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Chaos shits
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Steam tanks = Sigmar reborn
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>>339058083
>not playing vampire and crushing everyone with infinite skeketon and air superiority
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>empire fighting empire
>"This is what happens when you give too much power to the provinces."
bravo CA
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Also, can we talk about the mods in the workshop?
Any mods you guys are using?
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>>339058083
Hey guys, what heroes can I use to spread delicious vampiric corruption besides the buildings?
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>>339059921
use miss bigtits
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Already got my moneys worth, and I haven't even started any other campaigns than this one.
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>>339059921

What comic is that?
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>>339060456
wait till you start abusing steam tanks.
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>>339060530
no idea, just found it on google.
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>>339058083
Can't decide myself between buying Overwatch or Warhammer. Both games look fun. However knowing CA I'll spend 40 euro on an incomplete game that will release DLC worth another 120 euro, I've even read some shit about TW:W being a trilogy. Help me out.
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>>339061424
they are going to release 2 expansion packs. If you want to play blizzard waifusim, its you call
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>>339061424
It really depends. If you ask me, Overwatch is very short lived. Fun for roughly 10 hours if you enjoy onlin FPS games, but after that you've seen everything. I haven't played TW:W, but based on what I've read it's more than the money's worth.

But whatever floats your boat.
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>>339061761
to add to what he said, mods are already beginning to come out.
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>>339061424
Didnt you try the Overwatch beta? Personally I already decided that I wasn't going to buy it then. Had seen most of it from just that one week of beta with the friends.

I can recommend W:TW though.

But why not both anon?
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>>339061761
I'm big fanboy of both Blizz and TW series so it's really a pickle. I respect the bang for buck conversion so logic says Warhammer but at the same time my brain says to me "CA/SEGA are responsible for A:TW and cutting their games into tiny little pieces of DLCs which combined cost more than 3 AAA games". I get a fucking PTSD when I can't play a faction/unit hidden behind a paywall that costs $10.
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>FIGHT ME NOW, JOIN ME AFTER.
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Anyone like flying in with their pegasus riding wizards and snipe the fucking Vampire count lords?
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My campaign wont load................................
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If I'm empire and I raze a dwarven settlement, can I build on top of it?
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How the fuck do you demolish buildings? Faggot ass raiders took my city and plopped down a building I cant use yet I cant figure out how to destroy it.
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>>339063829
need mod to colonize other race
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>>339063167
did you use any new mods?
>>339063829
use the regional occupation mod on steam
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Cant wait for full bretonnia
Pegasus knights doing tactical drops into the enemy backlines feels great
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Wow the chaos rising of the everchosen was a huge let down.

He rose and started wrecking shit. Luckily I was preparing and took the northernmost dawi hold at the top of vampire territory that was still in the main eastern mountain range through confederation and kicking the humans out. He sent his giant bird fucker at me. "everwatcher" or some shit. Game told me I had zero chance of winning. With some clever footwork a tactical retreat and then an attack from a 1 hero zero unit army to give me another attack I killed it and its massive army of hell spawn and hell cannons. Felt proud of myself until the ever watcher showed up. He managed to raise two cities before my reinforcements I had on the vampire border showed up. I wrecked him like it was nothing, The bird was a bigger problem than he was.

Then suddenly its peace. I'm just mopping up the vamps and warring with the border princes to connect the dawi lands.

Was that really it? It was so built up. The orks gave me more of a problem but that was because there were just SO FUCKING MANY OF THEM AND THEY NEVER FOUGHT THEY ONLY RAN FROM ME THE COWARDS.
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>putting OP banners on steam tanks and letting them run riot on the enemy
best feel
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>>339062118
being a fanboy of blizzard games

what a cuck
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So I am bad as fuck at this game

How do I become good with dwarfs? I Like the play style of firing from range and cleaning up stragglers.
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>>339065279
try getting stout infantrymen to hold the line. against orcs, use quarrelers and grudgethrowers for dps
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How do i get better at troop movements? Videos would be helpful. All my fights de evlove into blobs hitting each other very untactically as I move my range units around.
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>>339065776
your infantry smash into their infantry, have cavalry flank from behind/the sides
send cavalry after archers/ranged, they're typically trash at melee and will crumple
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>>339062118
>I'm a fan of blizzard
>The company who stole every single idea in their latest game from others
>The company that designed every character with pandering to some group or another
>The company that intentionally obscured the $40 version of their game in favor of the $60 version
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How do I defeat the high ground?
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>>339065952
Well yeah I knew that its more like how do i effectively utilize and counter units like skirmishers.
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>>339066147
You cant lu ebin sheev memes ecks deeeeee.
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Why can I never catch enemy armies?
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>playing as chaos on legendary
>get to around turn 100
>event with the advisor fucking you over happens
>have to deal with multiple enemy chaos armies with elite units that all spawn right next to you when it occurs
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>>339066147
Artillery. Turn those hilltops against them
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Chaos is not allowed
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Having a hard time fighting against monsters and shit
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Is someone using mods here?
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>>339066972

Use anti large units
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>>339066972
Spearmen. Or your factions equivilent.
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>>339067084
Does anti large count something like a tank? Could I swarm a tank with spearmen?
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>>339066972
gunpowder and solid shot cannon.
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>>339058083
Haven't played a Total War game in years but I saw this image on Twitter and I just had to get it, enjoying it immensely fun so far
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>>339059708
Don't remember what it's called but I use this camera mod for the battles, it's nice. Other than that I don't plan to use any other mod really until I beat a campaign, so never
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Fucking green skins. IM TRYING TO KILL THE VAMPIRES FUCK OFF.
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>>339058083
I have to admit they really outdid themselves with the endgame crisis

hell, it's not even endgame, and you really have to try to survive to actually win. I played as empire on hard, deliberately avoid marching north and the chaos war effectively lasted half a century with more and more people joining an alliance with me. Because I couldn't really get in range of the chaos warrior stacks, more and more barbarian stacks were roving down south and we only barely managed to survive.

By the time the last chaos stack was killed, 3 varg doomstacks were moving south to templehoff, 3 were sieging up north, and the other barab faction was waging endless doomstack wars with the northern princes. It was only by luck and ordering my allies to chase nearby doomstacks were we able to end the endtimes, and even then the varg doomstacks keep on coming.

S I basically ordered all my allies to crusade up north while I finish off the vampire counts and absorb the lesser imperial states.

The way the map is shaped really makes it feel more desperate; your basically in a bowl of mountains with the only opening being towards chaos, and if you're too busy with chaos then the vampire princes will slowly take over. Early game was me absorbing southern states, vassalising a shit head dwarf faction that kept razing my shit and pushing the vampires out of the central imperial provinces.

Really great game, loving it so far although the imperial army units are literally shit, no joke, just shit.

much funner then vampire cunts, when I played them I just sat and spread corruption while the empire roflstomped the chaos forces
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>>339065973
and it was going to be free
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>>339067637
eh, not even one of the reskins?
I am using one that colors the empire units to altdorf colors and the heavy armor mod for empire units.
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Alright people, does the empire mod that adds plate armored units look good?
>>339067835
sure it was buddy
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>>339064610
if you kill the chaos warriors early it's a pretty easy end game crisis. trouble only occurs if you let the chaos warriors march around for a few turns and then their vassalised barb factions start vomiting out doomstack after doomstack.

So endgame end times is only really hard if you either reave the warriors of chaos alone or are unable tor each them
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>>339066172

Keep the rock-paper-scissors system of the game in mind.
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>>339059120
Heh yeah vampire cunts are so OP. Once you build momentum you can just rush down fools, with every victory bringing you more zombies and skellies that you can raise on the same turn.
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>>339068161
Then whats fucking scissors. Armored spearmen? They cant reacg em.
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>>339067846
I don't have any strong feelings towards the colors one way or another. Haven't actually looked in depth at the workshop yet either so I didn't actually know those were available. I'll probably take another look around at some stuff later. It's my first total war game and I wasn't even super into Warhammer or anything but the game is really fucking cool so far
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>>339068268
he is using vast shogun 2 experience.
>>339068181
of course if you lose, your skeletons disappear
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>>339068181
I always tend to have money issues with vampire cunts because no one wants to trade and there's no real decent economic buildings

but at least the battles with the vampire counts are pretty long, when playing empire it's either a 3 minute chain rout with either you or your enemy routing
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>>339061761
Yeah, not to mention given how much a hit TWW has become, CA is going to be pumping content into it nonstop. If you enjoy the core gameplay it will keep on giving.

Already as it stands there's more than enough to hold your interest for 100 hours
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I'm getting really tired of northern raiders razing my shit and then running away.
Meanwhile I'm trudging along in their lands with 3 armies trying to raze theirs in raid stance at a snail's pace.
How the fuck do these guys not get attrition?
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>>339068464
I just sent my allies up there after dealing with the chaos warriors

you do it via the diplomacy tab, and bottom right is a "set target" function, click on that then click on a barb city and watch as 5 brittonian doomstacks crusade north with some dwarfs and a few imperial princes.

Otherwise, you just have to suck t up and go raid mode
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>>339065279
As the dwarfs, you're going to want to scout out defensible terrain and park all your artillery and ranged firepower there. Use it as a base of operations to advance your melee units, but make sure you draw your opponents to your fortified position.

Never chase as the dwarfs unless you have some helicopters, bc their little stubby legs can't keep up with most units.

