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Holy shit. Its real.

4k and it looks like real life. The graphics are AMAZING. after seeing GT SPORT 4K I am sold.

Trust me. This is a HUGE generation leap. I'm talking 2D-3D TYPE OF LEAP


IM HYPE.

PRE-ORDER because this will sell out.

I'm calling it.
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I'm telling you people, you NEED to buy PlayStation 4 NEO, you want to be a part of the next generation, don't you?
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get lost, asshole
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>>339012180
No. I want to go back to the SNES and Genesis era, and do it all over.
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>>339011608
>>339012180
Tell me more
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>>339011608
I don't believe in the phrase "____ aged poorly" so that should show just how much I care about graphics. I'll keep my original until they start pumping out PS4k exclusives. And I make enough money, so it's not a big deal anyway.
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Fuck you.
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The Xbox Scorpio WILL NOT be as good as the PlayStation 4 NEO, I guarantee it!
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I am sticking with my launch day PS4. The graphics it delivers is fine for me, I am happy with my console and the games to play man
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>>339012220

Cool OC, if you made it.
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>there are people who think you'll be able to play games in 4k
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>>339012649
The names are accurate predictors
PS4 sounded okay, Xbox One sounded retarded
PS4 Neo sounds meh, Xbox Scorpio sounds cool
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>>339012649
assuming the info is true on the scorpio and OP "confirmed" the neo is real to the extent of being visually seen we can assume that it does indeed power at aprox 4tflops making it about twice as strong leaving scorpio the advantage of tortoise v hare and dominate with its project 5-6 tflops.
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>>339012649
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/05/26/ps4-neo-vs-xbox-one-scorpio-report/
>Where the PS4 Neo is supposedly targeting a peak performance of 4.14 teraflops, Scorpio is said to be targeting 6 teraflops
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>>339012649
Nope
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>>339011608
Is it backwards compatible with ps1/2/3?
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>>339012913

Sounds contrivedly extreme like Poochie or this.
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>>339011608

>4k is literally 4 times as hard as 1080p
>PS4 barely meets 30 fps with shit graphics at 1080p
>actually thinking the entire GPU power wouldn't be consumed just rendering the same shitty graphics at 4k

IT'S FUCKING NOTHING
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>>339011608
I've been running 4K since early 2015. You're already behind.
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>>339013419
OP is obviously full of shit. i assumed the 4K was for streaming netflix and shit.
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>>339013419
>shit graphics
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>>339011608
Tha...Thats right broski you tell em. Aint no Xbox Scorpio gonna bring us down
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>>339012990
>4.14 teraflops
>Not even nearly as strong as a 290x from almost 3 years ago

Why do you people keep eating their shit man?
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>>339011608
Nigga
Scorpio is literally from going to atari to Star citizen tier graphics
PS4K is the virtual boy compared with the scorpio
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>inb4 they try to shove 4k through HDMI 1.4 to save money and it only outputs at 4:2:0 chroma
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>>339013304
That would be my only reason to buy one, my Ps2 broke and my childhood ps1 is technically my brothers, and he lives on the other side of the country.
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the 'next gen consoles' are the oculus rift and htc vive. ps4.5 (with PSVR! at sub-1080p and interpolated 45fps...) and xboneroner (with underpowered 'support' for the rift, which is already the clear loser in the opening period of the true generational war) are the last desperate death throes of the traditional console (which was dealt the mortal wound by the original xbox and has just been rolling around, screeching incoherently and shitting itself and trying to use its shit-covered fingers to spitefully drag anyone else down with it that it could. you know it to be true.)
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>>339013671
>its good enough to bring sonyponies to tears

Ok. Might have to check this out.
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>>339011608
>4k
>it looks like real life
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i bet this game would manage to suck on it. if you are buying this do everyone a favor and meet and greet ol' Ann Hero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8xUo97yV38
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>>339011608
Fuck off Sonygger
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>>339016361
PC master race pleb gtfo
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>>339015258

you can only see a little over 4k pixels per eye.
and having two eyes blurs the pixels together with binocular AA anyways.
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Real talk. Microsoft could easily afford to engage in an 'arms race' with consoles, since they have far more money. So what's stopping them from Ronald Reagan-ing Sony out of the console race?
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>>339017369
People like Sony more, simple as that
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>>339017369
They can and probably will one-up Sony in the hardware race but its useless if people dont want to play Microsoft games.

