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play healer because no one else doesno one feels responsible to walk into your direction


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>play healer because no one else does
>no one feels responsible to walk into your direction when they're about to die
>no one feels responsible to stay close
>everyone just charges in and dies leaving you alone

I want to punch every motherfucker who plays this game Jesus Christ
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>>338930339
maybe use your mic to tell people how to play or get some friends who will heal for you
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>>338930339
>was hoping that they would improve zenyatta until launch
>nothing happens
his damage is fine, but his healing and defensive should get some improvements.
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>Its a Widowmaker decides to sit around fishing for headshots while overtime runs out episode
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>>338930339
>Zenyatta
>healer
Where did you see the word "healer" in the game?
He's a _support_ character.
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>>338930696

Right now all he supports is the enemy k/d
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the problem with zenyatta is that he is slow as fuck with barely any hp and needs to stay in the background, if that is not possible (which is the case in multiple maps since enemies can flank you) he dies right away.
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Zenyatta could do with a little more health and faster orbs. But hes a death machine in the right hands and I'm not sure how you'd balance that.

Hit someone with a debuff, you can kill them like nothing. If he moved faster or had more health it'd be insane.

He rewards sneaky support play and harassing people with debuffs and footballs from afar.

Just not fucking widowmakers
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>>338930794
Git gud.
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>>338930339
>every idiot instantly locks on to genji/hanzo/widowmaker and gets absolutely nothing done
>half-decent on offense, but have to choose between playing lucio/mercy or getting demolished
>we still end up getting steamrolled because the team is terrible.
I wish there was some sort of incentive to playing support. Like an XP boost or something.
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>>338930960
>mfw sniping a widowmaker with zenyatta
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>>338930339
>another anon with no friends to play a team based game comes to cry on 4chan
sucks to be you
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>Play Lucio
>Get a "request healing" from another player.
>check their location
>They're way off going solo

Yes I'm just going to drop this 4 player count bulk healing to go save your ass, eat shit.
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>>338931140

>tfw you get her with a fully charged up one
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>tfw i top healing, damage, and eliminations with zenyatta

git gud
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>>338930642

Usually it's both a widowmaker and a hanzo just camping around spawn while you're on attack
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>play healer because no one else does
>pick Zenyatta

If your pub team needs a healer and you aren't picking Lucio or at least Mercy you're a special snowflake and deserve to lose
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>>338930556
he's not a main healer, Zenyatta is a duo healer healer.
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>>338931573
doesnt change the fact that his defense doesnt exist
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>>338931734
nah he's fine desu just get a second healer and git gud
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>>338931362
>being matched with shitters
The only one who should git gud is you.
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>>338931215
word. Fuck that request.

Be a healer or a self-healing hero if you're that much of a weakling
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>>338930339
>attack
>he picks Bastion
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Your mistake was playing something you didn't want to play because the screen told you to. If you're playing with people who are bad just use your best character and you'll most likely carry your team. Do this until you start getting paired with people around your skill level.

If you're not good enough to do this then git gud
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How does one get good with Zenyatta? I always feel like his heals arent good enough and his health is a joke. He dies from 2 slaps of anything, cant defend himself and has no escapes like other fragile characters.
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>>338932658
put bastion on payload
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>>338930339
>That one Healer that doesn't pay attention to you and allies HP Bars
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>>338931452
i main hanzo, but i dont camp, because i have realised he is better playing the objective than camping
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>>338932820
>put Bastion on payload
>put Reinhardt on Bation
>put Mercy on Reinhardt

Enjoy your free win and the salt from the enemy team
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>>338932815

He's a glass cannon support that needs a shield to stay behind while he uses discord to fuck up tanks
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>>338932891
>that idiot that pushes alone and cries for healing
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>>338930339
>zenyatta
>healer

pick one
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>>338932815
your teammates need to get good
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>>338932815
Zenyatta shouldn't be main healer. A Lucio/Zen duo is pretty insane, even a Mercy/Zen combo is really good. Zen's debuffs helps more than anything IMO.
You can't git gud when trying to main heal with him. His heals just don't heal enough.
Learn to stay back and spam his orbs and snipe people while trying to avoid being noticed.
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>>338933036
>put Mercy on Reinhardt
>not on Bastion with damage boost
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>>338932815
have a good team. It's important to know who to prioritize with your orbs, and you need a good aim because Zen needs to add his not inconsiderable damage to make it worth it, but at the end of the day you need a good team to protect your ass because you have 50 less health than Mercy and Lucio and no form of escape.

If your team is good, stick near, try and stay in some form of cover and keep sending out those orbs as needed
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>>338933209
>That one Reaper that cries for pocket heals
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>>338933036

>Phara presses E on your head
>Junkrat carpet bombs the area or presses Q
>Genji presses E and drills through the shield

Just off the top of my head.
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>>338930960
I think his orbs are fine. They do a lot of damage and it's very satisfying to land one.

I just think he could use a little extra health and a buff to his healing orbs. Either make them heal faster but give them a time limit, or make them last longer after line of sight is broken.
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>>338934285
They should just revert the nerf to his orbs, and make them stay until the target is dead, or you use them on someone else.
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PSA: Symmetra's shield makes Zen able to survive a sniper bodyshot.
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>>338931081
That's not a bad idea actually. They did it in WoW a while ago. If you queued up as a healer or tank in LFG, they give you an extra loot bag at the end. No one really got pissed or jealous because it helped shorten the queue time for people that don't like those roles.
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>>338930339
So are people racist against robots in this game? Is that the lore? Is "racist" the correct term?

