>Overwatch on PC doesn't have aim assist!
>Its all about aiming well!
>Its the wonky hitboxes!
>Its just some cheaters!
This bullshit happens ALL THE TIME, whenever someone ( widowmaker, hanzo, mcree, genji, etc ) shoots "close enough" to the player, the game aligns the shot to hit the part of the player model on the same horizontal level of the crosshair during the shot.
competitive?
esports?
lmao, fucking dropped
oh, looks like sad truth got exposed, shills werent prepared for that, better not bump this thread, maybe nobody will notice
Where are the overwatch fags?
>>339170276
>playing Team Fortress 3
>expecting it to be good
>>339170276
Hey man I suck at snipping so I'm happy about this
>>339171483
crying cuz they got rekt
I don't care, I'm having a lovely time with it and I'm glad I dropped £30 on it.
>>339171483
Playing the game and having fun instead of bitching about every little thing.
The replay shows your client side interpretation. You're clearly lagging behind the server.
>>339170276
>tfw 95% of you fuckers still can't hit anything anywayThe kill cam is glitchy as fuck btw. It doesn't play well with latency. Half the time the guy you're watching looks like an aimbot.
>>339171753
if replays showed our client side interpretation we would see all the "get shot through the wall" that happens due to 20 tick, since we don't - its the version of the player you are watching
>>339170276
>doesn't understand how the 20 tickrate works
>doesn't turn kill cam off
>made a webem of his death he's that buttmad
You only brought this anger on yourself.
>>339170276
>kill cams are 100% accurate
As far as I know, Hanzo has bigger hit boxes for his arrows
>People starting to figure out McCree is OP
>Every game has 2-3 McCrees now
FUCK
>>339171941
>m-muh tick
Getting shot through walls sometimes happens but it has nothing to do with the tick. The extra delay introduced by low tick isn't nearly enough to give a perceivable jank-back effect.
>>339170276
Is this real?
I thought aim assist is used only on consoles to compensate for shitty controllers
What other PC games use aim assist?
>>339170276
Pretty sure it's the shitty tickrate.
>>339170276
>Auto aim
It's the fucking tickrate lad. Still just as bad however
>>339172058
>it almost never happens on 64 tick servers
>it never happens on 128 tick servers
>it happens very often on 20 tick servers
ya, no way its 20 tick fault, no fucking way
>watch Hanzo killcam
>his arrows aren't event landing any where near me but are hitting as headshots
>teammates are complaining about the same thing
>switch to Hanzo
>literally the same thing
how is this even a thing, why is there aim assist, why is their baby hand holding
>>339172179
Overwatch has a very different netcode from most classic FPS shooters. The devs should make a video explaining it so idiots like you would shut up.
Oh wait they did and you're still here.
>>339172261
designed from ground up for gamepads.
>>339172058
>The extra delay introduced by low tick isn't nearly enough to give a perceivable jank-back effect
Yeah it fucking is
>>339171964
This.
It's shitty server tick rate, not aim assist.
The kill cam showed it with the lag of player and server.
Why the fuck would I care about its competitive scene?
>>339170276
>no proof of pc version
>no lag shown
top keking my friend ;)))
>>339170276
>>339170904
It's always this way. 4chan just cares about meme threads, not the truth or changing things.
Game is pure shit in some areas. Imbalanced as fuck. That teleporter whore is completely useless unless youre team is overpowered anyway. Ice whore is way too powerful considering how easy she is to use etc.
Also all that propaganda shit.
Best thing? No dedicated servers in 2016. How can anyone even defend this shit? It's pathetic. Just pathetic.
I noticed this shit immediately in beta especially when playing against a Hanzo
>>339171579
Would you please stop comparing this shit to Team Fortress? One character in Team Fortress alone, Demoman for example, has higher skil ceiling than all characters in OW combined. I ltierally mastered them all after 5-10 minutes.
>>339172532
>That teleporter whore is completely useless unless youre team is overpowered anyway. Ice whore is way too powerful considering how easy she is to use etc.
jesus christ you're clearly a shitter
>>339171641
Cool, now kill yourself.
>>339172394
I remember learning about tick rate and seeing a couple of images like this. Never thought a AAA title would release with that shit after 2013. Fuck me though, right?
>>339172297
Link to video where they explain shit like this webm in OP is normal and not helping aim.
>>339172697
>oh no she's backing into a room i wonder if there's 6 sentries in there waiting for me
>oh wow she's charging at us with her laser gun now she dead
>oh fuck no a slow moving orb coming directly at me I sure hope I can press a or d in time
>>339172697
That I have an aim and realize if a game is balanced or imbalanced doesn't make me a shitter.
When certain characters are worse than 9/10 characters in the game in most scenarios, they are imbalanced/shit. Have fun with the teleporter piece of shit when your team isn't significantly better or when you're defending the second control point. Or playing KOTH.
>>339172846
your proving my point, a good symmetra doesnt do any of this, she stays with her party and place the sentries properly depending on the map. Armoring up people, and killing easy targets in tight places where health packs are.
