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>>339270656
no reason to since you can spam R1 and out DPS almost anything other than another dark sword
The classic.
Ah the pure benefit of creating my own character without reading anything online about the game.
I was able to plow through the game with my own weapons not giving a shit about meta. Still rekking invaders and pvping regularly, it isn't until now where the game is watering down. I've been watching pvp videos and reading these threads.
Either way, lightning maracas and exile greatsword yeaaaaa.
>>339270656
How can I replace you if I never use you.
I like to use the Wolf Knight Greatsword, but I'm currently in full Silver Knight gear.
>>339270656
My r1 spam are harder to parry now
>>339270656
>replaced
>implying I ever used it
straight swords are boring as shit
>>339270656
I really like Kirks straight sword.
Better than the dark sword agaisnt about half the stuff in the game. a little worse against the other stuff.
Uses less stamina per swing.
>>339271556
Both of those weapons are secretly top tier. I'd say they're even better than Dark Sword.
who M U R A K A M O here?
>>339270656
I never used it
Greataxe for life, nigga
>>339270656
2kat and warden twinblades are really fun, and bleed is strong as fuck
>>339272038
my nigga
>>339270656
>genuinely likes the weapon
>is a meme so people hate me for it
oh well
>people are still on their melee characters fucking around with the stupid, shitty melee weapons
why???
>>339272742
pure casting is boring as fuck. hybrid pyro/melee masterrace
Swapped out the Executioner's Sword for this but I haven't gotten a slab yet to +10 it.
The stomp always catches r1 spam and it deals a nice bit of damage as +9.
Still the best in every game.
I miss Dragon Bone Smasher
Fume UGS just isn't the same
>That running sweep move that knocks people on their ass
>Using it in Tower of Latria 3-2 smacking people off the ledges
>Cursed DBS can one-shot anyone without a vitality build
>>339271327
Literally this, not only is its r1 break anyone's poise instantly and it's range is OP. But the weapon art Into heavy attack stun locks you and can't be parried plus hits multiple enemies.
>>339270656
I've found a new love for twinblades, buffing either sellswords or grave wardens with carthus rouge is decent. Tried gotthards, didn't really do it for me. Currently running an INT/DEX build, gonna try out the moon shotel thing and MLGS.
>>339273856
crescent moon sword has no int scaling and is pretty shitty, don't upgrade it, the L2 has no tracking and is super slow
MLGS is good now but don't expect to ever hit with the charged r2s
I've got my sellsword twinblades and exile's greatsword +10, and am gonna upgrade my black knight halberd next. What are some other fun weapons to use my last few slabs on before I start NG+?
>>339273052
I really like the executioner's sword but not being able to buff it really fucks it over; its damage isn't really worth it by itself and you can't even infuse it to be heavy. The special ability is also completely worthless even in PvE.
>>339270656
These bad boys.
I've ascended from regular shitter to advanced shitter
>>339275286
You can buff it, you just can't infuse it.
I never used the Dork Sword
I only use the deadliest of maracas
>>339275659
Oh you can buff it?
Hmm, I might reconsider a build around it then. Thanks m8.
>>339271716
That flipping attack is so fun to use.
>>339275659
>can't infuse it
Why!? Did Fromsoft think we were gonna be cheesing with infinite FP by using a Simple Executioner's GS?
>>339275943
I think its because it's strike damage. Why the fuck that bothered them is beyond me, though.
From's biggest mistake was actually caring about PvP balance. If they just made fun weapons it wouldn't matter.
>>339276634
>I think its because it's strike damage
But that didn't sstop them from making Cathedral GS and other nonsense. Pretty sure you can infuse your mace or morning star or great club if you want
>>339276634
No, that's because of the FP regen effect. No weapons with special effects can be infused.
>implying I ever used that shit
>implying I didn't slay giants and dragons with the glorious peasants weapon of choice
Hollowslayer Greatsword. Anyone know if it does more damage in PvP if the other player is Hollow?
>>339277097
No. It's only non-player hollows.
>>339277038
I'm using that on my cosplay build, it's fun to use.
The classic.
shotels
but they kinda suck and i have no idea how to make them stronger
>>339277838
Shotels currently have no shield piercing capabilities, you're honestly better off using a different weapon
If shields are what give you issues, make a bleed weapon, like a rapier in your offhand if you can. bleed stacks the same through shields and partial rolls
>>339277038
Good taste battle brother
>>339277372
Ah bummer. Moveset is great though.
>>339276634
For anyone not a shitter a semblance of balance makes PvP more enjoyable. The issue is not that balance is bad but that FROM can't balance for shit.
>>339276895
That's such a retarded rule. Really a step back from DaS2. Yes, it did a lot of things poorly, but the freedom to infuse fucking everything was really good, as was the weapon variety.
I really wish they just stuck with the DaS2 mentality of
>Fuck it, you can infuse everything
Also sucks that you can't use buffs of any kind of any of the boss weapons.
>>339270656
Only took me 3 hours of fighting the boss to get...
>>339278482
I'm still salty that they removed powerstancing. That was the thing DS2 did right. Fist weapons weren't just a joke with that.
>>339278669
>only a few fist weapons in DaS3
>they're all shit
It's awful. At least in DaS1 you could easily do caestus or dragon fist runs.
>>339278398
That's what I meant, I just worded it strangely. I meant that if they just focussed on making a shit laod of fun weapons, there'd be a load of actually viable weapons, but instead they tried to really ineffectively balance everything and left us with a bland and boring mess.
>>339278482
>>339278572
>>339278669
DaS2's weapon mechanics and balance and variety shit all over DaS1 in an extreme way.
When I'm thinking up a build/playthrough for a Souls game, I often check a wiki to look at a list of weapons so I can choose one that fits the theme/stats/build I've created. When I'm doing a DeS/DaS1/DaS3 character, I always find I'm limited to maybe 2-3 choices in total if I'm lucky. When it's DaS2? It's a fucking smorgasbord and the real issue simply becomes picking a weapon and sticking with it.Miyazaki's a fucking piece of shit when it comes to anything but lore/level design. Thank god Bloodborne is basically immune to these criticisms thanks to Trick Weapons. Truly the best Souls game.
