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Nerf this overpowered fat fuck
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Nerf this overpowered fat fuck
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Nerf this too plz
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I'd nerf the fat right off her if you know what I mean.
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>>339232401
>Nerfing the most fun character

For what purpose? If you're so butthurt why don't you try using here instead of whining?
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>>339232535
So I take it you only find her fun because you're too shit to be good at other classes? Truly this is reddit.
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>>339232634
Stop missing shots and you could kill her. Also stop running off alone.

It's a team game, fight as a team. She was built to keep faggots from running off alone.
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>>339232889
>stop running off alone
>its a team game
Tell that to my team mates.
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>>339232401
HAHAHAHHAHAHA HOW THE FUCK Do you get killed by this character HAHAHAHHA NIGGA JUST stay in range and away from her LIKE NIGGA DONT GET TO CLOSE
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>>339232401
Snuggle with this adorable cutie patootie.

And never let go.
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WHY ISN'T MCCREE REMOVED YET HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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>Make her secondary fire her new primary fire with no shot delay.
>Make her Shift move her ice beam
>Running on ice that you shoot at the ground speeds you and teammates up
>Glacier shield is removed completely

There. I fixed her barely having to nerf her at all
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DON'T BULLY MEI!

SHE IS CURVY AND CUTE!
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>>339233125
>her ice slows you a lot, but doesn't completely freeze you
>her iceblock doesnt heal
Fucking fixed
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Is mei actually decent and worth using
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Git gud
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>>339234114
considering you can just w+m1 and occasionally right click, i guess so
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>>339232401
NO
Stuff her full of yummy treats instead
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>never used in competitive because shes so easy to counter
>retards still have not got gud
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Just give her 200 health and she would be perfect. There's no reason a character with an invincible full health heal and wall to have so much health. Especially since she shits on anybody 1v1 that isn't named macree.
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>>339233213
needs more rolls
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>>339232401

MUDA DA
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>>339234481
>This guy
Here you go faggot
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>>339232401
Reapers ult needs a major nerf. Shit is a one button multi kill.
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>>339234394
>Never used in competitive
She's actually a great counter to genji and tracer.
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>>339234394
She's never used in comp because McCree is on every comp team and is literally the only hard counter to her in the game.
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Gross fat chink. People only like her because she's op
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>>339234603
I agree to an extent. I think the simplest thing would be to shortern the range. It kills you when you aren't even close.
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Nerf torbjorn turret accuracy and maybe I'll have fun again

Every team with 2 fucking torbs man
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She doesn't need a nerf at all you just need to git gud. I hate her fucking fat guts because she is hands down the most frustrating hero to play against but she's actually well balanced.
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>>339233072
Why can't you fags learn to stay more than three inches away from McCree?
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>People who don't know how to properly balance video games asking to nerf/buff heroes.

>Nerf Reaper ult
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>>339234594
thaats too far
I do have standards, loose they may be
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>>339234114
she is annoying as fuck in 1v1 but she gets raped by crossfire
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>Completely unbeatable in close range, will out perform everyone from McCree to Reaper to Tracer
>Can defeat long range combat with walls and ice encapsulation
>Most people are too stupid to anything except run blindly into her
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How about you git fucking gud, scrub?
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>>339234394
thats because McCree is in every game ever
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>>339232889
>It's a team game, fight as a team.

This so much oh my god
There is nothing more frustrating than sitting on mercys ult because all you can ever do is revive 1 other player because they're all scattered around the fucking map, running around like headless chicken and the one guy who you decided to follow, runs straight ahead into the enemies, dies and blames you for not healing properly

I can't wait for ranked matches
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>>339234290
You'd take Mei out for a doughnut date and hold hands afterwards, right /v/?
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>>339232401
I want to be a swimsuit clad Mei
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>>339234774
most balance issues could be resolved if the game just had some fucking damage falloff.

McCree should not be able to outsnipe the sniper sniping him
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>>339234643
If a Tracer loses to a Mei she needs to stop playing. Thats the one 1v1 matchup Mei cannot ever hope to win. Genj shes good against yeah but you don't see him that often and competitive is not about 1v1s/1v2s where Mei is a beast.

>>339234669
And snipers. 250hp doesn't do shit when you have 0 mobility and are gonna get shot in the head by snipers who play like they have aimbots. Then you need to iceblock because the 2nd shot is gonna kill you.
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>>339234603
Just use D.Va, her matrix skill completely negates edgelord's ult and it feels fucking great.

