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Hey everyone. I have extensive knowledge on the next and upcoming Banjo Kazooie game. I'll drop some info here in the OP, but after that go ahead and ask me whatever questions you want about it.
>Game is being refered to as Banjo Kazooie 3. No "Threeie" or anything like that. This was a deliberate marketing desicion by Microsoft. They don't want their game to have a title that is hard for the general public to pronounce.
>Characters have gone under some minor design changes since Nuts and Bolts, but they retain the same general blocky look.
>Nuts and Bolts is being considered canon, despite what a lot of people might want. The game takes place about a year after Nuts and Bolts and revolves around Grunty having god-like control over the Isle o' Hags, after she was forced to develop games for LOG at the end of Nuts and Bolts. Because of this, expect major nonstop 4th wall breaks. If you thought the game pausing itself in N&B was bad, you have seen nothing yet
>The game takes place in an alternate Isle o' Hags that grunty has created and is shaping however she wants. There are plenty of new levels that she has "created", but also a couple returning ones such as Mumbos Mountain that she has messed with to please herself, and stop Banjo and Kazooie from reaching her. An example of this is in Spiral Mountain, where she noticeably dried up the lake, and made what used to be her lair, into a super menacing, albeit pointless shrine to her.
>The game is structured almost identically to Banjo Tooie. Massive levels that connect to each other both through a hub, and passages connecting them to each other
>Huge cast of returning and new characters. Both Bottle and Jamjars return to teach you new moves. You also have all the moves that you had in both Kazooie and Tooie. No separation pads this time around though.
Thats what I would consider the essential details. Again, if there are any questions feel free to ask. I am not exactly on the development team, but I work very closely with them on and off.
Also, taking this trip for questions.
nice feet, yummy yummu
>>339080241
What did he mean by this?
>>339080304
Sick fetish shit
Good thread.
Also forgot to mention that Grunty is back to rhyming in this game. I know nobody was going to ask that, but I feel like its worth noting.
My guess is they wanted to put a bit of BK nostalgia in there
I wouldnt be surprised if Microsoft wanted to use that banjo license to make something to contend with yooka laylee or whatever
but without proof i can not accept anything op has to say as truth
>>339080672
Will they announce it at E3?
>>339080829
I don't blame you desu. I'm just gonna post the info you have, and the lurkers can take it with as much salt as they want. I'd rather that then just be called a liar all thread
>>339080071
>the same general blocky look
>Nuts and Bolts is being considered canon
>major nonstop 4th wall breaks
sounds bad already
>>339080935
Yes. First trailer will be at E3. Expect a 2017 release
Why do this if Yooka Laylee was in development beforehand?
>>339081049
Spite
>>339080071
Who gives a fuck we got Yooka Laylee coming out, you fucking shill.
>>339081028
Really now...fuck it, I'm bored, I'll play along.
Will Grant Kirkhope or any other old Rare(ware) employee make the music?
Will it begood?
Honestly why the fuck should we even care about this with Yooka Laylee coming out?
Yooka's gonna probably end up having all the charm, wit, and fun this game will literally never have.
Also, I'd feel fucking dirty playing a Banjo game that's trying to emulate a style done by people who don't even work there anymore.
>>339080071
Shit thread. Postthicc.
LEL sounds legitfaggot
>>339081049
>>339081104 Exactly this. I have never seen a group of developers despise another group like I have seen Rare HATE Playtonic. They try to avoid drama as much as possible, but a lot of the team members actively despise Playtonic. Specifically the members that work closer with Microsoft than rare themselves.
>>339081143
Yes. Grant is back. He is the only returning musician though, and hes not doing the full soundtrack. He is a major contributor though
>>339081316
I really really hope so. I haven't played any of it, but what i have seen looks really fun. Looks like it plays just like the old games.
>>339081320
Thats up to you, man. desu, having both come out is really encouraging. 3d platformers really need to be resparked as a genera
>no seperation pads
0/10
It looks like a tweaked Nuts & Bolts, but which direction are they taking the changes? Is it going to look more like that disusting VR Conker, or more like the classic N64 look?
>>339081478
>a lot of the team members actively despise Playtonic
why?
>>339081478
>I have never seen a group of developers despise another group like I have seen Rare HATE Playtonic. They try to avoid drama as much as possible, but a lot of the team members actively despise Playtonic. Specifically the members that work closer with Microsoft than rare themselves.
I thought that Rare supported Playtonic, or was that just PR doing their thing on social media to save face after saying that games like BK don't sell anymore, and still Yooka-Laylee had a very successful kickstarter?
>>339080071
>Phil Spencer says Microsoft never forced Rare to do things or killed them
>Literally won't call it Threeie
Yeah fuck this, Yooka Laylee is the game I've been waiting for. Rare is not the same.
>>339081320
If Microsoft do opt for another Banjo game, I think they'd find themselves in a similar situation to Top Gear right now.
Also not naming it Banjo Threeie is a mistake in my opinion.
>>339081478
>Exactly this. I have never seen a group of developers despise another group like I have seen Rare HATE Playtonic. They try to avoid drama as much as possible, but a lot of the team members actively despise Playtonic. Specifically the members that work closer with Microsoft than rare themselves.
>Yes. Grant is back. He is the only returning musician though, and hes not doing the full soundtrack. He is a major contributor though
Never been easier to call someone's bullshit.
If Rare hates Playtonic, why the fuck would they hire Grant again? He's one of the major composers over at Playtonic, and one of the people who's been pissed with Microsoft/NeoRare for ages.
He would never work with them again, and if modern Rare spites Playtonic like you say they do, then they would never hire him.
Also, it'd be pretty fucking pathetic to absolutely loath the company filled with people who founded the franchise you're working on.
>>339080071
I don't believe you.
>>339080071
Calling it "Threeie" was a joke. It was never going to be called that.
>>339081842
Prove it
Why is modern Rare so bent on getting rid of all the fans that gave them status? (ie pointless collecting at the beginning of N&B and Conker's 'Let's make our own game!')
