Which Final Fantasy was more disappointing, 8 or 13?
I didn't play VIII till much later, so XIII. I thought that game was going to be incredible. And it even got fantastic reviews.
Then I played it and kept thinking "It's gonna get better, right...?"
When I played VIII I had liked Squall for a long time and thought his design was really cool, then I played the game and very quickly hated the fuck out of him.
Design is still kinda cool though, same withLightning.
XIII. VIII was infuriating instead.
13 hands down.
8 is the best FF
>>339155274
But I was disappointed by neither. I love VIII AND XIII. The Junction system in VIII is kind of cool and I adore the overall battle system in XIII. It puts more emphasis on timing.
8 was one of the best. Top 3 easy.
I had a love hate relationship with XIII, while going through VIII was agony. I took a long vacation with the game downloaded on my PSP and I was pretty much shooting to just get it over with after disk two, even though I stopped for some of the side quests like Odin.
Well, let's see:
Final Fantasy VIII was quite possibly the biggest launch in FF's history except for the likely big launch of FF XV coming up.
It went right after what many consider the best FF game (and undeniably the most popular one)
It was marketed to hell, far more than FF VII was, due to the stupid amounts of cash Square got for FF VII.
Release: It was just above average. Wasn't the second coming of christ like people expected it to. Sold poorly compared to FF VII. Most still thought it was alright though, and while a slight dissapointment, still a good game
FFXIII on the other hand...
It came out after FFXII, while it's my favorite FF it's possibly the most hated one (at the time) and many thought the series had gone on decline after the massive success of FFX not being followed up by either XI or XII.
It was basically one of the big 'next gen' games at the time and much like FFVIII it was marketed to hell and back. It also had the best graphics at the time which gave it a big marketing boost. It was also marketed as a return to form for FF that gave those wanting more FFX a boner.
Release. It's below average. FF fans hate it. Non-FF fans hate it. It was linear, mediocre, the battle system was even more hated than FF XII, it was awful, just about everyone thought it was the blunder of the century. It sold like hot cakes regardless.
Worst game is arguable. But most dissapointing? FF XIII, by far.
Why did Rinoa even care about Squall fucking seriously
>>339156460
Girls love losers who lose against alpha males in the duels and get scars, right?
8 got fucking shit after disc 2, i haven't played anything so disappointing
>>339155274
Only thing stopping me from playing the game is the Draw system, I fucking hate that shit.
>>339155274
8 because I already went into 13 with low expectations.
8 had:
an unbearable cast
horrible ways to get magic (drawing or the card game)
a card game where the AI cheats
a poorly written love story
the plot went full retard, even by FF standards, on disc 3
levelscaling when no other FF had it
>>339156183
>FF8 sold poorly
fucking what, it's widely know that it out sold 7, which is to say before subsequent releases anyway.
this is widely found information.
It was review extremely well also. while some had an issue with junction MOST didn't
VIII is really not that bad, XIII is way worse.
>>339155274
12, obviously.
It's the reason why we got the 13 shittology.
>>339155274
Both games have linear and dull combat.
However, VIII's narrative is rich and rewarding because it can be interpreted with consistency. XIII is only occasionally coherent, and lacks VIII's sophistication.
>>339157023
But XII is the best one.
>>339157024
>VIII's narrative is rich and rewarding
>>339157024
>VIII's narrative is rich and rewarding
>>339157086
It's the very definition of cancer.
And if you liked it, you are the reason for the downfall of JRPGs.
>>339155274
I finished 8. Stop playing 13 after first boss.
I am not here to tell which is better/worse. I might just getting old and jaded when starting 13.
>>339157152
Why?
>>339157097
Are you confused because I'm not repeating memes about how VIII makes no sense and the writers must've been hacks who made it all up during a coffee break?
>>339157152
Anon,i hope you understand that not liking FF12 is a mark of a true pleb ?
>>339157024
VIII was a mess. The Laguna shit is shoehorned in without being important at all, 2/3 of the cast is completely flavorless, and we're supposed to just lay down and take it when the game tries to sell us on the idea of a school for mercenary children in a world where only two city states exist. (as far as everyone knows)
I doubt you are old enough to have been disappointed when 8 came out.
>>339157251
I think he is confused at the bullshit statement of "VIII's narrative is rich and rewarding"
that's like saying "MGS2's narrative is rich and rewarding" when it's also a clusterfuck and a bad game compared to the previous entry in the series
>>339157246
Are you dumb?
