Shit in vidya that drives you mad
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What REALLY grinds your gears in vidya
>Character knows information that could stop everything
>Doesn't say anything for no reason
Alternatively
>Character can see the future
>Reacts after seeing something horrible
>When asked whats wrong the character says "n-nothing!"
>If you kill him you'll be just as evil as he is!
If he had fucking told you, then the fucking fairy would have murdered everybody, and he knows that. How is a simple plot like Bravely Default still that hard to understand for some fucks.
>Character can see the future
>Reacts after seeing something horrible
>When asked whats wrong the character says "n-nothing!"
you never know what you might cause if you tell,as you telling could trigger the event or a worse one
>>339368564
>Kingdom is "good"
>Empire is "evil"
>>339368564
>mislead
>unsinkable cutscene
>before the boss
>skeletonson the floor
>weapons near them
>chest ahead of them
>can't do shit unless you trigger it
and
>enemy holding a weapon
>drops a different weapon instead the one he's holding
>>339368667
>playing new vegas
>kill a couple of powder gangers
>gain karma
>take the stuff from their camp
>lose karma
>>339368667
Huh.I guess you're right.
>>339368564
>Spend a bunch of time trying to save your friend
>Finally succeeds of saving him from certain death
>He dies anyway in the very next mission or later in the game
>>339368910
Look at it like grave robbing
>>339368994
>you don't get his equipment back
>>339368851
>The enemy's weapon isn't part of the loot table
>>339368910
what is this mysterious black man trying to keep from his comrade? This is the mystery of the century.
>>339369018
Oh.
Killing them and looting their bodies is good, but taking the ammo they had in their camp is a big NONO.
Thanks Obsidian.
>>339368564
>giant monster is going to destroy the world
>defeat the giant monster
>this dooms humanity forever because reasons
Extra points if there was someone who knew this would happen but doesn't say it for reasons.
Extra extra points of gear grinding if the story just ends that way, telling us some cynical "Don't be a hero" bullshit moral.
>>339368564
>Go behind waterfall, there's no cave
>Status effects are completely useless on enemies, but are devastating against your party
>FPS only allows you to carry 2 weapons
>post-apocalyptic world
>the leader is an evil tyrant who couldn't possibly just be trying to conserve what little resources they have left
>It can't be helped.
>Talking animal with "comical" bad spoken language.That second one stopped my playing both Xenoblades. Its the very worst thing I can think of.
>getting wrecked by the enemy
>they pull back
>"Maybe they were just testing us..."
>enemies have infinite mana/stamina
>>339369091
>early enemies have a tiny chance of dropping high quality and powerful gear.
>>339368564
>guy/grill you're not related to
>helps you throughout the game
>killed by the boss after the penultimate fight
Or alternatively:
>guy/grill from your childhood
>also a long lost friend
>killed in the beginning of the game
>his/her death triggers the start of the main questline and the game itself
>near the end of the game you find out he/she is actually alive and is the final boss
>>339368667
Have the WORST form of this
>Kill tons of antagonist's minions on to way to antagonist
>Spare antagonist because "if you kill him you'll be just as bad"
>>339369525
>character you the player has grown to love is killed in a situation where your character could clearly intervene
>>339368737
>and he knows that
How and why would he know that
Even if he did then he could have just fought Airy with you, its not like she is hard.
>Escort mission
>Game over if they die
>Get to the end of the mission
>They die in a cutscene
>They didn't even do anything to justify having to keep them alive in the first place.
>game is good
>music,combat,environment
>but
>characters are japanese tier autistic
>gorillion years old lolis
>can't talk about the game without looking like a total degenerate
>>339369636
>well-loved side character gives OH SO HEROIC AND NOBLE sacrifice.
>there was a really obvious solution to the problem where noone needed to die.
>>339368806
>>you never know what you might cause if you tell,as you telling could trigger the event or a worse one
Thats NEVER the reason they give though
Its almost always because the person seeing the vision was scared to say something or didn't think someone would believe them.
>>339368910
to be fair the karma system in new vegas was virtually unused
reputation was a hell of a lot more important
unlike say fallout 3 where you got bad karma for killing a ghoul after discovering he exterminated an entire settlement of people for no reason
>>339369636After all... a smile better suits a hero...
>>339369765
who's noone and why are you okay with his death?
>>339369815
They could've just not put it in the game.
Yet they did. Obsidian can be just as retarded as Bethesda.
>Hey guys, don't you remember? This woman helped us when we were kids, whe should try talking to her instead of shooting her in the head from a distance!
FFVIII - solved.
>>339369159
Well it originally belonged to the NCR, so you would be just stealing stolen property.
Still why you couldn't return it and gain twice the karma you lost is beyond me.
>>339368842
Got damn Crisis Core Sephiroth fight
>WHITE/BLUE = GOOD
>BLACK/RED = BAD
>Party member dies in a cutscene.
>In the very next room you find a piece of equipment exclusive to them.
>Surprise surprise ten minutes later it turns out they're totally okay.
Why even bother faking a death if you're going to drop the charade two seconds later?
>shittily written comic relief character that fucks uo atmosphere and scene tension
>>339369514
>With a nice combination of pickpocketing, crafting and the right choices you can obtain an amazing weapon that keeps getting better until the end of the game making you a powerhouse
Goddamn i love Star Ocean 2
>>339370074
>unfunny comic relief drags down the entire movie/game
>>339368564
> playable females
> playable shitskins
> nazis portrayed negatively
>>339369970
na na na the GFs made them forget everything m8
it's a shitty justification but it's better than nothing
>>339369514
>most powerful gun in the game
>available to get from the first conversation.
>>339370165
Seifer and Irvine remembered everything but didn't talk about it.
>>339368564
Fucking Shulk goddamnit just say it you little shit
>>339370074
jar jar blinks effect
>>339368564
>It can't be helped. We have to use "that".
>>339369310
alternatively
>you get too op for the status have any effect on the enemy
>Enemy NPCs clearly see you've just slain 100s of their comrades with ease
>Think they can take you on once you get to them
>>339370286
>b-but muh burden
>>339369473
>enemies don't run out of ammo
>loot their corpses
>2 bullets in their inventory left
If only I had waited for 2 more shots
>find a cool looking weapon/treasure
>'it has a name here,let's try to return it to the owner'
>can't take it for yourself
>'thank you hero,here's some reward for your trouble'
>'space diamond necklace/blessed sword of demonic dragon slaying lost'>small red potion gained
>>339369950It was just a quick way to set up everyone around the player to become hostile if he stole items from a potentially hostile factionThe game doesn't support hostile actions made specifically for one faction when it comes to inworld items like that.
>>339369970
You are in a school of mercenaries. You should be able to kill close family members if they are a dire threat.
Irvine's reaction was completely justified for someone who was nothing but talk
>>339370074
>Whole game goes to shit because of said character
>Nothing negative ever directly happens to them
>NORMIES LOVE THEM BECAUSE SO FAHNNY JOEK
>>339370050
Wearing the colour blue literally makes someone easier to trust though, thus "good" connotations
>>339369815
Ugh, I just did the bounty mission, went into his hideout and killed the bastard. You don't lose karma if you tell him you've come to kill him. The worst that happens is Threedog razzing you for it.
>>339369970
>>339370165
>>339370282
Ignore the orphanage sequence.
There, FFVIII story is now perfect.
>>339369628
To be fair it's about not giving to your hatred. Because if you have already defeated him why give the coup de grace?
Different from mooks that most of the time you are just protecting yourself, who attack and never surrender. Then you are justified to kill those.
In some games that mooks surrender you do lose karma for killing them.
>devs make their own original weaponry/armor
>it's just a clusterfuck of random shit that makes no sense and is retarded to anyone above the age of 13
Japs are often guilty of this.
The "oh, it's nothing" is even worse if they're not a character that can see the future. Like there's a massive thing going down or already went down that they're privy to, and they arbitrarily keep quiet because otherwise the characters wouldn't be able to wander around the world map for another 30 hours. DRAMATIC TENSION~~
>>339370474
Huh, that actually makes sense. Irvine must have thought Squall and company were some badass motherfuckers
>>339370613
>Because if you have already defeated him why give the coup de grace?
To keep the fucker from coming back?
>>339369342
Riki is ok, but holy shit Tatsu is a useless fuck. Nothing like the great heropon.
>>339370613
Name one. I want to play it.
>>339368564
>Family/Friend dies two minutes into the game
>player is forced to feel bad about them
dear game developers... i dont fucking care. I cant even remember about the last time, some game had a decent character development, before killing them of.
>character is obviously evil
>so obvious you figure it out on your own
>still have to go along with them to get the true ending
>>339370625
>whiskers to feel enemies with
point it around da cornah... here comes da whiska whiska...
Katanas.
>>339368842
Fucking Soul Hackers
>>339370613
That's bullshit.
Those mooks could be conscripted by force. They may be dirt poor and this is the only way to keep their starving families fed.
>enemies that constantly stun-lock
>putting points into persuasion is a waste since its never used 90% of the way into the game
>do a quest to retrieve an "artifact"
>turns out its a "weapon pertaining to the class you play as that does googolplex damage" artifact
>initiate conversation with NPC
"This isnt what I thought it would be, but I need to bring back something from my travels
-Well, here it is, have it
>Well, if you don't want it... (PERSUASION 3% CHANCE SUCCEED)
-Sarcastic
Fuck games that dont use perks until way late into the game
>>339370817
FFVII was good about this. Every death seemed to pack a punch.