>playing Banjo 3 when all the Banjo Devs are making YookaLaylee
>>339081713
OP's credibility destroyed in one easy post.
Fuck Banjo Threeie with Yooka-Laylee coming out.
Call me when they finally decide to make a 3D Beat 'em Up with the mother fucking Battletoads.
#UnloadTheToad
>a lot of the team members actively despise Playtonic
you didn't even try
>>339081713
What do you have to say about this, op?
>>339081898
Its Microsoft. Even the ideas that they "say" are Rares are still Microsofts, because they fired a ton of people and were replaced with Microsoft employees.
>>339081570
Depends on the character, really. Most of them fall in this satisfying in-between. Mumbo and Wumba both have their old outfits, but are still stylized as they were in N&B.
Kazooie looks a bit more like her old design. Removed the heavy eyelashes and shes a tad more bird-like like she was in the older games. Bano is a LITTLE less blocky, and his clothes and backpack aren't as patchy as they were in NB.
>>339081624
Direct competition I suppose. They "rip off" bk in so many ways, I would be upset too. Things like "Pagies", and the way the chat bubbles pop up look like they are directly pulled from BK.
>>339081627
Its one thing to publicly support, and another for each individual member to support. Of course Rare isn't going to tweet about how much they hate playtonic or anything like that. Like I said, they want to avoid drama.
>>339081713
Grant is freelance and makes good music. Hes not going to chose sides like other people might. He also has seen the new BK, and thinks it looks amazing.
>>339080071
https://youtu.be/V4SQj8Ua3kM
>tweet Grant
>OP is full of shit
>>339081713
Also, like I said, its the individual members that have an issue with Playtonic. Not the entire Rare as a whole.
>Game is being refered to as Banjo Kazooie 3. No "Threeie" or anything like that.
That shit alone would show that theyve learned nothing from nuts and bolts. Also whats the point when fans already get their banjo threeie with yooka laylee?
>>339082135
What are some of the worlds that are planned for the game, any names or themes you can share?
>>339082135
>Direct competition I suppose. They "rip off" bk in so many ways, I would be upset too. Things like "Pagies", and the way the chat bubbles pop up look like they are directly pulled from BK.
But it was most of Playtonic that made Banjo what it is...
>>339082135
>Direct competition I suppose. They "rip off" bk in so many ways
>the people responsible for its creation are ripping off their own creation
You're pretty desperate.
>>339082135
>Its one thing to publicly support, and another for each individual member to support. Of course Rare isn't going to tweet about how much they hate playtonic or anything like that. Like I said, they want to avoid drama.
I could see this. It's obvious neither Microsoft/Rare nor Playtonic want to throw shit at eachother. Gavin Price even said Microsoft gave them freedom while he was at Rare, but despite this they still were on a leash and had to do what Microsoft said. Its all PR because neither side wants to say anything bad at eachother.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-08-who-killed-rare
If you read this article, it's obvious Microsoft killed Rare. It was meetings. Everytime a meeting with Rare happened, things changed, people were replaced and soon Rare was pretty much Microsoft wearing the skin of the old Rare. I'm sure Rare hates Playtonic, because Rare in majority is mostly Microsoft employees now.
>>339082135
>Direct competition I suppose. They "rip off" bk in so many ways, I would be upset too. Things like "Pagies", and the way the chat bubbles pop up look like they are directly pulled from BK.
Playtonic's YL is a spiritual succesor to a game they themselves made. it doesn't make sense for nu-Rare to "despise" them.
>>339081478
>I have never seen a group of developers despise another group like I have seen Rare HATE Playtonic
Maybe instead of bating the fans for a decade they should have actually used the old IPs then
>>339082519
Yeah it does. Nu-Rare is a bunch of newbies and Microsoft employees that are fucking stupid and think all people want are the shit we get on Xbox. Of course they'd be pissed to find out that they were wrong and people want a 3D platformer.
>>339080071
When did development start?
>>339082528
>Maybe instead of bating the fans for a decade they should have actually used the old IPs then
It's fucking disgusting how much Microsoft/Rare has bated fans over the years only to to reveal absolutely nothing (or worse, in Conker's case).
Fucking assholes.
>>339082618
that's irrational and sounds exactly like what some random anon would make up for thread replies. it's more likely that Playtonic would resent Microsoft and Rare.
Humor me, OP.
What's the name of the first new world?
HOW do you know everything? Did you see any Tootie? What's your favorite BK level?
>>339082826
Seriously. For example, it blows my mind David Wise was at Rare for so long under Microsoft and composed NOTHING for them. You guys had one of the best composers in the biz and didn't do shit with him.
>>339082353
Gonna be hard remembering all the names, but some of the more noteable levels are a giant beehive with fully scaleable walls covered in honey, and a giant bee that shoots stingers at you.
Another is similar to the seasons level of Kazooie (Sorry, I'm really bad with names), where there is a central hub, but entering the level at different times during the game changes the day time, season, and at least once the general layout. I can come back to this question after. The thread is moving too fast.
>>339082362
>>339082519
Try telling that to Rare. To them, its still what they would consider their baby. Even though most of them didn't even work on Kazooie. If i were to look at it from their perspective, I would try to look at it as if its their adopted child.
>>339082646
Hard to say. I only recently became involved. Probably mid to late 2015? Ideas were probably being passed around before that though
>>339082826
Its pretty funny that Playtonic came about. After seeing the scans from Edge this week it's almost like Rare never left.
REALLY shows how controlling Microsoft is if you ask me.
>>339082985
>>Another is similar to the seasons level of Kazooie (Sorry, I'm really bad with names), where there is a central hub, but entering the level at different times during the game changes the day time, season, and at least once the general layout. I can come back to this question after. The thread is moving too fast.
