This is a picture of Chris Roberts from his current vacation in Monaco on a private boat.
The game is never coming out lel
113,000,000 dollars from autists Gone
TOP KEK, if you funded star citizen, find a fucking rope and hang your worthless meatbag self.
$18,000 on a custom sliding door for their office
I'm glad I didn't buy this game.
But I still want it to succeed because its success would mean that big budget PC exclusive games are lucrative.
I expect the worst out of this game by this point, but at least I find solace in the fact that there are many games in my backlog anyways.
>>339128739
>>339128924
Whats that supposed to say? He can do with his money wtf he wants. You neckbeards act like he's supposed to live in a shack in the woods and put all the money into the game development.
Literally grow up.
Reminder that Mark Skelton just left CIG
I hope when this "game" goes tits up it'll take crowdfunding with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnO1sGjfJ_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJZbPI5nKE
>People fell for it.
>People will continue to fall for it.
Even that fucking shilled game No Man's Sky is coming out this year. Sure it just got delayed but it's still coming out a few months later.
>>339128739
If you did not fund it then why are you so angry bro.
>Elite Dongerous fuckboi confirmed
>>339129756
I know you're retarded but bear with me. people give money to fund the development of the game, therefore it should be used to develop the game. It's not the guy's money, it's the investors'. Using it for anything other than that is is straight up mishandling of funds
>>339128739
You're just mad that I will have all the exclusive backer ships while you use the shitty normal ones.
Did not support it. This is one of those games where i stay far away until its released with reviews out.
>>339130383
>investors
kek, they're "donators". Investors imply they could sue for mismanagement of funds.
>>339130383
>It's not the guy's money, it's the investors'. Using it for anything other than that is is straight up mishandling of funds
>investors
>mishandling of funds
LMAO, and I'm the retarded one? Do you fags even read the TOS when """""providing funds"""""?
Literallygrow up.Or at least learn how the big boy world and business works kiddo :^)
>>339130749
>>339129756
he can use the money how he pleases, but it is immoral and doesn't make him less of a conman
>>339130383
Oh boy.
Learn how investment works. In the real business world an investor receives a stake in the business by giving them capital.
The money you retards gave him is his now, not yours. He can do whatever the fuck he wants with it. It's not immoral and it doesn't make him a conman, this wouldn't be happening if today's teenagers and young adults weren't complete fucking morons.
I don't think Chris or anyone at CIG management is trying to scam anyone. They're just grossly incompetent and Chris' is making the classic western developer mistake of trying to pander to everyone.
>>339130749
>>339131374
Regardless of the semantics you want to use, he was given funds in hopes they would be used to make a game. They are not being used to make a game.
You can use whatever legal jargon you wish, he is not doing what he got money to do.
Semantics aren't a good enough excuse.
>>339131418
100,000,000 is a shit ton of money to deal with. If they didn't hire an outside firm to help them deal with the development they are obviously going to fuck it up.
Although I kind of believe they're just being retarded and blowing the money. Most games don't cost near that much outside of advertising budget, I don't see why this game would need it.
>>339131546
Don't think anyone is excusing him, just a friendly remind that if you pay into this shit, this is what you should expect as a result.
There was a good reason they didn't get the money from real investors, they don't have a history of being able to manage money.
>>339129756
>>339130749
Post-purchase rationalization
>>339131959
True enough, but that doesn't mean they can't be angry about it.
Sad as it is, trust is a hard thing to come by, and those that will try to live up to it even harder.
>>339128739
Is that a mexican flag?
>>339128739
While I would definitely ask for a refund if I had backed you have to remember they also have other investors (real investors). Never ever confuse the term donator to investor, nor ever misuse the word invest (you don't "invest" when you buy a fucking videogame).
So you could easily make the case that the money doesn't really come from the kickstarter funds but from the investor's.
>>339132224
>(you don't "invest" when you buy a fucking videogame)
You do if you buy them to sell them :^)
>>339130749
Your post makes me want to hit a wall.
Cut down on all that shitposting.
>>339128739
How does anybody justify them spending so many millions on overpriced voice actors and motion capture?
No one gives a shit about superficial crap like that, its like they just wasted all their money on whatever they could do to make hype trailers with no substance
But they keep working on the game and have made it way farther than i ever expected, as if it isnt a scam, while wasting money on tons of dumb shit
>>339128924
Perfect example, see, this isnt really greed or evidence of a scam, just stupidity, what in the actual fuck?
>>339132667
i mean i guess if that means they got the funding to make it as far as they have... that was a good idea actually
isnt that the point of overwatch and the skins, so they get more money to make free DLC?
I have no idea why you would hate on this game.
Like what, did you missed the chance to buy THE ship you wanted?
Is this the same people who cry they didn't get rare hats and gun skins?
Are you really that much of a baby?
>>339132554
>You
>The average schmuck.
>Buying games to sell them
>Making profit
LMAO, NICE INVESTMENT CHUMUROO!