>>339368564
>enjoy the party protagonist!
Quest updated: Speak to the >guests
I fucking hate it when the game forces you to walk around a boring ass party doing stupid shit (yes I'm talking to you hearts of stone). These kind of quests usually take forever and kill my mood almost instantly
also, quests where you have to protect some retarded asswhipe that gets him/herself killed every time
>see an obvious trap
>can't disarm it
>can't avoid it
>only way to continue with the game is to trigger it
>>339368842
FUCKING RIKU IN KINGDOM HEARTS!
Here's what grinds my gears:
>Can't skip tutorials in 2nd playthrough
>You need to go through some pointless missions before you get to the good stuff
>Hardest difficulty is an unlockable
>Forced Memes that date the game in the future
>Character does something later in the story that they could've done earlier to help themselves (Example: Virgil in DMC:Devil May Cry can teleport and use his summoned swords near the end of the game like DMC3 Vergil but with no explanation when he could've used them before plus he just turns evil all of a sudden after Donte beats Mundus)
>Enemies in fast-paced games are colour coded and need to be killed depending on a certain weapon
>Day 1 DLC
>You save a character that's in real big danger where you could've died then he/she dies 10 minutes later (Walking Dead Season 2 is shit)
>Pausing every 5 seconds to switch weapons can be a pain
>It's the Final game in the series, the last game is shit
>Last game was amazing, 'last game was released in 2002'
>Collectable Quest gives you nothing
>slashing attacks piercing armor
>>339368842
>AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA is unskipable
Many people to this day still dont want to replay this game because of it
>Kill a character
>They come back anyway later in the game/ in the sequel to be redeemed
FE Awakening annoyed me doing this
>Oh no the Queen tragically gave her life
>No wait she's just retarded now
>You stopped the Mad Tyrant King!
>No wait now he regrets everything
>You stopped the unstoppable conquerer!
>No wait he's alive too
>You stopped the cultist leader's second hand woman!
>Nope alive and was brainwashed as a kid but perfectly fine following a satanic cult by her own will now, please pity her.
But the worst is Blizzard games. Death has zero meaning in WoW and Starcraft 2.
>>339370565
Can't ignore the orphanage sequence because of Edea.
Space segment is also a shit show.
>>339370889
>Knock an enemy down
>You can't damage them until their get up animation finishes.
>Enemy knocks you down
>They're free to beat the shit out of you while you're getting up.
>>339369229
>>>giant monster is going to destroy the world
>>defeat the giant monster
>>this dooms humanity forever because reasons
Chrono Cross was the worst offender to this
>Get to the big final boss
>100% committed to his grand plan
>years in the making
>his life goal to do this
>speech check to get out of fighting
>"You don't have to do this"
>"you're right I don't"
>>339369342
The nopon arent animals though
>>339369840
fucking tilted
>>339370772
The problem is that people usually equate games with real life. So they usually go 'why don't Batman kill the Joker? He will just come back anyway.'
In real life prisons aren't easy to be escaped. And in videogames death is not finality. The point is that the villain will come back if destiny (which is the writers) decide they want them back. And even if they somehow stay dead in the sequel, the second problem is that this doesn't stop anyone from taking his fallen mantle.
So yes, he is coming back. And if he doesn't then someone else will. No reason to lower yourself for a finality that doesn't exist.
>>339368564
>bard character
>only knows one song
>sings the same line over and over again
>>339368842
>titenic
>>339370958
You are absolutely right about FFVII, but it was released almost twenty years ago...
>tfw your favourite party member is forever locked out after a certain point.
>>339371393
Any game that does that?
>>339370886
Metal Gear Rising actually brought up this point. I found it pretty interesting.
But yes, regardless of the reason: you are still protecting yourself. Which is different from them falling down and the game giving you a clear choice to what to do with them.
>>339371208
Forgot but:
>You get the choice to kill antagonist
>Choice doesn't matter
>"Killing him is wrong even though he is responsible who ruining everything"
FF13-2 did this, what was the point?
>>339371328
How so? Just accept the mercenary schools are a thing in the world. It's completely ignorable since the garden existence was never something that needed some answer.
>silent protagonist
>>339371545
Fallout 3 did this and it was pants on head retarded
>>339371545
Fallout 1, New Vegas and Fallout 4 do this. Although the latter is combing the Big Bad to help you save some innocent NPCs.
>>339371545
The "you are an abomination of science" line from fallout 3 is worse than that.
>>339371517
>character does nothing wrong
>everyone acts like he's literally worse than Hitler
>meanwhile the guy who betrayed your entire race can do no wrong
>You wouldn't understand my motives even if I told you!
>The motives are easily understandable.
>>339371393
>He then proceeds to kill himself.
>>339371624
That's for self-insert purposes
>>339371658
*Convincing
Fuck
>Protagonist I love you!
>Did you say something?
>N-nothing
>"It can't be helped."
>it can clearly be helped
Thanks Japan
DLC replacing Expansion Packs
>>339369310
>Go behind waterfall
>There's a cave
>There's nothing in the cave, it's just an empty room
>>339371204
this and general logically avoidable stuff annoy the crap out of me
>>339371697
This was actually cool and good and you still fight his husk afterwards?
>>339371810
It's more like an anime cliché...
>>339368564
>>Character knows information that could stop everything
>>Doesn't say anything for no reason
like this prick
>>339371265
>Hating on epilogue bonus chapters that weren't even in the base game
Wew lad they were fun and fine, the queen slammed her head from a pretty long fall straight into the ground
Now what really pisses me off in FE:Fates however:
>Series known for characters dieing off, hard to get a playthrough without resetting and no-one dying
>Instead of building on this, important characters are now just retreating from the battle
STOP IT, JUST BUILD ON IT YOU FUCKING CHINKS, IT WAS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT MADE FE SO GREAT
FIX THE PACING OF YOUR STORY INSTEAD OF MAKING 3 SHITTY ONES
STOP IT WITH THE FUCKING FOOD/TRAINING SUPPORT DIALOG
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgameplay from fates was quite good though, fun game
>>339369840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EtNfOHnbPUDo not look at me so...
>RPG
>get called a fool for not having certain level to fight boss
>easily defeat boss even with a lower level
or
>ability to make any wish you want
>only 3 wishes available
>morality based
>one is karmic good, gives renown and nothing else
>one is neutral, brings your fucking treasure-hunting dog back to life which died but the ending is now obsolete because the DLC added human sacrifice to bring it back
>one is bad where you get enough gold to buy a castle with the only thing special about it being a gender-changing potion. Now obsolete because you can abuse a bug with setting time on your console
>THANKS FABLE 2
>character is an obnoxious pedophile
>nobody reports him to the police
>Not worth using status effects on regular enemies
>Bosses are immune
> player can resurrect with his cloning network
> villain can't
still confused
>game feels too gamey
>Be playing Horror Survival Game
>Player character is a grown ass man
>Can't bust through a wooden door
>Can't physically contend with monsters
>Can't swim
>Sometimes can't even jump or climb
>But anon if you could do all those things it wouldn't be scary
Then make the character a little girl or something don't give me an adult man and then expect me to believe he can't muscle his way through a decrepit run down old wooden door that for some reason HAS TO HAVE A KEY despite the fact that I, the player, can visibly see the door is broken as fuck and my fat ass could probably get it down but nooooooo
>>339372069
Fable 2 is stupid anyway. Imagine the impact of hundreds of people returning to their homes overnight.
The good ending leads to starvation, death and disease.
>>339371958
Yes, it's impliedsovereignnever trusted him and just put an independent skeleton in him just because.
We could have gotten a techfreaksarengradually becoming mad from having a robot inside him controlling his own body, while he's forced to watch it.
>>339372252
Bioshock too
>>339372267
This, and horror games with jumpscares. Fucking nothing jolts you out of your immersion like something jumping out and startling you for no reason.
>>339371393
That's usually a shounen thing. It's still bullshit though.
>Protag has to flip a switch to do good thing, but it'll kill him
>Companion can flip the same switch harmlessly
>Companion forces protag to do it because "destiny"
God fucking damnit FO3
>>339368564
See I hated that shit in Xenoblade until Reyn calls Shulk out on it and calls him a moron for not sharing his visions
Best way to counter that cliche
>>339372469
Fuck you Speck, why didnt you just send a redshirt
>>339370881
I'm guessing that's an edit but I'm not 100% sure.
>>339372469
>expansion changes it so that indestructible super mutant amigo can flip the switch
>Narrator still cusses you out
>best sword in the game is a katana
>>339370074
>>shittily written comic relief character that fucks uo atmosphere and scene tension
this prick
>unskippable tutorials
>>339371697
Man I always want to replay ME but that fucking combat. Fucking rockets.
>>339372671
Why does every Tales game have a traitor whom you just forgive?
>>339368842
>unsinkable
>>339372617
>you're a bad person for doing what, logically, in their very own established lore, would be a perfectly logical thing to do
>>339369696
>its not like she is hard.
But they lose when they first fight her in the non-canon ending.