>>339157674
Please do not liken MGS2 to that of FFVIII. Jack and Rose may have been equally insufferable, but at least by the end of the game they are still decent characters who act like actual human beings.
>>339156659
8 Got fucking shit after the intro.
>>339157863
>but at least by the end of the game they are still decent characters who act like actual human beings.
Rose was a bitch so early on I ended up skipping anything she said like half an hour into Big Shell
and Raiden was so unbearable/un-likeable/not decent in 2 that it took fucking MGR to make him a decent person
>>339155274
Both
>>339156460
He was the best looking guy in the party and women only want Chad.
I like 8
drawing never bothered me too much, and I would sit there drawing to 100 on every one I could, wish there was a way to make it less tedious tho
I liked the junction system
the story was alright, I didn't hate it
8 was fine.
It had some of the best FF moments, locations and music.
>>339158385
You know you can transform items into magic, right?
>>339158850
don't need very specific items and refine skills to get the spells you want?
Like cottages and refine life magic to get Curagas on disc 1?
Truth is, looking back on the ff games.
The only decent one is 6. The rest if them are designed 12 year olds. Which was fine, but the fact that they are degrades the seriousness that they so brazingly try to be portray.
>>339158850
yea I know but early game I was drawing everying
the point I was making was drawing didn't bother me
>>339159145
6 wasn't very serious either. Characters act like man children for a good 70% of the game.
>>339157586
The dreams about Laguna act as premonitions about what Squall is about to face next. FFVIII likes the idea of cyclical time, and Squall and Laguna are an example of a non-literal loop where Squall stands for Laguna and Rinoa for Julia, (literally their descendants) and Ellone's involvement creates a new timeline where Laguna and Julia get together.
Also, FFVIII is fiction, the locations are part of the narrative and extensions of Squall's character that reflect his current situation and/or mental state. The game is specifically focused on Squall, he is the most important character and that's why most of the supporting characters are not portrayed with comparable complexity.
>>339159247
In fact, part of the problem in FVIII and FFXIII is that characters were often too serious, and other characters were bland tropey anime characters to compensate.
>>339159145
>The only decent one is 6.
Literally stopped reading there.
The only good FF games are FFT, FFX, FF3, and FF5.
>>339159145
>The only decent one is 6.
I wany Kefkafags to go
>>339159364
I'll give you tatics.
Those games are legendary.
>>339159364
>5
>good
Job system was the only decent thing about it
XIII. VIII had highschool shit but still felt like a FF. XIII was just pure, undiluted shit.
What the fuck was the idea behind leveling making VIII more difficult?
The scaling system was so unbalanced that the best way to play the game was to minimize exp gain.IMAGINE THAT, AN RPG WHERE YOU SHOULDN'T LEVEL UP
>>339159324
FF7 was weird as hell with shit like Honey Bee Inn, Cait Sith, Hell Houses and such just slapped on there like they were all perfectly normal. FF8 tried to clean the weird stuff up and ended up being too serious for its own good.
>>339157705
No.
>>339159364
Correct and XII would have been up there if the creator didn't have a meltdown.
Probably 8.
Important to note the question is disappointing, not bad. 13 is far worse. But 8 followed 7, which like it or hate it was the biggest hit the FF franchise ever had, and it was huge at the time. 13 followed 12, which was well received but not a huge hit. Which itself followed 11, which was barely in anyone's mind. Some considered the franchise dead after X-2 and 11 came out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDGMU6sdVBE
>>339159364
Listing 3 as one of the best is just being contrarian at this point.
>>339159901
>FF8 tried to clean the weird stuff up
>a witch from the future is possessing people in the past
>a gigantic flying monolith pulls monsters down from the moon
>all time is compressed to a single point
>a wingled lion is manifested from someone's memories
>>339159426
My favorite thing about tactics is that I was pretty overwhelmed when I first started it, think it had too much going on and I was unsure of every decision I made
but eventually it clicks and you don't even have to think you just know exactly what you want to do and you manipulate that formerly overwhelming game's systems to work for you and it's the best feeling
the neat story is just a bonus
Neither it's 6 and 12 that are shitty disappointments.
>>339155274
8. that doesn't mean its bad though.
8's main flaw when it was released was 'its not 7-2!'
