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Nerf this overpowered fat fuck
Nerf this too plz
I'd nerf the fat right off her if you know what I mean.
>>339232401
>Nerfing the most fun character
For what purpose? If you're so butthurt why don't you try using here instead of whining?
>>339232535
So I take it you only find her fun because you're too shit to be good at other classes? Truly this is reddit.
>>339232634
Stop missing shots and you could kill her. Also stop running off alone.
It's a team game, fight as a team. She was built to keep faggots from running off alone.
>>339232889
>stop running off alone
>its a team game
Tell that to my team mates.
>>339232401
HAHAHAHHAHAHA HOW THE FUCK Do you get killed by this character HAHAHAHHA NIGGA JUST stay in range and away from her LIKE NIGGA DONT GET TO CLOSE
>>339232401
Snuggle with this adorable cutie patootie.And never let go.
WHY ISN'T MCCREE REMOVED YET HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>Make her secondary fire her new primary fire with no shot delay.
>Make her Shift move her ice beam
>Running on ice that you shoot at the ground speeds you and teammates up
>Glacier shield is removed completely
There. I fixed her barely having to nerf her at all
DON'T BULLY MEI!
SHE IS CURVY AND CUTE!
>>339233125
>her ice slows you a lot, but doesn't completely freeze you
>her iceblock doesnt heal
Fucking fixed
Is mei actually decent and worth using
Git gud
>>339234114
considering you can just w+m1 and occasionally right click, i guess so
>>339232401
NO
Stuff her full of yummy treats instead
>never used in competitive because shes so easy to counter
>retards still have not got gud
Just give her 200 health and she would be perfect. There's no reason a character with an invincible full health heal and wall to have so much health. Especially since she shits on anybody 1v1 that isn't named macree.
>>339233213needs more rolls
>>339232401
MUDA DA
>>339234481
>This guy
Here you go faggot
>>339232401
Reapers ult needs a major nerf. Shit is a one button multi kill.
>>339234394
>Never used in competitive
She's actually a great counter to genji and tracer.
>>339234394
She's never used in comp because McCree is on every comp team and is literally the only hard counter to her in the game.
Gross fat chink. People only like her because she's op
>>339234603
I agree to an extent. I think the simplest thing would be to shortern the range. It kills you when you aren't even close.
Nerf torbjorn turret accuracy and maybe I'll have fun again
Every team with 2 fucking torbs man
She doesn't need a nerf at all you just need to git gud. I hate her fucking fat guts because she is hands down the most frustrating hero to play against but she's actually well balanced.
>>339233072
Why can't you fags learn to stay more than three inches away from McCree?
>People who don't know how to properly balance video games asking to nerf/buff heroes.
>Nerf Reaper ult
>>339234594
thaats too far
I do have standards, loose they may be
>>339234114
she is annoying as fuck in 1v1 but she gets raped by crossfire
>Completely unbeatable in close range, will out perform everyone from McCree to Reaper to Tracer
>Can defeat long range combat with walls and ice encapsulation
>Most people are too stupid to anything except run blindly into her
How about you git fucking gud, scrub?
>>339234394
thats because McCree is in every game ever
>>339232889
>It's a team game, fight as a team.
This so much oh my god
There is nothing more frustrating than sitting on mercys ult because all you can ever do is revive 1 other player because they're all scattered around the fucking map, running around like headless chicken and the one guy who you decided to follow, runs straight ahead into the enemies, dies and blames you for not healing properly
I can't wait for ranked matches
>>339234290
You'd take Mei out for a doughnut date andhold hands afterwards, right /v/?
>>339232401
I want to be a swimsuit clad Mei
>>339234774
most balance issues could be resolved if the game just had some fucking damage falloff.
McCree should not be able to outsnipe the sniper sniping him
>>339234643
If a Tracer loses to a Mei she needs to stop playing. Thats the one 1v1 matchup Mei cannot ever hope to win. Genj shes good against yeah but you don't see him that often and competitive is not about 1v1s/1v2s where Mei is a beast.
>>339234669
And snipers. 250hp doesn't do shit when you have 0 mobility and are gonna get shot in the head by snipers who play like they have aimbots. Then you need to iceblock because the 2nd shot is gonna kill you.
>>339234603
Just use D.Va, her matrix skill completely negates edgelord's ult and it feels fucking great.
For him it must feel like receiving a kick in the balls right before cumming.
>>339234895
Game needs another sniper.
i'd slap her fat titties around if you know what i mean
>>339234783
>That
>Not having standards
I coulda posted 3-D if I assumed you didnt.
>>339234947
AGAIN AGAAAAIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN!
>>339234987
Game needs a damage sponge
Like an even more defensive reinhardt but with less damage output
>>339234947
Widowmaker counters everything because hitscan snipers are cancer as fuck and don't belong in any FPS
>>339234745
HIS ULT HAS INFINITE RANGE JACKASS
>exit hallway for 1 second
>die
>>339234947
>>339235037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-asmVIDFOc
>>339234895
McCreee has damage falloff. It was added in beta after his revolver was an actual sniper. You can go test his damage in a game and see he doesnt hit hard at all from a distance. The issue is his stun is impossible to dodge and getting hit by it is a death sentence for everyone but tanks. Who are gonna die after he rolls to reload.
>>339235041
two reinhardts
>>339235041
Game needs a actual patch fixing these issues already.
>>339234745
McCree can snipe
She is literally the worst hero according to gooks
I bet you die to backburner pyros, faggot
>>339235085
The real problem is hanzo
For some reason his arrows always hit the head
>>339234847
>doughnut date
So what, I pick her up at 4 in the morning?
>>339232401
I've seen her played maybe once or twice and she always gets destroyed. What is your major malfunction, anon kun?
>>339234987
So cowadooty shitters pick him too? It's already painful enough to be down two guys
>>339235172
is that based on pro matches? I see roadhogs way more than d.va
>>339235085
>His ult
You mean the thing where he screams really loudly that he's going to kill you, waits a second, and then kills you? if you get killed by that, 95% of the time you fucking deserve it.
>>339235157
He's not useless at range, but he's definitely MUCH less powerful.
>>339232401
There's nothing more satisfying than denying her what she craves.
McCree shits all over Mei.
>>339235172
Does that say worst hero or least popular hero?
>>339235172
>Winston that high
What the fuck
>>339235190
Playing Hanzo?
Can't aim?
No problem! Just press E and fire somewhere next to them!
Our Tear-Seeking Arrows™ will guarantee you a hard earned kill!
>sexualizing women of size
Eugh can you not ??
>>339232889
>>339232967
>>339234821
>Usually play rein
>I move up until enemies start firing
>shield up
>nobody behind me
>Ever
>I can see all 6 enemies
>I know we have attackers who aren't just flankers
>>339235325
The most satisfying thing in the game is killing D.Va. She is the most obnoxious cunt - and I'm not referring to balance.
So why can McCree stun you even when you're not facing his flash? And why can't you jump out of Mei's ult and why does it go through reinhardts shield but her freeze gun doesn't?
>>339235369
Winston is god like.
>jump over enemy team
>supports can do literally nothing as you run them down
>kills McCree
>>339235172
It's character usage, not a ranking of usefulness
>>339232401
>Completely shut the attacking team out on Volskaya as Symmetra
>Get play of the game
>Attacking team whines
>>339235382
E rarely hits, let alone kills the target. I got lucky once in beta and got the triple kill achievement, but I'm lucky to hit anything with it otherwise.
His regular shot is far more reliable.
>>339235414
Where's that picture of D. Va saying 'Get Gud' while smirking when you need it?
>>339235394
>women of size
Top kek
>>339235382
I love picking up Hanzos as Tracer, when you get up close they completely fall apart. Literally Polygon reviewer tier
>>339235146
>and see he doesnt hit hard at all from a distance.
He doesn't have to hit hard if he can unload 6 bullets into you anyway
>>339235406
>play rein
>put shield up
>guaranteed that 95% of the time people will just run through it and ignore you
If your team isn't retarded he is the best tank, but if you're surrounded by morons he is the worst.
>>339235434
Because he's broken as shit?
>>339235369
He hard counters snipers. And since widowmaker is used in every game hes super effective at shutting her out and letting your widowmaker do whatever she likes.
>>339235574
Don't bully the Hanzos, Tracer moves too fast!;_;
>>339235574
>most play time as hanzo
>characters like roadhog and tracer assume that at close range im fucked
>nearly always kill them because they let their guard down
Shit is so satisfying
>>339235302
Competitive matches, yes
>>339235368
>>339235467
Usage in competitive matches is equivalent to power.