>>339172394
>>339171941
/thread
>>339172631
Nice blog, subscribed.
>>339172898
you realize that Symmetra is particularly good at the start of the game and should be switched mid-game?
>All these battlebabbys, nintoddlers, and fortressfags trying to diss overwatch while the majority of /v/ has fun
Lol sucks to be you
>>339170276
Underage b& detected
This client side/server side latency has been in multiplayer FPS games since the dawn of its inception
The kill cam is not a 1:1 replay of what happened, it's the server's recreation based on data sent from you and the enemy. Lag is inevitable, so it shows the enemy shooting somewhere where it seems like you weren't, but from the server's point of view, you were there just a few milliseconds before.
>>339170276
That's not aim assist you retard, that's called bullet magnetism
>>339172945
Yeah, too bad the enemy doesn't just watch you doing these things and instead kills you while you basically can't inflict damage if your enemy isn't facehugging you.
You're clearly playing in an overpowered team most the time, probably with friends against random shitters.
>>339173051
Exactly. She is good for like two specific scenarios while this ice bitch for example is always broken. How is this not imbalanced? And even in those specific scenarios she is still far from a must have. Very far.
Stop defending this shit balancing. Blizzard clearly had no idea what they were doing, it's their first shooter, they are retarded. They literally took the TF2 Engineer and made himt wo characters which is a retarded idea.
>>339172765
Me too but it's waved away as "the casuals won't notice it". It's a crime but all we can do now is spread the word.
It'sfun
I'm glad I'm not a bitter autist that needs to shitpost every new game that comes out
Widowmaker does have aim assist, but on the shitty fucking grappling hook.
>aim high on a ledge
>game autoaims and sends the hook at ground level to the closest thing it can hook to
>waste over 10 seconds to get to the good location again
>>339173081
In that case it would also show the crosshair where the shot goes. It doesn't, though. Both is the same kind of visual design, wouldn't make this for it to differ in that Highlight video.
>>339173241
>Exactly. She is good for like two specific scenarios while this ice bitch for example is always broken. How is this not imbalanced?
first off, I fail to see how its bad that a character excels in specific scenarios. I mean, its good for diversity and players with proper map knowledge.
And second, Mei is not even a problem.
>>339173268
Guess what, other people would LOVE to have fun with this game too and bought it but they simply have higher standards than you and aren't OK with a heavily flawed product. Doesn't have anything to do with being an autist or a shitposter, these are things applying solely to you.
>>339172261
Projectiles have larger hitboxes than hitscan attacks.
>>339172394
Pretty sure CS guy is faster than normal OW speed, and the netcode has special rules for movement spells. Also, it's important to note that the average delay will be half of the gap.
Tickrate could be higher but it wouldn't make a great noticeable difference and you'd just find a new buzzword to spam.
You will never escape issues with the netcode. Overwatch has client side hit detection that does create an issue with getting shot in cover (but this has more to do with either client having "normal" high ping, and more rarely the tick) but it's still better than server side that forces you to lead and all other shit.
>>339173081
>Underage b& detected
I don't think you know what "Underage b&" means.
>that webm
>meanwhile I consistently miss shots that are inches away from their heads
???
>>339173241
>while this ice bitch for example is always broken.
>>339170276
>Killcam
>20 tickrate
>>339172765
most likely due to bottleneck from consoles
>he gets so mad that he was headshotted by widow that he posts a thread on /v/ after slowing down a webm of him getting shit
Mei is one of the worst character. Anyone that thinks she's overpowered is just salty, because yes she's frustrating, but not OP in any way imaginable.
>>339173081
once again, if it were like you say, we would see countless of replays where you see yourself behind a wall and getting shot - that doesnt happen, because replay shows exactly what the other player sees.
>>339173445
>first off, I fail to see how its bad that a character excels in specific scenarios. I mean, its good for diversity and players with proper map knowledge.
When 50% the characters are always great and 50% are the characters are 50% the time shit, it's called imbalanced and dumb.
You can also end up in so many terrible situations this way.
>play Symmetra
>ult ready
>enemy just took first control point
>wew, guess I'll have fun being a semi-useless piece of shiit making a basically useless teleporter and get killed
And Mei is a problem in any way, obviously. She is clearly a must have character, always, while having extremely low skill ceiling. People always shit on TF2 Pyro, rightfully so, but Mei is so much worse, it's not even funny.
>>339173487
>m-muh high standards
In the end you're just a bitter autist nitpicking meaningless shit while other people are having fun. I bet you're a virgin too
>>339173563
Nice argument, guess you realized you're in the wrong and it's better not even trying and instead posting a 2007 tumblr gif.
>>339173738
>Mei is a problem in any way, obviously. She is clearly a must have character
>>339173614
i record all my gameplay for fun and "git gud" purposes and after rewatching a lot of them i noticed something weird about a lot of shots/kills/deaths, so i picked one, slowed it down and, oh boy, would you look at that...