For him it must feel like receiving a kick in the balls right before cumming.
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>>339234895
Game needs another sniper.
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i'd slap her fat titties around if you know what i mean
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>>339234783
>That
>Not having standards
I coulda posted 3-D if I assumed you didnt.
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>>339234947
AGAIN AGAAAAIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN!
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>>339234987
Game needs a damage sponge
Like an even more defensive reinhardt but with less damage output
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>>339234947
Widowmaker counters everything because hitscan snipers are cancer as fuck and don't belong in any FPS
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>>339234745
HIS ULT HAS INFINITE RANGE JACKASS
>exit hallway for 1 second
>die
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>>339234947
>>339235037
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-asmVIDFOc
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>>339234895
McCreee has damage falloff. It was added in beta after his revolver was an actual sniper. You can go test his damage in a game and see he doesnt hit hard at all from a distance. The issue is his stun is impossible to dodge and getting hit by it is a death sentence for everyone but tanks. Who are gonna die after he rolls to reload.
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>>339235041
two reinhardts
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>>339235041
Game needs a actual patch fixing these issues already.
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>>339234745
McCree can snipe
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She is literally the worst hero according to gooks

I bet you die to backburner pyros, faggot
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>>339235085
The real problem is hanzo
For some reason his arrows always hit the head
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>>339234847
>doughnut date

So what, I pick her up at 4 in the morning?
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>>339232401

I've seen her played maybe once or twice and she always gets destroyed. What is your major malfunction, anon kun?
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>>339234987
So cowadooty shitters pick him too? It's already painful enough to be down two guys
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>>339235172

is that based on pro matches? I see roadhogs way more than d.va
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>>339235085
>His ult
You mean the thing where he screams really loudly that he's going to kill you, waits a second, and then kills you? if you get killed by that, 95% of the time you fucking deserve it.

>>339235157
He's not useless at range, but he's definitely MUCH less powerful.
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>>339232401
There's nothing more satisfying than denying her what she craves.
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McCree shits all over Mei.
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>>339235172

Does that say worst hero or least popular hero?
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>>339235172
>Winston that high
What the fuck
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>>339235190
Playing Hanzo?
Can't aim?
No problem! Just press E and fire somewhere next to them!
Our Tear-Seeking Arrowsâ„¢ will guarantee you a hard earned kill!
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>sexualizing women of size

Eugh can you not ??
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>>339232889
>>339232967
>>339234821
>Usually play rein
>I move up until enemies start firing
>shield up
>nobody behind me
>Ever
>I can see all 6 enemies
>I know we have attackers who aren't just flankers
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>>339235325
The most satisfying thing in the game is killing D.Va. She is the most obnoxious cunt - and I'm not referring to balance.
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So why can McCree stun you even when you're not facing his flash? And why can't you jump out of Mei's ult and why does it go through reinhardts shield but her freeze gun doesn't?
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>>339235369
Winston is god like.

>jump over enemy team
>supports can do literally nothing as you run them down
>kills McCree
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>>339235172
It's character usage, not a ranking of usefulness
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>>339232401

>Completely shut the attacking team out on Volskaya as Symmetra
>Get play of the game
>Attacking team whines
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>>339235382
E rarely hits, let alone kills the target. I got lucky once in beta and got the triple kill achievement, but I'm lucky to hit anything with it otherwise.
His regular shot is far more reliable.
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>>339235414
Where's that picture of D. Va saying 'Get Gud' while smirking when you need it?
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>>339235394
>women of size
Top kek
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>>339235382
I love picking up Hanzos as Tracer, when you get up close they completely fall apart. Literally Polygon reviewer tier
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>>339235146
>and see he doesnt hit hard at all from a distance.

He doesn't have to hit hard if he can unload 6 bullets into you anyway
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>>339235406
>play rein
>put shield up
>guaranteed that 95% of the time people will just run through it and ignore you
If your team isn't retarded he is the best tank, but if you're surrounded by morons he is the worst.
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>>339235434
Because he's broken as shit?
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>>339235369
He hard counters snipers. And since widowmaker is used in every game hes super effective at shutting her out and letting your widowmaker do whatever she likes.
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>>339235574
Don't bully the Hanzos, Tracer moves too fast!

;_;
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>>339235574
>most play time as hanzo
>characters like roadhog and tracer assume that at close range im fucked
>nearly always kill them because they let their guard down
Shit is so satisfying
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>>339235302
Competitive matches, yes

>>339235368
>>339235467
Usage in competitive matches is equivalent to power.
In normal games, Winston has extremely low usage. He is a common pick in comp

>>339235369
His power is in disruption, not damage. A coordinated team makes good use of him
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>>339235594
If someone runs up to you while you're shielding, and you're not shielding anyone on your team from snipers or whatever, you smack the fuck out of them or line up a charge.
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>>339235582
Right click sprays like a shotgun and is only broken if hes close. If you get hit 6 times by his left click from a distance you deserve to die
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mei is shit why do we keep having these threads
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>>339235594
Yeah, that too. I've literally watched Mccrees and others walk right up through it and immediately get sniped.

