What REALLY grinds your gears in vidya
>Character knows information that could stop everything
>Doesn't say anything for no reason
Alternatively
>Character can see the future
>Reacts after seeing something horrible
>When asked whats wrong the character says "n-nothing!"
>If you kill him you'll be just as evil as he is!
If he had fucking told you, then the fucking fairy would have murdered everybody, and he knows that. How is a simple plot like Bravely Default still that hard to understand for some fucks.
>Character can see the future
>Reacts after seeing something horrible
>When asked whats wrong the character says "n-nothing!"
you never know what you might cause if you tell,as you telling could trigger the event or a worse one
>>339368564
>Kingdom is "good"
>Empire is "evil"
>>339368564
>mislead
>unsinkable cutscene
>before the boss
>skeletonson the floor
>weapons near them
>chest ahead of them
>can't do shit unless you trigger it
and
>enemy holding a weapon
>drops a different weapon instead the one he's holding
>>339368667
>playing new vegas
>kill a couple of powder gangers
>gain karma
>take the stuff from their camp
>lose karma
>>339368667
Huh.I guess you're right.
>>339368564
>Spend a bunch of time trying to save your friend
>Finally succeeds of saving him from certain death
>He dies anyway in the very next mission or later in the game
>>339368910
Look at it like grave robbing
>>339368994
>you don't get his equipment back
>>339368851
>The enemy's weapon isn't part of the loot table
>>339368910
what is this mysterious black man trying to keep from his comrade? This is the mystery of the century.
>>339369018
Oh.
Killing them and looting their bodies is good, but taking the ammo they had in their camp is a big NONO.
Thanks Obsidian.
>>339368564
>giant monster is going to destroy the world
>defeat the giant monster
>this dooms humanity forever because reasons
Extra points if there was someone who knew this would happen but doesn't say it for reasons.
Extra extra points of gear grinding if the story just ends that way, telling us some cynical "Don't be a hero" bullshit moral.
>>339368564
>Go behind waterfall, there's no cave
>Status effects are completely useless on enemies, but are devastating against your party
>FPS only allows you to carry 2 weapons
>post-apocalyptic world
>the leader is an evil tyrant who couldn't possibly just be trying to conserve what little resources they have left
>It can't be helped.
>Talking animal with "comical" bad spoken language.That second one stopped my playing both Xenoblades. Its the very worst thing I can think of.
>getting wrecked by the enemy
>they pull back
>"Maybe they were just testing us..."
>enemies have infinite mana/stamina
>>339369091
>early enemies have a tiny chance of dropping high quality and powerful gear.
>>339368564
>guy/grill you're not related to
>helps you throughout the game
>killed by the boss after the penultimate fight
Or alternatively:
>guy/grill from your childhood
>also a long lost friend
>killed in the beginning of the game
>his/her death triggers the start of the main questline and the game itself
>near the end of the game you find out he/she is actually alive and is the final boss
>>339368667
Have the WORST form of this
>Kill tons of antagonist's minions on to way to antagonist
>Spare antagonist because "if you kill him you'll be just as bad"
>>339369525
>character you the player has grown to love is killed in a situation where your character could clearly intervene
>>339368737
>and he knows that
How and why would he know that
Even if he did then he could have just fought Airy with you, its not like she is hard.
>Escort mission
>Game over if they die
>Get to the end of the mission
>They die in a cutscene
>They didn't even do anything to justify having to keep them alive in the first place.
>game is good
>music,combat,environment
>but
>characters are japanese tier autistic
>gorillion years old lolis
>can't talk about the game without looking like a total degenerate
>>339369636
>well-loved side character gives OH SO HEROIC AND NOBLE sacrifice.
>there was a really obvious solution to the problem where noone needed to die.
>>339368806
>>you never know what you might cause if you tell,as you telling could trigger the event or a worse one
Thats NEVER the reason they give though
Its almost always because the person seeing the vision was scared to say something or didn't think someone would believe them.
>>339368910
to be fair the karma system in new vegas was virtually unused
reputation was a hell of a lot more important
unlike say fallout 3 where you got bad karma for killing a ghoul after discovering he exterminated an entire settlement of people for no reason
>>339369636After all... a smile better suits a hero...
>>339369765
who's noone and why are you okay with his death?
>>339369815
They could've just not put it in the game.
Yet they did. Obsidian can be just as retarded as Bethesda.