>>339130749
>>339129756
>hey bro can I have 5 bucks for food
>okay here you go
>wait why the fuck did you buy alcohol
>GROW UP SHITLORD
you will never get your money back
>people actually defending having their money used for luxury
ONLY ON /v/
>>339128739
>Star Citizen
The Peekek Dream
>>339132973
>>hey bro can I have 5 bucks for food
>>okay here you go
>>wait why the fuck did you buy alcohol
>>GROW UP SHITLORD
>you will never get your money back
You weren't going to get your money back in the first place.
L M A O?
>>339128739
>2.4 ptu is out
>absolutely no indication as to how to actually play it
why
is it invite only?
>>339133034
What the fuck is that kind of fucking logic?
You must be the kind of dumb bitch who goes on anti capitalist protest and record it with your iphone.
You cock gobbling whore.
Why do you fucks act like you wouldn't do the same
>>339132097
Could be the italian ensign.
>>339133079
No anon, I'm telling the people defending their scam they aren't getting the money back and that they should just realize it
>>339133110
Anon, you know how games like Shantae and Yooka Layle USE the donator money for what the donators intented?
and not spend it on their own shit not related to the game?
I'm not a Sanders supporter, I just don't support theives
Hell this thread is filled with shitposters anyway so whatever
>>339132973
>being a naive retard and giving someone your money
lol kid
>>339128739
>you will live to see the raging shitstorm and denial once this finally falls on its ass
It's a scam, but what's up with the u mad-tier trolling itt?
>>339133329
>(You)
>Living in the next year.
Anon, I...
>>339128739
>>339128924
Hopefully this doesn't turn into another Spacebase DF-9
>>339133283
it costs like $40 to play, and the dogfighing specific part of it runs at 60fps 1080p almost perfectly on my mediumish rig on medium settings and has more nuances in actual space combat and the physics behind it than any other game ever made im pretty sure, and is more fun than a lot of AAA games that launch for $60
I already got my money back by playing a hundred hours and loving it
>>339132951
>>The average schmuck.
Reported for hurting my feelings
>>339133457
>Doesn't understand the non-meme use of the word "you"
Anon, get medical help. Or a sturdy rope.
>people pay money for something the "developer" has no requirement to complete and is in no way compelled to refund their "donations" should the product fail to come to fruition
I didn't back it but i probably will buy it when/ifit gets released because i'm gay for space.
>>339133516
The joke was that you are going to kill yourself next year. Hope it's sooner though.
>>339133079
>>339132973
its more like he went and bought a little food and a little alcohol and another card board sign to write something to beg for more money so he wouldnt die
considering they blow a bit on personal things, a bit on things that are superficial and generate hype and more money, and a bit on actually making a half decent dogfighting space game, at least
>S-scam citizen will come out
>>339133498
>I've prepaid for a luxury dinner with quality ingridients and a 5 stars chef on it
>But this pizza is still the best thing I've ever tasted and filled my stomach just as well, I have no reasons to complain !
>you didn't backed this game
feels good
>>339133637
$18K for a door or however much for expensive vacations aren't a "bit"
game is literally a cult of personality and its members will defend it right up until they swallow the kool aid.
>>339133531
i dont care, this industry is shit and isnt going to do anything like this anyway, im hoping at worst this games code will be stolen and repurposed into something else cool, if not at least it sends a message to everyone that we're really tired of the same stupid scripted FPS bullshit and there is some money to be made elsewhere
>>339133892
The most ironic thing is that if he'd just completed and made the game, he'd probably be rolling in the same amount of cash, if not more.
>>339133498
>Pay complete luxury car
>get the ashtray of the car
>I never had such enjoyment with a car!
>>339133889
>>339133484
I'll never understand how more people weren't pissed about DF-9.
>>339129756
I know youre a mong, but ppl gave how money to make a game, not to buy boats and 18k doors
>>339134032
No, no he wouldnt. The majority of people who would buy the game already funded it. I doubt the sales themselves would bring in 110 million.
What he did is way smarter if he wanted to get rich. I mean fuck, he could hav epocketed half, give the rest to the team and tell them to do whatever they want with it.
And he is set for generations.
>>339134073
I wish it would that way anon.
>>339133498
You're game isn't bro
Just accept it and get in the same boat as MN9 faggots
>>339133714
the dogfighting alone is literally already a better and more fleshed out game than most AAA games coming out today in my opinion, but im sick of scripted FPSs because im probably a little older than you guys
That's how it'll end:
They'll deliver a minimally viable "product", which is:
>Arena Commander, instanced pvp module
>A single port, with "persistence", hence the persistent world
>Squadron 42, the fps module which is already sold seperately.
There's your 114+ million dollar crowdfunding project.
>>339134073
>Star Citizen community
>>339134339
It would need 5 and a half million in sales to recoup that, less so if its any more than 20 bucks.
Even then, that assumes he uses all the money on the game.
