident, try conquering two provinces first at least.
Be oportunistic. If Marienburg or Wissenland take their big stack out of their capitals which are close to you, take out their stack and then their capital, or the other way around.
Always make friends with everyone you don't plan on attacking, specially the bretonians, but backstab them if you see a good oportunity.
>>339399191
nah, thats darth.
>>339404252
>Hearty Chortling
>>339404434
Ironbreakers are perhaps the most based unit in the game.
Literal anvils.
>finish dorf campaign
>cant decide beetween empire cause bunch of ranged shit or vampire cunts cause crypt terrors and shit
How does an Averlander tell the difference between his woman and his cattle?
Does difficulty level affect what events you get?
>>339394341
Patiently. Take full control of Eastern and Western Sylvania as soon as you can, and spend the next few dozen turns building them up. Go for buildings that add to growth and the spread of vampiric corruption.
While you're doing that, build up a single good sized army and start razing all the Dwarven settlements along your borders until they start begging for peace. They'll be too busy fighting Greenskins and each other to recolonize them leaving you free to take the fight to the Empire.
As I said, you're not in any hurry so take your time building up your cities and economy, but take the southern human provinces as soon as you get a good chance. You don't want the Empire to unify everyone and surround you. Once you get all the southern human provinces, try to make peace and let the Empire control the northern ones for a while so you have a buffer between you and the Chaos incursions that will be coming your way soon.
>>339405129
I don't believe so, but maybe.
In previous total war games upping the difficulty has only ever buffed enemy units, increased your public order/diplomatic penalties, and given the AI more stacks.
>>339405253
More like how2WinAsPyro.tiff
>>339405129
According to what I read, all it does is increase aggressiveness of other factions. On harder difficulties, AI will take opportunities to attack you if they're confident they can win and benefit from your loss, more backstabbing, etc
How do I deal with the cold attrition while attacking the Chaos? Are the Chaos invulnerable to it?
>>339393583
Dude I'm playing this on a fucking $300 laptop with a integrated graphics card (HD 4400)
>>339405096
His woman doesn't get wet.
>>339405287
so basically, build up defenses/corruption gain while bullying dorfs and then go and conquer border princes?
Chaos are the most fun faction but I hope they add some new heroes to their roster.
>>339393374
Get Gunbad ASAP, this is very important as it will give you a major economic boost.
After that start crawling south.
Get Black Crag province and build the unique building that gives +3exp to your melee recruits.
After that you're pretty much set to conquest the rest of Badlands.
>no chaos dwarves
>no tomb kings
>no wood elves
Why even live?
>mfw I wiped out Archaon with a Goblin leader after he ambushed me
Got absolutely rekt in the effort, but it was satisfying.
Remember, kids, never leave home without your giant spiderbros.
>>339405253
cheeky
>>339407731
>no chaos dwarves
Well, there are some...
>>339407227
Yeah
making mods is pretty fun.
>>339407731
>no chaos dwarves
They man the Chaos hellcannons, wich indirectly confirms they will NOT be a separate faction.
>>339407945
>>339408101
Well they have to beef up the starter races eventually as well, so hopefully more chaos dwarf units for the glory of Hashut.
>>339391313
>>339391392
Do this shit. Start playing defensively, dwarves are basically invincible on the defensive. You can easily defeat much larger armies if you really hunker down and stay still. Also quarrelers are amazing so make good use of them.
>>339408038
I made a bunch ofall female unitmods for Attila, I should do something for this.
>>339407731
>chaos dwarfs
I'm sorry, who?
>>339407731
>no skaven
>no high elves
>no bretonians
>Why even live?
I dont know.
This is fun
>>339408101
They might change the rosters around a bit when they expand the map.
I have made a mistake.
>>339408769
how do you get that? can you do it with archers too? Also is there an arrow cam like the previous games?
>>339409360
LETS DO IT BOYZ
How well does this game run on lower-end GPUs?
I have a 560Ti and it runs Attila okay at medium-high settings.
>>339409543
>FIRE, FUCKING FIRE
>>339404252
Darthmod for Empire was nice even though he "borrowed" a bunch of stuff from other modders.
>>339410056
Probably about the same then
>3 more weeks until I irresponsibly can buy it
IZ DED 'ARD AND READY FUR STOMPAN
Will this game ever get cracked?
How do I counter chariot charges? My dwarven shield walls are getting wrecked by them.
Finished a long campaign as the Vampire Counts, so I decided to do my next campaign as the Dwarfs. Almost destroyed the Orcs, but there's still a tribe left in the deep south of the Badlands. Problem is that they have a fuckton of agents harassing me and I really don't want to get another assassination grudge, so I need to hurry up and defeat them.