I like Rein on defense though, nobody expects the hulk hiding in their sidepaths when they try to flank
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>>339235775
Every day until she is nerfed
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>>339232515
Ewww shes so fat she cant even wipe properly after a shit, bet she doesnt even shave aswell so its pleb city down there
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>>339235512
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How about you git gud faggot
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>>339235863

shes a character that relies on the enemy team letting her be effective.

you have to WILLINGLY let her kill you to die to her.

how does anybody think shes good.
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>Mei isn't fat
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Widowmaker is fun but it's painful how hard I get countered by Genjis. He just hits me with shurikens while peeking around walls so fast I can't ever hit him, and if I look at him he just runs at me while reflecting so I can't do anything or shoot him, and I get killed by the dash, or if I hook away I hear him activate his ult and I'm dead in less than a second. Once I see a Genji in the game I usually just switch classes, it's so hopeless.
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>>339236010
>you have to WILLINGLY let her kill you to die to her.
This is how retarded you sound
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>>339236074

??? are you too retarded to comprehend a basic point ???

example:

widow maker doesn't require the enemy team to fuck up to get kills because she can reach out and touch them.

pharah doesn't need the enemy team to fuck up to get kills because she can reach out and touch them

winston doesn't need the enemy team to fuck up to get kills because he can reach out and touch them

mei is a low dps class that requires you to be isolated and oblivious to her positioning to die to her.
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Here is how you balance Mei.

>give her Ice Wall a set amount of health points

Like double or triple whatever Mei's current HP is. If it can be knocked down/demolished prematurely by opponents then it's effectiveness goes down the drain.

>Ice Shield
Make it so that Mei can be damaged during the process but the ice barrier, too, has a set amount of damage it can take before it prematurely expels Mei from her icy tomb.

Alternatively get better and don't commit to attacking Mei unless you know you can fuck shit up and/or you have a team backing you.
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>>339235863
She doesn't need nerf, she's like bastion, only good if playing against retards.

If mei is killing you, learn to play fps.
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Any reason Genji's ult isnt one slash kill?
At the moment it is quite underwhelming.
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>>339236040
If he's reflecting then you can butt him in the goddamn face. That's what I do. Most Genji players I've done against miss their dash and then get mowed down by Widowmaker assault fire. Tracer is the worse harasser by far. I just can't fucking get a bead on her.
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>>339236302
it lasts a decent amount of time
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>>339236302

EUGENE OKAY OKAY
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>>339236245
You can already destroy segments of her wall- people are shitters and lose to mei/bastions all the time
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>>339236302
It has pretty good range for a sword, the range is disjointed and he can easily 2 shot most characters.

Reinhardts ult is underwhelming.
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>>339236245
I know you're shit and just echoing everyone else because you're unaware to the fact that mei's GREAT WALL does have health and can prematurely break. Mei needs a nerf though
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>>339235312
>wait a second
HE CAN WAIT ANY AMOUNT OF TIME
>le high nun xD
>wait 20 seconds
>die instantly
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>>339236334

Usually they reflect from outside melee range. The assault rifle does good damage if the Genji is retarded enough to get hit by it, but most of the time they kill me as soon as they're in melee range.

Tracer is annoying, yeah, but at least you can bodyshot her.
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>>339236302
Because it lasts quite a while and allows you to cover obscene distances. I've had a Genji follow me into the fucking sky as Pharah and cut me down. It's got range, you don't need to be up somebody's ass to hit them.
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>>339232401
>notice my teammate got hooked
>place wall between him and hogwash
>"nice wall! saved my ass"
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>>339236231

Dying to Mei = dying to Symmetra or Torb in a 1v1.

Yes it can happen, but you gotta be fucking retarded to let it happen.
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>>339236456
>it has health
Good. Lower it so people can stop bitching.
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>1v1 in Overwatch
well I guess that can happen if you're a faggot
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>>339234847
>Mei will never be your chocolate jam ball

;_;
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>>339236490
>lining up a shot as hanzo/widowmaker
>mei on my team puts a wall up just as I shoot
Fuck sake
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>>339232401
>WAAAAAAHHHHH I'M SHIT AT THE GAME AND CAN'T BEAT A CHARACTER WITH GLARING WEAKNESSES
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>>339236506
Torbs shotgun is stronk what are you on about
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Why isn't reindhart (and genji's ult) third person? It's so fucking hard to hit accurately.
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>>339236594

