Hey /v/ I wanted soon to updgrade my GPU. I thought about the Gtx 1070 but I hear more and more about gimpled down GPU´s by nividia to make us buy new cards.
This is just terrible and now I am affraid of what to do. Now I am thinking of buying an AMD card.
Anyway now in all honesty is this true?
Secondly, I have a GTX 760 and which driver is the best for my card? I have the feeling, that my card has seriously lost power...
>>339263906
>I have the feeling, that my card has seriously lost power...
Because the 700 series aka kepler was the first series to be gimped. Your card was on the 960's level until gameworks happened and crippled it
Just wait for amd vega/490
I also have a 760 nvidia is cancer
>>339264062
Okay I think I really will go over to AMD eventually. Is the price to power ratio good at AMD cards?
I will have 400-450 euro for a new GPU soon...
Isn´t there a 760 driver which gives it back the perfomance it once had?
>>339264349
>buying AMD
I've had 2 AMD cards and they've given me nothing but shit. Overheating, CTDs, BSODs, freezes, on both cards.
Don't buy AMD.
>>339263906
get a ps4.5.
i was a pc gamer for 10+ years and spent all in all over $5000 on hardware.
getting a used 200 doallrs ps4 was the best decision of my life.
im having fun with games again.
>>339264434
But what if I pay so much money for a nvidia card and it gets gimped down?
I will always be afraid now, that my card get´s gimped down. Wth has nvidia done..
>>339264434
t.Nvidia
>>339264589
>A guy had an awful experience and is sharing it? Must be a shill!
>>339264529
You're going to get shafted either way, anon. I just prefer my shafting to come later rather than consistently.
The gimping is true. havent updated my driver for months now due to it
I hear AMD equivalents are pretty good, and depending on where you live the price is better too, so go for it.
>>339264529
>how can I not get screwed?
Don't worry, nvidia will manage to gimp your AMD too.
>>339264434
I've had Nvidia and AMD cards and never had serious issues with either.
While I'm not saying that didn't happen, I don't think the failure rate for either from a reputable manufacture is that different.
Out of curiosity, what partner manufacture were your AMD/Nvidia cards? Overheating, which could be causing everything else you listed, seems more like a card (bad paste) issue.
>>339265135
Oh here comes our AMD tech support rep.
If you're on a budget go with Polaris. It will be $250 or less and give you similar performance to the 1070 in most games. If you really need to run your console ports in 4k/60fps wait for Vega and hbm2. Everything else is just jewing you out of your money.
>>339265091
Fucking this. Their shady business practices are probably illegal, but until something is done about it there's pretty much no reason not to buy anything but an nvidia card unless you're poor.
>>339264349
>Isn´t there a 760 driver which gives it back the perfomance it once had?
No because gameworks integrates it's garbage in nearly every game on the software level. Drivers won't do anything.
Nvidia said their 900 series fully supported dx12 when it did not as they were missing async compute
Nvidia said the 970 had 4 gb vram when it had 3.5
Hell even their 1000 series doesn't fully support async compute.
Amd's cards perform better over the years from the charts I've seen. I don't trust nvidia either so I will go vega.
Also note that nvidia forces tessellation in every game because that's the only thing their 900 series cards are good at. Us 700 users requested a tessellation slider like amd users gave their cards and they ignored us.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/837934/the-official-request-forum-for-tesselation-slider-in-nvcp/
This here is objective proof. The other guys will toss in pretending they own amd cards but they really don't. Like I said I have a 760 and can screencap it for you if you want.
As for the gameworks shit nvidias power is waning and some games are running worse now. In the end amd cards usually perform better.
>>339265091
With amd putting in anti gameworks measures in their new cards, nvidia isn't gonna have a good time. Some games are running worse initially on nvidia and if they aren't, all it takes is a patch or driver from amd to get it running on par or better.
>>339265135
I don't remember what my 5850 was, but my 7950 is a Sapphire. Bought it day 1 and have had nothing but issues after a month or so had passed.
>friend has to pay $15 extra a year just to power his AMD card over his old nvidia card
im not even kidding, power here might be a lil expensive but from what ive seen AMD cards pull twice as much power for the same preformance of nvidia's equivalent, after overclocking on the nvidia
280x and gtx 960 is a good example
I'm going to be getting my first expensive PC soon, is Logical Increments still the most recommended guide to PC building?
>>339265426
That sucks. The 7950 was even supposed to be somewhat stable, I remember when everyone bought them up for bitcoin mining.