![1456272286837[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8SgXh8D.jpg "1456272286837[1].jpg")
>>339129756
>your face when
>ugly ships
>mouse+kb is better for flying
>"We don't have the tech yet"
>Silky smooth 10~20 fps server side
>CEO can't even fucking play its own game
>CEO keeps promising literally EVERYTHING
>latest addition to the game: pay to respawn ship faster / buying cloth
Not a scam, just a buch of retarded and screwed fools.
>>339133498
>it runs at 60 fps so its a good game
I regret buying a PC
>>339133498
>>339134450
>I'm a PCuck disgruntled that the status quo has shifted to consoles: the post
>>339134035
its literally 50 gigabytes of nothing, ships dont explode into hundreds of pieces that bounce off each other beautifully in zero-G, there isnt already a working ship that fires missles that are bigger than other entire ships, it isnt possible to walk around on deck of a ship while its being flown, take out your gun and shoot the pilot and take it from them, or have a copilot switch power from shield to engine or weapons
keep cryin consolefag bitch niggas
>>339134620
Just pcucks mad that all they get nowadays is console scraps and indieshit.
![2f7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CCjp7xd.jpg "2f7[1].jpg")
>>339134752
>keep cryin
>>339134761
Indieshit>Uninspired AAA garbage
>>339134910
refer to >>339134690
it's better to be AAA than C-, remember that, pcuck
who cares, people are already going to be heavily disadvantaged ingame due to the people who have the overpowered backer ships
literally why the fuck would you do this shit, to ensure your game only has a niche fanbase?
>>339133110
Anon, please calm down. Your doctor told you about these spasms. Take your pills.
>>339131045
You guys know his company pays himself a salary just like he pays the salary of all his employees. On top of that his net worth was already in the millions before star citizen.
>>339134952
Sure, if you like 99% of the game's budget to be spent on marketing. Have fun drinking that Koolaid.
>>339128739
Publishers geting the shits.
If that succeds there will be more projects like that.
Competion. Loss of income.
Hahaha fuck ea's of this world.
>>339134406
>u think ur having fun, but ur not
oh /v/
there are probably some good reasons to worry about this games creators intentions, i wouldnt know, i dont follow it that much, but in its current state, compared to most vidya, its pretty much already worth the money, at least to people who like space dog fighting
you can buy a cheap ship for $40 to play the game and earn credits by playing the dogfighter (arena commander) to rent bigger ships and guns and shields and everything
>>339133329
the ride will never end
in 2075 they will have convinced the backers that are still alive that they intend to build the whole thing irl for another 136billion
>>339135045
100% of your games budget is being spent on vanity shit :^)
Did you guys check the knew goat simulator update?
>>339132951
Bucaneer comes yesterday out.
Alrady ppl selling it for more on redit.
Remember. Every day a retard wakes up.
>>339128739
He makes money from advertising surely. Not that I've ever seen Star Citizen advertised.
>>339134752
>posti'ng a run-on sentence because the ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''game'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' lacks so much content its the only way to disguise it
>>339134971
because the idea is you can hire players to work for you
like in the real world, some people start off with more money than you because of their mommy and daddy, and it isnt fair, and you just have to suck it up and take their offer of a minimum wage job, right /v/?
lol
>>339135175
Do you honestly think AAA publishers aren't spending more money on themselves than the games they produce? Good goy.
Publishers are in the business of making money with as little start up capital as possible. If they could make a game for free and charge $60 for it, they would, and you'd buy it too you fucking idiot.
>>339135175
>vanity shit
>the most intricate physics ever seen in a space game
>>339134971
What op backer ships?
Everything the same.
Get your shit right son.
Why so much hate? Nobady liked your idee on the forums? You lost a argument on the internet?
>>339135371
There's no game anon. Wake up.
>>339135371
>the most intricate physics ever seen in a Youtube video
>>339135341
50% of a games bugget goes towards marketing. The other 50 go towards the game.
Now nobady knows witch of the 50 is responsibel for selling the game.
"Sink!" faggots are pure shitposter. Pay them no mind. On the other hand, if you bought into anything beyond the launch offering of the freelancer (and possibly even that), you are fucking dumb.
>/v/ is actually giving this faggot money
>>339135107
>rent ships
>rent
you got to be a literal retard to not see a problem with that
>>339135298
you got me, none of that actually exists because i didnt take the time to use proper grammar
>people actually gave money to this guy
>>339135341
>AAA publishers
see that's the point, they actually publish AAA games and people can buy those
star shitizen on the other hand won't publish anything, it won't be AAA and yet they are already embezzling the money, yet there are so many retard who give them money for free
general rule of thumb: as soon as you hear the name of a certain individual dev more often than the game, the game and everything around it is going to be shit
>>339132973
>>hey bro give me 5 bucks ill make a really great homemade pizza and we'll share it
>>okay here you go
>>wait why the fuck did you buy alcohol
>>GROW UP SHITLORD
ftfy
>>339128739
I have no idea everyone thinks it's his boat.
