anyone here loose all interest in this game?
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anyone here loose all interest in this game?
I tightened my interest the other day.
>>339209574
The games just not fun to play, its plagued with problems and the core mechanics are shallow and uninteresting.
just until Balrog, hopefully this weekend.
street fighter v got me laid
i won a money match and she literally took it up the butt as a bet
true facts
I wasnt happy with gief not being great but mika and Alex are p good. Without Alex being the second dlc character, i might have dropped the game until he was here.
>>339210217
Is Alex good?
>>339210118
>she
>>339210362
I don't know my gender pronounds.
>xe
>>339210781
>xe
>Not Thon/thon
You are triggering me
>>339211006
>>>Not Thon/thon
We'll we wuz in the hotel room and thon rubbed my prostate until I blew a sticky one on the sheets.
>>339209574
>loose
>>339210250
He doesn't have the best buttons, but his damage output is pretty good.
>>339209574
The best SFV player Infiltration didn't say it's too simple for no reason after all. It got old really fast.
>mfw I'm now enjoying BB more than SF due to having actual people to play in both online and offline.
Its gonna be dead after evo if they don't do something about the horrible online and pull it out of perpetual beta status.
""""""""""""""""""may"""""""""""""""""""" update
I got a used copy of this game for $20 one month after release. It's like early access for $60.
>>339209756
Pretty much this. Also the lack of players and promised updates are fucking annoying.
>>339212221
i can't wait for revelator to come out to maybe, just maybe, have some people to play.
>>339210217
More or less, he does good damage but his buttons are horrible. His DP and crouch fierce are also really fucking shitty.
>>339209574
>main Gief
>Gief sucks
>stop playing
>>339212805
>revelator
Man, don't fucking remind me. I wanna learn Johnny so much it hurts but the people I play with are hardcore BBfags. I just want it to come toPC with online that's better from the current best of 4frames lag.
>>339212221
The fuck you on? There's always people online.
>>339213201
play alex
>>339213301
Alex is only slightly better
>>339213280
Nah.
>>339213723
>Then realised this game is still an intensely stupid game with stupid mechanics like cross-up where the attack isn't blocked because he striked past a thin line your head with which you constantly have to guess where it attacks.
This HAS to be bait.
>>339213723
t. someone who spent 10 hours on the game, never having played a fighting game beforehand
>>339213723
never thought I'd be in a position to day this but damn nigga you bad
>>339213723
I don't know what you said but I want to cum inside Chun Li.
>>339213201
Thats the grapple life my man, do what I do and pocket a top teir. body buddies with HARD READS AND COMMITMENT and when an asshole online needs a whoopin' you break out that azreal, yun, faust, etc
>>339213723
He's right from a shitty perspective, even if he is terrible.
This game is boring as fuck, even compared to other Street Fighter games. Every character plays so similar you might as well just play Divekick.
Combos are boring, there is always 2-3 optimums for each set of frame punishes, everything in this game is about frame traps, which aren't fun to fuck around with online - but there wasn't an arcade release.
The game is literally only fun if you're playing couchplay with bros, otherwise (especially for newbies) this game is a fucking garbage borefest.
>>339213723
>I played street fighter only once before this
>I'd rather be playing overwatch
Thanks for sharing.
>>339214185
>>339214225
>>339214234
>he jumps kick on me
>is that kick going to hit left or right?
>fuck! It hit! Now i eat a combo+super cancel...sooo much skill an fun
Whatever idiots.
Fighting games will never work the way they are right now.
Numbers are here to prove it
Even shit games that nobody heard about before occasionally get more views on twitch.
Enjoy your soon to be dead games while people play the fun games like dota/overwatch.
>>339215456
mad cuz bad
>>339215945
just different types of shitters I guess. I got into Skullgirls because Peacock is CUTE and ended up staying for Big Band, getting in to Ultra IV, and now here I am waiting forHondain V.
>>339213234
Yo, johnny is not that hard I've been playing the demo a lot(it has almost everything the base game will have besides the dlc characters, which will come for free if you pre ordered) and johnny is great but tricky.
His attacks have some good range but one misplaced slash/high slash will sen you to oblivion since he has some really long attack animations.
Different from other characters his close Slash and far slash do not combo normally with his High slashes or with each other and his level one Mist Finer only combos after a high slash. Upwards Mist finer works as a anti air and is instant.
His specials are alright too, having a lot of fun with this nigga. I just don't like how Neutral Mist finer trows the opponent to the other side of the screen and how johnny doesn't have a running dash.
>>339214997
>>339215607
Who the fuck cares if I'm bad lol, think its a secret?
These games don't work because they are bad.
People like me are what really matter.
If casuals don't play who will give a fuck about some esports chinks winning capcuck cup?
This game is already getting dropped it has nothing new, nothing valuable for casuals to play fighting games even the roster+dlc are bland as fuck.
Look at Killer Instinct instead.
>>339217568
image is gr8
>10 million overwatch threads on /v/
>The one fighting game thread is full of people whining that even SFV, the most casual mainstream fighter is too hard
It doesnt take a genius to notice the correlation.
>>339217738
I like both, what now, faggot?
>>339217910
Hey all im saying is that the majority of /v/ is so casual that the only game they bother to play is required to be so easy anyone can pick it up and get "play of the game" by pressing q.
>>339209574
I definitely did. It might be the most boring competitively viable fighting game I have ever played
>>339213301
He's almost as shitty. His command grabs are horrible and leave you at garbage advantage too. If you want a grappler just pick Mika otherwise don't bother at all with any of them.
Nash and Chun Li are fucking better grapplers than Alex. You'll see them land grabs way more often
>>339217910
I don't like either, do I win anything?
Have they announced new character yet? do they have the money shop so I can buy costumes yet?
>>339218418
if you instant lk elbow after his throws his perfectly meaty after all his throws besides his back throw, but you're right about Nash and Chun being better grapplers
>>339218752
tomorrow. At this rate we'll actually have a [month] update at the end of that month
>>339218996
No ones falling for your bait, anon.
Nope.
>>339218996
>>339218996
>>339218991
Fucking capcom
Always the funniest SF threads. Thanks again /v/.
>>339209574
It's no SFIV, but it's still fun and has a solid, if small, roster.
The beta was fun but the game was changed between release and betas.
Shame, I had high hopes for crossplay.
I lost interest once I learned it was going to be the game I thought it would be.
>though it was going to be a footsie-based neutral-focused game with a balanced small cast of 16 characters
>instead it's MKX with 8-frames of lag and shitty footsie buttons where only half of the original 16 are viable in any way and more characters are to come though they will probably suck unless they are rushdown because SFV was designed to only be playable as a rushdown character.
>>339219340
How about you do something about it instead of bitching?
>>339219408
New Generation was bad on every level of play.
>>339219631
I am by making sure SF isn't associated with /v/ so it can have a healthy hardcore fanbase.
4000+ entrants and I'm one of them
>>339219638
As an Oro main i disagree
>>339219792
Cool , best of luck anon
>>339219621
>only be playable as a rushdown character.
u sound like u suck ass and are mad that u got exposed now that you dont have dp fadc ultra to save you anymore
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>>339220478
FGC at it again.
>>339209574
i have been playing mkx right know but i will get this soon
>>339220478
>you dont have dp fadc ultra to save you
>dp fadc was made -5 on block
>he's a scrub and never punished it
And this is coming from a Gief main. I cant dp. Sounds to me like YOU sucked ass and are happy that you got a more casual friendly game.
>>339222481
>its a dp fadc is unsafe episode
>>339223315
>its a DP FADC is safe episode
>>339224080
>its a dp fadc is unsafe episode
>>339224218
>Its a DP FADC is unsafe episode
>>339224218
>Cant even run SF4 at 60FPS
>Cant punish fadc xx backdash
MY SIDES!
>>339224495
cool dp fadc punish on a move that isnt even a dp you retard
>>339209574
>no update on the update for may
huh
>DP xx FADC is safe
Let's try to change the flow.
>Main/Sub
Switching between Chun and Necalli
>Rank/FM
Super Silver sitting on 11k
>Character you're waiting on
Juri
>Things you want added/changed
Arcade mode, some way to not have to start all the fuck over in survival, or just purchase survival colors in the store
>Characters you hate fighting
Cammy. Can't touch the bitch cause she always flailing her arms and legs. Usually at my fucking feet.
>>339225263
Ryu with Alex/Gief sub.
Silver with about 60k
Urien
Any other way to get colors but survival.
Cammy as well since her buttons outrange anything Ryu has and she can easily confirm off a poke for okay damage and apply crazy pressure afterwards.
>>339209574
>anyone here loose all interest in this game?
difficult to "lose" one's interest before it's even been piqued
>>339225712
>this is what 3Shitters think
Always a good laugh.