>>339173614
Are you retarded? We're all playing the game and trying to have fun, why are you defending it like a notorious shill? Do you love eating shit? Do you get paid by Blizzard?
The only weapons with autoaim are hanzos arrows. Everything else is just poor networking with hitscan weapons
Nigga the shit you're receiving from the server is about 66% bullshit, because it's only sending about 33% of what happened.
I can only hope to God they make this shit 60hz both ways at least in ranked.
anyone who says competitive esports overwatch is a retard
i like overwatch
its a great casual shooter, but thats what it is
>>339172261
>hanzo killcam
>its always just hanzos shooting arrows around the corner in the same or random spots and it always magicially lands headshots
i then switched to hanzo earlier to try the same and kept getting easy kills too, the fuck is this im not evne aiming properly
>>339170276
>tfw I play with you (Frost) a lot
D-does this mean my MMR is high?
>>339171964
>turning off killcam
>you can't screencheat to see the enemy's ult status
>>339173738
>group of five friends and a random ally
>he pic Mei
>3 in the chat instantly request that he switch
>he doesnt
>fucking useless all game
>>339173659
>can boost allies to high places they shouldn't be able to reach
>can kill a push in a second by just splitting their team in half with a wall
>incredible sustain
>able to slow and freeze enemies at close range
Yeah she really isn't that good
>>339173817
>I put a muh in front of his sentence, this will show him
Now I realize why fucking everyone is doing "xD" in Overwatch while I've never seen anyone doing it in 5 years of TF2. The game is literally for 12 year old Reddit children.
>>339173868
See >>339173824
>>339173935
>page down
what
>>339173508
Really? The competitive games look very different when playing at a tickrate of 60. The change is very noticable to me, but that may just be that the players are better.
>>339170276
No one cares
>>339173989
That's great for you, there already are many """""""""professional"""""""" matches on Youtube and Twitch showing how broken she is.
>>339170904
everybody already knows OW is a joke when it comes to balance, netcode or skill ceiling, but it's still fun
why continue this topic?
thats the atrociously bad tickrate at work
Overwatch buyers remorse threads when?
>>339174132
>/v/
>literally designated low standards shitposting containment board in 2016
Indeed.
>>339170276
DELET THIS
>>339174152
>Youtube and Twitch
Why have I never seen anyone complaining about no dedicated servers?
Even console shooters have this now.
>can't have a fav public server you play on with rivals you love-hate
>can't have fav publiv sercer with custom rules and certain maps you like
>just when you got used to some cool people; a few guys leave, connection is lost and game puts you into a new room with new random guys every time
>can't even switch teams
>not sure if it's even possible to play against friends you invited, probably not
>CAN'T EVEN FUCKING LOOK FOR SPECIFIC GAME MODES, it's all random
Did we just lower our standards for this game? Why?
Then there also is Junkrat. You can sticky jump like Demoman but the jump direction is fix, it's not physically correct. You can't sticky jump far instead of high depending on how far away you are from the sticky or if it's right underneath you.
It's pure casual shit.
>>339174045
>r-reddit
You sure showed everyone with those hot arguments fagtron. Do this board a favor and stop posting.
>>339174152
Is that why all these """"""""professionals"""""""" put her at or near the bottom of every """"""""""tier list""""""""?
>Complaining about tickrate
>Complaining about bullets not landing where they should
Could it be... that the two problems are linked?
Idiots.
>>339174332
So you want me to come up with a great counter argument against no argument? I see.
>>339172007
>soon the meta will be 6 McCree's
>>339172519
>look bottom left corner
>left shiff
>f
>no proof of pc version
fuck off summerfag youre not funny
Yeah I have been thinking that some shots shouldn't have hit especially with Hanzo and Widowmaker. Its like 90% of Overwatch players are good at sniping but its actually just that its hard to be bad with them
>>339174325
That shit about Junkrat jumping is 100% incorrect
>>339174369
I just checked for shit and giggles, holycrap she at the bottom with bastion and other in pretty much all the lists. kek
>>339170276
I hope your aware by blizzards own admission the kill cam is unreliable
>>339174438
Tried that, couldn't get past the first choke point in king's row. 6 winstons on the other hands might have ruined their shit.
>>339174369
No. Tier lists are absolute bullshit mostly comprising 1vs1 no items final destination only.
Nothing changes the fact she can just rush into a battle and easily fuck up Reinhardts or an entire team without any effort at all. At all.
>>339174436
Well it's a fact you're an autistic faggot, so you're right, no counter argument there.
>>339170276
This is the 20 tickrate at work.
I remember in the Beta getting hit or killed after running behind cover multiple times.
This is partially why I didn't get it. Stuff like this infuriates me.
>>339174112
Tickrate matters less in client side games. I wish it was higher too, but it's hardly the biggest deal.
>>339174529
You have two fix jump directions. In TF2 you have countless since it's phyiscally correct.
You don't even have to jump in OW. This game has no skill ceiling, it's all their. For braindeads.
