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How's everyone enjoying Warhammer so far? Made the mistake of making vamps my vassal, now their shitty corruption is spreading into my mountains..
It's fun
>Can't catch chaos armies because AI abuses the red circle and you will never have enough movememt points to catch em
Other than that, the game has been great so far. The confederation system makes sure the AI keeps up with your at some level. Empire campaign is soon done, as soon as I catch that motherfucking chaos army.
pretty fuckin rad
>>338977414
>Go to buy game
>"You already own Total War: Warhammer"
>Check gifts
>Check past statements
>Even check my bank and credit cards
I never bought this game and no one ever gifted it to me yet I own it. Is this just a lucky day or will valve eat my account?
Crack when????
Dont tell me I bought this €1500 pc for nothing
>that feel when you finally wipe out all settlements in the far north
this took way too long
>>338979005
It has Denuvo, it's not going to be. If you had the money to buy a PC then you have the money to buy games to play on it.
>>338979067
>stack of just pikes
but why
>>338979067
Skyrim reference? CA confirmed for bros.
>>338977414
Pick dwarves. Dwarf brethren nearest to me took all my greenskin camps before I had the chance. Now archaon is going to come for me. Better grab some lube. Or maybe some allies.
>>338979676
Becuase;
>Cheap to maintain
>Easy to Replenish
>Stack of them can wipe out any army the far northern factions can send against them
The cash you save you can spend on other shit
>>338979676
They're cheap and get quite strong if you put 3 points to that skill that enhances their melee attack and defence.
>>338977414
Well apparently I'm never ever going to get to play it so pretty disappointed.
is this game harder than previous total wars or do i just suck
>>338980445
Yep. AI seems miles better. During battles its actually strategics aware.
>chaos army pre-order dlc
I refuse.
>>338980445
Way harder. The AI is better and there's a lot of unbalance in terms of units and especially heroes. A higher level Lord than what you have can singlehandedly destroy your whole force.
>>338979676
Auto-resolve stack.
>>338980708
also for the first week.
Tips for a beginner?
>>338980445
What difficulty you on? I'm playing on hard and whilst I'm surviving, it's taking far too long to progress and expand. (One step forward one step back) I'm on turn 120 and only own Reikland
It's fun as fuck but basically I don't want to get burnt out on one faction, is normal still challenging?
Why it is not called "Total Warhammer" ????
>>338979676
Its pretty broken to just spam a 20 stack of low level units with early tech upgrades. Always has been.
I quit Rome 2 because I got tired of enemy factions running around with 20 stacks of shit tier units while I spend so much gold and upkeep on good units that just get stomped
>>338981051
Whatever you do, you should never let
>>338981212
Trademarks and licensing issues.
lvl 5 city, lvl 3 gate, full stack of ironbreakers, irondrakes, organ guns, thunderers, slayers and cannons
Can I do it lads?
>>338981212
STOP
>>338981048
That doesn't make it any better.
>>338981062
I found that you really need to succeed on an early blitz. Spend the first turn or two building units, and then immediately take your whole province, and then a second.
>>338979676
Have you seen the stats for the basic empire units like the spearmen and swordsmen? They are really fucking good when compared to other races. Half the time you should comprise most of your army of them and keep other units to specialize just in case,
>>338981212
Two IPs to protect brand recognition. Who cares though really
>>338981051
>Don't expand just because you can
>build your army based around what you are fighting
>Some buildings are best built in the capital of the province because it can reach higher tiers
>get a port if you can for trade
>Don't trespass unless you have too
>build up funds when you can - don't be scared to disband units
When does the first patch come out?
>Playing Orks
>Dwarfs won't leave me be
>Expanded a bit too much too fast
>Verging on bankruptcy
>Losing recently captured territory
>Faction leader and Lords keep getting killed
>Low fightiness but lack of money depleting my forces too much to be aggressive at all
>Level 8 fucking Dwarf king parks outside my second largest city with a full stack
I think it's all over for me. Fucking manlets REEEEEEEEEE
>Legendary Chaos campaign
>10+ game overs
>Finally manage to get a good start
>3 awakened tribes
>Vargs wiped out
>Kraka Drak with only 1 settlement left
>Archaon's army only but full of chaos warriors
>"Let's take on the Skaelings"
>End turn
>6 Skaelings full armies pop out of the fog of war
>They attack you
>You retreat, they attack you again
>Stand your ground in a corner of the map, push back 9k troops with your 1500.
>You're surrounded and can't go anywhere next turn
>They attack you again
Fuck my life, fuck the Skaelings. Fuck the awakened tribes declaring war on each other.
>Denuvo
>>338981648
I agree, but honestly if you dont buy it now by the time you plan to that shitll be like a dollar anyway
>>338982475
cry more, poorfag anime loving faggot
>>338981648
It does because it is literally irrelevant to my enjoyment of the game. If you don't decide to buy it in the first week then why would you buy it the second week?
>>338978096
great screenshot if that's your own
>>338982475
wtf is Denuvo and why is everyone ass mad over it? I bought the game on steam and am still currently playing it but I still don't know wtf Denuvo is.
Will this run better or worse than Attila?
>>338983196
DRM, which is currently a pain to crack apparently
>>338981048
You are just looking for excuses to not buy it. Imagine if there was no chaos DLC, would you buy it in the first week? If yes then you should do it now/this week. If no then your complains are meaningless, you were never going to buy it anyway.
>>338983353
Good. Fuck off or buy the game, scum.
>>338982254
What's even the point of awakening tribes?
Can anyone recommend a build for an awesome Dwarf army?
>>338983353
So pirates are mad that it's kinda difficult to pirate?
>>338981520
no ur fukked
>>338982254
You could even win while exploiting the corner?
>>338983386
I'm legit lad
>>338983546
more likely funposters funposting
>>338983546
Probably. Right now it's a gamble to buy it and you can end up throwing $60 out the window. That's simply dumb even when you're not poor, and especially when it's for the company that made Rome 2.
>>338983865
$60 is pretty insignificant
>>338983305
People will probably tell you it runs better, but it still runs pretty poorly.
Archaon or however you spell it was overhyped garbage. He intercepted one of my dwarf armies underground as I was getting my other armies in position to fight him and he got trashed anyway. Probably time to purge the VC now that that's been dealt with. Regardless, the game is quite fun and adds a lot of interesting twists to the usual Total War gameplay. After Rome 2 and all its ridiculous bullshit I'm glad CA was able to turn it around for this game.
>>338983930
does that mean you're giving out copies, bro?
>>338983930
So is your life but I encourage you not to throw it away because of this.
I'm not a huge fan of this grudge mechanic. I take a leadership, public order, and diplomatic hit because I don't take revenge on every enemy agent action......
>>338983305
Quite a lot better. I run atilla on medium, this runs fine on high.
>>338984064
Yes, I've bought two friends a copy.
Lords break this game. I just sent 1800 Orks against 700 Dwarfs and still lost because their Lord was 3 or 4 levels higher and literally just killed everything himself. This is fucking retarded.
>>338984020
Well I had a different experience as VC where I had to fight Archaon with 2 full stacks with my own 2 full stacks.
I won that but that was the most intense fight of any total war battle I had.
>>338983196
nothing, it doesn't even affect your gameplay. Just have fun and carry on. Make fun of the pirates tho lmao
>>338984215
Well to be fair, depending on what you and he had, 1800 orcs aren't going to win against 700 dwarfs.
>When you starve out the enemy
>>338984129
Why are you the grudge faction then?
The Dwarf king is suppose to solve grudges. Grudge is even in his fucking Surname.
>>338978904
Do you shares your games with someone on steam?
>>338984326
In an open field without any cannons and guns? All he had were quarrellers, basic warriors, miners, and a single grudge thrower that I flanked and killed immediately. I think fucking not.
>>338984425
I get that, but I don't like the penalty that comes with ignoring stupid agent actions.
>>338984229
I was a bit lucky I suppose, since his wizard buddy on the nazgul was still two turns away when I caught up to him. But Archaons force didn't seem particularly deadly compared to the Orc hordes I'd been dealing with for the rest of the campaign.
>>338984215
1800 orcs don't guarante you are gonna win against 700 dwarfs.
Dwarfs are the strongest. Not even 5 units of goblins can beat 1 dwarven unit.
I was almost positive that I was going to lose this, there were so many fucking undead shits on the map.
So how do I expand as Vampire Courts? I took over both Sylvanian provinces pretty quickly but no idea where to go from there. I've got orks, dwarves and two different human factions to share borders with, the Empire already confederated with Stirling and corruption spreads slow as fuck.
>>338984510
Why would you ignore it though?
