"We solemnly swear we're up to something good"
It's Adventure 3
>>339156532
Adventure died with the Dreamcast. Let that shit go.
>>339156532
>what is Sonic The Hedgehog
>3&K HD Remaster
fucking finally
>>339156759
The real Adventure 2 when you think about it.
>>339156793
>>3&K HD Remaster
>it's actually Sonic 3 Complete
Is it a game where you can date Vector?
>>339156993
Fake.
>>339156793
>wanting a remake of an ancient game instead of a good all-new one
>>339156453
>sonic 1-3 re-released in glorious hd 2.5d
>using classic sonic models
>no dialogue, friends or voiceovers, just classic sonic
>sonic episode 4 released for real
LOOK AT THE BACKGROUND FOR OP'S PIC YOU FUCKING JAPS
Sonic 06remade from the ground up.
>>339156759
If it was Adventure 3 they would have titled it as such
Why is it that some random no-name YouTuber can shit out a better design concept for a Sonic game than all but maybe three or four Sonic games released in the past 20 years? What makes Sonic Team incapable of creating a good Sonic game at the fundamental level?
I dont get it /v/.
Sonic Adventure was so good.
How did it all go downhill from there? Why didnt they just do what Nintendo does and make the same game but better?
And yes I am implying SA2 is worse than SA1.
>>339157687
you better not be referring to what I think you're referring to
>>339156759
oh, is it called adventure 3 on the box?fucking dumbass
>>339156993
>Unreal Engine
I'm going to vomit
>>339156453
>yfw the sonic game comes out before MN9 even get's a beta out
>>339157919
It's all CGI animation. It's not running in any engine
>>339156759
The first Sonic game debuting on the Sega Genesis in 1991.
Let's get this shit started
Adventure 2>Shadow>Adventure>Heroes>Black Knight>Colors>Secret Rings>Generations>Lost World>06>3D Blast>Boom
>>339156793
Please God let dis happen
>>339157861
Depends on what you think I'm referring to.I'm not talking about "give Sonic a backpack and make him vulnerable"
It's Sonic Boom: Fire and Ice
>>339157585
If they change the story I'll be ecstatic. Sonic 06's only two problems were glitches and bad story and dialogue.
>>339157627
>>339157870
Just because it didn't have fucking "Adventure 3" in the title doesn't mean it wasn't meant to be the next entry in that series, on top of that, name could have been dropped in development
Like Paper Mario TTYD was under Paper Mario 2 until late into development. Doesn't mean it isnt Paper Mario 2
>>339157769
SA1 was fucking horrible.
>>339158102
From what aspect is this list correct. If it's gameplay, you've got some explaining to do.
>>339158248
It wasn't even a sequel to the Sonic Adventure series, and it wasn't meant to be. It was a completely different installment in the Sonic game, it was essentially a reboot.
>>339158197
The story would have been okay if they finished it along with the rest of the game. It had the pieces but was never put together properly, just like nearly everything else in the game
>>339158197
>two problems
>lists three
>>339156759
>le "2006 trash game that is nothing like the adventure series is actually an adventure game" meme
When will this officially die?
just take all the 2d games, including the advanced series, and make it hd.
call it "sonic 2d remix."
>>339158248
Yes but TTYD still has Paper Mario in the title. 06 doesn't have Adventure in the title.
>>339158301
Fuck off Arin
A fishing game with Big, set in the sonic boom universe, using the 06 engine, and with branching story paths that can't be save stated
>>339158312
Subjective opinion. It's all-around enjoyment I guess.
>>339158248
>DmC is DMC5
I'm hoping we don't have to wait until that stupid party in July to see what's up.
SEGA has a booth at E3 this year. Why WOULDN'T they showcase Sonic on his 25th anniversary (one week from the exact day no less) there?
>>339158301
SA1 was amazing.
2 was mediocre at best.
>>339157687
General incompetence.
SEGA slashing their budgets and time mid-project.
Takashi Iizuka being on the same planet as them
>>339158197
Sonic 06 only had one problem, which was "everything." It'd need to be remade from the ground up just to be playable, let alone good.