>>339173983
>Can see enemy ult charge in killcam
This really needs to be patched out.
>>339170276
>kill cam
I'm laughing at you
>>339172058
I like overwatch but the 20 tick IS fucking disgusting. If you've ever played literally any other shooter the delay in every action it causes feels fucking disgusting. Try making a custom lobby with "high bandwidth" turned on and it feels so much better and more responsive. Why can't the entire game be like this?
>>339172519
>>no lag shown
You don't even know what lag is.
Heck I bet you're one of those people that call FPS drops "lag".
60hrz = 0-20ms delay
20 tick = 0-50ms delay
60 tick = 0-20ms delay
You fags are batching about a 30ms extra lag on top of the hundred(s) of ms lag already present. You aren't losing or dying because of lag.
People playing counter strike on 56k just fine.
pls buy legion
>support that can't heal
Into the trash it goes.
>>339170276
In an FPS when you fire a bullet it travels a trajectory dictated by probabilities.
Generally the probability set takes the shape of a cone.
The farther away from the starting point the greater the spread.
>>339172532
>No dedicated servers
NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT REMEMBER HOW TF2 HAD IDLE AND 24/7 2FORT SERVERS LOL WHO WANTS THAT AGAIN PLEASE BUY THIS GAME SO I'M NOT ALONE BLIZZARD WILL FIX IT IF YOU JUST BUY A COPY
>>339174325
People playing this game have no standards at all and probably never played a shooter on PC before They're coming straight from shitty MMORPGs and MOBAs.
They probably don't even know what user servers are and how they make a game 90% better by default.
>>339174805
>on top of the hundred(s) of ms lag already present
??
>>339173935
>Page Down
>LALT
>he's actually using the arrow keys to move
>>339174680
I'm not saying your wrong but do you have proof? I feel like I can get whatever kind of jump I want as Junkrat, obviously Demoman is better at it because of air-starting and multiple bombs to change your initial force vector and all that fancy stuff.
>>339174646
>This is partially why I didn't get it.
While I understand, why are you even in this thread then?
>>339174325
Matchmaking is better than community hosted servers because people don't know shit. It's also more convenient when you just, you know, want to play.
>dustbowl 24/7 - 24/24
>no crit - 24/24
>no noobtube - 16/16
>operation hurt locker 24/7 - 64/64
>good server with classic rules 2/12
You can host your own games if you have 11 friends though. And the servers are dedicated but that probably doesn't matter to you as you don't know what the word means.
>>339172846
A place for every character senpai. A good Symmetra is a flank watcher, she sets up turrets around the current choke point so reaper and tracers don't have free reign, she also posts up around health packs and areas of retreat just to help put extra pressure on desperate players. Teleporter is icing on the cake and more than enough to turn the tides. Maybe you're just a bad Symmetra
>>339172532
don't forget REGION LOCKING
>>339174775
>announcing reports
>calling other people underage
I see this is your first time on 4chan.
>>339172137
Isn't OW like....25 ticks?
>>339174959
It's obviously just two directions. One crouching and one without crouching.
>shallow
>low content
>20 tick
>no dedicated servers
>blizzard wants to push this as an esport
My brother is also regretting his purchase every single day now.
>>339174847
Yeah whats up with that? Does Blizz even know their own game? They make it so you HAVE to have a healer or you're at a huge disadvantage. You only get 2 choices: boring angel whore or le rapping black man, often both at the same time. Great variety shitheads.
>>339174945
Lag between game engine and video output
Lag between mouse movement and keyboard input
Lag from sending data to server
Lag from other people receiving such data
The moment you click your mouse to someone seeing your shot fired on their screen is hundreds of millisecond.
>>339174979
>Matchmaking is better than community hosted servers because people don't know shit. It's also more convenient when you just, you know, want to play.
You realize you can have two things, right? Also only part of the reason is the community you get on servers, the other reasons being maps you like and location.
>>339174052
Maybe he's left handed.
>>339174968
>While I understand, why are you even in this thread then?
Because I commented on the bad tickrate in the game that OP showed.
This isn't exactly a thread where people dicuss what their favorite hero in the game is.
>>339174805
People are talking about an average of an extra 25 ping as if it's the end of the world. When you notice abnormalities in the netcode it's because either you or the guy who shot you lagged.
I think Overwatch is a bit generous with people with high ping though but that's more of a decision than a technical limitation.
Fuck, this is so very complex better just keep it simple and spam
>20 ping xD upvote pls
>>339174926
If you want your pony servers just play TF2 anon.
>>339174979
>Matchmaking is better than community hosted servers because people don't know shit.
No, it's not, never.
>can't have a fav public server you play on with rivals you love-hate
>can't have fav publiv sercer with custom rules and certain maps you like
>just when you got used to some cool people; a few guys leave, connection is lost and game puts you into a new room with new random guys every time
>can't even switch teams
>not sure if it's even possible to play against friends you invited, probably not
>CAN'T EVEN FUCKING LOOK FOR SPECIFIC GAME MODES, it's all random
If you defend this, you are obviously a shill paid by Blizzard or a <90 IQ fanboy.