>>339371705
>self-inserting in video games
when will this die?
>>339372743
Play as a tech + biotic combo. You'll get the biotic shield and physics attacks, and can also shutdown enemies.
>Forced romance just for the sake of having one in a plot where it's REALLY out of place
Jesus Christ not every story needs a love interest.
>Game keeps blabbering on how you are the good guy, and the enemy is literally worse than hitler.
>The enemy is clearly justified and you are actually the bad guy, the game never acknowledges this.
>>339371658
>new vegas
the speech checks are a bit more than "you don't have to do this"
in fact if you say things like that to ulysses, he'll basically just say "yes i do." and even if you win the speech checks, you can still screw up the dialog by saying the wrong things and he'll fight you.
in order to overcome ulysses with words, you have to convince him that you have the power to change whatever flag you fly under (idk what happens with independent) for the better like you did with the divide (before blowing it up). otherwise, he remains convinced that the remnants of the old world need to die so that new civilizations can come into being without being tainted by old world beliefs.
with lanius, you basically have to convince him that the mojave isn't worth it. it wasn't his plan to come out there to begin with, he's just blindly loyal to caesar and caesar was obsessed with the dam and the ncr.
with oliver as legion, you just have to convince him that he's fucked and his best option is to get what men out that he can.
with oliver as house, you either make it apparent he's fucked or strike a deal with him.
with oliver as independent, i don't remember because i rarely do independent. probably similar to house.
all of these speech/barter checks make sense as they're things that could reasonably convince the character to turn away.
ulysses can be turned from his path if he can be convinced that destroying the old world isn't the only way to create a new one, lanius and oliver can be convinced simply by pointing out what will happen if they continue their current course (or with oliver/house, incentivizing him).
and neither oliver nor lanius came up with the idea to take over the mojave in the first place. the ncr council and probably kimball decided they wanted hoover dam for obvious reasons and caesar wanted it because the ncr was a force that could challenge him. both oliver and lanius were just soldiers carrying out orders, it makes sense to speech them.
>>339372665
holy shit i rmember that flash game
>>339372751
Because they aren't well written and rely on overused anime tropes.
All of them.
>Character lies/wont tell someone their reasoning
>Literally no reason to do so
>Other person gets angry when they find out
It happens all the god damn time and it makes me so mad.
>>339370378
What? Shulk told everyone what he had been seeing after the first few visions.
>>339372069
Continuing
>Have to grind hours to get cool content
>9 hours in
>"you have unlocked : ability to walk 1% faster"
>Really nice game
>Cannot do shit, game is dark-souls tier of difficulty because it is supposed to be played co-op
>1 or 2 out of 6 characters in the game are not fully-co-op based in their abilities
>Super badass one-man-army war machine
>Cannot swim, bash through walls or go through wooden doors that are blocked with a fucking wooden board
>Great game concept
>So poorly executed it kills off the entire genre
>Have squad consisted of a comic relief, healer, and a Deus Ex Machina that is at least 496x more powerful than your character in it's own right
>Still have to sacrifice by yourself to stop an evil
>Great game concept
>No dev sees value in it and continues to pump out shitty card games and tower defenses
>Replay game for the seventh time
>Cutscenes and tutorial still cannot be skipped
>Diplomacy is "Press A to be friends, press B to be enemies"
>Begin anew with a very long game that took you a very long time to finish 100%
>No New Game+, not able to skip tutorial or cutscenes, still need to travel for hours to reach somewhere
>Super army of extreme proportions with extremely advanced technology sends out a guy armed with a pistol to manage to defeat the tribal menace because super army cannot defeat it
>Super army sends out a guy because they cannot defeat enemy super army
>Guy easily wipes out super army by just shooting each baddie 1-2 times.
>>339369840
I had to stop playing for a while. Fuck that garbage, he was the best character in the game.
>>339372583
It's not...
>>339373106
>dark-souls tier of difficulty
>>339372751
at least in Symphomia you can go down the route and kill that horrible character
>your character is an unstoppable juggernaut during gameplay
>he surrenders to 3 normal grunts in a cutscene
>limited inventory space
>switching weapons like every second enemy due to drops
>'hey fuccboi,you don't have your starting weapon?'
>too bad,i can only make the best weapon in the game with 'old and busted rusty training sword :^) '
>>339372926
>game has multiple forced romances and only one ending, where only one of the girls win the MC, awkward as hell
>>339372926
>Jesus Christ not every story needs a love interest.
some games would be better off without a love story.
Like FF8, holy shit it was so badly written.
>>339372948
>The enemy is clearly justified and you are actually the bad guy, the game never acknowledges this.
name one game
>>339372252
Iirc it was basically ego. He kept the players in the respawn network cause it made him lodesemoney but never thought he would lose and need it. It's a dumb reason but hey, randy pitchford writing.
>>339368564
>When asked whats wrong the character says "n-nothing!"
At least Xenoblade kinda shit on that trope.
>Shulk, what did you see?
>I-it was nothing.
>Goddammit Shulk this is the second time you said this and I almost died last time. you better tell us everytime you have a vision
>>339372961
You actually have to convince Lanius that the NCR's weakness is how thin they are spread across all directions, and that to conquer the East they have to abandon the West (or was it reversed?) in order to deal with all the NCR troops. Or you have to convince him to not attack now but to attack later.
I barely could reach Oliver's ending because the NCR's quest line is completely bugged. I only reached it once, but I dunno what you can say
With Oliver as House, you need to convince him to get the fuck out of the Mojave because the securitrons can make quick work of anything.
With Oliver as independent, you do the same as with House, but you now also have the option to throw him into the Dam (and probably make the Burned Man equivalent of the NCR).
All I did right now is to try to correct on what you can say in the speech endings.
Fallout New Vegas' speech checks are done extremely right.
>>339368564
>bossfight starts with an instakill
>>339370050
It's the opposite in Jap games since white is the color of death and red is the hero's color.
>Pick up a belt of 6 shotgun shells
>Only 2 added to inventory
>>339373273
what the fuck is that pic
>>339369342
>hating Riki
What shit taste.
>>339371545
Shadowrun Dragonfall
It has pretty specific requirements though, you cant get it just by dumping a lot of points into charisma
>>339369229
>>339371364
Nope, Mother 3 was the worst. People suck that game's dick so hard, completely ignoring that its ending was M. Night Shamylayan-tier horseshit.
>>339373261
>Shot multiple times in the face during gameplay
>Blown up with rockets and greandes
>Drop off buildings and be hit by cars
>Surrender when one character pulls a pistol you in a cutscene
>>339373470
>to conquer the East they have to abandon the West (or was it reversed?
yeah it was reversed
also when i say you convince him that the mojave isn't worth it, that's what i mean. he has speech checks and barter checks, but both lead to the same conclusion: taking the west would stretch the legion too thin, e.g. not worth it.
oliver as house, yeah like i said you can convince him that the securitrons are too much for him, but he also has barter options you can use to give him something to take back to the ncr rather than just "hey, i won but we still lost."
>>339373336
>name one game
Killzone, Uncharted, pretty much every Call of Duty, Ace Combat.
>>339373106
>dark-souls tier of difficulty
>Main character is a naive idiot that doesn't know anything
>Everything going on is hard for him to understand
>Some shady shit is going on that everyone around him knows and understands
>They don't tell him anything and refuse to when confronted
>He gets used by the bad guy
>Everyone gets mad at him even though they are all equally to blame for not telling him shit
>Everyone else goes on like nothing happens, only the main character gets shit for literally everything
>One character betrays the party and nobody really cares after making amends.
Tales of the Abyss had me absolutely livid when it came to so many characters.
>you can put status effects on bosses
>Character knows almost everything important throughout the game becausehe was the one who fucking started a lot of that shit
>doesn't say anything cause he's not sure
>yet everyone is okay with this
Fuck you Jade.
>>339372926
This, jesus fuck. The Hobbit was made even worse with it.
>>339373273
I always keep my starting shitter weapon now, I'm tired of getting burned.
>>339373747
>Uncharted
the guy wanted to unleash a dangerous relic, how was he in the right?
>>339373962
>doesn't say anything cause he's not sureHe knew exactly what was going on, there was no doubt and he was just being coyHe didn't want to be blamed for anything though so he shifts blame onto everyone else and they go along with it because he's the smart one
> save in a dungeon
> not enough supplies to make it out
persona.
>>339372743
learn to use your defensive abilitiesOr just git gud
>player starts with all his super equipment
>shit happens
>player has to collect all his equipment again
or vice versa
>second or third game in a trilogy
>starts right after the events of the prequel or plays some years after the prequel with a more experienced MC
>has to power up again from lvl 1
and pls don't forget the glorious
>you can't use this part of equipment until shitfukker approves
>>339373747
>Uncharted
Who and how?
>>339371692
>the writers just used "U WOODN'T UNDASTANDU" so they wouldn't have to write a villain with reasonable motives that the player also wouldn't agree with
>>339372926
would Lufia count as this?
>>339374106
> player has to collect all his equipment again
fuck that noise.
>>339369747
>caring about what fictional pixel people made of computer code look like
>get lucky to have super OP equipment
>Cannot use it until you got 23 more levels
>>339374203
>by the time you level up 23 levels you've already found better stuff
>>339371902
fucking design like this drives me crazy. Every area should have a fucking point or it shouldn't exist.