>>339278669
They didn't exactly "remove" it. They just didn't re-implement it.
All of Dark Souls 3 is built on top of Dark Souls 1's code, which means that any systems present in Dark Souls 2 HAD to be re-written into DS3's code, instead of ported over.
Also, have an interesting interview on Tanimura's job during Dark Souls 3.
>>339278586
Is it any good?
>>339278669
Honestly, I thought powerstancing was kind of boring the way it was implemented in DaS2.
Most of the powerstances in 2 were just
>You can attack with two weapons AT THE SAME TIME
and there weren't too many interesting combinations of weapons. Sometimes you get stuff like the Majestic Greatsword and bonefist combined with other weapons, but not often enough.
Ideally we would have had something like DaS3's dual weapon movesets along with DaS2's powerstance idea, but that didn't happen.
>>339278847
Drang Maces, Twinspears, and Warden Twinblades were all pretty fun when I used them.
I wish you could get Gotthard's Twin Swords earlier than the end of the game, though
>>339278669
>He actually doesn't fucking know
>>339278669
Dawg, equip a fist weapon on your right hand and then "two-hand" it. Something tells me you'll be surprised and then realize how retarded you are.
>>339279414
That's not powerstancing you newfag piece of shit.
Is this your first souls game?
>>339279464
>changes your moveset
>gives you one fist weapon in each hand
>even has the quick punch punch combos on L1
Yeah, it's super different.
>>339279464
It's essentially the same thing, they just put two weapons into one instead of making you carry around two separate weapons
>>339270656
Hollow slayer greatsword
>>339279014
I made a fucking Samus build with 30int/30fai and a dark infused Sanctuary Crossbow on the right hand for the cannon, a whip on the left hand for the grapple beam and the alonne knight set for the shoulder pads,
AND IT FUCKING WORKED.I DESTROYED PEOPLE IN PVP WITH IT
But now comes the genius Mitsubishi-san and takes all the fucking fun away.
>Do you wan to make that fun weapon viabru? too bad I don't rike fun go fuck yourserfu
>>339279464
some weapons (twin + fist) have a unique moveset when you two hand them you retarded faggot
it's basically power stancing without the retarded stat requirements.
>>339279315
Do you know what powerstancing is?
You could powerstance ANY WEAPON if you had 1.5x its stat requirements.
my fists
Never used it since it looks fucking ugly
>>339279614
>some weapons
PRECISELY.
>>339277838
I wish they would have just given shotels a two hand moveset like the sellswords or warden twinblades. Would've made them a lot more viable IMO and would have made Lautrec cosplay *actually* something dangerous.
Str weapons seems to outclassed Dex by alot. So far, i have 25/50 str/dex. But, I'd like to know if its better to just dial down to 40/40?
>>339273657
>can't be parried
Are you sure? Pretty sure I've been parried using it before.
>>339279646
Dual wielding was primarily used for parrying anyways, which DkS1 did perfectly fine. Swinging two weapons at once would detract from force not contribute to it. Power stancing also led to infinite stun lock and was broken as fuck for a significant amount of time.
The popularity of dual wielding in fiction is a cancer and removing power stance was one of the few based things that Miyazaki has done in DkS3.
>>339279853
imo there's no reason to go above 40 dex but a few reasons to hit 50 str.
>>339279935
>removing power stance was one of the few based things that Miyazaki has done in DkS3.
Removing popular and useful features is a GOOD thing? Having less content is good?
>>339279882
The initial attack of almost all spin weapon arts cannot be parried.
Before more shitters move to spin weapons the R1->L2->R2 combo has been nerfed and no longer fully combos so the weapon spin is not primarily for mix-ups and punishing idiot parry fishers. Nothing OP about it now.
>>339279853
Quality > Pure STR/DEX
So yeah if your weapon has good scaling with STR/DEX you should go 40/40
There's also no reason to go past 40 DEX.
>>339280141
>dual wielding
>useful
hahahahaha
That L1->R2 infinite stunlock abomination should have never been a thing. I consider removing cancer a good thing.
>>339279935
>removing a feature that did nothing but add more variety is based just because i'm autistic
>>339279935
Yeah thank you Memezaki-san for taking options away from us such an unparalleled genius.
Go fuck yourself retard.
Is this THE PINNACLE of dark souls 3 PvP?
https://youtu.be/zhItsAKKGFU
>opponents get visibly agitated before they die
>parry attempts punished hard
>parrying useless unless perfect prediction
>perfect stamina management required to even make a dent
>impossible to keep up the pressure
There is LITERALLY NO CIUNTER. You should give up with what you're building, you're only going to embarrass yourself. You deserve the ridicule.
>>339280293
Or you're just saying that because its something Miyazaki did and nothing he does can be bad.
>>339280423
just fucking kick the shield
>>339280839
That only works if you equip the horse hoof ring
>>339280547
Nah, I can acknowledge that certain elements like Covenants were much better done in DkS2. It helps that the covenants in DkS3 are unimaginative and mechanically broken. (Blue Phantom covenant auto-summons especially).
However dual wielding is almost always a cancer in fiction. If I see anything that implies two weapons == Double attacks or double the powah it is an obvious appeal to the lowest common denominator. That it had notably broken mechanics and led to truly retarded weapon combos (Lance + Claymore? WTF? Two Ultra Greatswords? Fuck kyou immersion) cements it all the more.
>>339280839
>>339281045
Not even that does it.
>From in charge of balancing and turning poise off
I'm using the based Exile Greatsword of course. It's the closest that we have in this game to the Curved Dragon Greatsword, and that's my favorite weapon in the series.
>Curved Greatsword moveset
>Dragon sword blast special attack
>Scales B to STR and S to dex
How i miss it. Also, Curved Ultra Greatswords when From?