>Hey guys, don't you remember? This woman helped us when we were kids, whe should try talking to her instead of shooting her in the head from a distance!
FFVIII - solved.
>>339369159
Well it originally belonged to the NCR, so you would be just stealing stolen property.
Still why you couldn't return it and gain twice the karma you lost is beyond me.
>>339368842
Got damn Crisis Core Sephiroth fight
>WHITE/BLUE = GOOD
>BLACK/RED = BAD
>Party member dies in a cutscene.
>In the very next room you find a piece of equipment exclusive to them.
>Surprise surprise ten minutes later it turns out they're totally okay.
Why even bother faking a death if you're going to drop the charade two seconds later?
>shittily written comic relief character that fucks uo atmosphere and scene tension
>>339369514
>With a nice combination of pickpocketing, crafting and the right choices you can obtain an amazing weapon that keeps getting better until the end of the game making you a powerhouse
Goddamn i love Star Ocean 2
>>339370074
>unfunny comic relief drags down the entire movie/game
>>339368564
> playable females
> playable shitskins
> nazis portrayed negatively
>>339369970
na na na the GFs made them forget everything m8
it's a shitty justification but it's better than nothing
>>339369514
>most powerful gun in the game
>available to get from the first conversation.
>>339370165
Seifer and Irvine remembered everything but didn't talk about it.
>>339368564
Fucking Shulk goddamnit just say it you little shit
>>339370074
jar jar blinks effect
>>339368564
>It can't be helped. We have to use "that".
>>339369310
alternatively
>you get too op for the status have any effect on the enemy
>Enemy NPCs clearly see you've just slain 100s of their comrades with ease
>Think they can take you on once you get to them
>>339370286
>b-but muh burden
>>339369473
>enemies don't run out of ammo
>loot their corpses
>2 bullets in their inventory left
If only I had waited for 2 more shots
>find a cool looking weapon/treasure
>'it has a name here,let's try to return it to the owner'
>can't take it for yourself
>'thank you hero,here's some reward for your trouble'
>'space diamond necklace/blessed sword of demonic dragon slaying lost'>small red potion gained
>>339369950It was just a quick way to set up everyone around the player to become hostile if he stole items from a potentially hostile factionThe game doesn't support hostile actions made specifically for one faction when it comes to inworld items like that.
>>339369970
You are in a school of mercenaries. You should be able to kill close family members if they are a dire threat.
Irvine's reaction was completely justified for someone who was nothing but talk
>>339370074
>Whole game goes to shit because of said character
>Nothing negative ever directly happens to them
>NORMIES LOVE THEM BECAUSE SO FAHNNY JOEK
>>339370050
Wearing the colour blue literally makes someone easier to trust though, thus "good" connotations
>>339369815
Ugh, I just did the bounty mission, went into his hideout and killed the bastard. You don't lose karma if you tell him you've come to kill him. The worst that happens is Threedog razzing you for it.
>>339369970
>>339370165
>>339370282
Ignore the orphanage sequence.
There, FFVIII story is now perfect.
>>339369628
To be fair it's about not giving to your hatred. Because if you have already defeated him why give the coup de grace?
Different from mooks that most of the time you are just protecting yourself, who attack and never surrender. Then you are justified to kill those.
In some games that mooks surrender you do lose karma for killing them.
>devs make their own original weaponry/armor
>it's just a clusterfuck of random shit that makes no sense and is retarded to anyone above the age of 13
Japs are often guilty of this.
The "oh, it's nothing" is even worse if they're not a character that can see the future. Like there's a massive thing going down or already went down that they're privy to, and they arbitrarily keep quiet because otherwise the characters wouldn't be able to wander around the world map for another 30 hours. DRAMATIC TENSION~~
>>339370474
Huh, that actually makes sense. Irvine must have thought Squall and company were some badass motherfuckers
>>339370613
>Because if you have already defeated him why give the coup de grace?
To keep the fucker from coming back?
>>339369342
Riki is ok, but holy shit Tatsu is a useless fuck. Nothing like the great heropon.
>>339370613
Name one. I want to play it.
>>339368564
>Family/Friend dies two minutes into the game
>player is forced to feel bad about them
dear game developers... i dont fucking care. I cant even remember about the last time, some game had a decent character development, before killing them of.
>character is obviously evil
>so obvious you figure it out on your own
>still have to go along with them to get the true ending
>>339370625
>whiskers to feel enemies with
point it around da cornah... here comes da whiska whiska...
