Why haven't you installed Ubuntu yet? It's super easy, and if enough people install Steam on Linux, more game developers will support Linux and we can finally be free from Microsoft's increasingly shitty behavior.
>this is the year of Linux, I'm sure of it, g-guise
because I've been Debian Testing for years and I see no reason to switch to fucking Ubuntu.
Because I'm on Fedora instead
High performance on modern games are very poorly optimized on any linux distro
>>339218076
but it's certainly not the year of Windows, especially with UWP starting off
what is it the year of?
>>339218270
That's because game devs don't see much of a reason to make a good port over to Linux as everyone is on Windows. That'll change if everyone decided to switch to Linux.
>>339218076
Linux is already widely used (Android, a number of operating systems for professional/industrial use, etc etc). And I doubt Linux will ever become mainstream on the desktop, I'm just hoping it becomes popular enough among PC gamers that more devs support it.
Windows keeps pricing its superiority for gaming with directx12. What does Linux have to compete?
>>339217803
Because I'm happy with Debian testing.
>>339218464
But isn't that the very reason people are moving away from it?
>windows 10 exclusive
>>339218464
Isn't Vulkan like a cross platform DX12?
>>339218464
Not just vulkan but opengl has been better than directx for years. It's more efficient and allows more customization since it's less locked down.
I use gentoo
>>339217803
I do use it on my laptop. I'm waiting on getting a second GPU before switching my desktop so I can run KVM + Qemu for all 3 windows only games I play.
>keep sticking to windows, fuck linux!
>10 years from now
>windows7 and 8.1 support has been discontinued
>all games are UWP-only
I forgot which is better for Linux, AMD or Nvidia cards? I already built my computer, but haven't gotten a graphics card yet because I'm waiting to decide between Polaris and the 1070.
>>339217803
i did. set up a dual boot and never used it because it's shit.
>>339219051
>tfw kept windows installed in case there was one game needed to run that didn't work on Wine but hadn't booted it in like 5 years and didn't bother re-installing it when replaced the whole PC
>>339217803
For me the hard part of Ubuntu is the troubleshooting, am used to solving problems in Windows but once I get used to Ubuntu then im not turning back
>>339219019
NVidia using proprietary drivers. The only decent AMD drivers are the Free drivers (the ones not from AMD, they're a goddamn mess) but you will get lowered performance.
>>339217803
>Ubuntu
>Not Arch
I'm surprised so many games are supported already. Works great.
>>339219710
Arch is difficult for people coming from Windows. Let them play around in ubuntu for a while and when they're sick of Canonical's bullshit and know what they're doing, they'll become Arch master race.
>>339219019
nvidia been the only valid option for linux since like 2003 or something
the AMD no drivers meme has never been truer when you're on linux
>>339219710
>having to work for your OS instead of having an OS work for you
>>339219710
Gentoo > Arch
I use mint :3
>>339219946
Oh look, /g/ found this thread.
Sorry, my weekly Arch schedule is basically twice or so a week, look at the arch site to see if there's any critical info on the update, do the update, done. Takes no time at all.
>>339220048
>mint
Just use ubuttu mate or minimum install with cinamon
mint has shit security you better off with debian or ubuntu
>Linux
anon...
>>339218308
Consoles.
Unfortunately.
And not a very good year at that.
I'm going to play outside.Alone.
>>339217803
Why the fuck would I ever need Ubuntu when I have Windows 10? Win 10 can run any ubuntu program I'd ever need, AND native windows stuff. Go hang yourself stallman.
>>339218308
Smartphones and tablets.
>>339218756
>opengl has been better than directx for years
OpenGL only just caught up with D3D11 less than 2 years ago. It had been lagging behind directx for more than a decade before that.
>>339218076
/thread
/rekt
>>339222762
Because Windows 10 spies on you, and look at how viciously Microsoft is pushing Windows 10 upgrades. It literally doesn't give you the option to say no. Do you want a company that behaves like that to have a near monopoly (Apple being the only competition, but that's only at higher price points and definitely not for gamers)?