>MC gets pulled into the plot because of shenanigans
>He just goes along with it
>>339373962
That little girl had a lot of blood on her hands.
You don't become a God General by studying the bible.
>>339374387
What if the point was torustle you that there was no point?
>>339368667
>kill him anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6UslpmPG9c
>>339374075
if you don't invest part of your money on all the Goho-m's you need you deserve everything you get
>>339372926
Nothing pisses me off more. Books, movies, games. They all do it. Why do they shoehorn romances into plots that are better off without them?
>>339374446
>>339374387
I think it's nice. it's basically the dev acknowledging the idea with detail.
>>339371468
thousands of violent criminals get away scot free every year across the world, one off the street could be multiple victims and crimes prevented. if you're a true vigilante, wouldn't you want that?Rehabilitation doesn't really work like in people's ideals.
>Characters can shrug off giant laser chainsaws and nuclear explosions in battle.
>But if someone pulls a knife on them in a cutscene they're fucking dead.
>>339373106
>Really nice game
>Cannot do shit, game is dark-souls (kek) tier of difficulty because it is supposed to be played co-op
>1 or 2 out of 6 characters in the game are not fully-co-op based in their abilities
Pic related. This game was fucking impossible to play on your own. And if you die you lose all your drops, money, and EXP. I think you'd even level down if you were really bad at the game. I never got past the first world.
>certain party members are temporary unavailable
>can't access their equipped items
>>339371980
>Shoe
>Needing allies when he can just Granzon niggas into oblivion
>>339369765
>>there was a really obvious solution to the problem where noone needed to die.
Every single fucking "push friend out of danger and get yourself killed by said danger" trope scene in fucking history.
It's like no one's ever heard of a fucking tackle, or momentum at all.
>>339374507
went in blind with little clue as to what the fuck I was doing. also it was persona 1 on the PSP.
>>339374193
Is this really all you see while playing games,watching movies or reading books?Characters are just text and code for you?
>>339373557
hippies.
burning man. Somebody must to drop a bomb in there.
>>339373962
>Party member is the strongest person in the world
>Father of his own field of science
>Would be the main villain of the story if he didn't end up on your team
Van was shit.
>>339374426
She was obviously mentally unstable from being separated from the original Ion, plus she was raised by literal animals. Have some sympathy, Jade """The Necromancer""" Curtiss.
>>339374735
>is a total dick hole
>>339372682
wtf is going on here
>>339374618
>when he can just Granzon niggas into oblivion
about that
>>339374671
not that anon but to presume that because he doesn't autistically over care about characters in a bad over reach comparison was pretty sad.
>>339368667
>fight through an entire army
>don't kill the leader because "you'll be just like him!"
because the lives of grunts don't count apparently?
>start of the game
>bunch of random character get stuck together
>no one seems to know anything
>end of the game
>turns out every single one of them knew at least something vital
>>339374778
>is a total dick hole
who has the same Japanese voice actor of >>339371980
>the obligatory joke weapon that is useless in an actual fight
>can be upgraded to the strongest weapon in the game eventually
>>339374998
not game but CUBE?
>fight boss
>has 10000 HP, Level 50
>Recruit it as a party member
>100 HP, Level 1
>main character starts with amnesia
>protag spends whole game asking questions in dialogue wheel options
>void of any personality
Just make him mute at this point. There's no difference really.
>Something vital is about to be said
>Gets interrupted by something trivial
>Doesn't get brought up again until way later, usually as some kind of big reveal
>>339371658
Eh, in Fallout 1 you actually convince him with an argument
Much better than UR AN ABOMUNIATION, HARRY in 3
>>339374790
Trigglypuff has appeared!
>>339375261
with that size that's not a reaction image nor is it pleasant to look at.
>>339375261
>Something vital is about to be said
>Screen shakes
>Explosion noise
>"WHAT WAS THAT?!"
>"I'll tell you later! Let's go!"
>The person about to tell you the thing dies 5 minutes later
>>339372443
I really like him after he learned to live with his issues.
>>339369091
fucking Arthas didn't drop Frostmourne
even Illidan dropped his warglaives
>b-b-but legendary weapons in legion
no frostmourne there either
goddamit blizzard give me my frostmourne
>>339375056
Planescape does it
>Higher difficulties just boost enemy stats
>>339374998
999?
>>339374790
Trigglypuff
Google it
>>339371658
>Fallout 1
It's a little more complicated than that as you find information the Master didn't know about IIRC.
>finally find the character that is very important to the backstory on why everything is happening
>literally tells you there is no time to explain
>promptly dies five minutes later
>>339375372
Frost DK artifact is made from broken Frostmourne
>>339368564
Hit Chances. I love watching 2 guys miss their 50% shots then get fucked up by enemies whose hit chances were 17% and 13%
>>339375417
I still don't understand why people find harder difficulties fun if they just do that
>In the first game you can just walk around an enemy and stab him in the back when he swings
>In the second game he will never break eye contact with you
>In the third you can try and circle around him but he will just punch you in the face
>>339368564
Snipers and ninjas
That is all
>>339375328
>>339375458
>Google it
got the name from the first dude and reading about it now. just needed the name. ty
why is everyone so irrational?
>>339371393
>>339371393
>Get to the big final boss
>100% commited to his grand plan
>years in the making
>his life goal to do this
>speech check to bring up some massive flaw in his plan
>stab him while he's thinking about it
literally never, but it'd be cool
>>339371364
>>339369229
>>339373573
>giant monster is destroying the world
>defeat the monster
>humanity is still fucked because the monster destroyed most of society, but at least they can pick up the pieces and rebuild
Has any game ever done this?
>>339370171
>I don't keep it loaded son
>>339368564
>in the story the protagonist guns down every mook he sees without remorse
>in a cutscene he's hesitant to kill some nobody he just met
why
>crit damage isn't 2*damage
>>339375785
ff6?
>Have to do swings and wait for animations to end and shit
>Enemy just walks into character and deals immense amounts of damage in less than 2 seconds
>>339370063
>character dies in a cutscene
>keep finding their gear throughout the game
>they only return in the optional superdungeon at the same level
Other one
>vest friend/rival character that comes and goes in the story
>get to a point
>shop sells his weapon type (dual swords)
>no-one can equip them
What the fuck star ocean 4, that was the weirdest fucking cock teese that you could get crowe as a playable character, I thought there was miss-able characters like SO4
>Russians are the bad guys for the 30 millionth time.
>>339375528
>I love watching 2 guys miss their 50% shots then get fucked up by enemies whose hit chances were 17% and 13%
>>339375589
Rationality is just a way to dismiss and oppress women
everdayfeminism.com told me so
>>339375534
If bosses and enemies are dying too quickly on lower difficulties I would say that it's better to increase the difficulty level, especially if the game is too easy.
>>339371624
>character never speaks
>body language does more for character development than most """"well written"""" characters
>>339375528
xcom was pretty good so in my mind xcom 2 had a 99% chance to be a good game
i guess i should have known better
>human enemies with no protection can survive a headshot
>>339375785
Gears of War series I suppose.
Sure the Locust get wiped out but everything else is completely fucked and no cities remain standing.
>>339374538
Murder doesn't work like in people's ideals, anon. There are actually many cases of rehabilitation though.
>kill final boss
>game gives me a bad end
>>339375459
It's information he would have had readily available if he weren't absolutely retarded. You'd think "capacity to reproduce" would be the first thing to check when examining the viability of a species, but apparently the Master was running his scheme for fucking years before somebody pointed it out to him.
It's also stupid because he could quite easily turn normal humans into mutants, and mutants were immortal. If he wanted to spread his master race across the world all he would have to do would be maintain a breeding stock of humans and turn the surplus into mutants. Even at a low population growth the mutants would easily overrun normal humans in a few generations just because humans were so quick to die off.
>>339368564
>game tells you to use information that it doesn't provide
>go talk to so and so over at this particular place
>where's that place?
>map isn't labeled
>npcs don't tell you anything
>nothing tells you in game
>turn off game, go online, find information
>return to game, talk to guy
>go get me these particular items
>where do I get those items?
>npc doesn't tell you
>nothing in game tells you
>mfw
>Xenoverse
>"WE GOT TO STOP IT BEFORE TIME GETS DESTROYED"
>you NEVER use the time Chamber to get stronger
>>339376042
Skulls are not made of styrofoam and people have survived more than a headshot irl
>chapters happen out of order
I hated Dual Destinies because of this shit
>>339375534
I could see someone's logic if resources were too abundant and they thought being forced to use more of them would make it a more exciting time but then the better solution would just be a difficulty setting that alters the resource drops.
>>339375785
FF7
>>339376042
is this courier serious?
>>339376042
phineas gage
>>339371545
In Deus Ex: Human Revolution you can convince the "bady guy" to help you defeat the thing and he regrets it, but if you cock up the dialogue battle he tells you to go fuck yourself and that he was right all along.
>>339375785
Pretty much Dark Souls and the Darkness/Fire cycle.
>>339375846
>crit damage is anywhere from 1.5x to 3x
>>339373573
What's wrong with Mother 3's ending?
>>339376174
Shittily written character in a shittily written game.
>>339375501
why do deathknights get nuFrostmourne when paladins get THE Ashbringer?