Multiple Sony ip's have world wide appeal and Sony's demographic is extremely varied, until Microsoft gets this kind of market saturation having powerful hardware just won't cut it.

It'll be a marketing poly, a superficial incentive to buy their consoles and only some people will fall for it.
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>Sonyggers are now bragging about Muh graphics
Oh? I thought that's what made PCfags so pathetic, right?
Huh
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>>339017747
For MS's interests, worst case scenario, Microsoft makes the stronger console. Best case scenario, they drive Sony out of the console market.

Having good IPs means jack shit, just look at Nintendo or Sega. It's all about marketing, it's all about your competitor fucking up. That's how console wars always worked, and how they always will. A platform never rises to the top on its own merits, it uses failed competitors as stepping stones.
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>tfw you waited for PS4 Neo
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>>339017369

Because Mattrick was a fool and now you have phil spearheading what you are saying.

What's more is on top of a powerful console, they are also using the pc side to market their shit. In short it's the best move they can make.

Power matters in the end and casuals don't care about exclusives.

Only three things matter

1. Power of a console for shitposting the opposition
2. Price
3. Marketing
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>>339018578
Tearaway Unfolded is missing
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>>339018643
What Microsoft really needs to do is combine Windows and Xbox. Not as in one platform, but as two platforms that serve the same purpose. In Europe and especially Japan, the Xbox is far less prevalent than PlayStation. However, in both regions, Windows is more viable as a game platform than Xbox, even in Japan. Those games that Microsoft bought, like Blue Dragon, Raiden, Dodonpachi, and some others would've fared much better in their native Japan if they also had Windows versions; the Japanese are extremely nationalistic and would never buy an American console for just one game.

It's all about spreading their sphere of influence, really.
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>>339011608
Stfu nigger.
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>>339012905
>there are people who think there's nothing powerful than a 980ti
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>>339018578
4 the players
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I wish we still had the option to report for commercial spam, because this is ridiculous.
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>>339013515

>Confusing massively overblown AO for good graphics.

Mediocre textures, simplistic environmental detail, low poly world.

I knew you console faggots were going to start confusing overdone AO for realism the moment your consoles could handle having AO.
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>>339019173

But that's exactly what they are doing or did you miss all those articles from last year about unifying all platforms? The recent article that gave us info on the scorpio said future halos, forzas and other games would be on pc though the forza thing was known

My guess is they plan to use the pc side as free marketing due to how games like undertale got so big. There is also the sweet sweet esports/competitive/twitch side they want. Forge dropping was an indicator of that as they give pc players tools to make content and that trickles back on their console side. Depends on how complex the tools are you can do a lot more on pc.

That's their plan to spread xbox as a brand at least.
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>>339020243
>I wish we still had the option to report for commercial spam

But that would take away hiroshimas money.

There's a reason shilling went 1000x worse when they removed that report option.
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>>339020407
>There's a reason shilling went 1000x worse when they removed that report option.

There was an option for that?
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>>339011608
>implying
Developers would have to make a game with graphics like that which in turn costs them extra dosh, Im assuming your lying since racing games are just glorified tech demos at this point.
>mfw the xboners 2.0 console is stronger apparently
Cant wait for more shitflinging over their brand new heaters.
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>>339011608
>4k and it looks like real life
:^)
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>>339011608
It won't be anything compared to the NX. I tripped over Reggie while he was at the local Payless and he dropped the NX out of his pocket. It's fucking crazy, hologram shit. He quickly put it in his pocket and paid me 20 bucks to keep my mouth shut.

But little does he know, I got a picture of it. I had my phone on silent so he doesn't know.

Screencap this. I'm gonna release the photo on 5/29/2016 at 5 PM PDT.
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>>339011608
>Neo will be holding back vidya since PC and Skorpio will be more powerful
The tides have turned in this shit filled sea.
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>>339020436
hownew.ru
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>>339020839
I can confirm that this poster is legit btw.
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>>339011608
This console will be completely obliterated by its worst enemy: The regular, 100 dollars cheaper PS4
This system will have several better numbers, but the one people do actually care about will not be one of em.
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>>339020978
thanks dad!
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>>339021007
ain't no way the regular PS4 is gonna drop by that much.
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>>339020839
It is designed for virtual board games, inst it?
It's the last remaining thing nintendo didn't copied and improved from milton bradley.
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>>339021112
They're not selling the PS4 neo for the same price as the regular PS4 either.
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>>339021206
you say that as if you actually believe it.
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>>339021114
I keep hearing about this Nintendo/Milton Bradley thing, but I've never seen any substantial evidence towards it. Wouldn't their biggest inspiration be the Colecovision since 1) it had controllers housed in the console, like the Famicom and 2) utilized tile-based graphics instead of being written by code, which was then used in the Famicom?
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>>339020292
And yet still looks better than any game on PC LOL
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>>339021335
The NES is not exactly part of the nintendo/MB rife.
The console war of the two was on the portable gaming, with milton bradley using a fixed system, while nintendo released their game & watch, its where the D-Pad did born.
Also they fought over in the playing cards, in toys...