>>338984353
they are probably all cannibals too
i played for a bit as the humans
got the province, then attacked the guys to the north, tod something
got rekt in the first fight then gave up
tried chaos
capped the first town, then moved in on the next.
dwarves moved in with too many troops and i tried fighting anyway because the ai is pretty bad
then i lost and gave up
it's an ok game i guess, kind of boring but im pretty bad at it i think.
>>338984657
What the hell is this? 3500 undead fucking shits vs 1400 glorious imperials?
Manlets! When will they ever learn?
>>338984657
>Zombies
I'm not impressed.
>>338984657
>Undead army with mostly skellies and zombies
Yeah, unless you're also playing undead or you're stupid, there's no way you'd lose that.
>>338984657
>nothing but skeletons and zombies
how could you lose?
>>338984892
>lost twice
>"Im pretty bad I THINK"
lol what a fucking shitter.
If the AI was bad you would have won. In previous games the AI could come at me with any number of units and I would still win because they are retarded. They aren't retarded this time.
>>338984743
Humans are your food senpai. Corrupt, use agents, raid, loot, expand. The empire is yours. Brostein will be the first true eternal emperor.
>>338981051
If you're playing dwarfs, then take Gunbad as soon as possible.
>>338984743
You need to expand to the empire. You can't take dwarf/greenskin territory. You kinda want to take on some easy pickings before the empire confederates everything.
Your hero units can be used to spread aids faster. If it's close to your borders you can just ignore it though, because you won't get damaged from not having enough corruption if you're sieging/in a city.
>hey I can see my crypt from up here
>>338983469
You regenerate troops rapidly on their turf.
I really like it so far, but holy shit do lords need nerfed. AI is also really annoying with agents, like 3 of each type 5 turns in. Diplomacy is still silly too. At war with Counts, never even fought, they sue for peace and give me gold. Immediately after my allies offer me gold to go to war with VCs again. Next turn the cycle repeats.
>>338985265
>because you won't get damaged from not having enough corruption if you're sieging/in a city.
i dont think that's true
>>338985379
Were your allies fighting VC?
>>338985440
I'm pretty sure it is, actually.
>>338979067
Is there an easy way to get through all the attrition in skaeling lands? I've only raided the coastal cities because of it, but they'll just recolonize soon enough.
>>338984892
The game is just an unbalanced mess, try some of the other Total War games if you're interested as they are much more dependent on skill and strategy.
>>338982172
>I just started playing the orks.
>As soon as I took over the tutorial enemy orks main city some dwarves nearby offered me peace and gold.
>I take it.
>I start mopping up the remnants of the tutorial enemy orks.
>Suddenly out of nowhere appears a seriously pissed Thorgrim Grudgebearer.
>He completely destroys the tiny garrision in the previously captured city.
>He then proceeds to wait for my green ass.
Help.
>>338985570
'Easy' but tiresome, move your army half their range each turn and then encamp
>>338985603
Made me smile. I pity those that fall for this bait.
>>338985564
They declared war maybe 10 turns in, then never fought. Allied dwarves came south to fight greenskins instead, vamps went after empire.
>>338985603
kek
What happened to all the formations? Where are the city battles?
>>338985662
Orcs, not orkcs. Orks are the 40k aliens, these are orcs.
>>338985603
>The game is just an unbalanced mess
>try some of the other Total War games
Yeah, because if there's one thing TW games are known for it's balance.
hey can i change troop sizes mid game, just want to know if I need to restart cause I'm not that far into it,
>>338985826
you need walls to have a city battle in a level 1-2??? city I think.
>>338986015
i dont think you can.
>>338985826
city battles were annoying, slow, and too easy on the defender side. They were removed and thank god for that.
What formations? This isn't Rome.
>>338981247
The northen factions are supposed to be a supplement to Chaos, they are meant to spam you with marauders and axe throwing horsemen
>>338986070
k thanks
>>338985970
Wow, that's a hideous mess of jagged corners.
What settings are you using?
>>338985848
This is a good image. I got goosebumps just by looking at it.
Spooky.
How can I into Dwarfs? My cannons and organ guns do jack shit on the enemy approach, and they become useless in the close range melee. I thought that was the Dawi way: gun 'em down and axe/hammer up the survivors
>>338984892
>i tried fighting anyway because the ai is pretty bad
>then i lost and gave up
fucking Kekk, use your fucking brain
What settings affect fps the most? I'm trying to get 60 fps. I get 30 on ultra and high.
>>338985826
It is good that city battles got removed.
End game TW was siege after siege after siege.
Also AI isn't good enough to navigate siege battles. I remember in Attila using something like 8 units to hold off multiple doom stacks simply because I would block off a street with barricade + a strong infantry and just funnel them into a killzone.
>>338985893
My mistake.
>>338986078
Give it a break shill, I've already bought your game and plan on sucking CA dick for every piece of wallet milking DLC despite the game's faults.
>>338986078
Defending a city was very satisfying. Formations were in more than just Rome...
This game is alot easier if you played the Age of Charlamange campaign on Attila. Many of the ideas in Warhammer were pretty much beta tested on Attila
>>338986516
The province to the direct north of your starting province makes the most broken ranged units, They get huge buffs if you make them there.
Other than that, just don't move with your dwarfs. Let the enemy come to you. Have like 2 cannons blasting faggots.
>>338986716
SSO destroys the FPS.
>>338978096
that cant be in game
It's my first Total War game so I'm still learning the ropes but it's super-fun. Couple of questions:
Do I need to get a 20/20 army as soon as possible? On my first Empire game I noticed Vamps were rolling around their areas with a 19/20 by around turn 50 or so.
When I want to take a province I guess I need to hunt down wandering lords and their armies first to prevent them from attacking me while I siege a city?
Can garrisons 'sally forth' so to speak or once I lay siege are they all stuck inside unless a Lord comes to help them?
Empire seem to have a some of basic units nearly the same. Is there really such a big difference between Swordsmen and Shielded Spearmen?
>>338986834
The point was that formations are tight to historical usages of them, this isn't historical. You can make your own formations anyway.
It wasn't satisfying for the attacker.
I kinda miss governors and family/faction tree. I understand why they took it out though.
>>338986983
It is anon, just press K
>>338986716
nothing apparently,I get 30fps on ultra on a multi thousand dollar pc that can run anything but this.
>>338986983
You are not on max settings.
You are not in replay mode.
>>338986834
>sticking a unit in a chokepoint and hitting 6x speed
>satisfying
Yeah, nah.
>>338987062
Governors were replaced by captains and shit.
Family trees are worthless here, game is not long enough for anyone to die of old age.
God damn Orcs.........
>>338986867
>expecting /v/ to own Attila
It was hard enough already to convince the memeposters than this game is okay. For Attila it would have been impossible.
Rome 2 is a meme near the same levels than Tortanic in this meme ridden community.
>>338987476
>-1093
I'm loving it so far playing as the dwarfs bult a massive empire out of confederating with all my dwarven buds and got the mod to occupy any city. It was entertaining to see the VCs beg for peace with more money each time until I took their capital and they became vassals. The sudden invasion from the southern chaos guys was not pleasant tho when all my armies were north and i didnt build any gates.
>>338986516
I've only used a bit of arty so far. But it seems betterr to keep the arty further back with some spears or cav to protect it. To kill whilst the fighting is going on rather the approach
>>338987571
Just had two dwarf factions join me.
>it took them since fucking EMPIRE to ditch the one on one combat animation bullshit
Fucking hell CA
>>338987697
Do people really play with that shitty mod?
what should I do for my first run, /v/
>>338987753
>having such a god awful toaster that you complain about that
The game is dull as fuck without those.
>>338987798
>do you really enjoy the freedom to conquer whatever you want like previous total war titles
>>338987753
Be glad not angry.
>>338981520
Yes
Level 5 city with lvl 3 towers is fucking insane, ive held multiple doomstacks with just the garrison alone
>>338986992
Yes, you'll also need multiple lords and heroes at some point, by turn 100 you should have 10,000 troops
If you can sell all the lords move into one city you can just siege and encircle them and they shouldn't be able to move as-long as you have enough troops. If you see lords wandering about make sure you engage them WELL AWAY from cities, you'll be surprised at the range of reinforcement. If you can try and lure them into your borders so they're cut off.
Yes, if you are laying siege to a city and the garrison has a higher force than your lord, they will sally out to attack you.
The difference is counters, swordsmen would be best for fighting missle troops and other infantry, spearmen are used for cavalry and large monsters counters, shielded is also a trait, it means your mean are mostly shielded from incoming arrow fire, but not catapults and such, and I suppose it grants extra defence in combat.