Dwarfs are all about holding an enemy army in place with their excellent front line troops and whittling them away with ranged fire.
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>>339068287
I used it because its kinda cool seeing all those neat recolors. If you are new to total war games, you would be interested in knowing that the games are extremely moddable, and provide countless hours of re playability.
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>>339068639
>he has allies
But really brits are bros.
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>>339061424
I got both and am having a great time with both games. Between closed beta weekend/open beta/launch I've put about 70-80 hours into Overwatch and am still enjoying it, but the game can be extremely shitty because of all the bad players. It's a fun game, and I've already got my money's worth and I'm still not done with it. I've only played about 13 hours of TW:W but so far the experience has been fantastic and a lot of fun. I've never really played too much of any of the TW games, but this is the first one I feel addicted to I constantly want to play right after I stop. I haven't really encountered anything that ruined my experience, so it's up to you if you want to deal with the frustrations of online players then maybe get OW, but if you just want a fun game to play solo (I don't play multi unless it's with friends) then I'd say get TW:W because it's really fun.
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>>339065776
Send your main force to hold the enemy in place. If units that get bunched up behind your front line, move them around the edges to flank. Better if you can get them to encircle the enemy
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Any beginner's tips for Vampire Counts? Haven't played Total War since Shogun 2 and Iwasn't very good at it it to begin with.
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>tfw dorfs and bretonnia as allies
>setting coordination targets do jackshit
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>>339068850
>tfw get leoncouer to get his ass moving with the war target.
>instead of taking the settlement he razes it.
dumb faggot.
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>>339068753
I dunno I mean right before chaos end times occurred I had enslaved a shitty upstart dwarf faction who razed my shit, wrecked a ton of imperial pricnes and began to molest brittonia then immediately after the end times occurred everyone began sucking my dick and gagging for me to offer them a confederacy join. I have about half a dozen allies that I literally sent up north to wreck the barbs while I finish off the vampire counts
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I'm just going to wait until the Summer sale. I've already spent too much this month.
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>>339068850
I think they need military access before they move out, not all the time but occasionally they will bug and refuse to move if they have to move through someone else's land

pic related, my based brets and imperials crusading north
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>>339069348
>he let middenhiem survive
Let not a traitor live.
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>>339068838
>>339068838
Get tech that increases your corruption rate in nearby provinces.

Don't be afraid to throw most of your basic units away, they are expendable and easily replaceable.

Invest in their flying units, they are the best in the game.

Fell bats might look useless but they can be essential in a siege to tie up ranged infantry.

Keep pressing west, your target should be the empire and Altdorf.

Once you have spread enough corruption in nearby lands, you can sack and occupy without many repercussions. I like to sack and occupy some cities and raze the rest to deny the empire resources.
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Is it ever the right time to send gelt or whatever gold wizards name is into melee? He once managed to solo a swordsman group but it was sketchy.
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>>339059341
What are you on about? Elector counts fighting other elector counts isn't rare at all.
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>>339059341
First warhammer?
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> start chaos campaign with Kolek Buttraper as my lord
>soon discover he's the most powerful lord in the game
>cut a swath through Norsca, getting barbarian bitches to rally under my banner
>discover that chaos armies can disembark into the sea without any ports
>sail for brittonia raping and pillaging their undefended settlements along the coast
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Is there a mod that allows gifting of cities? Vampire counts took one of my brit bros cities and I took it back now I feel like an asshole holding it.
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>>339068639
Well fuck.
I didn't think I'd need allies.
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>>339070076
>>339070021
its a pretty funny fucking line.
Its like when they reference zombie trivia when fighting the undead.
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>>339070890
Oh it's part of the unit chatter. Sorry about that. Yeah that is pretty funny.
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>enjoy TW games
>not a Warhammer fan
>Not a fantasy fan
>all I really wanted was another historical game, which everyone else is incredibly tired of

Welp, at least all I have to do is wait 5 years for another game.
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What's the MP like?
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>>339071162
Nah, I'm not tired of them, it's why I love these games to begin with. It's just tasteless Warhammer fanboys being faggots and thinking they now speak for the TW fanbase. CA has another team working on a non-Warhammer TW right now anyway, so no need to worry.
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>>339069572
baby steps bruddah

I needed them alive to get raped by chaos, now i'll eat up the vampire counts before simply offering a confederation offer they will accept instantly because lollovesuckingimperialdickwhenchaosoccurs
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I know I'd appreciate the setting and I've bought every single TW game(sans some expansions and dlcs), but I was really rustled by Rome 2 and Atilla didn't do much to help for me.
Is Warhammer worth buying now?
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>>339072497
>orcs running away
deserve to be killed desu
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>>339072497
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>>339072209
See
>>339072497
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>>339072209
Oh yes, it's a significant improvement from previous TW games and the best one since shogun 2
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>>339072497
orcs are ridiculously passive for me in game so far

all they do is rape dwarves and WAAAARGGHHH themselves, as long as I don't declare war on them I'm pretty much guaranteed to have safe borders when I see an orc settlement
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i am hanging for the blood dlc
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SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
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>>339072785
Orkz are only a threat if they get their shit together and stop fighing each other
Otherwise the dwarves can handle them if you're dealing with vamps and chaos
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>>339058083
>played all tw games
>have over 500 hours in rome 2 and 200 in attilla
>to poor to afford total warhammer

kill me now
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>>339072796
I want really to have a few more unit DLC's for the empire, chaos and orc factions

having varying flavors of trash infantry as empire is a bit disappointing t-b-h. I had hoped for a few interesting elite infantry units, but every empire infantrymen is literal shit. I try using swordsmen as my main infantry body and they get shat on, spearmen even more unless I'm fighting brittonia, and halbeard only work against big mobs

the only way to win is to simply swarm the enemy with men or have a godly hero just do all your heavy lifting

>>339072929
as soon as finish off the vampire cunts and wrecked the barbarians to the north I'm goin on a purging spree in the badlands
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>>339059921

I mostly use Banshee/Book of Blood.

I pump out so much corruption I don't worry about it with that passive corruption buff. You should be sitting on so much corruption around all neighboring provinces that they have to sit an army on it or suffer like -10 a turn even with churches.
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>>339072964

Are you even trying?
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I can't find myself a good army composition as empire.
Can anyone post his?
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Is this game at least as good as R:TW?
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>>339073101
Yeah the infantry suck, thing is with empire every unit is used to support another unit.

cavalry is really good with empire.

>>339072929
makes me want to make my own webms, wish i recorded by battle against 7500 skeletons yesterday .

only had 2000 men
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>>339059921
>>339060530
I wish I could remember the name. The next pages have a pissed off Empire Greatswords regiment slaughtering the entire room.
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>>339073373
Yes. The look of the combat is basically the same and both games are fantasy.
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>>339072209
What didn't you like about Rome 2 and Attila? It really depends. For me, this game is a cool Warhammer game for when the mood for that strikes but a really shitty and disappointing TW game that doesn't come close the rest. It got rid of so many great features and advances that Shogun 2, Rome 2, and Attila made and it feels archaic and unsatisfying to play. The campaign stuff is super streamlined and basic, the graphics on ultra are easily worse than Napoleon, there's no matched combat, siege maps are tiny and lame and very simplified, there's no small town maps. Unit variety is great, but units don't have any abilities like shield/pike walls, fire arrows, or wedge for cavalry. Heroes are extremely overpowered and unbalanced. If you want Warhammer flavor, this game does that well but if you want a great Total War in the long run you won't find it here.
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>>339073297
sorry i dident waste more of my life on that copy paste
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>>339073508
So there's actually unit collision in the battles now? And no more "everything stops because of some fags doing a """"cinematic"""" 1v1 on the frontlines"?
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>>339073696
Yes.
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>>339073746
time to buy then
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>>339071726
Wah muh samuwais! -you
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>>339072929
Just like in normal warhammer.
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>>339073603

>the graphics on ultra are easily worse than Napoleon

Yeah this is bullshit and you're retarded even without disagreeing with you wholeheartedly about politics/family trees and why that's fucking stupid in a Warhammer game.
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>>339073810
You should probably do some detailed research before you buy it. I do recommend the game though.
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>>339073681

You obviously didn't spend it honing your English either you Peruvian piece of shit.
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So is it fun?
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Last Total War game I played was Rome 2.

Will Warhammer restore my faith in the series?
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>>339073986
I play Napoleon everyday, that pic is easily on low and definitely not 1920x1080. Nice shitpost. For a 6 year old game, Napoleon still looks fantastic.
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>>339061424
Get both. I got both and don't regret it at all.
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>Spawn hero
>Enemy hero assassinates it the next turn

Every single time.
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>>339074149
Atilla was great man, you missed out


yeah it will. agents are a bit naughty atm but for me it's a great launch and great game. im just hanging for that blood dlc
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>>339074149

Well Attila was the best TW they made until Warhammer came out. There's really no reason to play with the shitty AI of previous games after this.

We can debate all day about good features or themes of other ones but the fact of the matter is there is no reason whatsoever to play with AI that only looks shittier in comparison to what we have now, I wish they'd put it in Rome 2 at least.
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How well optimized is this? got a 280x and a 4670k OC @ 4.GHz
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>>339074310
>>339074332
I grabbed Atilla a while ago, just never found the time to play it, may just boot that up instead then.
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>>339074380
should run like a dream
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>>339074087
Wooh such agresion mate, did i hit nerv?
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>>339074406
Play as saxons.
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>install mod disabling heroes
>have fun
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>>339074806
>not running around with witch hunters and blamming enemy lords
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>>339074806

i dont even know how people are this bad. my heroes get such high level by the time the enemies are any sort of threat.

do you people just leave yourself at -800 income every turn running with needless fullstacks?
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>>339074967
It's also really easy to lvl up agents. Just make them sabotage shit. 0.5 to 1 lvl per turn.
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Bretonnia when?
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>>339075308
>those fucking mountains
nothing like having to deal with genocidal dwarves just to get to those squishy feudal cities
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>>339074485
Really?
Also I'm sorry if this bother you guys but this is my first TW, how hard is it to get into?
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>>339075563
This is my first one. Took me 7 campains and failures to get it, i bet it would take you less if you arent retard like me.
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>>339074967
By the time I can first start spawning heroes I've been seeing enemy heroes for about 15 turns. It's been pretty thoroughly pointed out by a lot of people that the AI gets heroes kinda crazy fast and at high levels.