The best you can say into the famicom debacle is that nintendo learned with the vectrex idea of being completely different but avoiding the mistakes.
Also i woulnt say exactly coleco in terms of tile, but the 9918 video chip in general, as it was terrifyingly popular due being able to deal with DRAM without external circuitry to refresh the memory.
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>>339011608
>PRE-ORDER
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>>339021302
ICs aren't grown in trees.
Extra shader units take extra die space, and those make the IC more expensive, and this makes the console more expensive.
Also the redesign of the cooling system to handle the extra heat, the redesign of the PCB to be able to deliver more current to the IC..
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>>339021706
Yeah, that's what I meant. The 9918 was pretty much the father of modern display processors, which was cloned and copied for numerous systems.

How the hell is it that America is without a doubt a world leader in technology, yet we've never done anything substantial with games?
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>>339021741
Don't comment in my thread UNLESS you are contributing to the discussion in a meaningful way
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>>339022071

I'm commenting where my testicles are demanding and suggesting that preordering is something to laugh at is very meaningful.

Btw, we do not take it kindly to shills in here.
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>>339011608
>SILKY SMOOTH 1080p streched to 4K, 12fps.
I'm calling it
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>>339022045
America lost most of its gameplay autism during the crash of the video games, prefering to seek graphics instead, and making the gameplay and feel a secondary thing.
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>>339021435
You're an idiot LOL
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>>339017369
They are incompetent.
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>>339022504
To be fair, most American developers seemed more like they were computer engineers, and most of their games seemed more like programming exercises. Pong, Q-Bert, and Defender all look like technology showcases than gameplay showcases.

Japanese games, on the other hand, were far simpler in scope and less ambitious, but they focused all their resources into what they already had. This holds true even with homebrew video games; American homebrew games seem more ambitious but with a modicum of effort in all areas, while Japanese homebrew games are much simpler in scope, but all the focus was put into their sole factor.

Europeans seem to be the balance between the two, boasting technological prowess as well as gameplay.
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>>339022693
>can't post a better looking pc game

I win :)
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>>339021435
LOL
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>>339021435
>LOL
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>>339011608
Is it even supposed to be running games in 4K? I thought it was just going to have games running smoother with more graphical fidelity at a better framerate in 1080p, and be able to run 4K video. The only reason I cared at all was because I wanted FFXV in a condition where it didn't look like a blurry slideshow made out of sawblades.
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>>339022819
>>339022917
Those look worse tho
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>>339022819
>>339022917
>posts pics that look worse

you fucked up
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>>339022993

Not him but you should get your eyes checked
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>>339022948
4K is more marketable, but in reality smoother framerate is probably within the realm of possibility. If it means playing what few worthwhile PS4 games (namely Bloodborne) at 60FPS, I'll be on board with it. Otherwise, they can keep it.
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>>339023071
Just Cause 2 has easily worse looking textures and character models
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I live how Sony fanboys get butthurt when someone says the PS4 Neo exists because VR games run like ass on a regular PS4.

>B-but it's not true! The demo at E3 run on a regular PS4!
>Shut up, Sony would never betray regular PS4 users!
Bloodborne struggles to maintain 30 fps on a regular console. The first Uncharted 4 trailer Sony showed ran at 60 fps and looked amazing (and a message said "this video was taken from a PS4"). The actual game runs at 30 fps and looks downgraded compared to the first trailer.
The regular PS4 will never play VR games like it should.

Ready to pay 900 dollars ($) for a Neo+VR?
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>>339011608
>2D-3D TYPE OF LEAP
but 2d-3d was gradual, and more of a gradient than a leap.
original 3d games looked very close to 2d games
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>>339022746
There were some developers that did bring in the weight on design, like Dave Theurer.
Man was formed in psychology instead of CS, and used what he learned with pidgeons to design highly addictive games like Missile Command and tempest.
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That's it, I'm getting myself a Sony PlayStation 4 with a copy of Uncharted 4.
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>>339022948

But for most consumers, are they really going to want to shell out the money just for that?