>>338986992
Having 20/20 is essential if you're playing to autoresolve. Otherwise, it's not that big of a deal.
It'll certainly help.
Yes, garrisons can sally forth. They generally will once supplies run out and they start taking attrition.
Check their unit stats. Swordsmen are more offensive units with higher attack and charge bonus, but a lower defense. Shielded spearmen are meant to be used as a more stationary defensive unit and does bonus damage against large units and cavalry.
>not having two units of these fuckers in every army
Explain yourself
>>338987970
Destroying > conquering
>>338987753
There are actually autists crying about them taking it out.
>mfw a zombie gets a kill
>full stack of roflcopter bombers
>rain hot fiery death on chaos scum
>have to retreat cos no ammo
>>338988012
>If you can sell all the lords
If you can, get* all the lords
>>338988054
Anon pls, step up.
>4 Graveguards
>4 Great Weapon Graveguards
>2 Crypt Horrors (those big guys)
>3 Black Rider (Lances & Barding)
>2 Varghulfs
>3 Vargheists
>1 Terrorgheist
>Mannfred von Carstein
Picture not entirely related as I was using a different composition this battle.
>>338988151
no?
>>338986916
>>338987086
>>338986716
I thought it was well optimized?
Did I get memed? Haven't spent my money yet
>>338984210
>I'll never have rich friends
>>338988518
It is. Just because Ultra demands a good computer doesn't mean its not optmized.
SSO is an option in the settings that you should always disable. its denuvo.
>>338988410
Switch one vargheist to another terrogheist and thats optimal as fuck
>>338988518
You can literally buy it right now, try it and refund it
>>338983046
its from total war subreddit
Help, I don't know what to name my VC armies besides "Mr. Bones" and "Mr. Skeltal"
>>338988653
What the fuck is SSO?
>>338988410
>ui on
why
thats not cinematic
>>338988518
People using i3 laptops have been posting here.
>>338988518
Shills have been spouting all sorts of bullshit about this game, but no the game is not well optimized. Still runs pretty poorly, slightly better than Attila sure, but only because they downgraded the fuck out of the graphics and removed tons of demanding features like matched combat and full city sieges. Also they partnered with AMD so if you've got an Nvidia GPU, it will run worse.
>>338988518
runs better than dark souls 3 for me, doesn't really say much but since my crappy pc can run it i assume its decently optimised
>>338988731
Youre playing von carsteins.
Just give them romanian names
>>338988734
I think he means SSAO, screen space ambient occlusion.
>>338988812
doubt it
>>338988856
what rig you got?
wondering if my ancient cpu can run it.
>>338979005
Pshitter detected
>>338988664
Is it? Because I'm awful at Total War games in general, I just feel like having fliers helps out a ton for taking out artillery or quick units.
>>338988736How do I turn it off?
>>338988982
'K'
>>338988914
I just give my lords random generic names, like:
Bob von Carstein
Phil von Carstein
Fred von Carstein
Gordon von Carstein
>>338988953
>doubt it
I have been here and seen it, you haven't.
>>338989073
I've been in a lot of warhammer threads on /v/ lately and I have seen no such thing.
>>338988827
Nvidia here, it runs fine.
980 runs bad though, it runs better on 960
>>338987948
I'm biting the bait
It has nothing to do with performance. One on one combat meant any numerical advantage wasn't properly represented in melee; two couldn't hang up against one, and every scrum was artificially lengthened by duels having to take place, not to mention how stupid the idea that people take turns fighting is.
>dull
Die you autistic child.
>>338989180
I have been here since launch day
>>338989054
Thank you very much, anon. I shall make use of this for future pictures.
I'm having a great time but I'm gonna use a mod for a later Chaos invasion on my second playthrough, it's really fucking annoying.
Also there's a mod out now on the workshop to weaken those ridiculous stronghold towers, gonna try that too.
>>338989363
Same friend. Oddly enough everytime I ask for details it's either
1) I didn't save the anon's specs
2) Anon that claims he's running on a toaster just never replies back
>>338988410
Dayum that looks so good, gotta start saving for a new pc
>>338989242
This.
>>338988953
by can run it i mean 30 fps on med graphics with occasional hitches but ive been used to that or worse for a long time.
>>338989521
Why would he reply back? he is playing the game, duh.
And why would I or anyone else save someone else's speccy? Thats retarted.
Also there is even a pasta of a guy happy Sigmar smiled on him and let him play the game on his toaster.
>>338989759
>Thats retarted.
>>338989508
git gud shitter stop going for the easy route.
>>338989759
>Why would he reply back?
Gee, I don't know. Maybe because he fucking engaged in a conversation with someone? that's kinda what you do when you're talking to people, you exchange replies.
>>338989398
Do it, your screenshots are gonna look great.
>>338987995
>doomstacks
??
>>338989920
>on my second playthrough
Read again fucker, I'm almost done with my Legendary playthrough with the empire.
Why is combat just zerging? I want to like the game but either I'm bad or combat is whoever is more spread out wins
>denuvo
Oh boy I love throwing away performance.
>>338990021
Most of the time is
>random guy asks what computer you have
>5-15 minutes later some guy replies
>no one replies to him because no one cares about specs
>he leaves to play his new game
The only conversations people in these threads have are about lore, how to play dwarfs, how to stop chaos, and you and me right now. Except for that one awful thread of shitposters vs people that actually own the game, that thread was bad for 300 replies.
I'm only here for the loretalk and screenshots.`
>>338990346
>combat is whoever is more spread out wins
pretty much....
>>338990096
full armies with high level units
>>338989904
I chuckled
>>338990326
Prove it nerd.
>>338990346
1on1 against an anon, see what happens.
>>338987861
WAAAGH
>>338990346
They simplified a lot of things. This is somewhat true, but my first couple battles as dwarfs vs. VC I kept getting my arty flanked by god damn bats.
>>338984657
i like fighting these twats
almost won too
>>338990612
get used to it, manlet. bats and bat dragons all day, every day. nothing you can do about it other than bunching up together but then you just make things even easier for me
:)
:P
XD
xD
xP
:))))))))))
:D?
I fight for M' Lady.
>>338990852
wow, fucking white knight faggots.
>>338990853
Name, on the right side. I think?
I know there is a reference to MMORPG in one of the orcs.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!
>>338991253
Gorgeous.
>>338991253
who has more numbers per unit?
orcs or vamps?
Anyone know if I pay with PayPal using my debit card (the money's in my bank account) where will my refund end up? Will it go to the PayPall account or back to my card?
>>338991518
Me, I have literally millions per sack :^)
>>338991730
what
why are you talking about your testicles
Things are getting interesting.
I'm not very good at this game, particularly the battles.
I had a decent one against Thorgrim though, despite killing him, his Warriors and Hammerers still kicked my ass off the hill I was holding. Also, a rebel army showed up with silver-chevron Black Orks and that one unit killed pretty much my entire army by itself.
I'm enjoying it, but it's very unforgiving. I feel like the Greenskin campaign was made for someone who already understands the game - you need to know how to maintain economy, cities and armies in order to keep your aggression up and I'm not good enough at it to do it well. I think I've over-stretched and become vulnerable, without the economy to back it up or the stability to provide any respite.
I'm not saying that being unforgiving or demanding more of a player is a bad thing, by the way.
>>338991496
Too bad it's fake
>playing dorfs with friends and kind of want to play VC after chaos is getting dull because im doing nothing but chasing the tribes around trying to exterminate them
>enjoy dorfs because gunlines and artillery
are VC fun to play
how long till i can field graveguards and shit instead of standard shit skellies
>>338992143
They can be one of your first upgrades. I usually get them before i go siege templehof so you can get them before your first capitol siege
>>338992143
>are VC fun to play
Yes
>how long till i can field graveguards and shit instead of standard shit skellies
Surprisingly very early.
Really like it so far. About 40 turns into a Vamp campaign. Decided to go with Vamps because the raise dead recruitment option convinced me to buy it in the first place.
>dem Vargheists
>dat spooky campaign map
>dem wraiths
Really enjoying it so far although Chaos just started and its growth rate is ridiculous. Is there any way to counteract its effects? Cos it seems to be background growth and grows irrelevant of whether a Chaos agent is in the region. I feel like in another 15 turns or so I'm gonna have Chaos rebellions out the ass.
>>338992001
You don't know what fake even means.
>>338992143
Trying to run down armies is probably the most annoying thing about the game. Especially when your agents only have about a 30% chance to slow an army down but the AI's odds are apparently about 80%.
>>338992143
VC are great fun to play. corruption can be a bit annoying/tricky early game though. but rolling over with undead hordes is so satisfying. it's hammer and anvil the faction.