>>339224907
>dp fadc is unsafe
I got guilty gear xrd a few weeks before SFV came out so I was never really into it. I paid $60 dollars for SFV and I am reminded of this every time I open the game.
Hyped for revelator.
balrog is gonna make this game great again when he comes out tomorrow
>>339217568
>People like me are what really matter
Couldn't be more wrong, if you're too retarded to block a cross up they don't give a fuck what you say. Have fun with overwatch and league tho, they have more players because of the low skill celing
>>339226206
>comes out tomorrow
Fat chance, announcement tomorrow, release 31st
>>339214743
Your post is garbage but elaborate on
> Every character plays so similar
this is a fucking lie
>only allow for best connections option doesn't actually fucking work
into the god damn garbage it goes
i got it SF5 when it first came out but i've always liked KoF more than SF so im just waiting til 14 comes out more
>>339226968
>get in by jumping or dashing
>press medium buttons, v-trigger once you hit them
>do special move
>critical art
>>339224907
>every fighting game is the same
>you press buttons to execute normals and try to reduce their health gauge to zero before they do the same to you
>>339225803
enjoy your one cut-scene super... over and over and over and over... round after round after round after nauseating round... without a single decent defensive mechanic to be seen... with a roster of clowns and dregs who cannot learn a new attack in 25 years...
>>339227951
That's like that in every game. Instead of mediums it's lights.
>>339227951
You don't know anything about this game lol
>>339226137
>ITS HAPPENING.webm
>>339226035
>DP FADC is safe
>>339230134
BTFO
>>339215456
>why isn't everything retarded easy so retards like me can play
Literally cancer.
If buttons were better in SFV and damage was reduced by 20% and CA by 25% it would be my ideal fighter.
The limbs are way too short and offense is way too strong so its either yolo whiff punish or eat shit then use a reversal.
>>339232190
>Falling for such obvious bait.
Shame on you anon, shame on you.
>>339217738
/v/ is shit. Bunch of idiots that obsess over turds like Overwatch and Witcher. Split the fucking board so retarded westernfags can bath in their own retardation. I don't want any part of it.
>>339232325
It isn't. Even if it was, look how obsessed this casual shit stain of a board is with Overwatch. /v/ is dead.
>>339232464
>/v/ is dead.
then fuck off faggot
I wish /v/ didn't do tortanic.
>>339225263
>Main/Sub
Alex main, Laura/Guile/Zangief/Mika sub
>Rank/FM
I hover around Silver, I'm around 139,000 FM currently
>Character you're waiting on
Urien
>Things you want added/changed
Arcade mode, more stage transitions/unique intros, a tag team mode
>Characters you hate fighting
Ken, everyone plays fucking Ken and everyone plays him full retard. I think 60% of my total games in SFV Rank or Casual have been against Ken. Play an interesting character, jesus christ.
>>339226137
any chance they sell revelator at a discount price for those fags that bought sign?
>>339232632
Westernfag casuals first.
>>339232635
me either, but there is a serious case of disinterest in sfv. Its early launch was literal early access, and that's what's really killed it. Capcom pushing it out for that tourney cost them dearly. In the meantime the end of the month updates are a poor but respectable attempt to fix it, I mean shit the game still doesn't have its own cash shop implemented yet.
It'll be great, but its just not there yet. If capcom is hoping for sales, then they've got june to look forward to, and if that doesn't pan out then oh well. They'll still support it anyway
>>339232895
is this your first Arcsys game, perhaps?
>People still make "But SFV is bad ;-;" threads
If anybody is down for a lobby, just holler and I'll open one up.
>>339233285
hang around for about a half hour while I fap then I'll get back to you
>>339218418
You're suppose to combo into Alex's command throws.
You fucking idiot.
HUR DUR EVERY GRAPPLER DA SAME
>>339232895
nope, full price disk only. over a year behind japan. new version announced a month after you buy it.
but hey, at least it's not early access right?
>>339227951
>get in by jumping
Oh yeah no that's not a stupid thing to do at all
>>339233112
all fighting games show slow sales unless they're pokemon. (LOL fans have been crowing about that for years.)
it didn't help that a bunch of youtube reviewers beat their chests and told people to think twice before buying it, but Alpha and SF3 were like this at launch too. don't know how sf4 was received when it first came out. that first build was trash though.
>>339209574
Yeah, a few weeks after it came out.
>>339225263
>Main/Sub
Nash main, Guile/Ryu sub
>Rank/FM
Teetering between bronze and super bronze since I'm garbage at fighting games, got about 350k FM
>Character you're waiting on
Balrog, maybe Juri
>Things you want added/changed
Make survival mode less of a pain in the ass. On normal you have to slog through 20+ pathetically easy fights before fighting the difficult ones, and if you lose you have to go through all the boring ones again. More FM per win online as well, 50 is way too small and I don't see how you're going to be able to earn it at a reasonable rate once you've spent everything you get from single player, especially when the inevitable 2nd round of DLC characters happens
>>339234308
Ryu's light jab is stupid good. Use it more.
>>339225263
>Main/Sub
M.Bison. No sub.
>Rank/FM
Ultra Gold (~6800). 180k FM
>Character you're waiting on
Sakura, Yang.
>Things you want added/changed
I play on PC with v-sync off, so it doesn't affect me. But 8 frames of lag on PS4 have to go. I don't care about single player content.
>Characters you hate fighting
Any grappler. With 4-frame short range jab Bison can't poke out of some pressure situations and really vulnerable to "shimmies"
Also I hate guessing (sometimes known as "hard reads" when they guess right with command throw). I'd rather play Bison mirrors instead of grappler matchups sometimes, and I hate mirrors
>>339233285
No thanks, sfv is dogshit
the input lag is what kills it for me, other than that I really enjoy street fighter especially for its neutral game
but I have dropped it by now, maybe I'll get back into it when ibuki is out but other than that I'm not very into it anymore and there are no other good fighting games I'm interested in out right now and skullgirls online is dead so I'm kind of in a fighting game drought
>>339233285
I'll admit it, SFV is bad by fighting game standards
it's still fun to play though because it's fucking street fighter
This game is so bad that I keep trying to trick myself into buying it when there's a sale on steam.
>>339235636
have you played a fighting game before?
>Read recent interview with Itsuno
>He says "People were going to other companies for fighting games because we only had Street Fighter. So we branched out, making things like Darkstalkers, Marvel, and Saturday Night Slammmasters."
>Now they're back to only having Street Fighter again
>>339225263
>Main/Sub
Maining Bison, subbing Ryu or Alex just because he's fun as hell
>Rank/FM
Currently in Ultra Bronze. I only play maybe a match or 2 a week with my work schedule, but I'm climbing slowly
>Character you're waiting on
Probably Juri
>Things you want added/changed
The full story mode. Looks pretty hype.
>Characters you hate fighting
Good Chun and Nash players are suffering as Bison cause lolnoreversal and mediocre anti-airs.
>>339235762
Got link to interview?
And I'm guessing he's talking about the glory days of fighting games. Now the genre is relying on the same 3-4 IPs. Taking risks is gone.
>>339235871
http://www.mmcafe.com/cgi-bin/forums/bbs/messages/13594.shtml#74164
>>339235871
that's because most people at capcom who actually knew how to make fighting games left after 3rd strike
>>339233285
alright faggot I'm back, lets lobby
>>339235953
Yeah the 90's was a crazy time for fighting games. Japanese publishers were growing at a rapid pace and they were more than inclined to give their devs creative freedom due to the sheer abundance of games being made.
>>339236312
I just hope something like Skullgirls happens again but more neutral based rather than reset based
I wouldn't be opposed to Skullgirls 2 either
>>339236524
>I wouldn't be opposed to Skullgirls 2 either
never ever
there's so much bullshit surrounding even the possibility of skullgirls 2. As much as I'd want it, just let go.
>>339236597
it's very real though dude
Indivisible just needs to do well, and seeing how it's more accessible than a fighting game while retaining the amazing LZ visuals, it definitely will
>>339236692
doesn't konami own it though or some shit?
>>339236807
no, konami used to be the publisher and gave them a bunch of issues
I believe marvelous or autumn own the IP and they're not opposed to working with LZ again
I'd even be okay if it was a new fighting game IP because I'm sure it would be as good as skullgirls, easily
>>339236037
no it's cause the format (ei arcades) died after 3rd strike.
these games made fucking money in the arcades.
>>339236524
if it were neutral based it wouldn't really be skullgirls would it?
>This fucking theme kicks in
>A bunch of goofy background nonsense going on
They could've just had like a cameo or two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUZsqP2u8XM
>>339237139
maybe all the talented people left because of that
I'd want some good money for making good fighting games
>>339237197
well it doesn't have to be completely neutral based, just slight nudge towards it
things like valentines sHP is what made the game great for me
in neutral, sHP sidestep --> counterhit --> green vial ---> massive combo made my dick hard every single time
jHP spamming filias had NO chance against that
They should have used GGPO.