I started a dwarves campaign last night and my first hero got popped the first turn after I moved it. It just happens.
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I'm on about turn 50 of Vampire Counts normal and one of my lords who I've been sending to sack those dwarf towns south of western Sylvania is now a "dwarf friend" with -5 leadership vs dwarfs. For what purpose?
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These sieges man, at one point I had something like 3000+ men combined running around. Too bad they always seem to follow the exact same formula.
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>>339076185
>they all seem to follow the exact same formula
isn't that like every single total war game?
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>>339074380
>>339076185 is me

i5 4460 @ 3.20GHz, R9 285, works great
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>>339076756
Man, you're tempting me. Please stop.
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>>339076975
I have a fucking rx 8320 oc @ 4.2 and a 280x and runs great.
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I want to play this but I'm waiting to pirate it because fuck paying 60 bucks to play a game that I dont know if I'm gonna like.
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>>339058083
Can I start with Warriors of Chaos and be fine? It says the playstyle is hard. Should I start with Vampire Counts instead?
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>>339077476
Its only hard in the sense that you have no territory and are at war at all times. Chaos has very good units.
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>>339077476
I tried starting twice with dwarves, both times got my shit pushed in by the continuous greenskins WAAAHGs. And it says "initial challenge: easy" for dwarves. Now I'm 100+ turns in with chaos and kicking ass. Maybe it fits better with my playstyle, don't know but I find it a lot easier than the presumably "easy" dwarves.
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>$60 on Steam
>physical version with metal case and some mini-guide is $40 in the nearby store

Gee I wonder which version is more worth it. Anyway, I'll probably pick this up. I'm reluctant to give CA money but this looks good, impressions are good.
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I watched some footage and I have to say, the sounds are fucking amazing, the units, the battle music and the different effects all sound A++. I also got the desire to purge as human, but it sounds like a pretty vanilla boring thing to do, would it be worth it?
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Is the AI at all better?

Does it still have that annoying rubberbanding?
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>>339078825

It is a pretty significant improvement.

I have a hard time going back and cheesing the AI in even Shogun 2 when I know it at least puts up a fight in Attila/Warhammer.
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>>339078823
>Vanilla thing

Ironically empire is the hardest campaign since your expansion options are mainly guided towards saying hello to chaos, raiding vikings fucking your coast or vampires corrupting your shit up

And that not counting when bretonnia decide to fuck your shit
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>>339067832
get tanks, i did skirmish with 19 tanks vs 40 empire and vamps and didnt lose one and killed 3000-4000
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>>339079179

This.

Purging the Nords immediately as Empire is imperative. Fuck those guys.
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How do we improve Bretonnia bros?
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Are the orcs really popular among the people who actually play with the little tabletop dolls? They are in pretty much every 40k game too.
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>>339078825
The AI is the only thing about this game that isn't a huge step back, in fact it's quite good. I'm actually finding myself losing battles to the AI that aren't already stacked in its favor due to overwhelming numbers. It knows how to play now.
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>>339076095
someone had a screen shot of Unlgrim, or whatever the slayer guy, had greenskin friend and hates greenskins.

idk
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>the state of the unit balance in this game
why do they even have stat cards when they're blatantly lying about every single one of them
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Literally what is the point of siege equipment when every unit has it's own ladder and can just punch the gate in?
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>>339060530
Warhammer forge of war, from boom studios.
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>be dwarf
>buy cannons and litter the ground in front of you with a wall of vertically challenged brawlers
>bonus points for ironbreakers who pack more explosives than an arab
>Declare war on the world and sit on a hill
>come back to computer after you stop hearing explosions
>repeat until diplomacy
>accept peace treaty offers coupled with gold
>but more cannons
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>>339081685
The ladders are pretty shit unless you completely outclass what is sitting on that wall.
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>>339081250
This. A unit with better stats in literally everything can lose to an objectively inferior unit in a one-on-one struggle.
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>>339082413
i noticed it hard when i first loaded up the game and picked dorfs and my warriors would get tied up and take 10 years to beat down a group of goblin spearmen, even if i flanked them. and then ungrim barely beating the orc hero you run into in that first battle. there is something horrendously bugged in their battle simulation because if you auto calc it's the polar opposite and you never actually have to fight anything as dwarves due to how much it's skewed in your favor.

chaos are just all around fucking terrible because of this shit too. the fact that chosen get cut to pieces by empire greatswords is really something.
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Does this game fill the Battle for Middle-Earth stitch I'm feeling?
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I usually play other grand strategy games very cautiously but that seems to be disadvantageous here (this is my first Total War game, I usually play 4X games or Paradox ones). Rather than only going to war when I'm 100% ready am I basically MEANT to be always at war with somebody?

Starting with the dwarves I have the entire first province which has enough income to maintain a couple of 16-unit armies but little else. Does the game reward aggressive expansion and risk-taking over playing slower and more defensively?
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>>339083079
It does help early on to basically go 1:1 on income and army upkeep to expand. Otherwise you'll fall behind the other factions who are eating the little guys from the start.
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>>339083079
it's a bit more safe to be a war mongerer in this game due to the races being pit against each other. you aren't gonna make peace with any of the orcs so feel free to go nuts, just make sure you don't overextend as they'll dig under the mountains to come gitz ya. try to make an ally with the dwarves if you can just to get some help as the orcs are quickly going to spiral into a death machine, and even if you can't get them into an alliance they aren't ever going to attack you.
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Just finished the long campaign as Empire after 16 hours, ask me anything.
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Am I the only one who feels like combat is an unfun clusterfuck?
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>>339083452
Try new formations or strategies senpu :)
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The campaign of this seems utterly childish compared to any Paradox game, even EU4.
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>>339083079
the name is total war mate, so you gonna wage wars until you have enough lands and start making weaker vassals,
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>>339083452
it's not balanced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rivp37V75Y
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>>339083294
Difficulty?
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>>339083812
Normal
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>>339083838
>playing normal
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>>339083079

I played as dwarfs and played defensively up north until Archaon showed up, then I wiped out Chaos. All the while, I had 2 armies fucking up Greenskins down south.
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Is there any way to stop the spread of chaos?
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>>339083718
It's even "childish" compared to previous Total Wars which were always much simpler affairs than Paradox games.


>>339082912
I doubt it since that's a way different kind of RTS and Warhammer isn't all that similar to LotR.
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>>339084867
Temples
Temples of sigmar everywhere
2 per province

Gotta pray hard
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pls gift game pls
not poor just scared of regret pls
buy for me
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>>339083838
lmao who gives a shit?
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>>339085260
you can refund it through steam
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>>339085492
pls
wat if I like it
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>>339085560
then don't refund
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>>339084867
What faction? Orks needs Warboss Tents, but I think they all have a building that counters vampiric and chaos influence along with unrest. Also, agents can get an ability that counters it in whatever region they're in assuming you control it.
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>>339085937
Vamps.
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>>339085260
>not poor
Do you really expect any of us to believe that third world kiddie?
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>>339085395
>lmao

kill yourself
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>>339086285
whoa don't kill me with your normal beating skillz :^)
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>kill the vampire scum to the last single handedly, lots of factions want my dick now
>dwarves, bretonnia, and the border realms have all put aside their differences to absolutely stomp chaos with me

Why aren't you playing as the empire? Are you a traitor?
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IMPORTANT QUESTION

Is Archaon in game?
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Denuvo?
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>>339086515
Yes.
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>>339086482
you're sub-normal, should be enough.
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>>339086492

I did this, but as dwarfs. By the time Chaos showed up I had like 7 military alliances.
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>>339063152
>that lovely feeling when their zombies disintegrate
Mmm yes.
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>>339086515
Go open the webm in the op.
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>>339086515

See OP's webm. That's Archaon getting blown off his horse.
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It's shit /v/, like previous total wars but more simple. Hope you didn't buy it.
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>>339086656
I did, I didn't know that was supposed to be him.
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I still can't fathom the unholy alliance between companies to make this a reality.
I would never have imagined years ago this would actually be real.

And that it would actually be good.
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>>339086772

How's this?
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>chaos fucks start doing their thing
>"I'll start moving guys over so I can stop the upcoming siege"
>immediate battle
>even though it was walled
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>>339088459
If they have a single artillery unit they can start the battle
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>>339087830
>assblasted.jpg
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>no torrents on kickass
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>>339085260
Sent :)
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>>339091126
Denuvo. Why would you ever think there would be?
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have you brought fabulous chaos to the world today /v/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skFKNudZuWM
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How quickly does this game get boring? Since the campaign seems to have been simplified I imagine the meat of the game lies in the battles

But don't they all play out the same after a while? Even the battles are just a dumbed down RTS, how long is that gonna be fun I wonder
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>>339092149
>implying overrunning civilization with stacks and stacks of zombies and basic skellies isn't endlessly fun
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>>339058083
have I united the empire yet? I already won the "short" victory and now I'm just mopping up the north of vampires and barbs
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>>339092149
How many hours have you put into other Total War games? Because you'll probably get about the same out of this, maybe slightly less. I'm already at 20 hours played, not bored yet. Haven't even finished my first campaign yet as Orks (turn 100 or so and Dwarfs are stopping my advance). I've also played a bunch of custom battles just to try different shit out (just finished one where I used 40 giants and killed 6000 Vampire zombies and skeletons for shits and giggles)
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>>339092776
A lot into medieval 2 and shogun 2, maybe I'm just bored of total war in general since I've played the past games so much
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>>339058083
I always play with vamps online with carstein on a dragon, at first i would just use the vortex but i just discovered that the magic missile is super OP.

You hit a steam tank 3 times with a magic missle and it gets destroyed
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>I just realized handgunners and thunderers can shoot on one another unlike in other Total War games where only the front rank can fire or in Fall of the Samurai where Kneel Fire exists allowing the first two front rows to shoot
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>>339085492
can refund money go back to your bank account or will it go to your paypal account?
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>>339093546
I discarded gunners at about mid-late game, they simply were too much hassle to position and too weak to get in any sort of scuffle moving them on the flanks.