>>339158376
Explain how it isn't without mentioning the title or Chao Garden.
>multiple characters
>multiple gameplay styles
>same story told from three different perspectives
>same base gameplay for Sonic, just glitchier
>hub world
>emblem collecting (medals)
>>339158513
>tfw SEGA wins E3 and blows Sony the fuck out
>>339158339
>has different stories that converge into a final story with Super Sonic vs a super boss
>features segments with several different characters, from Tails to Omega
>introduces bosses like Adventure 1 and 2 did, just in a different way (boss name zooms across screen rather than being typed out)
Literally Adventure 3
>>339157292
>implying it's possible for modern Sonic Team to make a good all-new one
The people who originally made Sonic a great series on Genesis left the company.
>>339158376
The mechanics and the way to story campaigns were set up was literally 100% exactly like how the adventure series worked.
>>339158356
"Bad story and dialogue" is one problem you fucking dumbass. The dialogue is part of the story.
>I love SA1
>BUT SA2 IS THE FUCKING DEVIL REEEE
What's this new leddit reddit schmeddit opinion?
When SA3 comes out the praise will be added on to SA2 with everyone shitting on SA3
>dude like sa2 is nostalgiac and all but on the contrary..
>>339158681
No it isn't.
>>339158469
I can't play this on my browser and I'm fucking pissed.>>33
Weather or not Sonic'06/unleashed/whatever is really the "spiritual SA3" or is moot.
The point people are trying to make when bringing it up is that we've had games with Adventure elements since SA2 and they've been shit. It's a counter-point to all the people clamoring for an SA3 as if it will automatically make the franchise good again.
>>339158595
>not a sequel to the adventure series and essentially a reboot
You can stop now.
>>339158535
>what is Big the Cat
Protip: it's something Sonic Shitventure 1 had that Sonic Basedventure 2 didn't
>>339158569
>Explain how Heroes isn't without mentioning the title or Chao Garden.
>>multiple characters
>>multiple gameplay styles
>>same story told from four different perspectives
>>same base gameplay for Sonic, just glitchier
>>emblem collecting (medals)
>>339158798
>stop wanting games i don't want! STOP IT! I-it's not like Sonic 06 or Unleashed is Adventure 3 anyways....
cuck off
>>339158864
>what is Big the Cat
A big qt.
please god let this game be once again just about a silly hedgehog collecting rings instead of the autism fest that sonic has become
>>339158569
The music was perfectly fine and the gameplay would be decent if not for glitched physics.
>>339158612
>implying the Genesis games were good
>>339158879
But this hasn't happened since 2008 so this image is no longer relevant
>>339157769
>Sonic Adventure was so good.
lel
>>339158907
>I'll happily eat shit as long as it's labelled "Sonic Adventure 3"
>>339158879
To be fair, the friends really do seem to have gone away now.
>>339158952
>BUT ON THE CONTRARY MY FAIR SIR
DUDE WE'RE LIKE HIPSTERS LOOK HOW CONTRARIAN WE ARE LOOOLL
fuck off
>>339158804
>IT DOESN'T HAVE "ADVENTURE 3" IN THE NAME SO IT DOESN'T COUNT! REEEEEEEEEEEE!
I bet you think Pokemon Gold and Silver aren't sequels to Red and Blue, despite their tentative titles being "Pokemon 2"
sonic 1 is goat
>>339158879
>>339156453
I'm gonna be pretty butthurt if they're advertising their shit with Genesis-era Sonic without actually making a game that looks and plays like a sequel to the Genesis Sonic games. I'm not saying that should be the only Sonic game they make (relax boostfags), but it should be one of them, even if it means hiring some indie developer to make it.
>>339158878
>>339158569
Both Heroes and 06 can both technically be called Adventure 3.
>>339159029
Fuck off scatboy
>>339159083
Nigga Sonic 06 was a fucking reboot
You're a fucking retard
>>339159175
And Pokemon Gold and Silver were reboots too. Because they have different names. That's totally a fact and not being pulled out of my ass.
>>339159065
They weren't good though. Sonic plays much better in a 3D platforming environment. This is why his stages in the adventure games are so revered and why nobody likes the other playstyles he's had over the years.