Everyone should just use GGPO.
There's no excuse that SF5 and Xrd netcode are so shit when I can play 20 year old games with effectively 0-1 frame delay.
>people actually think USF4 is less casual than V
>desperately wantibukibefore EVO
She's gonna make it, right guys?
Nope, Laura is still fun to play and I'm interested in rog, ibuki and Juri
It's not uncommon for people to completely lose interest in a fighting game after a few months not everyone can commit, especially more casual players.
I'm still playing it, played sf4 for years as well.
>>339236524
No way LabZero would do a game like Skullgirls again. They're all fed up in the SJW meme.
>>339237407
even if they used GGPO, they would've fucked up implementing it and messed it up either way
they couldn't even get the controller drivers right
>>339237565
did you ignore this? >>339236692
>>339237407
If it was as easy as everybody thought, then they would've probably implemented it by now. It took MikeZ a fuck ton of time to implement it in SG.
>>339237565
>They're all fed up in the SJW meme.
you don't even know what you're talking about
kill yourself you regurgitating faggot
>>339219408
Hyper Fighting is the best SF2
Alpha 2 is much better than 3
New Generation is a terrible game
Super was better than Ultra
This list sucks
>>339237750
Kill yourself Ravid, you NeoFag sellout.
Before SFV came out
>SFV is going to solve all the broken horrible stuff in SFIV guys!
After SFV came out
>SFIV WAS LITERALLY PERFECT GUYS WE SHOULD ALL GO BACK
played 100 hours the first month
haven't touched the game since. will probably pick it up again once urien comes out
I haven't followed this but did they ever say anything about fixing the input lag?
Definitely lost all interest when Revelator came out.
>>339238074
No, because it was never a bug
I never was interested in the game to begin with. Just interested in the waifus.
>>339213234
>the people I play with are hardcore BBfags
I'm so sorry. Get new people to play with fast.
>>339238253
I know but plenty of people that have a high standing in the FGC complain about it
>>339219408
Super was better than Ultra thohgh
>>339209574
Never picked it up. Call me when it has a proper arcade mode with single player. Don't have enough time to git gud online. I was and still am super excited, but when pokken tournament, a fighting game spin off of an RPG of a dead system sells more than the biggest fighting game franchise of all time.you fucked up. So.. no, fuck that, I refuse to buy unfinished games.
>>339238295
It hurts the game a lot, but I doubt they're competent enough to fix it.
If it was intended to help the netcode out a bit, they were not very insightful.
>>339238295
Every competitive community gets a new thing to complain about every month. This is what the game was made with, that's how it is gonna stay cause it wouldn't be a fix but a change to the entire game and balance
>>339238539
you're dense, right
>>339238539
karin rape by a mob of niggers
>>339209574
>ask for games on /vg/ daily
>more out of routine than because I actually want to boot it up
>even there no one plays it anymore
Stick a bone in it
>>339209574
never bought it
shit too easy im the best
/thread
>>339238539
>8 frame delay
>Competitive
No. You might as well go play some shit game like LoL if you're okay with that.
>>339239128
better than the 10000000 versions of comeback mechanics found in usf4
>>339239194
They're both shit
>>339239194
please stop defending the input lag, you're embarassing yourself
it is OBJECTIVELY bad to have this much input lag in a fighting game, no excuses
>>339239128
>Competitive
You actually need people to be playing the game for this to be true, and the only game with a decent sized community is sfv
>>339239351
you don't know what that word means do you
>>339239406
If you don't have enough people playing your game it is not competitive. You actually need a decent sized scene to really get into what the game can do and provide some real competition
>>339239351
That's why I don't play fighting games anymore.
Here's to hoping KoF14 doesn't fuck up their netcode like every other time.Fuck it, I'm just going to go play Overwatch.
>>339237883
Every game everytime
>>339239338
Seems more than acceptable to the vast majority of the fgc who are playing it
Maybe you should stop getting butthurt about something you didn't even care about before
>>339239790
Not him, but I definitely cared about the 2f input lag in SF4. It's an extremely simple genre, there's really no excuse.
>>339239790
People suffer through it because SF is where the big esports money is
Which is dumb since like less than 1% of players will ever actually make any money
>>339237779
>Alpha 2 is much better than 3
lolno
>>339239525
competitive =/= people are playing it
skullgirls barely has people playing online, it is still a competitive game
it's not defined by the amount of users but inherently by the game's design
>>339239790
because they have no other choice but to accept it, they KNOW the input lag is fucking bad
doesn't mean it's okay for the game to have it
I mean there are retards like you in the world, and that's really fucking shitty but I can't do anything but accept it
>>339238413
Tekken is the biggest fighting franchise of all time though
It needs a higher juggle limit
>>339238413
>Call me when it has a proper arcade mode with single player. Don't have enough time to git gud online.
>>339238413
You're better off getting good online. A cpu can't simulate a human. Arcade more is okay for getting acquainted with a character though
>>339241865
Said no one ever
>>339242217
Look at the sales numbers
>>339242217
based retardbro dropping the knowledge
>>339219408
V is a legit great game and has one of the best SF gameplays. Fags are just mad that it panders to people that actually want to git gud at the game instead of casual shits, and thats a fact with the half assed single player modes.
Can you blame them tho?
SF was always considered this legit "hardcore" multiplayer competitive game and when it finally goes all out to be like this its suddently "bad" and pandering to "competitive and twitch fags".
>>339242917
>V is a legit great game and has one of the best SF gameplays. Fags are just mad that it panders to people that actually want to git gud at the game instead of casual shits
nah, its literally casual garbage made for casual retards who are shit at fighting games.
The game is a laughing stock
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2015/sep/12/i-feel-it-too-simple-yeah-too-simple-infiltration-discusses-street-fighter-5-fears-game-will-be-too-reliant-5050-situations/
>>339242917
>V is a legit great game and has one of the best SF gameplays
LOL No, just no.
I wish Bison had his dash from earliest betas, where he had regular dash normally and teledash in V-trigger.
Right now his regular dash is the slowest dash in the game, it's easy to react to (purple smoke visual clue) and dash invincibility in regular dash doesn't help him, and actually allows some meaty combos. Like in Bison mirror you can punish dash with meaty st.MK, st.lp xx blast/scissors.
For all this shit SFIV gets at least it was fun to watch before Elena. SFV is not fun to watch at all.
>>339243706
Elena is hella fun to watch in USF4
This explains everything
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/may/28/capcom-rep-confirms-street-fighter-5-matchmaking-sometimes-uses-relay-servers/
>>339243263
Every Capcom game has tried to appeal to casuals all the way back to Alpha. You're quoting people months before release and the game has the largest tournament playerbase in fighting game history. It's a flawed game, but far from the laughing stock unless you count welfare fags from other games who desperately try to get SF players to quit so they can do all the work for their games.
>>339241562
lolyeah
The only thing 3 has going for it is a bigger roster. People like to parrot Alpha 3 as some great game because it introduced characters like Mika and Cody, but as far as being an actual solid fighting game is concerned, Alpha 2 is a million miles better
>>339242917
>Fags are just mad that it panders to people that actually want to git gud at the game instead of casual shits
But this is the exact opposite of what's true, anon
The game is so homogenized and "simple" that it turns away people looking for competitive depth
Honestly people probably shouldn't be mad because these games aren't made for "FGC" players, they're made to be bought in droves by casual players. Capcom is a business
>>339243898
lolno Alpha 2 is a broken pile of shit.
Its glitched to fuck and horribly unbalanced, its also so unfninished characters have no close/far attacks and only 2 pallets each.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5CscridX_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeQzR5Y3hJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BG58tywljI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMPKYFkkXqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5LFwW_R9UA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ig-E8sBK18
Alpha 3 shits all over Alpha 2 in every possible way.
>>339244120
I really hope you don't think Alpha 3 is balanced or not broken in any way because you're in for a big fucking surprise when you finally play it
>>339215945
But everything in that post is true, bisons grab range, bad shoto players, and shitty useless/pointless target combos
>>339244120
This.
There's a reason why Alpha 2 is dead while Alpha 3 still has an active playerbase.
Hell just look on fightcade, literally no one plays A2
>>339244254
>while Alpha 3 still has an active playerbase
where? Fightcade is filled with A-ism BRs and everyone links the 8 man a-cho tournaments that happen with Japs who play everything.
Alpha is a trash series. There is a reason why SF2 and SF3 still have tournaments, but Alpha is all but dead.