Instead I just went 2 tanks, 2 rocket arty, while letting my hero do the heavy work on large fools
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>>339059921
By stealing energy.
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>>339091416
Is anyone even trying to crack it? That's the real question.
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>>339063962
Oh god. Sparring fields?
Fucking chaos. I don't think you can get rid of them.
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>play vampires
>its an absolute cake walk
Having free attrition as a defence and being able to kill the AI without even crossing into their borders really makes this faction a bore. Even playing on very hard.
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>>339092771
glorious
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>>339093026
Well, if you're burnt out on it then it probably isn't for you at the moment. Just wait until the mood strikes you to check it out. I guess I never get bored of these games personally, I've put at least 100 hours into each Empire/Napoleon, Shogun 2, and Rome 2 and still love it.
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>>339094475
Play on legendary then, cuck.
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>>339094309
No. Nobody has been trying to crack any Denuvo games since last year because it's futile.
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>my face when I see M'lady in peril
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>>339094691
Isn't last year when that chinese group said they'll sit back and see if Denuvo even does anything? I don't know shitall about crack groups but if 1 big player said to watch I wouldn't be surprised if the rest did the same.

>futile
How so? I genuinely don't get how this DRM is "unbeatable" like the other ones. Can you explain in depth the difference?
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>>339094867
The .exe is protected and can't be cracked. The chinese group gave up.
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>>339094867
In Total War terms, Denuvo is like you playing as attackers in a siege battle with only peasant units and no siege equipment. Impenetrable wall surrounding the .exe.
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>>339095313
Can normal units destroy the gate or do you have to specifically bring anti-gate units and siege equipment?
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>>339095050
>>339095313
So it's a more modern version of SecuROM? If that's the case, wouldn't only be a matter of time before the crackers can unwrap the protection?
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How do you guys handle being outnumbered?
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>my face when the enemy starts pulling quality tactics on me
>mfw the enemy AI is doing continous rotation cavalry attacks
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>>339095468
Its been like 3 years now and no one is even trying to crack it. Maybe in 10 years.
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>>339095731
>3 years
I was under the impression that games like MGSV were cracked relatively quickly?
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>>339095391
Depends which game I suppose, in the recent ones regular units can throw torches to burn the gates, but that's irrelevant because the simple point was that an army of nothing but peasants trying to charge a fortified wall with archers on it will break before they touch it every time.
>>339095468
SecuROM was very different, that shit relied on a flawed system of requiring the internet to verify stuff and thus left itself vulnerable. Denuvo is built into the game, no way around it.
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>>339095561
>mfw the enemy AI is doing continous rotation cavalry attacks

Only took them 15 fucking years. Thank god, though, I hear the AI has improved a lot. Bodes well for medieval 3.
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>>339095840

MGS V used an earlier version of denuvo with an exploit, no such exploit has been found so far in the current version
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>>339095561
it would be better if the non-dwarf battle lines lasted long enough to notice
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>>339095492

how did Obi-Wan defeat Anakin in single combat
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>>339095995

just wait for divide et impera total war edition
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>warhammer sells 500k
>ca never makes a history game again
press f
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DAILY REMINDER TO STOP LETTING THE AI ASS FUCK YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE SCARED TO GO NEGATIVE
THE AI IS RICH
WHICH MEANS IT HAS HUGE GOLD
SACK AND RAID
RAID AND SACK
BUILD A GODDAMN SECOND ARMY YOU COWARD
I'M GOING TO POST THIS EVERY THREAD UNTIL YOU GIT GUD
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>>339058083
I think the map's a tinsy bit too small right now, and the way the geography of the world is made up make the game feel a bit linear; to get to brettonia you have to go through the mountain corridor of dwarves, to get to the badlands again more dwarfs etc etc

I'm pretty sure that will be solved with new expansions I hope they add some more challenging late game stuff as well
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>>339096703
>can't select weather or time of day
>fucking no factions (inb4 it's always been like this or unit roster argument when the meta for this game is 20 units of pikemen)
>500k people bought into the GW meme
FUCKING C U C K O L D S
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>>339096995
>dwarves and orcs in the mountains
>The're actually in the mountains

That's the point
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>>339096995
>instead of warriors coming from north it's daemons popping up wherever the wind blows
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>>339097195
You honestly tried
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>Playing as Dorfs
>Never played a TW game before, it's a slow start.
>mfw Grimgor confederates with 3 greenskin tribes before turn 15.
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>>339097453
DU BEKAR MOTHERFUCKER
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>>339097453
see
>>339096975
TWW plays vastly different than previous titles in the sense that YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO RAID AND SACK SHIT YOU FAGGOT STOP CONQUERING EVERYTHING AND ADDING ELITE UNITS AND COMPLAINING WHEN YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH INVADERS AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THAT ONE ARMY IS FUCKING YOUR INCOME
RAID AND SACK
SACK AND RAID
NEGATIVE INCOME MEANS NOTHING
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>>339096703
took them long enough to tap into fictional settings.
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>>339097252
more like skaven created black death and random skaven hordes bursting out of your capitals if the population surplus is left unchecked.

In all seriousness a skaven crisis event would fuck the empire up massively
>lose 1/3 of population in all cities affected by red pox
>see skaven blob into completely undefended parts of the inner empire


they would be a bitch to deal with

meanwhile tomb kings seem too isolationist to be the big baddy for other empires, and the elves are shitty as well

regardless, after I finish off my hard empire playthrough by raping the northern barbs and genociding some green skins i'll give very hard dwarves a go and see what the crisis event is like then

I only wish there was more time before the crisis occurs, it feels like turn 100 is a bit too soon for a world ending apocalypse to occur, I mean I'm just trying to turtle my ecomnomy for fuck sake
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>>339073505
Can you post the images of that?
>>
Could I get some early advice for vampires? I'm really inclined to focus on buffing one unit (Dire Wolves) but I'm not sure if I'm going about it right


I recruited a second Lord right away, and am occupying a majority of the settlements I capture.

Is that a good idea?
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>>339097612
Nigga I'm sacking shit.

I got 1 lord running around in the badlands raiding and sacking.

But I know that Grimgor's running around somewhere with his doomstack, and it scares the shit out of me.
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>>339097706
>I recruited a second Lord right away, and am occupying a majority of the settlements I capture
> and am occupying a majority of the settlements I capture
STOP
TOP
OP
P
Seriously don't sack and raid settlements you do not have to conquer every single one and if you do you'll get butt fucked by rebels and enemy factions

Use that money to build an economy
Take it slower don't stretch yourself out and get nailed to the wall
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>>339096995
Eh, dwarfs are suppose to be in the mountains.

And Dwarfs are your first line of defense against the WAAAGH.

In future games, the shitty vikings that you know as Chaos will be ant-tier, and when the Chaos Daemon faction shows up you will see what a true beast looks like. Same with Skaven.

Warriors of Chaos are literally kiddy trash compared to the rest of the "villains" around.
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>>339097706
Use zombies as filler and assassinate the enemy general with Spirit Lech. I had one battle where it was down to my general. After the battle, I was able to raise an army full of top tier units.

In other words, don't be afraid of losses.
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>>339097706
take all vampire territory with trash mobs (skeletons/ zombies) while keeping your initial elite mobs alive. Then turtle and spread corruption into the neighbouring provinces until it gets to about 40-50 and then go on the offensive. Try to have one of the two vampire provinces focussing on elite infantry and the other on elite monsters, fuck grave ghouls they aren't worth it.

you won't make much money so make sure that for every elite unit you have at least 5 trash mobs to accompany it
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why are so many threads of this game? so many SS too? i thought /v/ were pirate /v/ros like me.

Its not fair, REEEEEEEE
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>>339097703
>sanitation is reintroduced as counter for nugle and pestilens corruptions
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>>339096092
He had the upper ground.
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>>339097941
>Seriously don't sack and raid settlements you do not have to conquer every single one and if you do you'll get butt fucked by rebels and enemy factions

Might be a good idea to throw a few commas in there, anon.
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>>339097719
Bribe other factions into war to distract him and raze his provinces to the ground and run away like a coward

Never ever ever let the orcs get fighty
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>>339058083
I cant believe how broken empire is
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>>339097957
>Warriors of Chaos are kiddy trash compared to Skaven

Fuck off with your shitty meme race.
>>
>>339098081
Yes indeed

>>339098046
Vidya is a luxury good never forget this
>>
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-27-total-war-warhammer-is-the-fastest-selling-total-war-game-ever
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>>339098075
FUCK NO THANKS M8

I hated sanitation, I would rather have a migration system where "infected" peasant armies fo from an infected town and try's to get into a uninfected town and you have to kill em, I'ev had enough of rebels leading shit tier revolts because they can't poo in loo
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>>339098198
Age of Sigmar confirmed
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>>339096703
Did they really got to 500k?

holy shit that's great.

>finally no more historical trash
We are finally entering into the golden age of gaming. It feels good.

I do want a Shogun 3 though.
>>
>>339098198
Keep in mind that Games Workshop takes a 30% cut on all Warhammer licenses, on top of Steam's existing 30% cut on all digital sales. Might not be that profitable for Sega.
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>>339098382
Fall of the Samurai is better than vanilla Shogun 2
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>>339098382
I can't wait for them to do a lord of the rings total war

>inb4 mod
I mean a current and up to date one, with actual flying monsters and wraiths and shiet
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>>339098248
In all seriousness, he is right. The biggest complain in the total war forums is that there is no sanitation feature like in Attila. So I would guess instead of implementing something unique and cool for Skaven, they will reimplement it for them to appeal to the complainingfags.

Complainingfags literally ruin everything as usual.
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>>339098612
Complaint fags are the worst.