Besides, games can have both, user servers and matchmaking. See Team Fortress 2 or Counter Strike.
Nothing better than having your fav servers with people you know and love and people you hate/rivals.
>>339175084
Meant lag between game loop and keyboard /mouse
>>339175047
console masterrace, if im not keep the game which is usually 90% of the time I buy it on console, sold it already
>>339175085
>>339175198
So make a subreddit and host your own games?
You know, I get what you're saying but the problem is that people are fucking idiots. Same problem as democracy. Then again I bet retards like you still vote.
>>339175084
>Lag between game engine and video output
>Lag between mouse movement and keyboard input
This shit doesn't build to 100 ms, it's pretty tiny
>Lag from sending data to server
>Lag from other people receiving such data
This might, but that's only because you amazingly can't pick servers in this fucking game and it doesn't always get you the closest
Either way though, ADDING LAG for no reason whatsoever is always a bad thing
>>339174979
>Matchmaking is better than community hosted servers
>>339175305
Yes, let me just go to lebbit and round up a bunch of idiots from there instead of having the ease to join a server that I know regulars will be on? Why do you want this basic function of any game not to be present?
>>339175309
Increasing the tick rate would increase lag if the servers couldn't handle it.
It could also increase lag if clients couldn't handle it.
>>339175305
Are you just recommending going to Reddit? Is this your argument? Really?
Games have user servers since the 90s. Go eat shit and die, shill.
>>339170276
Got any proof?
>>339175405
Because, as I said, he is either a shill who gets paid for this (many shills here, janis among them), or he is a literally retarded Koko tier IQ fanboy.
>>339175464
how about clicking on that webm?
>>339170276
Nice kill cam replay. You know those aren't actually what happened right?
>>339175415
And once upon a time people lived in caves and shat in the woods. But thanks to *progress* things *change*. Scary, but ultimately good!
I bet some neanderthal at the time still wanted to live in his smelly cave even after better alternatives came along, though. People like you are constants.
>>339175354
That's right.
>>339175464
Go to a private game with a friend and shoot near his head
>>339173508
>Pretty sure CS guy is faster than normal OW speed
Not when you take into account Tracer's blink or Lucio's speed boost.
I can't even count the times I've blinked to safety then died mid blink, started rewinding then died anyway, or died while throwing by bomb and it didn't get thrown.
If there is aim assist, why do I suck so hard at sniper and always miss my target by millmeters?
Explain this.
>>339175414
And whose fault is that, exactly? Blizzard is responsible for hosting those servers
>>339175041
I'm assuming by "direction" you mean you jump arc? Then that's objectively wrong you can get a quick boost forward by exploding your bomb late while juming over it and you can go straight up into the air by being directly on top of it as well as everything in-between
>>339175592
>Not when you take into account Tracer's blink or Lucio's speed boost.
Oh you're right I should have addressed that in my post. Wait I did.
If that keeps happening to you it's your own ping. How do I know this? BECAUSE THEY MADE A VIDEO WHERE THEY EXPLAINED IT MONTHS AGO. Fuck.
>>339170276
This is common in games with kill cams, happens in halo,cod, all of em. It is because of the lag compensation.
>>339175576
>matchmaking is more advanced than fucking user servers with people who can literally do whatever they want, default rules and map rotate like matchmaking as well
Stop it now, shill.Everyone in this thread knows you are full of shit.
And again, a game can have both.
>>339170276
lag compensation
Same thing happens in csgo threads people shit on hit detection which is caused by lag.
>>339170276
That's an example of the game's shitty tickrate, she probably saw you under her crosshair when she clicked.
>>339172532
Propaganda?
>people actually trying to put down dedicated servers by saying "IDLE SERVERS 24/7 DUSTBOWL"
Yeah, remember randomiser, x10, saxton hale, smash bros arena,dodgeball and that retarded football game mode,jailbreak
Even though they all are silly, I'd had the most fun on them
>>339174953
>LALT
>arrow keys
With what, his goddamn monster hands?
>>339170276
This has literally never happened in the entire time I've played Widowmaker. I've missed by incredibly small margins without any of this. I guarantee there's another explanation for this single instance your butthurt ass took the time to make into a webm.
>>339175746
Of course Blizzard could bend over to appease every want of the vocal minority of pedantic self-entitled gamers like yourself but luckily they decided to make a good game instead.
>>339174953
maybe he's left handed?
>>339175926
Not that anon but
>adding dedicated servers in a fps
>bending over
>>339175576
>I bet some neanderthal at the time still wanted to live in his smelly cave even after better alternatives came along
"better alternatives" like extinction? Neanderthals died out, friend, we're not descended from them.
Expand your lexicon and learn your evolutionary history, then make your point again.
>>339175864
sounds like you couldn't play the actual game so you went to meme servers. try nospread nocrit servers instead anon.