>>339242917
sorry to burst your bubble but SF was never considered what you think it was considered, it or any other fighting game in existence (except for maybe Rising Thunder, but that doesn't exist no more lol) has never been
>this legit "hardcore" multiplayer competitive game
that is not what fighting games are set out to be, delude yourself all you want but - by modern fighting game standards - 9f of input lag is absolutely ridiculous
sure, the game is fun in its design (which isn't a surprise since it's just the SF formular at work here) but execution of said formular and "quality of life" have suffered immensely
it's hilarious that Skullgirls has a character that LITERALLY gives the opponent 9f of input lag as a "debuff" for a short period of time and it's really disrupting - but SFV just has that innately because whot he fuck knows why
>>339243263
I'm amazed at your determination to shitpost in every SFV thread
>>339244234
Bison's grab range is fine. His only setup off back throw (df.HP meaty) only works properly on midscreen. Meanwhile Mika gets strong setups off normal grab on crouching opponent anywhere.
For character with no overhead, no command grab and somewhat bad pokes, no 3f normal, long normal grab is a must.
>>339216983
if honda was in i'd be playing right by you dude
truly the greatest of characters
>>339209574
>loose
>>339244120
I mean I guess you've never played anyone decent using V-ism? Or seen a crouch cancel infinite or gotten OTG command grabbed into a reset
Koihime is the better sfv anyways, fuck that game is intense
http://www.strawpoll.me/10339459
>>339244761
>please buy my game so i finally have someone to battle with online
>>339244676
V-ism is the norm, Crouch cancel is extremly hard to setup and if you actually get hit by it it was your own fault, OTG command throw is literally nothing and only works while Vism is activated.
Compare this to unblockable 100% CC's and easy to set up infinites from Alpha 2, Rose cr.strong, Chun cr.roundhouse and how fast you build meter in A2.
Urien is the next character.
>>339244876
You don't get it! GG/KoF/my shitty anime game no one has heard of is totally going to beat out SF and become huge!
>>339244973
I get your point but don't you dare trash talk about guilty gear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbfik5Qxjz4
>>339245075
>They made vega a shoto
People actually take this manchild seriously
>>339244921
>V-ism is the norm
Do you think this is a good thing
It's the norm because it's far and away the most broken mechanic and you're intentionally gimping yourself if you don't pick it
>OTG command throw is literally nothing
Nope, as I said they can set up horrible resets. When you've just ate a high damage V-ism combo and are now going into a guess that's pretty far from nothing
Like I can see the appeal of Alpha 3 from the perspective of enjoying the retardation of it like HnK or Basara X or whatever but saying that it's a more fundamentally sound game than A2 is just plain wrong
>>339209756
I agree 100%, I want it to die so people move on to better games.
SFV is okay.
That's it, I've never been invested in fighting games enough to just play against randoms all day with exceptions being Alpha 2, ST and Marvel 2. So I didnt expect that i'd be playing it a whole lot but on the whole I think maybe I should have just skipped out on this one.
I played a while hoping i'd just fall in love with a character but that didnt happen wheras any other capcom fighting game I usually just feel something for one or two characters right away.
It'll gather dust, I'll return periodically as new characters release but with my friends not being interested either it's in the RIP folder on my steam list.
I might join if someones hosting now though? May be an opportunity to learn the game and really get into it. UK players about?
>>339245215
More likely that if SFV dies they'll just stop playing altogether. The majority of SF players are only in it for SF and not for fighting games in general
>>339245075
what a fucking retard
>wah wah he changed my game i'm not happy
holy shit this guy should just stop
>>339245279
That describes me, I mean if not SF i dont think i'd play anything other than old fightcade shit for the novelty
>>339209574
The only thing loose is your butthole, faggot
>>339245150
Theres nothing "Broken" about V-ism, its the most used because it has the most versatility.
Level 3 supers deal just as much damage as V-ism combos.
V-ism also makes otherwise garbage tier characters viable.
>Nope, as I said they can set up horrible resets. When you've just ate a high damage V-ism combo and are now going into a guess that's pretty far from nothing
No, no they cant, you can only do OTG throws while V-Ism is activates and it only works with command throws, theres no reset at all, you literally have no idea what you are talking about.
You would have to be an absolute retard to think the broken mess that is A2 was somehow more fundamentally sound than A3.
Once again A3 is still alive while A2 is dead
A2 is dead for a reason, the game is a broken mess unfit for competitive play
When is combo breaker supposed to end ? I can't wait for the "special" announcementand be utterly disappointed because there's nothing special in announcing a character at the literal end of the month
>>339245531
>Once again A3 is still alive
where? Fucking afkers in Fightcade? Where?
>>339213234
>that pause after every hit
Is there a technical reason for this?
I see it happen in basically EVERY fighting game except maybe MK
Do I use that for something? Usually in SFV I do my inputs too fast because of this pausing and it throws me off my combos every time and gets me punished hard
>>339245778
Probably to make sure you can get off the correct hitconfirm. Depending on whether you get a crouching hit, a CH, or a regular one, you'll want to go for different options.
Have we had a single SFV thread since launch without shitposting OP?
>>339210250
not really, just play ryu
>>339244120
alpha 3 is also broken u retard.
crouch cancel infinites gtfoh
>>339209574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEscAR2YCIE
Game is perfectly fine, I don't see an issue.
10/10
>>339246205
Alpha 2 has way easier infinites to both setup and keep going than crouch cancel.
>>339213280
This is kind of a poor estimate because we know PC is over represented in the top 50, being only around 10% of purchases but 34% of the top 50, But just for my own interest:
>Current PC players = 1129
>PC players in top 50 = 17 (34%)
>Assuming the top 50 is indicative of the rest of the playerbase
>Extrapolate out to PS4 = 3320 total players right now
>>339247092
no. as an a2 vet I can say it has no infinites I know of, just CCs
>>339215456
it's this mentality that is sending street fighter to its grave, they dumbed it down so fucking hard with SFV its not fun to play anymore.
>>339247216
Wrong see >>339244120
>>339246574
>Bronze shitters
>>339225263
>Main
Bison. No other character has clicked for me, trying out Dhalsim currently.
>Rank FM
Bouncing between UBronze and Silver, don't play much Ranked.
150k FM, didn't buy Alex or Guile
>Waiting for
Cody, Guy,Haggar.
>Want
Low-Rank Shadaloo Soldier as a playable character.
More new faces in the cast rather than mostly returning cast members.
A mode of play where you choose two characters to fight with, each lasting for one KO, sort of KOF style.
>Hate fighting
Anyone with an invincible reversal DP.
>>339247836
I didnt know you got better hitboxes the higher rank you got.
Weird on capcoms part
>>339245778
it's called hitstop, it's usually 15 frames in fighting games which is average human reaction time. It's there so hit confirming is even possible.
>>339244404
the fuck are you posting that pic for? I'm gold league too and I get raped at my locals. Gold ain't shit.
>>339248040
>it's only because of the weird hitboxes I lost, not because I suck ass
>>339248228
>Losing somehow excuses shitty hitboxes in a poorly made game
>>339248632
>one weird hitbox means all hitboxes are poorly made
Leave, shitter.
>>339248692
This is what SFV babies ACTUALLY believe...
>>339249105
>making excuses for being bad
Stay mad.
>thread still up
/v/ slow as fuck today.
>>339217272
Sounds a lot like how he played in previous installments but then again, I sucked big time in those and am actually grateful to Xrd for making it even a little easier to do combos, at least that's how I feel when I play it. That part about him being vulnerable after a lot of his Slash-HighSlash buttons seems pretty familiar is all I'm saying but from what I'm seeing in streams, his new tools are amazing.
>>339238280
Eh, its not that bad, they don't hate GG, just like BB more and I can't force them to learn a new game from scratch, some of them have been grinding 7+ years on it. Also Kagura is fun.
Of course
>Fraudulent fighting
>Shitty online
>Shitty roster
>Slow as fuck character releases with no fanfare
>DUDE SFII LMAO
I can't believe I bought a PS4 for this shit.
>>339216983
>le mike ross meme
>>339249250
>Making excuses for a broken poorly made game
Stay mad.
>>339249519
>Buying any new console for one game
At least you have BB and will be getting Nier 2
>>339250273
>being bad, being mad
>>339238421
yea they were, they based it off people crowing about ggpo, which is essential input lag, then decided if they put the lag in from the get go, (and standardized it, rather than every other game out there.) it would help online players adapt to tourneys.
not saying i agree with it. but i can guess where they're coming from
Hit supergold with laura a few months ago and haven't touched it since.
Maybe a new main like Chun could reinvigorate it for me. I must have put in 2k hours with her in SFIV
>>339249321
is blazblue worth getting into? I'm tired of sfv.
>>339209574
You know what I signed in for the first time yesterday since the day Alex was released. Thought to myself "Ya know what it's been a while, a couple of months really, they must have fixed it by now."
>still no arcade mode
>still no option to buy characters with fight money
>still horrendous waiting times to get into an online match
>even worse matchmaking criteria with a smaller playerbase, I was bronze league and I played 5 games, 3 were against high end silver players who destroyed me without a second thought and 2 were against rookies that looked like they literally hadnt played before
This game is fucking dead to me.