>complain about matched combat since Empire
>CA removes it
>complain there's no matched combat now
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>>339098518
Fall of the samurai should have been in the actual shogun 2 game, not separated.

>>339098580
Nah, Tolkien trash is boring and incredibly simplistic. I think at this point even Warcraft has more lore than Tolkien.
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>>339094691
>>339091416
I've played several Denuvo games pirated. I vividly remember enjoying Dragon Age: Inquistion.

>>339094309
Although it does take some time.
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>>339098757
You're trying to hard. You won't get anyone with that.
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>>339098046
Never once pirated a game, never will. Enjoy your sad existence and no games poorfag.
>>
Sega needs to port this game to consoles.
>>
>GeeDubs figured out that videogames are the future
>proceeds to partner with Activision for Cowadoody: Praise the Emperor
>>
>>339095468
People cracked inquisition within months. It'll take some time.

Interesting there are posters so vehemently sucking off Denuvo. Just another reminder viral vidya marketing starts here.
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>>339098821
That was an early test version of Denuvo. The real thing came out last year and hasn't been cracked since. Nor will it be.
>>
What do you guys want to see for the first race expansion?

An expansion that adds a Brettonian campaign as well as wood elves in Athel Loren is the most obvious first choice.
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>>339098979
>implying cisquisition denuvo is the same denuvo we have now
MGS V was also cracked.
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>>339098896
>Total War
>consoles
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>>339099075
tomb kings to challenge the orcs

skaven to challenge late game empire

elves to fuck with the brittonians

that's about it
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>>339099075
Brettonia as FLC, then Kislev as the first DLC. Map expansions will probably be in expandalones along with Wood Elves.
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>>339099075
Brettonia or Kislev are going to be Free DLC, maybe even both are going to be Free DLC.

They are not part of the expansions, the expansions are covering other parts of the world map.
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>>339098046
Relax bro, we'll pirate it when the bugs are hammered out and a few DLCs have come out. There's so many other great games to pirate in the meantime. Don't confuse one obstacle for the entire world.
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>>339099075
Brettonia are being added for free later this summer.
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>>339099219
I'm hoping to god the expansions get attached to the main map and aren't separate

I want by the end of the expansions a fuck hug theatre
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>>339099284
kek, this delusion
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>>339099381
Yeah I was wondering how they'd do that. Entirely separate games featuring different races and maps etc would be annoying. But how would they fit everything into one game?
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>>339099024
You realize that was said with Denuvo back then? Not sure of your intentions, but you're doing exactly what people like you did back then, embolden crackers to work at it and finally crack it. Making it seem like a challenge will only speed up the eventual cracking.
>>
What difficulty are you guys playing at? Been playing Empire on normal and it's been so easy it's almost boring, slaughtered the vampires by just auto-solving every battle without taking any losses. Is hard more fun?
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>>339099490
Nobody is even working on it you moron. They gave up trying on Denuvo games almost 6 months ago.
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>>339099075
Lustria is basically confirmed to be an expansion if their aim is to cover all the important parts of the Worlde.

So
>daemons
>dark elves
>high elves
>sauros
>skaven

But the next expansion is for sure around Old World. Which would include Tomb Kings, Wood Elves, Araby, Chaos Dwarfs, Estalia, and maybe chaos daemons too while we are at it
>>
>>339099381
>>339099484
I'm hoping it would be as continuous as in Empire's European-Indian theatre. If they have a zone that's "move your units to the old world, next map loads" I'd be pretty pissed.
>>
>>339099219
>>339099252
>Kislev

What's the difference?
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>>339099185
I want to play it tbhh.
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>>339099671
The units that man Chaos artillery are already Chaos Dwarfs, doubt they'll be made into a separate faction.
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>>339099506
I always play total war games on very hard. This game pushed me back to hard. But now I'm pushing the game in Legendary.

its literally impossible in legendary
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>>339099775
Drunk Russian bear cavalry lead by Elsa from Frozen.

They've got some pretty cool units, currently they use the generic Empire roster.
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Stop shitposting, dorks, and post your kingdoms.

What faction should I play as next? Was thinking Empire or Vampire Counts.
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>>339099709
That would be a good way of doing it, but unless they have navys planned not sure how it'd work. Teleporting would be super lame
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>>339099635
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrackStatus/comments/4805du/crack_status_denuvo_games/

You can't believe how easy that was. So why not answer me, what do you have to gain by going in these threads and doing nothing but blow Denuvo? How much are they paying you to do this? Tell me how to get a job and I'll let you go on to spread your lies uninterrupted.
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>>339099951
How easy it is to expand north before Chaos arrives?
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How do I deal with the fucking horseback skirmishers.

Do I just have to use my own against them? Do I have to use archers?

It feels like any unit I send just causes them to continuously run away until they hit map edge, but I cant dedicate full units to that every battle can I?
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>>339099775
The difference with what? Right now Kislev is an Empire clone. You do realize Kislev in warhammer is its own faction with its own units, right?

They are the vanguard against Chaos.
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>>339100113
I don't, I'm a 40kfag.

How are they different?

Are the nearby Xlanders also different?
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>>339100024
If you want a job for starters you should stop posting on 4chan in a friday night, weeb. Not him by the way.

>linking to Reddit
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>>339100062

Fire at them with foot archers

Unless you are playing vamps, in which case use doges
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>>339097706

Rush grab Averland, Wissenland, and Stirland, don't listen to the retard telling you to burn shit you plan to occupy, don't even loot it just take cities that you want and loot the ones you don't, such as Dwarf and Gob shits, which there's plenty to loot.

I turned down an 18k sack right now just because I knew that I'd be paying 9k for that castle back and not making as much money as I otherwise would have if I just occupied. PLUS you get MASSIVE instability hits that will take you MORE time to fix that you could be using to expand.

So don't listen to, >>339097941


He's both gay and retarded.
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>>339067414
WAAAAAGGGHHHHHH
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>>339100298
I wasn't clear. I want a job being paid for shilling on 4chan on a Friday night. Nothing could be easier.
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>>339100024
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>>339100215
Listen to this guy, you don't need to watch the video just listen to him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f-hgy12cu4
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>>339067414
How many armies is that?
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>>339100458
I'm afraid easy jobs are a fantasy.
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Daily reminder there is someone in these threads that wished with all his heart for CA to reach Nippon and Cathay.

Please CA, I will suck all your employees dick.
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>>339100056
Not very easy. There's two dwarf kingdoms in your way, and only two Greenskin settlements north of you, and one of the two is almost always taken by Zhufbar.
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>>339098382
>no medieval 3
holy shit that's not great

i like warhammer as much as the next guy but come on
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>>339099951
Empire
Make The Vamps a vassal
Post results
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>>339099075
lizardmen
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Post LL duels
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>playing Empire, hard difficulty
>taking it slow
>uniting half by force, half by confederacy
>Chaos rises
>vampires in ruins by the time I get there due to Orcs
>colonise all of Sylvania with only fighting one region
>Sweden my way to Kiev's borders
>Chaos has two half stacks left
>kill Archaon and Tzeenches chosen in one turn, win long campaign
Time for very hard Chaos, hopefully I actually have to fight something this time
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>>339100995
>muh medieval
Bleh.
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>>339102015
>he plays a medieval fantasy game
I don't get this level of cognitive dissonance
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>>339102162
That's Warhammer fanboys for you. You'd have to be pretty dumb to prefer this cringey shit to real world history. Especially when the game is such a significant step back from the others in terms of mechanics and content.
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>playing zombies/skellies zerg vamp counts
>mfw I get pyrric victories constantly and have full stacks next turn
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>>339102610
>Warhammer fanboys
Shitposter-kun are you even following the conversation?

>>339102162
Because the fantasy aspect spices up the otherwise boring medieval setting. Rome > Shogun > Empire > Medieval

I don't want a new rome anytime soon though. Shogun was best.
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>>339102720
1on1 me on multi and see how that works, undead fucking shit.

protip: I will always snipe your leader and instantly win the match no matter your setup.
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>>339102862
>Because the fantasy aspect spices up the otherwise boring medieval setting.
So basically it's your opinion that fantasy settings is good.

That's fine and dandy and all but you still haven't explained the "muh medieval" content when you are playing a medieval game with fantasy elements.
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I loved the fuck out of shogun 2

is this game worth getting

i remember hating the mongol one because every other unit was horse archery and it was fucking annoying
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>>339103095
>every other unit was horse archery and it was fucking annoying
Welcome to what dominated warfare for a very long time.
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>>339103095
Yes

Get Fall of the Samurai, Rise of the Samurai is dogshit
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>>339102984
>implying I'm playing multi
please
I'm living out my boyhood dreams of having a game where I can sweep the world of the living away with a vast multitude of shambling zombies
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gSJW3sHXE

Chaos rules.
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>>339103095
Only if you like Warhammer because it's only good for that flavor. It's a pretty shit TW game otherwise.
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>>339103063
>muh medieval elements
They are as relevant as RPG elements in other games. No one cares.

Shogun 3 when.
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>>339103095
Its pretty good. You will enjoy it. Ignore the shitposters, they haven't even played the game, and even if they did they are medieval 2 fags mad that their shit game is shit and no one likes it.

TL;DR Its good get it and have fun
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>>339103404
>They are as relevant as RPG elements in other games. No one cares.
Warhammer is a medieval setting with a arguably decent focus on FANTASY elements, lad.

And every fantasy element can be said as "muh" if you're going to continue with your dismissive discourse that doesn't contribute anything meaningful to the discussion.
>muh evil corrupt humans
>muh pale corrupt undead humans
>muh short humans
>muh bread and butter human empire
>muh pointy ear forest humans

I don't understand why you would consider medieval content in a medieval setting to be irrelevant.
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>>339103404
>It's a "weaboo dismisses western crap in favor of eastern crap" episode
Byzantium 1 when?
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>>339104021
>Its a /v/ strawman episode
What a day.