In normal games, Winston has extremely low usage. He is a common pick in comp
>>339235369
His power is in disruption, not damage. A coordinated team makes good use of him
>>339235594
If someone runs up to you while you're shielding, and you're not shielding anyone on your team from snipers or whatever, you smack the fuck out of them or line up a charge.
>>339235582
Right click sprays like a shotgun and is only broken if hes close. If you get hit 6 times by his left click from a distance you deserve to die
mei is shit why do we keep having these threads
>>339235594
Yeah, that too. I've literally watched Mccrees and others walk right up through it and immediately get sniped.
I like Rein on defense though, nobody expects the hulk hiding in their sidepaths when they try to flank
>>339235775
Every day until she is nerfed
>>339232515
Ewww shes so fat she cant even wipe properly after a shit, bet she doesnt even shave aswell so its pleb city down there
How about you git gud faggot
>>339235863
shes a character that relies on the enemy team letting her be effective.
you have to WILLINGLY let her kill you to die to her.
how does anybody think shes good.
>Mei isn't fat
Widowmaker is fun but it's painful how hard I get countered by Genjis. He just hits me with shurikens while peeking around walls so fast I can't ever hit him, and if I look at him he just runs at me while reflecting so I can't do anything or shoot him, and I get killed by the dash, or if I hook away I hear him activate his ult and I'm dead in less than a second. Once I see a Genji in the game I usually just switch classes, it's so hopeless.
>>339236010
>you have to WILLINGLY let her kill you to die to her.
This is how retarded you sound
>>339236074
??? are you too retarded to comprehend a basic point ???
example:
widow maker doesn't require the enemy team to fuck up to get kills because she can reach out and touch them.
pharah doesn't need the enemy team to fuck up to get kills because she can reach out and touch them
winston doesn't need the enemy team to fuck up to get kills because he can reach out and touch them
mei is a low dps class that requires you to be isolated and oblivious to her positioning to die to her.
Here is how you balance Mei.
>give her Ice Wall a set amount of health points
Like double or triple whatever Mei's current HP is. If it can be knocked down/demolished prematurely by opponents then it's effectiveness goes down the drain.
>Ice Shield
Make it so that Mei can be damaged during the process but the ice barrier, too, has a set amount of damage it can take before it prematurely expels Mei from her icy tomb.
Alternatively get better and don't commit to attacking Mei unless you know you can fuck shit up and/or you have a team backing you.
>>339235863
She doesn't need nerf, she's like bastion, only good if playing against retards.
If mei is killing you, learn to play fps.
Any reason Genji's ult isnt one slash kill?
At the moment it is quite underwhelming.
>>339236040
If he's reflecting then you can butt him in the goddamn face. That's what I do. Most Genji players I've done against miss their dash and then get mowed down by Widowmaker assault fire. Tracer is the worse harasser by far. I just can't fucking get a bead on her.
>>339236302
it lasts a decent amount of time
>>339236302
EUGENE OKAY OKAY
>>339236245
You can already destroy segments of her wall- people are shitters and lose to mei/bastions all the time
>>339236302
It has pretty good range for a sword, the range is disjointed and he can easily 2 shot most characters.
Reinhardts ult is underwhelming.
>>339236245
I know you're shit and just echoing everyone else because you're unaware to the fact that mei's GREAT WALL does have health and can prematurely break. Mei needs a nerf though
>>339235312
>wait a second
HE CAN WAIT ANY AMOUNT OF TIME
>le high nun xD
>wait 20 seconds
>die instantly
>>339236334
Usually they reflect from outside melee range. The assault rifle does good damage if the Genji is retarded enough to get hit by it, but most of the time they kill me as soon as they're in melee range.
Tracer is annoying, yeah, but at least you can bodyshot her.
>>339236302
Because it lasts quite a while and allows you to cover obscene distances. I've had a Genji follow me into the fucking sky as Pharah and cut me down. It's got range, you don't need to be up somebody's ass to hit them.
>>339232401
>notice my teammate got hooked
>place wall between him and hogwash
>"nice wall! saved my ass"
>>339236231
Dying to Mei = dying to Symmetra or Torb in a 1v1.
Yes it can happen, but you gotta be fucking retarded to let it happen.
>>339236456
>it has health
Good. Lower it so people can stop bitching.
>1v1 in Overwatch
well I guess that can happen if you're a faggot
>>339234847
>Mei will never be your chocolate jam ball
;_;
>>339236490
>lining up a shot as hanzo/widowmaker
>mei on my team puts a wall up just as I shoot
Fuck sake
>>339232401
>WAAAAAAHHHHH I'M SHIT AT THE GAME AND CAN'T BEAT A CHARACTER WITH GLARING WEAKNESSES
>>339236506
Torbs shotgun is stronk what are you on about
Why isn't reindhart (and genji's ult) third person? It's so fucking hard to hit accurately.
>>339236594
> 1v1 in overwatch
you mean like the 1v1s that happen in every team game?
Shes fat
Shes ugly
She speaks like a pig
Shes only good at wasting your time
fuck mei
I bet she has like a pleb farm round round her asshole plump juicy plebs festering round her butthole
>>339233125
>take away all the good parts
>add a shitty version of lucio's gimmick
>fixed
Retards like you are why games get patched to be garbage and die.
>>339236642
If you're a combat class and you lose to Torb in a 1v1 you're a retard.
>>339232515
Damn mommy got cake...
>close range area denial flamethrower character
>give them a sniper rifle for alt weapon
lmao
>>339235574
A wild Tracer has appeared
>arrow -> miss
>fist
>fist
Tracer panics
>fist
Tracer dies
It happens often enough to make me feel like a fucking ninja.
I've actually played a game as Hanzo with 100% melee last hits as an end-of-game card.
Didn't know that card existed; had a hearty laugh.
>>339236506
Symmetra and Torb don't get to instantly kill you if they get the drop on you like Mei does due to you getting frozen to the point of immobility after half a second of getting iced
>>339236719
Maybe they happen 'cause you're a mouthbreathing retard looking for 1v1 and not playing McCree
>>339232515
oh you like that little piggyy.... yeah squeel for my cock.. mmm... i wanna cream you little piggy
As a Reinhardt player, she's a pain in the ass, because I can't kill her before she freezes me, unless I can tackle her.
>>339236912
or they happen because 1v1s are inevitable in team games.
how are you enjoying your first fps? having fun?
>>339236887
I actually fisted/pistol'd a Tracer to death 4 times in one game as Mercy (and made her fuck off about 10 more times on top of those without managing to kill her before she got away). The Tracer was really bad though. It was pretty entertaining getting POTG for punching out Tracer and resurrecting the team.
>>339236962
Just don't run off and 1v1 her and walk backwards, works every time for me and play a good Rein.
>>339236962
she counters Rein, like you said you have to aim and tackle her ass, shes not that bad
>>339236887
I thought melee only does 30 damage? You'd have to land five melee attacks, not three.
>>339234394
>playing competitive
>muh elo
fucking kill yourself you scrawny pale beta cuck
She's the anti-fun character, but you don't fucking care about fun anyway you autistic retard.
>>339235365
mcree shits on everything...
>>339237037
I've had shitty teams, I would need at least half the team to not be ass to actually succeed, due to the Mei players always having additional help. I don't 1v1 her, it's usually like 2v3 or 4, with myself and my friend being the 2.
>>339237097
i think its more the point that shes hard countered by a team with even basic communication, awareness, and understanding of the game.
you need to chill out.
>people want her to take damage through the closest thing she has to an escape
And reaper should take damage during his shadow thing, mcree should take damage while rolling, junkrats mines should hurt him, and the dwarf's turret should target him if no enemy is near that would fix everything :^)
>>339237135
I see, it's good that her gun doesn't go through your shield. Just walk backwards and Meis usually aren't ballsy enough to run thigh your shield, cause they're afraid of dying.
>>339236982
enjoying my 66% winrate
By not going out looking for 1v1
>>339237097
>hurrrr muh fun iz mo important than anyone elses fun or the game bein good y dusnt the other tem just stand still and let me get kills Q_Q
>>339237185
Not him, but he has a point in that Mei is an anti-fun character because of the freeze mechanic. Nobody enjoys playing against Mei except masochists, even a bad Mei is still annoying even if she accomplishes nothing. She just sucks fun out of the game for anyone not playing her.
>>339237038
That actually makes me feel a hell of a lot better.
>on attack team
>2 snipers
>they never change
>neither of them prioritise turrets
I just want to enjoy the game
>>339237303
She takes 4 rein melees, he simply doesn't have enough time to kill her before she freezes unless you open with a fire slash before getting close.
The only OP heroes in this game are McHammer and Widow"I just gave my entire team vision for a year" Maker
>>339233213
>Patreon for this QUALITY
Ofc.
That fucking hand.