>>339159265
>this is what modern sonic fans actually believe
You just think it's better because it's easier and more "cinematic". You prefer the modern games because you can hold down the boost button and just watch Sonic run very fast down a hallway.
>>339159346
Sonic Unleashed is called Sonic World Adventure in Japan. Guess that makes it Sonic Adventure 3.
>>339159385
>You just think it's better because it's easier and more "cinematic". You prefer the modern games because you can hold down the boost button and just watch Sonic run very fast down a hallway.
I basically just said that boost is cancer you idiot
>>339159425
Only in Japan though
>>339158864
>he never say Big's cameos in SA2
Literal cancer
>>339159385
While that's mostly true, the levels, like in Generations, do have several alternate paths throughout that you'll miss by just boost-to-win, so they're at least figuring it out.
>mfw it's Unleashed 2
>>339159265
This is bait.
>>339159742
Cool, Sonic Adventure 4!
>>339156993
This shit looks like it's a mod of Little Big Planet. It's fucking terrible.
Sonic Adventure& Knuckles
>>339157769
>Sonic Adventure was so good.
Yeah ok
>>339157769
SA1 has all of SA2's problems, some are just worse in SA2 because of rushed development and a switch in the development midway through to have Rouge, Shadow and Tails playable.
>>339159895
Knuckles & Knuckles in Knuckles' Knuckles & Knuckles & Knuckles: Starring Knuckles & Knuckles: Featuring Knuckles from the Knuckles & Knuckles series & Knuckles
>>339158197
>beyond terrible story
>horrible controls
>loading
>empty hub world
>loading
>shadow's fucking vehicle sections
>no actual physics of any kind
>off the wall glitches
>slowdown
It's terrible
>>339158248
Anon, what you saying boy?
With that said, Sonic CD is the real Sonic 3 and Sonic 3/&K is actually the real Sonic 4/&K
Fuck off with this shit logic. Sequel /= direct sequel. A game "can" in story take place after previous games before it, but a "sequel" by name is a direct continuation by both game styles and story.
But it doesn't matter, SEGA can call any new Sonic game SA3 because the fucking game doesn't exist by name officially. So fuck off with that shit.
>>339160076
Well, his cock does go through boulders, and he does fight for nico nico nii.
>>339158376
>that is nothing like the adventure series
>different storyline game modes that intersect
>gameplay style is more similar to Adventure games than anything like Unleashed or heroes
>overly serious story that's pretty awful
>"real world" sonic
It's the fucking same
>>339160172
>no actual physics of any kind
Because we need physics in every game?
>>339160312
Uhhh..Yeahh??!!
>>339158804
Who the fuck cares whether it continues the story? Only autists actually care about the story in Sonic games.
Structurally it's the exact same.
>>339156532
Sonic Heros was originally going to be A3. takes place directly after SA2. also sonic 06 was originally going to be A3. Everytime they try that it goes to shit.
I'd rather Generations 2 or a game of just the Modern Levels from Generations and the Day Time Hedgehog Levels of Unleashed.
>>339160312
Yes, especially in a platformer, consistent physics are important. They define how your character moves and interacts with the world.
>>339160312
What the fuck does that mean
>>339160416
06 is not part of the Adventure series.
Give up, cuck.
>>339160376
No.
Fuck you.
I'm going to make a Sonic game where all you do is stay stationary in the middle of a black background. Not floating, because that's physics too. You're just stuck in one place while His World plays.
>No Knuckles treasure hunting
>No Rouge stealth
>No Omega that plays like a DMC version of Gamma
>No good Silver gameplay ever
>No new Rush
>No new Riders
It's gonna be Sonic, Tails and Eggman and maybe some one-off side characters. It's fucking shit.
Who is this Sonic autist who's shown up these last few weeks vehemently defending Adventure and 06?
>>339160529
>YOU'RE WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO REEEEEEEE!
>>339160627
Stop projecting.
>>339160529
>Give up
What? I've just come into this thread and I see you defending 06 and Adventure like you've done so for the last few weeks. Structurally they are exactly the same. It's an Adventure game in everything but title, who the fuck cares if it continues the plot?
