What are some games where I can use the best and most elegant weapon ever made?
Dark souls of course
Estoc is bestoc
Nothing. When they appear in video games at all, it's usually as a cosmetic option in the regular sword category, complete with slashing animations.
>>339273784
I can't think of any other game that does this best.
I've always loved raipers and such and DaS is hands down my favorite game that caters to that.
>>339273664
uncharted 4
Were rapiers and the like ever really used in warfare, or were they just dueling weapons? I guess the estoc-types were actually designed against armor, or something?
rapiers are shit in video games, except maybe Soul Caliber. DaS3 was kind of fun I guess but even so no game can actually accurately portray a true master of fencing.
Warframe.
>>339273846
>I don't know what I'm talking about: the post
How about you go back to playing Skyrim, kiddo.
>>339274025
it was just a dueling thing
>>339273664
When ever they're done properly like dark souls they end up being the gayest weapons in the game. I don't think I've ever seen a game with cool rapiers. Soul Cal is another example of this.
>>339273664
Bloodborne has the best rapier. It comes also with a gun attached and the coolest name.
>>339274359
Reiterpallasch is my BB weaponfu
>>339274025
Estocs and and savers were popular as backup weapons during the like and shot era. Frech musketeers for example.
>>339273664
Path of Exile
Battleborn.
>>339274359
How is it that Fromsoft can do so well with the weapons in Bloodborne in terms of design and feel, then go to DaS3 and go right back to making rapiers absolute shit, with the sole exception of the estoc. I want something with a swept hilt and long reach, not that same shitty fucking smallsword rapier that's in every fucking Souls game. They came so close with the Crystal Sage Rapier, but it's got shit scaling and wastes its potential on piddly magic damage and a fucking item discovery buff. It's a gimmick weapon to be used offhand for farming, that's it.
>>339273664
Risen 2 and 3
these are meh games though
>>339273664
The standard rapier in Dark Souls II is literally OP.
Ricard's Rapier with a lot of buffs has the highest dps in Dark Souls.
>>339274047
>except maybe Soul Caliber
Mah nigga
Give Blade Symphony a try, It's unbalanced and shit so get it on sale but when you agree with someone to do foil/epee only on a piste it's pretty great
Blade Symphony had a nice rapier wielding guy.
It was really well done. Sadly the game didn't garner much of an audience because of various issues.
Mount & Blade Warband.
Rapiers are bullshit that only became popular because "muh civilization" when spears and halberds are a definite level of more effective combat.
>>339275832
>mfw playing phalanx with a longsword
>>339276068
>>339275832
never heard of blade symphony but damn that Phalanx design is swanky af, i like it
>>339273664
Assassins Creed 2 had em i think.
>>339276201
their are rapiers in warband? Where?
>>339277129
there*
>I dun goofed
>>339276201
That's arguable. Rapiers have better hand protection, have nibler points, can be used with one hand comfortably. Spears are less nible and give no hand protection and it's not as comfortable to use with a shield or buckler.
Also rapiers cut better.
>>339277129
Fire and Sword has them but uh...Fire and Sword sucks, I guess. I really like it but other people give it shit for some reason. It has winged hussars from the Polish kingdom and the Kingdom of Sweden and a bunch of other shit that's really cool.
>>339277668
I admit, the rapier was the final western development of the sword. It's just that most people only used a sword in combat when all their other options ran out. Lances were usually used. Swords were your last resort when you were unhorsed.
Pirates!
>>339274047
Why do they absolutely refuse to do anything with their left hand?
>>339279165
What are you implying about these gentlemen you honorless peasant?
>>339277668
Good luck getting close enough to someone using a spear with a rapier.
If you have two fighters of equal skill the one with the spear will beat the one with the rapier almost every time.
>>339279416
Well, there's a technical way to get past a spear with a sword. I mean, there are technical manuals dating back centuries that tell you how, from the people that actually did it.
It wasn't simply hypothesis back then. They wrote their story because they lived to write it.
>>339279251
Did they agree to not use their offhand before the fight?
>>339279638
With a rapier though? I've seen german longsword diagrams like that, but never anything with a rapier.
>>339279923
It became irrelevant by that point. I'm not arguing the validity of the rapier. It was the full development of the weapon when religious wars became a thing of the past in Europe. Then there was dueling over very dumb things when it could have been settled without single combat.
>>339279746
You can't two hand an Épée and since they don't have anything to do with their left hand it would just get in the way.