And unless Sony makes it explicit that games on the Neo should be 1080p 60FPS, I would be inclined to think that developers would just use the extra power to make things look prettier instead of increasing framerate.
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>>339022819
>he thinks oversaturation out the ass looks good
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>>339011608
shill pls
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>>339023157
>VR games run like ass on a regular PS4.


Except they don't, there are thosands of people who tried VR on PS4 and said its smooth and runs well
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>>339023202
>pretending you just arrived into the thread when you're not a new ip

stop
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>people trying to shitpost that Uncharted 4 has bad graphics

You have to be pretty stupid to do this. Uncharted 4 has problems, but they're not tied to the visuals.
If you had played the game you would know what the actual problems are, but seeing as how you can only talk about the graphics that tells me you haven't even played the game.
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>>339023174
Pretty much what I was getting at. Most of Atari's programmers were just that, programmers. During this time frame, computer scientists would be more accurate, since there really wasn't a field dedicated solely to game programming. It wasn't until the NES days when development teams had more than just programmers; designers were brought in, so were composers and graphics artists. Games expanded to beyond technological showcases.

Speaking of Japanese, what was the first ever Japanese video game? Part of me wants to say Space Invaders, but I feel like that would be wrong.
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>>339023289
What assures you they were playing on a regular PS4?
Oh, I know:
>Sony would never lie
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>>339023426
Cause they were literally plugged into them with no other hardware in sight?
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>>339023426
>wants to make it a point that sony would use pc's to run VR because microsoft did

While there is nothing wrong with your point about being sceptical, your "evidence" to back it up with was fucking retarded.
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>>339023347
I played Uncharted 4 at store and I can't grasp why the game looks better in screenshot than in motion. While playing I could easily notice pixellated shadows, jaggies, shitty draw distance and some strange flickering. It wasn't bad looking, sure, but it wasn't as good as I see in the screenshots.
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>>339012913
>not named serpico
preorder cancelled
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>>339023417
According to the google, it were pong clones, but the original arcades etc gets quite messy.
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>>339020127
A 1070 is more powerful than a 980TI. You nignog.
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>>339023617
Yeah, I figured as such. Most games during that era would be clones, though I want to say Nintendo's Color TV 112 made was probably the first 'original' game, also made in June 78, like Space Invaders.
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>>339023560
The screens are literally taken from in-game.

Yes you can add filters, increase chromatic aberration/motion blur/etc and so on but how the game looks in screens is how it looks in the game.
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>>339011608
>Trust me. This is a HUGE generation leap. I'm talking 2D-3D TYPE OF LEAP
You mean a whole generation of looking like garbage because Nintendo found out about trilinear filtering and Sony hadn't learned about anything related to computer rendering since 1980?
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>>339011608
>this level of blatant bait
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>>339023830
The guy that did space invaders did 10 games before it, with the first being in 73:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomohiro_Nishikado
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>>339012905
4k/30fps for some game is a very possible scenario.
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>>339024048
The PS1 was actually quite good for the size of the chip and budget they had.
The thing offloaded ALL the 3D tasks to specialized chips, which made its puny 33Mhz CPU be able to handle pentium levels of 3D.
But there were no space for perspective correction or bilinear filtering there.
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>>339024213
I think you mean 4k/up to 30fps, like how regular PS4 games are 900p/up to 30fps
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>>339024048
I don't understand why people say 5th gen games aged badly. If anything, they aged better because they still had some artistic designs into the visuals to overcome hardware shortcomings. It's why Crash Bandicoot still looks great while San Andreas looks like shit.

Everything looked like shit on 64, though.

>>339024136
Huh, well that's interesting. Funny how Taito went from being one of the first Japanese developers, pioneers of game design, and creator of hundreds of amazing IPs, and then faded to irrelevance before being swallowed by Square Enix.
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>>339024296
Taito probably cashed too much on nostalgia.
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>>339024296
It's because Sony lacked basic shit like floating point mathematics that means every surface looks like it's having a seizure when in motion

Playstation games actually look kind of okay emulated
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>normal ps4 owners will be degraded to second class citizens
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>>339022768

easy
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>>339024427
Actually, floating point math was only a thing on the sega Dreamcast and up.
The real issue here is that PS1 used 16bit integer math, which well made the 3D world quite jumpy.
N64 was also designed for 16bit math on its powerful coprocessor, but nintendo forced the developers to emulate 32bit math with it, which well wasted quite a lot of performance, but made the geometry less jumpy.
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>>339024281
>4k/up to 30fps

nigga, you have no clue what the fuck youre talking about.
the neo will be capable of 4k output in the form of movies and nothing more
same for the scorpio.

for them to be able to reach 4k/30 theyd need at least amd fury/ nvidia 980 performance
and I'm pretty sure neither company will sell consoles at such a huge loss.
oh, and their processors are still shitty notebook crap.
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>>339024452
all 40 million of them, including me
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I feel bad for early ps4 adopters.