Katanas.
>>339368842
Fucking Soul Hackers
>>339370613
That's bullshit.
Those mooks could be conscripted by force. They may be dirt poor and this is the only way to keep their starving families fed.
>enemies that constantly stun-lock
>putting points into persuasion is a waste since its never used 90% of the way into the game
>do a quest to retrieve an "artifact"
>turns out its a "weapon pertaining to the class you play as that does googolplex damage" artifact
>initiate conversation with NPC
"This isnt what I thought it would be, but I need to bring back something from my travels
-Well, here it is, have it
>Well, if you don't want it... (PERSUASION 3% CHANCE SUCCEED)
-Sarcastic
Fuck games that dont use perks until way late into the game
>>339370817
FFVII was good about this. Every death seemed to pack a punch.
>>339370392
>>339368564
>enjoy the party protagonist!
Quest updated: Speak to the >guests
I fucking hate it when the game forces you to walk around a boring ass party doing stupid shit (yes I'm talking to you hearts of stone). These kind of quests usually take forever and kill my mood almost instantly
also, quests where you have to protect some retarded asswhipe that gets him/herself killed every time
>see an obvious trap
>can't disarm it
>can't avoid it
>only way to continue with the game is to trigger it
>>339368842
FUCKING RIKU IN KINGDOM HEARTS!
Here's what grinds my gears:
>Can't skip tutorials in 2nd playthrough
>You need to go through some pointless missions before you get to the good stuff
>Hardest difficulty is an unlockable
>Forced Memes that date the game in the future
>Character does something later in the story that they could've done earlier to help themselves (Example: Virgil in DMC:Devil May Cry can teleport and use his summoned swords near the end of the game like DMC3 Vergil but with no explanation when he could've used them before plus he just turns evil all of a sudden after Donte beats Mundus)
>Enemies in fast-paced games are colour coded and need to be killed depending on a certain weapon
>Day 1 DLC
>You save a character that's in real big danger where you could've died then he/she dies 10 minutes later (Walking Dead Season 2 is shit)
>Pausing every 5 seconds to switch weapons can be a pain
>It's the Final game in the series, the last game is shit
>Last game was amazing, 'last game was released in 2002'
>Collectable Quest gives you nothing
>slashing attacks piercing armor
>>339368842
>AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA is unskipable
Many people to this day still dont want to replay this game because of it
>Kill a character
>They come back anyway later in the game/ in the sequel to be redeemed
FE Awakening annoyed me doing this
>Oh no the Queen tragically gave her life
>No wait she's just retarded now
>You stopped the Mad Tyrant King!
>No wait now he regrets everything
>You stopped the unstoppable conquerer!
>No wait he's alive too
>You stopped the cultist leader's second hand woman!
>Nope alive and was brainwashed as a kid but perfectly fine following a satanic cult by her own will now, please pity her.
But the worst is Blizzard games. Death has zero meaning in WoW and Starcraft 2.
>>339370565
Can't ignore the orphanage sequence because of Edea.
Space segment is also a shit show.
>>339370889
>Knock an enemy down
>You can't damage them until their get up animation finishes.
>Enemy knocks you down
>They're free to beat the shit out of you while you're getting up.
>>339369229
>>>giant monster is going to destroy the world
>>defeat the giant monster
>>this dooms humanity forever because reasons
Chrono Cross was the worst offender to this
>Get to the big final boss
>100% committed to his grand plan
>years in the making
>his life goal to do this
>speech check to get out of fighting
>"You don't have to do this"
>"you're right I don't"
>>339369342
The nopon arent animals though
>>339369840
fucking tilted
>>339370772
The problem is that people usually equate games with real life. So they usually go 'why don't Batman kill the Joker? He will just come back anyway.'
In real life prisons aren't easy to be escaped. And in videogames death is not finality. The point is that the villain will come back if destiny (which is the writers) decide they want them back. And even if they somehow stay dead in the sequel, the second problem is that this doesn't stop anyone from taking his fallen mantle.
So yes, he is coming back. And if he doesn't then someone else will. No reason to lower yourself for a finality that doesn't exist.
>>339368564
>bard character
>only knows one song
>sings the same line over and over again
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vWVbTuw.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>339370074
>>339368842
>titenic
>>339370958
You are absolutely right about FFVII, but it was released almost twenty years ago...
>tfw your favourite party member is forever locked out after a certain point.