>>339160601
I'm sure it's not one, there's been multiple people in the past months defending Shadow the fucking Hedgehog
>>339160494
>define how your character moves and interacts with the world
It's called controls.
>>339160562
I hope it is Sticks.
>>339160693
I wasn't defending 06 or Adventure.
Sonic 06 is a reboot of the sonic series.
It's not a sequel to any Adventure game.
>>339160529
Not in name, but in terms of gameplay style and design, it's basically an Adventure game.
>>339159175
06 implied SA2 and Shadow had occurred, at least in Shadow's bio in the manual. He works for GUN after Shadow ends.
>>339160710
Shadow was at least interesting for its' morality and mission based progression, even if the actual gameplay was garbage.
>>339156759
It's in the same vein, but no chao garden = not Sonic Adventure
>>339156453
why must you turn my office into a house lies?
>>339160780
What about gravity with jumps? In fact, jumping at all is physics too. Same with running.
why the fuck is everyone so excited about them announcing another Sonic Boom game
>>339160901
But the gameplay was pretty good.
>the state of this thread
>>339158569
>multiple characters
Sonic Heroes
>multiple gameplay styles
Technically team mechanic in Sonic Heroes
>same story told from three different perspectives
Sonic Heroes. And "told from three different perspectives", what do you mean by this? SA1 had six different characters.
>same base gameplay for Sonic, just glitchier
Sonic Heroes
>hub world
Unleashed
>emblem collecting (medals)
Technically Sonic Heroes, Unleashed.
And at least Unleashed in Japan is named "Sonic World Adventure" while both Sonic Heroes (which had a more direct story continuation from SA2 than 06 did) and 06 doesn't have Adventure anywhere in their names.
Face it, this meme needs to fucking die. It's Sonic Adventure 3 WHEN SEGA says it's Sonic Adventure 3 no matter what you faggots say, fucking autists.
>Sonic 06 is TECHNICALLY Sonic Adventure 3
Literally who gives a fuck. 06, Heroes and Unleashed all have elements that could qualify them to be true successors to SA, but then Sonic and Knuckles ("hurr it's one game"), Knuckles Chaotix, Sonic 3D Blast, Sonic Advance and Sonic Adventure all have features that could qualify them to be the "true" Sonic 4. Didn't stop SEGA from making a game called Sonic 4 anyway.
Nobody should care what was "technically" Sonic Adventure 3, because SEGA will make Sonic Adventure 3 regardless - it's too good of a marketing opportunity to turn up. The people who keep saying this shit should feel ashamed for being retards, and the people who feel the need to argue against it in every thread should be equally ashamed for thinking it makes a difference whether or not it was really SA3.
We'll be getting """""SA3""""" for the anniversary. 06's status is irrelevant
>all these contrarians in this thread defending sonic 06 and shadow while shitting on the classics and claiming adventure 3 is sonic 06
JUST KEKOLD MY SHITTU UP
>>339161051
Now you're just being crazy, anon.
>>339160975
The sad thing is, Boom; Fire and Ice will probably be the only game we get this year for the anniversary.
>Since Sonic '06, and not counting Boom because it's basically a Sonic game in name only, the only game we've had where we can play as someone aside from Sonic was Black Knight
I just want to play as my homeboy Knuckles again without having to mod my game.
>>339158376
SA had one sonic
SA2 had 2 sonics with 2 main storylines
SA3 had 3 sonics with 3 main storylines
>>339157769
I used to love both the adventure games but having replayed them recently they just aren't that fun. SA1 is especially dated
>>339160790
No one's saying it's a real "sequel", just that in concept it's essentially the same.
>>339160780
Controls and physics are inextricably linked, Anon. In a platformer, hell in any game where the interface is more than menus, you cannot have one without the other.
>>339161202
Sonic dash
Sonic runners
>>339161241
Wow..Really Makes You Think....
>>339160790
>Sonic 06 is a reboot of the sonic series.
It really isn't. That's something Sega said when the game was being hyped before release, but there is absolutely no way you can call it a reboot. It references previous games, has tons of characters that return instead of be reintroduced, and build on previous game mechanics. There is nothing about it that's remotely a reboot.