Fist on waist stops retarded flailing on the arms, doesn't hinder the leg movement in anyway, and takes up the least space.
>>339274025
Spanish tercios used rapiers during battles (XVII century aprox), aswell as pikes and other weapons
>>339274025
>Were rapiers and the like ever really used in warfare
Yes.
Between the 16th and 17th century, rapiers saw battlefield usage. It should be considered that these were side-arms though. Primary weapons would be pikes, lances, wheel-lock pistols, arquebuses, etc.
>>339273664
That's no Zweihander.
>>339278870
>the rapier was the final western development of the sword
Not really.
Various sabre- and backsword type weapons were developed after the rapier. Smallswords, spadroons, etc. came after the rapier. Just to name some examples. Not to mention academic fencing weapons like Schlaegers, and of course the modern sports fencing weapons.
>>339280256
It was during the colonial period for the most part.
The Spanish were savage fucks, no jokes. The world though, would not be what it is today without them.
>>339273664
Sid Meiers Pirates!
It's a solid game, there was never a reason not to pick the rapier. Offense seemed like the best defense.
>>339273664
Path of exile
>>339280403
A better way to make a knife, but thanks for the technical knowledge.
>>339273664
>the best and most elegant weapon ever made
Pic unrelated, then?
That's not a katana
>>339274025
they were civilian weapon and they actually started to ban swordfights on the streets because they were losing ablebodied officers and soldiers more on the drunken brawls on leaves than in actual wars because of it
>>339273664
That's not a katana
In b4 butt hurt gaijins
>>339280572
Don't start that argument.
I've been down that rabbit hole and I don't want another trip.
>>339280572
>>339280642
inb4 le hilarious british man youtube vid
>>339278709
F&S is an underrated game. Fortunately, the Multiplayer has good bot options
>>339279165
In Verdadera Destreza there's a technique called "Atajo". It is performed with both hand. You basically get the oponent's rapier.
https://youtu.be/XrVzDs_Zbb4
>>339280167
There were several points where one of them could have easily grabbed the weapon of the other and disarmed them, gouged their eyes, punched them in the throat, etc.
>>339280572
He said weapon, not peasant cutter.
You can hope for him to be in Dissidia I guess
>>339277109
Yep, but in a very unrealistic way. No too much thrusts.
>>339274079
>Warframe.
lol nice joke.
>>339280879
What people don't seem to understand is that western sword-fighitng is, and was far more developed than anything that people thought-up in Asia.
We adopted the firearm so quickly that everyone forgot about it voluntarily. There's a certain beauty in western swordsmanship. A student of history knows this.
>>339280981
You mean the points where they're bantering? You're wondering why they're not grappling with each other during the witty dialogue?
>>339281318
It's appreciated also in HEMA associations
>>339281896
Well, I love martial arts. Even older and more traditional ones.
I read old combat manuals that detail the experience of people who survived to tell their story. We don't use swords anymore, but that's doesn't mean we should throw away the texts of those that did.
>>339281157
>Nomura's wet dream
no thanks
>>339282234
That was Kitase
Nomura just designed him, and the design is pretty cool
Kitase wanted the Gackt publicity
Gackt actually liked the game as well, he's actually a FF fan
>>339280572
>Ctrl+F
>Katana
Sasuga,Faggot
>>339280572
>disc guard
>as short as my dick even though it's a two-handed weapon
>garbage against armor, doesn't even have a pommel
Fucking weebs...
>
>>339274025
"Yes", but in the same capacity as the katana. They were first and foremost civilian; it just so happened that some people took them with them to war and carried them in addition to their regular weapons (usually regional variants of "pole weapon" and "ranged weapon")
pirates of the caribbean on xbawks
>>339282754
The Katana was a heavily refined weapon. Yet, even the Samurai didn't usually use them. Their focus was actually on the bow-and-arrow. We put the emphasis on their sword. Then the media ran with it.
The samurai were actually outstanding marksman. Not swordsman like everyone thinks.
>>339282979
no discovery channel tier japanese history shit please.
>>339282979
I'm aware of all this. Most wars were fought withh naginata's, yari's and bows. Katana was a symbol of prestige.
I don't know what you mean by "heavily refined" though. Are you talking about folding the metal to get a more homogenous steel?
>>339283130
No Australia tier shitpostling.
Please.