They must feel worse than dogshit now.
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>>339025247
Even if they did, the console would most likely summon Flame Hyenard's spirit when trying to pack all that power in a which is essentially a laptop form factor.
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>>339022337
> we
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>>339011608
Does your dad's uncle work for Nintendo too?
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>>339024619
That's not a PC game, it's a multiplat game
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>>339018374
Sounds like pcfags won't have much to shitpost with the gap closing
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>>339026980
It won't be as nearly as powerful as the Geforce 1080p, will have as much games that use the full power.
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>>339026596

It's a game on pc. A pc game. Should have said a pc exclusive then.

But you didn't. You fucked up and now you look like a retard. I win ;)
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>>339026980
Sorry to inform you that the gap in price/performance is just utterly ruined because of this. GTX 1070's price is $375 MSRP now, 6.5 TFLOP.

You are already looking at a very real situation where both Scorpio and Neo cannot deliver enough c/p to crush a Skylake build that with that card at $700 TODAY. All sources indicate that the Scorpio/Neo aren't going to be $400 at launch price at all, and god forbid if the GTX 1070's price doesn't slide further down to $300.

If you want to defend gen 8, you better go back to the PS4 library > PC library. Frankly, Xbox one is just a stripped down Win10 box, so don't even bother defend that.
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>>339026980
Unless the Neo is going to cost quite a large sum, 4k at any kind of acceptable framerate is right out the window.
At sub 1k ranges, you choose between graphics, resolution, and framerate. You don't even get 2/3.
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>>339011608
Yeah, my dad works for Sony and he said it has a 2GB SSD, uses dual NVIDIA Titans, can play every game from previous generations including XBox 360 games somehow, and easily gets 120 fps at 4K. On top that they're only selling it for $300, I guess they're planning to make the money back on exclusives.
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>>339012649

xbox scorpio sounds like some kind of vaping device for fedora wearers.
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>>339027725
>Titans
You need to learn how to troll better when AMD has the balls of all the console makers. That shit's common knowledge.
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>>339012913
They'd probably name it something like THE Xbox
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XBOX TEW powered by MountainDew.
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>>339023560
Because they increase the graphics settings for screenshots, you dummy
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>>339023886
Nah
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>>339011608
>2D-3D TYPE OF LEAP
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Go back to neogaf
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why are soniponies so defensive about their console
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I would call it xbox struggle (or fighter) and ps4.5.

To bad that this generation raped the customer. 40 million ps4 sold and next year a new one.
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>TFW still believe all these rumors are bullshit like PS4 having DRM leading up to E3 2013
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>>339011608
>Nintendo released the Wii U too early, it was weaker than what the competition was coming out with not much later, failed because of it
>Now Sony and Microsoft are releasing THEIR new consoles way too early, and they're going to be weaker than the NX which launches only a few months later

it's


...wow
...

its like...pottery...
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>>339030535
When you buy a PS4, you're making a contract with a magical creature to have your gaming wishes fulfilled in trade of becoming a magical fanboy.
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>>339024452
So every PCuck who don't have newest GPU
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>>339024281
>like how regular PS4 games are 900p/up to 30fps

99% of PS4 games run at 1080p, you mistaken it for your PC.
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>>339011608
Nice anon. I happened to see the PlayStation 5 and it's CRAZY
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>>339034350
I been there too.
I really didn't expected an ARM/PowerVR console to actually be that fast, but seems like the low power design paid off.
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>>339020292
It's not even real AO, I'm pretty sure it's a baked lightmap.
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It's like the fucking bit war again, but this time it's just made up numbers by medias on the ass-end of their lives.