If we all switched to Linux, devs would be left with little choices but do proper Linux ports of even their AAA games and drop the idea of making Windows 10 exclusives
>b-but just me switching doesn't matter
what next, not going to vote?
I like being able to use most software without compromising performance or features.
Daily reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI
>>339224145
You don't even need to switch, dual booting is just fine too, or even virtual machines. We just need devs to see Steam is installed on so many Linux machines and the support for Linux will gradually increase (as it already is).
I installed Ubuntu on an old laptop the other day, and I was surprised to see the library for Linux games on steam is actually pretty big. I remember a few years ago gaming on Linux was basically non existent outside of being able to run them on Wine. What happened over the years? Where did this boom come from?
Why would devs support Linux when they already don't support OS X and its already larger user base. Windows is shitty, but for compatibility/popularity nothing will ever compare
Does anyone know how much it costs to port a game to Linux? Is it just a matter of making the game engine support Linux and then the cost of actually porting games that use that engine to Linux is virtually zero (besides the play testing needed to make sure there aren't any bugs)? Like if EA spent $500,000 (just making those numbers up, I have no idea how much it'd actually cost) on making Frostbite support Linux, would all of their games that use Frostbite basically be compatible with Linux after updating them?
just dual-boot idiot
>>339225717
linux is free and available to everyone with a toaster, OSX is very very costly to get even close to something resembling a gaming computer.
>>339225717
One of the reasons for not supporting OS X is the fact that only Apple can release graphics drivers for it, meaning the drivers are always outdated. The latest version of OpenGL supported in OS X is 4.1, which came out in 2010.
>linux
>functional OS
lol
With Windows 10 being literally impossible to pirate and Microsoft dropping windows 7 support within the next 5 years, I expect Linux will be the next standard. No one actually buys an OS. Everyone who builds their own computer pirates windows because it's convenient. Once that's made impossible, the next OS to use is Linux.
>>339225717
Because nobody buys Macs for gaming. Only the most expensive Macs have anything better than Intel's integrated graphics, and the ones with good graphics cards are targeted towards professionals like video editors, so they use the more expensive pro versions of AMD/Nvidia's stuff. Literally nobody buys Macs for gaming, so there wouldn't be much demand at all for OS X games that aren't iOS tier shit in the Mac app store.
On the other hand, Linux is often used by people who dual boot to play games on Windows. And now Linux has the backing of Valve, who want to make it a viable alternative to Windows for gaming. Another benefit for Linux is that there is no licensing fee, SteamOS machines are cheaper than Windows machines, which is a huge advantage for "console killer" PCs like Steam boxes.
>>339226515
works fine for me for the last 2 years, I will never go back to windows.
>>339226671
I really hope steam doesn't drop steamOS. I want to see the Linux gaming community grow.
>>339226803
it's a shame everytime i use wine to run steam it flags it as windows OS logging in and skewing the numbers I wish there was a way to tell valve I am using linux
>>339218338
>That'll change if everyone decided to switch to Linux.
So we have to endure several years of shitty performing games and bad drivers in the meantime? No thanks.
>>339217803
STILL can't play WoW on Linux.
because i use openbsd, op
>>339227087
I play WoW on linux, in fact it runs better through wine than it does on windows.
>>339226803
It'd be cool if gaming laptops started to come with the option to have Steam OS preinstalled instead of Windows, that way they could be $50-100 cheaper (idk how much Windows licenses cost for manufacturers).
>implying I dont use Ubuntu already
>implying I game on my PC in the first place
>implying I'm not a console peasant race
>>339226671
The Intel integrated cards in macbook are faster than most "discrete" laptop gpus. That's why they stopping including nvidia and radon cards as choices. Fun fact, my 2014 macbook pro runs Witcher 3 on high settings with AA
>most games don't have linux releases
>not every game works through WINE, and it's a crapshoot whether those that do have good performance
>AMD drivers are absolute shit, Nvidia are better but not as good as the Windows ones
Fix this shit and maybe I'll consider a linux distro for gaming. It's not the consumer's responsibility to unfuck all of this.