And why are support players so based?
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>>338931081
There is.
You get EXP bonus if you win.
And a team with a non-retarded composition is more likely to win.
But none of this matters, because you can't force people to play someone they don't want to play. If there's a player on the team who plays a support hero occasionally, they will likely do so, if they see that they can't play their main and win in this team.
On the other hand, if you make bonuses for playing support too strong, you'll just get teams full of support players, who just farm exp/crates.
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Is it possible to actually aim Hanzo arrows? Every Hanzo I see just spams them down hallways/into crowds, abuses hotboxes, and gets POTG
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>joins random game
>team is just tanks
>"Lets go around and surprise them"
>you spawn as healer
>"YOO IM DYIN HERE"
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>>338932815
Usually when I use him I stay near cover so if I have to face an enemy, I can discord them, pop behind it, charge up shots, then while my orb is still telling me where they are, I pop out and hit them in the head with the charged shots. It isn't hard, but you have to be quick enough to hit them before the orb comes back to you since they aren't in your line of sight.
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>>338935174
>die third time as Lucio on king of the hill map to a scatter arrow just randomly fired into the room
>bitch in chat about it and how it needs to be nerfed
>Hanzo: It doesn't, why don't you just stop standing still?
>ask him if he realizes I can see in the kill cam he's just spraying it and normal arrows everywhere randomly
>silence

Hanzos are undeservingly smug scumbags.
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>>338935079
>Are people racist against robots
Yeah, there was a big war between humans and robots that the old Overwatch ended up winning for the humans. Now years later there's a big controversy over Omnic rights and self-government.
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>>338930339
>play healer because no one does
>fly back and forth and keep 4 guys topped all the time
>even boost their damage
>they still can't kill anyone in the enemy team and don't even have a healer
>eventually someone ults us from the side
Fuck this gay earth. I won't slut around for incompetent teams anymore.
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>>338930339

>Tank main
>Nobody wants to get on the fucking payload when I go in

Payload is the shitter check of this game

>What do you mean I have to get near the objective to win
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>usually wait when a game starts to see what roles, if any, need to be filled
>defense map begins, need a tank, play a tank
>entire team gets steamrolled by other teams comp and they capture the first point in like a minute
>one guy starts furiously typing about how we have no defenses and no one is playing Bastion or a Builder and quits
>he was playing Zenyatta
>he had been playing Zenyatta the last three games
>mfw

Why are pubs like this? Why didn't he just switch?
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Fuck now I want to get Overwatch. It's only $40 right? My Zenyatta has gotten pretty good during the beta.
Why couldn't they have buffed him?
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>>338935779
>he was playing Zenyatta
>Why didn't he just switch?

Because you don't switch away from a support since they're even more important than defense?
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>>338935079
>Robots try and go all "KILL ALL HUMANS"
>Overwatch kicks their ass
>Libshits in the world love the robo dick and start pushing for equality
>People like Junkrat are so mad about it they nuke an entire country back to the stone age

Pretty much.
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>everyone ignores the tracer/reaper behind enemy lines killing you
fuck this shit
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>>338930339

My roadhog always knows where a healer is and thanks them often. Also he has a shark head.
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>>338935648
I won a game last night parking my ass on the payload as Reinhardt

I actually solo pushed it by myself because their entire enemy team was snipers who decided they rather go for kills then stop me from winning. It didn't even go to overtime, I just won it myself.

Holy fuck was the enemy Lucio mad in allchat after that.
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>>338935952
He was OP during the closed beta and had to be nerfed down hard.

It'll be a long while before they buff him again.
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>Start up game on Hollywood, Defense
>Playing as Mercy healing a Mccree, Genji, Junkrat, Widowmaker
>Guy joins as Bastion
>While we're trying to stop the payload from getting to B he's sitting at our spawn on the elevator type thing going up and down in turret mode, where he couldn't see anybody even if he tried

Like holy shit, I could understand if this guy was level 2 or whatever, or it was his second game, but you were level thirty man. You know how this game works, probably better than I do, set up a bit farther away and I can heal/damage buff you.
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>>338935174
Two things make me furious in this game. The auto turret of Torb and fucking Hanzo killcams where he just spaming arrows in the general direction of our team and one hit kills me.
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>>338936286

He still feels pretty good, though.

A charged shot fucking rips up Reinhardt's shields, and as long as you're attached to you tank buddy and throwing out discord orbs, they shouldn't be around long enough to kill you.
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>>338936404
What if I'm a Hanzo that aims where the enemy is gonna be?
Spamming choke points is a given though.
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>>338930339
REEEEEE IF YOU CANT GET A SINGLE KILL IN ONE LIFE AS OP WIDOW THEN SWITCH CHARACTERS. PRACTICE IN AI GAMES OR SOMETHING
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>WHAT THE FUCK WHY DIDNT YOU SWITCH TO HEALER
>i was playing mcree and killing their entire team alot
>YEAH THAT WOULD BE GOOD IF THIS WERE TEAM DEATHMATCH
>killing them prevents them from being on the objective

he literally couldnt respond. how do people use that "this isnt tdm" shit as an argument?
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>>338936473
Yeah, can you imagine how much stronger he used to be if he's already ripping people apart now?
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>>338930339
>used to main healer/support for years
>got into it literally because everyone else in WoW was incompetent at the time (and most still are, honestly)
>become somewhat famous on the server for being one of the best healers around and shit, would get random invites for both raids and arena from people i never met before
>same thing happened in other games, such as MOBAs, TF2, Borderlands coop, etc
>feelsgood.png


>get into some identity crisis shit some years ago
>quit playing healer/support and decide that i'll rarely if ever touch it again
>why? probably because it didn't feel rewarding anymore, someone else should do it, i wanna do something else, whatever
>even avoided playing it when more or less forced to, causing teams to get fucked up compositions because of it, because i would just refuse

>years later, pretty much around now
>play OW
>give supports a chance again
>i fucking love them all
Am I back...?
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>>338936576

It generally applies to people who go off to have their own fights with other people. Killing people prevents them from getting to the objective, but if you wind up tailing someone for longer than, like, 10 seconds, that's enough time for more of their team to get back to the objective, while you're out in the middle of nowhere, having dealt with one guy.
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>>338936576
Basically if you have gold damage or gold objective kills or on fire, tell the person yelling at you to kill themselves. You being DPS is not why the team is losing.
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>>338936701
Kill yourself
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>>338936845
no u
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>>338936701
You sound like a faggot who thinks he needs recognition for doing their job.

