No one actually considers using longswords do they? It's a clear sign you're a scrub and have watched too many episodes of Ruroni Kenshin and think to yourself how cool it would be to slice up your enemies in a weaboo style. Plus don't get me started on the fucking amount of tripping you cause. If you're a LS user you're about as useful as a Swaxe user, which is to say none at all.
>>339022891
Okay OP. I'd like to have a word with you in my office to discuss your posting privileges.
>>339022891
Wtf is Ruroni Kenshin you geek.
>>339022891
What's wrong with the switch axe?
>>339022978
I think you should take this.
>>339022891
SA is S-tier in MHX.
>>339022891
>tfw lance only user since tri
Solo hunt it is.JUST
>>339023048
It looks stupid and sword mode is the only mode that's ever mattered.
>Ruroni Kenshin
Fuck off Ash.
>>339022891
Hold up OP, that's just plain wrong. I'm sorry you can't appreciate our glorious Nippon steel, you're probably one of those shitters that use a Greatsword and only do one charge attack and then run away, like what the fuck OP? You think you're actually helping anyone with that one attack bullshit? God get a fucking clue you dipshit.I think I understand how shitposters feel now.
Wasn't it pretty buffed in generations?
>>339023569
They reverted the red spirit gauge change, so you can keep spamming spirit combo to keep at red.
>>339022891
Nigger fuck off LS is one of the best weapons in the series, just because you're incapable of gitting gud with it and turning any monster into a pile of dishonor doesn't mean the weapon is bad.
>>339023501
>Greatsword for inflicting status
EVER
Jesus learn to play. Greatswords don't run away, they do 3 full charge attacks in a row and then roll to eliminate lag time on the next 3.
If the monster runs off it's your job as a little bitch who is trying to cut the tail to bring its head back to me and the Hammer User.
And then the Bowgunner can shoot the tail off while you spam Potions on yourself because one tiny rotation of the Tigrex made you lose 3/4 of your health bar.
>>339024051
>Greatswords don't run away, they do 3 full charge attacks in a row
ITT: Cool tips from LR hunters.
>>339024051
The fuck are you saying anon? Why the hell would you do 3 charged attacks? It just wastes everyone's goddamn time, you could constantly do regular attacks to also apply status so that you're not letting every down like the little bitch you are. Are you really that fuckin' stupid? Where you dropped on your head as child or something?
You actually believe what you're saying, don't you? It'd almost be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.Sorry for insulting you.
>>339022891
Which armor is that? Looks pretty good
>>339024516
>you could constantly do regular attacks to also apply statusc
You're not any better than the anon you're arguing with.
Charged attacks with GS get a huge boost to element and status.
>>339023126
Tips on solo lancing? I heard that the charge attack is basically useless and should be avoided but surely it can be used somewhere
>>339024845
In gen 4 the charge does damage, it's the best you can do to a downed monster's weakpoint
Any previous game? Pretend it doesn't exist, even sheathing weapon and sprinting is better than it
tbqhwy fammy me and my 3 friends all used LS in MHFU when we hunted together and nobody ever tripped anyone, sounds like you need to git gud
>>339024845
Use the charge attack for hopping and catching monsters, it can trip them well and when they are down you can use it on an angle on the monster till infinitum.
Generally it depends how you want to play with a Lance, in 4U I had a mix of evade and block sets, for counters and some nice evading.
My tip is to never stop attacking and countering, just keep it up like no tomorrow, to do that of course you need to get used to whatever setup you are using.
>>339024709
God another idiot who keeps going on about shit he has no idea about. Where do all you useless fucks come from anyway? It's like you're specifically designed to fuck up everything you do, it makes no goddamn sense for a charged attack to give a boost to elements an status for no goddamn reason. Is it that hard to understand? God you're all so useless.I know what I said is not even remotely true anon, I just wanted to try being an asshole and swearing for once.I don't actually believe anything I'm saying.
>>339022891
>plays 日本怪物 fighting game
>pretends not to be a weeaboo
Also, my love of the long sword has nothing to do with anime. I just think it's fun.
>>339025162
>it makes no goddamn sense for a charged attack to give a boost to elements an status for no goddamn reason
If it makes sense for you or doesn't is irrelevant, because the fact is - it does give a boost. It's there for mechanical reasons to justify having element/status on GS at all. Lvl 3 charge attack does triple raw damage and triple element as well.
Did you miss the Tri OP? This game is fucking weeaboo as shit anyway.
>>339022891
Something about getting it into red makes it a fun weapon. 4U's ledge attack is among my favorites if I wanted to mess around and test ideas out.
>>339024516
How do you properly play GS anon? Mh4u was my first real mh game. I usually run up and 3 charge and continue my combo or just normal attack the weak points unless we put a trap down in which case I full charge and continue on attacking.
Also what's a good set to use?
>X IS FOR RETARDS
>Y IS FOR PEOPLE WITH TRUE SKILL
>ONLY PEOPLE OF THIS GROUP I DON'T LIKE USE Z
>Q IS FOR COOL DUDES
So, why do Capcom games attract the worst sorts of autists that pretend they are normal. I use both the long sword and play as Guy in any SF game he is in. I think I'm taking pleasure in the fact that these facts probably trigger OP more than a tumblrina on Stormfront.
>>339022891
Actually long sword used to be very interesting to use. In Freedom series.
After that it became memeblade with directional attacks and large combos.