>use zombie/skelly hordes to hold enemies in place
>flank and rape them from behind with bats, giant bats and a bat dragon thing
feels good man
also ethereal units are dope. pretty sure ethereal Calvary are the best cav. in the game.
>>338992436
mostly its since all the norscan armies are NOTHING but fucking cavarly
so my chosen and warrriors end up running around trying to catch them unless i just stomp them cause stacks
like turn 122, only got a lvl 3 warshine and 4 base camp for archaon cause growth is slow as hell to get, ive exterminated everything got skaelings but while i was killing the rest they went and occupided a shitload of ruins while now ive got a 17 and 20 stack armies of gelt and karl franz on my ass
heavily considering just squatting this run and going vamp cunts
>>338992690
>growth is slow as hell
Shouldve given him the growth ability
>>338978096
what hero is that?
Any of you fellas wanna play some MP?
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Scivir/
>>338992690
chaos need lots of growth. can't stress this enough.
Is it worth buying?
Played the shit out of shogun 2 but am more a 40k fan
>>338993052
Yet nobody ever picks sigvald despite his free growth.
Poor sigvald.
>>338993240
>40k fan
>>338990852
lmao
Started chaos as my first campaign, shits fucked up with my prince sigvald.
I don't understand what I'm doing but chaos.
>>338979067
>making anyone but Gelt Patriarch
What the fuck are you doing
>>338993296
Because Sigvald looks like a flamboyant hippy when compared to badasses like Archaon.
>>338993595
>ar- "my horns are too big and my glowing helmet ruins my aesthetic" chaeon
aint got shit on sigvald
By far the hardest fucking total war I've played. AI aint no joke.
>>338993695
>my horns are too big
OUT
>>338993595
You know, I get the feeling 99% of all the people who disregards Sigvald because he looks flamboyant (and he is) does it for the wrong reasons.
Yes, he looks fucking beautiful for a chaos lord, but have you actually heard him in-game or read the small character building parts in the item questlines?
He's a fucking psychopath and his voice is booming with authority. He never stops fucking shouting, and his pre-battle speeches in the quests are great.
I had a right laugh in the story of his armour questline where he "stops admiring his own manicure to listen to this sorcerer and his story about an amazing piece of golden armour that is the perfection of beauty"
>>338994285
this guy gets it
what one boys?
>>338989242
I thought units locked in combat animations could still take damage.
Agents once again ruin campaign for me. Holy shit is annoying that the AI can just spam those agents and have high success rate while I have trouble assassinating low level agents with a high level one.
>>338995118
I know. I tried to assassinate an agent in my land for 15 turns each one a failure. You'd think with 30% I'd succeed at least once.
>>338995118
Its just meme luck pal. How can an agent even ruin a campaign what the hell kek. I think you are giving them too much importance.
>>338995118
agreed
>>338995419
Agents can ruin half your armies on really good rolls if high enough level
>>338983865
>it's a gamble to buy it
>you can end up throwing $60 out the window
>when Steam Refunds exist
>when the Chaos bonus lasts for the first week so you can wait for reviews and shit
>>338995741
>steam refunds that lock after 2 hours
You can't even get a good feel of the game in 2 hours.
Why does the performance get worse the lower my settings?
>>338995806
Just gonna ignore my second point there?
>>338995912
It was a fair point so i didn't try to counter it. I agree with what you're saying though.
>>338990636
>all them crossbows
>didn't just snipe their leader
Do you even anti-Vamps?
Vamp corruption is a pain in the ass to pass through...........
anyone playing this with an AMD CPU please report with performance/settings
So I have a question, Can the orks fight the vampires? I haven't seen any mention of ork players smashing some sweet vampire pussy?
I heard mention that some factions can only conquer some regions, does that also mean you can't go to war with some races?
>>338996439
They have a deal with AMD so it runs better on their cards, and screwed over Nvidia users
>>338996664
re-read my post
>>338996450
We had one guy yesterday posting screenshots about how his Waaagh was defending against an undead horde.
His images were pretty funny with Orc's giants smashing spookies left and right.
>>338996450
Yes of course, you dunce. Do you know much of anything about Warhams? Everything can war with everyone, but their stupid "lore friendly" (cough cough) regional occupancy mechanics mean you can only occupy certain races' settlements as any particular race.
>>338996439
>AMD CPU
>CPU
Kek.
>>338981247
Do you not know any tactics? The whole point of superior units is making formations that won't break and exploiting that instead of matching units 1 to 1. Enemy warbands vs hastatii. Hastatii charge and tie up their line, then you flank with calvalry or archers.
>>338996874
Look, Pappa's been busy trying to defend our western moutians from shitty dwarfs to worry about vampires. I just got the wrong impression I suppose, but thanks for clarifying.
>>338977414
>Playing Emps
>Chaos triggers
>Suddenly lone Chaos heroes start running around my territory, trying to fuck with my armies
>Generals refuse to engage them, have to garrison them to avoid assassination attempts
What heresy is this? Do I need Witchhunters to get these fucking Chaos sorcerers off my lawn? Can you just not engage heroes when they aren't part of an army?
>>338996426
what happens to factions that try to pass through it?
>>338996664
>having an AMD CPU
top kek m8
see:
>>338989623
>>338981247
I took on 4 stacks of mongol calvalry with 4 spearmen units and killed three thousand before I lost the small town. If you can't win while outnumbered your not doing strategy right.
>>338997082
Yep. Been that way in all TW games. When heroes are on their own, they can only be countered by other heroes.
>>338990852
>average fembot thread on /r9k/
>>338997082
They are agents, you need to assassinate them.
I seriously win half my battles by making Franz + Deathclaw charge the enemy lord and kill them.
It's my go-to strategy against vamps especially.
>>338997186
>>338996972
I have the last good line of CPUs AMD released - the Phenom IIs. I have a 955 OCed to 4.0GHz.
Played everything I ever asked of it but I notice its age. Just waiting on Zen to see if I go with AMD or Intel.
>>338997262
Does that include army leaders or just the hero units?
Do you guys always manually play every single battle in a TW campaign?
I usually just play the first battles then auto-resolve everything past 30 turns. Is this normal?
>>338997146
They take bad attrition.
>>338997412
How do I assassinate them?
>>338997540
I only auto-resolve if the odds are in my favor (they usually are)
>>338997540
no, the battles are the whole point of the series. Just play paradox games if you don't want to play battles.
lmao ragnaork just dropped on my first battle
>perfidious Albion
I'm not even surprised
>>338997540
Auto-resolve makes the game too easy. You should only be doing it on 1-3 unit stacks. Any higher and you should play the battle so that you actually take some casualties
>>338997712
It's not that I don't want to, it's that they get really repetitive when every fight is me with 2:1 odds against the AI.
>>338997540
If it's even matched or out of my favor to a reasonable degree, I fight. If it's a tiny army I could crush instantly or I'm stupidly outnumbered I auto-resolve.
>>338997540
I only auto resolve if the odds are very heavily against or for my favor.
Other times I just manually play it because auto resolve is retarded when it comes to heroes and monsters.
new to these games
the city building seems like there is an actual optimal path / build in order to get the buildings you need
do you guys plan everything out or do you just wing it and go for what you can, when you can?
Will I like this game if I know nothing about Warhammer but liked Attila?
>>338997897
Depends what you're playing.
>>338997417
If this was the tabletop game. It would be absolutely retarded not to do that, anon. That's the only way to beat those fuckers.
But this is Total War, so I dunno if your tactic is cheap and gay, or actually 150 IQ tier.
>>338997467
Just heroes.
>>338997540
not very often. even when my side is heavily favored its still not a good idea to auto-resolve. the auto resolve ends up fucking up my monsters and lords.
>>338997897
I've been winging it, doing ok
>>338997962
Each faction has a completely different play style with their own sets of win conditions. The Empire will probably feel most familiar to you, but it definitely feels like more of a spin off than a traditional TW game.
>>338997540
TW autoresolve notoriously targets small unit sizes (and there are many in this game).
You can end up with some fucked up elite units if you aren't careful, even in a 'routine' autoresolve.
>>338997962
do you like fantasy?
how would you fancy replacing the Attila factions with orks, humans and vampires + mythological units (including air units)?
if you think it'd be neat, it's worth it.
>>338998164
Also the free Bretonnia DLC will come out soon. That's gonna play like Attila's humans too, I assume.