>>339135704
You shouldn't be the one posting the angry wojak meme
>>339135695
Whats wrong with renting digital goods?
You rent EXP boosts and Map skins in games like LoL or Dota
>>339128739
It's true.
Talked to some people who were working for star citizen and moved and people who work at studios near foundry 42, and their reputation is gone. It used to be a house full of great devs, but now after years of employee abuse and mismanagement, they have trouble hiring even juniors. Even seniors and talent is jumping ship like cray-z
This game will be released, but it propably won't be released in a playable state nor will it be good.
>>339135869
>Lol sorry dude I spent the money on gas 'cuz I had to take a detour to get past the traffic and wasn't going to have enough in the tank to make it back bro
>Maybe next time or when you give me some more money though haha
>>339135445
>get someones shield down
>severe off his wing, sending it and a dozen other pieces flying and bouncing off a nearby asteroid in an awe inspiring manner
>of course he lost his right gun along with it and now has less firepower
>"ITS NOT REAL, NONE OF ITS REAL, LALALA"
pic related
>>339135695
yes, rent ships, with credits you earn by playing the game
you earn credits reasonably fast, and each thing you rent lasts only 7 days, but it only counts each day that you actually log into the arena commander dogfighter, not even the free roam, PTU, so i still have stuff i rented weeks ago
stop making mountains out of molehills /v/
>>339135987
Anon you have to stop dreaming and writing your dreams into fanfiction
Learn to accept the reality bro
>>339128739
>people pay thousands out of their on pocket for the developer to make a game with possible hope of it being finished
>developer still sells ships for cash
honestly I'm envious of him, he scammed the fuck out of a bunch of morons and is now living the easy life.
![BIJOWUECMAIgUkU[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/10TIsLi.jpg "BIJOWUECMAIgUkU[1].jpg")
>>339135695
>literal retard
>>>/pol/
Renting EXP boosts is common, whats wrong with renting ships?
>>339133484
>>339134208
What hppened?
>>339135695
The rental system is specific to the arena mode, not the persistent online play. They did it for balance purposes, apparently.
>>339129756
Considering he's using money that was DONATED to him because he PROMISED to make a game, a game that will never happen, yes, he's supposed to live in a shack.
If he HAD made a GAME and used the money he got by MAKING A FUCKING GAME, he could spend it like he wanted. So far, he hasn't made any games.
But seriously, you're the reason why millenials and kickstarter are cancer.
x3 went on sale before so I played some of that. Is elite dangerous or x rebirth worth getting if I liked mount and blade in space? I know x rebirth only has one playable ship which really seems shitty.
>>339135987
he is right though. people didn't back SC in kickstarter just for some small scale pvp module, nor the fps module.
"At its core Star Citizen is a destination, not a one-off story. It's a complete universe where any number of adventures can take place, allowing players to decide their own game experience. Pick up jobs as a smuggler, pirate, merchant, bounty hunter, or enlist as a pilot, protecting the borders from outside threats. Chris Roberts has always wanted to create one cohesive universe that encompasses everything that made Wing Commander and Privateer / Freelancer special. A huge sandbox with a complex and deep lore allowing players to explore or play in whatever capacity they wish. That universe is Star Citizen."
That's from kickstarter page. In it's current state, it's a mockery of these goals.
>>339135987
>being too poor to buy star citizen
ohhh am i laffin
>>339135965
only addicts and retards play the games you have mentioned
you gotta be a huge retard to play any game with microtransactions
the only goal is to milk you retards while making sure the game is unbalanced unless you pay
>>339135987
>I like being forced to 'play' (work) at set times and interverals so I can pay again for something I can't keep, even though I already paid real money for it
you don't even notice how retarded it is that you are paying to work?
normal game: play it because it's fun, get the full experience whenever they want
your shit: play it because you need to earn (work for) credits so you can rent shit, always only get a small part of the experience interrupted by long farming sessions (which you call playing, even though they are not, because the player only thinks about how many battles left until he can rent another piece of shit)
>>339135956
the only reason not to buy the game at this point is because if you're against the principle of crowdfunding or dont like space, or dont have a gaming computer, or you dont wanna give money to someone who might not totally respect your wishes on how he should use it, which kinda goes back to the first reason
and thats just fine
but the game is well into being finished and its already pretty cool
>>339136042
i dont really have any expectations of the game, i didnt expect it to even get this far
just admit you dont wanna give your money to someone who wont make complete selfless use of it, or that you dont like space, or whatever, because the core of the game is fucking there and its great, theres nothing to be salty about
>>339136108
>renting exp boosts
only in shit games that are intentionally flawed to make you buy more shit for $$$
>>339133605
'(you)' is a gag people use when someone is fishing for responses. You used it completely out of context...