> 1v1 in overwatch

you mean like the 1v1s that happen in every team game?
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Shes fat

Shes ugly

She speaks like a pig

Shes only good at wasting your time

fuck mei
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I bet she has like a pleb farm round round her asshole plump juicy plebs festering round her butthole
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>>339233125
>take away all the good parts
>add a shitty version of lucio's gimmick
>fixed

Retards like you are why games get patched to be garbage and die.
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>>339236642

If you're a combat class and you lose to Torb in a 1v1 you're a retard.
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>>339232515
Damn mommy got cake...
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>close range area denial flamethrower character
>give them a sniper rifle for alt weapon

lmao
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>>339235574
A wild Tracer has appeared
>arrow -> miss
>fist
>fist
Tracer panics
>fist
Tracer dies

It happens often enough to make me feel like a fucking ninja.
I've actually played a game as Hanzo with 100% melee last hits as an end-of-game card.
Didn't know that card existed; had a hearty laugh.
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>>339236506
Symmetra and Torb don't get to instantly kill you if they get the drop on you like Mei does due to you getting frozen to the point of immobility after half a second of getting iced
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>>339236719
Maybe they happen 'cause you're a mouthbreathing retard looking for 1v1 and not playing McCree
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>>339232515
oh you like that little piggyy.... yeah squeel for my cock.. mmm... i wanna cream you little piggy
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As a Reinhardt player, she's a pain in the ass, because I can't kill her before she freezes me, unless I can tackle her.
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>>339236912

or they happen because 1v1s are inevitable in team games.

how are you enjoying your first fps? having fun?
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>>339236887
I actually fisted/pistol'd a Tracer to death 4 times in one game as Mercy (and made her fuck off about 10 more times on top of those without managing to kill her before she got away). The Tracer was really bad though. It was pretty entertaining getting POTG for punching out Tracer and resurrecting the team.
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>>339236962
Just don't run off and 1v1 her and walk backwards, works every time for me and play a good Rein.
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>>339236962
she counters Rein, like you said you have to aim and tackle her ass, shes not that bad
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>>339236887

I thought melee only does 30 damage? You'd have to land five melee attacks, not three.
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>>339234394
>playing competitive
>muh elo
fucking kill yourself you scrawny pale beta cuck

She's the anti-fun character, but you don't fucking care about fun anyway you autistic retard.
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>>339235365
mcree shits on everything...
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>>339237037
I've had shitty teams, I would need at least half the team to not be ass to actually succeed, due to the Mei players always having additional help. I don't 1v1 her, it's usually like 2v3 or 4, with myself and my friend being the 2.
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>>339237097

i think its more the point that shes hard countered by a team with even basic communication, awareness, and understanding of the game.

you need to chill out.
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>people want her to take damage through the closest thing she has to an escape

And reaper should take damage during his shadow thing, mcree should take damage while rolling, junkrats mines should hurt him, and the dwarf's turret should target him if no enemy is near that would fix everything :^)
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>>339237135
I see, it's good that her gun doesn't go through your shield. Just walk backwards and Meis usually aren't ballsy enough to run thigh your shield, cause they're afraid of dying.
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>>339236982
enjoying my 66% winrate

By not going out looking for 1v1
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>>339237097
>hurrrr muh fun iz mo important than anyone elses fun or the game bein good y dusnt the other tem just stand still and let me get kills Q_Q
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>>339237185
Not him, but he has a point in that Mei is an anti-fun character because of the freeze mechanic. Nobody enjoys playing against Mei except masochists, even a bad Mei is still annoying even if she accomplishes nothing. She just sucks fun out of the game for anyone not playing her.
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>>339237038
That actually makes me feel a hell of a lot better.
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>on attack team
>2 snipers
>they never change
>neither of them prioritise turrets
I just want to enjoy the game
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>>339237303
She takes 4 rein melees, he simply doesn't have enough time to kill her before she freezes unless you open with a fire slash before getting close.
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The only OP heroes in this game are McHammer and Widow"I just gave my entire team vision for a year" Maker
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>>339233213
>Patreon for this QUALITY

Ofc.
That fucking hand.
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>>339237291
The retards bitching they can't 1v1 any hero with their favorite hero are the same kind of retards that picked scout and cried about how they can't solo level 3 engie turrets by running in a straight line at them.
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>>339237349
Oh no you have to *GASP* USE YOUR ABILITIES TO WIN A FIGHT?!?!?!?!?! HOW DARE THIS GAME
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>>339235574
>play on PS4
>play Tracer
>get bodied by Hanzos left and right

It make no sense. The game's aim assist is barely noticable. Might as well be nonexistent. Hanzos and Widow are ridiculously hard to play.