It used to be a slower methodical weapon that required patience and accuracy because you couldn't just wind to left and then get an additional dodge. You could only jump back.
I actually miss it being a more powerful, slow and methodical weapon.
>>339025441
Get Crit Draw and Focus and you're pretty much set.
>>339022891
>Top tier
Insect Glaive
Great sword
Status DS
Then anything else but Gunlance
>>339022891
Spotted the buttripped lance user. Learn to sidestep when hunting online would ya.
>>339025574
Thanks anon
>>339025331
I know, I'm full of shit tonight. You could at least read my posts man, I read all yours.
I just wanted to try swearing like an idiot. Is that so wrong?Probably.
>>339025441
I don't really know man, people say comboing is retarded and you should just work on timing your 3 charge attack, but I don't actually use Greatswords that much besides the occasional screwing around.
I imagine the usual attack boosting skills, Crit draw and Focus would work fine for your armour skills.
>>339025691
LS users could learn to aim.
>>339025515
It's actually just /v/
In general these communities aren't too bad outside of here
Especially other hunters
>>339025817
It's actually just in the threads. In the game the very same people that ardently shitpost here are the nicest people you'll ever meet.
>>339025515
t. angry frogman
>>339025441
Diablos sets are pretty much made for greatswords, same with Teostra. In general you're gonna want Sharpness +1 (Or edgemaster if you can afford it) along with Crit draw and focus as your bare minimum. From there you can worry about getting punishing draw and sheathing, but it'll be unlikely to get them all in one set unless you find some badass talismans.
>>339025730
That's the best thing about MHGen.
Bushido LS does a vertical spirit slash now so it makes it very easy to not trip people.
>>339025730
>TFW tripfag getting tripped
>>339025940
>Sharpness +1
Or if you're playing 4U you could roll with a AuL set with Sergio's GS.
Although for some reason in 4U in particular S+1 or EM sets are easier to make than AuL sets for natural purple weapons.
>>339023118
seriously? I fucking loved the SA and farmed all the way up to Mizar's Ascetism
>>339026006
I found bushido to be not as good as it seemed for any weapon other than Hammer and Bow (and DB).
Because on other weapons after a bushidodge you have to commit to an attack or waste your time running in a straight line like an idiot. And bushidodge often repositions you too far from the monster, because you usually use it do dodge right through the monster and its attack.
And with a Hammer/Bow you only go into charged stance and can release the attack whenever you want afterwards.
>>339022891
Maybe you just need to work on your situational awareness, that way you won't inconvenience the LS when it's going ham.
>>339026239
You know how people joked about how Switch Axe should be renamed into Reload Sword? Well, now you don't have to reload it anymore. It's just a sword. Do you still love it?
I'd rather play with 3 longsword users than a whiny faggot.
>>339022891
It's a great weapon for a few monsters, though. For example Zinogre, Lagiacrus, Deviljho.
I heard it's particularly good in MHX, especially because it's easier/faster to perform a spirit finisher which is the only problem LS has.
MHX is a shit game fans should avoid, though.
Is it worth playing X or should I wait for Generations?
I've seen some people say that X is pretty much fully translated, but I could only find some half translated version.
>>339024971
>>339025078
I see, so more than anything it's for closing distance and even then sprinting is better. What about the strong stab you can do when charging? Seems like it packs a punch
I'm really sorry for bringing this up, but lately I've been hearing a lot how the lance is "a spammer's weapon" and basically the easy way, that they're overpowered. I really like how they play, but I wouldn't want to end up relying too much on a crutch weapon of sorts and being spoiled by it, so how much truth is there to those claims to you who have experience with the weapon?
>>339026413
why wouldn't you wait for generations, it's less than a month away
>>339026413
Wait for Gen, the release is not far away. It will also have non-fractured nip-free playerbase.
>>339026413
>>339026450
Generations comes out July 15th
>>339026393
Why does /v/ hate MHX?
>>339026450
July 15, not June.
So why is everyone taking the OP seriously? Isn't it a tradition to start a MH thread by complaining about the weapons or monsters?
>>339026538
>>339026393
MHX isn't as good as 4U, but it's still Monster Hunter and as a result a great game.
>>339026538
>Why does /v/ hate MHX?
not that guy and I don't *hate* it
but for the first time in MH history I feel like the first true rehash version has finally appeared
>>339022891
Hows charge blade in mhx? I honestly liked cb in concept in mh4u but I can tell nerfs had to have come in mhx. I liked the sword and shield mode and I hope it was changed with more of a focus on that
>>339026686
It's still useable, but that's about it. It wasn't just nerfed, as in its motion values reduced (they were), they gutted the moveset.
>I liked the sword and shield mode and I hope it was changed with more of a focus on that
I have really bad news for you.
>>339026538
No idea. I don't know what MHX hates or doesn't hate and I don't care. I hate it because it's making monsters even more piss easy for casuals. You literally just have to spam jump attacks to take down everything in three minutes with utter shit tier noobs.
Only exception are ~10 new monsters types but those consist of shit tier monsters like Rathian, generic wyvern, Arzuros, Ludroth etc.
What's wrong with only using LS when I only play solo? True patritian choice is using what you like without ruining the fun of others
>>339022891
>that feel when struggled forever to find my one true weapontype
>used LS for the longest but still disliked it
>always skipped over SnS cause I thought it was newb weapon
>I try it in MH3U and really like it
>It gets a huge buff in MH4 and all my friends love my builds with it and I get to do all sorts of cool shit
>It just gets better every time another game or game version comes out
>Can mini charge
>Can block
>Infinite combo
>Dodge combo
>Can melee to dodge in and out
>Them elements and status
>Even VS a monster "too hard" for me I can just anklebite him into submission
>Shitting out bombs and traps at light speed
>Can drink whenever I want
I'm feelin it mates.