That sounds nice, like a mix of Click Clock Wood (the one you were talking about from BK) and Fungi Forest from DK64.Also fuck you OP I'm going to fall for this and go to bed sad
>>339082942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Wise_(composer)
Looking at this, it states that he did work for some XBLA game called "War World". Other than that he apprantly composed stuff for the GBA/DS games like the DKC3 port and Viva Pinata: Pocket Paradise.
I just want to know how you found out all this shit?
What kinda inside connections do you got going on here, OP?
Or is this another case of the hacker known as 4chan?
>Rare
Dont give a shit anymore, let Microsoft keep outsourcing their IP's to good companies
>>339083110
You don't happen to have the scans from the interview with EDGE do you? I haven't read it, and I'd really like to!
>>339083152
How the fuck did they not use him for anything else? I bet he was doing music for this game before it was shittcanned by Microsoft.
>>339082921
Gruntildas Garden
>>339082932
>HOW do you know everything
a bit specific for me to answer, sorry
>Did you see any Tootie?
Easter egg at the very most
>What's your favorite BK levelGrunty Industries
>>339083159
I really can't say. You could be able to find out if you put the pieces together, but all I can say is I work closely with Rare, but I am not a developer or anything of that sort.
>>339083236
Sure, might as well dump them here.
>>339083263
How many fucking great looking games have Rare canceled over the years? All of them look like they could've been another memorable 3D Platformer/Adventure game.
>>339083362
Thank you anon!
>>339083382
ATLEAST over 20. Hate to link neogaf but heres a good list.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=88273291&postcount=1
>>339083351
>I really can't say.
Thread disregarded
>>339083351
>Gruntildas Garden
Wow, you're boring.
>>339083572
Why did this have to happen to Rare of all fucking studios.
>>339082985
>The thread is moving too fast.
>I can't make up stuff fast enough
git gud
>>339083780
You fall hard when you fall from the top
>>339083351
>a bit specific for me to answer, sorry
>I really can't say
People like you are fucking attention whoring trash.
This thread has been nothing but bullshit. Fuck off.
>>339083780
yeah i really wish rare didn't go down the drain and lose their most talented people and get bought out by microsoft.
we could of had banjo-kazooie on gamecubeand in smash bros ;_;
>>339083780
microsoft bought rare because they thought they'd get donkey kong.
>drop made-up bullshit
>as soon as there are more than ten posters, pull the "I can't reveal who I am but I know these devs" card in addition to becoming a lot more vague with answers
Just start shitposting with the trip already.
>>339082985
>Another is similar to the seasons level of Kazooie (Sorry, I'm really bad with names)
>>339083351
>>What's your favorite BK level
>Grunty Industries
how do you remember Grunty Industries but not Click Clock Wood?
>>339083351
Grant, is that you?
>>339084096
This was confirmed false wasn't it?
I think it was just some retard in the PR department of something that said that, but no one actually important.
>>339083780
This happens almost anytime an out of touch studio buys a developer or gets an old IP. When Rare had half of it's stakes owned by Nintendo, The Stamper Brothers still had their own half. They had some freedom to do things they wanted like Bad Fur Day for example, while still doing things Nintendo tasked them to do like Goldeneye or Mickey's Speedway. When Microsoft bought Rare 100%, they control the entire company. Thats why the Stampers left early on, Microsoft obviously did not want to fund the games Rare were best at and forced their hand into what they are today.
Microsoft spent so much money for a company they really had no faith in. I'll never understand this.
>>339084204
It's his favorite level :^)
>>339084135
I said in my second post what I could about my connection to the game.
>>339084204
Grunty Industries is easy to remember. Its just the bosses name and Industries. Plus, >>339084320
I still want to see the E3 logo switched around to read 3E and then Banjo Kazooie drop in beside it. That's been my dream for nearly a decade.
>>339084298
I mean, to be fair, MS did give Rare freedom. Viva Pinata for example was 100% Rare. The decision to turn Banjo into a vehicle based game was also 100% Rare and Gregg Mayles not wanting to make a traditional platforming game.
Fuck you faggot, you keep saying they're making another Banjo platformer and it never gets announced.
Sea of Thieves and Yooka Laylee show that it was never in development in the first place.
>>339084414
don't you have a floor to clean
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/pimEmXr_hGjowPHU617hVA/
>>339084607
Haha, sorry fellow gamer!
It might be hard for you and your friends to pronounce "Banjo Threeie", so we've made it easier, and more enjoyable for everyone!
Say hello to the new face of fun, Banjo Kazooie 3â„¢!
>>339084414
Will all abilities from the first games be available from the start, or do you have to relearn some of them?
>>339084648
I'm not gonna pretend like Microsoft didn't try sometimes with Rare. Viva Pinata was Rares idea entirely, but a lot of ideas Rare wanted to do were never given the go ahead or just cancelled. Lots of stuff from Chris Seavor never happened. Also, Gregg wanted to do the vehicle idea but so did a lot of other employees that were hired through Microsoft. Grant Kirkhope has said openly that lots of people in the studio would have rather they just made a Banjo remake. I don't put the blame entirely on Microsoft, but they had a big part in why the studio isn't the same anymore.
>>339084983
All abilities from both 2 games are technically available from the start, just like Kazooie abilties were in Tooie, but not all of the early levels support the abilities that you have.
What I mean by this, is that even though you technically start with the ability to use flying pads, the first flight pad isn't until a few levels in
>>339085151
That's what I thought, sounds good.
Will it be XBone only, or come to PC as well, like KI3?
>>339080071
>The game takes place about a year after Nuts and Bolts and revolves around Grunty having god-like control over the Isle o' Hags, after she was forced to develop games for LOG at the end of Nuts and Bolts. Because of this, expect major nonstop 4th wall breaks. If you thought the game pausing itself in N&B was bad, you have seen nothing yet
This is actually pretty funny.
>>339085151
Do you know whos doing the voices for Banjo and Kazooie? Chris Sutherland is at Playtonic.