How do they kill me.
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>>339237291

cool.

1v1s happen in all team games though.

remember that time your genji got flashbanged and fanned by mcree and then he got in on your combo and ulted?

thats a lost 1v1 that maybe resulted in a wipe.

glad i could teach you how team fps works.
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>>339237476
Nigger I'm stating facts, go shitpost elsewhere.
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WHY IS EVERY FUCKING GAME A STOMP
LITERALLY EVERY GAME IS WIN OR LOSE IN 3 FUCKING MINUTES HOLY SHIT
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>>339237476
You're assuming A) you hit B) She doesn't wall up C) she doesn't have backup D) you're at full health and E) your team isn't shit if she does have backup.
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>>339237523
>It make no sense. The game's aim assist is barely noticable. Might as well be nonexistent. Hanzos and Widow are ridiculously hard to play.

Hanzo's arrows have a hitbox as big as torb
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>>339237524
Hey
Remember that time you played Genji and should have been somewhere near the cap so that your team could respond to a broken as shit McCree combo?
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>>339237061
Melee is 50. Reinhart's is 75
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>>339237623

nope, 0 hours on genji literally.

why are you intentionally missing the point

arguing an absolute point of > muh never 1v1 ever in MY team games

despite the fact they obviously do happen, and are usually decisive moments.

odd, anyway not going to bother replying to you any further.

maybe you need to do some growing up buddy.

have a good one.
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>>339235434
Because stun grenades aren't flashbangs, they are concussive blasts.

Also because Mei's ult is an AOE and isn't line of sight and is placed on the ground while her gun is aimed.
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>>339235172
>>339235692
These aren't tier list, these are just statistics. A tier list would be a combination of statistics and theory. Tier lists are subjective and that's why there are many of them.
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>>339237606
I dunno, man.

I've shot arrows that literally scraped their character and got no hit. I think the hit boxes are small and tight as FUCK
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>>339237673

Shit, I'll have to start using melee.
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>>339237701
ok buddy

I'm saying that 1v1 only happens when shitters go looking for shitter plays

Or get caught out of position because they're shitters

And that they shouldn't happen in a team game because only shitters make them happen

But that's okay

You too, bud.
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>>339237198
>and the dwarf's turret should target him if no enemy is near
Oh my lol
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What the fuck was Blizzard thinking by adding TWO characters that can remove control from other players?

There's a reason the Natasha was nerfed hard multiple times until it was just reworked entirely. Removing control from enemy players is too damn powerful.

Bliz ripped off TF2 but didn't even pay attention to its development history.

Worst part is that if you try to discuss Mei's balance, faggots at Bliz will just snark at you because Mei is the game's secondary mascot and console kiddies will say "oh Mei sucks" because of control differences between versions
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>>339237294
The team designing Mei:

"We should give her a gun that can freeze opponents"

"OK cool, and let's make it so she can 1-shot frozen opponents too"

"Yeah, that's great, make sure to have the freeze last longer than any other stun in the game"

"How about we make the freeze apply basically immediately?"

"That sounds good. What are you thinking for abilities?"

"I dunno, how about a heal with like a wall or something, and uh, hey we could make her have one that can freeze everyone near her"

"We should make her pretty tanky too honestly, wouldn't want her to be able to die"

"Fuckin ship it boys"
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>>339235172
Why is there no A tier?
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>>339237198
BAMF already takes damage from rolling. I've been trying to get myself to just eat the reload all night because every time I roll I'm rolling straight into a stray arrow or something so my body gets flung across the stage at 200mph.
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>>339232401
They need to buff Symettra.

Her basic left click beam is useless in in 1v1. Her right click is literally the Mooninite tier, if it hits you deserve to die.
And everything one hits your turrets, and they have a massive cooldown even though your heavily reliant on them 90% of the time to do any sort of meaningful damage.

In most matches your turrets are only good placed in places they can't be shot like on ledges above doors, but a smart player will still just one shot them taking minor damage unless your in a team fight with something else drawing aggro.
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>>339237946
You legitimately have autism and a sub 100 IQ.
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she sucks

if you're gonna spam icicles just fucking play mccree and actually contribute
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>>339237921

do you really not understand the difference between a game thats been out for a decade

and a game thats been out a week?