>>339237291
The retards bitching they can't 1v1 any hero with their favorite hero are the same kind of retards that picked scout and cried about how they can't solo level 3 engie turrets by running in a straight line at them.
>>339237349
Oh no you have to *GASP* USE YOUR ABILITIES TO WIN A FIGHT?!?!?!?!?! HOW DARE THIS GAME
>>339235574
>play on PS4
>play Tracer
>get bodied by Hanzos left and right
It make no sense. The game's aim assist is barely noticable. Might as well be nonexistent. Hanzos and Widow are ridiculously hard to play.
How do they kill me.
>>339237291
cool.
1v1s happen in all team games though.
remember that time your genji got flashbanged and fanned by mcree and then he got in on your combo and ulted?
thats a lost 1v1 that maybe resulted in a wipe.
glad i could teach you how team fps works.
>>339237476
Nigger I'm stating facts, go shitpost elsewhere.
WHY IS EVERY FUCKING GAME A STOMP
LITERALLY EVERY GAME IS WIN OR LOSE IN 3 FUCKING MINUTES HOLY SHIT
>>339237476
You're assuming A) you hit B) She doesn't wall up C) she doesn't have backup D) you're at full health and E) your team isn't shit if she does have backup.
>>339237523
>It make no sense. The game's aim assist is barely noticable. Might as well be nonexistent. Hanzos and Widow are ridiculously hard to play.
Hanzo's arrows have a hitbox as big as torb
>>339237524
Hey
Remember that time you played Genji and should have been somewhere near the cap so that your team could respond to a broken as shit McCree combo?
>>339237061
Melee is 50. Reinhart's is 75
>>339237623
nope, 0 hours on genji literally.
why are you intentionally missing the point
arguing an absolute point of > muh never 1v1 ever in MY team games
despite the fact they obviously do happen, and are usually decisive moments.
odd, anyway not going to bother replying to you any further.
maybe you need to do some growing up buddy.
have a good one.
>>339235434
Because stun grenades aren't flashbangs, they are concussive blasts.
Also because Mei's ult is an AOE and isn't line of sight and is placed on the ground while her gun is aimed.
>>339235172
>>339235692
These aren't tier list, these are just statistics. A tier list would be a combination of statistics and theory. Tier lists are subjective and that's why there are many of them.
>>339237606
I dunno, man.
I've shot arrows that literally scraped their character and got no hit. I think the hit boxes are small and tight as FUCK
>>339237673
Shit, I'll have to start using melee.
>>339237701
ok buddy
I'm saying that 1v1 only happens when shitters go looking for shitter plays
Or get caught out of position because they're shitters
And that they shouldn't happen in a team game because only shitters make them happen
But that's okay
You too, bud.
>>339237198
>and the dwarf's turret should target him if no enemy is near
Oh my lol
What the fuck was Blizzard thinking by adding TWO characters that can remove control from other players?
There's a reason the Natasha was nerfed hard multiple times until it was just reworked entirely. Removing control from enemy players is too damn powerful.
Bliz ripped off TF2 but didn't even pay attention to its development history.
Worst part is that if you try to discuss Mei's balance, faggots at Bliz will just snark at you because Mei is the game's secondary mascot and console kiddies will say "oh Mei sucks" because of control differences between versions
>>339237294
The team designing Mei:
"We should give her a gun that can freeze opponents"
"OK cool, and let's make it so she can 1-shot frozen opponents too"
"Yeah, that's great, make sure to have the freeze last longer than any other stun in the game"
"How about we make the freeze apply basically immediately?"
"That sounds good. What are you thinking for abilities?"
"I dunno, how about a heal with like a wall or something, and uh, hey we could make her have one that can freeze everyone near her"
"We should make her pretty tanky too honestly, wouldn't want her to be able to die"
"Fuckin ship it boys"
>>339235172
Why is there no A tier?
>>339237198
BAMF already takes damage from rolling. I've been trying to get myself to just eat the reload all night because every time I roll I'm rolling straight into a stray arrow or something so my body gets flung across the stage at 200mph.
>>339232401
They need to buff Symettra.
Her basic left click beam is useless in in 1v1. Her right click is literally the Mooninite tier, if it hits you deserve to die.
And everything one hits your turrets, and they have a massive cooldown even though your heavily reliant on them 90% of the time to do any sort of meaningful damage.
In most matches your turrets are only good placed in places they can't be shot like on ledges above doors, but a smart player will still just one shot them taking minor damage unless your in a team fight with something else drawing aggro.
>>339237946
You legitimately have autism and a sub 100 IQ.
she sucks
if you're gonna spam icicles just fucking play mccree and actually contribute
>>339237921
do you really not understand the difference between a game thats been out for a decade
and a game thats been out a week?
> why didn't they learn from valves development history
because it's a different game thats been out a week jesus christ.
why didn't Africa learn from the development history of Europe and make more industry and money?
are there actually people this dumb?
>>339232401
Sure, as soon as they nerf Reinhardt, Winston, Genji, and Tracer.
>>339235414
It's not even just the character, but the people who play her
>>339237987
I don't have a problem with symmetra except her turrets. Like I guess the idea is that the turrets slow them while you chase after them with your death beam but they take way too long to activate. And like you said you need all 6 of them in one place so that they don't all die immediately, and they'll all die immediately anyway if the other team has anyone with an explosive.
>>339237606
>Hanzo's arrows have a hitbox as big as torb
I fucking knew those hitboxes were some bullshit.
>>339238058
You're a retard
The difference between the development of nations and the development of modern video games is that the fucking internet exists and you can look that shit up
have you never studied for a test or cited something in an essay? I'm surprised you can even read
Overwatch is highly derivative of TF2. Ignoring TF2s development history and smugly defending their mistakes is amateur shit on blizzards part
>>339237946
She's also really fucking slow move speed wise. She packs lots of utility but not speed.
>>339234947
She can wall to block sniper los though
So in that sense she's a counter to snipers since she allws your team to move up
>>339238090
Rein is amazing
>>339238090
>the Rein doesn't even die
>>339238090
I really hope they were streaming
>>339238259
i'm baffled you sat there and wrote that
and genuinely thought it was a counter argument.
> it's like citing in an essay.
????
is this what highschools are producing today?
i cant even be bothered to google search
just picture me pinching between my eyes in exasperation at how dumb your reply was.
>>339238326
This nigga gets it.
>>339237946
Did you think that was funny
>>339237946
It's like Robin Walker's favoritism for the Soldier resulting in him getting shitloads of weapons and balance changes rarely ever coming out, except instead of it being a case of class favoritism its waifufaggotry
>>339237987
Her M1 takes time to ramp up but it can destroy, especially if you're chasing a retard who doesn't know how to melee. Her turrets should activate sooner and have a bigger range like torb's does considering the piss poor damage they do and how quickly they go down. Her M2 goes through shields, so just use it on dumb reins. Her E should give more shields than 25. 25 really just helps tracer
>>339238090
Oh my fuck I wasn't expecting that.
>>339238174
Exactly. I've played her several times, and the only time I've had it work well is when I paired up with a Torbjorn and amassed our turrets at a choke point.
Even then we killed like 3 people before someone shot a rocket into our shit, killing the majority of my turrets while his lasted another shot.
I basically just kept rebuilding the stupid things the whole game, I tried replacing them in a thousand different places. Nothing really helped against the skilled players, they would just clean up and move on to kill me since I couldn't do fuck all her with her skill set 1v1.
She seems heavily reliant on the rest of the team, once your alone it's over.
They need to decrease the cooldown, boost the health of the turrets and herself, and possibly make her Voidray beam do more damage when she is fighting someone on her own or simply boost the speed at which it ramps. That charged shot needs a lot of changes, not even going into that.
She was the only character I played who made me feel underpowered to the point of feeling useless.
>>339234847
Why did she wipe shit on her nose?
>tumblr
Never mind.
>>339238469
>I can't even bother to google search
Yeah and neither did blizzard
Overwatch was in closed beta for nearly half a year, moron. They had plenty of time to get player feedback re: stun weapons and they did nothing about it
Not to mention Mei was an incredibly late addition to the roster and is entirely unchanged from the day she was added.
If the games not finished don't fucking launch it and don't put waifufaggots on the Dev team that will play favorites
>>339238508
Tracer, Soldier 76, Zarya and Zenyatta all benefit a lot from it.
>>339238090
>xbox
RARE
>>339237623
>genji
>near the cap
his job his to run on roofs and fuck up snipers/backline squishies, not to sit under the cap point
if you see your genji once, and that includes being back at spawn, he's fucking bad
>>339238508
Again though, an ability shouldn't be set to effectively kill clueless retards only. Right now all of her moves only kill news who are dumb or ignorant enough to sit and take it.
