Name a better third person shooter.
Uncharted 4
MAX and MAX 2
>>339292394
I can't
Vanquish a shit.
It's short as fuck and puts style over substance. Rocket-knee skating around in slow-mo gets boring after an hour, which is approximately 1/4 of the game's length.
Resident Evil 6 was pretty good.
>>339292771
Still worse than Vanquish.
>>339292502
is not even better than 2 and 2 is not better than Gears 3
>>339292394
Kid Icarus: Uprising.
![jet-force-gemini-cover[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XLkNVOK.jpg "jet-force-gemini-cover[1].jpg")
>>339292394
>>339292783
>RE6 is bad meme
Wow man, too fast for you? Not enough tank controls to apease your le retro gaming credentials?
It's funny how a game so simple in concept is so hilariously misunderstood.
>>339292710
>short as fuck
>style over substance
Case in point.
>>339292964
>you just don't understand it :^)
Seems like he understands it pretty well to me. There's no excuse for bad gameplay.
>>339292964
This, Vanquish is basically a shoot 'em up in third person form.
>>339292786
I'm with this guy, gears of war 3 is the best tps made so far, the story in 2 was slightly better but the gameplay in 3 is perfect
>>339293136 (You)
>bad gameplay
(You)
>>339292394
Gears of War 1-3
>>339293136
>bad gameplay
See? You don't understand it, either.
>>339292394
>Name a better third person shooter.
Any Max Payne game
Splinter Cell : Blacklist
MGSV is the best tps
>>339292520
>>339292394
I second this, Vanquish is one of Platniums best games
I'm honestly struggling. Structuring the campaign around ease of replay and score allowed the game to avoid the pitfalls of virtually every other cover shooter. You can't sit behind a wall and wait for an enemy to pop out without being penalized, and the tactic flat out doesn't work on Hard.
We need more developers who aren't afraid to impose a playstyle on the audience.
>>339294094
>the tactic flat out doesn't work on Hard.
Wich makes God Hard all the more ironic, since you're actually encouraged to stay behind cover
Dead Space
Vanquish is great, but it's very repetitive, ugly to look at, and has a boring arsenal
Max Payne 3
>>339292394
PC PORT WHEN
VANQUISH 2 WHEN
>>339292945
?
He never called it bad.
Binary Domain.
>Shoot one leg off.
>Robots start crawling to you, attacking you.
>Holla if you're dead
>Your aim was magnifique monsieur
>>339292945
I think he was saying it's just not as good as Vanquish (which is an okay opinion) anon, calm down. I enjoy RE6 too.
>>339294362
>there will never be a sequel
>>339292394
007 Everything or Nothing
literally the best TPS ever made
Fight me faggots
>>339294440
>Game flopped bad so they stuck with Yakuza.
>>339294521
I lied
I can't believe I forgot Jon Woo's Stranglehold
I am ashamed
Gears of war.
>>339292945
It touch your insecurity because even you know its a mediocre game
>>339294537
The Sega Platinum deal didn't work out well for Sega at all.
And if they had had more sales then maybe Platinum wouldn't have had to get in bed with Activision.
>>339294662
Platinum did not make Binary Domain. The Yakuza team made Binary Domain.
>>339294794
Oh sorry thought we were on about Vanquish.
I'll try to be less retarded next time.
Does Wild Guns count as a TPS? Because it's still one of the best games ever made.
>>339292394
I LITERALLY can't
>>339292394
Mechanically, it is above average, the level design is below average, the enemy design is above average, the characters are average to above average, and the plot is complete garbage. However, the controls are the best of any game in the genre, and that makes a big fucking difference. The game was a blast to play, and I really wish we could have gotten a Vanquish 2. I feel it would have been a big improvement over the first. RIP Mikami, I hope you enjoy your retirement.
>>339295198
It's mechanically perfect though.
Yes even the melee system which was misunderstood by many
Some levels were crazy too
And yes it probably has the absolute best TPS controls ever, the aiming in particular is absolute magic.
I can name 3
>>339295432
>Xbox kiddies
>>339295432
>tfw ex Dead Space 1&2 devs are working on creature design in Gears of War 4.
>>339295432
Can people stop with this shit?
Resi 4 and Dead Space are NOT third person shooters.
>>339294940
no worries
>>339292394
All I remember is that I thought it was average, too short and the constant overheating got annoying.