>>339280839
>>339281045
still doesn't work. the only thing you can do is weapon arts that go through shields, but you get fucked by the estoc spam after your animation anyway
>>339270656
Never got it
I farmed the fucks for hours but it won't drop, same shit with those black knights
Got my long sword +10 and its good enough
>>339281168
Don't worry. Everything is working as intendedI miss poise
>>339281112
Its a fucking fantasy video game, it's not meant to be realistic. And who gives a shit if it leads to overpowered mechanics, trying to balance everything for PvP will kill any fun there is to be found.
RIP combo
>>339280423
>Shields are useless
>Greatshields are OP
What a time to be alive.
>>339281112
Yeah fuck wielding two ultra greatswords that is the most inmersion-breaking shit ever so unrealistic, just wait a little while I cast this magic at this huge unrealistic being with my beef jerky man.
>>339281654
I find the tears of dual wielding faggots much more entertaining than getting infinite stunlocked by brainless L1->R1 loops.
>>339281112
>Having giant dragons, magic and other bullshit is fine
>Dual wielding greatswords breaks m-muh immersion!!!!
This is the cancer killing video games
>>339281710
what armor is that? I only recognize the dancer helmet
>>339281807
How about getting stunlocked by R1 spammers using estocs and straight swords and curved swords?
>>339270656
why would I use any weapon besides the best one?
>>339281710
did the nerf really fuck that up?
>>339281871
>I am shit at the game: The post
2 hit combos are not "stun-lock". Maybe if you actually played PvP you would know this. Kind of peculiar that the same people that scream POISE loudest also seem to think DkS3 longsword / estoc "stun lock" is anything but a myth.
>>339281956
yah. no longer has the 3hit combo hut the 2hitter still does shitloads.
>>339281871
Press parry after the second hit.
I can't believe how much better Dark Souls 3's PVP is compared to 1 and 2.
Taking out poise was probably the best move they could've made, being unstaggerable made PVP shallow and boring. Havoc shitters are heavily punished this time around, and I couldn't be happier for it.
>>339281710
the BKGA one-handed r1 is very easy to parry.
>>339281858
magic man venders coat and holy hammer mans legs.
>>339282170
Lag makes sure that isn't possible.
>>339282174
>Havoc
kek
I honestly haven't even seen anyone in full Havels. Without the poise the weight isn't even worth it.
>>339282314
>I'm not terrible at the game its lag!
Then roll you insufferable faggot.
>>339282174
DS2 barely had any poise either in PvP.
I'm glad they took most of the mechanics from DS2 and BB, to bad about power stance.
>>339282314
You're actually just shit. Lag is what makes most fucking parries possible.
>>339282348
Armor was only ever worthwhile for poise and fashion souls. I don't know how defense values work in any DS game but doesn't seem to do anything
>>339282514
It did a bit in Das1, not so much in DaS2 and its utterly useless in 3
>>339282314
That's why I said parry as soon as you see the second hit and not later, that way you'll parry as soon as you recover from the stagger, coinciding perfectly with the next hit, getting a parry regardless of lag.
>>339282174
I liked 2 more. If I'm remembering correctly poise only activated when you were doing some action like attacking which was only that helpful with big weapons.
>>339273657
>break anyone's poise instantly
>Poise
Did they finally turn it back on?
>>339282682
DkS3 hyper armor is very much a thing. Good hyper armor usage actually makes heavy weapons extremely viable in PvP. Anyone that thinks that heavy weapons suck in PvP because "MUH poise" is just revealing how shit they are at the game.
>>339270656
Twin Princes Greatsword with a Simple offhand Parry Dagger
UNLIMITED
LASER
THRUSTS
>>339271327
>this
Then found out it was op
Then switched to anri's sword
Then found out it was op
Then I just went back to ds1
>>339280935
How hard is it to go through the whole game with flashsword as your main weapon?
>>339278227
They DO pierce shields, Just not their battle art or normal attacks, You need to fully charge R2s, And IF they are stupid enough to block such a slow attack then the full damage goes trough.
carthus curved GS is pretty fun
even with a meme luck build, r1 combo does 1k
The executioner greatsword, followed by the man serpent hatchet and gargoyle flame hammer.
>>339283075
>>339282936
This
All those fuccbois that only counter attack and run around in circles instead of attacking in circles now have to dance around my fucking hyperweapon instant 20meter laserblast every 2 seconds until they actually grow a pair and try to put pressure on me
>>339283139
>These danged Unkindled and their fancy Dark Swords, spears, and scythes! And the magic! All I need is me pitchferk and the will ta fite!
>>339283459
Hmm, here's a question. How annoying would it be to get and wield a Twin Princes' sword on a level 20 Twink?
>>339283139
>estus ring
anon, I....
>>339283696
considering you have to beat the princes in NG+ It'd be pretty hard
>>339283696
>Put all the neccecary points to wield it
>Get astora straight and fully upgrade raw
>Blast trough game
>Blast trough newgame+ because astora is hilariously broken
>Enjoy twin prince sword
SL20 is out of the question since the sword requires 22STR and 14DEX, But it can be done.
>Implying you'll be able to do any pvp at all in new game+ SL30ish
>>339279690
How'd you make your Cestus do so much damage ?
Also had no idea the weapon art could make a weapon fucking chink off you like your made of stone..
>>339283803
>Not the fucking Hornet Ring
That's my complaint with his setup, a Peasant don't need no special gimmick shit like that.
>>339283865
>Mound Makers
Good choice.
>Ring of Favor
No.
>White Branch
Using them is a no go, but the thematic burial is a nice move.
>Warrior
You dun fucked up, Irishwoman.
>>339283803
Newgame+ pve stuff does big damage, Gimme a break
>>339284095
>30ish in NG+ PVP
You'll face people around that SL forever, irrelevant of what NG they are on.