I literally could not kill a unsuited D. VA with her, D. VA busted me down long before my beam could do substantial damage.
>>339234705
got my shit pushed in by a full torbjörn team on hanamura last night, the first point was easy to take but the fucking second point...
that fucking range on those fucking turrest could even walk near the temple without getting targeted by atleast three turrets
>mfw I will forever have nightmares of a bunch of swedish dwarves yelling MOLTEN COOOOOOOOOORE at me
>>339238618
>is entirely unchanged from the day she was added.
>>339238618
wow you mean blizzard didn't just google search development suggestions for their unique IP that they made themselves and released 1 week ago?
you mean thats NOT how the world works?
wowwwwww
you mean development is usually tailored to the IP and the developers wim? and not just carbon copy from a COMPLETELY different IP?
wowww man ur blowing my fucking mind jesus christ
>>339232401
The fun part about overwatch threads is that the people playing overwatch deserve nothing but scorn, and shit on their plate. Yet they bitch and moan about their awful game as if somebody should actually care about them.
Honestly, you are playing the most casual, pointless, and low-skill shooter to come out in the past 5 years.
Even Battlefield Heroes required more skill than this garbage.
>>339238742
>tfw I've got a 87% win rate as that stunty bastard and I only ever play him on Hanamura
his just too good there. The turret has the range of the entire room so it's very difficulty for people to peak it. Combine that with good damage on his rivet gun his pretty great. Plus once your team gets rolling you'll be shitting out 75 armour packs
>>339238742
Reminds me of that full McRee game I came up against last night. It was high noon all game.
>>339238090
Out fucking played.
>>339238742
They need to nerf the turrets. Torb can build them too fast, and very frequently. Also, they need to have about half a second of recognition before it starts shooting, like the tf2 sentry gun.And maybe have it reset the recognition every time tracer teleports, to make her a hard torb counter and pseudo bonk scout.
>>339238824
They made a TF2 competitor. It only makes sense to study their competitor's development history to not make the mistakes they made.
"Standing on the shoulders of giants." Look it up.
>>339238952
the turrets are killed easily enough by peaking widows, hanzos, pharahs and junkrats. Torb main job is to counter flankers, so it's no surprise that the turret wrecks tracers.
>>339237701
>Pshhhhh nothing personal kid
>>339238561
>Even then we killed like 3 people before someone shot a rocket into our shit, killing the majority of my turrets while his lasted another shot.
Junkrat is the bane of my existence as a Symmetra player. If he's on the opposite team there's just no point in using Symmetra.
>>339238952
>Bliz fucked something up that TF2 got right on launch in 2007
wooooooooow
>>339238954
yeah look thats really not how it works at all.
you seem to have a very odd world view on this.
> why didn't you just copy everything they did when you developed the game.
every game goes through its own development lifecycle.
because its a team fps does not mean it needs the same balancing as tf2.
you can argue
> it's just tf2 2.0!
all you want, but you're just being a memetard or you hate the game in which case why do you care.
>>339238561
My only success is putting turrets into rooms with health packs to pick off people like Pharah or Tracer who always run around with a tiny sliver of HP left. Then just suicide at the enemy team like a bad Mei/Winston to build up my ultimate.
The teleport is almost worth it but it's kind of dumb how your character always announces it even if there's no way they could see it. It just tells you to start hunting/spawn camping your team. Also if you build up her ultimate it just adds time to the first teleporter you built which is the stupidest thing ever. And there's no way to tell how long its going to last.
>>339238090
>just launching it aimlessly, not even into a chokepoint
lol he seriously expected potg
>>339239094
Is tf2 the predecessor to hero shoters?
>>339239115
He was doing it more for the kill cam. I've seen a Genjo do something similar onthe quadruple.
>>339232401
shes not overpowered youre just really bad
there is only one broken character in ebinwatch, and its McLe
>>339239183
That's not spousedestroyer
>>339235059
skill
hitscan sniper
people have chosen which one they want in their game
>>339232401
Keep your distance, switch to mobile heroes, dumbass.
>>339239165
nope, tf2 is a class based team fps.
a genre that had existed for a couple decades before it released.
>>339239087
Honestly so far he doesn't seem anywhere near as powerful as a Engineer in TF2.
I don't know how many matches I played by simply finding a cozy corner and just setting up a dispenser and a turret and wait for the conga line to roll through and get like a 30/1 score every match.
Honestly Bastion is the fucked up broken piece of shit Turret. He can self heal and turn into a mobile rocket turret and then get back up instantly and chase your ass down and continue being the best turret he can be elsewhere.
>>339239039
Not with torb hammering away in the background. If you're within the 40m range when you peek out, you're losing hp immediately.
>>339239183
>>339239258
3 characters are GOD TIER
McCree
Widowmaker
Lucio
>200 health
>rifle charges almost instantly and can be spammed
>gets a poison mine to detect when people are near
>can spam full auto when people are near
>instantly kills half the cast
>crazy mobility
>literal fucking wallhacks for an ult with no indicator for the other team
how fucked up on meth were blizz when they created this abomination?
>>339239318
>healing your turret
>instead of using your gun to fuck shit up
you're playing torb wrong. Turret does 54 dps, gun does 150
>>339239094
You're the retard. Team Fortress 2 is the most highly successful team based shooter on PC and it clearly had a massive influence on Overwatch in terms of game balance, character design, and character abilities. It takes one hour to go through TF2's commentary mode and to say "oh shit that makes a lot of sense, we should do that."
It takes two seconds to look on your feedback forums and to read when people are saying "this is a problem and someone else already found a solution"
When you get a paper cut do you devise an original solution to your problem? Do you try to superglue the wound shut because it was YOUR idea? No, you sanitize the wound with a well established antibacterial sanitizer and you put a bandaid on it because it's been long established that that is what works.
Go to hell
Reminder that there's no point in playing characters that aren't Pharah, Tracer, D.Va, Mei, Mercy, or Widowmaker
>>339239183
McCree is ability broken. Zenyatta is skill broken.
>>339239305
There are few maps that allow you access to completely skull fucking Bastion players. And even then if the damage isn't sufficient he'll just heal himself.
That heal should have a health limit ala Mei's ice barrier regen and he shouldn't be able to do it while in Turret form. Wanna heal? Back to bot form. Of course this won't happen.
>>339238797
>literally only buffs
>>339239105
I've done that. Setting traps is literally your only real option, be it using item drop locations or simply holding up in a corner and waiting for some asshole to come plowing through the corner to their death.
>>339239415
>highly successful team based shooter on PC
argument broke in the first sentence.
good try, back to the drawing boards.
>>339239432
>pharah
>aka dies in one to hit anything
>>339239305
Bliz fucked up by trying to split the builder class in to multiple heroes.
They ESPECIALLY fucked up by making Symmetra's teleporter her ult
>>339238090
Reinhardt is so awesome.
>>339239318
a torb who is doing nothing but hammering his turret is little more than useless. And he doesn't out heal a proper peaker, believe me, i've tried. And this is assuming you've got it in a place that leaves you in cover while hammering it. If not you're an easy kill
>>339239415
> Team Fortress 2 is the most highly successful team based shooter on PC
Team Fortress 2 is one highly successful team based shooter in PC.
That's the point and is also why what you're trying to argue is so stupid.
If you want to be a pedant about this why aren't you saying it ripped off Quake Wars.
>>339234745
his 1shot works usually out up to about 5 meters, 10 at the most extreme, and if enemy is at half health it can work at mid range with fan le hammur
hes not great at longer ranges, but hes better than almost every other hero
>>339234790
if you died to mei as McCree reaper or tracer you need to uninstall right now, you are the loser that is dragging down my team
>>339235458
>mccree presses e anywhere within 5 meters of you
>mccree right clicks shifts then right clicks
>720 damage and no skill required
other than that yeah winston is god
>>339239484
Please, oh king retard, who superglues paper cuts shut and masturbates by aggressively squeezing his own testicles because those are the methods HE came up with HIMSELF, do explain the how calling TF2 a team based shooter and comparing it to Overwatch invalidates fucking anything
>>339239305
He's a bit different from engie in his playstyle. I think blizzard wanted to encourage leaving your turret instead of making a nest. His ult makes him a lot more fearsome by himself, with the upgraded rivet gun and armor. The only offensive power engie got was the frontier justice.
>>339239379
>>339235059
Are you guys the retards who keep choosing Widowmaker on offense?
the problem with McCree is that he has no hard counter at all
if mccree had a counter his pick rate wouldnt be around 100%
>>339234947
>Tracer beats Mei
In what fucking dimension m8?
Mei is a hard counter to any mobility based characters.