>>339295609
>weebs
Gears 3 and Uncharted 4 are unrivaled. Best 3rd person shooters by FAR
>>339295396
>use melee once
>overly long animation that sucks up all your fuel and leaves you vulnerable
>>339295823
>the constant overheating got annoying
Learn to manage your boosts
>>339292394
Max Payne 3
>>339295823
Don't listen to these cuhrazyyyy-liking jap dick-sucking faggots. Vanquish is a mediocre 65-metacritic game. It's nowhere near the best tps.
Warframe
>>339295756
Yes they are.
>>339295198
>>339295396
>It's mechanically perfect though.
Seriously, what the hell was he on about?
Level design, too; the game is so fun because the levels neither didn't interfere with Platinum's cuh-ray-zee combat nor encouraged camping a la Gears.
>>339295880
>Gears 3 and Uncharted 4 are unrivaled
You don't have to be a weeb to dislike turgid, campy gameplay or cinematic story bullshit.
>>339295973
>Learn to manage your boosts
It was used for everything, boost, slow-mo and melee.
It honestly made me not want to use it, which is pretty stupid.
It seriously didn't feel like you were wearing a super suit at all.
>>339296017
>only complaint is metacritic
Play the actual game
>>339294215
God Hard was a gimmick difficulty, like the frame skip mod in S&P.
Quantum break
Vanquish has great gameplay, but I would argue the feeling of actually shooting a gun in it isn't that great.
Max Payne 3 is better imo.
>>339296084
They're STILL survival horror games. You can't move normally in them and they emphasize health conservation and tank aiming. They still fall under the umbrella of survival horror.
Now resi 6 on the other hand IS an action game. There you're doing backflips, sliding, somersaulting, and a whole sweep of crazy shit that emphasizes speed and just action.
Max Payne 3
Say what you will about the story/setting but the shooting was god tier
Gears of war.
Yeah, fuck you ./v/ vanquish is a decent game but it can't compare to gears.
>>339296242
>It seriously didn't feel like you were wearing a super suit at all.
Because Vanquish wasn't yet another modern video game power fantasy, it was a game that had to be learned and mastered. If you want to boost more, you have togit gud.
>>339296330
They are also 3rd person shooters.
Gears of war 3. This is objective fact.
>>339292879
Get this overrated garbage out of here fucking horrible controls I just thought it was the n64's retarded controller but no they couldn't even fix them in rare replay with the Xbox one's controller it still played like shit
>>339292394
thats the best. nothing can compare to it.
>>339292786
I don't think enough people have played Gears to understand this.
>>339296258
I did play the game. The level design is just going around a fucking hamster wheel and there are qte's out the ass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdesaE1DzgE
Gears on the other hand is about strategic ground control and positioning.
With Uncharted, it's about using dodging and platforming to get an advantage over the opponent.
>>339294627
You mean Asian Max Payne
>>339296461
>Because Vanquish wasn't yet another modern video game power fantasy, it was a game that had to be learned and mastered.
The entire point of the game and in terms of the story was that you wore asuper suit, yet never felt like it.
> If you want to boost more, you have to git gud.
Nothing to do with skill, because the game wasn't even difficult. The more you used the "super" functions the more it will overheat (in other words, constantly) which got annoying real fast which means you used these "super" functions less.
Punishing you for using the more fun stuff in a game is one of the dumbest things you can do in terms of game design.
It's like in BoF5 where you punished you for turning into a "dragon".
>when Japan does qtes its OK
Fucking pathetic
>>339295756
The camera perspective is in third person and you shoot so yes they are third person shooters
>>339296780
This.
Bayonetta's ok but God of War is shit even though bayonetta is a buttonmasher in the truest sense. With God of War, you have to be picky and strategic with your combos.
>>339296752
>The entire point of the game and in terms of the story
>the story
>story
This is how I know you started gaming in the 7th gen.
>which means you used these "super" functions less.
And you got a terrible score as a result. Or didn't progress at all if you were on Hard (which it sounds like you should have been, since it was allegedly too easy on Normal).
The game wasn't punishing you, it was forcing you to balance. You simply played on the wrong difficulty or disregarded an entire aspect of the design.
I disliked Vanquish. There was a distinct lack of guns and gun variety, and the three gun system was super limiting. I hated picking up some kickass gun like that EMP cannon that juggled large mechs or the homing laser thing because they were fire-it-and-forget-it weapons with ammo that was impossible to find. I also wish that melee wasn't linked to your overheat system, and that enemy variety wasn't just robot, tougher robot, mech, tougher mech, enemy that can one-shot you, and fast enemy.