THEY ARE MADE FROM THE SAME THING
THEY ARE TWIN BLADES
>>339376135
not from a 50cal sniper rifle
>>339376135
>people have survived more than a headshot irl
Wow I totally wasn't expecting this inane response I completely take back my complaint thanks anon
>>339375785
shadowrun:dragon fall
>kill all the dragons
>oops you just caused a power vacuum
>immortal ghost insects are now killing the world
>>339375589
Because she's part of the "good guys" in her mind.
You don't need reason if you are "good guy", you just need mob justice
>>339368564
>What REALLY grinds your gears in vidya
Fucking CLIPPING FUCK I HATE THIS SHIT
>>339373375
No, the official statement is "NEW-U ISN'T CANON"
>>339376135
You should shoot yourself in the head to show him how wrong he is lmao
>>339371468
It's not about esoteric bullshit like escapism and "real life vs videogames". It's about writing characters that are believable as people that could exist. When a character makes a retarded decision that comes out of nowhere I have a really hard time being compelled any further.
It's a matter of writing
>game has a flamethrower
>it either does shit damage or the game never gives you enough ammo to have fun
>enemies dont react to being set on fire
>>339376324
>>339376184
>>339368842
Fucking FF4
>Have to go through 4+ floors of the hardest enemies
>Then get to boss fight
>Bunch of cutscenes, some of which are in the battle system so can't be skipped
>BIGBANGBIGBANGBIGBANG
>Party dead
>>339369765
>Beat that ice rock turtle thing in Toukiden
>It turns out to still be alive and tosses a boulder at the qt bow user
>Mfw your character shoves her to safety and tanks it
>>339375785
Devil Survivor 2
>>339375846
>crit for 3x damage
>Would be dealing 0 damage
>Crits ignore armour
>9999
>Enemies can just keep hitting and hitting until they corner trap you
>you can hit maybe 4 or 5 times before your stamina runs out
>>339375785
Xenogears
>Boss characters are bullet sponges that take 15 minutes to kill and have multiple instakill attacks
For all that Dawn of War II does right the boss fights are so fucked.
>you kill villain daughter
>villain teleports in and kills a main character with ONE FUCKING BULLET
>main character survived MUCH worse
What REALLY grinds my gears are sequels clearly aimed at a new audience and alienating established fans. Oh, but it still uses the same title, hoping it will bring some extra sales.
Just make a goddamn new IP and stop running everything I love into the ground.
>>339368737
You have any idea how many times airy did the whole thing? Millions of billions of times, she spent 12 BILLION years doing that shit over and over, and everytime something went wrong, she just flat out killed everyone and started doing again. In that reality some of the characters know exactly what will happen if they try to do something different, that's why they do what they have to do, all thanks to the book of D
>>339376579
>>Crits ignore armour
>Crits ignore buffs
>>339376349
Ghost insects were from Shadowrun Returns.
Siding with Dragonslayer in Returns makes those abyssal monstrosities take over, iirc.Great game
>Getting the true ending requires doing a lot of trivial and meaningless things that were not in any way indicated as important and could still be missed even if you were thorough and explored everything or requires specific dialogue or decision checks that are not at all obvious given what you know at the time of making the choice
>You won't actually know you've done something wrong until you get a bad ending or when key information is revealed much farther into the game
>>339376674
>Crits ignore self buffs making them useless mid-late game
I can't remember what did this
>When you reload a gun that still has ammo in the magazine, but the game doesn't account for the bullet in the chamber.
>Stylized guns that resemble real guns, but aren't because the developer was a fag
That really drives my autism.
>>339369815
Reputation was plenty stupid too.
>Kill a lone legionnaire who was the sole survivor of a scrap with merchants. No witnesses
>You are HATED
>Not 2 minutes later, Caesar's psychic legions descend on your ass
>Kill them in self defense
>You are no VILIFIED
>Hack & Slash game revolves around "Wait until enemy finishes attack pattern to attack him, rinse and repeat"
>Game doesn't have a parry system
>>339376730
Aria of sorrow wasn't that bad for the true ending.
>unsure if there are after-credits scenes
>unsure if skipping the credits will go straight to the after-credits scene or if it will skip it entirely
>have to sit through 10+ minute credits to see if there is any
>there isn't
>>339373273
Fukken Cave Story.
>That rich kid in your party conveniently has no money to help you buy crap
>>339370851
Bravely Default?
>enemy has block/shield move that absorbs all your attacks and doesn't take any damage in the process
>your block/shield move does jack shit and you take even more damage since your guard gets dropped from taking shots
>animation makes it look like enemy's attack is dodgeable and your out of harms way but it auto targets you near the end and you get hit anyways
>end of the world scenario
>merchant still asks for money for his supplies
>>339371545
Only one I can think of is New Vegas, which did it kind of well since the Legion would have fallen apart if they'd gone through with taking hoover dam.
I suppose Fallout 3 did it but fallout 3 does story like Joseph Fritzl does family friendly
>>339376872
>You are part of a government military organization, and part of a special unit at that.
>you need to buy everything.
>>339376872
>last shopkeeper before the final dungeon who is your friend sells everything for free because his business depends on you saving the world
>>339376042
>Boss in a FPS
>It's just a normal enemy, but with 50 billion health
>>339376859
>Can't skip credits
>Alt+tab pauses them
>Go make some food and come back after 15 minutes
>They're listing every staff member right down to the janitors from their branches across the world
>Fap on the neighbour's plants
>Come back and they're listing their family members and pets
>>339377000
To be fair that makes sense, he aint a merchant for nothing, and see if you win and stop the world from ending, he'll be loaded.
>>339377000
>end of the world scenario
>merchant no longer asks for money for his supplies
>he asks for the souls of the dead
>>339371682
People do this in real life if you switch "guy who betrayed" with companies.
>>339376650
Fucking Borderlands 2, so full of unnecessary plotholes and drama.
>>339377135
Medievil?
>>339377000
>give all my stock to some kid because he says he needs it to save the world
>kid saves the world
>great but now I'm up shit creek fucking broke
>send my kids to the poor house and suck dick behind a tavern for the rest of my life
>>339377123
This would almost make sense if he would haggle with you and not just deny you the weapon that you could use to kill the huge threat because you're 4 $$$$ short.
>game full of giant monsters and demons
>final boss is human
>>339377192
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/pol/
>>339377080
>Boss's health bar fills up
>you can shoot it before it completely fills
>kills it
>>339377115
every ass creed or ubisoft game in general
>>339370074
>shittily written comic relief character that fucks uo atmosphere and scene tension
>in the end this guy turns out to be the main antagonist
>he has no real reason to be bad
>>339377135
Demon's souls did it pretty well, because they tied the currency of the game to the lore and main plot. Soul arts. You need souls to not go mad in the fog, so warriors hunt for souls, merchants trade for them. It was very good.
Then Dark Souls kept the souls as currency, but removed the ties to the lore. Unsatisfying.
>>339377262
Well maybe you'll go to another merchant then?
Oh right they are all dead.
He hasn't survived by being a bad business man that's for sure.
>>339377075sauce
>>339377429
Lunar 2
>>339377394
And he won't survive because he's a tight jew who can't forgive 4 zenni.
>>339368667
Well yeah.
If you kill him for personal and revenge reasons then you're not better than him.
>>339376953
Despite going into the game spoiled, I didn't think Airy was obviously somebody you shouldn't trust until you had practically "beat" the game the first time, and assuming you did the vampire subquest. The only thing suspect prior to that was her frequently reminding you to go awaken the crystals but as far as the player was aware, awakening them was a good thing.
>>339374619
Glad I'm not the only one who gets pissed at this stupid shit.
>>339377198
>you CAN LITERALLY PLAY AS A FUCKING GOD
>a few Bandits can kill her
>>339374414
The opposite of this is almost just as bad.
>MC presented with facts of everything going on in a 5 minute cutscene
>"I dont understand"
>>339377381
fucking Portal 2
Wheatley was a piece of shit, he should have stayed in the tutorial section
>character that deserves to die is still alive
>It's suppose to be a giant speech to rally all the troops
>There 10 people max, and they look completely disinterested.
Last gen games really suffered from this.
>villain doesn't bother killing protagonist at the start of the game when villain is 1000 times more powerful because they're 'not worth his time'
>>339368564
>game is scripted so you lost most of the time
>that one time you win the following scene shows you losing
>>339377745
>(Simple explanation using any scientific jargon)
>IN ENGLISH PLEASE
>>339368564
When character interactions do not match or show proper synergy with each other, though this really applies for any kind of media for me. Best example I can give of this is Devil May Cry 4. I don't remember word for word, but it was something like this:
>Finish boss fight
>Berial: "Your powers are just like his."
>Nero: "His? What are you talking about?"
>Berial: "I MUST RESTORE MY POWERS!"
>He then explodes and disappears in a cloud of fire and they never talk again.
I would have either preferred Berial just immediately running away the way he did or him and Nero having some quick exchange of words that made it so that one didn't just immediately ignore another before running away. Just anything that shows that some kind of thought was put into it really. It bothers me when it's poorly done like this.