I'm fuckin feelin it.
Future's so bright, gotta wear shades.
What's the best Monster Hunter game in your opinion? And the best entry point for someone with no previous knowledge of the series?
>>339026885
SnS got huge buff in MHX as well.
It not only dishes out good deeps, but is also the new KO king.
>>339027015
The answer to both questions is 4U.
>>339026626
>MHX isn't as good as 4U
objectively false
>no GQ's
>no relic gear
>great gen 3 monsters are back
>more areas than shitty gen 4 ones
>no apex bullshit
>more quests
>more gear
>nyantas
>styles
>inb4 MUH G RANK
It's still as hard just without that label
HAMMER BRO REPORTING IN.
Next Monster Hunter on Vita when?
>>339026538
parroting false opinions
like
>>339026813
who hasn't played the game to actually know Aerial style is awful on most weapons
Next post he'll use the excuse
>but everyone has played the game already!
When in reality he's a latefag who hasn't
Now if you want the real answer
>Styles are a shit mechanic because they use locked movesets
>hunting arts are an issue because it isn't how flashy they are, it's how flashy they are yet they barely accomplish shit. As a result you'll mostly see Retaliative Evade being abused
>uncontrollably awful gathering quests, the low rank village has literally 4 ranks of them. Funny thing is this was addressed at GDC and will most likely change
>Ferocious materials bring your defense to G-rank in a high-rank game.
>Almost all the Deviants are well made but grinding tickets is an absolute pain.
>New upgrade system hides weapon paths and makes crafting more trial and error to find the right paths. At this point you might as well play with a wiki by your side
>Nyanter Quests are nothing but gathering or "break X part." Even the final Nyanter Quest is against low-tier monsters despite them being capable on their own
>>339026309
The SA will forever be my favorite weapon, and I will always use both modes.
>>339027015
3U is the best game, 4U is the best entry point.This is all subjective though.
>>339027170
>No Great Jaggi.
It's terrible anon, face it.
>>339027170
>no GQ's
>no relic gear
How's less endgame content a good thing?
>great gen 3 monsters are back
Can't argue with that.
>more areas than shitty gen 4 ones
You mean more reused content. Not only that, but they brought back the shittiest of the old areas too.
>no apex bullshit
Yeah, instead we've got frontiershit variants and notfrenzy bullshit.
>more quests
How exciting. I can't wait to deliver all this royal fern for the hundredth fucking time.
>nyantas
The absolute cancer.
>styles
Gimmicky shit and everyone always runs the cookie cutter weapon+style combos anyway.
Holy shit, people are actually ragging on GS here? What the fuck? It's easily one of the stronger if not the strongest weapon.
>>339027576
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>defending GQ's and relic bullshit
>>339022891
Hammer is the most overrated fucking users in the game
>hurr /v/ told me it was cool
You niggers take 5 seconds to make your swing, and by that point the monster has gently stepped out the way.
>>339022978
I really like this image. Do you mind if I save it?
>>339027653
Nice meme arrow post, anon, you sure showed him.
post your weapon logs
check my repeating digits
>>339028176
0HH/5000
>>339028176
I don't have a way of taking a picture though.
>>339026438
there are a lot of fucking idiots playing monhun now. the people you heard that from are those special kind.
Lance is one of the harder, more skilful weapons to master. Your skill at the game will improve a lot if you learn how to evade lance properly. Maybe the argument is there in MHX thanks to bushido style, but in the other game it isn't ezmodo
>>339028176
From a couple days ago
>>339028326
It's not like bushido does anything to Lance playstyle. People just stack Evasion for literal 3 second invincibility on demand just like in the previous games.
>>339022891
Wew lad.
>>339028386
>taking a 2448x3264 shot of a 320x240 screen
>>339028504
That's apparently the default size whenever I take pictures.
>>339027102
Please kind anon, teach me how this KO king thing is possible.
A new style? A new superattack?
>>339027267
No, I haven't played it but I can watch videos.
I'm not talking about solo plays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWaXYrG5s_4
Just one example. A Savage Deviljho, one of the absolute endgame monsters gets completely wrecked by utter shit tier noobs with random full sets just jumping around like retards. In four minutes.
Back then in Tri even good people needed 10 minutes for a clean normal Deviljho run.
>>339028176
Not going to bother taking a picture, but the 4 biggest are:
308 for GS.
120 for DS.
656 for CB.
234 for IG.Although I've hardly used IG online.
The rest are in between 10-100.
>>339022891
There's quite literally nothing wrong with longswords
>>339022891
>>339028757
SnS gets a new exclusive consumable type - weapon coatings. They're kinda like honing, but temporary. Among them exhaust coating which applies KO on headshots, and I think it's unaffected by motion values, like usual status attacks, so SnS with its fast attack speed benefits greatly from it.
There's also a shoryuken hunter art which apparently applies a lot of KO status as well.
>>339028801
>Back then in Tri even good people needed 10 minutes for a clean normal Deviljho run.
Oh so you are admitting you are a 4U baby as well, what a surprise.
No, Rage Match took 10+ minutes. Jho himself was always a pushover.
