https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-yiFBRdbA
Was the DS really capable of graphics like this? Why the fuck did 3D games look so bad on it then?!
>>339243772
I do not see anything special OP.
Very short looped track, few simple objects in the background and semi hipoly 1 model of sonic.
Sonic Team is great at making engines that can push the limits of the hardware.
>>339243872
Do you realize how bad DS games look?
>>339243872
The sonic model looks really smooth, like from a gamecube game. Its moving at a fast speed in a fully 3D world in what looks like a better looking seaside hill. And its just a tech demo
>>339243919
>Do you realize how bad DS games look?
PS1 level of visuals.
But judging by Mario N64 remake, you can make good looking model for such specs.
>>339244016
>at a fast speed in a fully 3D world
Look at this "world", it repeat itself every 5 meters.
Also, only 1 sonic model, no enemies or anybody else, no wonder you can put all those polygons in him.
>>339244051
Mario N64 remake was also very good, but it was also an outlier, and not an indication of the typical DS game at all.
>>339244143
>implying Sonic DS wasn't also an outlier
>no matter how much love devs and artists pour into their games and no matter how good they can get the graphics to look, games will always be limited by the 240p top screen on the 3ds
>Nintendo will always be a generation or two or three behind on their screen resolutions for their consoles
I understand lower screen resolution = longer battery life, but Nintendo better use AT LEAST 720p in their next handheld. Text doesn't even look sharp on the 3ds.
it's a bit late to complain about DS specs when the 3DS is out. Tbh at the time I was just glad to have a GBA 2.0 for most of the 2D games and RPGs that started coming out.
>>339244190
OP's point is that these type of games look leaps and bounds better than 99% of DS titles, many of which struggled despite being fully 2D.
>>339244286
Good luck making a 720p handheld and keeping it in the same price range as 3DS
It has to be affordable to lower middle-class mothers who buy them for their young children.
>>339244108
But even then look at how its a fully 3d world moving at a fast pace with a sharp model. The final game of what was sonic ds, sonic rush, was just flat 2D images for backgrounds/levels with a very low res 3D sonic model. Completely different result
sup
>>339243772
>believing in tech demos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shch7LNkVXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Lf4uVuE50
>>339244432
>>339244426
Also i just fucking noticed! The shadows in sonic ds look amazing and arent just blobs. They are like serious next gen shadows and even lighting. Why was the final ds so weak?
>>339243772
>On rails shit
kek.
Look at Resident Evil on the 3ds, it's graphics are significantly better than most titles. Less freedom in 3d=better the graphics can be. It also doesn't help that it is a tech demo, a game like Uncharted 4 looked much better when it was first revealed.
>>339244586
The HW was the same, it's simply a matter of a tech demo (nothing on screen other than Sonic's model) vs actual games.
>>339244389
Even budget Android phones have 720p or higher screens these days. Nintendo could easily afford to put a 720p screen on their next handheld, the cost would probably be even less to them if they gave up the dual screen gimmick. Middle class parents often buy iPads or iPod touches to pacify their children, a 720p screen would not put a handheld out of their price range.
My ideal Nintendo handheld would have the same form factor as the n3ds, except with no bottom screen to make room for a bigger battery, either two circle pads or the right nub is improved somehow, a GPU and processor that are at least comparable to a mid range smartphone at the time of release, a standard USB type C charging port, and a1080p screen. That should be doable for $300 or less at launch, especially considering games come on cartridges and there's no need for a lot of internal storage. The Nexus 5x is $350 right now for comparison, and that has things a handheld gaming device doesn't need, like cell phone radios, a more expensive camera than what a console would need, 16gb of storage instead of like 1gb, etc etc.
>>339245025
Yes, a 720p screen wouldn't be much of a problem, but a GPU capable of playing games at that resolution is gonna bump up the price significantly.
>>339245242
I'm pretty sure when new handheld released price for 720p capable GPU would already low.
How about that NX rumor using Tegra? I wont surprised if their handheld department will follow if that is true.
Tegra powered android tabs are in $200-300 range. Still tad high, but who knows.
>>339245242
The same can be said about 3d and dual screens. Smartphones are already at an acceptable level for playing 720p games at the $300 price point, there's no reason Nintendo couldn't pull it off.
>>339245724
>theres no reason nintendo couldnt do it
Theyre not going to do anything amazing. Shit id be surprised if the next handheld was at least as strong and versatile as the vita is. Mobile has cut deep into handheld sales and functions. 100 million gba, to 150 million ds, to 60 million 3ds. Its a shrinking market, you dont pour money into those. The next handheld probably wont sell more than 45 or 50 million
Was that game ever released?
>>339243919
Impressive technical feats thread?
https://youtu.be/hWBUdgIa0oE?t=43
Most developers didn't bother trying. The Kingdom Hearts games on the DS look and play great.
>>339245994
I think Gears of War 3, Battlefield 3, and Sonic Unleashed look fucking unreal on xbox 360. Like those are without a doubt the best looking games the system has and I'm surprised they look as good as they do. Its weird how all following sequels, Gears of War Judgement, Battlefield 4, and Sonic Generations look much worse.
>>339245907
I'm not expecting anything amazing, just mid range smartphone tier without any stupid gimmicks like 3d and controls that enable good variety of games.
>>339243772
Holy shit, that game looks awesome
Rub the screen to make Sonic GOTTA GO FAST
How did this now release!?
>>339246320
>no dumb gimmicks
My friend you are in for a wild ride, that is all nintendo does. The last time they just made a little box to play games without any retardation was the gamecube and even then the controller can be argued against, but its rare because it was a solid controller. The controls dont enable what type of games are made, the graphics and processors do. Hence why the vita got open world games like gravity rush, the long adventure 3D platformer tearaway, or impressive FPS killzone..its on nintendo to provide a fair and powerful system for everyone else to use.
>>339246518
>Tearaway
>long
Did we play the same game? I'm pretty sure we didn't.
>>339246652
Not game length long, but like it all flowed together long. Like a long journey that seamingly connected together and each place you went to progressed logically
>>339246652
>>339246837
ALSO, some of the collectibles were kind of hard to find so it doubled up as a collecthon. It was like a giant traveling adventure where you just go through different lands, jump through shit with puzzles, take pictures with the camera, talk with npcs and help them...its such a comfy game.
because that's a simple game with repeating textures, retard
>>339243919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae1dcvPXryM
>>339244286
480 looks good on a small screen
>>339244293
that's why I sold my ds
i bought it because portable n64, and then it turned into gba 2.0
>>339244586
because sonic levels have to be long, and you have to load the whole level in at once, because sonic moves so fast
>>339248097
Not really, and especially not on the inevitable XL version. If Nintendo does use two screens on their next handheld, I think 1600x960 would be the optimal resolution for the top screen. That way it could run 3ds games without interpolation (when you take a lower resolution image on a higher resolution screen and it looks blurry because some of the pixels from the image have to be stretched to fit on multiple pixels on the screen).
>>339249006
>1600x960
lol, that's way too high
I have a 480 phone, and I can't even see the pixels
>>339246837
it took me less than 10 hours to get all the trophies
>>339249636
You are either blind or are getting the resolution wrong on your phone.
DS can actually handle decent modelling but it was fucking awful textures that look like something the PS1 shat out.
>>339250249
most people agree
see; 3ds sales
>>339245994
Is this magic?
>>339243772
theres almost nothing to this though
the ''''game'''' itself and the gameplay
>>339250629
Most people disagree
See; the popularity of Apple's "retina displays"
>>339252536
Most of the people buying apple products aren't interested in specs tbf