For another blanket example of poorly done dialogue that I've seen that bothers me:
>Bad guy says something somewhat meaningful or interesting
>Protagonist replies with a question or statement to the bad guy where the only possible and proper way to reply to it properly is to answer the question or statement head on which would also help fill in some of the mysteries remaining
>Bad guy only responds with "I'LL KILL YOU!" and throws an incoherent fit
>>339371682
What is Arthus?
>>339370282
Seifer didn't. Irvine did, but he also knew that everyone would have thought he was crazy if he said something. The SeeDs disliked him anyway, so he knew he wouldn't convince them.
>A character with stupidly high agility will start DODGING healing/support magic.
>>339375785
At the end of FF7 the world government collapses, the most technologically advanced city on the planet is pulverized by a meteor, a big chunk of the world's population is wiped out and people are forced to pretty much abandon all of their power generating infrastructure because it made Godzilla mad and everyone who knew how it worked got pulverized by the meteor anyway.
It's funny though because despite the fact that the game has the whole "the planet is alive and is mad at humans for polluting it" thing going on the battle between human technology and mystical planet powers goes 3-1 in favor of humanity.
>>339375417
>They also get abilities that make them hareder to hit while making it easier to hit you
>Sometimes they can ignore half your defense stat
>>339374619
>Heavy Rain
>Ethan tackles Jason
>He's even shielding him from the car
>Jason dies somehow
>>339373605
That shit was so refreshing.
>>339368807
Nip game?
Because we all know which side they picked the last time nationalism vs globalism came up
>>339371594
BKUB is a fucking treasure.
>>339376034
I still love how the broke the chance to hit rolls, one of the most basic mechanics in the game.
XCOM/Alien has a weapon with 15% chance to hit.
>>Situation where target has 10% chance to be hit
>XCOM:EW - 10% for shot to hit, if it hits then 15% of that shot to crit
>XCOM2 - 15% chance to hit with guaranteed crit
>>339372583
How have you never seen Sephiroth? He's one of the most well known FF villains, and he's like a template for edge.
Like if you ever played any online game or even browsed the internet in the 2000's / late 90's there's no way you wouldn't know who that is.
You can't even argue that it just seemed a little too long, it's one of the things he's well known for.
>>339368564
>Character knows information that could stop everything
>Doesn't say anything for no reason
WHAT IS GOLDEN FUCKING SUN
>>339377957
>Having a high magic resistance also makes you resist healing magic
>Realistic but still cool looking sword is shit
>Stupid fucking 12 foot dragon dildo with a hilt covered in shitty korean mmo glows is the best weapon in the game
>>339368564
name 1 game where this happened
jrpgs don't count
>magic resistance is completely fucking useless
>games still include the stat like anyone even cares
>>339378135
Hello warframe
>JRPG
>Able to summon meteors, kill gods and shoot fireballs out of all your orifices
>A small pile of rubble forces your party to take a long detour
>>339371624
>Silent antagonist
>>339378083
dammit meant 15% chance to CRIT
>>339372583
It's not.
But in the game it's actually kind of touched upon that it's retarded. Sephiroth is the only one good enough to still win fights despite using something so stupid as a weapon
>>339377135
>>339377217
Also Demon's/Dark Souls. Everything has gone to shit and metal currency isn't worth anything anymore, you trade with SOULS now.
>>339378135
Simple explanation: they intend for weapon designs to reflect their strength. It's easy visual shorthand when one looks plain and the other looks like a christmas tree.
>>339368564
>>339368737
The only time this was legitimate was Dark Souls 2
Everything that nigga did was a trial to make sure whoever beats him can beat that old bitch of a mastermind
>>339373962
I left this game halfway through, is it worth finishing?
Sometimes it's damn boring.
>That part where you have to look for the old man on various sites.
>that moment when you lose all your equipment
>Boss slowly walks towards you
>Sweet, lets fight
run up and initiate the encounter
>He slaps you down because you where supposed to run away
>Not even one of those "If you're good you can win" things.
>>339375785
NieR
>>339369815
>not exterminating those old fucks with him
>>339378363
>forced stealth section to get your equipment back
>Let's have a backtracking fiasco for a special item collecting hunt that serves no purpose other than filler,you like those don't you?
>character did a lot of bad shit
>expecting the karma hammer to fuck them up
>when you get the kingdom he becomes your advisor and you cannot interact with him outside choosing what to do with shit in your kingdom
>game company gets closed before the next game is announced, dipshit will always be remembered as the fuckshit who was a complete dickwad and never got punished for it
Fucking Fable 3
>Game company is closed because microsoft is shekeling
>Microsoft's excuse was that Lionhead didn't do anything to profit Microsoft as of lately
>Microsoft were the people who rejected Fable 4's setting of an actually grim-dark London-esque sequel
>Microsoft still demands immense amounts of money for the company when they try to sell it to other companies
>Devs still get shat upon for being the immature people of the story
>Devs were really just people and their reactions would have been similar to any other person's in their shoes
I already miss Lionhead. They closed down in late April (I think) and the devs looked like chill people.
>>339372013
Awakening did it too. All the female characters in Awakening and all the male characters in Fates do this because if they actually die then you couldn't go to the sidequests, so instead the just get injured.
>>339376472
The guy didn't keep walking around like nothing happened you fucking idiot. Your argument means nothing.
The problem is that enemies get shot in the fucking head and flinch at most, then get right back to whatever they were doing.
>>339375994
Why is he so perfect?
>>339371545
Mass Effect
>>339377957
no way this is real
>>339378363
>We took your stuff! Now you have to do a stealth section and spend five minutes re-equipping your party's gear
>>339377810
Oblivion and consequently Nehrim suffered pretty badly from that.
>This is the final battle to decide the fate of this realm!
>it's just seven standard guards
>>339376389
Which is a big retcon since the whole point of Pandora being a big chaotic mess was in part thanks to it.
>>339371545
While otherwise the writing was pretty damn good, Shadowrun: Dragonfall kind of dropped the ball here. Apparently that's just one of the possible outcomes, though, so it's not quite that bad.
>>339378247
>Have to journey across the entire kingdom and defeat the four strongest souls because stepping over a pile of rocks is too much work.
>>339368667
>this scene
Days of ruin gets too much shit
>Somebody dies
>30 year whining about it
>NAH I CAME BACK
>Dexfags are literally just "HURR I STUNLOCK U *UNSHEATHES KATANA* CRIT CRIT HAHAH UR R DED GIT GUD XDDD"
>Magicfags are just one button spammers with ridiculous DPS
>Warriors get left behind in terms of stats other than HP and just get spammed to fuck and back by Dexfags and as a result nobody wants to play them
I'm tired of being a big chunk of HP for the mages to stand behind, I want to be the Conan to their Merlin for fuck sakes
>>339378008
Was Jason autistic?
according to the Wiki he was 10 years old. 10 year olds aren't that stupid.
but for whatever reason he ran away into the crowded mall, walked outside and then wandered into traffic
fuck that game
>>339375846
>can get crit up to 7x damage
>my tonkor is stronk
>>339368564
>Character knows information that could stop everything
>Doesn't say anything for no reason
>>339373573
Except you're an idiot.
The dragon was going to awaken either way. Lucas, by harnessing its power, just rebuilds the world exactly as it was. The credits confirm that everybody is still alive and well.
>bosses scale with your level
>character skills and stats aren't based on your level
>gaining too many levels can make bosses impossibly hardfucking The Last Remnant
>Playing multiplayer
>Opponents abuse broken game mechanics to inflict shit such as setting on fire from a large distance with a short-distance weapon
>Opponents tell victims to git gud
>Forced stealth section
>While Playing a strengthfag
For what fucking reason is this shit so common
>We aren't bad, we are just trying to protect you from a greater evil
How about you Wonder-Go fuck yourself
>>339370739
Irvine actually tries to convince himself by talking to Squall before the mission. Squall, however, doesn't give him the easy moral justification he hoped for.
>Irvine: "So like... Is it true that SeeDs aren't supposed to question their mission?"
>Squall: "What do you care?"
>Irvine: "I mean...if you knew that your enemies were pure evil, you'd get more fired up to fight them, right?"
>Squall: ...An enemy that is pure evil? Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side.
>>339376176
>The Courier
I mean, sure, New Vegas is miles ahead of 4 and 3 but still
>Turns out you don't need your brain
>In fact when you talk to him it acts like you never used it
>YOUR FUCKING BRAIN
>>339377745
>thing done in popular fiction(zombies/time travel or something) happens
>on present day Earth
>somehow this media was never invented in this universe
>MC is also categorically retarded so the concept has to be repeated over and over
Even worse
>popular riddle(riddle of the sphinx/two guards two doors puzzle)
>MC has somehow never heard of it before
>>339371265
those were dlc extras, I don't consider them canon
>>339378836
Stealth sections in Action games is the developers way of telling you to shut te fuck up
I hate that shit
>>339378886
OWB was pretty much "comic relief, the DLC"
Especially funny if you had a low INT character, your brain goes as far as to berate you
>Open random lootbox
>Obtain ultra rare gear with good stats
>Can't wait to go to level max to use it
>Once you're max level your build has changed so much your rare gear is fucking useless
WELL FUCK YOU XENOBLADE X, I'M USING THAT KATANA ANYWAY
>>339378886
That scene was a mind-fuck (ba dum tss)
Apparently, the justification for it is that instead of lobotomizing the Courier, the auto-doc actually healed the Courier due to the bullet wound received back from Goodsprings because seeing the wound made it revert to not being a loboto-fucker and actually healed the Courier, but still replaced the brain with a coil that can still communicate with the Courier's brain because the brain was just extracted, but then it was stolen by a guy named after a geometrical loophole named Mobius and placed in a tank so that it cannot be taken by the Think Tank to manage to find a way out of Big Mountain and turn the whole Mojave into their playground.