>>339175864
It's okay when Blizzard does it.
dont care. having fun.
also, turret guys are OP and need nerf. the beard man and the robot fucker.
>>339170276
>replay
Nice b8 m8
CS:GO threads turned into Overwatch threads now?
>>339176107
>tier 5 characters needs a nerf
kek
Honestly if I want to play a game of TF2 nowadays I generally just use the matchmaker because all my old favourite servers are either dead or have become 32 player instant respawn 24/7 goldrush bullshit or something similar.
>>339170276
i don't care because the game is F U N
>>339172532
>No dedicated servers
Equals a shit community TF2 might have had horse fuckers invade but at the very least you could avoid them and whatever general cancer. In overwatch you gotta deal with an already Worse community which is the MOBA crowd and every one of these sheep are as insufferable as the next
I also honestly feel the game being strictly 6V6 is a huge weakness as well compared to TF2's whopping 12 VS 12
>>339176107
Toblerone is fine, I agree about Bastion though
>>339175926
Overwatch is an imbalanced, flawed, mediocre fun shooter with low as fuck skill ceiling. It's just MOBA tactic shit for autists. It's hardly a good game.
And no dedicated servers is embarrassing. You can't even choose a game mode. It's embarrassing, anon. Not everyone likes KOTH or Paylord. Or whatever they come up with next.
And people also don't like getting disconnected because three people leave.
>>339176067
Uh, yeah that's the point. You guys are the neanderthals. But supposedly some people still have some of their genes. Including you, probably.
>>339176205
>tfw your favorite server died and will never come back
rip Weeaboutique ;_;7
>>339170276
overwatch is shit but this is obviously a clientside issue with the replays. csgo and rainbow six siege do the same thing with their kill cams and replays.
>>339175926
>good game
It's shit in the core. This cooldown system for all attacks is just bullshit. It's really bad, illorigcal and annoying.
>>339172394
It baffles me how they could have released the game like that. People in the CS scene have literally complained about nothing but the 64 tick servers since the game came out. And now they release a game that has 1/3 of that. What the actual fuck.
>>339170276
I thought it was wierd me getting all those kills, usually Im pretty bad at sniping.
>no custom maps/servers/modding
>gameplay isn't mechanically interesting in the slightest
>the only thing this game has to keep people is skinner box grinding and cash shop cosmetics
>>339176421
They show the crosshair not being on the enemy but the projectile going into his direction? I've never seen this before, no. It's either both or none.
>>339176404
>mic spammer would take requests of anime music
>would always play whatever I asked for
>now he's gone
>>339176298
6v6 is a horrible default setup for a class based FPS.
Almost all the details of Overwatch are shitty and will kill the game in the somewhat near future.
Blizzard seems like they did everything possible to give this game as short a shelf life as humanly possible.
>>339175864
Dude, you're not going to convince anyone. Tf2 has become trendy to hate over the last few years because it's associated with valve and because it's nowhere what it used to be.
Don't get me wrong, current tf2 isn't anywhere as good as it used to be, but people just like to shitposting.
>>339174590
>slow as shit
>low damage without headshots
>no tools to quickly get into or out of a fight
>her one survival tool ends her offense and leaves her hilariously vulnerable when it ends
>ult is pretty good, I guess
She's shit m8
>>339175061
>>339174847
Here is how you fix Symettra
Keep her sentry limit 6, but give her the option to either set up an Offensive Turret (which is her normal one), OR a turret that deals no damage but heals team mates with a beam.
She still has 6 only, but she can choose between setting up offensive or supportive turrets.
>>339172261
The game is a console game based around console gamepads.
>>339176285
>>339176107
>I'm 14
>>339171483
Enjoying their game instead of whining about it online.
>>339176546
>would always take the time to goldwave requests to play in the future
>My gigantic HLDJ folder is now useless because Teek is gone and TF3 is NEVER EVER tier
Somebody please tell Uncle Gabe to make the next game before I die.
>>339175856
Not spoonfeeding a dumb retard. You can die bluepilled.
>>339176404
That and the old party can were my favorites.
I think near the end, they were the only thing keeping me playing tf2.
Was Overwatch ever about pinpoint accuracy, though?
Just seems to be a casual, strategic moba shooter type thing. Positioning in a place so that you don't get shot matters just as much as the accuracy of the person shooting at you.
>>339172007
only cucks get cucked by McCree
>>339176572
Yeah, every online match I had so far and lke a 100 random people complaining about her disagree with you and your retarded MOBA autismo "tier list".
>>339176459
Overwatch was meant to sell on marketing and hype, not because of actual functioning mechanics, anon.
>>339176753
he can snipe with as good as damage as widow
he can stun and kill literally every character in close range
instant reload and already back into the fight.
>>339176582
That'd be a massive bastartd to counter
>damage some guy
>they retreat to the free health archway
>come back at you because you can't actually get to the archway to kill the heal turrets
IO mean when her usual turrets are killing you, you can shoot at them.