>It's a /v/ whines about a literally bottom tier character being OP episode
>>339239706
blink & rewind
>>339238608
Are you so fucking retarded that you don't know what noses do in cold weather?
>>339239701
he has no counter because CC is utter fucking cancer in a shooter. and his comes out instantly and has AoE.
>a character that is deadly at range and also you cant get near them or you die instantly
top notch game design
>>339239408
>>339239592
>route 66
>set up in tunnel
>LoS sniper
>keeps trying to fullcharge turret
>can't keep up with the hammer
>turret keeps getting kills
Fuck y'all, the rivet gun has higher dps, but the turret never misses.
>>339238952
Torb counters Tracer. And that's a good thing since no one else does besides a Ree around a corner.
>>339239468
Can you even read?
>>339239379
I don't understand why she needs to be fantastic no matter what range she is. If I'm not playing winston or d.va and get the drop on her there's a 50/50 chance she just kills me anyway. And it's just insulting when you get behind enemy lines so she just drops down, shoots you to death, and then flies back to her perch that's totally unreachable by anyone but her and pharah.
>>339237956
Because A would be 80-100%, of which there are no heroes in that range.
>>339239802
>Are you so fucking retarded that you don't know what noses do in cold weather?
Yeah, they turn red. They don't get shit smeared on them like in the image.
>>339239706
Tracer absolutely shits on Mei
>>339239807
Why did you just describe McCree?
>>339239484
I get that you're an autist and think that TF2 is bad, but even the most brainless of mongoloids can acknowledge that it's highly successful. Successful doesn't necessarily mean good, look at CoD
>>339239891
why did you post?
>>339239664
>relying on hanzo to reliably kill bastion and turrets
He's only good for loosing arrows into a crowd and hoping auto-aim does the work for him.
>>339239985
Because i wanted to know why you just described McCree when talking about Mei
>>339240008
Hey that sonar is mildly useful.
>>339240020
ill let you think about your mistake for a second
>>339239814
>mei
>reaper
>lucio
Anyone else feel like they're the only ones using Pharahs concussive rocket? Like at all?
>>339240113
My B
>>339237987
just got this, (offense Numbani) it's a shame that the only good parts of her kit are her secondary fire and teleport
putting a shield on zenyatta makes him playable though so there's a big advantage
in the game in question I barely used her sentries at all, they're absolute ass
She doesn't need buffs, she needs to be re-tooled so she's fun
>>339240137
The only thing in that list that might counter tracer is reaper. If you get countered by mei or lucio you should stop playing tracer
>>339239891
Any character that has abilities to block mccrees flash or stun him is a counter. i.e. Mei, Zarya, Genji, Roadhog. Not even including characters that can instant kill him from a distance like Widowmaker or Hanzo. There's also tracer that can kill him pretty quickly if you aim at the head while he's not focused on you.
>tfw you're done with overtime
>>339240141
A lot of people use it, but not a lot of people use it well. Most people use it just to use it, instead of botching escape attempts, getting environmental deaths, fucking up ults and clearing the objective.Granted, you do need to have good aim and reflexes.
>>339240008
>needing a sniper just to kill a turret
just have anyone backed up by mercy and its a free turret, or with a reinhardt/dva standing in your front
>bastion
even easier to kill, unless his team is protecting him, in which case i dont see how widowmaker can shoot through a reinhardt shield thats protecting bastion
>>339240141
I find myself getting killed by it constantly, so no.
>>339236490
>Playing Rein
>Pin a Junkrat against a corner
>My teammate Mei puts a wall up and traps me in the corner with him and his death grenades
>>339240249
Best fucking feeling, especially while defending.
>>339234947
CRUSADER ONLINE!
>>339240221
>mei
>slowdown, entire team kills you
>lucio
>passive healing, not enough damage output unless you're point blank 100% accuracy
>>339239305
>playing Torbjorn like a TF2 engie
TOrbjorn is a pretty good damage character on his own, you should only be occasionally going back to your turret to give it some more health, the rest of the time you should be supporting your team and picking up scrap for those delicious armor drops/building ult for the I win button.
>>339235190
Always aim at head height. Get lots of head shots.
I wonder what kind of balance changes we will see.
Obviously there is a lot of bitching about certain heroes, but its hard to balance everything at every skill level.
Bastion literally wrecks new players but is only useful for ambushes and taking out a reinhardt shield at higher levels of play.
Then you have a character like tracer who dies to everything when you don't know what your doing.
>>339240141
I mostly use it to knock myself forward while leaving spawn.
>>339239706
"I used all my blinks and rewind was on cooldown when I ran into that Mei!"
The post.
>>339240235
>zarya
her shield lasts 2 seconds so good luck
>reinhardt
if your throw the grenade just above his shield it stuns him (totally fucking ridiculous)
>roadhog
free kill
>mei
free kill
>genji
free kill
mccree is by far the stupidest character
>>339240137
>mei
tracer outranges her
Also I heard the recall resets freezing progress
>reaper
again outranged and therefore out dpsed
>lucio
Maybe. I play Mercy only and rarely anyone picks him with me on the team.
>>339232401
>fat
>overpowered
har har
>>339240141
yes. as long as its used correctly like >>339240235 said you can fuck shit up. my favourite is stopping people from getting away and blowing their ass up
>>339240271
>implying
TRhe direction they are launched is fucking inconsistent as all hell, I mostly use the concussive blast to drive them in a corner for a free direct, even trying to blast them off is finicky because if they go in a direction you weren't expecting you might end up helping them.
"I'll take mei counters for 500, Alex."
"These three heroes are notorious flankers, one with a very powerful timed explosion ultimate and a dash with up to 3 charges, the other uses shotguns akimbo and has a powerful dispel as well as two separate movement abilities, this last hero wields a 6 shot revolver, and a signature aoe medium range stun"
"What is 'making another mei thread on 4chan?'"
"I'm sorry OP but that is not the correct answer, maybe next time when you're less of such a fucking faggot."
>>339240232
>fucking Junkrat
I have two complaints about this cunt
1)How the fuck is he a defense hero? He outdamages offense Heroes
2) Remove those fucking Grenades he drops when he dies
>>339240360
if you get caught by mei as tracer you should stop playing
literally just warp out of it, and then proceed to attack her as she can do absolutely nothing. tracer takes a fat shit on mei.
>already nerfed
>Strong but situational pick
>Meanwhile zarya is the most overpowered character in the game after widow vut you shitters wont ever understand the game enough to realize this
>Theyll remain broken forever
>>339240274
>playing against scrubs
Turret + a whole team is far too much dps for rein or d.va to handle with their abilities. A sniper can kill a turret from safety in 3-4 shots.
>>339240508
fuck i meant to quote >>339240271 i should go to bed now
>>339240563
wtf is going on all my quotes are getting changed when i post pls help hiroshima i swear im clicking on the right ones
>>339240508
Because the Demoman was a defense class.
A fat woman is OP in a game.
Coming up next: black Muslim lesbian in a wheelchair is super strong character in blizzards next game.
Hey guys aren't we progressive! Please buy our game.
>>339240508
He's a defense hero because he's best utilized walking backwards. Moving forwards with those slow ass nades is a good way to turn a corner into an enemy and kill him AND yourself. Also, the bear trap is perfect for getting rid of flanking attackers.
>>339240532
>fucking zarya
Yeah man I love having my damage tied to the enemy team being stupid enough to fire on a person with shields, or explosive ults.
>/v/ suddenly loves blizzard and it's games
WHAT THE FUCK. IS GOING ON HERE.?
>Mcree
Flashbang is a flashbang and not a stun
>Widowmaker
Bodyshot damage down to 100
>Mei
Endothermic blaster no longer stuns targets just slows them down
>Tracer
Longer cooldown on blink, increase health to 200
>Lucio
Reduce movement speed while using healing aura
>Hanzo
Slow movement speed like Dva while drawing bow.
>>339240502
They're launched outwards from the point of explosion. Latency may be a factor in where they are serverside at that point.
>>339240508
He can double as an attacker via the flank. Shit is hilarious when you get behind the team with a concussion jump and they don't catch on until they're almost dead.
>>339240475
I never mentioned rein for that reason. McCree counters rein. Practice with the characters i listed and you'll be able to kill mccree. Especially one that mashes E on first sight.
>>339240475
>genji
>free kill
In what universe? Genji gets to flashbang McCrees.
>>339240353
Hooking people mid flight is great. This one wasn't particularly skillful, but still satisfying.
>>339240751
Yeah, but again it's a bit fucked by the attack being a projectile. You have to hope they keep going where you see them going. I'd use them more intelligently if they were buffed to do a little damage, that way I'd have a nice fast damage dealer for those bastards left at half a bar after my magazine is empty.