Dropped it after 70 hours. I guess I'll pick it up again for a bit to try out the DLC characters but nothing more.
>>339250872
>is blazblue worth getting into?
Yes. The franchise is overall solid despite what some shitters may say, but it does take dedication. Execution in it is among the hardest of the fighting games currently on the market, and optimized combos are key.
>>339251138
How active is it? I'm guessing it's dead on pc so I might buy it on ps3.
>>339209574
after overwatch came out I literally played it once.
>>339251297
In my experience on PC, I don't have trouble finding games any day unless it's during bad hours for my region. I'm EU though so it might be different from americans.
On console there are jack shit for EU players but I'm sure there are way more americans.
Thought everyone hated sfiv before v came out, now everyone loves iv again?
>>339209574
I fucking love SFV, but the fact that I don't get paired with other Super/Ultra Silvers anymore is slowly draining the fun. I'm tired of fighting a lot of Super Bronzes and Super Golds, but nothing in between. I realize I need to go find rivals on SRK or something, though, I just don't want to deal with the anxiety of meeting new people right now.
>>339251297
Jokes on you, its pretty dead on console as well.
Go to japans arcades if you don't want to join steam/forum groups and actually make internet friends to play.
>>339251138
As far as skill goes, Guiles new movement options require a pretty highexecution level
>>339251553
This always happens when a sequel comes out. USFIV was a solid game but it did have many flaws that are being entirely disregarded or having weak justifications given for them.
Even if SFV ends up staying as bad as it is now for it's entire lifespan, if an SFVI comes out then you can bet people will act the same about this game as they do for it.
>>339250872
Its an entirely different beast from SFV. A true anime fighter if you wanna call it that, with various mechanics you always gotta remember to use, much more setup play and big combos. I'd say its one of the more difficult games in the genre right now because of the learning curve. Still if you're interested you could always pirate to get a feel of the controls/characters and if you see anything you like go for it.
>>339251297
I don't really know about that since I play with irl people. I'm guessing its less active from other games but I do see frequent EU online tourneys happening.
>>339251620
Wow. So the top ranks are all cheaters, huh?
>>339249321
>Sounds a lot like how he played in previous installments
More or less, with the ability to use mist finer in the air and different effects for every mist finer changes his game significantly.
>>339251703
Joke's on you, I think that USF4 is still terrible, 3rd Strike is better, and SFV is the best of the three.I'm an '11er.
>playing zanigief
>everyone online is nash, karin, ken
Did they announce the new shit for May yet or what? I've heard no discussion over it.
Is Necalli Mexican?
>>339252576
Supposedly we'll hear something tonight, during some tournaments.Literally CTRL+T, "sfv may update", search tools, past week
>>339252576
Finals of Combo Breaker today, they'll do it there apparently.
>Don't play it for a few weeks
>Revert back to garbage scrub mode
>Greeted by super gold nashes over and over again when I return
>Can't just grind online all night cause my stick literally got me noise complaints
>>339251917
Tis no cheater. Tis a synthetic lifeform.
It's a sentient being unlike no other.
A machine to bring freedom...
A man to save the world...
>>339252797
>>339252823
I still don't get the point of waiting until the last fucking minute to announce a new character.
I can't wait to play Urien this month.
>>339253260
following the schedule of their nigger fanbase
>>339253260
As if every other decision they've made so far makes any sense.
>>339251413
>On console there are jack shit for EU players
ayy fuck you m8
>>339253083
>a strange game, the only winning move is not to play
>>339251917
that's tool assisted, retard
>>339253083
>People were calling this the best SF of all time
i lost interest as soon as i heard there would be alpha counters
then they censored cammys intro
then i saw necalli, rashid, and that ugly chinese dude
then i heard that you cant combo off of light punches
then i heard 8 FRAMES
i don't even want to know what else went wrong
patiently awaiting KoF
>>339251413
Thanks anon, I just noticed it costs 5€ on a key site so I'm gonna try it out
>>339209574
Not all, but a lot now. I'm more interested in Xrd and TKOF14 coming up.
>>339254526
Wait nevermind it's the old version, FUCK
>>339254445
also i forgot, guile infinite
>>339254445
there's literally nothing wrong with necalli
>you cant combo off of light punches
yes you can, you just can't get big damage off of them like in sf4
also some characters like bison can still confirm into super from jabs
>>339251620
That's some Jacobs ladder shit right there
>>339254617
Guile's long combos are are hard to execute, require specific setups and are mostly useless.
It's impressive how quickly Capcom killed Street Fighter again.
>>339254612
Got me excited to hear about that site for a minute there anon.
Latest version is Chrono Phantasma Extend, new version: Central Fiction is coming out in winter for EU/US, 2-3 months earlier for JP. No PC release, gotta wait for it to slowly wither away in consoles until we can have it.
>>339254623
he's ugly
>can't get big damage off of them
then what's the point? I understand if you can't do much just by beating or whiff punishing from a long range, but if jabbing in that "im going to grab you" range doesn't get the big damage if it connects why am I even doing tick throw crap?
also
>birdy is back, and now a fatass
also
>stubby little girl normals
both disgusting
>>339254815
well that's nice to know
>>339254330
>Using a tool assisted video to try and prove the game is shit
Seems like Capcom has lost interest as well, because they forgot they had to update this month.
>Fighting Street Tier damage
>SF2 Tier mechanics
>3rd Strike Tier balance
>SFIV Tier e-sports pandering
>unfinished launch to pander to said e-sports
>still no punishment for RQ's
>no T. Hawk
It's still a fun game IMO
>>339255134
What's wrong with the balance?
>>339255028
you can combo into heavier normals on counter hit
>>339209574
What's with the matchmaking in this game? I bought the game a few weeks ago and I'm a complete beginner. I get matched with 1500-3000 LP players exclusively and I somehow managed to get 700 LP but it's still the same.
Where are all the other noobies?
>>339255216
Game is built around footsies and easy hit confirms, so the characters with best footsies and hit confirms (Nash, Chun, Karin, Ryu, for example) dominate the rest.
>>339255482
They dropped the game because no arcade.
>>339255134
I hate the whole "esports" thing capcom is forcing this game to be.
>>339255549
then why is ken so good even though his neutral is wank?
>>339255482
Good luck getting higher since every time you beat someone a league or two above you, they RQ
>>339245279
And what other better fightan are there in this gen?
>>339255724
Thankfully I've only ran into two ragequitters so far
>>339255704
Because 8 frames
>>339254249
>>339254330
mikas are easy if you just have mad reads like this.
>>339255078
>tool assisted
>he doesn't know
This is 2.0 friend.
He killed his brother and used him as fuel to reach new heights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8nHEaYyL8g
>>339255704
Easy hit confirms that lead to huge combos. Invincible reversals are nice too because meaties are GOAT in crouch jab meta.
>>339255839
>got hit by Nadeshiko
woooooooooow
>>339255134
>still no punishment for RQ's
you gotta be shitting me
they still haven't implemented anything since launch?
>>339255549
Then explain Mika
Where were you when you heard that Gief had passed away?
>>339255839
>mad reads
>Just blocking
>>339256072
don't worry, knowing capcom they'll go overboard with the buffs and break him again
>>339255993
>functional vortex in a game with the design philosophy "no vortexes allowed"
It's not rocket science
>>339254972
Well I'm gonna try to pirate it first to see if I like it, I'm too much of a jew to pay 27€ immediately.
>>339256247
You do that, game is certainly not for everybody and I'm not sure its online on PC is alive enough, so experiment with it.If you decide to get into its story please enlighten me too, confused as all hell.
>>339238738
>ask for games
>/vg/
u dumb as fuck
I just wish zangief was better.
Give me back my green hand so I can get over a 70% win rate again.
I stopped playing SFV because the game was too broken and decided to wait until it gets patched because it was too suffering waiting 5 minutes between each match to play a laggy unresponsive mess. And I mean patched as in fixed not "a new dlc is out!"
Now I even stopped watching it. Not only every character plays similar but every player plays the same. It's really boring.
>>339257760
Well it's not like /v/ plays fighters.
>>339250995
>even worse matchmaking criteria with a smaller playerbase, I was bronze league and I played 5 games, 3 were against high end silver players who destroyed me without a second thought and 2 were against rookies that looked like they literally hadnt played before
>super bronze
>play ALL DAY
>probably run into 7 other super bronze and silver players
>rest was gold and platinum players that just fuck around because they noticed i'm a scrub
>fuck with me all match and decide to whoop me and my salt levels are rising because it took me 5-7 minutes to get paired up with the gold player
>decide to give it my all next time after seeing his stupid habits
>no rematch
>lobbies are still fucked
>bars are inaccurate
>cant stand 8 player lobbies since I need more games under my belt
I like the game but its unfun unfinished garbage and a game as big as SF has no business coming out at a state like this just having proper matchmaking would make me less salty so I hear ya.