The only difference between playing a healer and anyone else is healers are usually boring as fuck, which is why barely anyone ever play healers.
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>>338937046
Unless you play Zenyatta that is and fuck shit up.
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>>338937046
Playing a healer/support WELL is objectively a more advanced role in 99% of all games, than playing any damage dealer.
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>>338936701
yes
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>>338937046
This. Most games just make it impossible for a healer to really defend themselves. I like Lucio since he's obnoxious to kill, heals pretty well, and his gun is alright. Plus it's weird that speed boost actually makes objectives move faster.
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>>338937321
>Plus it's weird that speed boost actually makes objectives move faster.
You sure you're not mixing up the speed increase that multiple people on the objective causes?
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>>338936480
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Another Overwatch thread? Alright I'm cool with that [-]
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>>338937046
Anyone willing to do what no one else will do deserves some recognition
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>>338930339

Zenyatta barely counts as a healer and everyone knows it is why. You can only heal 1 person at a time and it's a heal almost as weak as Lucio's, but at least Lucio can heal everyone at once without ulting.

When people see someone pick Zenyatta they already know their best chance at survival is to get health packs in sidestreets and buildings, not run to their "healer"
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>>338937321
>Most games just make it impossible for a healer to really defend themselves.
In most games I can think of, the healer can keep itself alive more than well enough on their own. The real issue is when they get focused down by the entire enemy team at once, but then anyone would die really.

Healers generally have at least one of:
>ability to heal self up to full again, sometimes self healing even being more effective than healing a friend
>abillity to use other protective buffs on self
>come with some form of extra defense stats, like extra hp, tougher body armor like in Killing Floor, etc
>self regenerative health
etc

The most fun (even if sometimes not the most effective) healers are those who are made to work well as offensive healers; combat medics.
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Anyone with half a brain in EU servers want to party up?

Im happy to play healer when needed, im a shit tank but ill do that too.
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>>338930339
>I want to punch every motherfucker who plays this game Jesus Christ
Exactly why I didn't buy it. It's not fun if your team is retarded, which is 90% of games. I don't want to babysit, I want to have fun.
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>there are people who underestimate Mercy's pistol
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>>338937971
Isn't it about the same as Dva pistol?
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>>338937998
>>there are people who underestimate D-va's pistol
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>>338935174

>tfw when you get the simple geometry achievement by sheer luck with a blindly fired scatter arrow into a building.
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how much is the damage boost for mercy?
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>>338930339
i felt the same and now i dont even feel like playing the game anymore on 3rd day of release.
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>>338937998
Different anon, 20 a hit I think. It's alright but nothing to really say wew about.
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>>338938154
Freckles are so fucking ugly. It's a serious case of destroyed skin, not something that people should find attractive. God damn.
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>>338935412
Nah you just sound like a little bitch Anon.
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Reaper and Zenyatta were my favorites during the beta. Should I get the game?
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>>338933036
That's the worst fucking strategy ever
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>>338935779
You're right anon

Maybe he should've played tank too on top of defense and healing so you and the other four shitters on your team could've kept padding your Hanzo K/Ds
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>>338938406

It's just melanin, just like having a tan, just unevenly distributed I used to think like you, and I passed up on some cute girls because they had freckles.. now I think they're cute as fuck.

Is it an imperfection? Yes, but mild imperfections are what make someone truly stand out and look beautiful.
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>>338938447
Did you like playing the beta?
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>>338937971
>>338938154

Nobody underestimates it, it's just every other weapon in the game is better if your target isn't afk.

Well ok, Symettra's alt fire is worse. I guess you can have that one.
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>>338931081
Too bad I'm not on your team anon. I only play mercy. 7 out of my 8 hours played is just all mercy. I'm a support fiend and I fuckin hate support in every other time of arena game I've ever played. I just like her kit, jumping around like a pinball to everyone on my team.
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>>338931215
Just say Converge On Me and don't be a cunt.
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>>338938701
I'm in the middle. It was pretty fun, but it had downsides too. Can't say if I want it for sure.
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>>338936020
>>338935531

What I don't get is that these omnic robots are knowingly human creations, and yet many of the omnics are deeply spiritual, devouting themselves to zen buddhism.

If you KNOW for absolute certainty that you are not created by a God, but mortal, imperfect men... how do you become religious?
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>>338938631
>Yes, but mild imperfections are what make someone truly stand out and look beautiful.

Spoken like a true beta who had to settle for bottom of the barrel. I bet you buy into the whole fat rolls = curves meme too.
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>not playing with at least 3 friends in a TS/Mumble
wew lad
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Question: If I debuff Reinhardt while his shield is down, will the debuff apply to damage soaked by his shield when he puts it back up?
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I found zenyatta works well with any of the other supports bar mercy, because she can usually deal with an entire team of healing by herself. Lucio doesn't really need help, but it can work well with the right team since the orb and his aura stack

symmetra/zenyatta is my favorite, especially if you have a team with a lot of shields/roamers since it supports them well. I do think zenyatta needs some kind of buff since his orbs aren't nearly as useful with the LoS change but he's still my favorite support
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>>338931362
>I play a character that has good balance in every field!
>le turrets xD
>my job is hard!

How about play a support that you have to work for an offense score
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>>338937998
I think D.Va's is marginally better at everything.
So yeah, basically the same.
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>>338937971

>tfw when killing a Roadhog who chained me with it.