>Lore speaks of epic battles with armies numbering in the thousands
>The biggest city in the game is a handful of houses, an inn and a variety of shops only beneficial to adventurers
>>339371692
fucking sovereign
>>339372013
I was gonna smash the game cartridge if I saw "oh hey we won the battle without killing anyone" one more time
>>339371545
xenoblade, which also pulls the "if you kill him you'll be just like him" card earlier
>>339371624
>silent protagonist that still grunts and canonically speaks
>there's an option to turn on voiceover
>its just the voice actor reading your choice out before the cutscene continues
>>339378516
What DOOM is this? The newest?
>>339378772
The reason is that Tifa was a lying, cowardly cunt who loved the idea of having her very own SOLDIER "childhood friend" even though she barely knew the guy.
>>339374564
I tried to play this game with four fucking players and it was still bullshit.
>>339378843
>we are just trying to protect you from a greater evil
But the Geathjerk said you were the greater evil.
If they were telling the truth their mission was successful too since the events of the game made the W101 realise they had to be responsible and shit.
>>339378634
I thought people loved DoR?
>>339376472
>>339376184
>Someone was an exception so now everyone has heads that can take multiple bullets regardless of angle
>>339378815
>Uses OP shit
>Acts like a faggot about it
>Tell them thy're using OP shit and aren't actually good
>HURR DURR EASY TO COUNTER JUST DO <completely ridiculous thing that involves changing your playstyle/build and retarded levels of planning to counter just one person> IT'S NOT MY FAULT YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO COUNTER"
>>339378772
>artist makes over the top uncanny valley-tier hyper realistic drawings of characters for patreonbux
>it still looks like shit
>>339379337
Sure is
>>339379415
It's mechanically solid, but got flak for completely shifting the tone compared to the rest of the series.
>Game allows you to make a character build centered around deadly status effects
>Bosses, mid-bosses, etc. are immune to most or all status effects.
>>339378815
>>339379441
>Do the exact same to them
>They explode in rage
>>339377309
Ugh this
>>339372069
>you can resurrect thousands of people at once, but you can't resurrect them AND a couple of people who should technically count among them, they have to be resurrected separately
>>339379528
So basically, plebs couldn't adapt despite it being better than Dual Strike?
>>339376739
Early gens of Pokemon, I believe
>get shot
>eat a hotdog
>health fully restored
>>339375896
GONZALES NO LIKE MATH
>>339373747
>Killzone
THANK YOU! FFS
>its a "USE MELEE TO MELEE" Boss
>you're a stealth build
>you have to Grind for days to increase strength skills
Fucking Skyrim Dragon piece of Shit final boss.
>Enemy factions that are fighting each other will suddenly drop everything and team up to take you down as soon as they notice you.
>>339371682
I was super happy Chausson was such a nice guy and all his political shadyness was in everyone's best interest, it's nice to have a game were the authority figures are genuinely doing their job for the right reasons even if it doesn't seem that way.
>>339379710
To this day, crits ignore buffs. Thank god, because cosmic power unaware clefable would be true horror..
>>339379614
Or maybe people were rightfully angry at an unexpected change to something established. Imagine of the newest Kirby game was actually a Contra clone about a regular WW2 soldier nicknamed "Kirby". A good game and still a sidescroller, but would you defend something like this?
>>339368564
>"now, let me test your strength / resolve / whatever!"
>If you win you both shake hands or whatever
>If you lose the dude fucking murders you and you get a game over
Seriously, what the hell is with this shit?
>>339372252
>The main antagonist "doesn't have time to deal with you"
>Keeps calling you on the phone to shoot the shit and make fun of you
Bioshock 2 is a case of this being done very poorly (LOL BUTTSTALLION LMAO)
Farcry 4 did it better, since Min is actually very invested in the protagonist.
>"Hero! You must stop the evil bad guy from using the world conquering mcguffin!"
>"By the way, that sword will cost you 100 gold."
>>339370063
Wasn't exactly 'surprising' but Doktor from MGRR saluting Raiden and making that comment was really awkward when I started playing as him like 2 minutes later.
>>339379778
Killzone was pretty damn horrible with that
>Helgast colonize planet
>Prosper
>IGA wants part of the cake after doing nothing
>Helgast refuse
>Get invaded, killed, and exiled to a fucking hell planet
>A hell planet so fucking nasty they literally have to mutate themselves to survive
>The try to invade to get their planet back
>Game acts like you are totally in the right and the Helgast are super-nazis
>You end blowing their planet up and killing billions of civilians
>but is totally OK because they were evil
>>339369636
Fuck, just anyone getting killed in a situation you could intervene is sickening.
Oblivion was the worst at this shit - they literally lock you from doing anything but watch the level one mook kill the Emperor. The Blades should've cut you down for that shit.
>>339379857
Guy Jean will never not be funny.
>>339380091
>Bioshock 2 is a case of this being done very poorly (LOL BUTTSTALLION LMAO)
don't you mean Borderlands 2?
Also, some fucks think Jack was well written
>>339379334
what game
>>339379579
Besting somebody at their own game is the best shit ever
>Play Dark Souls 3 with a friend when it comes out
>He rolls sorcerer, I roll knight
>He constantly brags about how his DPS is better than mine and "I GET JUST AS MUCH PROTECTION IN MY ROBES AS YOU DO YOUR PLATE ARMOUR SORCERERS ARE THE MASTER RACE HURR DURR"
>Mfw crystal Sage and Ocerios
>Mfw he has to summon me and sit back while I beat the shit out of the bosses because he does literally no damage
>Mfw 2 shot him with my greatsword while he was still trying to cast when we duelled
>set healer/support mage character AI to "Focus on healing/recovery"
>they run up and melee the enemy
>>339372671
I thought every character in TOS was fantastic.
I never had a problem with zelos. I also love that he is one of the few characters that can be permanently optionally evil or good based on what you choose.
>>339370515
Yeah, karma is weird that killing is always fine if they turn into a hostile mob by any means. I don't think you'll ever get negative karma if you antagonize someone through speech first.
>>339370074
And he's back for more in a cat costume.
>>339374106
>Recovers all of the equipment
>Fully powered
>Finishes the game 15 minutes later.
>>339379834
>Fighting boss as full melee
>Good times all around
>Whoops, time for me to fuck off to an unreachable platform and force you to use ranged weapons
>All you have is "Bow of Shit -5"
>Does 5 damage
>>339374106
I assume you are talking about Metroid, in which case what would you prefer, you go into every game after the first with all your powers and the game is 10 minutes long as you only go through the final area
That authorization shit is complete crap though
Path of Exile is really a Grinding Gear Game.
>>339380370
Oh wow.
Yes, I did in fact mean Borderlands 2, though now that I think about it Bioshock 2 might also qualify.
Sophia Fucking Lamb and her bullshit.
>>339377478
Lunar 1 too, no?
>>339379876
When you got a crit in Gen I, it ignored your own buffs. So you could do LESS damage by getting a crit.
And crits were far more common unless your name was Slowbro.
>Ice levels
![0cf8b89f34a777749f727017def3c1da9916eebd[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/aUWSDcp.png "0cf8b89f34a777749f727017def3c1da9916eebd[1]")
>>339380371
>>339378678
Because devs can't into child characters.
Either jap devs make them 30 year olds in the bodies of 8 year olds, or western devs make them toddlers in the body of 8 year olds.
Clementine was the only kid character that felt like you were interacting with a kid her age.
>>339375219
Disgaea ?
>>339379853
I mean, the dude had every chance and ability and power to save absolutely anyone he wanted, including his son. Decides it's in better interest if his son, a powerful man, is ordered into battle. His son dies. He tells NO ONE, he just acts with the mass in mind even when it kills his only family member and he could've easily prevented it.
>>339373126
Seriously, he was one of the only ones who actually understood that the world only continued to exist because you were working overtime to fix it
>>339379325
When did Xenoblade do that?
>>339368564
Once again I'd like to remind people that this comic is fucking stupid because it ignores that were was a VERY good reason for Braev to not explain himself, which is revealed later in the game and anybody who actually played it to the end should know why.
>>339380292
He doesï¿¿doesn't give a fuck.
>>339371393
>Get to the final big boss
>He convinces your companions to side with him
>>339379609
>>339372069
Choose to resurrect sister who died. Get a letter saying to meet her in the forest. Random npc is like jk I trick you!
>>339374816
He actually fixed it though
>Enemy is completely immune to magic
>It has a second form
>It's immune to physical damage
Fucking Living Armours in Dragons Dogma
>>339381096
>doesï¿¿
Ignore that, I'm using my the on screen keyboard because mine broke this morning. Gonna change it tomorrow.
>it's a "All enemies are 100% magic restance" level
>you're a Mage build
>>339381237
yeah but it shows that he can't fuck everything up on his own.
