"Working as intended" is once again bullshit
>inb4 REDDIT REEEEE
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4ld6yc/partially_disproving_the_current_prevailing/
REDDIT REEEEE
>linking to plebbit
Just fucking go play the other games already. They're not going to give you poise back.
Poise is not ADP
Armor still useless
>>339145376
Stop being a crybaby and learn to hyper armor
>>339145376
whats the point ?
i enjoy not having poise in the game
You only need poise if you plan on getting hit pleb.
Git gud
Sou you want to go back to unstaggerable casters sitting in a corner chuggeing estus and throwing magic missiles at you?
No, thanks!
I don't even care about poise, I just want heavy armor to be at least sort of worth the stat investment it takes to wear it literally only because there is some cool-looking heavy armor that I want to wear
>>339145985
This. Heavy armor should give more protection or have some unique properties depending on the armor.
>>339145985
Exactly. Either enable poise or get rid of armor weight.
>>339145376
There is (was) one simple way to fix poise, adding an additional poise bar similar to the stamina bar. The bar would represent the amount of poise, getting hit decreases the bar and you get stagger when it reaches zero, so instead of having infinite poise when you reach a certain point it works so you can resist a small number of hits without getting staggered. The bar fills quickly when is near zero so you can relatively quickly resist at least 1 hit with high poise, but it fills slower after that meaning you have to wait a lot longer to be able to resist more than 1 hit without getting staggered. Also the amount of poise decreased when hitting someone could be calculated with the weapon stability, meaning shield bash can easily stagger people.
>>339145376
The Souls subreddits are actually pretty good. The Bloodborne one in particular has some really interesting stuff on it.
>>339145454
This.
>>339145871
That wouldn't happen in DaS3.
Casters already need a ridiculous amounts of INT to be viable, they can't afford any points in Vitality to wear heavy armour. Plus max poise in DaS3 (if you turn it on with Cheat Engine) is much less effective than DaS1, in that game you could BECOME UNSTOPPABLE, but in DaS3 you would only be able to withstand 1-2 hits before being staggered, and the stat investment is much higher.
>>339145871
Literally never happened. At least not in the only relevant game for PvP ie Dark Souls 1.
>>339146692
That's pretty much exactly how it worked......
Except the bar was invisible, every weapon had a hidden "poise damage" stat (DaS3 has this as well) which damaged the bar, when it hit 0 you staggered, and then it came back.
How it regenerated varied between games. I know in Bloodborne enemy poise (since you had none) instantly returned to full after 4 seconds of not being hit, or Immidetly after finishing thier stagger animation. I think DaS1 player poise worked similar, but 2 worked differently I believe.
>>339146692
>so instead of having infinite poise when you reach a certain point
You have no idea what you're talking about. There was never "infinite poise", you goddamn moron.
Poise used to work with breakpoints.
For example, you had to have at least 53 poise in the first game to be able to tank a full hit of a 2h r1 greatsword. If you had less than that, you could get chain-stunned and hit over and over without being able to do shit until the other dude depleted his stamina bar because of how stupidly fast the weapon could swing.
>>339147159
In DS1, poise regenerated like stamina did, after a second or two or not getting hit/blocking a hit, it would start to come back until it hits your max poise again. It wasn't instant, but it was fast, at least that's what I remember, and spot on for the rest
>>339146791
Yeah, /r/Bloodborne is actually really good. Everyone is nice and civil, lots of good research done into mechanics and shit, interesting lore posts etc... So is /bbg/ on /vg/, but most of "groundbreaking" souls stuff happens on reddit now rather than 4chan. It's where all the poise testing and stuff is being done and where almost all the lore stuff for Bloodborne was discussed (really that one guys 100pg essay, but he posted it there).
I honestly and truly believe that DaS1 coming to PC killed the community on 4chan, it's survived elsewhere.
Discussing Bloodborne (when free from shitposting from both sides) feels much more like DeS and DaS1 pre-PC days. Smaller, more comfy, no data-mining all the secrets etc...
>>339145871
Or you just finally learn how to fucking balance every mechanic of your game after yourmade the same game 4 times
>>339147772
Then stay there and don't come back.
>>339147772
Bloodborne reddit is comfy
>>339147946
i actually laughed out loud or as you kids say I "fucking kekd"
>>339147946
t. 19yr old who just discovered 4chan
>>339148097
Keep the memeposting on plebbit, moron.
Anyone who expects polished combat mechanics from a studio that can't even get basic pathfinding right is a fuckwit.
>>339147946
So was he modded or are you guys pvping at SL 500?
when i first read this overly complex autistic ass theory about iframes changing in the midst of action i was like "theres absolutely no way those fucking japs would code that"
and of course it turned out to be true. common sense. a system like that requires a ton of investment in code for an effect that players cant even notice or determine whatsoever? riiiiiight...