>people actually believe this fanfiction that Rare is making Banjo Kazooie 3 to spite Playtonic despite there clearly not being any bad blood between the developers
You people are pathetic holy shit.
Go watch those Rare Revealed videos of you want to see how much Rare "hates" Playtonic.
>>339082327
Because those characters look like utter shite compared to Banjo and Kazooie?
>>339085312
to be honest, I'm not totally sure.
I hope PC release, but I wouldn't be surprised if its an exclusive.
>>339085342
Grunty is also talking to you quite a bit while you play. The same way she does while exploring her lair in Kazooie. It has charm to it.
>>339085381
No idea.
>>339080071
>Hey everyone. I have extensive knowledge on the next and upcoming Banjo
Stopped reading here. Why do these threads still exist
>>339085425
It's pretty obvious the guy's samefagging at this point.
>>339084271
It wasn't considered false when it wasn't true at fuck all. That anon is just spinning that information to fit his anti Microsoft agenda.
>>339085512
Does Mumbo still give you transformations? Any new ones?
>>339085425
b-b-b-but that's PR...
>>339085601
Chris Seavor said someone at Microsoft thought they owned Donkey Kong, not an anon.
>>339085512
Maybe I missed it, but I'll ask it anyway;
Will Bottles teach you abilities again, or is it someone else again?
>>339085425
>people actually believe this fanfictio
It's just the Banjofags that can't move on
Let them have their moment
>>339085425
It's pretty obvious Rare and Playtonic don't hate each other. I still think Microsoft was what ruined Rare especially after seeing >>339083572
>>339081842
This
>>339085134
Thank you for posting it, very kind of you!
>>339085342
I always felt that N&B took the 4th wall breaking thing way too far.
I mean the other games broke it too, but it was mostly a bunch of jokes and gags on the side. BK's plot was about rescuing Tooty from Gruntilda. BT's plot was about stopping a resurrected Gruntilda from destroying Isle O' Hags. N&B's plot was about "le game god makes washed up video game characters compete lol XD" See the problem here?
I just never liked how Nuts & Bolts didn't really attempt to make a living breathing world like the first two games. BK/BT had a bunch load of NPCs to talk and flesh out the world. N&B only really has like 10 or so characters and frequently reuses them each world just so you can do some missions. And all the worlds themselves are literally artificial and stitched together, completely empty except for the gruntbots and some random harmless NPCs like mechanical cows or something.
>>339085768
"Someone" isn't "Microsoft". So you see, the anon pointing out that MS bought Rare because they thought they'd get DK is factually wrong.
>>339085809
ctrl-f Bottles
>>339085969
Ah I get what you're saying then. Yeah that's wrong
>>339085994
Oh right, sorry.
>>339085649
Both Mumbo and Humba Wumba give you transformations. Some levels have one or the other, but a few have both, with 2 different transformations in the level. There is a recurring gag that they have a sort of friendly rivalry, and shittalk each other, whenever you visit one.
>>339085809
Both Bottles and Jamjars from tooie. It depends on the type of move. Jamjars teaches exclusively violent and attack moves, while Bottles teaches everything else. He acts as sort of a pacifist after he died in Tooie, and now hates most violence.
>>339086229
>He acts as sort of a pacifist after he died in Tooie, and now hates most violence.
But I thought Nuts & Bolts was canon. Or did you forget what Bottles was like in Nuts & Bolts? :)
>>339086229
So you said that we will see it on E3, will it be gameplay or just sort of announcing it?
It's been so long.
>>339086374
He was a tour guide right? Or something stupid like that?
Its not like these games have super strong continuity. I haven't seen the full game obviously, so I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a reference to it at one point or another
>>339086502
Gameplay
>>339086564
>that smug Kazooie
>>339086569
I wasn't talking about his in-game job at the hub. :)
>>339080071
>
>Game is being refered to as Banjo Kazooie 3. No "Threeie" or anything like that. This was a deliberate marketing desicion by Microsoft. They don't want their game to have a title that is hard for the general public to pronounce.
Even if this entire thing is bullshit, I believe this. Fucking ratbastard microsoft will do anything to kill the original banjo-kazooie fanbase
first it was Nuts n Bolts
then it was the blatant fucking insults in Nuts n Bolts
I can see thisfucking happening.
>>339080071
>nuts and bolts cannon
They clipped kazzoies wings.
They clipped kazzoies wings.
How is this gonna work
>>339086229
What's Bottles up to?
>>339085964
>I always felt that N&B took the 4th wall breaking thing way too far.
another thing I disliked was all the nostalgia pandering and over reliance on references. it made Nuts & Bolts seem like a tribute and finale to the series that leaves no room for a platforming sequel. I think it would be wise to make N&B non-canon
>>339086569
Are you yourself a big fan of BK?
>>339086940
>can't remember the best levels' name
>>339086732
Then what were you referring to? I don't remember him being particularly violent in Nuts and Bolts, but its been a while. Either way, him refusing to teach banjo and kazooie violent moves is more of a quirk. His entire character doesn't revolve around it.
>>339086940
I was when I was a kid, but I wouldn't call myself a huge fan nowadays. I played Nuts and Bolts but never went back to it
I'll be right back to answer more questions, guys. Gonna go eat something.
>a-a-another f-friday night playing pretend with five people on /v/
>>339080139
How did you make a trip without a name and how will the game work if the birds wings are clipped ?
>>339087280
It's Friday night what the fuck where have I been this week?
>>339083652
>>339083759
>>339084101
>>339084394
>>339084497
>>339084620
>>339084721
>>339085134
Reading all of this is so bizarre, like, this is actually happening, this is a real interview.
It makes me so happy that finally something that my childhood self wanted so much is happening, even if it's not in the name of "Banjo Kazooie".
>139 replies
>36 posters
>>339087536
shut up gayboy
>>339087536
I myself stand for like 25 posts, but that's because I have replied to almost every one of OPs post with a question.
>>339087664
>142 replies
>36 posters
I SWEAR to god almighty, OP, if you are lying about this.. I'll go fucking ape shit..