>>339158102
You know, I really enjoyed sonic 3D blast
>>339160901
The morality could have been interesting if the missions weren't completely half-assed. Most of the levels didn't even feel like they were designed around missions, like they made a regular ol' 3D Sonic level and then just slapped generic "kill all aliens" and "kill all GUN" missions on it. Then the levels that felt like they were actually built around missions, like Central City, are some of the worst levels in the entire franchise.
>>339161092
Not him, but Sonic Heroes had a different control scheme with you controlling teams of three at once. 06 on the other hand is more like Adventure, splitting up characters with their own much more distinct playstyles, Sonic for speed, Knuckles for gliding/wall climbing, Tails for flying, so on.
>>339161264
if it's not a real sequel it's not adventure 3
if sega makes adventure 3 then it's adventure 3
>>339161335
>Sonic runnersIt's closing next month
>>339160070
The Rouge/Knuckles and Tails/Eggman segments in SA2 were total shit. Besides Big, the worst in SA1 is Amy and even those arent that bad.
>>339160070
>SA1 has all of SA2's problems,
SA2 has its own unique problems
Like the metal detector only detecting one thing at a time meaning you can walk right past a shard and not know it
>>339161241
Woah...
>>339161093
>Nobody should care what was "technically" Sonic Adventure 3, because SEGA will make Sonic Adventure 3 regardless - it's too good of a marketing opportunity to turn up.
Then why have they passed it up so many times? You think people weren't clamoring just as hard for SA3 before Unleashed came out?
Sonic Heroes is the worst Sonic game.
>>339161181
The only people defending 06 here are also defending Adventure.
How is Sonic Boom (3DS) ?
>>339161395
>it's not really a reboot even though sega said it was
>>339161401
The soundtrack was GOAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uNUdf_AZoE
>>339161194
I mean, the movement was a bit splashy at times but that's because it used the same engine as Heroes IIRC. They are a number of improvements over Heroes, however.
>Fixed rail switching while grinding
>Spindash
>Better music (Lava Shelter is GOAT)
>No need for shitty powerups to do damage
>All of those stages that wouldn't work in a regular sonic game
I know it still had a lot of problems, like aiming guns in rails and some of the vehicles, but it's in my top 5 Sonic games
>>339161417
Oh sure, I said interesting but not good.
Levels like Sky Troops or The Ark are some of the worst examples of level design in games in general, not just Sonic.
>>339161435
So what makes Adventure 2 a "real sequel"?
>>339158102
Generations > Adventure > Adventure 2 > Colors > 3D Blast > Heroes > Everything else
>>339158102
>Shadow this high
Good
>Above Heroes
Come on anon
>Above COlors AND Generations
Please stop
>Above 3D
... think of the children!
>>339161518
Why did they take some 16-odd years to make Sonic 4?
SEGA work in mysterious and retarded ways. But I have no doubt that the Adventure nostalgia has grown strong enough for the jews up top to take notice and make a pale imitation. It may not be for the 25th necessarily, but it's only a matter of time before it does happen
>>339161642
The title itself and continuation of the "Station Square arc" and Chao Garden.
If SEGA has never said that Sonic 06 is a sequel to any Adventure game, then it's not a fucking sequel. I don't care about your headcanon.
>>339161618
Fuck you faggot Sky Troops was great
>>339161546
Sega said it in some marketing before the game released. Sega says a bunch of dumb shit in marketing that never comes to be, and they didn't keep saying it was a reboot as the game actually came out.
>>339161546
>stealing from sonic adventure
holy shit how lazy were the 3D blast devs?
>>339161772
To bait on nostalgia, obviously.
>>339161772
>Why did they take some 16-odd years to make Sonic 4?
They didn't take 16 years
They took 1 year
They just didn't bother to use that title until they thought it would bait the right amount of nostalgia
>>339161429
That doesn't discount any of my other points though. Neither does that point, he said "multiple gameplay styles" and Sonic Heroes did the same, just at the same time in one main story. Again, it doesn't matter. Basically just what >>339161093 said.