13 came after the critically mediocre 12, so the bar wasn't as high. 13 isn't really compared to other installments because there was such a long time gap
>>339160447
None of those are wacky and non-serious.
>>339160482
But XII was pretty well recieved critically?
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/final-fantasy-xii
>>339160482
XIII was a disappointment because it was so hyped and the expectations were set high /because/ XII wasn't received well
everyone had the mentality that this was going to be different, it's a new era of HD and the Cell and leading up to it's release it seemed like it would be great
and it wasn't
it was a huge disappointment
>>339160727
it wasn't when it came out. many of the meme arguments against it used today like 'it plays itself' and 'its too hard to follow the story' were serious criticisms back in 06
>>339160876
FF13 is what killed the hype gland in my heart. At best i let myself have cautious optimism, which at the moment only Civ 6 has
>>339160447
Ok, FF8 is a different flavor of weird, but most definitely not that flavor of weird where you are bathing together with a bunch of dudes.
>>339155274
I still haven't tried the following ff: 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12
what would be the best order to cover them? should i skip any of those?
to stay on topic, i really disliked 13, 13-2 and 13-3, but cannot compare them to 8 since i've never seen it
>>339160978
I was let down by XIII yet here I am again hype as fuck for XV
i can't help it
>>339157587
I was disappointed with FFVII
I owbed Die Hard Trilogy and Syphon Filter and a friend wanted to trade me games. I got FFVII and Bushido Blade from him and he got my games. Bushido Blade was cool, but FFVII bring my first JRPG left me disappointed as fuck. ATB system is boring as shit and some attacks took way to long animation wise. Not to mention the characters sounded retarded, especially Barret who has some made up dialect that I've never heard of.
>>339155274
7, it was 6 but stripped down then diluted for the masses.
>>339155274
Given the general age range of anons on /v/, was there anyone here who had expectations for a video game released in 1999?
>>339161036
Tactics is better than all those, play it if you haven't yet.
>>339155274
They're both shit, but if given an option, I'd rather play 8
>>339161330
I had expectations for Sonic Adventure since I hated Sonic 3D Blast
>>339155274
>riding the "FF8 was bad" bandwagon
When will this meme end and how dare you compare the slightly underwhelming 8 to downright garbage 13?
>>339161036
3: Not worth playing unless you want a harder version of 5
4: DS version is balls to the wall hard. FF4 is the best starter 2D FF imho. Its a simple story yet a memorable one. The music when Cecilturns into a Paladin still gives me chills
5: raw gameplay with a saturday morning cartoon story
6: argued as the best one by many. do not expect a challenge if you have ever played a JRPG before. still worth playing because of many memorable moments and characters, especially Kefka
8: the black sheep of the PS1 trio. play nothing like 7. its also the easiest or the among the hardest FFs depending on how well you can break it
9: 9 is a fanservice game. don't play it till after you've played the previous installments
12: if you liked tactics story, you'll love 12's. satisfying to play as both a casual just for main story and ultra grindan adventure for its super boss, the notorious yiazmat
>>339161386
should i emulate the original for playstation or try the war of the lions port on my phone?
>>339161535
And to think there are Sonic 3D Blast apologists.
>>339155274
Neither, I actually enjoyed them both because I'm not a bitter faggot who has to be pissed off 24/7.
>>339161561
>>riding the "FF8 was bad" bandwagon
Let them be. Do you really want a rmk of VIII made by neo-square?
The VII is a fucking abomination, I rather not see a VIII remake.
>>339161675
3D Blast was cancer
Sonic Adventure was fun when it was released
>>339161617
time to tackle them then, thanks. I hope in the meantime they'll release a port of 12 for pc, the others are all easily obtainablealthough with 15 and 7 (1-2-3) on the horizon i don't see em having much time for a port
>>339161658
I'd recommend the patched PSP version but the emulator is fine, just don't play it on the phone.
>>339161735
but 8 deserves it more than 7 with the broken junction system
Plus Quistis in 1080p nigger what are you doing
>>339161617
>9 is a fanservice game. don't play it till after you've played the previous installments
which ones should I Play before playing 9
I'm about to play it
I've only ever played 6,7,8 and tactics
>>339155274
8 was gr8
>>339161704
Your choice of words make you seem both pissed and bitter.
>>339162062
>wanting more no turn based FF
just kill yourself anon. that way you will awake in Balamb.