Should've healed yourself first before messing with the best girl.
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>>338935079
The lore in this game doesn't really make any god damned sense. It's kind of like I,Robot and Watchmen if they were written by retarded people.
The mainstream success is based on the Pixar level animation quality in the advertised media and the design by committee appeal to everyone character designs and gameplay choices.
Blizzard has been very smart about that and it kind of feels like they sold the soul of the game to avoid HoTs level oblivion. It's just a shame we got a story written for 12 year olds.
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>>338938864

Nope. That's not a genetic imperfection that's an unhealthy lifestyle choice.

but I'll take a redhead with green eyes and freckles over a brunette with flawless evenly toned skin and dark eyes any day.
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Zenyatta is good
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-a4AUGiq3GE
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>>338939139
HoTs level oblivion?

HoTs is doing pretty well though. Its a niche game and not the major player in the Moba wars but its got a decent fanbase.
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>>338930339
Welcome to every team based shooter pub matches faggot.

Totally not the current year called and said to tell you to ahit being such a ounk bitch. This is the same shit that always happens in every teambased game like this in which peole just essentially play it as single player game almost as if the other players were bots and just focuses on thier own solo fun.

So buck up and quit such a shitty nerd and learn to carry teams on your own ya chav shitty cunt.
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I want Zenyatta to get more speed. Right now he's the slowest of all the supports and has no options to get around quickly.
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>>338938854
Buddhism is about self-enlightenment, not about believing in God.
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>>338939139
Nah, you're just thinking about it too much.

It's basically a threeway deathmatch between the Robots, the robot haters and team 'We can all get along'. There's more lore there, but since there's no campaign or anything I really wouldn't focus on it short of the animations and comics.
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PASS INTO THE IRIS
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>>338939329
This, and nobody is going to run Lucio for speed boosts if they see a Zenyatta.
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>>338939474
PEACE BE UPON YOU
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>>338939272
It's not even beating smite. Sure, it's probably making a ton of money, but it's not seeing anything like what DotA and League see.
If you want to compare it to those games then I think it's almost irrelevant at this point since the competitive is a joke.
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>>338936576

Yes I have this problem so much. I'll be hanzo with like 20 elims and 10 objective kills and 5000+ dmg usually gold/silver on everything and they'll be like "hurr durr we don't need a sniper we need blah blah this is why we're losing" like fuck you dude jesus. People who are not getting silver on dps are the ones who should just switch and help everyone out. That's usually how I roll if I'm only getting bronze in dps roles I'll switch to a mercy or reinhardt and help out.
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>>338931215
THIS
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>>338937971
>>338938154

They takes too much skill to use compared to every other weapon in the game, which is why it seems like they're ass.
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>>338939341

Yet it's about spiritual enlightenment. You know as an artificial construction that you were not built with a spirit or soul, just a physical body and software to run it.
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Reaper is fucking hilarious. All of his lines are so over the top.
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>>338938845
Nothings really new since beta, so up to you.

I enjoy it.
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>>338939395
Nah, in the game there can be any combination of these groups so it doesn't really make sense. I know it also doesn't make sense that there can be copies of the same character playing at once, but they could've given it more of a typical fighting game type explanation and I would've been satisfied. If nothing else you have to agree the story is completely pointless with regards to the actual game.
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>>338939609
Right...but what does that have to do with the qualty of the game?
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I live in Japan and only have a laptop. Should I get Overwatch?
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>>338939913
Oh, bro I'm on your side, as well as Blizzard. They've straight up said they made the lore alongside the game, but the game is totally non-canon because six Bastion is fucking unstoppable. So yeah, you want Overwatch lore? Comics and animations by Blizzard lolol
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>>338939932
Well I wasn't really commenting on the quality of the game. I was saying compared to the major DotA clone players that it's the little guy. It is my opinion that the game is casual garbage compared to DotA, but I've played a lot of DotA so maybe I'm biased. It's certainly on many levels far far less complex than DotA, League, or even Smite and that's why to me it isn't fun. I also think that's at least partially the reason it couldn't catch on competitively. It's boring as shit to watch.
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>>338939932
Nothing. He's shit posting. There's more players probably in OW than smite right now.
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>>338939828
DIE DIE DIE
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>>338939971
Depends on how good your laptop is, but Blizzard tends to do good with optimization

Also it depends on if you like class-based shooters
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>>338933521
You mean McCree, right?
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>>338940242

Its a year or so old, nothing great, I did used to love TF2 back in the day.

But I worry about ping and such. I have no money for another month anyway so only planning ahead!

Thanks anonfriend.
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>>338940152
Who seriously watches other people play videogames?

Hots is fun for the non-autistic moba fans who like micromanaging money
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>>338940179
Blizzard doesn't need you to shill their games. They made heroes in HotS incredibly overpriced to make sure of that.
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Zenyatta is a shitty healer. He's in that same situation as d.va, where she can't do her labelled role alone either.
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>>338936576

Okay, if your kills are on objective, they can't complain.. but if you've mostly been dueling out on the sidestreets and you lose because you're NOT killing on objective.. then you should go play a TDM game.
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>>338940337
Their own money maybe. There's no money in the actual game. Just a few boring choices for talents.
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>>338933036
Synergy.
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>>338939769
And you were a construction of flesh and bones made by someone else. Yet you're the only one allowed to have a spirit?
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>Reinhardt has really cool abilities
>the team will bitch you out if you do anything but hold your shield up like a fucking dork
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Do I always have to sit through the "Play of the game" or can I leave once the match is over without getting a penalty?
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>>338938878
fuck off marty
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>>338939769
As far as I can tell the Omnic monks sort of worship consciousness itself, regardless of origin.
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>>338939609
One thing I loved about Smite is that you can just pay $15 and have all the gods. I don't see that a lot in f2p games
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>>338936020
>People like Junkrat are so mad about it they nuke an entire country back to the stone age
I thought Roadhog was mostly responsible for that
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>>338933036
Switch Reinhardt with Winston for big bubble shield, so phara cant ult everyone as easily and 360 degrees of protection.
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Zenyatta isn't bad. You just need a competent team that doesn't charge in willy nilly. Play cautious, watch health bars, and place orbs accordingly.
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>>338936020
>>People like Junkrat are so mad about it they nuke an entire country back to the stone age
Wait what? Where can I read about this?
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>>338940576
>holding up my shield
>just pushed off a wave of attackers
>dumbass team runs off to go find someone to kill
>they didn't even notice the widow chipping away at my shield
>when nobody is looking, swat her with a shockwave
It's the little things.
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>>338940872
you mean the shield that breaks within one second of pharah's ult?
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>>338940415
This is because labels are arbitrary and stupid.
Reinhardt is the only dedicated tank, other are offensive/defensive or even support like Zarya characters. Support is a mix of healers and Symmetra - a builder, but another builder is in Defense category.
Attackers are not all attackers - some are frontline characters, some are flankers.
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>>338937998
No, D.Va's fires way faster. Like twice the rate of Mercy's.
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>>338933686
>Not also putting gorilla munch and jet set radio on top of bastion.
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>>338941083
You're right, but the game's team builder helper will still make retards think a lone d.va will fit the team's tanking needs. Likewise, I don't trust a lone zenyatta to heal a team.
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>>338941083
It should be something like this:
>Fronline
McRee, Pharah, Soldier 76, Roadhog, D.Va