> why didn't they learn from valves development history

because it's a different game thats been out a week jesus christ.

why didn't Africa learn from the development history of Europe and make more industry and money?

are there actually people this dumb?
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>>339232401
Sure, as soon as they nerf Reinhardt, Winston, Genji, and Tracer.
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>>339235414
It's not even just the character, but the people who play her
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>>339237987
I don't have a problem with symmetra except her turrets. Like I guess the idea is that the turrets slow them while you chase after them with your death beam but they take way too long to activate. And like you said you need all 6 of them in one place so that they don't all die immediately, and they'll all die immediately anyway if the other team has anyone with an explosive.
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>>339237606

>Hanzo's arrows have a hitbox as big as torb

I fucking knew those hitboxes were some bullshit.
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>>339238058
You're a retard

The difference between the development of nations and the development of modern video games is that the fucking internet exists and you can look that shit up

have you never studied for a test or cited something in an essay? I'm surprised you can even read

Overwatch is highly derivative of TF2. Ignoring TF2s development history and smugly defending their mistakes is amateur shit on blizzards part
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>>339237946

She's also really fucking slow move speed wise. She packs lots of utility but not speed.
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>>339234947
She can wall to block sniper los though
So in that sense she's a counter to snipers since she allws your team to move up
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>>339238090
Rein is amazing
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>>339238090
>the Rein doesn't even die
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>>339238090
I really hope they were streaming
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>>339238259

i'm baffled you sat there and wrote that

and genuinely thought it was a counter argument.

> it's like citing in an essay.

????

is this what highschools are producing today?

i cant even be bothered to google search

just picture me pinching between my eyes in exasperation at how dumb your reply was.
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>>339238326

This nigga gets it.
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>>339237946
Did you think that was funny
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>>339237946
It's like Robin Walker's favoritism for the Soldier resulting in him getting shitloads of weapons and balance changes rarely ever coming out, except instead of it being a case of class favoritism its waifufaggotry
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>>339237987
Her M1 takes time to ramp up but it can destroy, especially if you're chasing a retard who doesn't know how to melee. Her turrets should activate sooner and have a bigger range like torb's does considering the piss poor damage they do and how quickly they go down. Her M2 goes through shields, so just use it on dumb reins. Her E should give more shields than 25. 25 really just helps tracer
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>>339238090
Oh my fuck I wasn't expecting that.
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>>339238174
Exactly. I've played her several times, and the only time I've had it work well is when I paired up with a Torbjorn and amassed our turrets at a choke point.

Even then we killed like 3 people before someone shot a rocket into our shit, killing the majority of my turrets while his lasted another shot.

I basically just kept rebuilding the stupid things the whole game, I tried replacing them in a thousand different places. Nothing really helped against the skilled players, they would just clean up and move on to kill me since I couldn't do fuck all her with her skill set 1v1.

She seems heavily reliant on the rest of the team, once your alone it's over.

They need to decrease the cooldown, boost the health of the turrets and herself, and possibly make her Voidray beam do more damage when she is fighting someone on her own or simply boost the speed at which it ramps. That charged shot needs a lot of changes, not even going into that.

She was the only character I played who made me feel underpowered to the point of feeling useless.
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>>339234847
Why did she wipe shit on her nose?

>tumblr
Never mind.
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>>339238469
>I can't even bother to google search

Yeah and neither did blizzard

Overwatch was in closed beta for nearly half a year, moron. They had plenty of time to get player feedback re: stun weapons and they did nothing about it

Not to mention Mei was an incredibly late addition to the roster and is entirely unchanged from the day she was added.

If the games not finished don't fucking launch it and don't put waifufaggots on the Dev team that will play favorites
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>>339238508
Tracer, Soldier 76, Zarya and Zenyatta all benefit a lot from it.
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>>339238090
>xbox

RARE
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>>339237623
>genji
>near the cap
his job his to run on roofs and fuck up snipers/backline squishies, not to sit under the cap point

if you see your genji once, and that includes being back at spawn, he's fucking bad
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>>339238508
Again though, an ability shouldn't be set to effectively kill clueless retards only. Right now all of her moves only kill news who are dumb or ignorant enough to sit and take it.

I literally could not kill a unsuited D. VA with her, D. VA busted me down long before my beam could do substantial damage.
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>>339234705

got my shit pushed in by a full torbjörn team on hanamura last night, the first point was easy to take but the fucking second point...

that fucking range on those fucking turrest could even walk near the temple without getting targeted by atleast three turrets

>mfw I will forever have nightmares of a bunch of swedish dwarves yelling MOLTEN COOOOOOOOOORE at me
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>>339238618
>is entirely unchanged from the day she was added.
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>>339238618

wow you mean blizzard didn't just google search development suggestions for their unique IP that they made themselves and released 1 week ago?

you mean thats NOT how the world works?

wowwwwww

you mean development is usually tailored to the IP and the developers wim? and not just carbon copy from a COMPLETELY different IP?

wowww man ur blowing my fucking mind jesus christ
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>>339232401

The fun part about overwatch threads is that the people playing overwatch deserve nothing but scorn, and shit on their plate. Yet they bitch and moan about their awful game as if somebody should actually care about them.