>>339081478
FAKE
>RARE HATES PLATONIC
you realize half the rare team is made up of familly members of the playtonic team?
Christ. What an idiot.
>>339087416
What's crazier is that it looks so good. People said for years that Rare was never good and Microsoft just bought them after they were going bad. After reading this, it's like that never left.
>>339087536
>being surprised that a "leak" thread is full of samefagging and people playing along either due to desperation or boredom
>Rare must hate playtonic
>Implying it isn't like the Barn things back in old Rare where the Conker devs mounted Banjo's head on the pub's wall
>>339087942
It really does. I kickstarted it without a second-thought, but I always had a thought in the back of my mind that maybe this is too good to be true, and that the game will not be nowhere near as good as I hope.
But after reading this, and seeing all the new in-game images...I have more hope than ever, and I really look forward to playing the game and hearing it's fantastic score.
>>339080071
I don't believe you, but i'd love to be wrong.
I'll wait for E3 I suppose.
>>339080241
YU-HUH
>>339088771
Well we might as well post some Banjo pics while waiting for OP to eat.
I'm back if you guys have more questions.
Feel free to keep em coming
>>339087868
Why wouldn't rare hate playtonic
family or not, they left Rare because MicRare was shit.
>"We've learned from one another," Price says. "He might say, 'Gav, this looks like shit,"...
>>339089401
Have they decided how many levels they want the game to have?
>>339089840
Don't have an exact number, but expect around 15.
>>339090036
15!?
Are they insane? BT had 8, and they were already huge!
Or are you counting the overworld and stuff like that as well?
>>339089401
How do we know this isn't fake? What proof can you give us that it isn't fake?
>>339090186
I was counting the overworld and spiral mountain. Taking into consideration those, and the fact that I don't have a definite number, maybe around 10 or 11.
>>339090221
This.
How do we know you're not just wasting our time? I get that if this is legit, you can't give us your name or anything, but we need some kind of proof that this isn't just b8.
>>339090036
>15
I really, really doubt it. I'd say 8 or 9, along with the villain's lair and the Spiral Mountain equivalent. Same as BK.
>>339090221
I can't supply proof. If thats an issue, than don't bother with the thread.
I don't expect anyone here to take me for fact. Take what I said with a grain of salt if you need to.
>>339090435
>I can't supply proof.
Here's the telltale sign, morons.
I'm sure this is legit and wasn't inspired at all by all of the Yooka-Laylee threads over the past couple of days.
>>339089401
>>339089840
>>339090036
>>339090186
>>339090343
dude stop talking to yourself
it's unhealthy
>>339080071
>This was a deliberate marketing desicion by Microsoft
>desicion
Stopped reading there.
>>339090623
>>339083572
Damn, Banjo-Karting looks like it could've been fun.
>>339090698
Why is it that you now decided to post about the game here on /v/, and not earlier or later, because of E3?
>>339090421
who cares if it is
it's fun to talk about how fucking shit rare is and how great playtonic is
>>339090993
Yea I suppose so. Plus the yooka laylee threads and Sonic 3 leaks. I was originally not going to, but I kinda gave in
>>339091000
you got me
let the shitposting resume
>>339091078
>Sonic 3 leaks
What's that? I must've missed it.
Also, does the game feel like it could've been made by the old Rare guys back in 200X, just with better graphics, or does it feel like a new teams spin on the formula?
Did he kill Rare?
>>339080071
Why do you guys do this to yourselves every year? Rare is gone. It's okay to appreciate the past, but it's time to move on.
>>339091379
It definitely does feel like the old games. The art style kinda does give me a negative bias against it (I really don't like the blocky look), but looking at it from a pure gameplay and writing perspective, I wouldn't notice the difference
>>339091567
I swear to god, if you're lying...
I liked Banjo N&B's look.
>>339091567
>I wouldn't notice the difference
isn't a huge chunk of the original team missing though?
>>339091567
How does unlocking new worlds work, do you just have to collect jiggies and notes to progress through the hub-world and unlock worlds by just placing the jiggies, or is it like BT where you have to do that mini-game where you place the jiggies like a real puzzle?
>>339091682
N&B looked like fucking shit m8
>>339090435
>I can't supply proof.
Total horseshit.
There are a million and one ways you could substantiate your claims without giving away ANY personal or identifying information.
>>339091714
True, but they must have studied those games back and forth to come up with what they made here. Like I said previously though, I didn't actually play the game. I have only seen extensive gameplay, concepts, etc. For all I know it could feel totally wrong once I get my actual hands on it
>>339091832
They kept the tooie minigame, but streamlined it where there is no longer a timer, and instead of a video of the world, its just a still image. That might have been a placeholder though, and they could add the video later in development. The timer is definitely gone though
>>339091942
u fockin wot m8
>>339092247
God dammit, I can't believe you've almost convinced me.
Anyway, more questions I guess...
Are bosses going to return? They were almost no real bosses in BK except Gruntilda, BT's bosses actually felt like bosses, with personalities and stuff.
>>339092393
he clearly meant the character design and art style
>>339089117
>screenshot
>didn't even capture the spoiler text
What faggot made this?
>>339092576
I know right? I almost want to take his word for it.
>>339092393
It's not about the graphical quality, of course the 360's better than the fucking N64. It's about the artstyle.
>>339092650
>>339092802
that's clearly what that's a picture of take your eyes out of your asshole, i like the way the new banjo looks, and kazooie's new appearance reflects her personality better than being an orange blob that appears for 3 seconds at a time
>>339091505
>tfw people actually want to retcon krystal
she was CUTE
CUTE!
>>339092709
It's small things like how he explained the jiggie-minigame and how it differs from BT that just feels a bit to real, like someone faking it wouldn't come up with something like that unless he really thought all of this out, but I've asked like 20+ questions and gotten an answer for all of them...
>>339092247
why are you so sure about the timer?