>Flankers
Genji, Reaper, Tracer, Winston

>Area Denial
Bastion, Junkrat, Mei, Torbjorn

>Support
Zarya, Lucio, Mercy, Zenyatta

>Snipers
Widowmaker, Hanzo

>Shield
Reinhardt
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post healslut stories pls
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>start playing game
>everyone is really bad I dominate
>few games later it's getting a little more challenging, but I'm still doing really well
>few games later junkrats and pharas are making insane airshots, obviously played a lot demo/soldier
>widows snipe me the second I expose half an inch of myself
>mcrees never miss a shot
>have to play like a nofun faggot to do anything
It's CSGO Supreme and Global ranks all over again except I got there in a day.
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>>338931215
A lot of people don't understand that Lucio is an AOE healer either.
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>>338931734
His defense is that he kills most characters in a 1v1 faster than they kill him.

He could use his normal hp being replaced by armor though.
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>>338941262
>currybitch shouldn't even exist
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>>338940482

The driving force behind religion is that there are 2 things we don't know for absolute certain (at least in a theist's eyes, and we really had no scientific theories to explain it until 150 years ago or so).. What our origin is, and what happens to our consciousness after we die.

People who believe in religions and spirits/souls, still find life to be some miraculous magic, rather than biochemistry.

They don't buy scientific explanations for our existence and instead stick to magic.

For one, the scientific explanation doesn't sate the other unknown, the "what happens after we die?" question. All you know is existing, it's terrifying to think of not existing anymore in any way. Explaining our origin as the creation of a perfect being, who gave us an eternal soul that continues to exist after physical death, is comforting, you don't have to think about not existing anymore. It also makes us feel special, especially in Abrahamic traditions where we're told that we're God's FAVORITE creation, and to those people it gives their life PURPOSE.

Omnics were created by humans, they know the entire history of their race. They know they are nothing but hardware and software, their memory can be erased, their software deleted, their power supply shut off, and they just won't exist anymore. There's no mystery of how they got there or where they go when they "die"

They also know their direct purpose in "life" to serve humans.

I don't know what kind of logic leads them to spirituality in that framework.
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>>338941302
At least Ranked might happen some day eventually.
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>>338940967

I started googling after he posted that and so far what I've found is this:

http://blizzardwatch.com/2016/03/18/overwatch-roadhog-junkrat-origins/
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>yfw you hook a squishy hero as RoadHog
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>>338941637
>mfw the robots just invented the religion to lul humanity into a false sense of security so they could grow more powerful and one day snuff us out
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>>338942020
>russia aint having none of that shit
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>>338941858

Roadhog is kind of broken for being as tanky as he is.
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>>338941262
Hanzo functions better in a midline position than back at sniper range imo.
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>>338933354
The mercy should know when to heal reinhardt and when to boost bastion
Also calling out flanks would be critcal when using this strat or a hanzo, widowmaker, or even zen will fuck you up assuming any more than 5% of the playerbase of this game is good enough to even think of that
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>>338942020

That would make more sense than Omnics actually believing in spirits or souls.

They know that a good portion of humans believe in spirits/souls so they "find spirituality" in order to make peace with humans, maybe to falsely lull them.
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>enter lobby ready to be the only person willing to play support
>lucio and roadhog get chosen
>cool, I can play some pharah for once
>2 minutes later
>getting steamrolled
>the support and tank have switched to reaper and genji
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>>338942086
It's alright, because you can build ult off of a Roadhog like a motherfucker and he gets sniped hard with his no range shotgun and abysmal move speed.
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>>338937971
>>338938154
>Mfw soloing offense retards who cant aim for shit with it
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>>338937729
It's balanced by the fact that he's a terrific damage source in addition to a light healer.
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>>338941593
I played as her for the first time last night and she was much better than I was expecting. I was surprised at how many turrets I could put down and how quick the cool down was to place them
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>>338940816
Its basically not even a f2p game in terms of business model, it's just a cheap game with the best demo ever.
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>>338942573
If they weren't quick to place down they'd be useless since they only have 1 hp each and can die to a stiff breeze.
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>>338930339

>play healer
>see teammates ignore good strategical positions, missing a lot of opportunities to blast the entire enemy team away and generally shooting at walls above all else

Playing healer is painful.
You're basically trading away your ability wreck shit to support players who can't even think on that level.
I'd be happy to play a healer if I had a good team but that almost never happens.
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>>338942552

It is, I'm not saying he's a bad hero I'm saying he's a bad healer and so if you pick Zenyatta you shouldn't expect people to suck your dick for being "the healer" if you want praise for being a healer, go Mercy or Lucio. Mercy if you really like healing like that's all you want to do is top off people's bars and maybe buff their damage and res people, Lucio if you don't really want to heal but your team needed a support and you figured "hey, there's cliffs on this map I can throw people off of"

unfortunately a Lucio ult will never get PotG, and it's pretty hard to PotG as Lucio.