Honestly, you are playing the most casual, pointless, and low-skill shooter to come out in the past 5 years.

Even Battlefield Heroes required more skill than this garbage.
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>>339238742
>tfw I've got a 87% win rate as that stunty bastard and I only ever play him on Hanamura

his just too good there. The turret has the range of the entire room so it's very difficulty for people to peak it. Combine that with good damage on his rivet gun his pretty great. Plus once your team gets rolling you'll be shitting out 75 armour packs
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>>339238742

Reminds me of that full McRee game I came up against last night. It was high noon all game.
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>>339238090
Out fucking played.
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>>339238742
They need to nerf the turrets. Torb can build them too fast, and very frequently. Also, they need to have about half a second of recognition before it starts shooting, like the tf2 sentry gun.
And maybe have it reset the recognition every time tracer teleports, to make her a hard torb counter and pseudo bonk scout.
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>>339238824
They made a TF2 competitor. It only makes sense to study their competitor's development history to not make the mistakes they made.

"Standing on the shoulders of giants." Look it up.
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>>339238952
the turrets are killed easily enough by peaking widows, hanzos, pharahs and junkrats. Torb main job is to counter flankers, so it's no surprise that the turret wrecks tracers.
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>>339237701
>Pshhhhh nothing personal kid
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>>339238561
>Even then we killed like 3 people before someone shot a rocket into our shit, killing the majority of my turrets while his lasted another shot.

Junkrat is the bane of my existence as a Symmetra player. If he's on the opposite team there's just no point in using Symmetra.
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>>339238952
>Bliz fucked something up that TF2 got right on launch in 2007


wooooooooow
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>>339238954

yeah look thats really not how it works at all.

you seem to have a very odd world view on this.

> why didn't you just copy everything they did when you developed the game.

every game goes through its own development lifecycle.

because its a team fps does not mean it needs the same balancing as tf2.

you can argue

> it's just tf2 2.0!

all you want, but you're just being a memetard or you hate the game in which case why do you care.
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>>339238561
My only success is putting turrets into rooms with health packs to pick off people like Pharah or Tracer who always run around with a tiny sliver of HP left. Then just suicide at the enemy team like a bad Mei/Winston to build up my ultimate.
The teleport is almost worth it but it's kind of dumb how your character always announces it even if there's no way they could see it. It just tells you to start hunting/spawn camping your team. Also if you build up her ultimate it just adds time to the first teleporter you built which is the stupidest thing ever. And there's no way to tell how long its going to last.
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>>339238090
>just launching it aimlessly, not even into a chokepoint

lol he seriously expected potg
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>>339239094
Is tf2 the predecessor to hero shoters?
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>>339239115
He was doing it more for the kill cam. I've seen a Genjo do something similar on the quadruple.
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>>339232401
shes not overpowered youre just really bad
there is only one broken character in ebinwatch, and its McLe
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>>339239183
That's not spousedestroyer
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>>339235059
skill
hitscan sniper
people have chosen which one they want in their game
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>>339232401
Keep your distance, switch to mobile heroes, dumbass.
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>>339239165

nope, tf2 is a class based team fps.

a genre that had existed for a couple decades before it released.
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>>339239087
Honestly so far he doesn't seem anywhere near as powerful as a Engineer in TF2.

I don't know how many matches I played by simply finding a cozy corner and just setting up a dispenser and a turret and wait for the conga line to roll through and get like a 30/1 score every match.

Honestly Bastion is the fucked up broken piece of shit Turret. He can self heal and turn into a mobile rocket turret and then get back up instantly and chase your ass down and continue being the best turret he can be elsewhere.
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>>339239039
Not with torb hammering away in the background. If you're within the 40m range when you peek out, you're losing hp immediately.
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>>339239183
>>339239258
3 characters are GOD TIER

McCree
Widowmaker
Lucio
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>200 health
>rifle charges almost instantly and can be spammed
>gets a poison mine to detect when people are near
>can spam full auto when people are near
>instantly kills half the cast
>crazy mobility
>literal fucking wallhacks for an ult with no indicator for the other team

how fucked up on meth were blizz when they created this abomination?
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>>339239318
>healing your turret
>instead of using your gun to fuck shit up

you're playing torb wrong. Turret does 54 dps, gun does 150
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>>339239094
You're the retard. Team Fortress 2 is the most highly successful team based shooter on PC and it clearly had a massive influence on Overwatch in terms of game balance, character design, and character abilities. It takes one hour to go through TF2's commentary mode and to say "oh shit that makes a lot of sense, we should do that."