>>339284095
you can get 22 and 14 easy with the milkring and knights ring
NG+ PvP matches with NG Players as well
>>339284116
buffs make any dual weapon do stupid high damage
unfortunately it only works against rapier and dagger 1hr1
>>339284215
>Not the fucking Hornet Ring
>That's my complaint with his setup, a Peasant don't need no special gimmick shit like that.
>Not enjoying the pure salt from parrying and doing solidK damage because they kept spamming R1
It's for punishing idiots i dont want to deal with, Otherwise its 2hand city.
>>339270656
I never used it in the first place
>>339284095
You can use the Twin Princes Greatsword at level 13 on a Knight starter class with two rings
>>339270656
Only weapons to worry about are the glaives, everything else has inferior range to this.
>>339284494
>PvP
>It's another darkmoon blade dual wield instakill combo build
>mfw Dual Charm
>>339284537
I agree, I'm just talking thematic, if you call it a theme build and Hornet isn't a PVP swap in, I'm kind of annoyed.
How is the Hornet animation with the Pitchfork anyway?
Absolute top tier
>That range
>Second r1 that hits behind you to punish backstabbing knaves
>Rolling attack
>Charged R2 that floors people
I've literally lost 2 matches out of the last 30 fight clubs. My crowning moment was demolishing 3 red phantoms and then pointing to the host, him accepting my challenge, and then promptly fucking him up in under 30 seconds even though he's seen all my moves.
>>339284641
Keep in mind you can never upgrade your weapons past +2 or +1 (for boss/twinkling weapons) if you want to do true low level pvp
>>339284307
I thought NG cycles had separate PVP matchmaking now?
>>339284718
It should be the spear animation
>>339281710
>sun sword buff
you went to 16 FAI for nothing
it has extremely poor effects in PvP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA-0k6FcztI
>>339280423
>There is LITERALLY NO CIUNTER.
>he doesn't have a bleed/lck build with twinswords
>>339284826
Only in 2
>>339284718
It's just the usual "Stab you and lay you down" animation.
The main reason i love pitchfork is because of the supposedly "useless" battle art, It starts off as a normal spear charge but then you fall over, What most people DONT know is if you fall INTO a player they get launched miles away. I've knocked several people off the rails in irithyll because of it.
>>339284095
>>339283884
You don't even need to go to NG+
Just get somebody to drop you the other sword you need after you beat princes in NG
>>339284826
Nope, it's purely based on Soul Level and Weapon Level.
>>339284715
>Be Me
>Lothric Knight set and my weapon of choice, Anri's Straight Sword
>Camping in Dragon Barracks among the various empty armor suits
>Blue+Finger for people to get their Ears
>Every once in a while, I kept getting this faggot who knew EXACTLY where I was every time
>Darkmoon Blessing on his Dancer's Blades
>Walks up and instagibs me
>Hid in the head of the worn out Dragon when you kill the first one
>He still finds me instantly, without a second thought
It's like he was using a fucking radar or something, cause you could not even fucking see me in there.
That or something that causes him to automatically lock on to the Host if within range.
>>339285024
>Needing friendsimplying i have any
>>339284819
>using this
>while also wearing Obscuring, Silvercat, Slumbering Dragon and Hornet rings
The asses I have ravaged...
>>339285024
>Using friends
I'm not that scummy. If I do it, it will be the true way.
is it true prisoner's chain damage is multiplied in pvp?
>>339280423
>enisle
Is there anything in this world more cancerous than that man?
>>339285167
You don't even need friends. Just go ask /dsg/ or something.
Maybe you have an item to give back in return that would make it a mutually beneficial situation
>>339285241
Nothing scummy about it anon. Transferring items you've already earned legitimately is just convenience. Especially when you're dealing with BS like the Twin Prince GS that asks you to beat the game twice.
>>339284979
>What most people DONT know is if you fall INTO a player they get launched miles away. I've knocked several people off the rails in irithyll because of it.
webm?
>>339284975
>>339285146
Ah, okay. Man I hate 2.
Why is he dead?
Also I have a feeling that I've skipped a boss, is there a boss similar to abyss watchers after road of sacrifice?
>>339285223
>>339284819
>ITS ANOTHER "LETS TRY PARRYING THE ULTRA SLAB OF METAL" HOST
>>339272573
p much me.
I'm thinking of switching to the Sun Sword or something else, but I'm not sure what.
>>339275557
I did the same. But I primarily use my Black Knight Greatsword regardless.
>>339281710
Can't do that anymore after the latest patch
>>339285419
He's dead either after advancing far enough into the game or using his free 5 levels. If he died from the former you fucked up, if the latter then you get Yuria
>>339285419
He dies the instant you enter catacombs, If you were going for lord of hollows then you're fucked, And there is a second boss in road of sacrifices that leads to another area, Just go left from the bonfire where you meet anri, Follow the wall and you cant miss it.
>>339284270
well, fuck you, buddy
>>339285419
>Why is he dead?
Cause he only has enough energy to survive for a little while before dieing.
He came all the way from Londor after all, carrying a massive back stone just so the Black Serpent wouldn't manifest.
Killing Abyss Watchers is considered "The passage of time is long enough for him to die."
Road of Sacrifices is home to the Crystal Sage, one of the twin Sage brothers, this one allied to the Abyss Watchers, his path leads to the Cathedral.
>>339278289
Stop this at once.
>>339270656
My bae
>>339285364
This
It was one thing when you could make a +10 sword to help beat the game on low SL characters. Now you're stuck holding back on your weapon refinement too.
It's pretty much just agonizing tedium to beat the game at low SL for twinking purposes now. I just do item transfers with my younger brother if I want a super low level build that needs end-game shit from after Pontiff or Dancer.
great axe
its great
How hard is it to kill Anri as soon as you meet them?
>>339285931
you can bait them to run off the cliff
>>339279282
Moveset on the Dragonslayer Sword-spear is excellent. Mixture of spear and halberd attacks, good damage, and a ranged lightning attack and buff too.