>>339145516
Le hyper armor hehe c:
Fuck off with that retarded meme already you fucking underage. Its a retarded concept and it doesn't even work properly either.
>>339145516
Stop repeating what reddit or 4chan tells you and learn that hyper armor and poise are not the same thing and won't make up for each other
>>339148774
>it doesn't even work properly either.
What does in Souls games?
>>339148393
reverse image search turned up nothing
>>339148998
Nothing. From are some of the most incompetent devs around.
>use preserverance or other magic to get poise
>proceed to wreck shitters who don't realize poise still exists in some forms
>>339145454
>Souls discussions on reddit
>applying the scientific method to develop a deeper understanding of game mechanics and sharing your findings for all to scrutinize
>Souls discussions on /v/
>just cuck my shit up baka desu senpai REEE B-TEAM
>>339149028
Roger that
>>339149135
How long does that last?
>>339149283
Reddit would apply the scientific method to a dog turd on a street and somehow conclude it's a metaphor for the oppression of blacks or something.
Then again, blowing shit out of proportion is more or less Soulsdrones' modus operandi, so who the fuck knows what happens over in /dsg/.
>>339147946
>le reddit boogeyman
Already called it bullshit the first time around.
FROM are retarded for not being able to balance the poise and just do the easy way out of turning it off, but they are not retarded enough to do these kind of convulated calculation.
FROM stat is hidden, but all of them is pretty straightforward on the way it work and calculated..
>>339148609
What? Pretty sure this .gif is SL120 PvP.
>>339145376
Why not ditching vitality and weight altogether
>>339150003
Preaching to the choir
>>339150136
So people are waiting until all tests are done so they can start a petition?
>>339150456
There's already one on change.org
>>339145376
the future you chose
#sadhavel
>>339145376
Can you at least compare equipped armor stats to vendor items now ?
Poise works as intended. You guys are just idiots and stupid because you expect it to work like in Dark Souls One
Who cares if poise doesn't work?
It doesn't effect the game in any shape or form.
People are still beating the game easily, and PVP is stillfun.
Is this just another DS2 Durability Bug problem, where it literally didn't matter but people acted like it was the end of the world?
>>339152919
Explain what it does
>>339154024
it increases your poise value
>>339154024
the higher your poise is, the higher the number shown under "poise" in the character menu is
>>339149505
>>339145454
>>339145407
You faggots who bitch about reddit don't seem to actually know what the site is like, or if you do, then why do you know how the site is? That would imply you go there.
>>339154384
it will reflect this by saving the integer value as a higher integer on your character stats sheet
From is literally worse than any AAA dev.
>>339150003
Do you people not realize the effect of defense in this game ? Are we even playing the same game ?
>>339154534
how does it reflect on mere gameplay?
>>339146692
>The bar would represent the amount of poise, getting hit decreases the bar and you get stagger when it reaches zero, so instead of having infinite poise when you reach a certain point it works so you can resist a small number of hits without getting staggered.
Um, isn't this what shielding already does with the Stamina gauge??
>le read-it
No thanks!
>>339156303
https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan
>>339145454
>>339146847
>muh special snowflake club
You faggots are as new as you could get
>>339157743
the sad thing is they really think there is any difference between mainstream 4chan and reddit
>>339149283
>Reddit discussion of a game
>anything more than circlejerking and fan art
>>339154580
They're terrible, but not the worst.
If they introduce microtransactions to buy more humanity or make all boss weapons require 'platinum' to create, then I'll change my mind.
>>339154752
That's the joke.jpg
>>339156303
>>le read-it
Whew lad. Whew.
>>339145376
test
>>339150003
Why not just play Bloodborne in that case?
>>339154580
>Literally
You are objectively wrong
>>339154717
Defense literally has no effect
>>339153525
>r1 spam: the meta
>fun
just wait for the dark souls III jew more on the new consoles edition
>>339145871
>Casters
>Vit
An INT build needs at least 54 INT and 30 ATT to be viable. The only decent INT weapon is the Crystal Sage Rapier, so that's 13 STR and 18 DEX. That leaves you with 29 levels to hit the maximum SL for the 80-99 meta. Since you have to use 2 items that inflict double damage, you'll need some VIG, 27 is the usual go to amount. You'll need END to cast the spells, which means there goes your last 20 levels.
The most optimized INT build can't put a single point into VIT. They'll have a 47 equip load. The weapons/staffs and rings take up 10 points of that 47. At best, they could equip 3 pieces of the elite knight set (but the head needs the Crown of Dusk.) They'd have little poise.
>>339145516
hyper armor is useless against anybody with half a brain, who will just wait for a swing and then hit you during the MASSIVE gaps between attacks.
>>339149135
>swing at opponent
>he uses perseverance
>I roll away before he can do anything
> ez damage