Especially if he appears in Moon Dwellers since the Fury can stop time for 10 seconds.
>>339380721
Well, I mean, getting critical hits in Gen 1 was also tied to your speed stat, so glass cannons would not just go first and be strong, they'd crit almost every time.
>play game facing regular enemies with no boss battles cause it doesn't fit with the tone of the game
>reach end of the game
>it's a fucking boss battle
>>339381315
If he does team up with Masakiand Syphis wakes upthere is literally no one who could take them on
>>339368564
Jackal snipers in Halo 2
>Game has a neutral element whose entire reason for existing is so there's an element nothing can resist.
>Late game enemies start resisting it anyways because fuck you.
>>339381415
>reach the end of the game
>there's no end it just stops, and the credits roll.
>>339381397
It's more like 30% of the time at most, unless you were using a move with improved critical chance, which quadroupled your critical chance, unless your base critical chance was then over 100%, at which point it was reduced by 10% of the remainder that was over 100%.
>>339380384
>tell ally to focus on healing and support
>burns through their entire MP bar on the first enemy we encounter
>game has a real time battle system
>can't just tell an ally to use an ability
>have to manually switch over to them, which unsummons the monster they're using, summon (or resummon) the monster with the ability you want to use, and then cast it
>meanwhile the character you were previously controlling is probably doing something retarded now
>>339381543
that means fuck all when the Fury can ZA WARUDO your ass
on a side note, both Masaki and Shu have voiced Dio Brando at some time.
>sequel assumes you haven't played the original installments and bombards you with unskippable tutorials and exposition
>sequel has a new control scheme and doesn't offer the option to use the previous game's controls
>>339381415
You got it backwards.
>play game facing regular enemies with no boss battles cause "it doesn't fit with the tone of the game"
No final boss is a fucking cop out by pretentious douchebags who think they're above conventions.
>>339381791
Did you forget what a Syphis powered Cybuster can do? Or has access to? Everything that happened, is happening or will happen in the universe or as he originally wanted to do with Shu when he believe he was evil: delete him from the universe
>>339381809
>Every sequel all the characters go back to treating the protag like a useless kid even though he's saved the world multiple times now.
>>339380668
Holy fuck I can't stand Sophia Lamb
It's really the only thing that stops me from replaying Bioshock 2 is having to listen to her bullshit.
>travel huge world with fantastic creatures
>see amazing shit all the time, magic spells, people raising the dead by sprinkling some liquid on them
>go on massive quest
>entire time, plot is told in riddles and cryptic messages
>main character just shrugs and says "ok, I guess I'll ask for clarification at the very end"
Also:
>6 party members
>only 3 available to use at one time
>all three die
>game over
What the fuck happened to the other three just waiting in the back? Do they get sucked into a vortex or something?
>>339381993
>Did you forget what a Syphis powered Cybuster can do? Or has access to? Everything that happened, is happening or will happen in the universe or as he originally wanted to do with Shu when he believe he was evil: delete him from the universe
what part of "THEY CAN STOP TIME" are you not getting?
>"Should I say important thing?" Yes No
>choose yes
>"No, I can't say important thing yet"
>"Should I say important thing?" Yes No
>>339376050
Yes but do you see someoen as the Joker ever becoming a normal human being? Or Skull-face? In those cases murder really is the only answer, batman is responsible for all the deaths the Joker causes
>>339382184
Holy fuck this shit made me so mad
>game allows you to make custom builds
>the only viable build is a STR or INT build
>>339381308
You took vivi here, didn't you?I wasn't paying attention to what they were saying about oeilvert ;_;
>>339382120
The fact that he can know when Fury is going to stop time and prepare himself for that beforehandOf course in the actual game they will probably wil lthemselves to move on stopped time or somethinhg, I mean they stopped the LCLification in @ by pure force of will
>>339368667
>Okay
>*BLAM*
Based Advance Wars Lin
>>339382184
"Will you take me to the castle?"
>no
"But thou must."
"Will you take me to the castle?"
>no
"But thou must"
"Will you take me to the castle?"
>>339382020
>"Oh yeah that's right, don't you press the A button to jump? Now I remember, it's been a while!"
>>339378678
No, David Cage is just a bad writer and Heavy Rain is his Magnum Opus of shit, the story makes no fucking sense and every character is unlikeable except for the smack addict
>>339382335
Thankfully Devil Survivor 2 BR fixed that by allowing you to make a insane DEX build that meant you attacked faster and harder than anything in the game
>>339382184
>Will you attempt to save this person?
>Yes
>They slip and die while you're trying to help them.
>No
>They slip and die while you're not trying to help them.
>50 hours later this meaningless choice will still have huge ramifications that make no fucking sense.
>>339382363
I always took at least one mage there so that a physical fighter could stay behind and babysit the group left behind.
>antagonist knows that the protag and friends are after him
>antagonist has all the power and resources to take them down early on, and is also aware that the party has the potential to grow stronger over time and be a real threat to him
>spares them, and is even nice enough to send grunts who aren't way outside of their league to fight them, so the party can grow stronger without too much hassle
>>339382020
>you can actually skip the tutorial in the first game BUT NOT IN ANY OTHER GAMES
>>339382335
>You have the option to dump points into MAG/INT
>But the main character never actually gets to learn magic.
>insane amount of hype for thing
>thing is completely phoned in
I'm still mad about Yhorm the Giant and the Profaned Capital, all three rooms of it.
Even worse:
>thing is hyped up in game
>you can't do thing
Bioshock Infinite made me pretty fucking mad about never fighting Songbird.
>>339378363
You were on an unarmed playthrough
>shooting someone in the foot with a sniper rifle kills him instantly
>>339378881
Man, Squall really was a one of a kind FF protagonist, for most of the game he really didn't let bullshit get in the way of his mission
>>339377804
he had a reason to be bad though
he was programmed to do the stupidest possible shitpretty meta when you think about it
>>339368667
Stupidest fucking trope in history
>hero and boss both humans
>hero has to chug down fistfuls of healing items
>boss uses none
>gets cocky when boss looses
>>339378107
>>339377957
i want more games that have stupid interactions like this
also
>healing magic exists
>either hurts or doesn't affect undead
good shit
>>339376190
I don't quite remember that. Who was the bady guy or the thing he defeats?
>>339373878
Everything he said including the picture has less to do with video games alone and more with storytelling in general.
also real people do that shit.
>>339382712
>"Will you save your girlfriend or will you save the doctors?"
>Save the doctors
>your girlfriend dies
>Save your girlfriend
>you saved someone else and your girlfriend dies with all the doctors
>>339371650
Wasn't that because Eden was a faulty AI and autumn just ha dhis base and most of his loyal soldiers exploded?
>>339378836
>forced stealth section
>in a fucking MMO
why did runescape do this multiple times
>>339381046
Well by the end they actually apologized to him for mistrusting him
>>339383379
That makes sense but the high agility thing doesn't at all.
Why would you dodge healing magic.
>>339382921
>Pokemon: Third Version
>hypes up a bunch of cool new features to distinguish it from the other two versions
>it's all unlocked in the postgame
>>339380879
Duck was a good illustration of that retarded hyper kid everyone knew without being overly childish.
>>339382921
>boss is hyped as the strongest fucker ever
>you can take him down in less than 3 minutes and have to hold back if you want to add dramatism to the fight or listen to their theme
Sundowner, Sam, I'm looking at both of you.
>>339376472
He was also completely unstable and couldn't control actions at times, he didn't just take the railroad spike to the head and go
>cool guys I'm ok just a spike through the head!
More like
>BLRLLRND RAILROAD SPIKE HEAS
>>339375417
>higher difficulty grants higher rewards
>unique equipment
>secret storylines
why don't more games do this
>>339384168
>taking down Sam in 3 minutes
Huh, took me a while to get him but MGR was my first character action game besides GoW.
>>339376650
kek what is the context of that togepi face
>>339382989
Shock?
>>339384267
Sometimes the higher rewards like gold drops and extra exp you get from being on the harder difficulty quickly makes it easier than the lower difficulties.
Like Dragon's Dogma.
>>339384267
TW didn't do this, did it?
>>339384334
>Being such a pussy that a foot shot sends you into a high enough level of shock to kill you
>>339384313
Yeah.
Sam is not half bad when it comes to his attacks and moveset, but he has incredibly poor health, so if you know how to shower him with attacks, he'll die quickly.
>>339376651
Ghostbusters?
>>339376650
Fuck borderlands for killing him in glad that stillborn died so fast they deserved that
>blam Roland's dead
>even though I'm a trained commando lets just stare at the enemy like a retard instead of shooting
>>339376650
>villain spends entire game trying to murder you and everyone you know
>you kill villain daughter
>he suddenly begins acting very solemn and serious and all of his threats to kill you and everyone you know are delivered as though they are much more serious now
>mfw I'm supposed to feel an ounce of sympathy for this guy before Pre-Sequel or Tales
Borderlands 2 has enough awful tropes to fill a fucking doctoral thesis.
>>339383525
Fucking Infamous 1
What a terrible 'choice' that was
>>339383956
i don't know but it's stupid enough that i love it
maybe something like
>unnaturally high awareness
>instinctively dodges out of the way whenever they are aware of something happening around them
>essentially just fucking paranoid
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