>>339282979
Japanese steel was rubbish though
>>339283161
It was refined because they didn't have very pure iron. The folding method was used because they couldn't refine steel as well, and worse; their source of iron was subject to a lot of impurities.
>>339283378
Why the fuck are you telling me this? I never claimed otherwise, I know all this.
>>339283486
Why do you think I'm speaking to you personally?
I know, that you know but sometimes it's just about making other people shut up. I'm not trying to patronize you.
>>339283642
>Why do you think I'm speaking to you personally?
I mean, you did respond to me personally.
>>339274047
what movie?
>>339283745
I thought this thread could be about more than a bit of verbal combat.
>>339283861
Alright, anon. How's your day been?
good thread guys, we managed to list, what, 4 games? before it devolved into weeb/anitweeb shitflinging. gj
>>339279165
I believe they keep it at their hip for safety reasons. It'd be a target if they flung it around in combat.
>>339283920
Pretty garbage actually.
I severed a vein next to my patella and I'm only fucking around here because I can't walk very well. I hate not being mobile.
>>339284107
I'm sorry anon, hope you get well soon.
>>339284027
Also, for some at the time it kept your back straight. Your face would be an easier target if your back started sludging forward like a degenerate.
>>339280879
>Posting spic shit
>>339280443
The spanish are good at 2 things.
Rape and stabbing shit. Which is why they're bad at battle of nations, you can't stab and you cannot rape.
>>339285515
Then I just offended myself
>>339273664
Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide
You also get a pistol in your offhand.
>>339273664
Victor Vran. Rapier is one of the weapons and it has a it's own set of animations and skills. You can also use a Scythe in that game.
>>339273664
Nidhogg
>>339273664
Those are some odd looking spears
>>339286973
Using scythes, ever.
>>339280490
It was the fastest so you could keep stabbing pirates before they could even land a hit on you.
>>339280490
>Sid Meier's Pirates!
Been saving this game on my backlog for some time now. Is this THE pirate game to play? I've been itching for some swashbuckling.
>>339288668
Yes it's the best and only good pirate game
>>339289110
Until sea of thieves
>>339287298
It's nice to have the option and Scythes are great for crowd control in that game while Rapiers are great for single targets.
Anyway: why not use the common man weapon? Are you some pussy noble who can't handle peasants?
>>339273664
any Castlevania games by Iga
>>339273664
Bushido Blade lets you use rapiers against japs and their inferior steel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbxmcYkmmn0
>>339289110
No...
This game is.
>>339273664
And this game has rapiers OP, but like almost every game that includes them they suffer from slashfag animation for them.
>>339289374
I don't know about that particular game but scythes in general are edgelord tier weapons.
And if you're implying that the scythes that the "common man" used as a tool are viable weapons you're terribly wrong anon.I ain't no pussy noble, I just tap that noble pussy.
>>339290230
NOPE
Assasins Creed is a horrible series. It was just new at the start and people lung to it to escape mountains of shit. The fuck out of my face.
Mount and Blade: Napoleonic Wars.
>>339290569
Rather, "clung."
I don't recommend that series to anyone but people I don't like, where I want them to waste their money.
Which is to say, nobody I still talk to.
>>339290569
You clearly haven't played the game and is simply spouting "LEL ASS CREED GAY!" like a 12 year old.
This game is literally the best in the series, and in fact a pretty decent pirating game besides the Assassin and Templar crap involved in it.
>>339290724
>This game sucks!
>Let me recommend it to people so they give money to Ubishit. That'll show them!
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>339290569
>>339290896
In fact, the "get outta my face" clearly shows your age quite clearly, you teenie.
>>339273664
Castlevanias starting from SoTN
In fact, SOTN even had somewhat appropriate feedback from estoc
pretty weird they went for it in a pixel 2D games but super-neat
>>339280981
That would be fucking rude. Are you kidding me?
Even up until the american revolution soldiers would typically avoid shooting officers, at least on purpose. Likewise resorting to dirty tricks in a sword fight is a good way to sully your honor.
>>339290230
>suffer from slashfag animation for them
?
>>339290698
that's a sabre
>>339290896
No, I have and I don't like it. Games should operate as if you're walking with your own body. ASC does not, do that.
I mean, if you're in a wheelchair then I can understand why this shit makes sense. Otherwise it's not fluid, and it's not good.
>muh freerunning
You don't have to run up a building to be subtle. Infact that's the opposite of it.
>>339274047
estoc vs estoc in a nutshell