The game had a lot of potential but I give it a solid 6/10, nothing more nothing less.
Also it had one of the most infuriatingly difficult final bosses ever.
>>339296330
I'm playing RE6 on Professional right now and it's way more nuanced than people give it credit for.
Sure it is an action game, but you actually have to manage your ammo use and health quite carefully. Ammo is limited but so is inventory space, the way the game encourages smart use of resources while at the same time discouraging item hoarding is really quite good. Reminds me a lot of DOOM in some ways.
>>339297081
>The game wasn't punishing you, it was forcing you to balance. You simply played on the wrong difficulty or disregarded an entire aspect of the design.
If you need to fiddle with difficulty settings to make your game enjoyable, your game is shit.
>hurr durr he didn't play the mode where the enemies have more health and the player has less health
All this ever equates to in these shitty third person shooters is hiding in cover for longer so your health can regenerate. Fuck off you stupid casual faggot.
I can't believe neo-/v/ has gotten so bad it's not only defending artificial difficulty, but now saying it's necessary to play games on the highest levels of tedious artificial difficulty before you can critique them.
>>339296780
Not all QTE's are equal. Just like the response to this game, it baffles me how people can't see the difference between timed supplementary actions to keep you on your toes and the "replace boss fight with button mashing" of truly bad games.
>>339297335
>it baffles me how people can't see the difference between timed supplementary actions to keep you on your toes
It's fucing buttonmashing and swirling the stick in Vanquish, kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdVThYnVrpY
>>339297335
Did you even play vanquish
>>339297543
RIP
mnc>overwatch>bb
Warframe absolutely DESTROYS vanquish.
>>339297543
Dude, that's a class-based shooter.
We're talking tps's
>>339297081
>This is how I know you started gaming in the 7th gen.
My first game was Trap Door on C64 Last Ninja 3.on C64. Maybe don't make stupid baseless assumptions when you're this bad at guessing.
Also the point I made was that the game built up that the suit Sam wore was a big deal because it was an experimental super suit, but it never even felt like it.
I felt more super powered in Dead Space and Isaac is supposed to be wearing an Engineer suit.
>And you got a terrible score as a result.
I have never cared about score unless it unlocked bonus features, served as upgrade points (like in DMC) or whatever.
>The game wasn't punishing you, it was forcing you to balance.
When a game only annoys me because of the constant overheat when I dash, use slow-mo or melee (the only even remotely super functions it had) I just use it less because hearing that constant beeping wasn't exactly music to my ears.
No, it was poor game design.
>>339297275
>If you need to fiddle with difficulty settings to make your game enjoyable, your game is shit.
No, it means that the game is actually well balanced and *doesn't* just adds more health to enemies and less health to the player. Another way I can tell you're new is showing.
>All this ever equates to in these shitty third person shooters is hiding in cover for longer so your health can regenerate
Except again, this is not a valid tactic.
>Battleborn > Overwatch > Paladins > Paragon > Smite
You can't prove me wrong.
>>339296707
Asian max pain is best max pain
Like with MGR, Vanquish was more style over substance.
>>339294362
My fucking man.
>>339292394
>>339298195
mah nigga
>>339292394
I hate cuhrazzzyyyyyyyyy faggots.
>>339297838
>Also the point I made was that the game built up that the suit Sam wore was a big deal because it was an experimental super suit, but it never even felt like it.
And my point was that it doesn't matter what you "feel" like you're doing. It's a video game; aesthetic and "immersion" are non-issues, it's about the mechanics, and how the game requires their utilization in whatever way (on Normal, score, on Hard, survival).
Ignoring score in score-based games and predilections for "immersion" are faults of the audience (usually associated with more modern ones), not the design. You get annoyed because you wanted to feel like a badass instead of learning how to be one.
>>339294658
This anon right here tho.
>>339292394
>>339298453
>And my point was that it doesn't matter what you "feel" like you're doing. It's a video game; aesthetic and "immersion" are non-issues, it's about the mechanics, and how the game requires their utilization in whatever way (on Normal, score, on Hard, survival).
Yes and the mechanics for the super suit (you know, the only unique aspect of the game) was poorly implemented.