>>339240532
>zarya is the most overpowered character in the game
What the shield only lasts 2 seconds. The damage is nice but only when you get shit on by people dumb enough to unload into your shield.
Unless you mean the Ult which is the slowest charging in the game and really only works well with another Ult.
>>339240847
>any hooks
>skillful
the hit box on that thing is ridiculous
>>339240707
I hope no one in charge of balancing will ever listen to you
>>339240816
you are not going to reflect a flashbang m8 sorry
it doesnt even need to be in your direction to stun you anyway
>>339240529
If the mei is alone, then they're a bad mei.
If you're slowed as t racer around 2 or more enemies, you're fucked.
>>339240475
I agree, except for genji
>bounce back the stun and slice through him and you've escaped, maybe can turn back and get a kill depending on how much you've whittled him down beforehand
i really cant think of anyone else that can deal with mcree, maybe junkrat if you can keep enough range and stop his gapclosing roll with a trap
>>339240915
Oh Anon, I do it all the time. McCree just can't resist the urge to blind himself.
>>339240926
McCree doesn't need to actually hit genji with the flashbang to stun him
In fact, I'm not sure I've ever been directly hit by a McCree flashbang
if they nerf mcree I'm literally asking for a refund. STOP SUGGESTING THIS YOU RETARDS
>>339240847
>tfw popping my shield on zarya after getting hooked
Its basically a free kill on roadhog since your shotgun puts me at 100% power.
>>339240972
It's the reason why I now hesitate on using my flash until im sure his deflect is on cooldown.or flash his feet
>>339240847
God I wish I was that accurate with Mako's hook. Half the time it feels like a 30/70 chance for me to grab anything unless it's ten feet in front of me.
>>339240972
he's not wrong, you can easily flashbang a genji without actually hitting him. But most McCrees don't seem to be aware of it yet, so usually a genji can deflect->dash and then kill a McCree easily enough
>>339240926
Just lob grenades at him while he tries to roll. It doesn't give him invulnerability frames. Also, them Martyr kills on McCrees that get in your face.
>>339241006
>waah I can't rightclick and win anymore
I'm tired of every Mcree card being fan the hammer kills making up the majority of his eliminations.
>>339241006
What a surprise. A casual game brings in casuals who cant deal with McCree.
>>339241081
So is the problem fan the hammer or flashbang?
I wonder if they could just nerf his m2 and fix all the problems with him eliminating every class in a flashbang stun.
>>339241081
Fan the hammer is McCree's schtick. I don't know why people get so pissy over it. It's like getting mad when a sniper picks you off.
>>339240889
Some are slightly better than others.
>>339241018
Zarya fucks roadhog because not only does her shield block the hook, but she can shield after you hook and you can't kill her. Add to that the fact that she can shield her allies, and she's pretty obnoxious. Mostly I just try to avoid her, or hook her if I see her shield drop.
>>339241046
I'm only 50% accuracy overall. Some games better, some a lot worse.
>>339241006
He does more damage than most ults nigga and comes with a free win button.
>>339241109
>a casual game based on counterpicking and teamplay
>one hero with no counter
Can't imagine why people are angry about it.
>>339241180
Put fan the hammer on a cooldown like Lucio's right click and it'd be perfect imo
Doesn't even need to be a long cooldown, even like 4 or 5 seconds
>>339241196
Snipers have to aim to pick you off, and they don't do 320 damage with a bodyshot.
>>339241180
Both together. One is going to have to get toned down.
>>339240889
Even though it's hitscan, its "grab" is delayed, so it has to be aimed ahead. That always takes some amount of guesswork and luck
>>339241059
>>339240985
you see, genji is typically going to be running/doublejumping forward at the mcree, so its very easy to intentionally run into the flashbang if he tries to aim it off to the side/above, since it curves upward
that being said, the genji definitely needs to be fucking good just to beat it, while the mcree can be braindead and win if the genji fucks up at all
>>339241180
fan is the bigger problem i think
way too much damage and he can do it twice if he rolls
>>339241196
a sniper picking you off usually requires a modicum of skill considering only 2 players die to a body shot.
McCree can spin a full 360 and still get a kill with his right click because only 3 out of 6 bullets need to hit to kill a huge portion of the roster. And all of that, usually, while you can't respond or attempt any attempt at dodging.
>>339241242
>this triggers the widowmaker
>>339241196
Most snipers can't accidentally get two kills
the number of times i've been killed by a stray bullet or somebody just passing behind me has died in my killcam I couldn't count
>>339241242
Still probably more accurate than I am. Can Winston alter the trajectory of the pull by leaping before hand?
How does a mortal man handle all this thicc?
>>339241291
Except he does, you're all just really bad or as I mentioned before: Casual
>>339236302
because you aren't locked in place when you use it.
>>339241420
Who?
>>339241180
>increase reload animation time
>remove reload from dodge roll
>slow walking speed during fan the hammer
Fan the hammer shouldn't be viable as a spammable 1v1 tactic.
>>339233125
Why post a pic of my boy SteveandCreepers?
>>339241347
she fucking noosed herself
>>339241420
Your right his counter is having a better Mcree.
>>339236414
>Use Earthshatter on the entire enemy team
>My whole team does nothing and I get maybe two kills out of it before they all get back up and shoot me
Every time
>Mei Overpowered
>Not D.Va
winky face
>>339241304
>hugging mccrees dick enough for where he doesnt need to aim
It's your own fault
>>339241368
Whenever you hook someone they just stop in their tracks and get stunned, so how quickly they're moving doesn't matter (although I've had tracers disjoint the hook with dash, and reapers phase after getting hit by it). All that really matters is the terrain, and it's super inconsistent. If you're on stairs, I find it pulls them behind you pretty often, and people sometimes will get pulled through walls and other times not. Figuring out where to aim after an odd-angled pull can help you get a lot more one shots.
>>339232401
She shouldn't be able to do a fucking hundred and ninety damage.
Old TF2 > Splatoon > (powergap) > Overwatch > Modern TF2
What other post-2006 arena fps are worth adding into the list?
my dad works at blizzard entertainment and I have confirmation that mcree and tracer are getting removed from the game completely in the next patch.
>>339241486
>fire singularity charge and grab the whole team with it.
>reinhardt literally gets every kill and play of game with one hammer swing.
I don't understand potg at all.
>>339232401
Or we can nerf something with the Bastion/Reinhardt that is making up 90% of the meta.
>>339241507
Dva is a shitposter in every way
She's worthless, she's a drain 100% of the time anybody picks her, and she's slightly harder to kill than a normal character
I can 1v1 Dvas as fucking Lucio, her crit zone is so big.
>>339241518
And then there's this hook, which I guess hit him through the railing, despite bouncing off. Promptly died though.
>>339241420
If you're going to make posts like this could you at least give advice
"you're doing it wrong" is not helpful in any way when not accompanied with tips or advice
>>339241456
here >>339240475
There's also 76
>>339241557
Ain't there speculation involving proximity to the object in it?
>>339236953
Are you talking like demoman
is that demoman
are you demoman
>>339241530
What about MNC?
>>339241516
Oh, sorry I walked into a corridoor without using my aimbot to check if there was a mcree in the general vicinity.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10339535
>>339241601
>76
Oh yeah, because mediocre all range damage counters a character with no bad engagement range. Tell me more how 76 might hit shots that a Mcree can't.
sometimes i forget modern /v/ is just a less moderated meme-filled version of gamefaqs. thanks for the reminder
>all these gifs of console gameplay
>its slow as fuck
I played the beta on PS4. I have no idea how anyone can play it on console.
>>339241593
God that probably confused the hell out of the enemy team. I should give him another spin in a few games after I get my aim up with bots.
>>339241624
Isn't it and Tribes:Shazbot dead?
What were they even thinking pulling that bullshit? SMNC should've never been made.
>>339241626
You could also use sound. He's as loud as a reinhardt. The game shouldnt need to hold your hand
>>339235172
Gooks don't know how to spook. America does.
>>339240361
I actually really like how Torbjorn plays. I don't get so invested in my one sentry because it doesn't cost anything to upgrade it, and I'm not constantly hunting for scrap to upgrade everything else too. It's like playing gunslinger engie except a bit more powerful.
>>339241626
Nah bro, gotta ask your teammates if there's a McCree around every single corner you go to.
Get to a corner, stop what you're doing and go "Hey team, there a McCree around this corner?" They answer yes? You fuck off.
Or you can play Genji and PREDICT THE FUTURE, REFLECT THE FLASHBANG
>>339241710
And what would the alternative be? Retreat? Because "Just run away" doesn't work, Mcree has a left click that does 70 damage.