>>339103810
All those muh sound a shitload better than
>muh medieval setting
lol how fucking boring.
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>>339104176
>All those muh sound a shitload better than
The whole point of the muh fallacy is to trivialize content in a game or media. To say that different kinds of humans is better than blatant humans is simply being contrarian for the sake of it.

>lol how fucking boring.
Nice, it's almost as if you're implying fantasy settings can never be cliche and boring with the same races and same tacky politics used with them.

It's painfully obvious if not already before that you are not willing to defend your opinions. You've might've spent too long on /v/ today, my friend.
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TOTAL WAR: WARHAMMER 40K WHEN

FUCKING WHEN
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>>339104528
It is obvious than different kind of humans is better than blatant humans. What kind of shitter would disagree with that? Maybe some nazifuck would.

I have been on /v/ all day, "friend" (who talks like that? kek)
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>>339104637
>squad-based combat in Total War
>ever
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>>339104814
>pointless mocking
>kek
>Godwin's Law
Excellent discourse, it's obvious the Warhammer series brought intelligent, rational players into the TW fanbase, what kind of shitter could disagree?
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>>339104637
Never? 40k doesn't work in a Total War style.

Stick to Dawn of war. They are literally 40k tabletop into a videogame.
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>>339104637
Never, because its retarded and the complete antitheses of Total War. Because the entire point of Total War is ranks of troops which doesn't work with the squad system of 40k.

Seriously, I see this suggestion so often and I honestly think its retarded.
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>>339105059
>thinks I have played the entire series (From Shogun 1) in the span of 2 days
"Friend" (lol), I have been here before you even came to 4chan.
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>>339105151
40k fans are known for being stupid, its like our medieval2 fans.
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>>339105196
>I have been here longer than you!
Good job! Want a cookie for posting something you literally can't prove? You don't need to play every game to be able to not have a public dialogue lower than a 14-year-old's, but hey, just keep repeating memes that your fellow funposters parrots when they don't have anything that requires critical thinking to say!
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How is the game? Is it broken at all like Rome 2?
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>>339105367
You sure showed me with that assmad post of yours, my "friend" (lmao)
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>>339105686
>he thinks I'm upset over literally nothing
I don't understand my acronym-using newfriend, why would you keep making posts that prove me right?
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>>339099939
>Drunk Russian bear cavalry lead by Elsa from Frozen.
i never knew how much i needed this
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>>339070381
>tfw I fought Kholek turn 40 as Empire
>my army was two times bigger
>none survived

I was pleased. He is basically a T-Rex wearing armor and using a hammer the size of a dump truck after all.
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>>339105402
Its good like shogun 2, some even said rome 1 since it doesn't have the stupid "cinematic" 1v1 combat where everyone stares at each other.
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When's the last day to get the Chaos?
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>>339105854
>if you reply to me I win!
Oh, sweet little child. How does it feel to be 5?
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>>339105986
So worth buying now to get the Chaos? Does it perform well and look gorgeous like everyone says?
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>Coop mod that CA were promoting doesnt even work
Well done CA, well done.
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>>339106219
>>if you reply to me I win!
Yes, that appears to be your goal. Is getting (you)'s from 1 guy in a thread on /v/ around midnight a part of your master plan?
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>>339103273
>It's a pretty shit TW game otherwise.
It is literally the best TW game by far, regardless of its setting.
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>>339106370
I have been playing coop since release day, stop lying.
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>>339106569
>Quests dont work
>If you confederate with the other LL, game will get permanent crash
>if the AI confederates with other LL, games will permanently crash
>playing a mod where your savefile is a ticking time bomb
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>>339105910
Best part about fantasy is the sheer number of human factions and how few fucks GW gives when it comes to the obvious stereotypes they are.
>Kislev is !notRussia with bear cav
>Cathay is !notChina with shen-lung dragons, giant stone dogs, and monkey people allies
>Nippon (FUCKING NIPPON) is !notJapan with samurai and ninja skaven
>Araby !notArabia with scimitars, elephants, and flying carpets
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Mankind
Just like imperial guard regiments, there is so much variance in mankind its great.
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>>339106330
I wouldn't call it gorgeous, but it does run quite great. Nevertheless some people have had issues, but they are the vast minority and most of the time computer illiterate.

Some posts itt that you can read about specs are here and the guys that replied to him
>>339074380
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>>339099484
>>339099381
the maps will slot together with each new expansion
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>>339106676
>using mods at all
I haven't gotten a single crash.
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>>339106991
Good for you, no one cares.
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>>339107182
You care enough to post :^)
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>>339107495
No one cares about your particular irrelevant circumstances

I do care to point out how stupid you are however, as it amuses me.
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>>339107579
The irony.
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>>339106825
Sounds like they're just cosmetic changes and not a whole lot of change.
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>>339083838
>normal
You can win pretty much every single battle by just pressing auto resolve

>>339099907
>tfw restarded my campaign and started playing on my hard empire campaign, just spent 20 turns fighting a 3 front war against Marienburg, Vampire Counts and the Nordland/Midenland alliance. Managed to conquer both Marienburg, Middenland and Nordland, and I managed to fuck the vampires up so bad they fled back to their shithole known as Sylvania.
Much more satisfying than normal aswell since I couldn't auto-resolve everything.
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>>339107943
It would only be ironic if I was stupid, which I am not.

Which in turn is ironic since you dont know how to use the world ironic.
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>>339108008
I bet you think brettonia and the empire should be one faction.
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>>339101927
Grimgor iz da best!
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the only RTS i've ever played and enjoyed was AoE 2, will I like this? Will it be hard to get into?
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>>339108112
>pushing north into Nordland
>not just fucking up south and eastward so you can smash the Vampire Cunts and let Kislev, Nordland and the other traitor provinces deal with Chaos
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wanna play this game but its overwhelming
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>>339108126
The irony has now skyrocketed.
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>>339108610
No. This is the only game I have ever refunded on steam.
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>>339069572
>>339072170

>Middenheim
>Traitors

Literally not understanding the Empire.
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>>339108759
Pfthaha. Its sad you dont know how irony works.

Reply again though, prove you're a moron.
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>>339099381
Why do they even bother with bigger map when you can't expand beyond your own regions? I am stuck with the Bretonnia as VC after the Empire is gone. All the dwarf and orcs around me is dead and I don't know what to do know.
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>>339102000
Prepare to cry
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>>339108610
This isn't an RTS, casual.
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>>339108702
There's nothing left of the vampire counts, after I defeated their armies Stirland took Sylvania, Talabecland doesn't exist, Ostland and Ostermark took it.
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>>339099951
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>>339109574
I still see another faction on that map anon, you havnt won yet.
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So I haven't paid much attention, is this game actually any decent?
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>>339109683
Well its my goty so far
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>>339086492
The chaos invasion also helped me a whole lot. Got me military alliances with all the empire provinces, a few of which I absorbed into a confederation, and I took up ruined land left by the chaos forces. I also beat up Archaeon fairly easily due to me having three armies. After that I just took out the vampires and achieved victory. Every human and dwarf faction loved me and even if they didn't they had let me become too powerful to do anything.

Empire faction is top-tier.
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>>339109683
Yeah it's alright. Not a huge fan of the setting though.
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>>339109667
Norse bros can live.
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Now this... this is WAR!
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>>339109683
Its great without the setting, the setting makes it goty.
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>>339073316

>franz, 5 swordsmen, 5 armoured spears, 5 crossbowmen, 4 empire knights/reikguard.
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>>339110136
>no demigryphs

its shit
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>>339109941
Press 'k' and show me what happens after that screenshot.
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>>339108730
honestly, boot up Shogun 2 first.
Thats probably the best installment of the series to learn how to play it in an enjoyable fashion.

you can pirate it play a campaign or 2, then move onto this one once you get the basics of Total Warring.
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>>339099075

>tfw almost no one gives a shit about lizardmen

they'd be sick tho
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>>339110334
I enjoyed Shogun 2 a shit ton more than I thought I would. FOTS was even better
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The best unit coming through.
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>>339110445
I know nothing about their lore beyond that they are the chosen ones by the Old Ones to destroy every other race.

Also that they are having huge issues against the vampires in their continent because they have no weapons against them
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>>339099782
>playing a strategy game on consoles

It's literally the dumbest thing ever. Not even one of those platform war faggots, Strategy games just belong on the PC.
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So, my first and only TW game ever was Shogun 2, and it was pretty easy tbdesu

How's the combat here? I remember all you needed to do was to spam the samurais and to have at least 40% archers to mow them down and you would beat anything in any difficulty. You would also automatically win if you had the portuguese guys with the guns or the cannons.

Should I get this and what are some good tips of how this changed from Shogun 2?
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>>339110952
Well, nothing is similar to Shogun 2, and yes you should try this one.
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Playing dorfs, how do I deal with mounted archers?

This is fucking shitty
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>>339099252
What does Brettonia get that the Empire doesn't get?, Bright Wizards and Clerics?
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Is there Skaven
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>>339111751
Brettonia is like a cookie-cutter medieval faction while the Empire is more steampunky with all those tanks, guns and shieet
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>>339111849
If that's the case id rather play Brettonia than the Empire since I like the classic units and the Empire stuff isn't really my style.
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>>339111837
Not yet but already announced. Skaven is a memerace anyway.
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>>339073603
>the graphics on ultra are easily worse than Napoleon
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>>339111682
Shoot them
They're basically flimsier, faster archers
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>>339111751
Everything. The human factions are different for a reason. They are all massively different in culture which gives way to differing strategies of warfare. The Empire is industrial revolution germany but with feudal politics, with guns and steam engines. Brettonia is feudal France. They have a culture that glorifies nobility to the point of godhood and instills serfdom upon the peasants to the point where they're the property of the nobles whose land they work. They are extremely cavalry oriented with no guns or advanced engineering. They rely upon the Lady of the Lake with her Holy Grail to bestow superhuman abilities to knights worthy with conscripted crossbowman to make up the difference.
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>>339108730
Warhammer is probably the easiest Total War to get into. The campaign map may seem complex at first but it's shallow as fuck. Just keep playing and you'll get used to it.
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>>339112029
SKREEEEEEEEE
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>>339109440
Half of the game is RTT, no need to get all autistic about semantics fuckboy.
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>>339112034
They are tho, the models look good but the lighting and particles are terrible
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>>339112013
Brettonia are french Franks from Rome 1: Barbarian Invasion combined with UK in medieval times. They have the best cavalry ever.