The "neo" and the "scorpio" don't exist in the light the game medias are showing them. They're both slim models with no other enhancements besides 4K Blu-rays and HDMI 2.0
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>>339031262
Let's be honest Nintendo isn't gonna do that since they always play it way to safe and wanna sell their consoles at profit.
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>>339034689
The bit wars were funny if you actually know the real numbers.
The second fastest 16 bit console CPU wise was 8bit, and the first place was neo geo, and well, crysis is a 32bit game.
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>Believing it's a graphics update

No
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>>339012990
The Neo power number is an estimate and Scorpio's is a target

Holy shit fagboys it's not hard
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>>339031262
>and they're going to be weaker than the NX
When is the last time Nintendo had the strongest console?
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>>339011608
I don't know if true shilling or bad false flagging
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>>339035848
bad flagging.
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>>339018578
Man, I really wanted Natural Doctrine to be good..
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>>339011608
and people wonder why the word "sonyger" exists.
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>>339017369
Microsoft decided take money from the hardware side of things and invest it in kinetic. Thinking it would give them a unique edge over the ps4 the same way the wii's motion sensor controller let it stand out from the more powerful ps3/360. Problem with this thinking is they didn't realize that the xbones target audience doesn't care about the kinetic and that 3rd party developers aren't willing to waste money on features that only represent approx 1/3 of total sales.
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>>339024452
>PS4 NEO owners will still be second class citizens compared to PC
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>>339022006
>Also the redesign of the cooling system to handle the extra heat,

>6 teraflop xbone
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>>339039261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOVjZqC1AE4
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>>339034190
Uncharted 4 mp not
Final Fantasy XV no
Battlefront no
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Still using the PC/PS3/WiiU holy trinity for now

Nier Automata or Yakuza Kimawi/6 will push me to spring for one. If the 4.5 winds up giving older releases tangible performance boosts (60 FPS Bloodbourne) I might spring for one. Otherwise, I look forward to the price drop of the original model
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>>339040738
You name 2 games and one mode. Quite autistic definition of "regular".
>>339038675
More like opposite. Usual PCuck have worse PC than old PS4, with upgrade PCucks will be third class citizens
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>>339041548
any PC user that has atleast 600-700 bucks beats any console easy
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>>339041607
So almost none.
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>>339041548

>what is upgrading

Most pc users upgrade in a big jump like is about to happen especially with new apis around

Then again dumb sonycucks like yourselves don't know of this

Enjoy paying more years of ps plus like the cuck you are though
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>>339041691
oh wow how do you know how much money most PC users spent on their machine
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>>339041739
Most PCucks play on shitty hardware, check what most popular PC games are. That's why they are so insecure and defensive about their system. Other reason is lack of games
>>339041750
Check any steam survey. Low, cheap GPU are much popular.
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>>339032253
Well that's not soo much 63% of steam users are playing in good quality while nearly to the 100% going to be degraded to secondary citizen in ps4
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I know how much /v/ likes to falseflag and shitpost, but in all seriousness is it worth the multiple month wait for a PS4K?

I don't own a 4k TV and probably never will
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>>339012905
You do know that playing games in 4k on ULTRA is barely possible right now but playing in 4k on low/medium is pretty easy thing?
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>>339041739
>Most pc users upgrade in a big jump

From 15fps to 20fps at 800p?
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>>339041750
Because Pkeks with at least a 970 is still less than 10% of the PC market
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>>339041893

mmmm nop.
Primary Display Resolution 1920 x 1080 36.42% -0.08%
Multi-Monitor Desktop Resolution 3840 x 1080 30.11% -0.07%
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
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>>339041914
>63% of steam users are playing in good quality

If you consider WiiU graphics good quality than yes. They are still second class citizens to PS4 and soon will be third.
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>>339042048

Nop just look >>339042021
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>>339042021
>only 36% of PCucks can even reach 1080p
>monitor resolution = game resolution

PCucks are dumb as fuck.
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>>339042180
Unfortunately, I expect game to natively support 4k or 2660x1440 resolution. You don't.
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>>339042578
And then you wake up and play Undertale because your PC can't run anything more?
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>>339042180
Read dumb
36% can reach 1080 and 30% of users play more than 1080 using multimonitor.
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>>339042138
If I have 4k TV that means my WiiU is 4k machine now? Damn.
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>>339042828
Nop, but that doesn't change than mostly of pc users play better than ps4.
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>>339042794
Read you idiot
>>339042828
Are you retarded or just pretending?
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>>339042897
No, they really don't. And your source as argument just falled apart,
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>>339041893

Because there are millions of users and over 125 million at the start of 2015

Many sonycucks such as yourself make accounts with toasters as well.