>>339371393
Any game that does that?
>>339370886
Metal Gear Rising actually brought up this point. I found it pretty interesting.
But yes, regardless of the reason: you are still protecting yourself. Which is different from them falling down and the game giving you a clear choice to what to do with them.
>>339371208
Forgot but:
>You get the choice to kill antagonist
>Choice doesn't matter
>"Killing him is wrong even though he is responsible who ruining everything"
FF13-2 did this, what was the point?
>>339371328
How so? Just accept the mercenary schools are a thing in the world. It's completely ignorable since the garden existence was never something that needed some answer.
>>339369840
>silent protagonist
>>339371545
Fallout 3 did this and it was pants on head retarded
>>339371545
Fallout 1, New Vegas and Fallout 4 do this. Although the latter is combing the Big Bad to help you save some innocent NPCs.
>>339371545
The "you are an abomination of science" line from fallout 3 is worse than that.
>>339371517
>character does nothing wrong
>everyone acts like he's literally worse than Hitler
>meanwhile the guy who betrayed your entire race can do no wrong
>You wouldn't understand my motives even if I told you!
>The motives are easily understandable.
>>339371393
>He then proceeds to kill himself.
>>339371624
That's for self-insert purposes
>>339371658
*Convincing
Fuck
>Protagonist I love you!
>Did you say something?
>N-nothing
>"It can't be helped."
>it can clearly be helped
Thanks Japan
DLC replacing Expansion Packs
>>339369310
>Go behind waterfall
>There's a cave
>There's nothing in the cave, it's just an empty room
>>339371204
this and general logically avoidable stuff annoy the crap out of me
>>339371697
This was actually cool and good and you still fight his husk afterwards?
>>339371810
It's more like an anime cliché...
>>339368564
>>Character knows information that could stop everything
>>Doesn't say anything for no reason
like this prick
>>339371265
>Hating on epilogue bonus chapters that weren't even in the base game
Wew lad they were fun and fine, the queen slammed her head from a pretty long fall straight into the ground
Now what really pisses me off in FE:Fates however:
>Series known for characters dieing off, hard to get a playthrough without resetting and no-one dying
>Instead of building on this, important characters are now just retreating from the battle
STOP IT, JUST BUILD ON IT YOU FUCKING CHINKS, IT WAS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT MADE FE SO GREAT
FIX THE PACING OF YOUR STORY INSTEAD OF MAKING 3 SHITTY ONES
STOP IT WITH THE FUCKING FOOD/TRAINING SUPPORT DIALOG
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgameplay from fates was quite good though, fun game
>>339369840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EtNfOHnbPUDo not look at me so...
>RPG
>get called a fool for not having certain level to fight boss
>easily defeat boss even with a lower level
or
>ability to make any wish you want
>only 3 wishes available
>morality based
>one is karmic good, gives renown and nothing else
>one is neutral, brings your fucking treasure-hunting dog back to life which died but the ending is now obsolete because the DLC added human sacrifice to bring it back
>one is bad where you get enough gold to buy a castle with the only thing special about it being a gender-changing potion. Now obsolete because you can abuse a bug with setting time on your console
>THANKS FABLE 2
>character is an obnoxious pedophile
>nobody reports him to the police
>Not worth using status effects on regular enemies
>Bosses are immune
> player can resurrect with his cloning network
> villain can't
still confused
>game feels too gamey
>Be playing Horror Survival Game
>Player character is a grown ass man
>Can't bust through a wooden door
>Can't physically contend with monsters
>Can't swim
>Sometimes can't even jump or climb
>But anon if you could do all those things it wouldn't be scary
Then make the character a little girl or something don't give me an adult man and then expect me to believe he can't muscle his way through a decrepit run down old wooden door that for some reason HAS TO HAVE A KEY despite the fact that I, the player, can visibly see the door is broken as fuck and my fat ass could probably get it down but nooooooo
>>339372069
Fable 2 is stupid anyway. Imagine the impact of hundreds of people returning to their homes overnight.
The good ending leads to starvation, death and disease.
>>339371958
Yes, it's impliedsovereignnever trusted him and just put an independent skeleton in him just because.
We could have gotten a techfreaksarengradually becoming mad from having a robot inside him controlling his own body, while he's forced to watch it.
>>339372252
Bioshock too
>>339372267
This, and horror games with jumpscares. Fucking nothing jolts you out of your immersion like something jumping out and startling you for no reason.