Lance and clown-suit Bowgun raped him, you didn't even need Fortify/Adren+2 to sub 7 it.
For Christ's sake, I grinded the Capture Jho even when it came out before HR51 easily for parts
Even World Eater Jho goes down in under 10-minutes with fucking randumbs
So you did tell one truth
>All I do is watch videos!
Jesus christ, as a sns main MHG is godsend.
I wouldn't even dream that it's going to be the new meta.
I knew stylish bombing was a thing because of the unsheathed item usage, but that hasn't much to do with the weapon itself.
>>339028386
Fuck yeah lance bro.
>>339022891
>too many eps of Ruroni Kenshin
how old are you anon
Ruroni Kenshin is older than most people on this site
Hell Ruroni Kenshin's original toonami broadcasts happened before most people currently browsing were even alive
>tfw playing FU
>played 4U before and liked the CB
>hardly any weapons I like save for SaS, DB, and LS
I wish lance was cooler.
>>339029213
Counter lancing saved it in Tri.
Despite the amounts of fun i had with Unite, it still felt like a time consuming mess for about half the game.
>>339029213
Use a Hammer. Moveset is a bit different from 3rd/4th gen, but the combos flow nicely, compared to the other weapons in FU.
LS was hot trash in 4U. It looks like Generations saved it hard though.
Am I right in thinking it's time to make a return to the weeaboo blade?
>>339029305
xXSephirothXx is more viable in MHGen, but why bother when you can be a xXKiritoXx with better results?
The GS is a hit and run weapon for the average player. You want to learn the monsters recovery time from their moves so you know how much time you have for an attack. You want to run up and draw and charge to whatever level you can pull off. If you get greedy and try to land level 3's every time you're going to get hit and waste the opportunity. Draw attacks are good, draw charges are better. Level 1 charge if you know you have time, a lot of people I see wasting damage because they just draw attack, roll, then run away when I know they had time to get off a level 1 or 2 charge instead of a basic draw attack. Level 3 charge is the good shit, the more you play the more you learn the monsters and the more opportunities you'll find to land the big damage. Teostra likes to stand still and breathe fire, prime time for a level 3 charge on its weak hind legs/tail. Something like congalala does the same, now when it stands up and does its swipes and falls down you can get off a level 1 when it falls. But once you get more comfortable with it you'll know how far its going to go before it falls and can be waiting at its destination to land a level 3 instead. It's a simple weapon with a simple moveset, the mastery is in your knowledge of the monsters. Another example is white fatalis. When it flops down on all fours it usually will back up. If you wait behind its legs to the side you can land a level 3 on its face as it moves backwards past you for heavy damage on that weak head.
>>339029297
Should I dust off myWii Uand play 3U instead?Should I play 3U on my 3DS, instead?
>>339023208
>It looks stupid and sword mode is the only mode that's ever mattered.
Those are some hot and stupid opinions ya got there, fella. Plus if you only rely on the sword mode, you're gonna waste a lot of time switching back and forth for no reason. Sounds like you're bad at the game.
>>339029410
meant for >>339025441
gunlance is fun
>checkmate monster
>>339029454
>Switching back and forth for no reason
>When you can unsheathe into sword mode
>Or the axe moves where you can quick change into sword after you reload
That's why I dislikemainlineSwax.
You can go around and never use axe and be probably better off.
>>339029508
Nice Lance picture, faget.
>>339029508
Isn't that weapon a regular Lance though?
>>339029508
>GL
Anon... We don't get any fan art
>>339022891
but those evasive maneuvers
>>339029413
Yes.
Guard +2
Guard up.
Sharpness+1
Razor Sharp
Your own choice here-
You can counter lance EVERYTHING (lasers, gas, area lightning,more) and make the game a fucking cakewalk.
You can't play online on 3ds, only local, but you can solo it all anyway.
>>339029747
Counter lancing?
>>339029629
>evasive maneuvers
>>339022891
I am a lone hunter, it doesn't matter which weapon I like to use.
I use them all except heavy bowgun and insect glaive.
Longsword is fun sometimes, but it is outclassed by most others weapons.
>Bought MH
>Really liked it
>Was awful at it and stopped playing
Should I try again and use a different weapon?
I used a GL and it was cool but I couldn't get the hang of moving around, I wanted to dodge by instinct
>>339029625
>>339029587
>>339029561
yeah niggas you win this for noticing
>>339029790
Hit R+A. You'll start charging an attack, if you're hit any time during that you'll counter with a thrust that can continue into any of your stab attacks. This also works during your combos but only on the first two strikes, you can't go into counter from the third hit.
>>339029625
There's a tiny amount.
Is IG still really stupid good in Generations or did it get hit with a Longsword nerf?
>>339029508
>play with GLancers
>they literally spend more than half the fight chasing the monster sheathing/unsheathing, barely getting hits in while their shield is pure decoration.
I fall asleep watching them.
I played it myself too but there is little fun to be had aside from shelling and WF
Don't forget to do those egg quests, /v/
>>339029812
Jaerick?
>>339029882
Motion Values and Attack Buff were gutted
>>339029880
I guess, but compared to other weapons like SnS or GS we have nothing.
>>339029790
Counter charge right before you get hit, and stab back.
You will be immune from everything right after the counter too.
Uragaan shits out his sleepygas?
Charge counter, block once, and just keep impaling his anus while he's still shitting sleep.
>>339029747
Isn't 3U online dead, though?