>>339162070
1. the last 10% of the game is just FF1 reference after another.
not everyone can do the NES era JRPGs though, so i don't blame you if you don't want to
>>339162070
>which ones should I Play before playing 9
1 and 4, for sure.
>>339155625
i meant 9
>>339155274
13. I fucking loved 8. 13 made pretty much everyone I knew who liked FF to stop liking it.
>>339155274
VIII is underapreciated; is the best Final Fantasy, you can say the story is too convulated but japanese literature is writtten that way about the concept and there is no need to be coherent,
>>339161561
>slightly underwhelming
When will the underage stop shitposting?
>>339162175
I was raised on the NES and still have it
it is no problem
what is the best version to play?
>>339157510
12 was a fucking great gamePort when?Vuck Fann
>>339161617
>if you liked tactics story, you'll love 12's
Don't you fucking lie to him, anon. That's just mean. 12 doesn't even have a story.
9 was the most disappointing.
8 was the last good in the series.
>>339162167
Sweet, sweet release.
>>339161658
I'd consider emulating the original, but with a War of the Lions patch.
It'll fix the translation and re-balance a lot of the more useless jobs/classes/abilities.
>>339162417
the psp remake i think. but i wholeheartedly recommend an emulator on whatever version you pick, as even in its later versions its slow as fuck
>>339162579
>you will never experience teenage romance
>>339155274
8. Expectations were huge after 7, not so much after 8, X-2, and 12. People got broken in to the idea of bad FF games.
And holy fucking shit, fuck these new multi-challenge Captchas.
>>339162523
12 is about the ethical dilemmas of non-democratic rule.
>>339157152
thank you for voicing the correct opinion
12 is one of the most disappointing games i've ever played. it disgusts me that so many people consider it "underrated" now
went from a franchise that was one of the standards of traditional jrpgs to a boring grindfest with trash combat
>but muh beautiful world
yeah. doesn't matter if the game isn't fun
>>339162415
What are you insinuating? Are you impliciting that I, of all people, am underage even though I'm 30 years old and have been on 4chan since summer of 2007? MOI? UNDERAGE? Surely you zist.
I like you you meme loving fucker. You got spine. it's not every day that a random memer has the balls to talk shit to me. You can go now. Come on, get out. I'm sparing your pubecent derrière. Consider it a gift from the Once and Future Queen of 4chan.
>>339161704
Post moar XI art
>>339162825
>And holy fucking shit, fuck these new multi-challenge Captchas
settings
quotes and replying
tick on "legacy captchas"
save and refresh
and remember to re do it all over everytime you delete your internet history and cookies and shit
>>339163068
> but muh beautiful world
Nah, people just jerk it to Balthier and shitty pretentious dialogue.
Does anyone else like Eyes on me? I thought the lyrics were dull but the composition was emotionally provoking
>>339163068
1-9 have trash combat.
XII has flawed combat.
>>339162719
Romance is romance. I'm just happy to experience life as it is
>>339163417
>using legacy captchas
>you need to click over 50 signboard until you find simple numbers
ITT: FF8 tards pretending their game is fun and balanced.
>>339155274
8 was good tho. 13 is bad.
8 has a unique battle system, no chibi models, best side card game, and the most amazing music of all FFs. it doesn't desrve the hate it gets.
>>339163306
delicious pasta
seconds please
>>339163349
I mostly just have BST stuff... that and bald hume.
>>339163587
it's usually 1 to 3 tries. 80% of the time i get numbers imediately. Like in this very post for example
>>339156981
>it's widely know that it out sold 7
bait?
>>339163592
>Cock suckers whos first FF was 12 judging others for enjoying a legit good FF game
>>339163913
>>Cock suckers whos first FF was 7 judging others for enjoying a legit good FF game
FTFY
>>339163891
is this graph accurate?
>>339155274
Gotta go with 13. The combat system is embarrassingly linear and narrow until you hit Gran Pulse, and the world is exactly the same. Out of the entire cast, only Sazh comes across as remotely relatable. 8's not perfect, but there was a hell of a lot more game in the video game.
>>339155274
8
When played 8 I was expecting a good game and get shit
With 13 I was expecting shit since beginning
>>339164112
yes.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Best_selling_Square-Enix_games
>>339163592
It's not balanced, it can be broken, but it's not a stretch to assume the large majority of players didn't realize that as they were playing it.