But really enjoy playing at sub 20 fps all you want sonycuck.
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>>339042990
>PCucks have shitty hardware
>n-no it's not we, it's Sonycucks!

I don't even play your shitty games PClown. Stop blaiming others for being shit.
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>>339042978
>no arguments
>your source as argument just falled apart
>give valid arguments is not valid.
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>>339043079
>PCucks play games at better resolution
>as argument he posted MONITOR resolution

Why PCucks are so dumb?
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>>339042978
>just falled apart
>falled

Why are sonycucks so fucking dumb?
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>>339042978
>falled
what is fell Alex?
who are we kidding? we all know this is a troll thread
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>>339043273
>get btfo
>name calling instead

PCucks sure are dumb
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>>339043307
Why do you post PCucks arguments image? I know they are stupid, don't have to remind me.
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>>339031504
>"I wish... for ANOTHER Uncharted game!"
How horrifying
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>>339011608
It will not be a big leap. Technology just hasnt advanced enough yet.

Probably R9 380x or R9 390 GPU performance and an overclocked 14nm jaguar cpu. Enough to play games at 60fps 1080p or even 1440p, but nothing huge.
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>>339043356
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>>339043356

>gives subjective evidence "no they really don't"
>thinks this is being btfo

Not even that guy just pointing out how dumb you sonycucks are. You can't even form a coherent sentence.
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>>339011608
what a shill
with darkness and silence through the night
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>>339043496
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>>339043496
that gif is so arousing and I hate it.
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>>339043541
What subjective evidence? Do you think monitor resolution = hardware that can output any game ad said resolution? Mty god, you are one dumb fucking retard like usual PCunts posting here.
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Just a reminder that every PS4 game starts as a PC game, written on visual studio and only when it is on a good enough state, they port and optimize it to PS4.
If suddenly PCs stopped displaying 3D accelerated graphics, ALL PS4 games would be cancelled, because would be basically impossible to develop em.
The last guardian would never get released.
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>>339025247

Well they could do 4k@144Hz if the graphics are simple enough. Something modern looking though, probably not.
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>>339014023

You can emulate the PS1 and (most of the) PS2 pretty easily these days.

PS3 backward compat would be the only interesting thing.
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>>339020292

You're overdoing it. His picture is not that impressive but the textures are pretty good, especially for a console game. The models seem pretty low-poly but they hide it well (except for that jug at the bottom left, but maybe it's just more obvious because it's closer to the camera).
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>>339043159
(Non sli users added and non r9 300 specified)
7.365.000 users owns a gtx970
4.710.000 users own a gtx960
3.105.000 of users have a gtx 760
2.355.000 of users use at least an r9
2.385.000 of users use a gtx660
4.065.000 of users use a gtx750ti
780.000 of users have a gtx950
660.000 of users have a gtx660ti
2.866.000 of users play with HD7900 series

25.906.000 play steam in HD in similar ps4 quality.
You have a point for screen resolution but is still 4 million users more than xbox.
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>>339044649
(at least)
Not similar is at least.
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If you mean native resolution of the game, well here's Attila on my rig.
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Well, at least I'm happy that resolution increases at a steady rate again. After the switch from CRTs to LCDs resolution have stagnated for a long time.

I had a CRT capable of rendering 1920x1440 in ~2005, and it wasn't super expensive either. I can't wait until good 4k screens become cheaper (and the GPU to go with it). Do you even need antialiasing anymore at this resolution for a PC monitor?
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>>339044649
>7.365.000 users owns a gtx970
>4.710.000 users own a gtx960

Damn, that's not even half of PS4 owners and really small amount of all PCucks on steam.
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>>339044649
I'm not sure but steam charts give me about 16.300.000 playing in GPU with more than 4gb vram
(Can be mobile tier and some of the r9 300 family which aren't specified in the charts)

And 35.760.000 users play with at least 2gb vram (mobile and low - mid and high tier graphics like hd7970 for example)
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>>339011608
NeoGAF just might believe you, Sonybrony Dash
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>>339022735