I confederated Zhufbar and Karak Kadrin, so the Vampire Counts have been a real pain in the ass. They haven't expanded past Sylvania, but they're really difficult to put down for good, and the Empire doesn't want to help out.
Now Chaos is coming down after destroying Kislev, and they've already started to attack my northernmost hold. Half of my army is on the literal other side of the map, the other half is dealing with these vampire shits and is tied up with them. With Kislev gone, the Empire is really the only major power left on my side, and they're predictably incompetent, with two of their cities already besieged by the Norscans.
>>339412192
Then it can go fuck itself and fuck any cuck who bought it.
>>339413993
why so butthurt?
>>339413901
what i did as dorfs was grab mount whatever and then focus all my efforts to exterminating the orcs
youre best off letting karak kadrin and zufbar handlel themselves untill you have taken over both badlands and taken out the orcs for good and amassed a massive income
i could field 6 full armies and still have 6k income easily as my dorf playtrough
Are the Vampire's Black Coaches just terrible or am I using them wrong or something?
Hey,
I just finished installing the game and played the first introduction battle for the dwarves.
Question: Why don't my units attack fleeing enemy units?
Every time an enemy unit breaks (because of low morale?), they flee. When I select one of my units and click them into the fleeing enemy unit, they just run with them, but they don't attack.
Would appreciate some help here.
>>339413993
t. poorfag
>>339414990
They probably run at the same speed, so they can't get close enough to attack. Use dogs or ranged units or cavalry to kill fleeing enemies.
People who think this has less content are fucking retarded. Each faction is completley unique.
Nobody gives a shit about your opinion. This game is selling like hot cakes.
CDKEY EXPERTS
How long before price drops on key sites?
Im getting the game eventually but im just wondering how long before you guys think it will drop to 30 bucks?
>>339415387
City planning is incredibly simplified. Stuff like tanneries should create squalor and sanitation issues.
Also, why can we still not demand cities?
>>339415612
I think confederation is a much better replacement for demand.
>>339415612
It's simpler but I don't know if I'd consider managing squalor and such as 'fun' issues that really added much to the game
I would like to have more slots and interesting choices, however.
>>339415176
Oh, that would explain it.
Also, why do my crossbow troops sometimes not shoot?
They are positioned near an enemy unit and according to the markers on the side, the enemy is withing their line of fire.
When I click to attack, but they won't shoot for some reason....
>>339415974
Do you have skirmishing mode turned on?
>>339415818
I mean stuff like, give me these cities for peace, or give me these cities and I wont declare war on you.
>>339415974
They may be obstructed by your own troops. Either get them to higher ground, change positions, or pick a different target.
This game looks complicated. Is it?
>>339416157
Giving territory back to an ally that got BTFO would be great also. Sometimes you just give them gold and they do fuck all with it.
>>339416464
Nah.
Can you reclaim razed settlements?
>>339416464
Depends on how new you are to Total War games. If this is your first it may seem overwhelming but they do a decent job with the tutorials so you should be ok. If it isn't then you'll do fine.
>Warriors of Chaos are DLC
lmao fuck this game
>>339417309
nvm
is there orks mod?
>>339415612
>still
Have you never played another total war?
City trading made the AI get weird ass borders so it was removed a good amount if titles ago
>>339407731
Someone post the angry Chaos dwarf holding the FW army list and being too short for the game please
>>339410110
>one of the giants is already routing
>>339416112
I don't know, will check next time I play. What does skirmish mode do?
>>339416196
>They may be obstructed by your own troops
I didn't even know that was possible, but that might have been the case. There was one of my melee units fighting that orc unit and I had my crossbow troops right behind my own men.
>>339418563
Skirmish mode makes them automatically fall back when an enemy gets too close.
They might not be firing because they're trying to fall back, stopping due to an order and then falling back again
>>339408101
Chaos Dwarfs canonically does a lot of hired work for the WoC's.
>>339378975
>grudgebearer too op
he keeps getting the fattest fucking armies and just rolling my okrs
>Day one DLC
>fucking Chaos at that
great game lads I hope next TW will have only 1 faction
>>339420146
Ignore everyone else outside the intro battles/capture, build up a big stack early and hamstring him before he doomstacks you. Then wipe out all surrounding dwarfs as quickly as you can.
After that, the other orc tribes will probably hold him off long enough for you to get a proper army going
Always target the dwarfs over orcs, because Orcs will be more willing to ally with you if you kick stunty heads in, and Dwarfs have incredibly vicious early game potential