If it's still worth it reapllying the thermal paste might be worth a shot, it does seem a bit more common on AMD cards. My old 5870's paste is shot after being toasty for about a year, a month seems like they probably just fucked up though.
>>339265524
Its true that AMD generally consume more power now, but the 280x was a rebrand of a 2012 card that competed against the gtx 770, and its more powerful than the 960.
You can probably buy an used/refurbished 280X for a lot cheaper than the cost of a 960 and make up for the higher bill cost anyways
A more fitting comparison would be the 380/380X that don't have a consumption that high
>>339263906
Good job buying into /g/ propaganda.
I suppose if you shill enough, people will start to believe it.
>>339263906
I'm getting it since I have a 650.
>>339264349
People freaked out because Hairworks has something like 16x AA applied. You can easily turn it down to 4x and get acceptable framerates.
>>339265284
Wait I will be getting a polaris card for 250 Euro with the same performance of a 1070 which will cost like 450 euro??
>>339267640
He should buy into /v/ propaganda instead.
>>339264062
How do you ungimp a Nvidia card?
>>339265346
Amd will put anti gameworks measures into their new polaris and vega cards?? That would be reason for me to got with AMD
>>339265524
280x is a better card than the 960. The new 300 series, which are the ones you should compare the 960 to, are much more power efficient, better aswell.
Go be a good goy somewhere else.
>>339265426
Anecdotal evidence. I have a Sapphire 7850 too and its been a real sport ever since I had it. Its got an average score of 5 eggs out of 5 on newegg from 70 reviews. Sadly no computer component is safe from being DOA
>buy nvidia
>card eventually gets gimped
>buy amd
>nvidia gimpworks rapes your card
nvidia fucks you over no matter what you buy
>>339263906
you are a dumb pleb. know that
ITT: Mustard problems
>Buy AMD and not support nvidia's shady practises
>Have a card that suffers on most/all gameworks games and runs poorly
>Buy nvidia and fund satan
>Have a card that runs well for a year or two
Help
>>339268273
>>339267461
I was getting higher fps in almost every mmo I play though, even overwatch
sorry my real world testing is outdoing your benchmarks...
>>339267923
Similar not the same. In newer Dx12 and vulkan tittles AMD cards do much better than Nvidia so the gap will be smaller than you'd think for the price difference.
>>339269085
Nobody believes your bullshit, sorry.
>>339269435
This is very interesting...
>>339264349
I would wait for Vega, with 450 burgers you probably can buy the cheapest card.
>>339269435
Will it? Dx12 itself doesn't grant more performance to AMD, async compute just works better on their cards. But because nvidia is shit with it devs seem to be avoiding it too
>>339270849
Vega shmega, AMD is slowpoking as fuck, not even press release to let customers know if they can go toe to toe with nvidia new cards. How is any of this shit acceptable?
>>339270960
The important thing is that low level api's like dx12 and vulkan means that theres no need for per game optimisation and day 1 drivers.
I wouldn't be surprised if is nvidia holding back the Doom Vulkan update so AMD's cards look bad.
>>339265750
help me you nerds
>>339263906
>760
my condolences
>>339271412
Buy yourself an i5-6600k which is a cheap and very good processor. Buy yourself 8 gig of ram and thats it.
As you can see, the GPUs are debateble because of all that gimpshit.
With no plans for 4k in the near future.
Do I 1070 or do I 970 or do I Sapphire 390 Nitro?
>>339271756
wait a month polaris then make a decision
>>339270960
True but I think we could see that change with the upcoming "new" consoles and their games. They're all running on AMD and they will want to squeeze as much blood out of them turnips as they can and that will translate over to the PC very quickly.
>>339271756
1070 so you can do 1440p 144hz instead
>>339269064
you're not poor are you?ps4k
So what comes after the 1080?
How long does it take for something better to come out?
Will there be a new lineup at the end of the year or .. ?
>>339271756
Wait for Polaris. The 480x performs like a Fury, more or less.
>>339272073
If the rumors are true, Vega will come out in October. Make your calculations.
>>339272249
Will the Vega be double the performance of the 1080 or something like 1.5 times?
>>339272590
Vega has nothing to do with 1080, it's a new architecture from AMD.
>>339263906
I would seriously wait for Polaris from AMD, they look like they give no fucks over Pascal
http://m.imgur.com/vI8DM0u?r
From their recent Macau private Polaris reveals to the press
>>339272590
I don't think so. But I believe that it will perform much better in some games or contexts.