>>339092576
Bosses come in two types. There are actual bosses with health bars like in 2, and then the "passive" kinds of bosses like the monkey at mumbos mountain in Kazooie that are just kinda there, and don't have any intro or anything. The giant bee that I described earlier is one of those kinds.
Also a few returning bosses. Mr Patch and Klungo most notably.
>>339093079
I asked when I noticed it was missing.
>>339093025
>>339092709
>>339092576
Nice samefagging OP.
Seriously, fuck off with your bullshit attention seeking.
>>339093025
>but I've asked like 20+ questions and gotten an answer for all of them
That just means you're gullible
>>339093253
Again, you have me wrong you fucking assclown, I'm just a gullible slut that wants to believe, like this anon says >>339093292
>>339093253
I wish it was him samefagging but no I'm just gullible
>>339093253
>Doesn't actually quote any of my posts so I can't screencap which ones are (me)
well played
>>339081624
Because they know Playtonic(Essentially Rareware) can nail the formula with YL right off the bat while Rare is stuck being under Microsofts decision making.
>>339093413
>>339093387
I can't stop kek-ing.
>>339093180
>Klungo's a boss again
So did he go back to being a bad guy or what?
>kazooie's new appearance reflects her personality better than being an orange blob that appears for 3 seconds at a time
you're comparing the graphical capabilities of an N64 to a 360 again.
>>339093413
Will Showdown Town get referenced at all?
>>339093537
>while Rare is stuck being under Microsofts decision making
there's only like 2 people from the original team still on that shitship anyway
>>339093578
even looking at her concept art or the model in the original compared to her new one shows my point
also lrn2quote
>>339093578
meant for:>>339092905
>>339093559
Grunty, having control of the entire game, brainwashes him in a way to make him her minion again
>Why doesn't she just do that to Banjo and Kazooie/the rest of the cast
I don't know. Having a godlike character like this introduces so many plotholes its not even worth thinking about
>>339093583
LOG makes an appearance, and the entire plot is essentially based around the ending of N&B, so in that way yes. Showdown Town itself is never explicitly mentioned though
>>339093696
sorry your taste is poop :^)
>>339093862
Do you know/remember what will be shown in the E3 trailer? Could you give us a run-down in that case of what will be shown?
>>339093862
>LOG makes an appearance
>the entire plot is essentially based around the ending of N&B
why haven't they learned?
>>339093862
>I don't know
Come on, don't half-ass your story.
>>339093868
>your point is right but i'm have no integrity to say that i'm wrong so here's a personal attack :^)
shouldn't you be doing your summer homework or something
If Rare ever did make Banjo Threeie I'd be so conflicted between Playtonic's efforts and Rare's
>>339093983
I actually have no idea what is in the trailer. All I know about it is that it is referred to as the "gameplay trailer"
>>339093990
Its done tastefully. They are fully aware Nuts and Bolts wasn't for everyone so there are plenty of jokes at the expense of the game.
>>339094076
I'd just take both and be happy that the collect-a-thon 3D platformer is making a comeback. A Hat In Time's beta was so much fun, too.
>>339094064
in what way has the N&B design improved on the original's?
>>339094076
>I'd be so conflicted between nearly all the people from the original making a successful spiritual successor with lots of love put into it and a team of mostly nobodies with original devs you could count on one hand attempting to revive something they ignored/killed throughout the years under Microsoft's foot
wut
>>339094248
Yeah but it's Banjo Kazooie, man
>>339094184
they took the ideals of the game and made the characters represent them more predominantly, along with giving more personality to everything from the items to the world itself (e.g. the first world that looks like it's in a sprawling field but it's actually like a rotoscope image thing on the walls)
>>339094129
I have a question, why are you here 4 hours later still roleplaying?
>>339094297
Why can't people like you let go?
>>339094129
You said earlier that the reason they are FINALLY making a BK3 is because of Yooka-Laylee, but is that really it? No other reason, like KI3 and Rare Replay?
>>339094129
>Its done tastefully
>expect major nonstop 4th wall breaks. If you thought the game pausing itself in N&B was bad, you have seen nothing yet
>>339094248
>original devs you could count on one hand
It's the same case for Playtonic/Yooka-Laylee
>>339094129
>Its done tastefully
N&B shouldn't even be acknowledged. it jumped the shark in terms of story and gags.
>>339094129
>Its done tastefully
>acknowledges Nuts&Bolts
>literally said it would have more fourth wall breaking done similarly to Nuts&Bolts
>>339094412
I don't know, anon.
>>339094420
I was misunderstood. Yooka Laylee was just a pushing factor. There have been plans to make a genuine Banjo Kazooie for a while. Things like Yooka Laylee, and the success of Rare Replay just made them realize that the market for the game was bigger than they thought, and if there was ever a time to announce the game its now.
For all I know, we could still have been getting it in 2017 even if Yooka Laylee was never announced, or maybe it never would have seen the light of day until even 2020
>>339094496
Well yea, thats the point of the game. The entire plot is one big fourth wall break
>>339080071
Wait, what about that pirates game, though
>>339094827
Still coming out on schedule as far as I know
>>339080139
>>339080071
Will it be available on Windows 10/PC?
>>339089401
so when E3 comes around and nothing happens are you going to be a shameless faggot going around with your own screencaps about how you epically trolled like two people in a thread?
>>339094907
Can you tell us anything about Sea of Thieves?
>>339094915
look above
>>339094954
I don't really know anything about it. Its not really something I'm interested in
>>339094323
>they took the ideals of the game and made the characters represent them more predominantly
example?
>along with giving more personality to everything from the items to the world
they took personality away. the first world is artificial and the enemies are mechanical.
>>339091449
No, he nearly did though.
>>339094682
I had that same plush and cut the tail from his back so it hangs freely, too.
Profound feel.
Sounds fucking awful.
>>339094706
Are there any new abilities that you know, or like new egg-ammo for Kazooie?