>>339136362
lol of course not, i never said they did
im just saying its well worth the entry price and already better than some AAA games
stay salty consolecucks/toasterposters
>>339136461
>your shit: play it because you need to earn (work for) credits so you can rent shit
i played the dogfighter mostly before that system was even implemented, and mostly play the PTU now
having more fun with overwatch than I ever will with this game desu and it uses similar business models with lower entry prices
>>339128739
What's the big deal with someone taking a vacation?
>>339136439
more like
>being too short sighted to invest in a gaming PC and/or have a good job
It was his birthday yesterday!
Also, he was already a millionaire after selling Digital Anvil to Microsoft.
>>339135965
You don't rent shit in Dota
>>339136648
star citizen is like $40
maybe $45
and ive played overwatch for less than 5 hours since release, but at least a hundred in star citizen, and like half of was it in the past few months because they optimized shit well in AC
>>339136723
>invest
>in a gaming PC
Glad I got my money back.
>>339128739
>>339130383
>>339131546
So what makes people think that it's the games money that he's using to do things like go on vacation?
Are you aware that he was already rich as fuck before Star Citizen was even a thing?
>>339136868
>buying a crappy laptop and console every 5 years that struggle to run anything instead of just replacing one or two parts on a machine that does it all flawlessly
>being a weeb
>>339128924
>>339129756
>>339132667
It gets better :^)
>vedfurgoons will defend this
>>339134752
post video of those things happening
Let's finish this discussion:
Untermensch cashcow tier:
>star citizen
>MOBAs
>anything blizzard or ea
>anything microtransaction
>anything f2p / mmo
>anything console / mobile
Master Race Star tier:
>everything for PC that doesn't fall in categories mentioned above
If you don't agree you are a fucking cuck.
>>339137015
Well, first that his studio is going up in flames. Second that he's wasting time and resources on stupid shit like an 18K door.
Third that if i was in his position and considering the above, i'd be blowing that kickstarter money on whatever i could.
If you've ever seen that one part in earlier american dad episodes where they go to the strip club to waste as much money as possible, i'd imagine its like that.
>>339136291
>elite dangerous
Fuck no
>x rebirth
Meh, mods make it alright, still prefer X3 though.
>>339136108
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
>>339135275
Looks like you chose a good day to get up early
>>339137164
absolutely disastrous
when they are on spending mode and treating their cash as reward for work not yet done, it's disaster
>>339134952
Yeah but It's better to be C++ than AAA, but you wouldn't understand because your games are coded in XNL and dragged and dropped from one bit of engine to another.
>>339128739
>muh early adopter meme
>>339137164
This proves you need nothing more than a standard home kitchen to serve at a restaurant.
>>339137834
In all fairness, if you have a standard well equipped and stocked kitchen, and the ability to cook fast under pressure, you are essentially a resturaunt.
>>339137278
so, what are we left with?
>>339138003
do you really need people spelling it out for you to prove you are an idiot for even asking?
>>339137741
I'm not advocating for this game cause I don't give a fuck, but as a tech worker I can tell you that if you want the best talents, you need to have good facilities as well as high wages, so having these kinds of expensive coffee makers is not really that surprising. In the long run they probably got it off somewhere cheaper than whatever website listed that. Basically you spend money to make money (or in this case to make a game)
>>339137812
Oculus marketing is the stupidest looking shit ever.
>>339138003
>all these 4x games like Civilization and Endless Legend
>all these Paradox Grand Strategy Games (Hearts of Iron 4 upcoming, CK2 and EU4 still get new expansions)
>all these Total War games
>all these RTS games
>engineering
>city builders/tycoon
>flight simulators
>Red Orchestra
>Rising Storm 2
>Xcom 2
>Wargame series
>Van Helsing
>Pillars of Eternity
>Path of Exile
>Grim Dawn
>ArmA series
>emulation
>mods
>backwards compatibility spans decades
Goons are out today it seems. Regular reminder your SJW social engineering got BTFO by a fat fuck with half a stroked body.
>>339138220
Who?
>>339138220
You what?
>>339138220
Mind trying that again in proper english this time.
>>339138148
Yeah none of these things these skeptics come up with stick, that's why all the reasons they come up with are just whatever was posted 2 posts before them in the thread and remember none of their old criticisms, because they always end up not being anything besides /v/s lack of understanding of game development
It's too bad, they could have a lot more money but consolefags would rather not change and try to rationalize their fears of this away, because if this game achieves half its goals no one will want a console anymore
Not that all of you critics don't have gaming PCs but it certainly seems to be most, which is representative of the general population anyway, so it's most likely
>>339138220
>star citizen
>SJW
Some chick accused them of sexism and they straight up banned her
>>339138246
>>339138302
>>339138474
I think he's talking about the time when Notch argued with feminists on twitter. Truly a hallmark of western civilization.
>falling for kikestarters
erry time
>>339136693
Because this is a bait thread. Whatever good reasons there might be to think Star Citizen will or won't happen, and to what quality, will not be found here.