Haven't tried it much in pvp, but I can't imagine that it wouldn't be good.
>>339285931
They have like 3k HP each, but if you kill Smough first then Ornstein drops to the ground crying and won't do anything. You can also do >>339285975
>>339285931
If you want Anris stuff just send her to smouldering lake while horace is still alive down there.
>>339285931
focus Horace
after that Anri should fall on her knees and start crying
>>339285825
>calling the greataxe shit
i hope you have cyanide next to you when you posted this, because that's some top bait there
>>339284965
You can just roll out of bleed burst, as demonstrated in the video
>>339284095
but if you go past +2 on any weapon you wont be able to find anyone @ SL30
Farron Greatsword
It's just too much fun to B-Boy around people.
>>339285334
LITERALLY NO COUNTER
>>339286581
>implying anyone said that
He's literally saying he stopped using the Dark Sword in favor of the BKGA.
Learn to fucking read.
>>339286581
Im sorry??
>>339286690
not him but +2 astora straight still has 198 damage, and you can still use resins so you can still reach 240~ damage.
>>339284823
>true low level pvp
>killing peoples lowlvl characters in 1-2 hits
>true pvp
>>339286962
If you're going to twink, bleed is your best friend.
>>339286965
>>339284823
"True level PvP" doesn't mean much anymore due to the high amount of twinks that hang around the starting areas just to gank invaders. That and usage of friend codes allowing "scaled down" phantoms with full estus + rings and equipment combos that should be impossible at lower levels (Like Smough's hammer).
The lower damage output you WILL have also makes estus spam insufferable against those same hosts. Especially as; due to raw weapon dominance early game, it is better to just put points in Vigor to reach near end-game HP values (900-1000 without ember thanks to diminishing returns) anyways.
>dark sword nerfed
>population of darkwraith cosplays is decrasing
>>339278631
>has a handle, humanoid boss uses it in a cool way
>has a handle, player cant use it at all
disappointing as shit. should have been a stance.
>>339287956
I'm more pissed that you can't get the Dragonslayer's Armor. It's fucking radical looking,
>>339287956
>It's battle art isnt the dragonslayer stance
It really is awful
>>339288234
oh no, its battle art can only kill a host and 3 phantoms in one hit
how bad
>>339286690
You can go 3+ without any issues, 4+ might be possible even
>tfw deprived is actually the best starting class for your build
>>339273052
People actually like the bastard over the claymore or flamberge?
You could also just use the black knight greatsword and face tank things instead of having to time the stomp.
>>339288962
What build would that be?
>>339277838
Thats some of the shittiest artwork I've seen in a while.
>>339271962
They aren't secrets. It's like calling Carthus a secret when people are only too lazy to farm it.
>>339288996
>flamberge
where the fuck is it
4 playthroughs, never the flamberge
>>339279014
Pretty much agree except with katanas.
150 counter is stupid.
>>339286581
what did he mean by this
Replacing Dark Sword? Why even should I? You can go through this entire game WITHOUT dealing ANY damage to NOBODY.
>>339289215
The thralls that use it drop it, it's a rare drop
anyone else PVPing with the Lothric Greatsword? It scales fucking beautifully for Quality builds, plus there are v few weapons with lightning damage that can be infused
>>339289063
MY SL 80 shitter build
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/32510
>>339289571
>split damage weapons
>>339289415
How do bosses?
>>339277451
What are you cosplaying?
>>339289678
does the same amount of physical damage any other greatsword would do, except an extra 100ish lightning on top
+10 refined is beautiful
Never even picked it up.
As ahackermy favorite are the Sellsword Twinblades
>>339289749
Pretty simple.
>>339289571
>split damage weapons
>>339289994
I expected that, but still
>>339289749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbR7MYGPR6c
This is why invaders are doing a community service. Especially with all the effort FROM has made to enable brainless co-op and gimp invaders.
>dueling at pontiff
>summon a dude called Cpt. Falchion
>matching helmet
>flaming fists
>and a flaming falchion
>ate r1 spam like a champ
>>339290080
>>339289678
>these are the same people who prefer the Profaned Greatsword to Lorian's Greatsword
Keep your short stick while I buff the superior UGS with just 1FP
>>339285425
You can parry the Fume UGS 2H, along with the other UGS that share that moveset like BKGS.
>>339290170
You can also pray tho I prefer to hide.
The funniest thing is defeating invaders - just pray, hide, beg for mercy, act like a poor defendless woman. I am winning like 80% duels and they happen pretty often (finger for more summons attracts more enemies).
>>339290245
Cestus destroys true R1 spam. Perserverence allows you to directly overpower their R1 spam with your own L1 spam and they will have almost no visual indicator between you two-handing or one-handing for parries.
>>339289987
What does it matter what weapon you use?
>>339271327
This and never used dark sword in ds3
>that stagger when just out of range r1
love to interupt the sippy
I loved bk halberd in ds1 too. It was a shame that ds2 did not have the moveset.
>>339290298
Depends on the move. Most 2 handed great/ultra weapons have unparryable moves. All rolling attacks; and I believe running attacks, can be parried however.
>>339290453
They're fun to use.
>>339288620
Its just the fucking Dragon King GreatAxe, AND the battle art can be parried. Big Damage =/= Fun
>>339290202
That banjo Kazooie music is triggering me because that's not how the fucking song goes, what the fuck
>>339289893
Just one of the undead settlers, nothing fancy
>>339283865
>>339290651
are you autistic? it's hotline bling remixed like a BK song
>>339290836
Never heard that before
>>339290606
No, the whole moveset on Fume can be parried. It's fucked. Astora Greatsword can't be parried 2H, along with any other UGS with the horizontal R1.
The Astora Greatsword is also the only weapon in the game that can't be parried on rolling attack. That's because the game incorrectly registers it has a R2, which is also why it does INSANE counter damage and works with the Leo ring, the game thinks it's a thrust.