>>339227171
>sell laptops with pre-installed linux
>this happens
https://youtu.be/WRWrmT0ovPE
i'm actually using ubuntu right now because i accidentally borked my windows install
there's screen tearing up the ass and wine is so shitty that it consistently brings the entire system down loading photoshop fucking cs2
don't fall for the meme
>>339217803
I have 16.04 or whatever the latest lts ia on my laptop. Good for web and office stuff. Thats all i would ever use it for.
>>339227567
works fine on my machine
>>339227339
I'm guessing you're running at 1280x800 (13") or 1440x900 (15") at 30fps. My late 2013 one (with gt750m even) can barely run anything that came out after ~2012. I uninstalled Windows because there's just no point.
>>339227567
If you can't even handle Windows, you definitely can't handle Linux.
Anyways, your experience on Linux is pretty dependent on drivers and if your machine isn't well supported by Linux, you can have some problems like that.
>>339223986
>you have to use shittier product to fight monopoly
because I enjoy playing more then 3 games
>>339228124
Linux is getting better, Windows is getting worse. it won't be a downgrade in the long run, and if you dual boot you get the best of both worlds.
>>339228714
>it won't be a downgrade in the long run
How about you call me when it's actually better. I don't have to install it now when it's worse.
God I hate computers.
>>339228921
How can you say it's worse if you've never tried it? A lot of people even prefer Linux in its current state.
only *buntu you should ever use is Xubuntu.
>>339229104
>How can you say it's worse if you've never tried it?
I have tried it. I made this post >>339227420
Get your shit together linuxfag.
>>339228697
>because I enjoy playing more then 3 games
If linux is ever going to be a mainstream desktop OS
Everything needs to be done without having to open up the terminal
I know a lot of enthusiasts will defend the terminal tooth and nail
But let's face it, the average user doesn't want to to punch in a seemingly alien combination of symbols just to install some drivers
>>339229035
then buy yourself a Ps4.01 and pre-order a Ps4.02 in 2018
>>339217803
Because even before it was spyware, Ubuntu was Linux for kids. I use Linux for men.
>>339229298
They're making strides in this direction. They're obviously not there yet, but many distros are getting close.
>>339229192
How was I supposed to know that? There was literally no way for me to "get my shit together". All I saw was that your post indicated you don't currently have it installed.
>>339220037
>Gentoo
Linux from Scratch for babbiesI'm pretending to be retardedMaking your own custom LFS build really is the best though.Until it's time to update.
>>339229620
Get your shit together by not pushing a terrible platform for playing games on a Vietnamese basket weaving board primarily about playing video games.
>>339218096
This man, right here.
>tfw we get Total War: Warhammer without Denuvo
>>339217803
>and we can finally be free from Microsoft's increasingly shitty behavior
And then get stuck with another piece of shit, with way less money behind it.
>>339229783
It's only terrible for gaming because there isn't much support for it. There isn't much support for it because the install base isn't as big. I'm not asking you to give up Windows, just to dualboot so we can get out of this quagmire. There's already been a lot of progress made so far.
>>339226803
A dumbed down spoonfeed interface like SteamOS is not the way to go.
>>339227567
If you don't install your video drivers you don't get good performance. This is not a Linux-exclusive phenomenon.
>>339218615
Vulkan performs worse than DX12
>>339217803
Because games run like shit on it.
I like Ubuntu, but it's horrible for vidya. I'd like to ditch Windows, but I'll have to stick with it until Linux gets better for gaming.
>>339230802
10 poos have been added to your loo account
>>339230802
It actually runs worse than DX11.
>>339225593
Sony had used linux as the default OS on their console thus game dev support came into existence.
Hopefully the evil that is STEAM will propagate more linux support to the point of making it a viable gaming option.