>>339371393
That's usually a shounen thing. It's still bullshit though.
>Protag has to flip a switch to do good thing, but it'll kill him
>Companion can flip the same switch harmlessly
>Companion forces protag to do it because "destiny"
God fucking damnit FO3
>>339368564
See I hated that shit in Xenoblade until Reyn calls Shulk out on it and calls him a moron for not sharing his visions
Best way to counter that cliche
>>339372469
Fuck you Speck, why didnt you just send a redshirt
>>339370881
I'm guessing that's an edit but I'm not 100% sure.
>>339372469
>expansion changes it so that indestructible super mutant amigo can flip the switch
>Narrator still cusses you out
>best sword in the game is a katana
>>339370074
>>shittily written comic relief character that fucks uo atmosphere and scene tension
this prick
>unskippable tutorials
>>339371697
Man I always want to replay ME but that fucking combat. Fucking rockets.
>>339372671
Why does every Tales game have a traitor whom you just forgive?
>>339368842
>unsinkable
>>339372617
>you're a bad person for doing what, logically, in their very own established lore, would be a perfectly logical thing to do
>>339369696
>its not like she is hard.
But they lose when they first fight her in the non-canon ending.
>>339371705
>self-inserting in video games
when will this die?
>>339372743
Play as a tech + biotic combo. You'll get the biotic shield and physics attacks, and can also shutdown enemies.
>Forced romance just for the sake of having one in a plot where it's REALLY out of place
Jesus Christ not every story needs a love interest.
>Game keeps blabbering on how you are the good guy, and the enemy is literally worse than hitler.
>The enemy is clearly justified and you are actually the bad guy, the game never acknowledges this.
>>339371658
>new vegas
the speech checks are a bit more than "you don't have to do this"
in fact if you say things like that to ulysses, he'll basically just say "yes i do." and even if you win the speech checks, you can still screw up the dialog by saying the wrong things and he'll fight you.
in order to overcome ulysses with words, you have to convince him that you have the power to change whatever flag you fly under (idk what happens with independent) for the better like you did with the divide (before blowing it up). otherwise, he remains convinced that the remnants of the old world need to die so that new civilizations can come into being without being tainted by old world beliefs.
with lanius, you basically have to convince him that the mojave isn't worth it. it wasn't his plan to come out there to begin with, he's just blindly loyal to caesar and caesar was obsessed with the dam and the ncr.
with oliver as legion, you just have to convince him that he's fucked and his best option is to get what men out that he can.
with oliver as house, you either make it apparent he's fucked or strike a deal with him.
with oliver as independent, i don't remember because i rarely do independent. probably similar to house.
all of these speech/barter checks make sense as they're things that could reasonably convince the character to turn away.
ulysses can be turned from his path if he can be convinced that destroying the old world isn't the only way to create a new one, lanius and oliver can be convinced simply by pointing out what will happen if they continue their current course (or with oliver/house, incentivizing him).
and neither oliver nor lanius came up with the idea to take over the mojave in the first place. the ncr council and probably kimball decided they wanted hoover dam for obvious reasons and caesar wanted it because the ncr was a force that could challenge him. both oliver and lanius were just soldiers carrying out orders, it makes sense to speech them.
>>339372665
holy shit i rmember that flash game
>>339372751
Because they aren't well written and rely on overused anime tropes.
All of them.
>Character lies/wont tell someone their reasoning
>Literally no reason to do so
>Other person gets angry when they find out
It happens all the god damn time and it makes me so mad.
>>339370378
What? Shulk told everyone what he had been seeing after the first few visions.
>>339372069
Continuing
>Have to grind hours to get cool content
>9 hours in
>"you have unlocked : ability to walk 1% faster"
>Really nice game
>Cannot do shit, game is dark-souls tier of difficulty because it is supposed to be played co-op
>1 or 2 out of 6 characters in the game are not fully-co-op based in their abilities
>Super badass one-man-army war machine
>Cannot swim, bash through walls or go through wooden doors that are blocked with a fucking wooden board
>Great game concept
>So poorly executed it kills off the entire genre
>Have squad consisted of a comic relief, healer, and a Deus Ex Machina that is at least 496x more powerful than your character in it's own right
>Still have to sacrifice by yourself to stop an evil
>Great game concept
>No dev sees value in it and continues to pump out shitty card games and tower defenses
>Replay game for the seventh time
>Cutscenes and tutorial still cannot be skipped
>Diplomacy is "Press A to be friends, press B to be enemies"
>Begin anew with a very long game that took you a very long time to finish 100%
>No New Game+, not able to skip tutorial or cutscenes, still need to travel for hours to reach somewhere
>Super army of extreme proportions with extremely advanced technology sends out a guy armed with a pistol to manage to defeat the tribal menace because super army cannot defeat it
>Super army sends out a guy because they cannot defeat enemy super army
>Guy easily wipes out super army by just shooting each baddie 1-2 times.