I did because SFV is because it is effectively an early access title.
I'll get back to it when it is properly "released'.
>>339255789
Killer Instinct
>>339248207
to prove that I actually play (read: played) the game
>>339256646
>If you decide to get into its story please enlighten me too
What on earth had you confused during CP? That was the most straightforward out of all the titles, despite being the worst.
me
>>339252363
>Plays Alex
>Everyone si Either a shoto and some one with a reversal.
They just sit back or do jumps ins after a knock down
>All of them just use the hit lp/k into grab mix
I fucking hate how this game plays.
>>339261115
I meant the general story, not just what happens in the latest one. Actually haven't even started on that one's story mode yet for fear of being even more confused. All I kinda know is the basic principles of the world in BB but I don't clearly understand what role each character plays in the story.
I started doing way better playing as karin then the other characters I wanted to play. Is she just strong and fraudulent or was she just a good pick for me?
This is eating me up inside because I don't feel like I deserve my wins.
>>339209574
Everybody bitches about the new street fighter being broken. But, you have been asking for a street fighter alpha and capcom delivered one
is SF5 going to die faster then SFxT? ... i hope not those DLC characters better hurry up
>>339261475
What exactly is fraudulent about Karin? She's just a well rounded character with great buttons.and fast walk speed
>>339262174
Well I win a lot due to her vtrigger and damage. It seems overwhelming to deal with for the opponent and I can even steal games from better players with it.
>>339261283
>All of them just use the hit lp/k into grab mix
It gets boring as fuck desu. I play Karin, and mixing it up between frametraps and shimmies is pretty much all there is to pressure in this game.
>>339262174
her damage ?
Even Ryu's damage is only tickling compared to hers
>That feel when You main Necalli and come up agains a good Berdie
Fucking t-rex limbs man
>>339260780
Nah, no matter what KI will forever be the worst 2D style fighter.
>>339262308
Her rekkas are only good as a combo extension tool though. Using them on block turns into a guessing game that's heavily in the opponents favour.
>>339262418
She does get huge damage off hard punishes with meter, but a lot of her combos will start from st.lk or cr.mp which scales down most of the big damage.
Compared to characters like Nash, Ryu and Bison her damage output seems pretty fair desu
>>339262836
She can make them safe, go in for a slightly unsafe option that if succesful turns into more safe pressure because frametrap or create a wakeup mixup if she uses them during a juggled opponent. Definitely not only good for combo extenders.
>>339263067
Her CA damage is off the rails though. How does a bare-handed girl do more damage with her CA than a guy with a metal claw?
>>339262418
She requires meter to do any truly significant damage, which is fair since her footsie game is deadly.
>>339255980
They have. He's just being a retard.
Thing is: It's not really discouraging ragequitters.
>May 30
>still nothing about the new character
What the fuck happened? They did a big stream with Guile and now they've gone back to complete radio silence
>>339263379
>significant
Only ryu and ken off the top of my head can give similar damage with no meter
>>339263559
Gief and Alex also put out massive damage with no meter but mainly due to their character archtypes.
>>339263226
The rekka backdash is like -14 or something, most characters can punish it with an EX move or CA. Most other options she can just be jabbed out of. The options that beats jabs are unsafe as fuck on block, so if they're blocked you'll eat a full punish.
Like I said, it's a guessing game that heavily favours the opponent. Most people are just completely unaware of how fucking shitty the frame data actually is.
>>339263226
>go in for a slightly unsafe option that if succesful turns into more safe pressure because frametrap
What option would that be? I tend just to cancel her Rekkas immediately if they're blocked
>>339263717
I knew it
Its just fraudulence. Those mixups I was doing weren't safe.
>>339263717
>The rekka backdash is like -14 or something, most characters can punish it with an EX move or CA
Just went training, had the training dummy chun do ex.legs after blocking as a reversal, did the rekka into backdash and then blocked. She didn't get hit. Did the same thing with reversal CA of Nash, she still didn't get hit.
Which characters punish that mate? I don't see it unsafe at all.
>>339264247
Her rekka into down punch combination. If you press the down punch 2 times after rekka she does an elbow strike then goes the other way for cross-up hit right? Don't do the crossup and stay on the elbow strike. Next button after the elbow strike ends will be a frametrap, preferably st.lk or if you're feeling lucky any medium punch.
how many traps are there in the fgc?
>>339264247
it's safe, just don't go for the overhead or the command grab, it only loses to DPs, which can be baited
>>339265431
Experimented some more. You were right after all. CA of Alex, Ryu and Chun all hit her on the backdash.
I still don't see how this benefits them and not her. The window of punishing is literally reversal timing and raw CA damage is absolutely not worth it compared to keeping and using it for anything else. I'm really not seeing how her rekkas are bad here even if unsafe by some extremely tight and meter wasting punishes.
The netcode is still too inconsistent to be worth playing the game. They fix it and I'll play it again.
When does SFV combo breaker come on?
>get a shitty conection with lag everywhere
>send match result flawlessly
>get a great conection that runs as smooth as butter
>game reminds me every 10 secounds that it can not judge the match result
Literally how does this shit system work capcom
Attention at ded thred
Combo Breaker has started. Ofc not in SF yet as they'll probably be doing the finals for all other game present in the tournament but I figured I should at least inform. The supposed update will be announced during this final day of the tournament so yeah, that.
>>339266287
What makes them bad is that mashing jab will beat most of her follow-ups, and just blocking will beat the others. Blocking the unsafe options will also give the opponent more payoff than you would've gotten if you landed them.
The CA punishes is just icing on the cake. The fact that some reversals will beat every follow-up she has, even the one that's meant to bait reversals, is just really fucking shitty.
>>339267702
>still watching tourneys
kek
lost interest after I learned that all grapplers suck
luckily I hadn't bought the game yet
>>339267702
https://combobreaker.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/CB2016_Event_Schedule_Final.png
>putting SFV top 16 at the same time as Melee top 8 and Tekken 7 exhibition
Fucking why
insiderbro here
>>339266287
There are also a few ex moves that can punish it, Mika's ex reversal and Alex's ex Chop for example.
Still I don't think it's not worth doing in most instances, you just have to be aware of your opponents meter
>>339267912
Yet I don't see how this puts her in more disadvantage than other players. Those reversals can beat anything in the game, her being an exception would be unfair no? After all the whole meat of the game is to bait thos reversals and she has as many tools as others do to do just that. She looks balanced to me, having a completely safe vtrigger would be the unbalanced option honestly.
>>339268203
>Alex's ex Chop
Gonna have to try that too since I main him and all. Agreed though, the pressure she can do is worth it even in getting opponent to spend bar.
>>339267912
how is corner carry and chip damage good for the other player again?
but anyway i don't think her v-trigger is unbalanced, it's ok, only people that should be complaining about their v-trigger are Gief and Fang mains.
>tfw about to hit 3k lp memeing with karin's v-trigger
Can nobody really deal with this? I'd hate to fight a player that knows what they are doing. This is why I was saying I felt fraudulent.
>>339219876
Didn't oro not have his doublejump until 3S?
>>339239338
what an angelic bird.
>>339245778
http://sourcegaming.info/2015/11/11/thoughts-on-hitstop-sakurais-famitsu-column-vol-490-1/
>>339268881
Karin main with 5K+ points here, Gold Rank players will blow you up, I can guarantee it.
>>339262352
>literally played(and lost because i was so pissed about it) a super bronze ken that did 2 things.
>lp/k mix up
>Walk back until i dashed and hit tried to hit me with a low fierce kick.
>Sit back and do nothing
i guess every character should have a reliable reversal to avoid this type of shit.
>necalli's cr.mp is +4 on hit
>Disc's guidance lp has 18 frames of stratup
>you can combo one into another
How? Even being a cancel, there are only 8 frames of recovery in the cr.mp. How does that compensate for the 18 frames of start up?
>>339269496
Probably causes enough hitstun
>>339269496
cr.mp has 13f of recovery
>>339269287
Thats the thing dude I'm fighting gold players. I'm winning like almost 200 pts per game.
I don't find other silver players. I'm at like 2.9k now. I'm not even good.
>>339268881
Are you using her Rekkas to safely hit confirm into Super or going for the follow up mix ups? Because if it's the latter then good players will punish that shit more times than not.
The best thing about Karin's V-Trigger imo is the insane damage she can get by just fishing for st.HK. Even if they block she still has a great mix up opportunity off of her V-Trigger activation
>>339269821
Trust me, you'll run into opposition soon.
>>339269780
Oh yeah, that's right. I mistook it for the cr. lp's recovery.
>>339270146
I like her but I hope I don't develop bad habits because of this. I know I will run into good opponents its just I don't like winning when I feel fraudulent. I did fight one ryu that stopped rekkas but I caught him with a rekka into slide and he kept mashing on wakeup and kept eating meaties.