DAILY REMINDER TO STOP LETTING THE AI ASS FUCK YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE SCARED TO GO NEGATIVE
THE AI IS RICH
WHICH MEANS IT HAS HUGE GOLD
SACK AND RAID
RAID AND SACK
BUILD A GODDAMN SECOND ARMY YOU COWARD
>>338997672
Heros you can recruit will be able to assassinate them. It's not always guaranteed, and can even end up getting your hero killed (taken out of play for several turns).
I'm new to TW, can someone show me how to form my armies up on the battlefield?
>>338997840
You take more casualties with auto-resolve than with manual though.
>>338998298
fucking this.
pussies, learn to raid, loot/occupy whatever. git gud.
>>338977414
Pretty good, emperor here.
Chaos has come to the world..
I am everyones friend
Dwarfs sending me kegs and begging to be my vassal, I accept cause them short bastards are bad ass..
Dem Kisv niggas be wanting an alliance to help stem the chaos flow
YOU AINT GOTTA SAY NOTHING ELSE NIGGA!
Vampires on a leash afraid to step out the front door and not acting a fool cause I got a witch hunter assassinating every wraith that pops out of their castle..
Greenskins keeping the fuck south, walled off by a solid block of angry dwarves so I can focus on kicking chaos ass.
I control all the human settlements but britannia
They are my staunch allies against chaos..
I am sigmar reborn.
>>338998298
FUCK YEAH! FUCK YEEAAAHHH!how do I stop cavalry archers from butt-fucking me?
>>338998298
>raiding as Vamps
>making people mad, raising funds and zombies, spreading corruption, sipping wine
Thanks, anon. You changed my life.
So uh what is with the Zombie and Skeleton animation.
>>338998875
The necromancer controls them like marionettes.
>>338998875
they're zombies
and skeltons
whatchu want from em
>>338998664
You're gonna have to go fucks with the Greenskins eventually for the Ghal Maraz quest, and you will run into Azhag with a full stack after you've been attritioned by their desert and he will
FUCK
YOUR
SHIT
>>338998442
Hold r-click and drag.
Have a formation you want to move around? Hold alt and drag. Hold alt and ctrl to rotate formations.
>>338998442
polearms in the front
polearms on the flanks
polearms in reserve
swords in reserve
crossbows and guns in front (never ever ever behind infantry; Once enemy forces close your front, you can send them to flank the enemy, just make sure you send reserves of spears with them to protect from cav charges)
archers in front or behind infantry
skirmisher cavalry at your discretion, but don't be an idiot and charge them out alone, enemy skirmishers will tear them apart
light cavalry for cinching engagements in flanking charges, mainly running down routing enemies; don't send them at spears ever
heavy cavalry for the above, but you can send them straight into infantry if they don't have spears and are safer to use on spears in general
>>338998442
I think its better if you use your brain anon. Its fun to come up with formations.
But the most basic rule in a regular total war is
>get the high ground
t. Anakin vs Obi Wan
>archers on the front
>charge with melee once the enemy is close
t. The Hobbit war of the five kings
>use cavalry to flank rape everything
t. Game of Thrones season 4 or some shit when Stannis charged with cavalry and raped everything
That's the holy trinity of strategy.
This game has flying units though so the holy trinity isn't perfect.
>>338998730
Shoot them
Get your own
Try to avoid wasting a unit by chasing them thats what the AI wants
Siege weapons before they arrive
Magic
Light mage has a spell that slows enemies down
Flying units have varied success
>>338999069
also, rule of thumb is you want your archers, crossbowmen, and handgunnners in front of polearms for as long as possible while they're engaged
>>338999089
>The Hobbit war of the five kings
Wait people actually went and saw that load of utter crap?
>>338998730
haven't played tww, but stationary archers/gunners do the trick in the rest
also grapeshot and your own skirmisher cav
>>338999089
>>338999069
>archers/guns in front
why? In 10 years of Total War I've always put archers behind infantry at the start, so that when the enemy charges at me they archers can keep going and be protected
>>338998875
Shills are trying to play it off as intentional, but it looks pretty bad and I'd guess it needs fixing. They only animate at like half the frames. And the whole game really has a problem with that to be honest, worse than any previous Total War.
>trying to kill dorfs and 1 last tribe as chaos
>2 doomstacks with a fucking greater demon pop up
>panic and raise a third army
>end up going way over my income just so that i can beat them
>now the fucking bird dissapeared somewhere and ive gotta disband my chosens for warriors cause i cant fucking afford them
>>338999382
Many reasons
1) you're doing friendly fire
2) you're sacrificing range that could be used to shoot the enemy for a few extra seconds
3) if you set them to skirmish mode you don't need to worry about them getting attacked in melee (mostly)
You can put your archers behind the line to hit troops ahead of the line, usually other archers, but it's smarter to do that after the initial engagement of your main line of infantry.
>>338999382
because they'll get off more shots. the enemy will be in range sooner. you keep your infantry right behind your archers and have them charge through your archers to meet the oncoming infantry. your archers never move, so they never have to stop firing, and this way your infantry can also get a charge bonus if they're something that's good for.
as for why you would put guns in front, because they need fuckin line of sight and do friendly fire in previous ones. i dont have warhammer so i dont know how they work in this one.
>>338999461
but that's wrong, retard. >>338998926
>Turn 50
>Still no heroes/agents
What am I doing wrong, why can't I recruit any?
>>338999732
Have you built the necessary buildings?
>>338998875
They are a reference to something, it escapes me at the moment what it was, but basically they are hiveminded by the necromancer and move unisoundly or something.
Don't listen to anyone that says otherwise, pure shitposting.
>>338999461
This
>>338977414
>annihilating Vamps by ganking their Lords with Karl on Deathwing
Glorious
>>338999835
this
>>338999841
>>338999461
kys, shitposting samefag
>>338998987
Azhags pretty boyfriend sigvald has shown up.
He went back north with the kind of butthurt he doesn't like...
>>338999835
It was supposed to be inspired by the stop motion skeletons from older Sinbad films and The Evil Dead army of darkness.
>playing chaos
>the fucking doomstacks of assrape spawn with a lvl 30 demon on top of me
well rip in piss this campaign
>>338995832
This
Start off medium, laggy as fuck can hardly navigate.
Get pissed switch to High just to see and game runs smooth as butter
>>339000924
Yeah, inspired by Harryhausen. Neat idea, bad in execution though.
>>339001256
No fucking way. Really?
People say it's better optimised than Atilla but it runs like shit for me on lower settings than Atilla. I'll try turning the graphics up when I get home.
how should i start expanding as vc?
should i attack and raze dorfs to fuck with them or to conquering human lands asap
>>339002007
if you go after the humans while they're still squabbling over who gets to be Emperor, you can weaken them for when Chaos rolls up
>>339002007
leave dwarves and orcs alone. only attack if they attack you first. even then, you'll never be able to occupy their cities, only loot/raze.
focus on taking down the human factions. VC have room to expand into a plains area that is surrounded by mountain ranges. so expand a little bit north (probably shouldn't) and focus on expanding west.
Get wrecked, Archaon.
>>338983196
>wtf is Denuvo
you are new.
It's great. Only problems I've seen so far are dwarves getting IMPOSSIBLE super powerful doom stacks very early in the game and I've had some minor glitches.
Particularly, a couple instances of units suddenly becoming unable to attack anything in battle, and some unit models becoming temporarily invisible.
>>339002220
wtf is going on there
>>339002174
i know, just thinking cause when cooping with a friend both as dorfs, its not even turn 40 and the vamps are coming knocking to the mountainside with 20 stack armies
going for humans then
>>339002461
Dorfs using cannons to knock Archaon off his horse.
>>339002353
Other issue is enemy heroes get unfair acceleration. About 3/4 of my heroes just get instantly assassinated.
>>339002649
if you're both going dorfs just sack/raze the shit out of drankenhof. gg you've fucked VC for the rest of the game (probably).
>>339002797
cannons can knock heroes/lords off their mounts?
what is this black magic.
>>339002963
can confirm, vamps roll the fuck over after losing Drakenhof
How's playing the game with that free conquest mod that CA made?
And how does co-op work exactly with faction selection?
Thinking about picking this up on payday tomorrow so these are some deal breakers.
>>339002963
i tried telling him more than once to raze the vamp settlements which he didnt start doing till the corruption started to spread to the nearest settlements, i would have helped but busy dealing with grimgors double 20 stack bullshit
>>339003039
>>339003039
you really gotta strike at their heart or they get completely out of control mid game.
>>339002461
He lost his army the previous battle, and I chased him down for this fight.
Also, I fail at WebM.
>>339003134
i like it without the mod, desu. it makes the map balanced.
>>339003157
>>339003172
>>339003182
lmao. what a fucking hero.