Now Vanquish is probably one of your favorite games and you don't like people "bashing" it, but you will not convince anyone when you're this biased. People will just ignore you, like what I'm doing now.
>>339294362
Shooting robots in this game was a lot more satisfying then in Vanquish
>>339299071
>biased
Lel. The real reason this conversation is going nowhere is because you say meaningless shit like "implemented poorly" instead of actually explaining why that's the case.
Vanquish wasn't even the best Platinum game from the last generation. But you seem to need to make yourself feel better about lacking any well founded argument than actually contributing to a discussion, so maybe it is best we nip this in the bud.
>>339296330
>focuses on action
>gives you ammo out the wazoo
>provides you with tons of melee moves
RE4 is an action game through and through with some horror elements. Never played Dead Space so can't comment on that but it looked way scarier than an RE game.
>>339292394
Vanquish is painfully average.
>>339292786
gears 3 really is the best tps ever made.
>>339299257
This
>>339292394
I can't
>>339299956
Never played Gears (wanted too but no Xbox. I enjoy cover shooters) what makes it so good?
>>339295396
>Yes even the melee system which was misunderstood by many
Nah, melee was the one bad thing, there's basically no reason to use it unless it's the last enemy. Should have used half your bar, not all of it.
>>339296017
>metacritic
Lol
>>339296752
>The more you used the "super" functions
Learn to boost dodge
>>339294362
>every bullet leaves giant amount of debris flying everywhere
>that satisfaction from using shotgun
>rolling around
>big b(r)o
Criminally large amounts of fun>you're from MI6, like James Bond>Who?
>>339300858
Nothing particularly special, it's just very gory and has a """unique""" reload mechanic.
>>339299605
DUDE, you move like a tank still. It's a survival horror game. Compare resi 4 to max payne or gta or something. See??
>>339301174
>Nothing particularly special
Shut the fuck up.
/v/ is the only fucking place in the world to say fucking Binary Domain is better than Gears of War or Uncharted. I swear, you faggots have your heads up Japan's ass so goddamn much.
>>339301985
The definition of casual.
>>339302072
>argumentum ad populum
>on fucking /v/, of all places
Why are you even here?
>>339301985
Daily reminder of what could have been if bf3 was not canned
>>339302072
Binary Domain IS better than both. I very much like Uncharted 2 for being a good mix of a movie/game rollercoaster ride through great setpieces, but Binary Domain blows it out of the water with gameplay alone. It's also about shooting robots, that's a lot better than shooting half the male russian population
>>339301985
this tbqh
>>339292945
Re6 fans insecure as fuck. Kys
>>339302360
How is it better than both?
>The gameplay is sound at its core, but suspect AI, plodding boss fights, and a heavy-handed plot all stand out as flaws that should have been eliminated before mass production. As is, this interesting prototype could be worth examining--just don't expect it to attain peak performance.
>It's definitely a mediocre game. It plays it safe in every way possible. It's only feature of note is its voice recognition system, but everything else feels like it came straight out of a How to Make a Cover-Based Shooter for Dummies book or something. It's not bad; it's just generic. It's a "me too" game that tries to sell you on ideas that could be awesome but aren't fleshed out all that well.
>>339298878
>fight the same 3 enemies over and over again
i wanted to like it but i just cant
>>339295756
>give me yous please
>>339303007
So Resident Evil 2 is a 3rd person shooter?
>>339294362
The shooting was satisfying as fuck since it left amazing impression when you shoot robots into tiny little pieces but the gameplay itself was really generic cover based stuff.
Still a fun as fuck game. Cain best buddy.
>>339300858
Nothing really. The level design is decent, the enemy design is generally meh with some good boss fights, the weapon design is alright, gameplay overall is repetitive and simplistic and stays the same for all the games without hardly any improvements, art design is pretty at first but it's exactly the same for the entire series and gets boring after 20 minutes and story and characters are retardedly stupid and as generic american war story cliche as it gets. And I'm talking about all three games.
But it looks cool and plays decent.And has all the millions in marketing to make the game seem better than it actually is
If we're talking about standard TPS, Binary Domain is miles better at everything.
>>339303484
>completely ignoring the amazing story
Maximus kek, gameplay fags are the worst
>>339301129"Ni haoooo"
>>339305137
>Gears of fucking War
>amazing story
This bait would've been better if he was talking about Uncharted. But "gameplay fags" still makes it too obvious.
I think I'm the only one that enjoys this