>>339290951
>The Astora Greatsword is also the only weapon in the game that can't be parried on rolling attack. That's because the game incorrectly registers it has a R2, which is also why it does INSANE counter damage and works with the Leo ring, the game thinks it's a thrust.
>mfw using it since day 1
>people are now realizing this
I wish it could have been kept in the dark for longer
>>339288146
>there are those people here, who will say "but you get the dragonslayer armor set.. and it looks almost the same" to you
well, fuck you people.
that armor from the boss looks completely differentand much better
>>339277097
Ma nigga.
Tried all kinds but keep going back to hollowslayer
>>339290951
>No, the whole moveset on Fume can be parried. It's fucked.
Considering it's range, huge hyper armor, and damage... I find this a relief. Time to test against the next Fume shitter I find.
>>339290651
>>339290920
that's giivasunner for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0FbkCTAdGk
>>339271556
/v/ ruined the game for me.
>>339285334
Iron Pineapple
>>339289415
>>339289994
>>339290426
Kek
This is a fun idea for a playthrough.
You're in firelink Shrine and this guy walks up and slaps your firekeeper on the ass.
How do you respond?
>have to go into 80's territory for my Morne knight cosplay
>>339291645
It's actually harder than playing this game solo.
>>339291717
I fucking eat his entire ass and then proceed to give his mouth hole a proper fucking
>>339290080
I've used DGA and MLGS and those things hit really hard.
My character is Frost Themed and is a pure Strength build, so this is really all I have.
Fully charged strong attacks connecting make me laugh every time though. Sit the fuck down.
>>339292240
>SL132
m8
Being able to finish the game purely because of hyperarmor feels better than sex
>>339292240
>sl132
>>339292240
>dat superior jaw
Fucking hell nigel
>>339292370
>>339292319
>This is somehow bad
I dont do fight clubs with this character, m8es
>>339292309
>He uses frost
>He uses status effects on slow swinging weapons
is DS1 prepare to die pvp alive these days?
I'm a poorfag and am considering buying the game after finding no cracked alternative.
>>339279614
Except it's shit and for only specific weapons. It also means you get no two handing of the weapon.
>>339280423
>People take this shit seriously
>>339292702
Not a counter
>>339292610
>>He uses status effects on slow swinging weapons
DS2's Sanctum Mace could inflict poison in a single attack.
Considering that host isn't actively engaging in combat and co-op butt buddies tend to be pretty bad at PvP without outnumbering their opponents this is not surprising.
>>339292656
Nope, still worth buying tho.
>>339292240
>all that VIT
>still using Havel's ring
>>339293157
Was intended as a reply for >>339292171
>>339280423
Why do people care about the meta if even the top players tell you to play what you have fun with?
>feel the itch to PVP again
>put down my sign at sully
>no summon in 10 minutes
>invade instead
>remember my health gets gimped to complete shit when invading
>host always has 2 phantoms sometimes even 3 helping him
>all using straight swords or washing poles
>casting crystal soul spears that hit me even if its nowhere near me
>literally forced to eat at least 2 hits because of the shitty as fuck poise system
>buffing with lightning blade and doing R1 L2 R2 combos still doesn't kill them because lol they have normal health
>these things repeat over and over again every single invasion
>6 fucking years
>5 games
>fuckloads of copies sold
>fuckloads of money made
>still, still the PVP is actual motherfucking garbage not worth anyones time
Bra-fuckin-vo Hackazaki
>>339293325
Go away afro
Is there equip load levels in this game?
I did not see that much difference in movement speed apart from fatroll at too much equipment.
>>339293592
You're supposed to summon instead, retard.
>>339293693
Yes, they are in the game.
Which is fucking retarded, since armor can't be upgraded.
>>339293693
below 30% is a longer (maybe faster?) roll, below 70% is normal fast roll and above 70% is fat roll
>>339293693
30% is slightly better but not enough to be worth it unless your weapon is really really light.
>>339293761
And that fixes the shitty hitboxes, lag, phantom range and fucking retarded poise, armor and stunlock mechanics?
Fuck off
I don't know what compels people to be the biggest faggots possible. I'm running a fucking gimmick build actually using the two-handed caestus or demon fist, named the Blacker Baron, with the Pyromancer robes and Pharis Hat on for the hat + fur coat look.
And yet people run in fucking fear if they only have 1 phantom with them, all the way back to the bonfire to summon two more in. Or I come into a world that has the host and 3 phantoms in it and no other invaders and all of them attack at once. Not once have I even seen someone so much as humor me by letting me at LEAST fight a phantom 1v1, or not resummon their phantom right after I killed them.
I can't even fucking parry in the two-hand stance, why are they so terrified of my sub-200 damage combos that have zero range?
>>339293168
Wow, It's almost as if i use heavy weapons and armor that weighs alot
>>339275672
Nobody expects the special move. Its kinda funny.
I WALK A LONELY ROAD
>>339293693
It seems that you dodge farther the lighter you are, after the 70% breakpoint it's fatroll.
>using Astora GS
>pvp against some fag with an estoc
>hyperarmour through his first attack and take off 70% of his health
>finally kill him after chasing around for a few minutes
>get a message saying "don't use weapons with hyperarmor because its cancerous"
oh the ironing
>>339288962
I thought deprived was like the go-to class for just leveling stats however you wanted to. am I just stupid? any reason to pick the other classes other than an easier time in the early game?
>>339294297
What attack have hyperarmor?
I find phantom armies obnoxious as fuck but you are naive if you invade and expect hosts to humor you in any fashion. If the hosts has phantoms and you lack the confidence to take them on you have to use the environment.
FROM needs to at least let interrupt host phantom summoning (with an actual summon animation) and disallow hosts from resummoning the same faggot over and over again until bonfire usage (like the NPC phantoms)
>>339294437
Better level placement. Why do you want to pick a class that wastes 6 or so levels into FTH/INT or other stuff you won't use instead of a class that uses those levels in what you want?
>>339294456
all of them, family. Even the rolling attacks.