>>339176735
>Fortress of Fapitude
>Party Van
>Fortress of Fapitude 2
>Weeaboutique
These servers literally made the game.
RIP in pennies you glorious bastards
>>339171483
Not an OW fag but I heard this game has 20 tickrate servers so that might be way he is seeing delayed aiming. Again not an OW fag, but with that low tickrate, your not gonna be seeing real time.
>>339172007
>starting to figure out
Are you dumb? The skill ceilin gin this game is so low you see immediately who is shit and who is overpowered. You can literally just walk through choke points, throw this piss bottle and finish enemies which requires 0 skill.
Pure cancer.
>>339174325
>Did we just lower our standards for this game? Why?
Blizzdrones are giving Blizzard a free pass. Just like Bethdrones are giving Bethesda a free pass.
>>339173949
I said the same thing about Hearthstone. Boy do I look like fool now.
>>339174968
>While I understand, why are you even in this thread then?
Maybe because there's literally 20 Overwatch threads in the catalog and they should GTFO to /vg/?
>>339174325
>>339177023
wrong. you fags are to blame. always with muh grafix, muh fps... not caring about much else.
I just don't understand what they were thinking with this cooldown system being the key element of the game. It's so horrible. Especially since the visual notification when it's ready again is so small and easy to overlook when you're in a fight leading to many cheap deaths.
Just frustrating. And without those skills characters basically can't do anything, just w+m1.
>>339177023
I wonder what the defense lines will be once the game starts to die because of all the terrible design decisions Blizzard crammed into this pile.
>>339177139
>I don't like dedicated servers in my FPS
Said nobody ever.
>>339177139
>no one says anything about graphics or FPS.
Holy shit, this wave of 12 year olds that came over /v/ with Overwatch. It's incredible. Really.
>>339176818
yes, the opinions of people who are actually good at the game are generally worth more than random shitters like you.
Mei is trash, a pubstomper at best like Bastion. She excels at nothing. McCree and Genji and Tracer are all ten times better at ambushing and taking out single targets, and Winston and even D.va are twenty times better at disrupting the enemy team. Mei offers literally nothing these heroes don't.
If you're having trouble with Mei, protip: don't go in to give her a hug, you dumb shit.
>>339177136
its a popular game and just came out, relax. Beside the /vg/ thread goes extremely fast
>>339177150
It's an FPS for the WoW/MOBA audience.
>>339175047
afaik, the competitive "e-sport" servers should have 60 tickrate. 20 is the default, but all tournaments etc. will be 60. not sure if that is true tho.
The visual clutter is honestly one of the worst things about Overwatch.
Someone please tell Blizzard that less is more.
So this was why that dude with CP was thanking Blizzard for being able to snipe in this game. That explains a lot. Why the fuck can someone play an FPS with just 2 finger movements.
>>339171964
So much this. 20 tick rate is hilariously shit.
this thread gives me a huge buyers remorse, please stop...
>>339177430
>visual clutter
>Overwatch
You should take a look at Stillborn if you want to see definition of visual clutter.
>Blizzard tries to do a 6v6 game like TF2's 6v6 format
>TF2 has 9 characters and in 6s meta they use AT MOST 5 or 6
>let's just make 21 characters lol yeah that sounds balanced
I don't know what the fuck they were excepting, if OW hopes to ever become an esport we should be prepared for the massive bans from tournament play. And from then on you can pretty much expect tier whores on every server.
It wouldn't be that bad if there were a high skill celling but holy shit, shit characters are just shit and good characters are just too good.
>>339177234
what exactly would a private server add? oh let me guess you're one of those 12 year old retards who plays on shitty tf2 maps like mario kart
>>339177243
>don't go in to give her a hug
So you don't actually play the game and don't know there are things like choke points and just want to post smug animu pictures while pretending to be hot shit which you clearly aren't. As a level 50 fag who plays for months with a friends we're both the opinion she is a broken piece of shit, I read on /v/ many times people think she is a broken piece of shit and I saw many people in the game, really good people, say she is a broken piece of shit.
The biggest issue with her isn't that she is so incredibly strong, the issue is she has zero skill ceiling, a monkey could wreck good players with her surprising them. Also,
>perfectly headshoot her with Genji
>just heals herself and you can't do fucking anything
>does her wall shit and escapes
>always
It's cancer. Grow up.
>>339170276
>trusting any killcams, especially when blizz said they're not 100% accurate
>calling bullet magnetism aim assist
>>339172846
You use sentries to close off routes. Symettra on Anubis defence for example is a godsend. On the first point if you can control the side route on the left (first blue circle) then you have the fight in the bag. Symettra can lock it down easily with her turrets while a bastion/Torb handles the main path.
Same with second point, she can lock down either flank route or the trench with the health kit on her own unless it's a major push.
Winston however does counter her near perfectly.
>>339177517
"unturnoffable"
>>339177532
>you're one of those 12 year old retards who plays on shitty tf2 maps like mario kart
No, because I can avoid these severs. But guess options and free will are too complex for OW players.