As a side note, the guy is already a multimillionaire and it's his birthday, what do people expect? For him to be down Maccy D's having a celebratory Big Mac?
>>339138508
>lack of understanding of game development
How is thinking that a studio shouldnt spend thousands on a fucking door and coffee machine mean people dont understand game development. I can fucking guarantee most kickstarter devs dont waste their funding like that.
>>339138594
Neat. I don't use twitter to often, so i wasn't aware of that.
>>339138663
Most kicker starter devs don't have a hundred million dollars and use the most graphically impressive engine known to man
>>339138148
true, but coupled with private boats, fabulous sliding doors and such, and assuming they've used the money to indulge in other ways that we don't know to raise alarm about, to me it's spelling out a bad mindset
it's like choosing to indulge yourself in some shit though you really should be crunching on through what you've set to do, all the while telling yourself you can just jump back into it at anytime until shirking that responsibility becomes a terrible habit, made worse with permissiveness and when you can afford it
that's the alarm, I think, though I too don't give a fuck about this game
>>339138663
If it's within the budget of the promised goals, what's the problem? You realize that when people plan out a budget, not all of it is spent on things that directly relate to development, right? There are things like benefits, office accessories, gear, things like that. The reason is that, like I said, good developers are expensive.
>>339136291
X:Rebirth is a broken piece of shit. Don't get it, or if you really have to, pirate it. Don't give money to Egosoft, bunch of hacks
>steam friend bought my package out of kindness.
>so it didn't cost a dime here
It is pretty retarded what they're spending money on here though, like a custom fucking door, what the fuck.
Also this game has a ridiculous ammount of whales who have tons of money but give zero value to gameplay/theory/meta etc, so expect the forums to be flooded with asspain when the top 3% of good players take their crown on launch and are shreding $800 ships and gaming the game and none of the fanfiction stories apply as people go bunnyhopping and prone jumping through ships while hipfiring.
>>339138753
The sliding doors are off, I agree, and the boat is also an issue, if he spent kickstarter money acquiring it. If both of these things came from private expenses, I don't see the big deal.
>>339138775
Because it's unnecessary and is money donated to them in order to make a game, not live a life of luxury.
>>339136123
Took the money, released a game, the game had less content than Prison Architect Alpha 2, people got pissed.
>>339138753
Because he couldn't possibly have had money before
Hell my own dad apparently has fond memories of playing his game wing command before I was born
>>339138847
It IS necessary, though. You do realize that that coffee maker is worth MAYBE two months' worth of a single programmer's salary, right? Probably not even that. Programmers don't come cheap and you need to do your best to get them to come work for you.
>>339138775
Take a quick google search of Ion Storm and see why this is fucking stupid.
>>339132973
>giving bottom tier scum like homeless anything
my dad used to run this organization that would try to help homeless people get back into the real world. some start up money, setting them up with jobs etc... it had a long term success rate of less than 10% (meaning within 2 years they were homeless again), and a short term success rate of like 25%. homeless people are just either scum of the earth (not bad or evil, just bottom tier stupid) OR seriously mentally ill, otherwise they wouldn't end up on the street in the first place.
>>339138182
>pillars of eternity
DELETE THIS
>>339138919
>It IS necessary, though
Your fucking deluded if you believe you need a top of the line fucking coffee maker to get programmers to work for you. And yes, i'm a programmer so i fucking know.
>>339138246
>>339138302
>>339138474
>>339138594
SC community manager got interviewed by some goons about >>339138558. They accused him and the project as having a non-progressive agenda. Which would trickle into games journalists and the community giving goons leverage to control the devs, just like eve.
He quickly diffused the situation by replying that CIG isn't ran by bigots and that he use to be a goon and knew what they were trying to do. Goons still ran the story but everyone didn't believe them.
>>339138847
>>339138847
So was motion capture and big Hollywood names, but it got them a shitload more funding to help make the game even bigger
>>339128924
>Autists actually think game studios own the buildings they develop in
>>339139018
I'm a programmer too and I've seen this kind of shit work towards getting good people to come on board. An office environment is worth more than the sum of its parts.
>Back in late 2013/early 2014
>Was still in college back then and very poor
>Room mate was just as poor
>He was extremely hyped about Scam Citizen
>HE SPENT $100 OF HIS FOOD/GAS/RENT MONEY ON SOME SHIP
>YOU DON'T ACTUALLY GET ANYTHING ITS JUST ELECTRONS
>GAME ISN'T EVEN RELEASED YET
I still point this out to that little Jew every so often when I remember it.
>>339130383
>>339131045
Don't you fucking idiots realise that when you're paying into a Kickstarter you're paying the employees salaries? They can do whatever the fuck they want with the salaries.
Why is everyone speaking about Star Citizen when they just released a 8gb update for Elite Dangerous that adds the Engineers stuff along some other retarded gimmicks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-IYEKDF4XQ
>>339138847
Wouldn't the worlds best programmers expect some luxury at the office?