>>339161797
>title
Not what people are arguing
>"Station Square arc"
What? Just that it has Station Square? Ok.
>Chao Garden
Wow a chaos raising mini game segregated from the actual core gameplay.
>>339161959
>. Neither does that point, he said "multiple gameplay styles" and Sonic Heroes did the same, just at the same time in one main story.
If it's all at the same time, it's not multiple gameplay styles. It's just one more complicated gameplay style.
Can't we just get a good, fast, robust physics based platform game. I honestly do not give a fuck if it's 2D or 3D (but choose one and stick with it please), nor do I care if 2006 is Adventure 3 or not because why the fuck are we not still pretending that game never happened. Leave it buried.
Taxman Engine spiritual successor to Sonic 3 & Knuckles would be the dream but I don't see that being very likely
>>339161589
That the gameplay is improved over Heroes isn't saying much, Heroes controlled like shit.
Some of the stages were fine but often got way too convoluted just to accomodate the mission types.
The music is great though, for sure, though at some point that's not really an argument since it's true for the majority of Sonic games.
>>339161835
pls no
>>339162050
It should have more levels than 3&K. It needs to be HUGE.
>>339161772
>NSMB was successful
>MN9 was successful
>therefore
>>339158102
Generations>Unleashed (day stages)>Adventure>Adventure 2>Lost World>Colors>the rest
>>339162142
Mighty No. 09 will bomb.
Do you think management at Sega looked at sales of Sonic 4 and assumed that no one wants 2D Sonic games? Or are they aware that the quality wasn't high enough? Surely they noticed that NSMB and DKCR both sold millions of copies, right?
>S T I L L no game announcement, all we have is Fire & Ice and Twitter maymays
please make it stop
>>339162035
> it's not multiple gameplay styles because it's happening at the same time
> No same teammate characters does the same the other can
> Not different, multiple gamestyles
???
>>339162230
Sonic 4 sold millions over all consoles, don't know what your problem is anon
>>339162276
E3
>>339162229
>will
>>339162229
>>339162142
whoops, meant MM9
We won't get Adventure 3 for quite some time because Sega still think that having side characters other than Tails is a bad thing. You can't have a Sonic Adventure game without side characters to have alternate gameplay styles. Plus, Sonic isn't serious enough as a character anymore to be in anything above Colors level plot lines. He's too snarky and sarcastic these days.
It just wouldn't work and you know it, anons. Search your hearts for you know I speak the truth.
>>339162319
Sega aren't doing anything at E3, the best we've got is some July thing they're doing.
>>339162319
They already confirmed it won't be at E3 m8
>this is what sonic fans are making every day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xln0a0HIX5Y
>>339160235
Sonic CD is an alternate Sonic 2
>>339162135
I don't necessarily know if it would be worth having a 2D Sonic game be longer than S3K - I personally think it was exactly the right length for a single playthrough. That isn't to say there couldn't be more levels though - I'd be very interested in an otherwise traditional Sonic game that has branching level choices based on whether you finish the level on a low, medium or high path. That way, the game would be similar in length to S3K but would have waaaaaaay more replayability.
Pic kinda related.
>>339162381
>Sega still think that having side characters other than Tails is a bad thing.
OR they finally realised that developing a game with 6 or even 3 unique gameplay modes that have any semblance of depth is not something that they have the team nor budget for, so they decide to live within their means
>>339162064
I'm fully convinced that Shadow has the best Sonic OST. The only other game that comes close is Black Knight because they let the audio director do what he wanted
>>339162381
I don't want SA3, I'd rather have an Unleashed 2 but without the werehog.
Unleashed had some great levels but the werehog shit ruined it.
>Generations 2
Generations showed that ST are incapable of doing proper classic physics so I'd rather they just focus on one style.
>>339162521
Yeah, it is somewhat, but some people said it came out after 2 I heard so that's what I used Sonic 3 as the comparison.
>>339162381
>Sega still think that having side characters other than Tails is a bad thing.
isn't?
>>339162381
Alternate gameplay styles is a bad thing. Sega can barely develop one game at a time, why would you want them trying to stuff three games into the same dev cycle?