>>339029968
I expected as much, given how great it was during MH4U's endgame. I'm a bit encouraged that the nerfs aren't all that bad, though.
>>339030006
Yeah, I only have 2-3 GL pictures.
It's pretty sad, but the best things rarely ever get fan art.
>>339029923
We honestly have the worst mobility, so I spend a bit more time chasing after monsters than others, but the shield has saved me dozens of times. And unless your entire party is full of gunners, you shouldn't have to chase the monster too far.
>unsheathing
This shouldn't be happening. Well that's how I feel personally. I'm usually within running stab distance if the monster is zipping around.
What's the easiet weapon to use?
>>339030550
Your favourite weapon.No but really, probably SnS or GS.
>>339030550
Easiest to use or to be good with?
Easiest to use is hammer. Easiest to git gud with is GS.
>>339030550
Longsword is the easiest pick up and play weapon for someone new. Greatsword has the simplest move set but a new player knowing nothing about monster hunter probably won't want to use it once they see the walk speed, they likely won't immediately know that it's meant to be a hit and run weapon.
>>339029213
I don't know, I'm playing FU and I'm loving my lanceThen again that and F2 are the only games I've played
>>339030719
Rant in general here.
SnS is easy to pick up, but actually using it effectively takes a long while to master.
People complain that the damage output is low, but that's because they play it wrong.
-As a SnS user you're supposed to stick as close as possible to the monster for pretty much the whole hunt, you must not allow yourself to distance yourself, unless you have to sharpen up.
-Many forget that the running attack has hyper armor for a sec, combine that with a roll and you have an implemented extended roll.
-Keep your camera low, preferably near horizontally, wings will fuck your vision up.
-Don't fucking sheath unless a super dodge is inevitable
-Flash bombs, poison knifes, traps, B-bombs, paint, tranqs, spiked food, etc should be at your fingertips if proven effective
-Most of the time you're hacking at the feet, but SnS can do jump attacks from both upward and downward ledges, abuse that shit, and don't forget to shield bash the fuck out of that skull when given the opportunity.
-Don't go into the pommelstrike, just do a cross-slash followed by a roundhouse
-It's very easy to roll out of SnS attacks
>>339028997
>That beautiful moment where the planets align for you to make something like this happen.
>>339032556
>>339024194
Lol you have no idea mate. Standard charge into roundhouse into upswing charge into quick charged down slam.
Learn to fucking greatsword and you'll solo G like me.
>>339032636
Yeah, saved it the other day too. Doesn't get any better honestly and I'll try it myself when its out.
>>339024051
>gunners aiming at tails
As someone that's primarily a gunner, explain why shooting the tail is a good idea. I'm legitimately curious.
>>339033887
He was just shitposting, but coincidentally Capcom often puts piercing weakpoints on the tail, when it's not on the monster's face.
>>339033887
On top of my head M.Tigrex, Diablos, Duramboros and Teostra have their raw shooting weakspot at their tails. It is a good idea when it is the weakspot, there's nothing much to say about it. Assuming he's talking about LBG cut rf, well, it is a rather effective shot. That guy is a delusional retard though, for different reasons.
>>339034397
Teo's is on the head, but you can't shoot it when the flame aura is active.
>>339029213
I agree, I can't return to older MH after playing around with SA and CB.
>>339029747
One more thing, the lance actually has two whoopin' counters.
The first one is explained.
But the second one is the shield advance.
Even with this move you can waltz through every single attack with those armor skills.
This counter is meant for gaining ground and following up with a shield bash for ko/ex damage.
It's also great to use against projectile attacks.
>>339033887
>Wimpy blademasters complain about tail cuts
>Get the cut with a slicing shot
>Be smug the entire rest of the hunt
>>339023067
>that triforce
more like newfag meat lmao
I'm starting mhp3rd. What weapon should I try to get gud?
>>339029508
>use the babel tree because dat design boiii
>it's kinda shit except for the slots because you're better off with element/stat
I don't feel wasting points for awaken either.
>>339034883
>>339034883
All of them.
>>339034883
If it's your first MH uselong sword.
And keep using those spirit combos because the damage is incredible.
Since when has Kut-ku been able to curve fireballs? And why is it shooting four fireballs instead of three now?
Why am I having so much trouble with the first arena quest? God this stupid animal is infuriating.
>>339035237
arena monsters are stronger than usual iirc
>>339034883
Hammer is the best weapon in P3rd.
>>339022891
>Plus don't get me started on the fucking amount of tripping you cause
Ugh this tired old nugget again, bad Hammer and GL players are far worse.
>>339035370
Not really.
>>339035237
The arena is just balanced for two players.
Also, they give you shit equipment.
>>339032636
>>339028997
>fighting the monster
>been hitting him a lot
>probably getting close to recoiling
>he charges me
>this is what I've been waiting for!
>charge up and hit him right on the snout at max charge
>pomf
>rams into me
>go back to dual blades
>>339035689
Yeah, go back to ankle-biting, sissy.
>>339022891
>about as useful as a Swaxe user
So pretty damn useful?
>>339035878
I tried for a long time but I just couldn't get it down, well at least I have the cool mid air spin to ground slide, zinogre really hates that, as does any other low to the ground monster.
>>339035187
I've played til r6 on FU, but that was years ago
>>339035034
I'm using that atm, but I'm not fond of it
>>339035689
Stagger thresholds are different for each area of the monster. If you were hitting it in the arms/legs a lot and then you try to pull off a dope ass clash and win with a head hit it isn't going to work. Not unless you hit it hard enough in one hit to exceed the head's threshold like with a GS level 3 or wyvernfire or something.