Also jrpg is not something you play for the gameplay. The gameplay is generally bad. It's a rare day when one jrpg has good gameplay. It all comes down to whether you liked the story or not, and while looking back on it it looks childish and stupid, the reality is so was FF7's and 9s and pretty much the story of all other games in the series. Sure quality varies, some are a lot better than others, but people give FF8 a lot of shit and then the same people go on to praise other entries in the series that are just as bad.
>>339156460
He did his job, then went above and beyond his contract several times in pursuit of the mission.
>>339163674
Post Bst. Hnnngg
>>339164291
No, this is fucking stupid. No JRPG has ever had a good story.
>>339156460
Because he was a qt
>>339155274
8 was largely a disappointment at the time only because people wanted more of 7. It has plenty of glaring flaws but the game does not seem anywhere as divisive as 13. Seemingly everyone hates 13 other than the handful that love it, almost nobody thinks it was just OK like plenty of people do with 8. I think 13 disappointed way more.
>>339164403
>>339155274
The bigger question would be which Final Fantasy game in general wasn't disappointing/
>>339164664
>divisive as 13. Seemingly everyone hates 13
then it's not divisive
>>339164736
>you'll never have a qt wild Mithra hold you down and try to tame your trouser snake
>>339164876
Holy fuck I forgot about Weebl and Bob
>>339163913
Nigga I started with 3/6.
But FF8's system was broken, either making you underpowered forcing you to depend on GMS, or overpowered after you farmed a shitton to boost your stats.
>>339155274
8, literally everyone expected another 7.
hating 13 is a meme and you're underage if you believe it's the worst when 2 and 8 exist.
>>339164291
Exactly this. People these days act as if FF8 is somehow broken and don't realise that nobody fucking knew how to cheat that system it back in the day. I didn't and I really enjoyed the game. Just because it's possible to break it doesn't mean you have to.
>>339164775
The first one played will statistically be considered the least disappointing by any specific Anon. It's very hard to be objective if said game introduced you and kept you inside the genre
For example my first was FFX, when i was 13-15 yo. I'm perfectly aware it's far from perfect and i get why who dislike it chose to do so, but at the same time will always be my favourite FF, despite not being the best at all
>>339155274
VIII by a country mile.
VIII was following on the success of VII, and then it gave us a shitty love story featuring magic amnesia and time travel bullshit for the plot, with gameplay which both required grinding (to draw spells) and discouraged grinding entirely (thanks to a shitty implementation of level scaling). The only fun aspect of the game was doing JUST enough power-leveling to get the Junctions to stat-link what you needed and then force-fucking the game in half with basic attacks.
Final Fantasy XIII was boring, but XII was a hot mess of a faux-MMO anyway. I didn't expect much going into FFXIII and while the first ten to twelve hours were stupid and boring as shit, at least I could turn my brain off and watch the pretty stuff.
>>339164291
At the same point the people defending FF8 are the same.
Its not like theres value in defend a game, especially with so many flaws, it's not like there will be an FF8 sequel.
13. At least 8 is a real final fantasy game.
FF: Lightning's Adventure is the prime example of how to do literally every single thing wrong with the series.
>>339155274
VIII was kinda boring to me even when I was a kid, drawing sucked and it got lame when it became the squall and rinoa show
I didn't expect anything from XIII because X-2 and XII already made me lose faith in the franchise, so it didn't shock me when it turned out to be garbage
>>339165345
![[ffforever.info]_ffxi_fanart_05.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yVAh4NV.jpg "[ffforever.info]_ffxi_fanart_05.jpg")
>>339165112
Except the point is I WAS playing it back in the days and it was broken for me.
Because of the shitty as hell tutorial I didn't realize you could draw magic from enemies.
My first time, when I was 12, I ALMOST finished the entire game using ONLY magic I collected from the map and sometimes card. And almost no money too because I didn't know how to upgrade my pay.
How? Well by spamming GMS. All fucking bosses were me using GF and GF and GF and them tanking my shit.
Also getting diabolo early for the no encounter as fast as possible. Which unknowingly helped me thanks to their bonky leveling system.
It was a painful experience. The only boss not beatable this way was the final boss, and that's when I learned about the bullshit island.
>>339165456
Just because you were a dipshit doesn't mean the game was bad
>>339164112
That's a bit of a surprise. I was always under the impression that VI somewhat underperformed in Japan compared to IV and V.