>>339095015
He's full of shit. The game has the least amount of NPCs with dialogue and they still didn't do much with their personalities. The worlds were fucking barren and they used the same Grunty ball bots everywhere.
>>339095190
i found the guy who didn't read any of the thread and wants to be funny
>>339095143
>I had that same plush and cut the tail from his back so it hangs freely, too.
glad I'm not the only one who did that
>>339095319
more like you found another guy who wasn't a gullible retard lapping up whatever the OP makes up because he can't accept that banjo and kazooie are fucking dead
>>339095395
>sounds fucking awful
yep that's definitely saying that it's fake
>>339095369
Actually, that isn't the same one. Mine stood a bit more upright and had a closed mouth.
Still, respect for a fellow plushbro. That little guy was my favorite for years.I wish I knew where he was now.
>>339095395
>banjo and kazooie are fucking dead
the spirit of BK is in YL
>>339095218
Off the top of my head:
>Wall jumping
>gliding
(Do a sort of mario longjump, kazooie sticks out her wings, and you can glide spyro the dragon style)
>Lobbing eggs like its a grenade
(I haven't seen useful situation for this one yet. I'm curious to see why they are including this)
>>339095572
>gliding spyro the dragon style
fuck i'd cum so hard
>>339095567
FUCK every time I see a pikachu plush like mine the mouth is closed
i've never found anyone else with my specific one, starting to think it's a bootleg or something at this point
>>339095572
>Wall jumping
That's the dumbest idea ITT so far.
Thread seems to be dying down. Any last questions before we 404?
>>339096751
How many people do you think you fooled?
My guess is 6.
>>339096751
Why should I believe any of this?
You're about the 200th "leaker" for BK.
>>339096751
How badly do you think you're gonna get BTFO when Yooka-Laylee destroys Banjo-Kazooie 3?
>>339096751
Yeah. How long did it take you to write this up?
Grant said something about a big secret he needs to hide but OP is bullshit anyway.
>>339096970
>BTFO
Nigga, I'm hyped as fuck for Yooka Laylee
>>339096751
Can you tell Microsoft to fuck off?
We're not going to buy this game if it's real, and it's mind-blowingly pathetic how they're trying to pull this stunt on the wake of Playtonic's imminent booming success they'll have off of doing what they fucking do bestThat Microsoft stole from them and profited off of them.
Other than that, have a good day and you haven't put out a very convincing argument, but for the sake of it actually BEING real.
Fuck off and stay fuck off, Microsoft. You're dead to me.
>>339096751
True or not, it was a fun thread, you were entertaining OP.
>>339097149
cute samefag
>>339097087
If it's real it doesn't matter who made it as long as it's good. Fuck off if you think otherwise.
>>339097229
Why does everyone keep thinking I am samefagging? I haven't taken my trip off all thread
>>339097292
>Why does everyone keep thinking I am samefagging?
Same reason you made up a leak.
Boredom.
>>339080071
Fuck off Patarsenic no one's falling for your shit this time.
>>339090830
>Sabrewolf from Killer Instinct
He was a recurring joke, I think. He was the big boss in the Sabreman GBA game.
>no Rattle or Roll
>no Jet Packer.
>>339096751
why did they choose to keep the art style from N&B?
>>339097234
I was alluding to the fact that OP claimed MS says BK is "like their baby" when Rare gave birth to it, and they wouldn't have it had Rare not done that. And then tried to profit off of them again after they fucked up the original idea and tried to restart; MS decides they need a piece of that pie again.
It's incredibly sickening don't you think?
>>339097292
>Why does everyone keep thinking I am samefagging?
Because you are
>I haven't taken my trip off all thread
You have no proof of that, just like you can't prove any of the stuff you posted in the thread
>>339096751
Any new characters you've seen?
>>339097912
Probably to create their own sense of identity.
>>339098013
There is a level completely inhabited by birds the same species as Kazooie. You meet another Breegull there who supplies you with hints of where some of the harder to find Jiggies are in exchange for notes.
>>339098006
Literally
>>339093540
>>339093413
>>339097932
MIcrosoft is mad as fuck because they paid a shitload for rare back in the days and it didn't pay off and they even got the bad reputation of ruining Rare.
The only good game Rare made after the N64 days is Viva Pinata.
Rare was already shit when microsoft bought it. The stamper brothers make shitty mobile games nowadays.
>>339098759
>OP replying to one gullible retard means he didn't samefag the remainder of the thread
>>339098294
That sounds awesome
>>339098875
>>339098759 is me and I can take credit for responding to like 3/4 of OPs answers with more questions
>>339098853
>Microsoft got mad at Rare for MS fucking up Rare and ruining it's own reputation in the process.
Brilliant.
>>339080071
>>Characters have gone under some minor design changes since Nuts and Bolts, but they retain the same general blocky look.
Fucking why
>>339099107
Like I said Rare was already shit before microsoft bought it so chances are that Rare fucked itself up. The only official statement we have is that Rare themselves said that microsoft gave them too much freedom.
>implying Microsoft would OK this
Rare doesn't do shit without their approval, and 3D platformers are a niche genre today, or comatose if you prefer.
>>339081478
>Grant Kirkhope is back
>Rare HATE Playtonic
bullshit then, since Kirkhope is with Playtonic making Yooka-Laylee
>>339098853
This except for the part where I liked Nuts & Bolts and thought Kameo was decent.
>>339099472
I already elaborated on that
>>339093684
that makes it more hate since most of those new people signed onto a successful team to be left in the shitship
>>339098294
fucking no
>>339082135
>"rip off" banjo kazooie
>they are literally the people that made banjo kazooie
No offense but despite it being Banjo I have no hype for a nu-Rare/M$oft game
>>339099472
Kirkhope is a freelance musician.
>>339099308
But nobody from Rare wanted to work on Nuts&Bolts. The restrictions and MS's telling Rare that nobody wanted those games anymore were not only amazingly off and misguided, but also changed the game for the worse and ruined peoples' hopes for a proper sequel. I think the only ones proud of it were Microsoft. Because it's what they were sure we wanted.