They also serve The Lady >>339094728 instead of The Emperor.

Because they are also King Arthur style. Their knights literally seek a holy grail and then become Captain America tier of superhumans.
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>>339074616

Why?
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>>339074332
>there is no reason whatsoever to play with AI that only looks shittier in comparison to what we have now
>I wish they'd put it in Rome 2 at least.
Mods are a thing anon.
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>>339112687
>modding
>ever
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>>339112796
Is there a problem? There are plenty of mods that improve the AI in every total war game you could want to play.
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>>339112687
>just copy paste the ai folder into your rome 2 folder dude.

AI is hardcoded.
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>>339112796
t. consolecuck
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>>339112961
Mods are for fags. Its not the way the devs intended you to play the game.

Its like cheating at your gf.
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>>339113015
>AI is hardcoded.
There have been shitloads of mods that alter the AI's behavior. Remember Darthmod and it's whiny fucking creator? The new AI behaviour was the entire point of his mods for Shogun 2, Empire and Napoopan. Educate yourself.
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>>339113071
>Its not the way the devs intended you to play the game.
I know, it's better.
>>339113015
This is false.
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After that fiasco that was Rome 2 I wonder how good is this game?
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>>339113336

bretty gud
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>>339113336
It's a very solid release, but they streamlined the campaign map a great deal. It's not pretending to be a grand strategy game anymore, focusing more on battles between diverse factions.
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>I keep giving up as soon as I encounter some difficulty

>playing as dwarfs
>Grimgor comes over with a doomstack and wipe my army out
>close game

>chaos
>3 stacks of 20 from the window northlings fucks come meet me right after I managed to barely beat the 20 stack of dwarfs in the village at the beginning

please help
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>>339061424
Go play overwatch we don't want more casual retards within our community
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>>339113525
Just force yourself to keep playing. You can bounce back from minor setback, it will just take a few turns.
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>>339113525
On my very hard run I was able to take over every single dwarf hold, and beat back Chaos both times

And this is how I looked at turn 18

It doesnt matter how shit you start as, you can always recover
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>>339113465
>but they streamlined the campaign map a great deal. It's not pretending to be a grand strategy game
Epic bait
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>>339113821

>st-stay out normie
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>>339113525
>playing as Dwarves
>take over the Silver Way
>Just chill, make assloads of money and decide to build up my defenses before venturing out
>Take way to long
>Greenskins build up a vengeful force of a WAAAAAGH the likes of which this world has never seen
>Doomstack from Grimgor, another stack from another Lord, and 3 WAAAAAGH armies
>Turtle the fuck up
>Try to take them out one stack at a time
>Fail
>get my ass kicked back to Karaz-a-Karak
>make a defense of the gods, only 35% chance of winning
>Barely make it out by the skin of my teeth with scraps left
>2 Orc Lords die and Grimgor gets hurt
>Rebuild and mop up

It's the waiting game really. Tough it out, anon.
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>>339113986
How is that bait? That's actually true.
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For a guy who has only played shogun 2 and liked it should I get into this game. It looks fun as fuck, I don't know much about the war hammer mythos though. I do know about ORCS and wahhh but that is because of 40k. Any who will I be able to play as Orcs? Can I just WAhhh my way through the entire campaign. Or am I only stuck as humans?
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>>339113986
>implying the warhammer campaign map isn't shallow as fuck
Granted, Total War games have always had pretty shallow campaigns, but Warhammer strips out damn near everything. And just so we're clear, I'm not shitting on the game master memer, just letting someone unfamiliar with the game understand how it plays.
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>>339114124
>>339114209
I LOVE this bait
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>>339113843
>>339113901
>>339114081
alright I'll give it another shot tomorrow, thanks guys
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>>339114209
>Total War games have always had pretty shallow campaigns, but Warhammer strips out damn near everything
People keep saying this, and cant point to a single damn thing to prove it

All I can see gone is family trees, which have literally never done anything for any TW game. At best it allowed you to marry a daughter to a family, which you could only do if you already had positive relations anyway, making it pointless.

Bitching about 'simplified' campaign in a series where the campaign has always been there out of necessity rather than enjoyment is stupid.
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>>339114282
>I was just pretending!
Your bait hooked me. Well done.
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>>339114417
Oh so you admit you were just pretending. Thank you and goodnight.
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>>339114414
>All I can see gone is family trees, which have literally never done anything for any TW game.
So you've never played Attila or any previous Total War game? Faction politics were a huge thing, just because you ignored them, and were apparently shit at them, doesn't mean they don't exist.
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i love tww, it will become GOAT with patches and expansions
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>>339114494
Keep posting that bait. It tastes good.
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>>339114194
Playable races in campaign are: Orks, Empire, Chaos, Vampire Counts, and Dwarfs. So yes, you can play Orks and waaagh to your heart's content (it's actually a mechanic for them in game too). That said, this game is nowhere near as good as Shogun 2. Actually lacking a lot of things that game and Rome 2 had and is worse off for it. Only worth playing for the Warhammer setting if it interests you
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>>339114521
Faction politics was an absolute joke in all other TW games, including Attila. Just because you could spam gifts and get a defensive alliance from it doesnt make it good politics. And you can still do faction politics in TWW so you have even less ground to bitch.

Go play a real GSG. And not that its any of your business but iv played every single TW game.
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>>339114194
Game has tiny bit of lore quests for you to get familiar with.

anything else you have lots of fans here on /v/ if you want to know more.

The unfamiliarity with the setting is a non-issue. Just be open minded about the game.

Its called WAAAGH!, with 3 a and gh!, otherwise its mispelled. Also yes you can, see:
>>339067414

I think you are gonna enjoy the game, but then again I ain't you.
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>>339074193

>I play Napoleon every day

Autism?
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>>339114627
>That said, this game is nowhere near as good as Shogun 2.
hello historyfag
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>>339114414
The building chains and settlement management are overly simplified. If you didn't notice that you might have brain problems.
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>>339114627

Muh. No a big fan of war-hammer. Might wait for a sale then if you are saying its less in depth then Roam or Shogun. I really did enjoy all the side activities you could do in shogun and that was my favorite total war title.
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How do you economy with dorfs? All their buildings require a really large settlement and you're only stuck with one for most of the time.
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>>339098892
Good goy. Dont forget to buy dlc too!!
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>>339114521
>Faction politics were a huge thing
No it wasn't, and even less so in Attila.

Attila was nothing but vikings vs barbs vs sassaniggers vs huns vs romans vs clets. Thats it. There was little to no diplomacy outside of the prebuilt NATOs.

>>339114763
All TW games have simplified building, the difference between all of them is negligible at best and laughable at worst.
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>>339113525
>>339114389
There's no lose condition for Chaos other than having no armies left, so feel free to take all the time you need
Personally I avoided the dwarves until I did a whole lap of the north, uplifting the tribes, raiding and building up a second stack. By then the first tribe I uplifted had corrupted the dwarf area and worn it down

Basically the playstyle of Chaos is 'run away from armies, raid and raze villages until you can fight them'. Villages you raze never ever recover. All you need is time, corrupting agents and campaign movement skills and retinues
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>>339114678
No, anon. INTERNAL faction politics. Avoiding civil wars, maintaining loyalty, shit like that.

>Go play a real GSG.
Learn to read anon. I've already said that lacking these things is not a bad thing. Cease your autism.
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>>339114194
Don't listen to >>339114627 . He has been shitting on the game all thread long.

Warhammer is competing to be the best TW game we have ever had. Also they are orcs, not orks. He is a 40k baby, ignore him.
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>>339114910
>Avoiding civil wars, maintaining loyalty
Literally the same thing. And by "avoiding" civil wars you mean spamming influence points on generals who are low on loyalty, or sending them to their deaths and spawning new ones. It was at best a fucking annoyance, it was not a good gameplay feature and it did not add any depth to the game.

Wow, such depth, such amazing gameplay!

>Learn to read anon. I've already said that lacking these things is not a bad thing. Cease your autism.
Oh good so now you're just backtracking to save face.
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>>339114902
>No it wasn't, and even less so in Attila.
see >>339114910
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>>339066929
Where's your giant spider?

Could have saved you losing like a thousand troops.
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>>339114962
>>339114194

Whelp. It seems that anon might be a faggot and lied to me. Really leaning both ways here, rare you get to see real vidya talk on this board. Might just bite the bullet and buy it. All the screen shoots look fun as fuck.
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>>339114910
>INTERNAL faction politics. Avoiding civil wars, maintaining loyalty, shit like that.
Civil wars are in TWW

Maintaining loyalty in every single TW game = send that general in a 1stack to his death or spamming influence points in Attila.
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>>339114859
Sack the greenskins. Show those gits who is the boss.
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>>339115093
>Oh good so now you're just backtracking to save face.
It was in my second post in the thread, before you even dragged your retarded ass into the conversation.

see >>339114209
> And just so we're clear, I'm not shitting on the game master memer, just letting someone unfamiliar with the game understand how it plays.