>>339035061
No way
>>339035370
It's not that man. More like everything it does is irritating me, from it's annoying fireballs to his on the spot hops.
Like it just doesn't stop man, constant annoying moves that I don't remember how dodge.I've gotten terrible again after not playing.
>>339035562
Oh god the equipment man, it's almost as bad as your starting equipment.
>>339035689
>Teammates knock the monster down.
>I've been waiting for this.Jpg
>I go for an Ultra burst with CB.
>Completely miss the head and launch 2 of my teammates flying.
>Silently change weapons after the quest.
We've all been there man.
>>339034308
>>339034397
>>339034643
Ah, alright. Thanks for clarifying.
>>339036279
>More like everything it does is irritating me
Because it's a shitty first gen bird wyvern which they didn't bother to fix before copypasting into the modern games.
>play hunting horn
>can't play any other weapon because they all feel so bland in comparison
pls send help
>>339036237
3 games in and I never knew that.
>>339036279
Screwing up your teammates is the worst, worst I've ever done was blow everyone off Dalamadur with anti dragon bombs, it was partially their fault for running up to it but I still felt retarded.
>>339036517
>they all feel so bland
All you do is bash skulls and doot-doot. How's that any less bland than, say, SA, let alone CB?
>>339036558
What I like about messing with teammates is that when you first start out you're so concerned about hitting each other and not being rude.
Then when you're good friends you start to look for opportunities to be dicks.
Personal favorite is not telling anyone I'm switching to Clust when fighting a smaller monster.
>>339022891
>Implying your opinion matters
LOL
I can get Pinnacle coins from any rank right? Or do I have to achieve at least A or S rank? These Arena quests are so annoying.I miss not sucking.
>>339036403
Some of the new monsters are just as bad to be fair though, like Najarala for example.
>>339036558
Yeah, I've done worse than that. I killed 1 hunter by accidentally hitting him so he couldn't avoid the attack in time, just for one example.
>>339037072
I didn't like Najajaja at first too, but it's just a matter of learning the fight. It's quite easy and enjoyable when you know what you're doing.
First gen wyverns' retarded instant charges or tail sweeps with broken hitboxes are never a fun part of the fight even if you know about this bullshit and learned to anticipate and avoid it.
>>339037795
>It's just a matter of learning the fight
>But fuck learning those guys fight so they are shit
I find Naja far more insufferable with bouncing and the constant movement than attacks with little start up but easy to dodge and counter.Because the charge is only instant if you're standing dead ahead of the monster in a neutral stance.
>>339037072
I hated Najarala the first few times I fought it but I really like having a snake monster finally. Now it's fun to fight since I've learned how crazy weak the little hind feet are. If you run around it while it's coiled up and start hitting the little feet you can knock it down over and over, it's a lot of fun.
>>339037795
>>339038127
But Najarala just constantly circles you forcing to try and find exit, repeat that for the whole fight with the occasional other attack and that's every fight I've ever had with it.
It's design is top tier, but it's a pretty horrid fight. Not that it's actually hard or anything.
>>339038245
What weapon do you use? If you use lances/gunlances I can see it being a pretty shitty fight. Everything else can move quick enough to just walk out of the circle though. Tidal is a different story, it does the paralyzing bite much sooner than the normal one when circling. Best to just sheathe when it starts it and dive over its body out of the circle.
>>339038032
You should also learn to read posts until the end. I said that even when you learn all of the shitty monster's bullshit moves it doesn't stop the encounter from being shit.
Like, for example, in Dark Souls, you know that the silver knights, especially the spear wielding ones can potentially hit you through walls, and you accept this fact and learn not to let them hit you. But they shouldn't have been able to do so in the first place, and the quality of the game would only be higher if the devs bothered to apply the same wall collision mechanic for enemies as for the player character.
>>339038245
Stick to its hind legs and the snek will spend half of the fight grounded, letting you to break its face.
I always go 2h until I play a game like Dark Souls II where enemies and bosses are more likely to drop your ass because you take 3 and a half days to swing. Especially when the damage output is not at least doubled that of a 1h.
>>339038520
I read it all, and I'm saying you didn't learn shit because if you had you'd see those "bullshit" moves aren't nearly as bad as you're making out to be.
They are at least on par with anything any other monster can dish out in terms of annoying, they just have the "look at my tell" signs 20 seconds long.
But they still have easily identifiable tells that you can use and slip right through.
>>339038720
>just have
Just DON'T have
Fuck typing at 6 am.
>tfw no mh4u on vita
>>339038386
By the time you've found the exit and start walking, he/she just tightens the circle and you're practically screwed then. Of course that's mostly if you get unlucky/confused and screw up.
Not to mention it can be confusing to tell where he's going to end up when he gets up or attacks because his body is so damn big and spread out.
I always use IG for him and just leap out of of all his attacks, so it's not even an issue. Naja is the one enemy I recommend using IG for over everything else.Then again it's not that bad of a fight either.
I can only use the GS. Tried the SA but it felt awkward so I'll be forever a GS fag
>>339039018
>Be GS fag for 3 games in a row
>Friend makes fun of me for being a GS fag
>I'll show you, I'll use all the weapons!
>Oh wow all the weapons are pretty fun
>I now have 300 weapons in my box
HELP.