>>339003172
In my Empire game they only got as far as Kislev and never really did any thing else of note before I wiped them out
I think they may have gotten fucked by Chaos but I wasn't really paying attention
>>339003172
>strike the heart
>vampires
heh
>>339003347
>VC
>expanding north
well they got what they deserved.
in my game ive expanded well into empire territory and I use a couple northern human factions as a buffer between me and chaos.
>>338977414
loving playing vampires, they have some awesome looking hero units
>looks like CA actually made a decent game again
>my graphics card is a 560ti 1gb
rip
So how the fuck do you guys manage to win battles without having your army run off?
Ork player here.
>>339003303
>>339003182
Fearless.
>>339003807
deadeye dorf cannoneers
>>339003347
This, Currently on hard and the only thing saving my ass is from Archaeon as I clean up North and move my armies east to respond is the VC taking it up unlubed. Made the next 10 turns after Archy boy died a breeze as I blitzed the VC.
>>339003807
poor little Lord of the End Times
>>339003303
oh well
after im done with my orc genocide at badlands il head over to kick lamefred in the dick
>>339003807
holy shit. those cannons one shotted him.
NERF!!!
>>339003981
>lamefred
His name is Brostein.
>>339003807
well atleast he tried
>>339004068
>Mannfred
>bro
I think you've confused him with Vlad
>>339004136
they're all puppets of nagash anyway
>>339004181
>nagash
lmao memelich
Sigmar best god
>>339004181
Nagash is DEEEEEEEEEEADat this specific moment
Should I get into the tabletop game?
>>339003807
Absolutely fantastic.
>>339004363
That's what GW wants from you. Don't fall for their bait.
This is literally the table top in a virtual media.
>>339004363
Warhammer fantasy?
Its dead, m8
>>339004615
what about 40k should I get into that?
>>339004287
>shitmar
lol k
>>339004289
Nah
>>339004664
Only if you're fucking loaded out the ass or you get autismbux and have nothing better to spend your money on.
>>339004739
definitely the latter
>>339004778
If you're fine with spending a lot of money then go for it. I used to collect when I was a teenager. It was fun. I enjoyed painting the most. God I miss the smell of those paints and dat super glue.
>>339004664
Not unless you really like the lore and really want to kitbash and lovingly paint them.
Its horribly imbalanced and its fairly mediocre as far as wargames go.
>>339004739
To be fair you can play it quite cheaply with tabletop simulator
>>339004669
>He follows a sack of bones that only managed to bring other bones back to life
What next you'll tell me that theres giant rat men living underground
>>338978904
it sounds bizarre but I've heard of this happening before a few times. My friend magically got dirt 3 in his account (not the recent re-release, the original gfwl one - it didn't work because even though it was in steam he didn't have a gfwl key).
>>338979005
>€1500 pc
>won't buy €50 game
kek.
Denuvo will be cracked, you'll just have to wait 6 months. I'm waiting for it to be cracked for DOOM, I imagine I'll be able to play it in early 2017.
>>339004917
>To be fair you can play it quite cheaply with tabletop simulator
>simulator
>taking out all the fun
>>339004931
>wipes out millions of people
>has an undead army
>people years later still being controlled by him like puppets
>has found the source of immortality
sounds pretty based and alpha to me, t b h
>>339004931
>What next you'll tell me that theres giant rat men living underground
Well obviously. How else are my people going missing in the middle of the night, being dragged away from their homes to the underworld...
I literally just asked /tg/ what a Ghoul is. They told me in shitty settings like World of Darkness they are shit tier vampires, but in real fantasy settings they are necrofag grave diggers that eat everything.
So now I come to this memeboard to ask. Are Warhammer ghouls vampires or something else? Elaborate and please respond please. My next stop is /a/
>>339005063
i dont think warhammer ghouls are vampires.
>>339005063
they're non-undead cannibal human offshoots
>>339005056
I actually play killteam on it and find it quite fun.
>>339005063
Warhammer fantasy ghouls are just degenerate cannibals that cant really be counted as human anymore.
World of darkness ghouls are basically shitty vampires yeah
>>339005193
>>339005131
Looks like Warhammer is a good setting then. How are they formed in Warhammer? Do Skeletons and other vampire beasts attack them?
Gonna scout /a/ meanwhile, gotta find the Tokyo Ghoul fags.
I'm tempted to get this but I have some questions.
I've played traditional tabletop Warhammer and I played some really old DOS games before, so I'm mostly familiar with the basic rules. How much do these rules transition over to Total War: Warhammer? Will I know what's going on or have to learn a new system?
Second is does the game have the capacity for custom campaigns? Because I bet people could create some amazing content for it.
Last is how similar is this game to say, Shadow of the Horned Rat? Hopefully some of you are old enough to have tried it. I'm hoping this game is kind of like SotHR with better graphics and controls.
>>338977414
Okay, so I've tried this game but I honestly can't seem to git gud. I can play easy, because that's honestly just mash your army into theirs, but I can't seem to understand the general tactics.
How does one Git Gud at Total War?
>>339005063
IN warhammer fantasy, a ghoul is a cannibal that has eaten the dead so long that it has slowly turned undead. The transition to undeath is subtle at first, and in the end you get crypt ghouls and horrors that are big, have extra bones and body parts, and spread disease like crazy. They are semi-intelligent in that they can speak, but they have an insatiable hunger for man flesh, living or dead...they prefer dead, but much like a chef who enjoys a meal, he also enjoys the prep of such meal (aka killing the living and eating them)
>>339005412
they hang out with vampires and their minions
I think they just breed normally but get all fucked up from cannibalism+inbreeding
>>339005438
>
It's more total war than warhammer. From what I see
> no custom unit sizes (no phoenix guard road bumper units)
>no unit customization for elites (no magical items, scrolls etc for your elite units)
>no army painter
>more campaign management ala total war
>>339005193
>they're non-undead cannibal human offshoots
wait, what? they're undead, aren't they?
>>339005412
from what I understand, all undead are raised/controlled by necromancers and/or vampires.
>>339005438
first total war game? if you like warhammer you'll be good but if it's your first tw game you'll probably find it hard for a while.
>>339005446
what faction are you playing as?
you gotta learn 2 war m8
>>339005521
ah, someone explained it.
>>339005521
Wow that's pretty cool. I like Warhammer definition the best, thanks /v/ and thanks everyone that replied.
>>339005723
they're not
>>339005703
>no army painter
aw man, that's fucked up
here's hoping for playable minor factions DLC/mod, I wanna play as Ostland or something
>>339005521
>>339005770
The only thing correct about this post is the fact that theyre cannibals.
Ghouls are alive and crypt horrors cannot occur naturally, theyre only ever made by strigoi feeding ghouls their blood(and its only ever strigoi that do this because other vampires consider it degenerate as fuck)
I dont remember if ghouls strictly prefer dead flesh though.
>>339005446
Read the posts that replied to this post:
>>338998442
>>339005770
Its also how ghouls are made in DnD. In both they are basically undead that follow around armies hoping to pick off corpses to eat after the battle. Its common in warhammer to find ghouls cropping up at night after battles, and if its near a vampire settlement...you cant bet its the start of corruption and a undead army. Ghouls who bite the living (and the living survive) get ghoul rot, and slowly become ghouls themselves.
>Enemy stack can just retreat over my army
ok
>>339005703
If by elites you mean heros you do get them items though.
>>339005830
there will be a shit ton of mods m8, don't worry.
>>339006018
omfg....
and
>dat mad af mouse cursor
>>339006018
I found that little mouse rage thing way funnier than I should've
>>339006061
I just realized how many fucking cool unique state units there are gonna be in mods. My only experience with warhammer fantasy is the Medieval 2 mod, but that shit had some awesome unique elite units.
>>338992143
>how long till i can field graveguards and shit instead of standard shit skellies
>not fielding an entire stack oz nothing but zombies and spamming spells at them so they keep getting back up
do you even vampire counts?
>>339006150
>>339006160
ayy lmao
>>339006168
good tiems ahead m80
>>339006180
pretty much. my armies are mostly skellies backed up by big monsters and bats.
>>339006018
send this webm to CA
they will look into it I bet
>>339006316
they need to fix how spells work on large/ultra unit sizes too.
ffs.
>>339006018
>>339006316
I think that's intentional? Because you don't control where you retreat. It's to give you at least a chance to escape
>>339006407
NO
NO
thats NOT how total war works.
>>339006061
still can't change the map :/ empire killed overhaul mods.
Also a bunch of shit is still hardcoded such as the ai and ui
>>339006407
Now that I think about it I had used March to move my bigger stack over there. Might be that they can't block them after marching. But I have in the past used march to move units into assist range for other stacks and then used them to fight.