>>339294562
Intended for >>339293929
Goddamn something keeps nuking my quotations.
>>339294297
When I used that weapon for a bit I often had people trying to parry it. Can't blame them though, it doesn't really look big enough to be classed as a UGS. Led to me getting some undeserved kills.
The charge WA also caught people off guard. You don't expect that kind of move on a greatsword.
>>339294297
Astora GS actually has an special rolling 2h attack that registers as thrust and is unparriable.
>>339294564
yeah, that's what I mean. isn't deprived the best cause you just have everything at base and level 1? like you can choose whatever you want without worrying about wasted stats
>>339270656
Found out it was OP and went to Dragonslayer Greataxe and used it since. Going with Morne's Greathammer on my second character
>>339294728
You're one stupid motherfucker
>>339294701
Is that the rolling R2?
>>339288620
imagine that but in a wide sweep being the r1 and the R2 being the slam
>>339294564
This.
As it stands, I only need 10 str/dex and enough att for a single spell, and then 26 vit, at least 20 end, 30 fai and 40 luck. Deprived happens to do this the most efficiently (only SL 77).
>>339294863
What's that?
>>339294863
>90
Why do you want to play with reddit?
>>339294931
The most boring, yet efficient build at SL90
>>339294965
Rebbit plays at SL120
I didn't because I was doing a Caim cosplay build.
>>339294931
It's not this, but it's similar.
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3
Enter the levels you want and this will help you find what class hits that at the lowest SL
>>339294687
Oh man the guys who just stand there trying to parry the 2H R1, after the 3rd or 4th time you'd think they'd figure it out.
>twinks in the forest
jesus fuckign christ
>>339295085
>It's not this, but it's similar.
It's mugenmonkey you retard, click next to the icon where it says Class and it will tell you want's the best starting class depending on what you want to level up
>>339294863
well excuuuuse me for not giving a shit about soul level meta and perfect quality build min-maxing
>>339295178
Well you claimed to understand how classes work and obviously you didn't. No need to get salty.
>>339295178
>well excuuuuse me for not giving a shit about soul level meta and perfect quality build min-maxing
Might want to kill yourself if after getting the answer to the question you posed your reaction is to act like a casual who only plays for "fun"
>>339280423
they nerfed it, its rather easy to break trough greatshields now as long as you can switch to a straight sword during the fight, pressure and spam stance r1s
>>339293592
Meanwhile, DaS2 iron bridge is still active at most soul level ranges and you're very likely to be summoned within 10-20 seconds of you laying down a red sign
>>339295178
>isn't deprived the best cause you just have everything at base and level 1? like you can choose whatever you want without worrying about wasted stats
Why are you such an extreme faggot, anon?
>>339290951
>No, the whole moveset on Fume can be parried.
Empirically wrong. You can parry every running attack and rolling attack except for whips. That's an incredibly basic rule for pvp.
>some people actually take Souls PVP seriously and think its some kind of deep-ish fighting game with all kinds of different tactics and deep mechanics
>>339295178
>perfect quality build min-maxing
That's just an example. In the same way, if you want to play as a wizard, your starting class obviously will be wasting points if you pick warrior instead of sorcerer
>>339295165
I didn't know that you cunt.
Thanks you faggot.
Guys I'm making a faith build and have been using Blessed Long Sword so far, but the scaling haven't been good so far. What weapon should I use instead?
>>339295431
>You can parry every running attack and rolling attack except for whips.
>people like this keep getting shit on by Astora GS users
>>339295509
Just use the dark moon blade/lightning blade weapon buff.
>>339295509
Change that to lightning infusion. Use a Lothric/Astora sword of your preference with Lightning infusion.
Blessed infusion is not as strong as lightning but gives passive healing, Lightning is stronger but no healing
>>339295634
But should I just keep the blessed long sword?
>>339295558
>How is that relevant
>>339289960
Except that's terrible, because it doesn't just apply physical resistance to the physical part and the lightning resistance to the lightning part, it applies both resistances to the finished result.
Split damage weapons suck, period, done. (in pvp)
>>339270656
Messed around with different weapons until I got the Black Blade and Lothric Spear. Finished the game for the first time with both at +10, the charge on the spear is godly.
>>339295509
Guide to faith build:
MAKE RAW ASS
VIG/END GOUGE
GET LIGHTNING BLADE/DARKMOON (ONLY IF YOU'RE A GRINDING MADMAN)
R1 TO VICTORY
>>339295728
No, blessed weapons suck.
>>339294562
The environment doesn't help much at all if they have phantoms and you don't have a one shot weapon. Even one phantom's more than enough to negate practically any enemies I could lead them to (and that's if they don't just giant's seed), and there's not nearly enough worthwhile ledges that you could lead people to.
It just pisses me off that I invaded for like an hour and couldn't find one person who showed any appreciation for fighting someone who wasn't going for a meta PVP build when they were sitting around waiting to fight anyone. Just estus chugging, infinite summoning, straight swords, katanas that exclusively use dash attack, and gank squads with mages using great heavy soul arrow.
>>339293907gitgut
>>339295847
Well I could infuse it with lightning later, I'm still too early in the game to have lightning infusion.
>>339296072
Fromdroning is retarded and sad anon.
>>339295751
Nah, not really.
>>339296048
Depends on the area as well. Irithyl Dungeons for example is actually a bad area to invade contrary to solo experience because the jailers are so piss easy to burst down with co-op phantoms.
Part of the reason gank squads tend to be easy to handle is that the "meta PvP build" isn't actually that great in PvP anyways. Straightswords are easy to parry or hyper armor through. Katanas are pretty mediocre with the exception of the parry attack which follows the same exact principle.
That and while the majority of players are guide worshipping shitters you will find a lot of fun flavor builds inevitably. I have met a surprising amount of whip users for example as an invader, with some being flavored after the Belmonts.
May find these vids interesting as a fist user.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHtRfwEa324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPkeMGIdcCg
>>339295305
Does that look nerfed to you?