>>339139018
>I'm a programmer so I know
>mom brings me my coffee
Holy shit my sides
>>339138829
agreed
>>339138905
could be, probably is, I don't know enough about the situation
guess time will tell how the development pans out
>>339139018
of course its not necessary, but these kinds of things arent that bad in the grand scheme of things. with the kind of budget cloud imperium is operating at, 13k for a coffee maker with endless warranty (you get those when buying it) that will last them many many years is not a lot. it's not even enough money to employ a badly paid engineer for half a year.
>>339138847
uh it's necessary to keep good employees in your company and also motivated. I'd quit in a second if I had to work in a moldy basement and don't get good supplies on the house.
Those are 1 time investments, this coffee machine can constantly serve coffee for all employees over a 20 year span. The door design reminds you were and what you are working on and looks pretty cool and futuristic.
>>339139138
neat
>>339129639
>its success would mean that big budget PC exclusive games are lucrative.
But it already was extremely lucrative. All it takes in the industry now is a half-baked idea polished to a sheen and thrown out into the public and you get brain dead faggots giving you their paychecks and life savings.
>>339138991
Have you considered the possibility that your dad was just bad at his job?
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3490566/
>>339139041
Now thats what i call progressive.
>>339139138
>127 Views
>Literally Who channel
>WHEN YOU SHILL SO HARD ON /v/ YOU LINK YOUR OWN VIDEO
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>>339131374
>It's not immoral
Yes it is. People gave him the money expecting it to be used towards the production of the game. Just because its within his right to do fuckall with these idiots' money =/= moral or ethical.
>>339139271
>hurr durr no views u must be a shill
Dude, calm the fuck down, it is just a video showing the new flight control chatter, which is surprisingly accurate and really fucking adds to the atmosphere of the game.
Would you prefer this video, instead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeeWEImxGws
>>339139096
>its just electrons
>proton neutron electron master race
The game will basically make or break crowdfunding for years.
I hope the game is everything they promise, but I have my doubts.
>yfw people on /v/ fund kickstarters
>>339139169
>>339139150
This is the mentality that produced the dot com bubble
>>339139148
The world's best programmers aren't making video games.
>>339139350
it is taking too much time, the competitors are already "copying" the concepts shown in Star Citizen, games like EVE, Elite and No Man's Sky are literally adding\implementing stuff that was shown in videos of SC.
If they keep doing this, they will release the game when the market will be already saturated.
Fucking idiots, you never gift ideas that easily.
>>339139346
>$0.10 has been added to your Bank of India account
Here is a better video for you shills out there crunching out hard work at 04:36PM in India.
Think about this on your train ride home Pankaj, not your wife's spicy curry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKJ2CeVEzPo
>>339139350
>I hope the game is everything they promise, but I have my doubts.
So far, its good.
Game is 2 years late and people are asking why having a 10k $ + coffee machine, a custom door in the office or dev taking a vacation is an issue.
Game is 2 years late. Hello? Are you dumb? Of course people will ask what's happening and why he isn't working to keep his promise.
>>339130383
> Investor
wew lad, last time I checked it was a Kickstarter. You know, charity.
>>339139462
Man you worked really hard on that god awful post.
>>339139386
Should have fed it a stray kitten.
>>339139138
The graphics improvements, gimmicks, etc. are nice but I'm not really happy they added even more grind to the game. And some of the mission "improvements" are just fucking stupid. Take the salvage missions, it's nice that they decided you actually have to salvage a specific item from a specific crash now rather than just turning in any old randomly spawned shit but was it really necessary to have that crap where you just fly around in circles for a few minutes while the location marker randomly changes locations? It achieves nothing but needlessly wasting your time.
>>339139462
>Pankaj
It's Pajeet, thanks.
>>339139470
But it's still a far cry from what was promised, hence why I'm sceptical.
>>339139386
It was like the first one
>>339139536
Yeah well that post wasn't 2 years late like your boss'.
>>339128739
They should hang that guy instead
>>339139561
>I'm not really happy they added even more grind to the game
I agree, especially since the Horizons shit is feeling more and more a p2w dlc.
But yeah, it's still more water to the soup, at least.
>they nuked robigo smuggling
>mfw the community is literally ass ravaged because of this
>>339139643
What? Please rephrase whatever you were trying to say and write it in english next time.
>>339138905
the wing commander money he blew on wing commander the movie, which is why he had to sell Digital Anvil to MS. He made two subsequent companies, one that produced nothing and the other that produced a lawsuit from Kevin Costner for $8m. So it's highly improbable he had boat money until he found out he could hunt whales.
>>339139695
Stop participating on non Indian websites. Keep your poo in your own loo.
>>339137947
A pretty limited one. And even then no standard kitchen is going to have heat lamps
>>339139169
>this coffee machine can constantly serve coffee for all employees over a 20 year span
Nah, we had one and it broke down after serving 10 persons for a year.