Mercy can get PotG's with resses.
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>>338932891
>expecting to go in 4 different directions to heal everyone

you do realize that healers aside from Lucio are dead slow. I played Mercy and I'm not trying to chase down every single solo cuck to heal them because by the time I get there they will already be dead
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>>338931523
>pick zenyatta
>5k heals 15 kills and saved people from junkrats ult by using my ult in his face
Honestly people need to stop being shit. His biggest weakness is that widowmaker one shots him even with body shots which is fucking retarded. He should survive with like 1 hp
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>>338942783

Just play Lucio and shoot at people, push them off point, push them off cliffs, and play on point. If people want heals, they can play the objective and get heals constantly, and bigger heals on about a 12 second cooldown, and if they're not taking damage, they can get sanic.
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>>338943101

But I resent Lucio because of how broken OP he is.
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>>338936701
Healing in WoW always been a joke even retard could do. Doing decent dps now thats where most people are incompetent... (too hard to go read 10 min about your class and rotation it seems)

Anyone can fill a support role and do ok, I appreciate you doing it because I dont have to but thats it...
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>Blue Chevrons are waypoints for team mates.
>That one is yellow, put a shield on it.
>That one is coming back to you, someone's chasing it.
>There's the payload, press Shift.
>Zenyatta is floating out of cover.
>That Reinhardt is about to pin you
>That Reinhardt is about to pin your teammate.

I don't know why most Zarya players are so fucking stupid, but then again I don't know why some players are so stupid to keep shooting my shield.

Bastion's adapted to Genji's faster than people adapt to Zarya's shield.
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>>338943171
Then enjoy your Ls and being unable to wallride.
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>>338942989
cute comic
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>>338937778
>SLDL with EZ Bar
>those retarded high top wedges
>instawhore

these people need to fucking die. Vapid cunts
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>>338943171

Then don't complain about healing retards.

Playing as Lucio you can ignore retards and they can passively benefit if they stop being QUITE as retarded as long as they play objectives and not skirmishing.

Any time someone calls for heals when I'm lucio, I look at the objective and push F.

If they can't take the hint they can just die.
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>when you learn how to play zarya and it just clicks

her ult is the best thing in the world
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>>338930339

this butch cunt casually runs up to you and yells

> I'M GOING FOR THE TOBLERONE

what do you do?
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>>338936234
It sadly work most of the time, did the same twice yesterday lol...
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Why is Symetra considered a support? She's a pretty great builder, arguably even better than Tjorn, but she doesn't support at all! Her only means of healing is by giving people 20 shields. Tjorn gives 50 armor, that's more supportive. Soldier 76 actually lets you heal every 8 seconds, that's more supportive too.
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>>338943219
I think a lot of people don't understand her shield mechanic which is why they don't ever play her and keep shooting even when her shield is up. I didn't understand in the beta but when I figured it out she became a lot of fun to play.

>On commendation block as Zarya
>27 shields produced, 5,000 damaged blocked
>No one upboats and votes go to McCree instead
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Lucio is amazing.
>Bumping a Mercy and her bitch tank into a hole
>His ult.
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>"I am on fire, but an extinguisher is not required"
Fucking Zen
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>>338943685
OW FUCK
HURTS MY HANDS
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> tfw heading to the capture point
> focused shooting shit on the background
> fall to my death

who the fuck put a hole in the middle of the control point
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>>338943835

It's a real shame that his ult will never be PotG even though sometimes it should be.

>99 to 99 in KotH game
>we have the point but it's contested
>see a Pharah rise into the air
>JUSTICE
>Shield my teammates
>survive the ult and win

Without the shield she could have potentially wiped us and capped and they'd win while we were running back.
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>Thought Zenyattas horus costumes were the coolest shit
>Actually start playing as him
>Dont want anything but his default look

Buddhist zen robots too good
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>>338936701
You sound as gay as the man in your gif
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>>338943779
Only problem is she becomes pretty much useless when people do know her. Although I guess having two seconds of nobody daring to shoot at you or the guy you're protecting is still something.
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>>338930339
hello mr marketer
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>>338944183
I'm just hoping that they steadily improve the PotG algorithm so that it's more that, "lel, this guy got a triple kill with death blossom, 10/10 skill".
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>Countdown reaches zero and door opens
>Mei instantly blocks the exit with an ice wall

What were they thinking putting in a team blocking ability?
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>>338944573
u wot
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>guy complains we dont have enough tanks and supports
>he only plays Genji and Soldier 76
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>>338944532
Yeah further down the line I feel like she's going to become a mostly useless character. Sucks
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>>338944830
>Enemy Mei tries to ice wall the fucking payload
>Payload instantly breaks through when pushed

Fucking Mei pickers I swear
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Does Soldier 76's visor actually make his bullets do more damage? Because I feel like I burst people down unreasonably fast when I use it.
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>>338944774

There's a type of potg called "Lifesaver" for say, interrupting an enemy's ult that would have wiped the team.

If I'd been say, a widowmaker and sniped Farah in the air when she started that ult, it very well could have been PotG, because there were 5 of us on the point in close proximity to each other.

But shielding and absorbing the ult? Doesn't count according to the game's scorekeeping right now.
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>>338930540
>telling people how to play
nigga are you insane?
get ready to get flamed at because you mentioned that someone is doing wrong, because everyone else thinks that you can pick whatever champs you want and theres no real aim to the game

nearly 50% of the matches ive been in are glorified TDM with objectives on the side.

fuck widowmakers
fuck snipers in general
and a special fuck you too, Mcree
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>>338945146

No but there's no bullet spread.