>>339270404
Nothing wrong with that. He didn't adapt while you did.
>>339270404
In a game where a wakeup from knockdown is a legit 50/50 for every character even a mash dp is a legit tactic. Again, the meat of the game is having the read on your opponent and baiting said opponent into doing the things you want him to do.
Why do you think Inflitration, the supposed strongest player of SFV at the moment, says he spends more time checking out his opponents playstyle instead of training his execution?
>>339270745
>he spends more time checking out his opponents playstyle instead of training his execution
I feel like thats what I'm missing compared to the top players. I can't seem to get a read on them until like 2 games in.
Is there any trick in DPing after being cross under?
Last 3 times I tried to play it failed to send any data.
>>339270887
I have this as much as you do. In fact many other pro players have trouble in this game because of this I feel. All the exceptional execution and lightning reflexes aren't gonna help anyone in this game if they can't get a read on their opponent, this holds for any fightan sure but in SFV its the definite winning factor.
>>339271179
you score gets updated eventually
>anti air with Karin's st.hp
>cross under command dash
>go for cr.mp
>Karin punches the wrong fucking way
I've never seen this ever happen to any one else but me
Yeah all interest is gone. Ill try it again once a decent roster and some gameplay mechanics are added that actually rival USF4. So what, maybe 2 years?
do you ps4 players still block pc players?
>>339272335
I played USF4 with some friends again recently. It was amazing how many options it felt like everyone had. With FADC even guile could rush down if he wanted to.
Plus, you know, actual zoning.
even though SF3 and SF4 often get called out for their BS mechanics like safe FADC, ultras, and game-breaking parries, the older games were much more entertaining to watch
the approach with SF5 just feels too conservative and hardly innovating
>>339261413
>try to write up an explanation over every single character's story throughout all the games and LNs
>realize that after an hour I'm not even done with Ragna
Just play all the characters and all of their routes in all of the games. That should give you a sufficient idea of everything.
If you're still more curious then read Phase 0 and Phase Shift 1-2, then read summaries of Phase Shift 3-4.
If you're interested in Mai and Naoto, then read Remix Heart and Bloodedge Experience summaries respectively.
I still really love the characters and the story in BB, but it's really hard to explain thoroughly without taking forever.
>>339272642
At least with FADC you had to choose between a safe wakeup and doing good damage later on, and you know actually manage your meter. Everything in 5 feels so rote.
>>339209574
Played it briefly, didn't enjoy it a whole lot.
I just did.
>Against guile
>literally cannot win
>literally
>cannot
>do anything
>it's like a ryu that has an instant shoryuken ready for jump ins after spamming hadoken
Literally all you have to do is spam sonic booms, that shit that blocks jumps in, and hold down for an anti air kick, instant win.
SF5 was a mistake.
>>339272642
SF3 with all the whiffing to build meter is boring af, agree that watching IV is amazing though
>>339272892
literally just neutral jump
>>339273109
so?
Then what?
>>339273246
Then you think for yourself, i'm not going to play for you
See what he likes to do then react accordingly
>>339272642
Spot on.
SF4 tournaments were legit hype to watch. I don't feel the same with 5.
>>339272720
Thanks for going through the trouble anon, I'll try going through it. I just really wish the story mode was something more along the lines of what Xrd was, the multiple routes of every character in their story mode were starting to get to me after awhile. I really wish there was a library with extensive info like Xrd had, learned the entirety of the story even without playing the previous games story modes. I'll try though, I'll try because you tried too anon.
>more than half of my matches are failing to send results
at least I broke 3k
>>339273382
I don't think you understand
>neutral jump
Literally delaying your defeat
>jump in
FLASH KICK
Back to square one with guile spamming sonic booms and those other two projectiles, repeat ad infinitum until guile is the victor. This game is a piece of shit, I've played many fighting games and this is the first time that spamming the same shit over and over is literally not a meme but the most reliable guaranteed way to win.
tfw when kof14 is playstation exclusive, I'm not gonna buy a ps4 just to buy kof, ofc I can play uncharted as well, but none of that shit matters come this fall with FF and Battlefield taking at least 3 months of my time
>>339273538
>I really wish there was a library with extensive info like Xrd had
There is one in CPE.
>>339273686
You don't have to jump in you retard holy shit.
There is something called WALKING
and you can't have more than 1 sonic boom on the screen. So what do you do ? YOU WALK BETWEEN THEM
If he's not crouching he's NOT charging flash kick, so keep that in mind.
Now you stop being a fucking retard and go into training mode to get the matchup.
Who are you playing by the way ?
>>339273538
>>339272642
You people are fucking plebs when it comes to fighting games. All you want to see is flashy combos, not an interesting match. SFV is far more interesting to watch when it comes to how the dynamics change during a match.
>>339272892
Holy shit how bad are you? You would have loved fighting Guile in the earlier games
>>339273905
>If he's not crouching he's NOT charging flash kick
BULL.FUCKING.SHIT
Even when they're on knockdown and I jump in to do a crossup they do that shit, all they have to do is hold down, it doens't matter if they're actually crouching or not. Also walking in, then what? I can't do anything because his v skill is in the way and if I try to poke I'll just get hit by it.
And as soon as you block a sonic boom another one is ready and cocked to go, already active. Face it the game is shit.
>>339273686
All you need to do is be somewhat close and if the dude is spamming sonic booms like you say just wait and jump with a crossup button and your in use your buttons better than his cause his aint great up close and you can win otherwise just walk and block till your in range for a crossup jump again and repeat.
>>339274042
>dynamics change during a match.
Oh man they were playing footsies for 5 seconds then someone got a knockdown and rode the momentum like a thai prostitute, never seen that before in 5!
>>339274130
I'm done talking to you fà m.
Just stop playing video games at all if you always blame the game for your loss
>>339274130
You can hit him with a lot of lows through his vskill and that makes it disappear, theres a lot of issues with the game but this isnt one of them quit being a baby,
>>339274179
>All you need to do is be somewhat close and if the dude is spamming sonic booms like you say just wait and jump with a crossup button
Flash kick, now what?
>>339274204
>knockdowns
>mattering in SFV
>>339274042
>people only watch usf4 for combos
>when most matches were zoning and had more footsies then 5
>>339274297
congrats your crossup button beat the flashkick cause it has no invul on startup or the kick wiffed and you get a punish.
>>339274356
>SFIV
>footsies
You jest. Focus attacks legitimately killed footsies. What SFIV had wasn't really footsies.
>>339274334
>get knockdown
>setup CC
>do 60% damage
We're at a point where people intentionally don't tech grabs because the punishment for fucking up is retarded. Even without FADC it was easier to wakeup in IV.
>>339274404
Wrong, flash kick always connects.
Now what?
>>339274510
fuck off
>>339274490
And yet the game spent way more time in neutral than 5 does.it was a 10 you fuck
>>339274494
>don't press buttons
Wow, that was hard.
>>339274613
>We're at a point where people intentionally don't tech grabs because the punishment for fucking up is retarded
>>339273854
Can it provide sufficient info or do I have to play the games though?
>>339274130
The vskill has a slow startup. Sweep it before it comes out, try to be close to Guile at all times since his gameplan is to keep you away. If he knows what he's doing he'll immediately stop doing vskill while you're close, if he doesn't, sweep him to victory and bait his ex.wakeup flashkicks, his normal flashkicks don't have invinsibility so with good timing you can meaty him out of them. Watch his meter and go in accordingly. Don't jump too much.
>>339274604
Agreed, this dude is too dumb to play this game.
>>339274612
>And yet the game spent way more time in neutral than 5 does.
Not really. Especially with characters who were straight up vortex cancer like Ibuki or put you in endless blockstun like Yun or Elena.
>>339272892
>sonic booms and anti-airs
You walk forward. Don't jump in at all. Because it sounds like he's not actually fighting for space. Let him walk himself into the corner. Then you fuck him.
>>339274713
>Oh no, the tech I used for 7 years is worthless now!
Adapt, scrub.
>>339224782
Wait a minute, blockstun and fadc backdash frames are no different no matter what move you do the fadc from. It doesn't matter whether it's a DP or something else.
>>339274490
>Focus attacks legitimately killed footsies.
MAybe if you're completely ignoring focus breakers and multi-hit moves that counter focus attacks. SF4 had way better footsie game than SF5.
>>339274612And nah, 9 was an accurate score.
>>339274869
I mean regular throw techs retard.
>>339274720
It provides sufficient information over different things in the story, but character motivations and such you would be better off playing the games for.
Do not try to 100% CTs story though. It is not worth it, because to do that you have to lose every single fight and win every single fight, meaning many many playthroughts for every single character with very little variance.