>>339080672
>Also forgot to mention that Grunty is back to rhyming in this game. I know nobody was going to ask that, but I feel like its worth noting.
Lol fake as shit, she already went back to rhyming in Nuts and Bolts.
>>339099859
>But nobody from Rare wanted to work on Nuts&Bolts
>they explicitly stated in interviews that they wanted to make a car game
>>339099871
Did she really? Shows how much I remember.
What was the context for it?
>>339099945
Well she killed her sisters so I guess she saw no further reason to stop rhyming.
>>339099945
>What was the context for it?
Well she killed her sisters in Tooie.
Use this information for your inevitable next thread. It helps if you have a clue what you're talking about.
>>339099859
They themselves wanted to make Nuts & Bolts. Microsoft just always catches the flak for it. Not to say they don't deserve shit flinging, but it should be for shit that's actually their fault.
>>339100004
>>339100071
Its odd that I don't remember her rhyming in NB. Makes sense I suppose.
>>339099925
Of course they did. That's what PR does. Why would you tell your audience that you didn't want to do your game before it's even out?
That would scare everyone away.
But the very opening bit reeks of sarcasm and bitterness. It seems like they wanted to make something much different but were told they can't.
>>339100271
>Why would you tell your audience that you didn't want to do your game before it's even out?
Except this was the Playtonic team coming out about it years later.
>>339100172
>Its odd that I don't remember her rhyming in NB
Maybe it's because all the writing was forgettablelike your thread.
>>339100271
>But the very opening bit reeks of sarcasm and bitterness.
Do you know what self deprecation is? Because a lot of Rare games do that. The end of Conker's Bad Fur Day is the game locking up and Conker blackmailing the programmer into giving him a win button.
>>339091000
Thats why I'm here.
>>339100495
I do but that really doesn't seem like self-deprecation.
If it truly is, it's a bit overkill, isn't it?
It seems like marketing demographics muddied up their beliefs of what kids and players actually wanted and so they HAD to go a different direction, when it simply wasn't true.
>>339080071
I do applaud you for actually being a bit realistic here.
>guy spreads fanfiction to get people to hate Rare again for some reason
ok
>>339101034
Fuck off Rare, I know you're a fucking employee
You're fucking dead to anyone who likes video games ever and it's because you sold out to fucking microsoft
you fucking piece of shit human being
>/v/ acting like a victim of abusive relationships and coming up with any reason not to trust OP
Not saying I believe him but damn
>>339101572
hi OP
>>339080071
>>339080139
POST PROOF PLEASE
>>339101623
>passive aggressive assumption in defense of fiction
>but I don't believe his posts I swear
>>339101671
Why would OP shittalk the company he works for, dumbass
>>339102106
>Making an observation and taking a side are the same thing
You're retarded.
I BELIEVE YOU OP
I don't think a shitposter could have come up with this amount of plausible information and awesome ideas like >>339098294 on the fly.
DON'T BREAK MY HEART PLEASE
Gonna leave this here.
He didn't respond.
>>339098853
I know people shit on Kinect Sports, but people forget how much actual success it brought MS and Rare.
The series won a BAFTA and it sold millions. Not counting KSR. Glad to see Rare are back to making normal vidya again, but I doubt they will ever replicate the commercial success of Kinect Sports.
Just going to throw it out there, OP is full of shit, they're using the same content I used for a fake leak last year
I suggest you write is off as bullshit.
Dont get your hopes up
>>339104959
Link to the old thread? It should be in the archive right?
>>339104910
It was probably the only game that worked well with kinect.
>>339104910
Kinect Sports is what kept them from closing down since all of their games after the Microsoft buy out pretty much flopped.
They can't resort to it anymore, so it's do or die for them.
>>339105063
if archive.moe saved the thread then its gone. Arch.b4k wasnt around when i did that thread.
if you find it good work but i know OP is full of it for copying my text (changing it a little is at least better)
>>339105413
I know you are lying, friend.
>>339105592
you don't realize who that is.
>>339105592
is there another archive that gave a shit about /v/ threads?
i know for a fact archive.moe got it, and then the data failure happened.
it was around november last year. I remember it vividly as i intentionally wasted time by posting about going to eat a bagel
the thread called bullshit too, and they are absolutely right to have done so.
>>339105690
dude, i like that old man
>>339105768
I'm kinda currious because this must be a pretty insane coincidence. What did you say? The grunty thing?
>>339105904
Thats the one thing i didnt get to since i called it quits before getting to grunty
but everything prior to that (at least with a majority being the same as mine) is what i posted about
>>339104307
I have a small theory.
First off, the stuff about Rare hating Playtonic is completely false. The Playtonic guys already stated they knew what Rare was making, and they said they wanted to collaborate with them. I doubt that was Sea of Thieves. And then there's this tweet I quoted.
Microsoft didn't want to greenlight another BK game in the style of the classic ones at all, that's why Nuts & Bolts was made. So to show the Microshit suits that people WANT these kind of games, they needed proof. The first proof they had was with Rare Replay, which was bit hit; the second, Yooka-Laylee.
So what I think the Playtonic team thought was: We get out now, we start anew and make this game. It could show Microsoft that people want a new BK, and the guys at Rare get to make it (they still have Gregg Mayles over there, after all). While at the same time, if people love our game, we get to make the games we want. Win/Win situation. But clearly, staying at Rare wasn't going to make this happen.
>>339106295
All the same questions were asked?
>>339107569
Not all of them but most of them were asked. They weren't as specific in this case because when I did it I made general statements, not narrowing it to specifics. The more you specify the less freedom you have to craft the ruse.
That and it's been done plenty of times in the past year anyway so it's not hard to call bullshit
That and well if I'm to assume that >>339105904 is OP then they already blew it because that post shows they're full of it
>>339092701
My post was like the third one and they didn't even care to include it