>>339369840
I had to stop playing for a while. Fuck that garbage, he was the best character in the game.
>>339372583
It's not...
>>339373106
>dark-souls tier of difficulty
>>339372751
at least in Symphomia you can go down the route and kill that horrible character
>your character is an unstoppable juggernaut during gameplay
>he surrenders to 3 normal grunts in a cutscene
>limited inventory space
>switching weapons like every second enemy due to drops
>'hey fuccboi,you don't have your starting weapon?'
>too bad,i can only make the best weapon in the game with 'old and busted rusty training sword :^) '
>>339372926
>game has multiple forced romances and only one ending, where only one of the girls win the MC, awkward as hell
>>339372926
>Jesus Christ not every story needs a love interest.
some games would be better off without a love story.
Like FF8, holy shit it was so badly written.
>>339372948
>The enemy is clearly justified and you are actually the bad guy, the game never acknowledges this.
name one game
>>339372252
Iirc it was basically ego. He kept the players in the respawn network cause it made him lodesemoney but never thought he would lose and need it. It's a dumb reason but hey, randy pitchford writing.
>>339368564
>When asked whats wrong the character says "n-nothing!"
At least Xenoblade kinda shit on that trope.
>Shulk, what did you see?
>I-it was nothing.
>Goddammit Shulk this is the second time you said this and I almost died last time. you better tell us everytime you have a vision
>>339372961
You actually have to convince Lanius that the NCR's weakness is how thin they are spread across all directions, and that to conquer the East they have to abandon the West (or was it reversed?) in order to deal with all the NCR troops. Or you have to convince him to not attack now but to attack later.
I barely could reach Oliver's ending because the NCR's quest line is completely bugged. I only reached it once, but I dunno what you can say
With Oliver as House, you need to convince him to get the fuck out of the Mojave because the securitrons can make quick work of anything.
With Oliver as independent, you do the same as with House, but you now also have the option to throw him into the Dam (and probably make the Burned Man equivalent of the NCR).
All I did right now is to try to correct on what you can say in the speech endings.
Fallout New Vegas' speech checks are done extremely right.
>>339368564
>bossfight starts with an instakill
>>339370050
It's the opposite in Jap games since white is the color of death and red is the hero's color.
>Pick up a belt of 6 shotgun shells
>Only 2 added to inventory
>>339373273
what the fuck is that pic
>>339369342
>hating Riki
What shit taste.
>>339371545
Shadowrun Dragonfall
It has pretty specific requirements though, you cant get it just by dumping a lot of points into charisma
>>339369229
>>339371364
Nope, Mother 3 was the worst. People suck that game's dick so hard, completely ignoring that its ending was M. Night Shamylayan-tier horseshit.
>>339373261
>Shot multiple times in the face during gameplay
>Blown up with rockets and greandes
>Drop off buildings and be hit by cars
>Surrender when one character pulls a pistol you in a cutscene
>>339373470
>to conquer the East they have to abandon the West (or was it reversed?
yeah it was reversed
also when i say you convince him that the mojave isn't worth it, that's what i mean. he has speech checks and barter checks, but both lead to the same conclusion: taking the west would stretch the legion too thin, e.g. not worth it.
oliver as house, yeah like i said you can convince him that the securitrons are too much for him, but he also has barter options you can use to give him something to take back to the ncr rather than just "hey, i won but we still lost."
>>339373336
>name one game
Killzone, Uncharted, pretty much every Call of Duty, Ace Combat.
>>339373106
>dark-souls tier of difficulty
>Main character is a naive idiot that doesn't know anything
>Everything going on is hard for him to understand
>Some shady shit is going on that everyone around him knows and understands
>They don't tell him anything and refuse to when confronted
>He gets used by the bad guy
>Everyone gets mad at him even though they are all equally to blame for not telling him shit
>Everyone else goes on like nothing happens, only the main character gets shit for literally everything
>One character betrays the party and nobody really cares after making amends.