This is very important. Microsoft has a long legacy of incompetence fucking shit up despite actual quality work. With Windows 10 they're even getting worse.
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>>339045091
4 million more than xbox users and 25.906.000 playing better than xbox and at least 15.000.000 of users playing better than ps4.
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>>339045284
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>>339045359
another part (10.906.000) is playing at least or similar to ps4
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>>339045416
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>>339045359
So most of them play at worse than consoles. Feels good to be right all the time.
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>>339045516
>PC fans: I love video games
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>>339044968
I do turn on AA still at 3440x1440. 4x.
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>>339044008
>I'm retarded the post
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The truth is that PC is the second console on this generation.
Its PS4, PC, Xbone and WiiU.
Its the first generation in years that PC is that much of a threat, thus why the constant "PCCucks" and all this bullshit, when on the last generation was mostly Xdrones vs Sonyfags.
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>>339045860
Xbox and PC might as well as to be treated as one single block.
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>>339045524
nop charts say not.
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I'm happy the PS4K is coming out

now i can buy a used PS4 for cheap as fuck and play its one game, bloodborne
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>>339045848
While it sound simplistic and obvious at first, you have to remember that if PC didn't had games pushing the hardware, PC would not have high end videocards, not cheap enough to have a big studio ones.
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>>339045989
Yes they do, 15mln is small percentage of 120 mln steam useres and les than 40 mln PS4 owners. PCucks can't even count properly.
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>>339045637
>don't caring about daily never ever pcucks.
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>>339046109
4 million more than xbox and 15 million of users play better than ps4 ()
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>>339046130
>getting btfo
>by posting no argument

Only PCuck could be this desperate.
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>>339046197
and don't forget the other 10.500.000 which this sony drone hasn't added.
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>>339046197
So that means most of them don't. You can read properly or still have problem?
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They've barely been out for two years and people seriously think they are going to release a new one? Fucking gullible.
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>>339046285
is the same with sonyggers, but sonyggers start every fight too is /v you can't deny it.
An image is valid as argument too.
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>>339045860

It's why sonycucks are so apprehensive

They have to eat shittier framerates and pay for online like pathetic dumb cucks on the same games.
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>>339046398
this has to be bait no one can't be so stupid like you.
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>>339046317
What 10 mln PCuck? That's still less than 40mln PS4 owners and small percentage of steam.
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>>339011608
go fuck yourself sony, we know your company is behind this post
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>>339031000
Ps4 did have drm but they removed it last minute.
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>>339046502
What bait? You still can't count or read? Or maybe both?
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>>339046431
PCucks pay for unreleased games and multiple online fees. There is reason why everyone call them cucks.
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>>339046601
Steam charts say 25.906.000 users play better than ps4 users (I haven't count mobile tier GPU which there's some which outperform the ps4 in many games).
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>>339046695
>Implying this doesn't happen in PS4
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>>339046775
So that number (still generous) is smaller than PS4 owners number, and less than 25% of PCucks. So like I said, most PCucks have weaker gaming rigs.
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>>339046695
>There is reason

Are you that same dumb sonycuck that gets so mad he can't use proper grammer?

Either way sonycuck, your ilk pays for unreleased game in masses it's called pre ordering. Not to mention sony showing shemue kickstarter and having you sonycucks jumping all over it. Multiple online fees? That's not the same as an online paywall for basic games you dumb retarded sonycuck. Try playing cod online without that sub.
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>>339017369
Get better exclusives and more weeb games.
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>>339046869
>multiple online fees
>paying for unreleased games

Nope
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>>339046965
and? that doesn't change the 25.900.000 users who play better than ps4 (without add tier mobile).
If you want to talk about users numbers then ps4 is just a minimal % of pc users.
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>>339046695
>unreleased games
That's because unfinished PC games are better than consoleturd """"finished""""" products.
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>>339046968
>preordering

That's still paying for game that exist. PCucks are paying for games that are not finished and sometimes never get finished. They also pay multiple subs for MMO and MOBA games, and play at shitty framerate (most of them have PC worse than Xbone). They eat shit and proud of eating shit. That's why everyone call them cucks.
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>>339047042
>paying for p2p services
>paying for discounts
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>>339047227
Implying MOBA aren't funny
Why ps4 users shits over everything that is on PC, MOBA are funnier than any ps4 games and has more users because that. Are funny to play.
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>>339047173
>and?
And that means most PCucks play with graphics and framerate worse than console owners which my point all along you tried to disprove and got btfo hard? Aside of that nothing really.
>>339047175
This is what PCucks actually believe.
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>>339041548
Man sonyggers get triggered so easily
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>>339047602
and? gaming minorie.
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>>339047460
>it's fun
>so I will pull out all my money like cuck
>>339047253
>paying for even get access to fucking game you bought
>paying for p2p services
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