>>339235325
That Mei completely misplayed. One bad Mei != All Mei
>>339241559
That's the pubstomp tactic, not the meta, at a higher level nobody bothers doing that shit because there are so many ways to beat it
>>339241680
McCree has falloff at 30m. If you actually aim better you could kill him. Especially with the helix rockets and your health regen AND hitscan automatic weapon. It's embarrassing to die to a mccree with 76 at range
>>339241760
How about you play with your team
>>339241804
So let's say I land my shots and even direct him with the helix. So he ducks into a building and he's invincible again. I can't chase him, after all
>>339241518
that's because they this weird thing where they give priority to whatever the shooter see's as opposed to the target
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTH2ZPgYujQ
>>339241680
to be fair, 76 does counter McCree at medium range. McCree starts getting fall off damage and helix rockets + heal fucking wreck him.
Now, anywhere within flash bang is an automatic death.
>>339241564
Dva has a different playstyle than other tanks, people usually don't play her right as a result.
Being able to delete all projectiles coming at you or your team is a crazy ability. Makes her even better at rushing down Bastions than Reinhardt.
She works best as an off-tank played more like Tracer. An annoying harasser that pisses off the enemy so much they want to go for you regardless of anything. Her cannons don't do much at a distance, but that constant damage ticking away still makes people want to kill you. And when they do, you have a second wind with a pretty good pistol, assuming you're not a moron and stuck with your team so they can cover you.
>>339241861
The counter for Mcree shouldn't be "Fight him with more than one person". He has no 1v1 counter.
>>339241893
He would be dead if you did. Do you think he has reinhardt health? Dont follow him into his habitat, that would be common sense.
>>339234603
i think that an ability where it clearly shows him shooting to the sides should fucking shoot infinitely directly above him as well and also dat range is pretty crazy as well
>>339241943
Except he does. Your brain would be one.
>>339242025
He would if his flashbang was on cooldown, maybe.
Get a life and stop playing shit games instead
>>339242118
My brain doesn't let me tank through a flashbang.
>>339241943
Genji isn't half bad. Time it right and you can reflect his flash bang
>>339232889
>hurr this chracter isn't op you just need a coordinated team focused on killing her
Literally no other chracter is like this, at all.
>>339242119
What would his flashbang being on cooldown have to do with you hitting your shots? We're still talking about medium range engagement. Not CQC
the only nerf Mei needs is less ammo. 200 is way too much and lasts way too long. 150 would balance her.
>>339242178
Here's a joke, his flashbang doesn't actually need to be thrown at you to stun you.
>>339237673
no. melee is 30.
>>339235312
this
literally the only time i've ever been killed by mccree ult is when i accidentally walk into his line of site and he already has it like almost ready to go, so that boils down to being a shitter on my part not him being op ya'll niggas fucking suck dick at this game
>>339237523
>play on ps4
>>339242119
I think you misinterpreted his post. He's saying that if you hit all your shots and direct hit him with your helix, McCree would already be dead.
why don't you just choose pharah and kill mcree from a mile above his head? he can't flashbang or fan you from way up there, and you can kill him faster than he can kill you with revolver shots, there's your 1v1 mcree kill
>>339237523
>Play on PS4
>Change the horizontal sensitivity to 60 and vertical to 30
>Suddenly the game's fine
>>339232401
Mcree and Mei have the same problem, both can completely immobilise their opponent, and being completely immobilized in a fast paced shooter isn't fun.
>>339242419
that's assuming you saw the McCree from mid-range, which is not what anyone is complaining about.
>>339240008
>auto-aim
fuck off
>>339242419
>floating slowly above him
asking for a headshot
>>339235414
W I N K Y F A C E
>>339241696
I think he's pretty bad for competitive, but a lot of fun for pubs.
>>339240508
He's defense because of his left shift pushing people back, you ethier juggle people trying to get onto a point or throw them off the cart.
mei is completely beaten by simple communication. she needs to freeze anyone to actually accomplish anything. which is why she is at near 0% pick rate in comp. and if you're just doing icicles then you might as well play Mc "i have no weakness" Cree.
>try D.Va for the first time
>play 5 matches with her
>always get play of the game
>play of the game is always me blowing up my mech and die before it explodes
>>339242489
There's this idiot. >>339234895
>>339242681
At least mcree kills you quickly when you're immoblized, also who gives a shit about comp
>>339242764
McCree does have damage falloff
>>339242771
There are plenty in this thread who idolize the MLG pros.
>>339242771
its just an example of what people play when they actually give a fuck.
>>339242837
I know, he doesnt but he complains about his range
>>339242475
>Mcree and Mei have the same problem
Mei doesn't have an instant aoe stun or the ability to remove tanks in a second.
>>339235414
Think about what type of subhumans play her and you'll realize why it's so satisfying.
>>339232401
Get a Junkrat
>>339242771
Comp is basically able to diagnose problems in the main game
Is a character absolutely ubiquitous in comp? Probably needs a nerf.
>>339242898
It's not fun to be stunned, this is why people don't like mei or mcree.
Numbers are not the sole factor of whether something is fun
>>339242890
okay, should i have said "Which is not what anyone with a non-ignorant opinion is complaining about"? I'm not sure what you're getting on me about.
>>339242771
because if somebody shits on you in casual but isn't picked in competitive it means you're bad
if somebody shits on you in casual and they have a disproportionately high pickrate in competitive it means there's a problem with the character
>>339242997
People don't like instant, uncounterable death either.
Is 55% accuracy with Pharah any good?
>>339243073
If those are directs, yes.
>>339240847
So you're supposed to aim directly in the center of the crosshair for his hook to hit right? Its position to the left even after it has some distance from you after throwing it throws me off a lot of the time.
>>339232401
>Get my first legendary at level 39.
>It's the Yeti Hunter Mei skin.
I'm fucking pissed at this fat piece of shit.
>>339243052
Exactly, so being completely stopped by anything is not a fun mechanic and should be removed from the game.
Its just a thick coat.
>>339240847
that hook literally makes 0 sense it just auto aims to a target, what a broken piece of shit
>>339243143
"Hitting" and "Pulling" are two separate actions. Basically you land the hit, the character is free to move around for a split second if they were already in motion, then you pull
>>339232515
Sit on my face pls
Overwatch? more like Overweight!
Hah!
>>339243185
I got mercys Viking shit. Mercy looks best with her original. Why the fuck would I ever change that
>>339243073
It's pretty alright, I usually end up in the 60-70 range, with around 20 percent of shots being directs. Really depends on how much you're spamming though. Wouldn't fret about a low acc if you're hitting the shots you should be hitting.
>>339243409
Her amber one looks pretty good
>>339243143
The position only matters the second you throw it. It's hit-scan, so you need to be right on them. The delay makes it look odd.
>>339234821
I just stopped giving a shit and will pull my ultimate when there are at least two people I can rezz. No point in sitting on my ultimate for that one game changing team-rezz when it will never come because my whole team consist of spastics.
>>339238742
Lel I was on that Hanamura team
>>339243210
Difference is Mei's freeze has some counter play to and allows a large chunk of the roster to escape with their mobility option.
McCree doesn't allow that. Everyone he bumps into in a dark alley is going straight to jail without passing go.
>>339243389
>>339243528
Thanks.
>>339235146
They should just turn McGree's flashbang into an actual flashbang. Blinding you but not taking away control over your character.
>>339243575
It's fundamentally not fun to stop and wait to die, even if Mei has counterplay it's still not fun.
>>339243575
Genji can deflect his flashbang and Zayra, Dva, Reinheart can block it
>>339243621
I hate how out works even when you're not even facing him, like you're turned around.
>>339238090
GET REKT YOU FUCKING BITCH
>>339243707
Genji flashbang meme is pretty bad, it's really easy to avoid by just flashing the ground instead of Genji.
>>339243720
Being stunned by him from behind is the most infuriating shit
>he already caught you unawares
>but he can't aim for shit
>so instead of just unloading into you he also stuns you to make sure he can do it with enough time for even my grandma to land the shot
>>339243817
And it's really easy to avoid the flashbang to begin with by keeping distance. Most mcree players you run into solo queue go for the direct flashbang,
Also stop calling everything a meme.
>>339235414
get gud, figgit
I think that my issue with roadhog is that the collision and latch hit boxes feel different, so you can hook someone through a wall even though you were meant to collide with that wall instead of hooking it. Every time I play roadhog I get this feeling of "wow I shouldn't have latched onto that"
>>339243897
>Just don't be near a Mcreedy bro it's that easy
Nice me me
>>339243957
>McCree is hard
Nice meme
>>339243957
>Just flash the ground instead of Genji it's that easy
Genji can still deflect it unless he's total shit
Zenyatta health buff when?
>>339243954
It comes out on the left kinda, so I think it can slightly go around walls. Cursor still needs to be on them though.