It takes two seconds to look on your feedback forums and to read when people are saying "this is a problem and someone else already found a solution"

When you get a paper cut do you devise an original solution to your problem? Do you try to superglue the wound shut because it was YOUR idea? No, you sanitize the wound with a well established antibacterial sanitizer and you put a bandaid on it because it's been long established that that is what works.

Go to hell
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Reminder that there's no point in playing characters that aren't Pharah, Tracer, D.Va, Mei, Mercy, or Widowmaker
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>>339239183
McCree is ability broken. Zenyatta is skill broken.
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>>339239305
There are few maps that allow you access to completely skull fucking Bastion players. And even then if the damage isn't sufficient he'll just heal himself.

That heal should have a health limit ala Mei's ice barrier regen and he shouldn't be able to do it while in Turret form. Wanna heal? Back to bot form. Of course this won't happen.
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>>339238797
>literally only buffs
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>>339239105
I've done that. Setting traps is literally your only real option, be it using item drop locations or simply holding up in a corner and waiting for some asshole to come plowing through the corner to their death.
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>>339239415

>highly successful team based shooter on PC

argument broke in the first sentence.

good try, back to the drawing boards.
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>>339239432
>pharah
>aka dies in one to hit anything
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>>339239305
Bliz fucked up by trying to split the builder class in to multiple heroes.

They ESPECIALLY fucked up by making Symmetra's teleporter her ult
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>>339238090
Reinhardt is so awesome.
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>>339239318
a torb who is doing nothing but hammering his turret is little more than useless. And he doesn't out heal a proper peaker, believe me, i've tried. And this is assuming you've got it in a place that leaves you in cover while hammering it. If not you're an easy kill
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>>339239415

> Team Fortress 2 is the most highly successful team based shooter on PC

Team Fortress 2 is one highly successful team based shooter in PC.

That's the point and is also why what you're trying to argue is so stupid.

If you want to be a pedant about this why aren't you saying it ripped off Quake Wars.
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>>339234745
his 1shot works usually out up to about 5 meters, 10 at the most extreme, and if enemy is at half health it can work at mid range with fan le hammur
hes not great at longer ranges, but hes better than almost every other hero
>>339234790
if you died to mei as McCree reaper or tracer you need to uninstall right now, you are the loser that is dragging down my team
>>339235458
>mccree presses e anywhere within 5 meters of you
>mccree right clicks shifts then right clicks
>720 damage and no skill required
other than that yeah winston is god
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>>339239484
Please, oh king retard, who superglues paper cuts shut and masturbates by aggressively squeezing his own testicles because those are the methods HE came up with HIMSELF, do explain the how calling TF2 a team based shooter and comparing it to Overwatch invalidates fucking anything
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>>339239305
He's a bit different from engie in his playstyle. I think blizzard wanted to encourage leaving your turret instead of making a nest. His ult makes him a lot more fearsome by himself, with the upgraded rivet gun and armor. The only offensive power engie got was the frontier justice.
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>>339235059
Are you guys the retards who keep choosing Widowmaker on offense?
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the problem with McCree is that he has no hard counter at all
if mccree had a counter his pick rate wouldnt be around 100%
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>>339234947
>Tracer beats Mei

In what fucking dimension m8?

Mei is a hard counter to any mobility based characters.
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>It's a /v/ whines about a literally bottom tier character being OP episode
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>>339239706
blink & rewind
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>>339238608

Are you so fucking retarded that you don't know what noses do in cold weather?
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>>339239701
he has no counter because CC is utter fucking cancer in a shooter. and his comes out instantly and has AoE.

>a character that is deadly at range and also you cant get near them or you die instantly

top notch game design
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>>339239408
>>339239592
>route 66
>set up in tunnel
>LoS sniper
>keeps trying to fullcharge turret
>can't keep up with the hammer
>turret keeps getting kills
Fuck y'all, the rivet gun has higher dps, but the turret never misses.
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>>339238952
Torb counters Tracer. And that's a good thing since no one else does besides a Ree around a corner.
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>>339239468
Can you even read?
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>>339239379
I don't understand why she needs to be fantastic no matter what range she is. If I'm not playing winston or d.va and get the drop on her there's a 50/50 chance she just kills me anyway. And it's just insulting when you get behind enemy lines so she just drops down, shoots you to death, and then flies back to her perch that's totally unreachable by anyone but her and pharah.
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>>339237956

Because A would be 80-100%, of which there are no heroes in that range.
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