Even if your aim is exactly on point, you will miss some of your shots when spraying at people not ulted. But with his ult up, every single bullet will hit.
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>join in the middle of a match
>team is already at each other's throat and screaming into the mic
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>>338945342
His normal attack must have more spread than I thought then.
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>>338945146
Visor removes all spread so of course you will do more damage since every bullet is hitting. His gun is extremely strong so with no spread or falloff he does a ton of damage. You also reload faster so there is no downtime in you holding LMB and going to town.
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>>338930339
>Play a few games of zen to try him out
>by about the third game his orbs are almost an afterthought, too busy murdering everyone I see

Holy shit the damage
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>>338936701
All joking aside, this post makes you sound cancerous as fuck. Check yourself.
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Why didnt you vote yet,/v/?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10315840
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>>338945381
>join in the middle of a match
>30 seconds left to attack
>lose
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>Playing with 4/5 other friends
>One tryhard looks up what "pro" teams composition looks like
>Tries to convince us to run it and scrutinizes our picks if we don't

He's a hardcore LoLfag too. Like fuck that, I'm playing for fun.
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>>338930339
>>I want to punch every motherfucker who plays this game Jesus Christ
you're not alone, every time i play solo i just end up quitting. i can't deal with these pubs
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>>338945450
The aiming reticle has a circle around it that'll show you the spread. For Soldier 76 the spread is average to mid close range is where you want to be, unlike McCree, who's can snipe as well as sniper as long as you wait a bit before shot or just don't Fan the Hammer. Just don't have the zoom.
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>>338945632
nice thumbnail bro
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>Play of the game is a Reaper/Pharah ult that kills 4 or 5 people
>Not the Mercy rez that follows immediately after
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>>338932658
>Attack
>Widowmaker
>Hanzo
>Junkrat
>Torbjorn
>Bastion
>Take healer pls
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>>338945740
You forgot
>Symmetra

I've also seen Torj's put in some work on attack.
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Is tick still 20? It got really annoying getting hooked behind a wall.
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>>338944830
>the enemy doesn't have a Mei
>she's on your team.
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>>338940845
Roadhog didn't do shit

He's just a huge psycho who rules the wasteland. Junkrat supposedly found something incredible while scavenging the ruins of the robot facility and hired Hog to be his bodyguard
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>>338945729
>play of the game is bastion hiding in a corner holding left mouse button
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>>338936020
>People like Junkrat are so mad about it they nuke an entire country back to the stone age

I just found my favorite character
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>>338945615
>join match
>2 other people joined the same time I did
>"DEFEAT"
>didn't even choose a character yet
>"wow shit team"
>
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>>338945332
>champs
Lmao were you the faggot asking people to change to a tank when you were the second sniper on the team
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>>338931573

>This

He's more of a debuffer/back up healer.

He works really well in a Reinhart/Mercy combo or alongside Lucio.
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>>338946016
>Open box at level 6
>Legendary Junkrat skin
>Open box later on
>"Happy Birthday"

It was meant to be for me.
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>>338930339
But that's not a healer. That's a combat support character with an off-heal.
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>>338932815

It be great if they reworked his right-click to a shield. Something like Reinhart's shield but lasts as long as D.va's.
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This game has gotten me more angry than anything in the last decade or so and I seriously don't know what's worse.

Mei players who play like they have Down's syndrome and have to stand still for a few seconds to line up headshots after they freeze you.

Or Hanzo arrow spammers getting lucky headshots.
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>>338946281
>hanzo
>lucky headshots

This isn't TF2. You actually have to aim that bow, buddy.
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sheild as reinhardt and hope they dont have a hanzo
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>>338945632

>play with LoL-playing friend and his shitter buddies
>absolutely insists we do hardcore super epic team setups and play to win
>call him a fag because I'm playing robomonk and I don't want to stack Reinhardts and Bastions on the payload in a fucking quick match

>later play with other laid back friends, LoLshitter invites himself in
>playing offensive mobile Bastion for shits, chillfriend playing Reinhardt
>set up on payload for a short time while healing up, chillfriend walks by and starts guarding
>shitterfriend instantly starts spamming whispers telling me I'm a tryharding faggot
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I want this game, but I can't tell whether that's because it's fun or if it's because blizzard's been marketing this game to the ends of the earth, and it's bothering me too much to buy it.
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>>338930339
true suffering desu, their see my health bar when I am healing/buffing them, mercy fucking shouts 'behind you' or 'I need assistance' and rarely the cunts turn around. their lucky i love being a heal slut
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>>338931362
>tfw i top healing & eliminations with Lucio
>tfw PoTg is me killing 4 people alone
>tfw this only ever happens on Ilios
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>>338946386
So you didn't get into the Open Beta to try it out? Sounds like a personal problem.
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>Queue with five friends
>One goes Zenyatta
>Two are perma-tracers
>The rest are cool
>Every time Zenyatta dies he complains that we're not near him to protect him when literally the whole team is at the Payload
>The two tracers accomplish nothing against the enemy team except successfully bugging them for two seconds before they destroy them both or heal back to full
>Everyone else is just trying their hardest until the last minute when it's apparent we can't do much


I don't think I want to play this game with friends but playing alone is like accepting that you will just lose
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>>338945729

>Play of the game is a multikill Deadeye/Riptire/Rocket Barrage immediately followed by a full resurrection making the play worthless
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>>338943616
best and worst at the same time
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>>338946686
Playing alone is like that except that instead of a Zenyatta you have a third Tracer
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>>338936701

>self-flattering healslut the post
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>>338930339
they somehow managed less teamwork than tf2. Its just everyones personal dm
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>>338930642
It's a Widowmaker existing at all episode
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>team has two Tracers, two Reapers, and a Widowmaker

What do you do in this situation?
>>
JUST
EXPERIENCE
MY TRANQUILITY
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>>338945870
>Mei on my team blocks the door
>God damnit
>Time is running out on capturing the point at hanamura
>D.Va on our team launches her robot at the enemy team, and they can't get out of the way in time
>Mei on our team fucking blocks it and doesn't put it down fast enough, so it gets nobody and we lose
>After the match just goes WHAT SHITTERS IT WASN'T MY FAULT YOU SHOULD OF TOLD ME
I swear Mei players are so used to holding down w and the left mouse button that when its required that they use even a little bit of brain power, they are completely incapable of doing so.
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>Play Mercy
>Zip around the map healing me entire team with a dash that is on a 3 second cool down.