>>339264434
I have had 2 amd cards, a 6970 and currently a 7970. Never had an issue with either.
>>339268041
Install old legacy drivers. Though it's likely multiple games will ask you to update drivers because "lul they are gud 4 u"
Buy a top of the line Nvidia GPU if you plan to upgrade in 2 or less years.
Buy whatever from AMD if you don't buy top of the line and want long lasting performance.
>>339273554
Who is this semen demon
>>339263906
>>339264062
>>339264349
>>339264529
>>339265091
>>339265295
>>339265346
>gimping
Seriously, do you guys not do any research and just blindly believe what people say on the internet? There's been no evidence to that, only conjecture and speculation.
The only issues with Kepler have been mainly on Witcher 3 at launch with lower performance, which was fixed a long time ago in a driver update.
Why are you guys surprised that your old cards are struggling in new games? That's what happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvCsT_dk-1E
>>339275509
Looks like AMD finally got their drivers working for Fallout
>>339275671
>Glossing over the fact Nvidia cards dropped by 30% performance after a patch while AMD risen by as much
lel
>>339275897
Looks to me like Nvidia didn't lose anything, AMD just gained a lot more
Plus your pic is from a youtube channel dedicated to bashing Nvidia
>>339276138
I don't see the Keplers in that chart.
>>339277049
From that same article
>Meanwhile, if you heard rumors that Nvidia was intentionally crippling performance on older Kepler GPUs, we did run a quick test with a GTX 770 using both older and newer drivers and found no noteworthy changes, so you can hopefully rest easy.
>>339273397
Polaris and Vega probably belong to the same series.
>>339277687
So, the performance doesn't improve, right? Unlike the Sea Islands.
>>339278130
I'll agree that AMD's architecture is aging better than Kepler, but being intentionally gimped? No, that's not happening
Nig, AMD conference is tomorrow I believe. Wait for that.
>>339263906
>7,5 Gb
Wow AMD shilling hardcore ITT. AMD has been behind the curve since the 5000 series. The last card I bought was the 7850 which I had to put aftermarket cooling on because the HSF that came with it was insufficient and noisy. It was annoying to get 60fps in a game, only to have the frame rate drop to 40fps after the card heated up. Also, I had non-stop issues with microstutter on that card too. Nothing got resolved until I switched to an equivalent nVidia card.
>>339278243
The conference is on June 1.
Who the hell are you going to belive here srlsy...
>>339264527
>sony brings out next gen console
>brings out another one after a few years that's even more powerful
Do people actually think that's acceptable? Lol
>>339264434
>buying NVIDIA
I've had 2 NVIDIA cards and they've given me nothing but shit. Overheating, STDs, BSODs, freezes, on both cards.
Don't buy NVIDIA.
Buy a AMD card and a nVidia card
Use them simultaneously
Win
>Nvidiots will defend this
>>339279669
Not their fault you live in a 3rd world country with high taxes and import tariffs
>>339265524
Weird, my R9 380 draws considerably less power than my old GTX275.
>>339279669
Don't use scan mate, their customer service has gone to shit in the last few years, they'll jew you on RMAs, damage hardware returns and claim you did it, stuff like that. Happened to a friend of mine and they demanded she pay a restocking fee.
Maybe for small stuff you wouldn't bother returning if it's faulty, but for a big purchase? Use somewhere that doesn't treat its customers like shit.
>>339278415
Pitcairn isn't even that hot of a gpu, I have a r9 270 in my second system in a small form factor case and I selected it specifically because sub 150w tdp.
Sounds like you had a defective cooler mate, which manufacturer did you buy from?
>>339279652
Possible with DX12 actually
>8 GB G5
So 6 GBs?
>>339280457
Scan really fucking went down hill since I last used it in 2012 then, good god.
>>339279669
>>339263906
wait for HBM2 cards
>>339283905
>not waiting for HBM3
Do you want shit performance or what?
>>339283448
>Founders Edition
That's some tip top marketing.
>>339283995
You just have to wait four months for the HBM2 cards, though.
>>339283995
So what is that HMB2 card anyway?
>Nvicucks will defend this
>>339285058
Four months lol. I'd be surprised if we see a consumer based GPU with HBM2 before April 2017.
>>339287906
>RTS
>Such shitty performance on both companies
I have a R9 390X but man I am fucking disappointing with that game. Why does everyone splerg so much over benchmarks of that game when it's obviously so shitty optimized. It doesn't look any better than any RTS that came out these years (see: Act of Aggression, Grey Goo)