Roberts has a rich history of fraud
>>339128924
That door is pretty awesome though
>>339139454
>resorting to irrelevant, dishonest semantics to make it look like im wrong
you know i meant vidya developers
>>339131546
>given funds
this is why he can do what he wants with it. it's a donation.
>>339139809
I'm sorry, how are indians related to this topic, again?
>>339139479
They got like 3 times the funding they expected and are using that to expand the original scope of the game, of course its going to take longer
>>339131374
Just because you say it's not immoral doesn't mean it's not immoral
>>339128739
>Giving money to kickstarter/patreon
I never have and I never will. If I ever get the urge to be that bad with money I'll give it to a drunk hobo or go to Vegas. I do not feel bad for the idiots who threw money at assholes based on nothing but empty promises and fairy dust.
>>339139827
I guess that just depends on how much you believe to be "Standard and well equipped"
I could see someone that cooks often using a heat lamp. Or improvising something that works as one.
>>339139839
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Roberts_%28game_developer%29
looks pretty legitimate to me
>>339139386
>ATM Cat knows you're going to spend that money on drugs
it was his birthday and it was private funds, not game funds, that was used to send him on a much needed vacation.
Fuck off Goon.
>>339138859
They released an early access game, did a one or two small updates for it, recouped all the money they spent on it in about a week, then announced that they ran out of money for it and released directly from .30 alpha with a tiny bugfix to take it up to 1.00.
>>339139845
>irrelevant, dishonest semantics
You were the one who used hyperbole to begin with.
Video games are low as fuck on the programming food chain.
>>339140198
How about you do some actual work Chris
>>339140013
>people who donate money are assholes
you must be fun at parties
>>339140290
he does do work, in fact, he's probably one of the few CEOs who actually does coding and shit on top of managing the project.
>>339128739
>space ship sandbox fps mmo
cant wait for spacecraft: minecraft in space
>>339138148
And in a few weeks its busted, missing parts, and doesn't work anymore due to employee abuse.
>>339139690
Honestly, I don't know why anyone ever bothered to grind to the big ships, they were always kind of crap. They are really only good for trading and mining, the most boring shit to do in the game.
Anacondas could be fairly easily defeated by vultures and now with the engineers update you are seeing couriers taking down cutters. The big ships are not behemoths, they are sitting ducks.
>>339140228
>"u attached a little insult at the end of your valid criticism so u get nothing but another fallacy :^)"
>>339139916
currently if you get into warp in the right direction you can get underwater in space, because they have not managed to disable the water physics plane in cryengine and are just constantly moving it below the player. You'd think they' have figured that out after several years of development.
The other day they had a bug where people would get crushed by the acceleration while going into warp. That's awesome in a way but that kinda shit shouldn't happen either. some people get killed by using doors
Even with the scope excuse they should have figured out basics long ago and they haven't
>>339140340
It has a lifetime warranty
I hope chris takes it for himself when this is all over
>>339138220
>goons
>implying /v/ and /vg/ aren't filled with people who got burned by kickstarters in the past and don't see all the warning signs with star citizen and cig
Vedfurgoons should really stick to r/starcitizen
>>339140328
That's exactly what a CEO should not do. He should sort out his company's management problems.
>>339138643
>For him to be down Maccy D's having a celebratory Big Mac?
Chris has had one too many big macs
>>339140429
>issues ive never encountered in like 50 hours of playing the PTU
definitely seems critical to the development
>People still believe in the crowd funding meme
Hey guys my granny's real sick and I lost my wallet and I need bus fare, can I lend a few hundred thousand dollars and repay you when I sort things out with the bank :^)
>>339138919
>a coffee maker that costs thousands of dollars is necessary
>a door that costs thousands of dollars is necessary to develop a video game
Holy fuck, you people really are a cult. I didn't think anyone here was this stupid, but you folks take it to another level.
I know a guy that literally spend a thousand euros on this scam.
mfw
>>339128739
whole bunch of disinfo
derek leave
>>339139083
>I'm a programmer too and I've seen this kind of shit work towards getting good people to come on board.
You're an idiot. People just want decent working conditions like good hours, sick/vacation time, medical/dental, retirement benefits, good HR, etc. Who the fuck puts luxury coffee makers on the top of their priority list?
>>339139083
Explain why so many employees have quit. We're talking several dozen and key figures in the dev cycle.
video evidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJoHlCc4Y7E&feature=youtu.be&t=23m30s
>Star Citizen is never going to be finished
I loved following this game for a long time. I don't think it's a scam but they're going to take so much time to get the basic game out there that it won't even be impressive by the time it's playable. The new Call of Duty looks like a better space game already.
Squadron 42 might be good but the release date keeps moving back every few months.
but desu I played the alpha release more than many full games I bought
>>339139564
Hey Third
>tfw you will never be as sad and pathetic as OP and the other posters in this thread
NEET's should be put down desu.