Tales of the Abyss had me absolutely livid when it came to so many characters.
>you can put status effects on bosses
>>339368564
>Character knows almost everything important throughout the game becausehe was the one who fucking started a lot of that shit
>doesn't say anything cause he's not sure
>yet everyone is okay with this
Fuck you Jade.
>>339372926
This, jesus fuck. The Hobbit was made even worse with it.
>>339373273
I always keep my starting shitter weapon now, I'm tired of getting burned.
>>339373747
>Uncharted
the guy wanted to unleash a dangerous relic, how was he in the right?
>>339373962
>doesn't say anything cause he's not sureHe knew exactly what was going on, there was no doubt and he was just being coyHe didn't want to be blamed for anything though so he shifts blame onto everyone else and they go along with it because he's the smart one
> save in a dungeon
> not enough supplies to make it out
persona.
>>339372743
learn to use your defensive abilitiesOr just git gud
>player starts with all his super equipment
>shit happens
>player has to collect all his equipment again
or vice versa
>second or third game in a trilogy
>starts right after the events of the prequel or plays some years after the prequel with a more experienced MC
>has to power up again from lvl 1
and pls don't forget the glorious
>you can't use this part of equipment until shitfukker approves
>>339373747
>Uncharted
Who and how?
>>339371692
>the writers just used "U WOODN'T UNDASTANDU" so they wouldn't have to write a villain with reasonable motives that the player also wouldn't agree with
>>339372926
would Lufia count as this?
>>339374106
> player has to collect all his equipment again
fuck that noise.
>>339369747
>caring about what fictional pixel people made of computer code look like
>get lucky to have super OP equipment
>Cannot use it until you got 23 more levels
>>339374203
>by the time you level up 23 levels you've already found better stuff
>>339371902
fucking design like this drives me crazy. Every area should have a fucking point or it shouldn't exist.
>MC gets pulled into the plot because of shenanigans
>He just goes along with it
>>339373962
That little girl had a lot of blood on her hands.
You don't become a God General by studying the bible.
>>339374387
What if the point was torustle you that there was no point?
>>339368667
>kill him anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6UslpmPG9c
>>339374075
if you don't invest part of your money on all the Goho-m's you need you deserve everything you get
>>339372926
Nothing pisses me off more. Books, movies, games. They all do it. Why do they shoehorn romances into plots that are better off without them?
>>339374446
>>339374387
I think it's nice. it's basically the dev acknowledging the idea with detail.
>>339371468
thousands of violent criminals get away scot free every year across the world, one off the street could be multiple victims and crimes prevented. if you're a true vigilante, wouldn't you want that?Rehabilitation doesn't really work like in people's ideals.
>Characters can shrug off giant laser chainsaws and nuclear explosions in battle.
>But if someone pulls a knife on them in a cutscene they're fucking dead.
>>339373106
>Really nice game
>Cannot do shit, game is dark-souls (kek) tier of difficulty because it is supposed to be played co-op
>1 or 2 out of 6 characters in the game are not fully-co-op based in their abilities
Pic related. This game was fucking impossible to play on your own. And if you die you lose all your drops, money, and EXP. I think you'd even level down if you were really bad at the game. I never got past the first world.
>certain party members are temporary unavailable
>can't access their equipped items
>>339371980
>Shoe
>Needing allies when he can just Granzon niggas into oblivion
>>339369765
>>there was a really obvious solution to the problem where noone needed to die.
Every single fucking "push friend out of danger and get yourself killed by said danger" trope scene in fucking history.
It's like no one's ever heard of a fucking tackle, or momentum at all.
>>339374507
went in blind with little clue as to what the fuck I was doing. also it was persona 1 on the PSP.
>>339374193
Is this really all you see while playing games,watching movies or reading books?Characters are just text and code for you?
>>339373557
hippies.
burning man. Somebody must to drop a bomb in there.
>>339373962
>Party member is the strongest person in the world
>Father of his own field of science
>Would be the main villain of the story if he didn't end up on your team
Van was shit.
>>339374426
She was obviously mentally unstable from being separated from the original Ion, plus she was raised by literal animals. Have some sympathy, Jade """The Necromancer""" Curtiss.
