Screw you,/v/. I'm never listening to you guys again. This game was fucking great.
>This movie was fucking great.
fix'd
>2 hours of sneaking then 3 hours of following some guy around Prague with bad boss fights and awful turret sequences
>10 hours of cutscenes
>great
Nice meme
>>339198617
Right there with you OP.
This game is nothing but fanservice and everyone shits on it because of the cutscenes.
>>339199094
this is how the series should ve ended.
>>339199094
>This game is nothing but fanservice
You understand the fanservice was passive aggressive criticism from Kojima, right?
>>339198907
Your exaggerating this entirely. I do agree that there was far too much cutscenes but the gameplay they had in it was excellent.
>>339199214
It's still what people wanted for years.
>Get Solid Snake back
>Go back to shadow moses
>Drive Rex and have a boss battle againts Ray
>Raiden comes back and not a faggot
>gun porn
>Act 3 is an actual stealth mission which is massive and takes full advantage of the octocamo or you can fuck off for a bit a find tons of secrets.
>Boss battles are all homages
>The greatest final boss of all video games period.
>>339199352
what gameplay?
worst mgs game, easily
>>339199214
>It's supposed to be shit!!!
>>339200445
MGSV
>>339200303
There is still solid amount of gameplay. You're just being stupid at this point. I do agree there should be more however.
>>339200445
There is no worst one. Peace Walker,4 and 5 all have problems but are still great games.
>>339198703
First post best post yet again, eat shit faggot op.
>>339198703
>this movie was fucking bad
>>339200539
I wasnt defending it, retard. Mgs4 sucks
>>339200674
at least 5 had gameplay
>>339200710
>There is still solid amount of gameplay
Too bad it's constantly being cut up by cutscenes all the time. And most of them are like 3 hours long so if you skip them you miss a significant portion of the experience.
The game is fun to go through... once
>>339198617
But most of /v/ that is worth listening to acknowledges MGS4 as a great, though flawed, game
>>339200674
he said worst not best
God damn,none of you are willing to openly converse about this game. All you say is "movie" "Fanservice" "shit" but don't actually elaborate.
>>339200959
You just keep fucking exaggerating like every other retard in this thread.
>>339201194
it's not 3 hours long most of the time perhaps, but the constant interruptions from gameplay is what ruins the experience overall
>>339199762
It really always was a great game, but vee shat on it for years just because it was new. Time to apologize vee!
>>339201032
Why is it great?
>>339201081
MGS4 is a shit moviegame made by a tired and drained creator who was forced to come up with solutions to questions that were never meant to be answered so he did it in the most retarded, fanservice-y way as backhanded appeasement of the idiots who didnt get MGS2.
People dont get that canon was NEVER important to metal gear. It was always about theme and the nature of video games themselves, not a fictional timeline of a fictional continuity. Venom popping the first game into an MSX was an infinitely more appropriate ending than some hamfisted hug it out fest in a graveyard
>>339201421
>awful storyline
>most of the gameplay is comprised of bad gimmicks.
>only decent stealth is in part of act 1 and 2.
If they had expanded on the gameplay in act 2 I might have a more favorable opinion.
>>339201478
>Top notch gameplay, even for MGS standards
>Great TECHNOLOGY
>Some of the best high points in the series (opening, Raiden, Microwave hallway, final boss)
>Compelling characters
>Actually get to play Snake, for the last time
Flaws:
>Some of the worst low points of the series
>Gameplay is cut up by cutscenes, some of them fairly long
>Some shitty characters
>Most bossfights not that great, with little characterization
>>339202010
>Compelling characters
Name 2.
"game"
>>339202283
Snake
Raiden
Roy
>>339202010
>>339202283
>Compelling characters
Every new character in MGS4 sucks and most of the returning characters are shitty versions of their former selves and only there for fanservice
Naomi was a great three dimensional character in MGS1 and learned from Snake. The theme of GENE is expressed as mich through Naomi as it is through the Twin snakes.
In MGS4 she just spews nonsensical bullshit about fate and dies of magic cancer
>>339202504
I'll give you roy and snake.