Reading can broaden your horizons anon.
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>>339115110
I see it, and its wrong. Where is this dumbed down campaign you keep prating on about? Because all I see is more depth and less tedium in TWW.
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I'm so fucking hype for expansion already and I'm not even finished with my first campaign.
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>>339115230
So not only are you backtracking, you didn't even address my points as I pointed out how idiotic you are claiming its simplified when the "complexity" you think is missing literally equals

1. Spamming influence points
2. Killing generals

Wow anon, you really are convincing everyone in this thread that TWW is simplified. Not.
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>>339115240
>more depth
Building chains are overly simplified. There is no family tree or management of royal family. These are facts. Now you'll just backtrack and say they don't matter like the little bitch you are.
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>>339115330
Get a dictionary. Look up what backtracking means. Not once have I ever said that lacking these things is bad. Good luck with your life anon. You're going to need it.
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>>339115314
They want every fucking faction that exists to be playable during all of the expansions. I am so hype.
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>>339115336
>Building chains are overly simplified
How? Please point it out. Other than sanitation, a feature that makes zero sense in TWW until Skavern get released.

>There is no family tree or management of royal family.
As people have already pointed out >>339115330 >>339115093
They were irrelevant to the campaign

So where is this simplified campaign you speak of?
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>>339115450
yeah sega would only fund them for 4 playable races, so they have to do the rest for dlc
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>>339115314
This, its rare a game actually makes me want to get more. I don't even remember when was the last time I felt like this.
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>>339115131
The first anon isn't lying, I love this game but as far as Total War games go it takes a huge step back in almost every category of features, mechanics, and content. If you like Warhammer, for fuck's sake buy it and see, you can get a refund if you don't. But it is lacking and it is streamlined. There's no way around this and for some reason one really butthurt anon always comes into these threads to try and bury any discussion to that fact (paid shill? fuck if I know, that seems unnecessary at this point though and counter-productive when people can discover for themselves that he's lying just by playing).
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>>339115407
Feel free to address my points rather than shitposting, Ill wait.


We both know you wont though, you have no grounds to argue and have given up.
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>>339115515
Well, 6. Bretonnia and Chaos I feel like count as vanilla.
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>>339115567
Hello samefag, how is the shitposting spree today?

Look, we all know you are salty that the head designer for CA said he likes fantasy more than history, but you really have to stop shitposting int these threads.
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>>339115450
They said they wanted all 16 major factions, not every single faction. Having every minor faction would take at least another whole expansion, maybe even 2 since all the human variants also have different monsters, cavalry, and whole different troop orders in some cases.
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>>339115489
>They were irrelevant to the campaign
This is completely wrong.
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>>339115660
Really? Because as that anon pointed out internal strife = spamming influence points, which is entirely true.
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>>339101237

>making it impossible to attain long victory
>getting your shit corrupted indefinitely

Sounds legit.
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>Finally conquer all of the badlands
>Spend another 50 turns consolidating it by quelling rebellions and chaos uprisings
>Dwarfs are now 1 in strength ranking
>Archaon has sacked most of the empire shit I can see

Fuck.
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>>339115626
yeah I forgot how many there were, I'm loving the game so far. I fucked up and captured a bunch of settlements way too early on so I'm fighting a pretty shaky campaign right now.

sucks it runs like shit for me
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>>339115336
Not him or them or whatever but seriously family trees were fucking worthless, and even more so in this game.

I hope you don't think 100 turns are 100 years in this game. Time passes slower than in Shogun, which was 4 turns per year. No one is gonna die of old age here.
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>>339115660
>its wong cos i say so!
Yeah, no. Attila is the most "complex" TW game and its on par with TWW for depth anyway, where features are missing for one they get made up for in other areas.

Plus this is all ignoring the main fact that TW is a game about its combat, not its shitty campaign mode. If the best thing you faggots can complain about is "simplified" campaign (even when its not) then you have literally nothing to complain about.
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>>339115571
Cheesing the loyalty system doesn't mean it suddenly stops existing. Warhammer doesn't have it. This is a fact. You have no ground to stand on and you whine about backtracking, trying to redirect from the facts, because the facts are killing you. You feeling ok?
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>>339074780
>30

I bet.
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>>339115909
>using the loyalty system as its intended to be used is cheesing
So you admit its literally worthless and has no impact on the game.

There we go, even the shitposter admits it. No more replies for you.
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>>339115658
16 major races will come in expansions that actually expand the map.

The minor races you speak of will be DLC. And some DLCs are confirmed free already.
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>>339115909
>Cheesing the loyalty system doesn't mean it suddenly stops existing
How the fuck is spending the influence you get to avoid the issue of loyalty "cheesing" the fucking game? I really fucking hope you are trolling and not actually this stupid.
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>>339115982
>still can't read
One day anon. You'll make it, I know you will.
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>>339116059
That's not what I was talking about and you know it. Keep backtracking little bitch.
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>>339115909
>Cheesing the loyalty system doesn't mean it suddenly stops existing.
Are you actually retarded. Thats like saying using hammer/anvil is cheesing the game.
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>>339115909
A feature just because exists doesn't mean its good.

cinematic 1v1 combat was awful
naval combats were awful
royalty family was awful
family tree is awful in every game that isn't Rome

This is fact. Not him by the way.
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>>339116141
>>339116059
>>339115982
>samefagging to save face
You ok anon?
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>>339116134
You said
>>Cheesing the loyalty system doesn't mean it suddenly stops existing
Saying that spending influence points to stop generals rebelling = cheesing. The very fucking feature you claim TWW is shit for not having in the first place.

So you are trolling then? Please say yes, because if not I honestly dont think anyone on earth can help you.
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>>339115650
The only shitposting in this thread seems to be you. I can tell you're the same guy trying to argue with the other anon about campaign map and diplomacy features and nothing you've posted has been anything other than bait and ad hominem. Grow the fuck up and stop dragging these threads down you crybaby faggot. Whether you're a shill or just a Warhammer fanboy that takes criticism of the game too personal doesn't really matter, you're being a faggot regardless and I think I speak for the rest of us trying to enjoy the game and share stories when I say just fucking stop.
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>>339116227
>i-ill call them samefags, t-that will work!
I love how you only started saying 'save face' after that other anon said it. You obviously are mad you got so BTFO.
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>>339116243
It's not that hard to follow a reply chain. Maybe the reading part is hard for you, but I have faith in your ability.
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>>339116258
Whoa there calm down shitposter, no need to get so upset that everyone in the thread thinks you're a moron.
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>>339116308
You ok?
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What the fuck am I supposed to do about Grimgor Ironhide early on? Almost every time I start as dwarves i conquer the silver pass and complete the first quest battle only to come back to meet that nigh unkillable motherfucker with a full army marching into the center of my territory
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>>339116332
Ignoring the point and using memes, so you are trolling. Thank god.
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>>339116258
You can give it a rest anon. The thread will close soon and you won't have to shitpost so wildly to cover your butthurt.
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>>339116258
That anon you are replying to is right, and the anon he is replying to is the cancer of these threads.

I bet the guy he is replying to is actually you.
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>>339116427
Use the ambush stance, or upgrade a lord with the underground passage interception skill.

Both give you a good advantage over his army.
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>>339116467
I wasn't talking about influence points and you know it. Read anon. It can change your life.
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>>339116384
>>339116490
>>339116513
You know I can see you're samefagging right?
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>saying the campaign in Warhammer is streamlined is shitposting
Why are you fags so touchy about that? It's fucking true. Doesn't mean it's bad, it's just a fact.
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>>339116662
>poster count increased
>below 1 minute for posts
Newfag, historyfag, and an idiot. What a combo.
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>>339116662
>all posted within 1 minute
I mean come on son. What the hell are you even trying to pull here?
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>>339116730
You can samefag all you want, its not going to help
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>>339116730
no, you don't get to build sanitation buildings and goat pens. Doesn't mean it's streamlined.
Vampires recruit at the site of major battles. Dwarves have grudges that need to be settled on the campaign map.
Orcs have the fightiness stuff that gives you doomstacks
Empire is somewhat shallower but you get far more diplomatic options
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>>339116730
Seems like it's just one person doing it, but he has derailed and destroyed the last 2 threads over it exactly like this. I don't get why.
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>>339116730
Streamlined is okay, that other wording the shitposting nerd used is not.
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>>339116730
It's just regular /v/ autism. One fag takes a post the wrong way and slings shit angrily. The other anon, even knowing it was a misunderstanding, responds in kind. More shit gets slung on reflex and then here we are. It's mutually assured destruction of the 4chan variety.
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>>339116887
>no, you don't get to build sanitation buildings and goat pens. Doesn't mean it's streamlined.
That's exactly what streamlined means you fucking retard.
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>>339116929
You are just mad because he was right though.
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>>339116929

>that cel over background

QUALITY
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>>339117019
I'm not either of the autists. But I know you're one of them.
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>>339116894
he wants the (you) drug
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>>339116991
Not really, sanitation buildings were terrible. I hope they never come back.

I felt I was fighting myself more than fighting the enemies. This is Total War, not Total Democracy.
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>>339117117

What in your mind do you think streamlined means?
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>>339117117
> sanitation buildings were terrible.
I agree, but them being terrible has nothing to do with the meaning of the word streamlined.
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>>339116897
>that other wording the shitposting nerd used is not.
Simplified?
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>>339117117
>>339117117
This. People need to understand that sometimes devs fuck up and add features that are detrimental to their modus operandis.

As one of the few people that actually started playing games with Shogun 1, and I actually bought the expansion Mongol Invasion. The campaign map was always a way to produce more units, not about keeping your meme peasants happy. All features CA implements should be directly leading into Total War.

I will never forgive them for going 3D in the campaign map though, chess campaign map was miles better. So fuck them for that.

The diplomacy options in Shogun 1 were laughable in a good way, you would get betrayed and fucked in the ass in less than a year after the alliance was formed. Loved that game.
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>>339117117
>Not really
Yes really, that's exactly what streamlined means you idiot.
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>>339117484
>>339117184
>>339117176
All me :^)
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>>339117646
>less than a minute apart
Nice try retard. Get a fucking dictionary.
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