>>339374735
>is a total dick hole
>>339372682
wtf is going on here
>>339374618
>when he can just Granzon niggas into oblivion
about that
>>339374671
not that anon but to presume that because he doesn't autistically over care about characters in a bad over reach comparison was pretty sad.
>>339368667
>fight through an entire army
>don't kill the leader because "you'll be just like him!"
because the lives of grunts don't count apparently?
>start of the game
>bunch of random character get stuck together
>no one seems to know anything
>end of the game
>turns out every single one of them knew at least something vital
>>339374778
>is a total dick hole
who has the same Japanese voice actor of >>339371980
>the obligatory joke weapon that is useless in an actual fight
>can be upgraded to the strongest weapon in the game eventually
>>339374998
not game but CUBE?
>fight boss
>has 10000 HP, Level 50
>Recruit it as a party member
>100 HP, Level 1
>main character starts with amnesia
>protag spends whole game asking questions in dialogue wheel options
>void of any personality
Just make him mute at this point. There's no difference really.
>Something vital is about to be said
>Gets interrupted by something trivial
>Doesn't get brought up again until way later, usually as some kind of big reveal
>>339371658
Eh, in Fallout 1 you actually convince him with an argument
Much better than UR AN ABOMUNIATION, HARRY in 3
>>339374790
Trigglypuff has appeared!
>>339375261
with that size that's not a reaction image nor is it pleasant to look at.
>>339375261
>Something vital is about to be said
>Screen shakes
>Explosion noise
>"WHAT WAS THAT?!"
>"I'll tell you later! Let's go!"
>The person about to tell you the thing dies 5 minutes later
>>339372443
I really like him after he learned to live with his issues.
>>339369091
fucking Arthas didn't drop Frostmourne
even Illidan dropped his warglaives
>b-b-but legendary weapons in legion
no frostmourne there either
goddamit blizzard give me my frostmourne
>>339375056
Planescape does it
>Higher difficulties just boost enemy stats
>>339374998
999?
>>339374790
Trigglypuff
Google it
>>339371658
>Fallout 1
It's a little more complicated than that as you find information the Master didn't know about IIRC.
>finally find the character that is very important to the backstory on why everything is happening
>literally tells you there is no time to explain
>promptly dies five minutes later
>>339375372
Frost DK artifact is made from broken Frostmourne
>>339368564
Hit Chances. I love watching 2 guys miss their 50% shots then get fucked up by enemies whose hit chances were 17% and 13%
>>339375417
I still don't understand why people find harder difficulties fun if they just do that
>In the first game you can just walk around an enemy and stab him in the back when he swings
>In the second game he will never break eye contact with you
>In the third you can try and circle around him but he will just punch you in the face
>>339368564
Snipers and ninjas
That is all
>>339375328
>>339375458
>Google it
got the name from the first dude and reading about it now. just needed the name. ty
why is everyone so irrational?
>>339371393
>>339371393
>Get to the big final boss
>100% commited to his grand plan
>years in the making
>his life goal to do this
>speech check to bring up some massive flaw in his plan
>stab him while he's thinking about it
literally never, but it'd be cool
>>339371364
>>339369229
>>339373573
>giant monster is destroying the world
>defeat the monster
>humanity is still fucked because the monster destroyed most of society, but at least they can pick up the pieces and rebuild
Has any game ever done this?
>>339370171
>I don't keep it loaded son
>>339368564
>in the story the protagonist guns down every mook he sees without remorse
>in a cutscene he's hesitant to kill some nobody he just met
why
>crit damage isn't 2*damage
>>339375785
ff6?
>Have to do swings and wait for animations to end and shit
>Enemy just walks into character and deals immense amounts of damage in less than 2 seconds
>>339370063
>character dies in a cutscene
>keep finding their gear throughout the game
>they only return in the optional superdungeon at the same level
Other one
>vest friend/rival character that comes and goes in the story
>get to a point
>shop sells his weapon type (dual swords)
>no-one can equip them
What the fuck star ocean 4, that was the weirdest fucking cock teese that you could get crowe as a playable character, I thought there was miss-able characters like SO4
>Russians are the bad guys for the 30 millionth time.
>>339375528
>I love watching 2 guys miss their 50% shots then get fucked up by enemies whose hit chances were 17% and 13%
>>339375589
Rationality is just a way to dismiss and oppress women
everdayfeminism.com told me so
>>339375534
If bosses and enemies are dying too quickly on lower difficulties I would say that it's better to increase the difficulty level, especially if the game is too easy.