Always use a guide when looking through what routes and stuff to follow, because CT will fuck you over harder than any other game you've played otherwise. There is some really specific things at times like having to lose against specific enemies to get specific Alternate Endings that will have you with no clue why your clear percentage is so low at times.
CT was the only game that did that though luckily enough. CS/E just has 2 character routes for each character, and CP is just 3 story routes.
>>339274963
You're the retard, friend. Throws are so slow and obvious in SFV, you can tech them on reaction.
>>339274886
Her EX version is the dp, not regular.
>>339275035
Yeah if only there weren't some sort of input delay stopping that from working.
Even the pros will take throw after throw in a row.
>>339228414
>one cut-scene super... over and over and over and over...
>What is aegis reflector
>What is dengin hadouken
>What is Genei-jin
>>339275035
>you can tech them on reaction
No you can't, you fucking retard.
>>339251138
>Execution in it is among the hardest of the fighting games currently on the market
Holy shit, if you aren't playing Carl and maybe Arakune execution is easy as fuck in BB what the fuck are you talking about
>>339275019
Alright, I'm gonna do that. Appreciate all the info anon.
>>339274890
Multi-hitting moves usually had a lot of recovery, so throwing them out when someone wasn't focus attacking meant eating a counter. Even when focus attacking, you could often backdash out before the second hit. There were so many ways of making your buttons safe, it wasn't Street Fighter anymore.
>>339275035
>5 frames startup
>reaction
Get the fuck out of here, did you not see the captcha ? You have to NOT be a robot to post
>its a laggy teleporting vega with halfscreen pokes episode
>>339275035
lolwhat
You can't tech throws on reaction on almost any fighting game. You predict them.
>>339275136
>muh 8 frames meme
Nah son, you're just bad.
>>339275217
>>339275423
>>339275447
Same goes for you.
>>339275035
The throw startup is shorter than the input delay
let me repeat
THE THROW STARTUP IS SHORTER THAN THE INPUT DELAY
>>339275493
why is /v/ full of retards trying to act intelligent ? I really don't understand
>>339275249
That really isn't true. Damage isn't as high as in many other fighting games, which has made optimal combos incredibly important. Not only that, but there's a ton of character-specific stuff that you have to learn in order to compete.
The fact that you for some reason mentioned Arakune despite his most complicated thing being his overall playstyle rather than execution, while simultaneously excluding Hazama who is essentially requires complete mastery over his tight microdash timing speaks volumes of how little you know.
>>339209574
>loose
it's lose you stupid motherfucker
lose is to no longer have something
loose is your mom's pussy
>>339275493
Post your reaction time.
http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
>>339275574
>so slow he can't tech on reaction
Stop playing videogames.
>>339275756
113 ms
Only Ingrid can save this game.
>>339275493
>>339275035
Retard.
Average human reaction is about 260ms which on a 60fps game is 15 frames. Exceptional people can maybe shave off a couple frames.
This is why most standing overheads in fighting games are 18 frames tops.
Throws in SFV are 5 frames.
>>339275979
Throw startup is 5f, with an additional tech window of 7f. Adding an input delay of 8f, that gives you 4f to react, which is less than 70ms.
So even when you're lying like a fucking retard, you'd still be too slow to react to them.
>>339275979
>lying and still being too slow
>>339275985
Oh boy, here we go. That you Ingridfag?
How about you tell us again how Ingrid is gonna save the game? I needed a laugh today.
>>339276139
>>339276181
And yet I'm teching them just fine 8/10 times. Seems like you just suck, bro. No need to get mad at me.
>>339275693
>arakune's negative edge and pletora of mixups don't require execution
>doing a fucking micro dash does
Really? Fucking j.CCCCCCCCcccc hazama? seriously?
>>339276267
You tech them because you KNOW that they are going to throw you retard. You're not teching on reaction. You made a READ.
>>339276323
Have you ever actually played Hazama? His combos are much more than just that, and the timing on them is retardedly hard.
>>339276447
>scrubs need to rely on "reads" to tech throws
You shitters crack me up.
>>339276139
kek'd
some niggas just spout shit im glad some people have the time to put them down tbhh
>>339276267
>He can't tech 10/10 times
Who gave you the right to write about anything casual?
>>339276529
Yes, but have you actually played arakune? A character that the community wholy agrees to be one of the hardest characters to play as at high level?
>>339276619
You probably just delay tech. Once you play someone who's actually half decent and know how to do frametraps and shimmies you'll get your shit pushed in.
>>339276692
I'm still learning, my man.
At least we can both agree those scrubs who need """"""reads"""""" to tech throws are wastes of space.
>>339276709
Arakune's difficulty comes from the fact that his overall movement and gameplan is very different from the rest of the cast, and so your skill with them generally won't transfer over to him.
Marking him as harder than Hazama or Rachel is just ridiculous.
Every fighting game sees a dip in interest as we get farther from release. You'll see a lot of people cite examples on why the game itself is bad or flawed, but really they're just losing interest and don't feel like putting in the time to improve. But that's okay.
This isn't to say SFV is above criticism or that all the criticism is wrong, but the sentiments being thrown around today are very similar to what got thrown around after vanilla SF4's release. Aside from the infrastructure issues, (matchmaking problems, shitty launch, etc.) SFV is just different. Notice how the majority of top players who've played other games before SF4 adjusted fine and are enjoying the game while most of the people complaining either started with SF4 or SFV.
>>339275249
Carl, Arakune, Taokaka, and maybe Valk have actually difficult execution.
>>339276832
Nah, you're a shitter. In fact you shouldn't even be talking shit if you can't punish each and every throw attempt with a full combo into either setup or CA for the kill. Don't ever come back until you can.
>>339276975
Pretty much this.
People spent over 7 years with SFIV and have a hard time adapting. Then there's legitimate problems like matchmaking.
I'm kinda tired of it aswell, is there any other fighting game on PC that is alive and is notSFV or Fightcade stuff?
>>339277079
Nice try, scrubbo. I bet I can 10-0 you.
Post your CFN, shitter.
>>339276975
>Notice how the majority of top players who've played other games before SF4 adjusted fine and are enjoying the game while most of the people complaining either started with SF4 or SFV.
That's the exact opposite of what happened. All before the release all we heard was "I'm coming back nukka" from all the OG's who haven't done shit for years. And who's leading the pack? The king of 09'ers himself infiltration.
>>339277334
Only if you post your region 1st. Not playing US teleporters.
So when are they going to reveal the new character, they said it would be today
>>339277340
>ONE player does great
>That's the exact opposite of what happened.
Born without a brain.
>>339277283
I get matches alot faster on pc KI than on pc SFV.
SFV is "okay" and that's it. Personally I would rather play 3s or KOF98 on fightcade than attempt to be an online warrior of SFV. I am really looking forward to KOF14.
P.S. anyone want to fightcade?
>>339277425
>being a Europoor
Of fucking course.
>>339277238
The ass matchmaking and broken fucking lobbies are a real pain not to mention all the dead time between matches just feels so much slower going from match to match than USF4.
Makes learning the game feel that much slower with no one IRL to play against since all my friends dropped the game.
>>339277340
Infil is actually a 11er, it's even worse
>>339277459
Other than jap pros everyone who's doing well have been 09'ers. Du, T. Chris, fucking sonic fox
Even fchamp started in like 08
>>339237007
almost.
autumn games has the ip but they dont exist anymore, they turned into lab zero.
that led to a bunch of legal issues so skullgirls is fucking them over at every turn
>>339277576
Except Xian carried the shit out of team razer at SF crash last night put those motherfuckers on his back.
>>339277589
None of them are doing great, though. None of them took a single tourney, unlike OGs like Momochi.
>>339277545
>being a burger
Not surprised here either. Please go back to fighting bronze friends who enable your scrubby "reactions".
>>339277472
KI has crossplay.
>>339277770
So does SFV.
>>339277768
Can't even remember the last time I've seen a Bronze player in ranked.
You guys must be used to them, however. European Gold is like American Rookie.
>>339277459
Look up standings at capcomprotour dot com
Pretty much every nonjapanese player that is not jwong/ricky is a 09er.
>>339277923
>>339277768
Will you two fuck already
>>339278082
>moving goalposts
As expected.
>doing great and got like 3.5k lp when starting today at 2k
>laggy matching and me being bad dropped me to 3k
The gold dream is dead right? I need to learn how to AA with karin any tips?
>>339278718
ex.Ressenha
st.lp
cr.hp
Also if you know he's gonna jump at you for sure jump back and lp/lk/mp. Karin isn't supposed to play defensively so her options aren't the best for AA. Try to shift the flow of the fight into you being on offense.
>>339278718
If you're having trouble anti airing with st.HP then save some meter for ex dps, no one can jump on you then
>>339279132
I cant seem to get cr.HP and st.lp to be consistent
>>339279383
They don't really work if the opponent jump at the right angles. Karin's anti-airs are overall pretty bad.