>>339038932
It coils in the same way and at the same speed every time, I don't understand what you mean by finding the exit. Once you know where it'll be it'll always be there the same way each time it does that move.
>>339038720
>20 seconds long.
Except that's wrong.
Take Gore for example. It has like half or quarter of a second wind up animation before its charge move. Just enough for a hunter to GP or dodge through it.
But Garuga's charge not only instant, but it's hitbox is stretched to full length on the first frame, when the monster hasn't even changed the pose, when it's beak isn't stick out forward yet.
Sure it's not unavoidable when you already know it can happen. But if you think that this sort of discrepancy between the monster model and the hitbox is okay, and the game wouldn't only benefit from it getting fixed, then I'm afraid you might be taking the whole git gud meme a little bit too serious.
>>339038905
I was wondering when you were gonna show up.
>>339039124
It has the same animation, but depending on your postion around him the exit is in a different spot. Unless I'm just retarded and it is always the same spot.
I do like Naja and can actually fight him, I was just pointing out that he's on the same level as the Terrible gen 1 monsters, as in both of the have manageable annoying moves and tripping.
>>339038932
>Naja is the one enemy I recommend using IG for over everything else.
GS destroys Najarala.
Although, I guess, considering the fact that both weapons can be legit called overpowered, that's not surprising. Anything gets destroyed by either of those without much effort.
>>339039349
It's in the same spot relative to which way the monster is facing when it starts it. Just walk toward its face when it starts and you'll walk right through the gap as it circles.
i havent played 4 ultimate in a very very long time. playing for a bit now and forgot about this relic i had gotten a while back. looks nice just wondering how it stacks up against other relic sword and shields. anyone know?
>>339039525
Its okay
>>339039285
Well, point being I was exaggerating for comedic effect about the tell time.
And if we're talking about hitboxes alone, then I do agree. The fact that they haven't addressed that is retarded.
BUT, the hitbox does not change between each charge. It doesn't magically increase for one and not another, so it's still something you can adapt and learn.
So if you have a Garuga in a neutral stance and a hunter's dead in front of them, you might as well just assume it's going to charge and react accordingly.
That's the tell, that's the moment you should move and take action, before Garuga's even taken that first step because it's right there in front of you saying "I have a high chance of running you over".
Too many 3rd and 4th gen monsters I feel give you too much time between starting their attack and then attacking so no one ever tries to learn to predict instead of just reacting.
Not that I would ever want every monster to have that style move, but I wouldn't mind a small quick attack to punish people who don't think ahead.
>>339039373
It's also stupidly easy to get all the kinsect colours from Naja, so you can kind of just go to town on him without stopping.
>>339039440
I'll have to try that out then.
>>339026538
/v/ will like Gen once it actually comes out. People don't like the games as much that don't have G rank in them but I think there's plenty of endgame (and all-level content for that matter) in gen.
>>339022891
> knows who kenshin is
> claims he's not a weaboo
>>339039672
Yes. That's what I've been talking about in my posts. You can adapt to it and anticipate it.
But this is just guesswork. A monster encounter like that doesn't leave much room for reaction based gameplay, which I personally value more than moving out of potentially dangerous zones pre-emptively. These outdated monsters are based around and favor hit and run gameplay, when instead of allowing you to keep on the aggression, they present one big obvious opening once in a while.
>>339028801
>i never played tri: the post
>>339040149
Guess it's just a personal thing. I find I can act, react, and counter on those "outdated" ones far faster than the monster that have to go through their long tell -> attack -> recovery phases.
Cuts out the fat.
Not that I'm holding up Garuga as a pinnacle of design, he's designed to be a prick and does that role well. But not a very good example of what a good average fight should be.
I'd just rather have a combination of both those moves to promote both predictive play and reactive play.
Something like this you'd have to have a mix of both those talents. Gotta predict the timings and then rely on reaction to cover any gaps.
Either one falls through and you'll wind up with a fireball to the face.
>>339028801
this
just look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vkD5wugGMU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os_NZ5vriJU
>>339040768It took me 40 minutes solo my first 3U Deviljho.I even hunted a ton in 4U before finally reaching him in 3U.
>>339040768
>3 lances and a Clown Gun
It's almost like I'm HR grinding Fiery Skies, Frozen Fields all over again
>>339041029
Don't you worry, MHGen brings back overbloated damage sponges 3U-style.
>>339028176
>>339041220
What's Duram's hp like in Gen? Okay like P3rds or GIANT FUCKING MOUNTAIN OF SHIT like 3U's?
>>339041327
Way worse than both. I could solo G-rank rusty in under 6 minutes in 3G, took me TWENTY EIGHT minutes in Gen in what I would consider an optimal run.
Thankfully he's a big lump of fat. You will NOT have fun with speedy shitnuggets like Blazing Rathalos when they take 47 minutes to kill.
>>339041327
Dunno, I kinda lost interest in MHX soon after I hit HR, because not that many people had CFW back then, and I had no one to play with.
I fought the mammoth, and it wasn't too bad. Plus you have mounting and all the other new toys to deal with Duram.
>>339041436
Jesus fuck. Were you tripping him regularly?
>>339035689
I've knocked a G Rank Black Diablos out with my hunting horn's neutral second recital mid-charge, while breaking a horn at the same time and not getting hit.
Everything about hunting horn's attack angles, commitment to songs, and KO possibility are too fucking good.
I played all of mh4u with a lbg.