>>339177243
That's like saying "hurr, don't hug Reaper if you don't want to get killed by his ult." The game very often just boils down to gamble.
>>339177386
>60
>competitive
>>339177742
Nice shitpost.
>>339175415
>shitposting about something popular and the boogey man gets deleted.
woooow
Why did Blizz opt to leave out a minimap? I just want to know where my teammates are without having to constantly look around.
>>339177748
>i want options!
>i'm not going to tell you what those options are but I want them!!!!
>private servers are just good because reasons!
>>339177742
>tfw there is no way to turn down particle effects
I just want to be able to see what is going on during pushes
>>339170276
How can a hitbox be wonky?
You either know about the hitbox and hit, or you dont.
It is all on you.
>>339177649
>implying bullet magnetism isn't aim assist
Jesus christ please kill yourself
>>339172532
Almost as pathetic as shitters giving free visibility to a game they dont like by creating 20 treads per hours...
>>339177820
Because they don't want the casual CS audience.
>>339177532
>I want games to have no options
>I've never played on a jump map
>I've never surfed
>I've never used a retake, DM, or MGE server
I get that having more than one button to click when you load up a game can be confusing but the majority of people aren't as retarded as you
>>339170276
ok but how does your webm debunk "wonky hitboxes" and why do you think hitboxes being shitty is a defense
>>339177532
Let's say I'm a shitter who enjoy crappy modded maps. How I can play these on OW?
>>339174590
>Tier lists are absolute bullshit mostly comprising 1vs1 no items final destination only.
They're really not though, they're based on pick rate in 6v6 competitive matches.
>>339177845
not him but even if it is, so what? the game is clearly aimed at a more casual audience, like me. I wont hide it.
>>339177845
>being retarded
>>339170276
Hanzo is where this shit happens the most.
If your arrow is in the general vicinity of the target, the game registers a headshot and calls it a day.
I don't even think you can call lag or tickrate on this. Blizzard clearly made the hitboxes in this game forgiving as fuck.
>>339177842
it can
>jumping hitboxes
>>339177517
Nobody's playing Battleborn to see the visual clutter though.
>>339177532
For example? I could just pick a server with the map I actually want to play right now. Right now I'd like to play Hollywood/Paylord. Instead I must play this shitty Russian map I hate and then afterwards KOTH shit.
Also, users could just make it a 12vs12 game, or a 3vs3 game, whatever they want.
Hell, you can't even fucking change sides in this game. Is it even possible to invite a friend to a matchmaking game but play in different teams? I don't know. Probably not. Holy shit, this game is fucking embarrassing.
>>339177828
>>i'm not going to tell you what those options are but I want them!!!!
A lot of them are already posted on this thread, but guess a shill like you don't want to read/reply to these.
>>private servers are just good because reasons!
>private servers are just bad because reasons!
Also, what's exactly bad with both automated MM and privater servers? Tell us why less options are better, shill, I dare you.
>>339177915
>DM server
good use of private server. you can actually set these games up in custom games
>surf/jump maps
good in tf2 because of their physics. no added benefit in overwatch since you can't rocket jump or do weird things with the physics
>>339172532
servers in overwatch are peer-to-peer?
REALLY?
>>339177828
>hmm I want a game
>alright, let's open up servers
>no, I don't want mod servers
>no, I don't want trade server
>no, I don't want idle servers
>oh, there you go, default servers
>let's change it so I can pick the one with the lowest ping
Have you ever played an online FPS? I seriously don't get how do you now understand why are private servers better on every level
>>339172532
The game is horribly balanced, symmetra is useless, Bastion's damage needs a falloff, and mei is too straightforward and overpowered.
But it's entertaining, so I don't really care that much.
>>339177996
good, it's a game for kids. if you were expecting more then you can't read or you're retarded.
no calling you retarded, I'm just saying this was obvious from the start. No one's saying it's fucking hardcore CS, Quake, or whatever else.
>muh game is more hardcore than yours
who the fuck cares, it's still a toy you play with and don't get paid for. fuck off. (not directed at above poster, just posting in general)
>>339170276
its not THAT bad ingame, blizzard literally spoke out about it, its a killcam thing, did u fags ever watch killcams in other games?
>>339177815
Not sure what your point is but you don't know what a boogeyman is.
Why are all Overwatch fans obviously underage? I've never seen something like this on /v/. It's an epidemic, really.
>>339178064
More choice isn't always good. You'd have retards like you gravitating towards bad modes with stupid settings leaving the good servers empty and generally making the game less desirable. To me it adds value that I don't have to wade through garbage servers to find something good.
>>339178187
No, it's just a babb who doesn't know what dedicated servers means.
>>339177969
It's not that, that dipshit is saying that bullet magnetism isn't aim assist, when it's literally something that makes getting shots easier.
>>339178201
>symmetra useless
she isn't top tier but she's a threat with a coordinated team