>>339243897
>And it's really easy to avoid the flashbang to begin with by keeping distance.
It's not that hard to do his bullshit on a point or around a payload too. The difference is fan may pick up a cool double or triple in the process.
>>339244020
Yeah man I remember him deflecting splash damage.
>>339244020
dude you are not fucking reflecting a flashbang. its not gonna happen.
>>339243897
Are you assuming Mccrees dont know how to aim with left click or something? You can still lose.
>>339243845
Being stunned by him even with your shield up is infuriating
>be Reinhardt inside a room
>see McCree coming
>ohshitintensifies.jpg
>pull up shield and walk backwards
>he flashes the ceiling and it still stuns me
>fanhammer headshot to death
I fucking hate him, no other hero annoys me as much as him.
>>339244071
It isn't a splash. If you can't kill Mcree as Genji you're just shit. git gud
>>339244093
I've done it dozens of times and I'm nowhere near good with Genji. Again, git gud.
>>339244115
Except Mcree gets stunned if you deflect it properly, giving you ample time to finish him off
>>339244029
Hopefully soon, he's soft like a wet paper bag and can't support as well as Lucio/Mercy
>>339238090
I have this one 'friend' that always plays Dva, nothing else, just her. He has some serious autism and won't play anything else. I hate it so fucking much.
>>339232515
better than widowmaker tbqh
>>339244226
>He has some serious autism
Sounds like most of /v/
>>339244226
He ever give you a reason for that?
>>339244180
>it isn't a spash
it very much is a splash. I've stunned multiple people with it.
>>339244123
>fanhammer headshot
Fan the Hammer can't headshot. At 420 max damage (840 if he rolls and repeats) it doesn't need to.
>>339244329
>I've stunned multiple people with it.
And I've deflected it at multiple Mcrees. Not hard to do unless you're total shit.
Why must every multiplayer shooter have a one-shot-kill sniper rifle? It's been fucking cancer since videogames were invented.
>Sure hope you weren't planning on having some fun this round
>I'm just going to click on your head from a mile away, ok?
>>339244367
It can't? I didn't know that.
>>339239664
>Widowmaker on offense
she can clear an area in a good players hands. shame the rest of the team NEVER takes advantage of this and leaves the objective empty. usually I have to clear an area myself and claim the objective.
never get play of the game, nothing for anyone to vote on, but usually we win.
>>339244329
It's splash is very tiny. You're not going to get more than one person with it unless they're standing right next to each other.
>>339244312
I have no fucking clue, he comes on our TS, plays with us but refuses to talk on it. He has a mic but never plugs it in. He has like 13+ hours on Dva, and a few minutes on mercy. It infuriates me, because sometimes we don't need a fucking Dva.
He's not even my friend, he's a friend of a friend. And everyone is sucking his dick because he WAS a good raider on wow 5-6 years back. If I try to shit talk him, everyone is being buttblasted because he's 'special'. I fucking hate the fact that just refuses to play anything else.
>>339244424
You can't deflect it if the mcree is smart and doesn't try to direct hit you with it. That's the point, you idiot.
>>339244442
What is high risk high reward.
>>339244456
I'm glad it doesn't, headshots should reward careful aiming rather than RNG.
>>339244508
Exactly. No risk involved when you're a mile away from the action, in cover, staring at a chokepoint.
>>339237987
Yeah I agree.
I like the idea of her, but everything she does is so easily countered.
You'll need 5-6 turrets up to do any serious damage before they're taken out, so either reduce the cooldown on their charge, buff their damage or health since they're taken out instantly once people know where they are.
Primary attack is decent, I think it could be left alone is something else was buffed, otherwise, increase it's range a little.
Secondary attack needs a huge buff, it's completely useless. Never been killed with it, or killed anyone decent with it. Incredibly easy to avoid due to it's size and brightness. Needs a huge buff to speed (counter that with an increased charge time, ammo cost) or just have it replaced.
Shield buff is alright, but a little boring to use, buff everyone once you see them, that's it. Could use something to make the mechanic a little more interesting, like having the shields expire.
Teleporter can be left alone, it's a great ultimate to have on your team when you're making a final push. Only thing is that I'd love it if it didn't expire, but that could be a little OP.
>>339244508
I'd argue that at least with Widowmaker there isn't really any high risk, since she can fire those shots so quickly.
>>339244548
What happens when they are close but?
>>339244424
>My mmr is so shit all Mcrees I play against dont know how to play against Genji
>>339244502
Sounds like a huge waifufag to me. I'm a waifufag but I play what the situation calls for, even if it's someone I hate like Bastion.
>>339244587
It's a lot easier to keep away than it is to get close.
>>339244491
Same, but for the moment POTG and recommendations don't do anything so I don't really care.
at least I always get my objective time gold medal
>>339244424
Do you think every Mccree is going to stun as soon as they see a Genji? I've baited reflect out tons of times and still killed his ass.
>>339244587
If they can aim, they headshot the guy up close and carry on sniping.
>>339244582
What is up with that anyway? Is there a good reason why they made her shots so spammable and charge quickly? Her rifle should have been bolt action.
>>339244613
>>339244613
>My mmr is so shit I dont know how to play Genji against Mcree
You suck at the game, that's all there is to it. Git gud.
>>339244640
I don't know man. I don't care anymore either. I'll just have to roll with it.
>all my friends play this game
>mfw I'm the only not playing this
Feels bad being a physics major. Literally no time for anything else.
>>339244773
Dunno, they probably wanted to make it more casual friendly, so that not every missed shot immediately means that you gave away your position and will be half dead before you get another try
and ignored what this will do in the hands of someone who actually knows how to aim
>>339244693
>Do you think every Mccree is going to stun as soon as they see a Genji?
Then it's not a problem anymore is it? Mcree basically cannot use his gun or stun as long as Genji has reflect available. I've baited flashbang out tons of times and still killed Mcreedy's ass.
>>339244662
this one guy didn't realize what I was doing and said "its not about kills"
so then get on the fucking objective, I cleared the way. some people man..
>at least I always get my objective time gold medal
I just love hearing "victory" and knowing that I did my fair share in making that happen. I should really not like this game for how simple it is but I love it.
>>339244828
Every other character has several counters, so why does McCree only have one that relies on a special ability to counter?
>>339244442
Battleborn doesn't have one of those.
>>339244923
Except Mcree has several counters, anon listed them earlier ITT.
>>339234603
Just play roadhog and hook him every damn time. It's so easy and it makes them mad as fuck.
>>339244506
>Mcree tries to throw out his splashbang
>deflect it easily
>Mcree is now stunned
>throw starts into is hat for the kill
It's literally that easy. If you can't reliably deflect his flashbang then you should stop playing, there's no hope for you.
>>339244442
Widowmaker's gun isn't a one-shot-kill sniper rifle unless she gets a headshot while charged up or she's shooting Zenyatta.
Any character with enough mobility can easily wreck her shit. With the posisble exception of Dva due to her retardedly massive hitbox
>>339238090
I could watch this all day. Amazing.
She's pubstomp: the hero.
Which is a problem when you always play pub.
>>339245142
you can't one shot Dva with widow right? I just don't know where to aim with her.
>>339232401
why are you retarded senpai? I literally used her on launch then moved on before the night was even over because she's a weaker choice than other options.
Ways to counter mei:
Shoot her (without missing)
Characters that can counter:
McRee
Widowmaker
Soldier 76
Junkrat
Reaper
D.Va
Mercy
Hanzo
Genji
Tobelerone
Tracer
Pharah
Bastion
Lucio
Zenyatta
Roadhog
If you're so shit you can't play or swap to any of those characters, just kill yourself senpai. The world will thank you.
>>339245227
Aim for her cockpit.
>>339237758
>>339237673
melee is not 50 its 30
>>339244884
Honestly, I think they need to make widow's ult charged a lot more slowly and make her shots shoot like 50% slower. It is just absurd right now. A lot of widow's ive seen just full charge body shot and half charge body shot because it's easy and does the job just as well since it is so fast.
>>339245346
>slow
she won't be fun to use then.
>>339245259
I can literally only use mei as a defense character. thats where her strength lies and I have never seen mei be so powerful that people have to bitch about it. her range is terrible.
and most people I've seen are absolute shit with her and have no idea how to use ice walls correctly. they're always crooked leaving a huge gap.
This fucking hook does silly things. If you go through frame by frame I'm not sure my crosshair was ever on him.
>>339242973
>Junkrat
>>339245897
And sometimes your ult is all you need.Fucking webm 3MB limit
At which level did you guys get your first legendary? Also in 22 levels I've managed to get 575 coins worth of duplicate and coin drops.
>>339237987
Her left click can deal with most offensive characters relatively easy though if they get too close
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