I switched to hbg on some team play
Had 3U for 3ds for 2 years before I even had a WiiU, and had no local MonHun playing friends
Finished village and completed port, all the way to dire miralis, solo
Shit was fun and forced me to git gud after doing pretty much every possible quest with 3 others in Tri
Only things that gave me insane headache iirc were G Rank Duramboros anything, and that hellish double Green Narga quest
>>339041220
Almost timing out wasn't so bad though, that 3U Jho was terrifying. It was a very painful experience that I do not want to try again.
>>339041524
Every time, fire duals, demondancing his lovely lady humps like they owed me money.
I mean, shit, even the almighty Greatsword feels like hitting monsters with a Longsword. In 3U I could stagger Lagiacrus with every two hits, now I'm lucky to see one with every five.
>>339041586
Did you kill Alatreon with HR weapons?
I was fairly new to MH back then, and I simply couldn't deal with his shit. Even ran out of time a few times.
>>339022891It's the only weapon I enjoy in this mechanically shit series. To say the control mechanics and general function of MH are shit is taking it easy on the game. Even Shitsouls manages to do somethings better. I say this as someone who is used to the MH. There's no damage control you can make for them not improving (NOT CASUALIZING) how the game functions.
Deflections and damage control incoming as usual. MH fanbase takes criticism of any form about as well as a tumblr tranny.
>>339041701
DELETE THIS
>>339041684
Alatreon was nerfed to hell after Tri, now he's a joke on par with teostra and the likes.
>>339022891
> tachi
> anywhere resembling kenshin's katana or style
>people complain about shitter LS all the times
>for good reason too since most people spam sprit slashes
>when you should be trying to get the color up on your LS and use the double overhead slashes most of the times
I wish the games showed how strong each attack is. They don't have to go full autism with motion values but if they told people sprits slash is like 50 while overhead slashes are like 25 and fade is like 20 with step slash being 30 most people will use spirit for getting red or yellow katana.
>>339022891
ITT: Nowhere near as fun as the fanart suggests
>Savage Jho will never be able to chain a dragon breath with a dragon breath again
Why did they ruin Savage Jho again? Now all it is, is a Glass Cannon Jho that does nothing but hip-check. The massive Dragon Breath ain't even unique to it anymore. Both Apex and Outraged Jho both do it and can even slow it down to make it even more of a pain to avoid
>>339041684
I don't remember having to hunt him solo. I basically just did the key quests needed to advance and the quests needed to unlock said quests. Don't believe I hunted Ala in 3u untill I grabbed a WiiU copy
>>339041617
In MHX Village I managed to kill a HR Garuga and an intruding Deviljho with like two minutes left on the timer with late LR/early HR weapon and armor.
>>339041797
Oh really? I've heard they buffed him, so he doesn't lose his flight form and its abilities when you break both horns.
>>339041852
Oh, I thought you've cleared all the quests in the village, when you said you finished it. He's the final Village boss.
>>339022891
LS is pretty much a worse Glaive, there's no reason to use it unless you don't have a top tier bug yet.
>>339041846
That's what Apex monsters are. They have the moveset of both regular and subspecies monsters of their family. Apex Jho is supposed to be stronger than just S.Jho.
>>339041586
I wonder why Miralis was the only colossal monster i enjoyed soloing. I still have no idea.
>>339029747
>>339034548
>tfw guard up and guard +2
>tfw still getting pushed back when blocking I.Lagi electric cage and some other attacks
this is bullshit!
>>339041860
Anon please, don't scare me like that.
I don't need another reason to not buy Generations.
>>339041701
Working for that (you) huh?
Fucking casuals, where are all the real hunters?
Back in my day we did this shit solo, complaining about multiplayer is for fags.I dug out my psp and charger for this, and slapped the MHFU .iso on really quick. I really miss this game, but I was pretty much done with it at G3.
>>339042101
I found it to be a cathartic, braindead fight. Even made its set and all.
>>339041969
Ah, it's been over a year since I did all this. I was doing village and port in tandem, so it's likely I killed it in my Grank R.Duramboros set
Thinking about picking up Sword and Shield again in Generations because weapon oils and the arts seem like fun. Is Striker SnS good?
>>339042101
>>339042213
What do you think about Gog?
>>339042082
It isn't that it's just that they removed the one attack that was iconic to Savage in 3U and never gave it back
>>339042118
Congratulations, now you know why lance became useless after they fixed the monster's hitboxes.
There's no attack in the game you should be blocking instead of just dodging.
>>339042175
Here ya go, next time you offer no rebuttal because something challenges your mental hugbox you can use this picture.
>>339042190
>GS
>Narga set
>real hunter
>>339022891
There were no command swords in Ruroken unless you count Enishi's custom chinese/japanese sword from the arc that never got animated.
>>339042265
Not him, but a MH1 vet here. Gog is a colossal fucking asshole and I love it, reminds me of original Yama.
>>339042118
>fighting W.Mono
>CB
>guard+2
>shield boost mode
>GP
>chip damage from the charge attack still goes through
>>339042346
>GS not the best weapon in every single game, without any contest
>>339024612
Lao Shen Lung.
>>339042309
I don't want to block, I want to counterlance, countering/parrying is the most fun thing in videogames
>>339042373
I honestly can't say about Yama or Miralis, but I really like how Gog is an actual monster, just fuckhuge, and not a puzzle boss fight like the Mohrans or Dala.
>>339042462
>evade set and GS
>not crit draw set and GS
>>339042505
Not if you want that third stab. Or if you're playing Tri.Or Bushido