>>339295751
Its really only terrible when split damage leads to similar APR to pure damage weapons. Otherwise it varies. If you have the same Phys damage + some element then of course it will be superior.
How do you get good at PvP as a int / faith build? I just keep dying over and over. I have 18 strength 25 Dex 48 int and 40 faith
>>339297310
int/faith builds are awful in general. nothing you can do about it
I'm starting a new game soon, I want a Battle Pope run with the Archdeacon set. What's a good STR weapon that isn't a club? I ran Large/Great/Vordt's/Great Mace the first run.
I thought about Drang Maracas, Yhorm's Great Machete/Regular Great Machete, and Butcher's Knife.
>dueling some guy
>get him to low health
>he pulls out a ceastus
or
>he pulls out a katana and only does sprint attack
None of you fags had better be in this thread
>>339286034
The lightning attack always seems to catch people off guard. You won't kill anyone with it, but you do cause them to panic. It's pretty slow so you need to time your attacks carefully. It's not a R1-spam weapon.
>>339297424
I figured as much, are there any spells that aren't easily dodged? Every one just rolls out of the way of souls spear and sunlight spear
Yo /v/, quick question:
I've heard that there are some weapons with an Art that allows you to shoot projectiles and shit if you have even 1 FP. What are those weapons? I've heard you can make a Simple shield or something and just shoot shit at your opponents.
I was thinking of making a Megaman build where I was nothing but projectiles out the ass. The only weapon I know of that shoots projectiles is the Dragonslayer Spear.
>>339297702
>dueling some guy
>get to low health
>he pulls out estoc and keeps spamming running attacks and r1s
At that point i just say fuck it and heal.
>>339297972
literally every spell, miracle or pyromancy can be easily rolled away from. maybe a combo like affinity and soul spear can catch someone sometimes but that's all i can think of
>>339298107
It might be the greatsword you make from Pontiff's soul. I think it was called greatsword of Judgment or something.
>>339284116
The Caestus/Demon Fist do obscene damage if you use the L1 combo to tear into enemies. I solo'd the Pontiff Beasts in the Water Basin area just by comboing them with my fists.
>>339298163
Affinity really needs its tracking buffed, some wide range spells would be nice too
>>339295023
90s still face 120s, highest you can go is 86.
I love it because the build pays off really well for the bullshit you have to go through.
>>339298107
From ruined the spear with the faggy charge before the projective.
You have greatsword of judgement, twin princes and lothric holy sword. Middle one is best for your cosplay, you can pretend you got fire powers too.
>>339298816
This and pic related for me.
>Charge
>Spin
>Finish off with a hit..
Gotta love it
So I made an Indiana Jones character to use the whip and invade/co-op with people in the catacombs but I have no idea what I could possibly wear to emulate him. Any suggestions?
>>339283459
>>339284641
>>339284823
>>339285024
Anyone willing to drop me either sword? Gonna face the princes fairly soon and I'd love to use it this playthrough.
>>339300479
I can in a couple of minutes. You on PC? I got Lothric's almost fully upgraded.
>>339300076
The leather armor and Pharis hat is a good start, I guess.
>>339300076
Pharis Hat for sure, aside from that either some form of Leather armor or if you can find the right combination of pants/arms, the Painted Guardian robes in Dark Souls 1 would roll up the sleeves/tuck in the shirt and look kinda like a regular shirt. That might work if it does the same thing in 3.
>>339299645
I love using this weapon, but the weapon art is just a free parry
>>339301675
Also the final swing can be rolled out off
What level do people pvp? I'm at lvl 120, with a bunch of +10 weapons. wondering if having multiple +10s puts you in a higher bracket because people have like 3k health.
>>339300581
Thanks, I'm on ps4 I'm afraid.
Also trying to keep my weapon memory T +6/+3. I appreciate it though.
>>339302302
It does. You won't get matched with anyone who has not used a slab.
I only invade so I keep myself level 50 with +6 gear.
>>339272165
>greataxe
mah man
Just can't git gud with the claymore. It doesn't have 1h poise and everyone either swings faster than me, has better reach or can armour through my shit. Cant tell if the stance ability has any armour either, must be an extremely narrow window if it does. Help me, lads, it's my favourite weapon and I don't want to give up on it.
>>339302302
Multiples don't matter, the weapon memory only accounts your highest upgraded weapon.
>>339302598
As much as I love the Claymore, I don't think it's very viable pass lower levels. Same can be said for other GSs.
If it does have hyper-armor, it's pretty much useless compared to UGSs. The stance attacks are only good against shitters with the lunge being completely fucking useless thanks to its low range. The only real redeeming qualities of the Claymore and GSs is that they scale decently and don't completely deplete your stamina to put out good damage.
Honestly, you're better off just going with the Astora Greatsword for your needs. It's aesthetic as fuck, charge attack is great, scales well, and fucking light as shit.
>>339284494
>Buffs
Buffs get reduced to 20% effectiveness in PVP. At 99 fai and the best chime, Darkmoon blade adds about 100 damage. At 30 faith, it adds about 47.
>>339280215
Quality is only for 120 meta. The 20 extra AR you get over Heavy/Sharp isn't worth the 30-35 points.
>>339303468
But what about all those people saying "Fuck viability, do what you love" etc. is it possible to get so good that garb weapons become godlike?
>>339303468
DaS2 Claymore was infinitely superior to the DaS3 trash version. Sweeping, fast R1s over that stupid, low range slam R1.
Anyone on Ps4 wanna help with NK? I've beaten him solo before but this is my sl50 build and it's going much rougher.
>>339304134
DaS2 claymore and weapons with a similar moveset are just godly to punish backstab fishers using the second one handed R2. none of the other souls give the weapon something like it
![fume_ultra_greatsword[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/uokWzfT.png "fume ultra greatsword[1]")
![gundyrs_halberd[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/HrAmPOU.png "gundyrs halberd[1]")