>>339165552
But it is. It pretty much tells you that the game requires you to farm to advance normally. Something the previous game didn't need you to do should you balance your equipment and materia correctly.
>>339155905
the ultimate shit tier
>>339164291
>>339165112
Gonna call bullshit on this one. Even if you don't realize that the level-scaling is in place, it's very easy to see that linking your attack stat to your heaviest spell is broken as fuck.
On top of that, Diablos is a pretty early Guardian Force to obtain, and one of the first things I did when I got him was grind out Enc-None.
Even on my first playthrough as a young teenager, I went through the game with Squall wearing Diablos and Ifrit, using Str-J and Darkside to just hammer the shit out of bosses.
I figured: "Hey, I'll ride this train 'til I have to grind up my levels".
Then the fucking game ENDED.
>>339165585
FF6 was the first time the series was going to die. little do they know that FF7 killed it, 8 killed it, 10 killed it, 11 killed it, 12 killed it, 13 killed it, 14 killed it twice, and 15 will once again kill the series
>>339165456
>Because of the shitty as hell tutorial I didn't realize you could draw magic from enemies.
While trying to argue the game isn't broken is would require complete lies, this was mostly you just being a dumbass kid. The game came out in an era when most games didn't even have tutorials, there was a manual that explained all that shit.
>>339165552
He's a dipshit, but regardless of how retarded he is, the game is still bad.
>>339165697
Killed it in a good way?
>>339165456
>this is the average SeeD rank
At least 8 had an amazing soundtrack and aesthetic looking places. Where it falls short is the story. XIII just had pretty cut-scenes and good character models.
>>339165870
much of the doomsaying you see about 15 was also said about 6. 'the end of the fantasy' because of the setting change, etc
>>339165456
Why do you capitalize words like you're on Reddit
>>339155274
Why do people in here crap on this game?
The story is better than in VII, it even has better graphics.
I will admit that the magic in the game is retarded, but the junctioning system is fun.
>>339161704
>Being THIS incapable of critically examining an experience
You know, I'm not going to deny that I finished FFVIII, but that doesn't stop me from looking at things when I'm done and realizing I ate a bucket of shit instead of pudding.
8 has triple triad, '13 sucks' is a meme, and I still don't get you guys who hate 9 for no discernable reason.
>>339166042
The game is a broken mess.
If you can't completely break it with just Diablos and Ifrit, you're a retard, and the game hands you both very, very early in the game.
The story requires a magic amnesia fuck you that's not alluded to or foreshadowed in any concrete way until it's revealed, and fucking Twilight is a better love story than Squall and Rinoa.
By the end of the game, your conflict is with a magic time witch out of fucking nowhere, pissing away the dramatic tension of at least Rinoa and Edea, who you're supposed to care about, being the villains.
Lufia 1 did Final Fantasy VIII's story ten times better on the SNES, because it at least had the balls not to fob off the drama to some nobody character at the last second.
I kind of wish more RPG games were like FF8.
>no retarded shit like monsters dropping gold
>game get harder as you level up
>multiples ways to defeat enemies that are not only spam magic/auto attacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFW_zaXFzcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ3dHippPSA
FF8 is amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GlT4A5f7mU
Dat Galbadian missile base theme god damn so fucking smooth.
Neither obviously
Hating VIII is a meme because of "muh Spoony review"
Hating XIII is a meme because "muh linearity"
>>339163445
The American one is trash.
>>339166428
the details on the amnesia caused by GF's is literally in the first room you can move in on disc 1. on the pc.
3deep5you huh.
>>339167325
>The American one is trash.
I always thought the original song was in english, because Faye Wong is the singer.
>>339166428
>The story requires a magic amnesia fuck you that's not alluded to or foreshadowed in any concrete way
FF8 haters proving their opinions are fueled by memes. There are so many npcs that bring up memory loss and not to mention at the very beginning of the game, one of the first things you can do in the game is check your PC and read on GFs where it says "may cause memory loss"
Hating on the masterpiece that is FF8 is a meme spawned by this cuck right here.
>>339166520
The last remnant has a system where if you grind, the game gets impossible
At least that's what I've read about it, haven't played it yet
>>339167767
I kinda wish someone would make a popular review of VI in this style to further fuck with the fanbase.