>>339162592
I'd rather not have shitty boost thanks
>>339162381
>because Sega still think that having side characters other than Tails is a bad thing.
Considering they can barely get Sonic's gameplay down, they're right.
>>339156993
>Sonic doesn't accelerate
>>339156993
>that zoomed in camera
>>339162610
It did, but it was developed at the same time as 2.
>>339158595
But the Adventure games were apart of the same overarching story, from Sonic Adventure 1 all the way up to Shadow the Hedgheg.
Sonic 06 was a reboot
>>339156993
Why is it so slow
>>339156993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXycBv3Rlk
>>339162730
Boost is fine, anon.
If you use it right you can still get on to alternate paths and go fast.
Though I'd still like to see them try a game without it, as it still feels like a cop out.
>>339159263
>Pokemon Gold and Silver are reboots
no they aren't you dumbass. They take place in the same universe. you can even see the effects of the first game in the goddamn story.
Sonic 06 doesn't even reference any of the previous games
For real though, there's nothing they could do which would please everyone.
>>339156532
The Adventure games fucking suck balls. End yourselves.
>>339163318
Fuck OFF, ARIN.
>>339160070
SA1's levels weren't nearly as linear
SA1 didn't have as many automated sections as SA2
>>339163396
People have been calling SA shit long before meme grumps played it, and them sharing that opinion does not invalidate it
>>339162907
>>339162878
>>339162996
All of these. I know that was just CGI but damn that looks like shit to play if it was a game.
Now I feel like playing Sonic and Knuckles.
>tfw I enjoyed the Sonic Adventure series.
I enjoyed it :)
>>339158585
What was with those facial animations?
>>339163648
you have autism :)
>>339163396
>capslock
>assuming egoraptor
Fuck off newfag, disliking Adventure doesn't mean you watch that clown.
>>339160529
Sonic 06 was more than likely meant to be Adventure 3 but they changed it for whatever reason and made it into a reboot.
>>339163779
You're a cuckold
![level_grid[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kEcUIpI.jpg "level_grid[1].jpg")
>>339162548
so like Shadow the Hedgehog?
>>339163737
1999 tech
SA1 is LITERALLY a tech demo for the dreamcast. Why do you think there were so many random gameplay things that were only used once? Why do you think chaos was made out of water?
Why they don't give up on SUPPAFAST action levels (because they can't get the camera to work in so many of those games) and make a RPG type of thing?
I feel like a lot of their fans will like this more they just want to talk to the other characters and have a "story" anyways.
You could still have platforming/combat.
CAN'T HOLD ONNN MUCH LONGER
I WILL NEVER LET GOO
I KNOW IT'S A ONE-WAY TRAP
TELL ME NOW HOW LONG THIS'LL LAST
>>339163737
I guess game devs couldnt take advantage of morph targets back then
>>339161258
I will always go back and replay SA1 through Sonic Heroes. I like playing them so watching things like their mouths move out of sync doesn't bother me.
>>339163918
bioware tried that and it fucking sucked
>>339163918
They did that with the sonic game Bioware made
it was shit
>>339158595
Who cares anymore? There's tons of games in series that play like other ones in other sub series, but they're not connected. Sonic '06 can be as close to the Adventure games as it wants, until Sega officially states that's it's SA3, it's not.
>>339161093
Sonic Team shows they are very immature by purpousely not acknowledging their past mistakes and pretending 06 wasn't actually Adventure 3, like everyone in the world that isn't autist already knows.
>>339163918
Ever played The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road?
Because that is how I imagine a Sonic JRPG would play.
>>339163070
They tried that with Lost World...
>>339163484
>the "people always hated the Adventure games" meme
>>339161589
>Fixed rail switching while grinding
I've unlocked the hard mode in Sonic Heroes and I never had a problem with the rail switching ever. I've only played the Gamecube version though which is apparently the best/least glitchy version so maybe it's something to do with that?
>>339164151
>An intended reboot to the entire series was actually supposed to be a 2nd sequel to the adventure series
>anyone who disagrees with me is an autist
nice bait
Why do you even care anymore?