>>339006407
I don't think any TW game has let you retreat through enemy armies
>>339006453
>>339006503
well fuck if I know, just a guess
>>339006496
yeah that icon is forced march
seems like they could just be fat in the middle of the road and block the enemy though
>>339006458
>cant change the map
We could in older TWs, why can't we now?
>mfw I don't know jack shit about Total War OR Warhammer and started playing on easy difficulty
Am I supposed to be pulling off some badass tactical manuevers during battles or am i doing it right if i watch the battle unfold and occasionally tell some units to do this or that
>>339006886
simple answer, AI is coded around the maps
>>339006983
The badass tactical maneuvers start being more important on higher difficulties
>>339006886
cause the new engine is waaay harder to use, and making maps is now a massive pain. Some guy managed to put korea in shpgun but that was hard.
For med 2, its very easy to mod as it has suck a simple engine, and practically everything can be changed
Invent a unique mechanic for one of the upcoming races!
I will start because fuck you
>Skaven gets introduced
>unique system that applies to all factions: Squalor
>Skaven begin the campaign underground having to unite all the clans
>Skaven can choose to go to the surface any time they want, but once they go to the surface the underground map is inaccessible
>Skaven have missions that increase squalor on the surface
>The Skaven can only go to the surface in locations where squalor is at a certain level
And they would have to do somethin warpstone but I dunno.
What do you think /v/ did I do good?
>>338987476
>Total War: India
>>339006026
No, I mean units like Phoenix Guard, Executioners , fuck i have no idea what the elite / rare units for the current factions actuall are.
>>338985848
Man, this game is so worth the 60 dollars.
I just want to see how good this game would look when CA releases their 12 directx patch.
>>339006983
you should be trying to pull off maneuvers, regardless of difficulty. misuse of your units can lead to disaster.
>>339007172
>skaven
>you can tunnel into peoples cities
>>339007172
I was actually thinking about this topic earlier, mainly about lizardmen.
In lore the main warriors, the saurus, are spawned out of pits at times that only the old ones know, fully grown and ready for battle.
Obviously you could repersent this in game by just disallowing actually recruiting units, and instead just using the units that the "old ones" give you, but that seems like it would end up being extremely unbalanced against the lizardmen.
Any one else have ideas on how that could be repersented in a more balanced way?
>>339006983
Just flank your enemy and try to gain high ground if possible. That's about it
Daily reminder there is at least one anon here (me) who wants Total War: Warhammer to reach Nippon.
>>339007668
how many hours you got f am? i'm 20 in.
>>339007810
but what factions would you encounter...
I want the map to expand to Araby.
>>339001450
Lower settings use more cpu.
>>339007989
And higher settings use more VRam...it all makes sense now.
>>339007743
But the Old Ones could be you, the player. Or would that reduce the magical awe of the faction?
>>339007873
Fuck how I want Araby so bad man...
Can't wait to unleash Djinns and carpet riding regiments into the battlefield
I can wait for the next expansion when we get Tomb Kangz and much of the southern kings.
I almost can't contain the hype.
>>339007743
No recruitment time, more expensive upkeep maybe
Is it just me or is the initial difficulty a complete lie? Chaos feels like the easiest but Empire feels like the hardest.
Debating picking this up. Are we going to get more factions via DLC or are we stuck waiting for more full priced sequels?
>>339008493
this tbqh
i wanna play da t00m ka-hangz
>>338988410
zombie draogon OP
that thing is fucking awesome
against chaos you need the cav to chase the skirmishers though
>>339008704
>more full priced sequels?
fuck that shit. they better release some new factions.
>>339008680
Empire mellows big time as soon as you take it the Secessionists
>>339008704
Other than pic related, paid expansions I'd expect.
>>339008680
From hardest to easiest
Orks > Chaos > Empire = VC > Dwarfs
>>339008847
how to beat chaos as VC?
they have monsters and ranged, kinda fucks VC over a bit.
>>339008850
I've heard they're planning on 2 or 3 sequels for this series, which is what has me worried. I'd be all for DLC/full blown expansions, but sequels would be fucking retarded and scummy.
>>339008704
Some as DLC, some in separate games-that-also-act-as-expansions
>>339008704
CA promises that all of the factions in Warhammer are going to be playable, and said that some factions that were broken now are going to be released later as free DLC like the Bretonnians.
https://www.vg247.com/2016/04/12/total-war-warhammer-free-dlc-pc/
>>339008859
Yea but that's not exactly right at the start is it? Also is it just me or does doing the intro battle for Empire fuck your public order up? I swear it starts at -50 if you do the battle but 0 if you don't.
Im enjoying the actual challenges that are in this game than other total wars. Ai is smart and moves tactfully instead of being a tard. Playing on normal and hard difficulty is a hell of a movement between taking and losing cities. The armies actually banter at eachother if your fighting the same race
>While we fight each other, worst things wait their turn!
>JOIN US, DONT FIGHT US
>>339008990
>but sequels would be fucking retarded and scummy.
Why?
>>339009025
>CA promises that all of the factions in Warhammer are going to be playable
i don't believe them
or maybe they'll release them over 3 seperate games or "expansions".
g00dy.
>>339008950
just rush in and use flyers and cav to take down arty asap, that thing will kill infantry like it's nothing
use your abilities to kill the lord and use debuff skills to rout and pursue with cav
destroying their armies and settlements can be a bitch though
>>339009094
Why the fuck wouldn't you believe them? They already have 1/3rd of them.
>>339009176
Nah
>>339009025
>CA promises
lel
they have 3 Warhammer games planned. You aren't getting all 16 factions for the first game.
>>339009250
CA really are scumbags.
>>339008990
You can google "total war warhammer trilogy" and you will get results, mostly from eurogamer and stuff.
But if you actually check the total war forums, you would realize that was a misconception. In reality is 1 game, and 2 giant expansions that will add new regions and factions to the game.
The total faction count is going to be 16. But I think we will have more than 16 and they will flesh out minor shit into factions (if GS let them)
>>339009305
What part of that makes them scumbags?
Does Warhammer have naval battles?
>>339009025
>>339009250
there are 2 more standalone expansions that if you have the base game(s) it slots into a bigger map.
when all the games are out you'll have the entire map and all the races in game
each are playable seperately
>>339009094
>>339009250
That's exactly what I meant when I said all factions playable.
We aren't going to get all of them until the expansions start releasing.
>>339009343
new to total war?
How do I counter the VC terrorgheist and vargheist? They are like airborne calvary, do everything calvary does except better. They just slam down and everything got stun. I tried to charge with calvary, they slam and i lose momentum. When my knight got back on their horse, they got swarm by skeleton tying them down
>>339009480
No, are you?
>>339009503
You need anti large reserves and to set up range units BEHIND your main line
>>339009067
Any kind of RTS or strategy game is the perfect platform to add onto using expansions rather than making an entirely seperate game, unless we're talking a ten year+ stretch of time like with starcraft to starcraft 2.
>>339009334
God bless anon, I sure as shit hope this is the truth.
>>339009343
>What part of that makes them scumbags?
lel
for starters, see Empire and Rome 2.
>>339009503
It's spelt cavalry, calvary is the hill Christ was crucified on.
So just finished Empire campaign as Karl, what next?
>>339009530
why, because i dared to call CA out on their bullshit?
Things that I didn't find out on the forums and found out at the Saturday Q&A were:
1. Dogs of War and Regiments of renown will not make an appearance and they're definitely not on the road map for the future.
2. The aim to cover every army that has an Army Book in 8th Edition.
3. Though the first game only cover the continent of The Old World, they will by the end of it all (after the third game's release) cover the entire Warhammer World (aka The Worlde).
4. Confirmed that all standard multiplayer game types (including co-op) from previous Total War games will be included (with the exception of naval combatof course).
Also a little bit of interesting information that I was told by one of the CA guys in the SEGA zone was that the older staff have thought Warhammer would've been great for a Total War game for years. Eventually SEGA got the licence, Games Workshop happened to agree with them at CA from the start and they got the go ahead. The older guys at CA had the idea of making a Warhammer themed Total War way back when Total War was relatively new franchise. This game has been on the cards unofficially for over a decade.
Also someone translate this into English. I only have Internet Explorer here and can't use Google, I use DuckDuckGo(much better imo)
http://www.sega-mag.com/GC+2015+++Interview+de+Andy+Hall+++Total+War+Warhammer-news-7582.htm
>High level Blood Dragon takes on an Army
>500 kills because he got backed into a corner
>Empire gets freaked the fuck out and routes
DONT FUCK WITH THE COUNT OF BEASTS YOU LITTLE MORTAL FUCKS
>>339009503
pikes, lords and missile units
bog them down with pikes, they don't actually do that much damage but they cause terror and have the mobility
>>339008847
Zombie dragon doesnt have shit on the chaos dragon
>>338979676
Because Total War has always been a numbers game.