>>339202717
I named Raiden just because hes somewhat tragic. Otherwise yeah, youre right to dismiss him.
Still, I met your criteria, so thats aomething
>>339198617
yeh it was great for the first 2 chapters, shame thats 2/5 of the game
>>339202873
The return to shadow moses was good, and the last bit of the game was a greatmovie
>>339202961
>return to shadow moses
DUDE FANSERVICE LMAO
Relevant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JnaWNMTmwkFeel free to be a contrarian shithead and say that this guy doesn't hit the nail on the head.
>>339203265
Oh yeah, no doubt. But they pulled it off fairly well and the gameplay was really good, including the boss fight.
A hell of a lot better than fanservice pandering in DS3, thats for fucking sure
>>339203269
>1:20
Ive seen it before, and remember him being on point, but can you summarise it for us real quick? The details elude me
The first 2 acts were great
The rest of it was an abomination that makes MGSV look like a masterpiece
>>339203879
>MGSV look like a masterpiece
No. MGSV has almost no memorable moments outside of GZ and a couple of scenes in TPP notable only for their ridiculousness (WHOOOOOO and the Skull Face awkward Monologue being chief among them)
>>339204308
Make your own memorable moments, faglord. Dont complain its not a moviegame. Kojima had the right idea this time. YOU are Big Boss and youre building that legend by playing.
>>339203669
Oh shit you think I remember either? I think it's all been covered pretty well in this thread already actually in terms of the overuse of fanservice and cutscenes.
It's just nice to see it all told in the form of a video by a guy with with a foreign accent.
>>339204575
>foreign accent
Why do people from the UK make everything so much more digestible?
>>339204525
>playing
You mean grinding.
>>339205079
>needing to grind in MGSV
Sorry you actually have to play this one instead of watching it like a movie
It's better than V anyway
>>339205079
A grind is only bad when it's done in like an MMORPG. Having a lot of stuff to do in a game does not necessarily make it a grind
>>339200674
Fuck off. MGS4 was a literal movie, MGSV is the polar opposite of that. It's all gameplay, and it's fucking good. Replayable as hell.
Nobody said it's a bad game
It's just the worst in the series
>>339198617
FORGET the game/movie bullshit!
The GAMEPLAY is shit. And the PLOT/STORY/CHARACTERS are shit!
Remaster when? Hopefully they fix the shitty textures...
The gameplay in MGS4 isn't that fucking good.
The game gives you absolutely no reason to use stealth. By the halfway point, you have enough cash to buy whatever OP weapons and ammo you need from the shop at any point.
>>339207596
nah the gameplay is pretty great. But you're never really doing it for any longer than a few minutes at a time.
Then chapter 3 starts
Then it's already over, whoops
I have never seen a console game with such weird framerate problems as MGS4. Cutscenes will randomly bump up to 60 for like half a second before instantly returning to 25-30
>>339207596
It actually has the most fleshed out controls and mechanics in the entire series. But as was said already several times throughout this thread and all others before it, they were completely squandered.
>>339198617
""""game""""
If there was ever a character you liked in Metal Gear, Metal Gear Solid 4 probably fucked it over, unless that character is Big Boss.
The game is not as offensive as TPP, but shit, talk about taking a dump on the backstory.
MGS4 has the best gameplay in the series but with the worst level design
it s a curse I tell ya
>>339208160
What is "offensive" about mgsv
>>339199762
>mfw that final boss
Puts every other final boss in the series to shame. Not even The Boss was that good.
>>339209028
>QTE fistfight boss
>good
>BUT MUH NOSTALGIA
Fuck off
>>339198907
Sonyggers are all right with it
>>339209147
>QTE
Did you even play the game? Don't tell me you just watched a let's play.
>posting a movie
not video games
>>>/tv/
>>339209459
Maybe a qte is an exaggeration but its mostly contextual CQC and has nothing to do with the core stealth of the series
The fight with The Boss was a fast and furious game of cat and mouse. You would both he trying to find each other in the field to get the first shot and then rush in to CQC. Manages to feel deeply personal without betraying the core gameplay
Mgs4 turns into an entirely different game but people praise it becauseUH FANSERVICE MUH NOSTALGIA