>>339167937
yes. at the end of every battle you have a counter that rises. The higher the counter, the stronger the monsters you fight
to solve this you have two options:
1- the first is playing the game like it "shoud", which means chosing your fights and/or avoiding them. Infact the counter does not always rise equally. Depending on what you fight and how you fight it, at the end of the battle it will rise more or less. Thsi to promote a sort of "smart grinding"
2- the second option is to use cheat engine and simply lower the counter (or make it higher) whenever you feel like it
I did this on a second playthrough and it was kinda fun
The game overall it's pretty neat and has some huge features that gets overshadowed often in AAA shit "rpg" titles. If you wanna try it out i strongly advise using a guide because there are tons of missables
>>339155274
How the fuck is it that there's a thread involving 13 and nobody's posted a single picture of the goddess yet?
>>339155274
VIII was only disappointing to VII babbies and retards who didn't understand the time loop. XIII, while not as bad as people make it out to be, was hugely disappointing to pretty much everyone because it didn't do any of the things people wanted.
>>339160447
Cow abducting aliens
>>339167606
The amnesia twist is overblown because people don't get it. When Squall thinks about his past, he always focuses on his memories of Ellone and the loneliness he felt after she left the orphanage. This obsession buried happier memories that he might have had. Squall's arc in the first two discs revolves around recovering from this state as he finds new friends and eventually meets Ellone again. Consider Squall's reaction in the basketball court scene. He doesn't act shocked and yell "Oh, how could I forget? This changes everything!" He rather casually confirms what the others brought up. It's not that Squall suddenly remembers it all when he previously didn't, it's that he can finally admit it to himself and move on.
Regardless of what your opinion on FFVIII is, everyone has got to agree that it has the most dope soundtrack in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v6BtJaBQmo
>>339159364
>X
Kek only good thing was blitzball
>>339169914
The problem of 8 is that it tried to have asubtle style of narration. Where things are shown or only vaguely implied instead of being shoveled in your face.
To this day, I still say that Squall has to be the most misunderstood character I've ever seen. And it's insane, because you can read Squall's thoughts, his arc is really well defined. Fuck, we could argue Squall is the only truly well characterized character in the entire game and people still just think he's an emo fuck.Even his relationship with Rinoa was spot on. The entire point of Squall is that he knows that the worst part of having friends and people you care for is having them go away. Him taking Rinoa to Esthar was fucking amazing and his growth as a character really surprised me
>>339170418
I agree, but I think it's an hard tie between 8 and 9. Uematsu was on steroids.
Time for best track though:
https://youtu.be/u3PQHM9UnX4
>>339171168
I'm the poster you're quoting and I wouldn't call VIII subtle. If anything people are just lazy.
>>339170418
you are objectivelycorrect. at least its the best in FF8
>>339155274
>FFVIII
Shit magic system
>FFXIII
Shit characters
Shit story
Shit combat system
>>339174182
>FFVIII
Not
>Shit characters
>Shit story
Oh come on
FF9 was better than both 13 and 8 and is vastly underrated because it came all the way at the end of the PSX cycle.
>>339175671
its not underrated. mechanically its a piece of garbage. its a gorgeous looking game with many good character and a wonderful setting with a meh soundtrack compared to the two FF around it
>>339168658
What fanbase?
>>339175671
That game was way too easy. I'm pretty sure it was literally made for children.
>>339155274
13, 10 and 9
>>339178227
How can you love 8 and be disappointed in 10?
It's literally the same shit but 10 has better story, gameplay, characters and music
>>339178473
>has better story, gameplay, characters and music
HA HA HA HA HA
>>339178473
>How can you love 8 and be disappointed in 10?
voice acting... voice acting ruined FF10.
>>339178735
>>339178758
Sure proved him wrong with those amazing insights
>>339179758
Fuck off, Tidus.
>>339178227
>>339178735
>>339178758
>thread about 13 vs 8
>still makes it about 10
stay mad fucking retard, 10 was a huge success no matter how hard you try
>>339156183
>except for the likely big launch of FF XV coming up
>dat long wall of txt
Hey FFXV-kun!
>>339181094
It's also a shit game.
>>339181161
Not that guy but how is he wrong?
>>339178473
>How can you love 8 and be disappointed in 10?
>It's literally the same shit but 10 has better story, gameplay, characters and music
By disagreeing with each of those points vehemently.
8 had a stupid pants on head retarded story, but it was unique and kept you playing. 13 just plain sucked