>>339009584
But they fly around faster than cavalry, how does pikeman catch them? And what if they just ram your front line then fly away? By the time my troops got up from the slam, they already got overwhelmed by the skeleton follow up
>>339009605
Both of those are great. In fact, Empire is my favorite one. Nice shitpost.
>>339009750
what do you need to recruit chaos dragon?
>>339009750
didn't know they had them
chaos is such a bitch to deal with
>>339009605
See things completely unrelated? K.
>>339009587
They aren't entirely separate though. They combine into one giant game.
>>339009691
No, because you're refusing to answer my what I asked and are instead deflecting with these stupid questions.
>>339009587
They're both separate games and expansions
Think Guild Wars or City of Villains
>>339009785
>>339009343
>>339009530
lel, that mad
>h-how dare you insult CA!
>>339009790
Its a mount just like the zombie dragon, its a better dragon on top of having a stronger rider
>>339009785
Empire was awful, I still remember how they recycled the Medieval 2 "America" campaign including its music. They made that the only expansion to a game set in the age of imperialism? No South America or East Indies gameplay?
It was insanity. Also the AI sucked.
Any outrageous bugs yet?
CA has an absolutely shit track record for initial release quality, so I was gonna wait a year or two. But now I don't hear any complains. DID THEY MEND THEIR WAYS, /v/?
>>339003807
Kek
>>339009820
>See things completely unrelated?
>completely unrelated
I urge you to revisit Rome 2.
But you won't and you'll just keep saying it's unrelated, because you're probably a CA dev.
Fuck off.
>>339009820
you must be in denial.
>>339009858
I'm just asking you to explain yourself. Quit sperging out over nothing.
>>339009886
Nothing major like Rome 2
>>339009673
wait for first expansion and think if it was worth 60€
>>339009925
>im the one sperging out
heh
>>339009886
in comparison to rome 2 it's playable on release, although the initial start time takes awhile
other than some rare crashes i haven't had any issues
>>339009913
So you're saying that Rome 2 and Empire are related to TWW being a trilogy?
Fuck off retard.
Is it me or are the warscape games more challenging than the older ones?
>>339009925
>>339009987
>>339009993
stop sperging out, brah.
>>339009779
Split ranks and forces, stagger lines, create pockets. Jesus lad this aint Rome III, you're facing rocket barrages, spell casters and giant fucking vampire bats. Adapt or die
>>339009993
So now you're trying to shift the topic of the conversation?
This conversation is about CA being scumbags, you dipshit.
>>339009992
Long start time was fixed in like the first few hours
>>339010110
He called them scumbags because TWW is going to be a trilogy. I asked what was scummy about that. Learn to follow a conversation.
>>339009886
The only complains I have is /v/ being regular /v/ hipster shit like this >>339009605>>339009913
There is nothing to complain, so /v/ resorts to stupidity and shill calling instead. It ruins the comfyness of the thread. It happens every thread.
>>339010180
It is completely related though, fucking retard.
Go take a look at Rome 2's launch and its DLC, as well as paid fixes.
>>339009779
they're slower than cav
>>339010230
None of the anons in those posts you quoted are complaining about Total War: Warhammer.
Are you retarded?
>>339010303
t. Didn't play Empire at release
>>339003807
>I AM THE HORSEMAN OF THE APOCALYPSE AND YOU SHALL NOT-
He's got some boulder-sized balls, I'll give him that.
>>339010271
No, it really isn't. You've explained nothing as to why a trilogy is a bad thing that makes them scumbags.
>>338977414
based hbt
>>339010350
At what part of my post did I say my complain was about this game?
>>339010350
I have bought every single Total War game day one. That includes Empire. It is the best one. Stop shitposting and ruining this thread you gigantic piece of shit.
>>339010402
>oh god CA, please take a big huge slimy shit in my mouth and make me pay for it 20 times, yessssssss
>>339010109
Point is how do I keep them down from disengage? I can assign troops to guard the artillery and archer, but then they send in their own zombie fodder to tie down my troops. And they can raise them mid battle. The flyers just fly around and ram whenever they like, and they can completely stop cavalry charge, so I can't do hammer and anvil.I just get hit on and I can't hit back
>>339003807
Yhis happens in table top too
>>339010485
>I have bought every single Total War game day one. That includes Empire. It is the best one.
>>339010479
You were replying to an anon who was asking about complaints of TW:W.
>>339010526
FFS KILL THE FUCKING RING LEADER. THE ARMY DIES WITHOUT THE FUCKING LEADER
>>339010485
>I have bought every single Total War game day one. That includes Empire. It is the best one. Stop shitposting and ruining this thread you gigantic piece of shit.
anon, come on. No one seriously says this with a straight face.
I can agree with it being the best one years after endless patches and fixing, because between Empire and Napoleon I also prefer Empire, but at release Empire was the biggest turd on Steam.
You're either a complete liar or your memory is shit.
>>339010495
No need to share your scat fetish with everyone, Franz.
>>339010526
remember that VC armies *literally* crumble when you flank them.
VC are like a slow wall that pushes you into a corner and crushes you to death.
>>339010684
>yfw i'm actually a scat fetishist
its' just really intimate tbqh, what can i say
Bretonnia is going to be the first DLC race for sure, you guys think i'll get to play myhigh elves?
>>339010814
whats even special about them? what are their unique units? seems like a poor mans empire desu
>>339010579
I'm now replying to you and we are not talking about my original post, nor about the guy I replied to.
Learn2socialize
>>339010608
But the ringleader is one of the flyers...
>>339010698
Expert VC player in tabletop and TWH, this is a true statement. we dont kill you, we crush you under the weight of bone and flesh
>>339010857
Bretonnia is all about Knights and beingmanipulated by Wood Elves lel.
>>339010881
>The only complains I have is /v/ being regular /v/ hipster shit like this >>339009605 (You)>>339009913 (You)
None of the posts are hipster shit. Empire and Rome 2 are pretty much shat on constantly on /v/ everytime they're brought up. Learn the definition of hipster, faggot.
>>339009715
This is a good image.
>>339011002
You are as much of a hipster as them. Maybe even more.
>>339010928
hardly, all the good VC armies are a zombie bunker for your necromancer and a shitload of black knights/graveguard with a blender lord.
Oh and the mandatory spirit host/s
>>339010669
It may not have been perfect at launch, but I honestly did not have any problems with it at the time. Yes, it got better with patches after a few months, but it was still playable and good at launch. It was nowhere near the level of broken of Rome 2's first 3 months, and even still I was able to play that one just fine as well. People blow this shit way out of proportion. Both of those games at this point are better than Warhammer too.
>>339011020
You are welcome to it. His all skeletal army survived 5 stacks before succumbing, and he held off the last stack for Blood Knight honor
>>339010992
so a better rohan?
>>339011002
^
>>339011135
>all the good VC armies are a zombie bunker for your necromancer
of course
>>339011135
>good
you mean cheesy. Aint fun to play or fight
Can we talk about the real problem here? The game has Chaos and no blood for the blood gods. Where the fuck is my blood DLC CA? I know you jews have it ready to go, pull the trigger assholes
>>339011262
Rohan is a shitty Brettonia.
>>339011556
thats more like it
>>339011537
Serious question. Does Blood for the Blood god apply to Fantasy too? Or just 40k?
I know Khorne is here so it should apply but I dunno that much about Fantasy.
>>339011537
gotta get that teen rating,
>>339011537
>blood dlc
it's always the first dlc of course :^)
>>339011656
chaos gods are pretty much the same in both universes.some say they bleed into both realities
>>339011537
I know people bitch about day one dlc, but that's one dlc I really wish they would had out on day one. It adds a lot of atmosphere to the battles. And I don't mind paying for it because I get that the only reason they do it this way is to keep the games rated T which is better for business.
>>339011884
if we have to pay for it, it should cost 10 cents at the most.
>>339010526
I just beat the Empire campaign, handgunners are great against undead.
>>339011656
Chaos units will sonetimes chant blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne.
>>339012047
Unrealistic and naive. However, them hiking the price up a dollar each time they've done it is bullshit. It started at literally $0.99 and then by Attila it was $3 or $4. I bet it'll be $5 this time, if not more to give GW a cut.
>>339011764
>>339011656
Isn't both Warhammer Fantasy and 40k are the same universe and Sigmar is one of the 2 Primarch that was never found?