Sega has proved themselves to be incompetent time after time
>>339164450
I NEED TO PLAY WITH MY SONIKS DAD
GO AW/A/Y
>>339163993
It's not even the hilarious animatons, the controls and overall production just feels off to me. SA2's final boss can be beaten by mashing the a and b buttons, and is easy as fuck. Things like that. The games were just not what I remember them being back then.
I can see why people like them, though.
>>339164305
>t. sonic autist forum's personal ranking charts
>>339164305
I'm not buying too much into it, but it's worth noting that 3D games were still having their rules set when Adventure came out. While it was after Mario 64, it was very common for titles in a 3D world to be a lot jankier than they are now and perhaps more than most people remember them. I know that I was surprised when I played the Adventure games recently.
>>339164394
>intended reboot
Name one thing about the actual CONTENT of Sonic 06 that implies it was a reboot
>>339164297
I mean like Unleashed but without boost, not whatever Lost World was.
>>339164941
Blaze
>>339164995
It's not the first time they've used a character first introduced in a spinoff and ignored the original backstory
>>339163901
If Shadow The Hedgehog had good gameplay, the levels more varied in assets, and the branches were determined by route taken instead of bullshit morality choices, yes
Sonic Team will probably never try branching again because Shadow sucked, but that was actually a solid idea in itself, it was just poorly executed. A similar branching paths mechanic in a game with classic 2D gameplay or 3D boost formula would be the tits
>>339164995
that's just bad writing
>>339164941
Eggman's everything
>>339164394
>An intended reboot
Not sure how it would be an intended reboot considering the story basically retcons itself.
>>339164941
Not that guy, but I'm almost entirely sure that it was SEGA themselves who were marketing it as a soft reboot in the early stages (i.e. before they showed Silver and pals). This misconception didn't come from nowhere, I assure you
>>339157769
Just make a Chao Garden game for the 3DS.
>>339165317
The point I'm trying to make is the notion that it's a 'reboot' came from the marketing department and not the development team
>>339165194
Egg Carrier was in it though
>>339165093
>>339165154
>this damage control
Consider yourself cucked.
>>339157769
The only aspect of Sonic Adventure I miss is the hub worlds. Sonic Adventure 2 is better in every single way.
>>339164941
It seems more like a seperate universe than an actual reboot, Boom style.
They just tried to make things more realistic, which for a game about anthropomorphic animals who run fast and travel through time is hilarious.
>>339164305
Every time the game got re-released it got worse reviews. It aged like milk.
>>339165130
I think the branching in Shadow was pretty cool but most of them boiled down to fucking collectathons in Sonic style built for speed levels and were incredibly tedious to backtrack through once you'd realised you hadn't slaughtered every soldier in Westopolis for example.
They really should have just made it more skill based like you have to make it to the end within a time limit. Some of them did do that but not a lot of them.
>>339165609
Except gameplay.
>>339165658
Maybe because it didn't improve on the original at all? Like a remake should?
>>339165609
>Sonic Adventure 2 is better in every single way.
Metal detector only detects one shard at a time, making it very possible that you miss one and have to backtrack everywhere you went
>>339165658
>>339165708
They also became buggier because they were ports of ports.
>>339163070
>cop out
That's actually the perfect term for how I feel about it
>>339165708
>Maybe because it didn't improve on the original at all? Like a remake should?
Do you understand what a port is
>>339165708
They never claimed to be remakes
>>339165747
>minor design flaw makes the entire game completely shit
fuck off retard
>>339165775
Are you unironically suggesting that the 30% decrease in rating is because of a few bugs that aren't even noticeable to those who didn't play the dreamcast version
>>339164814
>Not recognizing Gamerankings
How new.
>>339165609
>Sonic Adventure 2 is better in every single way.
The Speed levels are better, yes, but having to play through the boring Hunting and shit Shooting levels to get to the next Speed level made it worse for me.
>There are literally supreme autismos who even know what the sonic games past genesis are let alone actually played them
WEW LAD
This is some incredibly concentrated autism. I think CWC himself may even be present ;^)
>>339165950
Are you saying you haven't even played Tails' Skypatrol or Sonic Shuffle? You know nothing about video games, please leave.