If you aren't going to be Lucio or Mercy, just dont be a healer.
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>>338930339
>be dps/tank
>actually pop defensive cooldowns when hit an oh shit situatiom and run to a tactical spot
>healer heals me
>continue as planned, healer not blamed, me not blamed
It's like people can't play their classes, they have these abilities for a reason
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This thread is like a group of people discussing Chef Boyardee as if it were real Italian food. Overwatch is 6/10 fun for a few rounds then it becomes tedious. Even with a group it's boring from being too easy. It's the Fisher Price Babies First of FPS games and gaming in general.

This new trend where you have games with ten thousand different voice lines telling you everything happening is fucking absurd.
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>>338946374
>Aim the bow
>Charged headshots are instant kills on most characters
>Inplying you can't just sling arrows down a hallway and rack up the kills by hoping someone walks in your path
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>>338947042
Counter the Widowmaker with another Widowmaker A McRee for the Tracers and laugh because Reaper
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>>338946379
If you truly are his friend, tell him to go fuck himself and re-evaluate his lives choices because he sounds like a twat
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>that glorious feel when sniping as Mei
She's really growing on me
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>>338936701
>Main healer in every WoW xpac except for Draenor because I really enjoy healing
>Feels good, like protecting people and I have some fun DPS classes on the side for PVP or to run around
>Have every healer at level cap
>best friend has every tank at level cap, only plays tank, loves to protect people and be the big beefy guy even though he's a fag and plays female belf pally
>I get him invited to raids because people like me
>He gets me invited to raids because people like him
>They always end up liking both of us

>Try healer in every game, usually have fun
>Love Mercy, play her a lot.
>He plays Reinhardt, plays him a lot

Life's pretty good when you're not a ginormous faggot.
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>>338942989
>Implying you can get Play of the Game by reviving people
0/10, not realistic
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>>338947098
This sounds worse than Ymir's ice wall on Smite.
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>>338947692
this, I got a quad revive and still didnt get it.
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>>338947172
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>Playing that KotH map with the hole in the middle
>Playing Rein, shielding for team so we can make a comeback (We're at 0% and they're at 99%)
>Lucio sneaks around us, team does nothing and lets him shove me into the hole
>Shitposts in chat trying to egg me on
>He tries it again later
>Turn around and shut him down as soon as I see him run across the screen
>2/10 shitpost attempt from him
>Repeat
>Utter silence, we win the comeback
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>>338930642
>it's a playing as Mei and contesting but you die and by the time you get back, the payload is half way across the map because no one besides you bothers contesting episode
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>>338946716
>Oh man fuck all that press Q for PotG shit
>You know what DID deserve PotG? That time that I pressed Q
>Only I didn't have to be in any sort of compromising or strategic position to press Q, nor did I need any sort of situational awareness since there is a huge popup on screen informing you of how many are dead and exactly where they died

Honestly it's one thing that mercy mains are all self-important autists, but when they actually try to claim that what they do takes any sort of skill I just laugh. At least Lucio and Zen both have to anticipate death before it happens, or have good reflexes. Mercy is just "Oh shit I failed to keep my team alive and our push got shit on. Just kidding XD"
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>>338938707
>Well ok, Symettra's alt fire is worse. I guess you can have that one.
Symmetra's alt isn't really for direct damage, it's for spamming down chokepoints. It passes through shields too so it's great for spamming at Reinhardts clusterfucks.
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>>338932891
That one healer that ONLY heals his friend
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>playing Arcade
>multiple Junkrats
>more bombs than Baghdad
Top kek.
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>>338945890
On the wiki it says that Roadhog was originally Mako Rutledge, part of the Australian Liberation Front. Then the ALF blew up the Australian Omnic city, turning the place into a radioactive wasteland, and then Mako became known as Roadhog.

So he may not have personally destroyed the robot facility but he was part of the group that did.
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>>338930339
Zenyatta is quite an awesome offensive minded support character if you know how to use him. He takes skill and situational awareness though.
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>>338930642
>it's a widowmaker gets picked on attack episode
>it's a tank is a pussy bitch episode but the team comp is fucked because you got pigeonholed into healing instead of tanking
>it's mcree on defense episode

I don't have the money to buy this game but I fucking know once I do everyone on my friends list playing it will stop because they got bored.
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So you want to get healed huh loser?

Well then I have one question for you... who are you going to vote for at the end of the round?
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>>338948279
This. Also Symmetra is oddly effective on attack because of her altfire and setting defense matrix on the underside of payload. Payload needs to be going uphill or downhill tho.
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>>338930339
Get your friends to play the game with you, assuming you have any.
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>>338937214
>Playing a healer/support WELL is objectively a more advanced role in 99% of all games, than playing any damage dealer.

Actually, from a game-perspective, the damage dealer role is always the hardest to fulfill, as there just aren't many people around that are actually good at knowing the mechanics to get the most out of their skills & avoid dying, while supports often bank on how good other players are and amplifying that and tanks usually having huge passive mitigating or "oh shit" skills when they fuck up.

That said the actual role is always filled with people simply being bad at videogames (you have probably noticed the difference a bad widowmaker vs a good widowmaker makes)
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>>338948457
>200% Health
>150% Ultimate Gain
>75% Faster Ability Cooldowns

I don't know what they were thinking when they came up with this mode.
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>>338948457
>Arcade, point capturing
>Everybody is winston
The overtime was 15 minutes long. You can probably imagine what was transpiring.
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>>338941637
Just because you know where you come from doesn't mean you know where you'll go once you die/shut down.

There's nothing that stops a bunch of bolts from being spiritual if they want to. Plus aren't the Omnics monks mostly about equality with humans?
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>>338948786
arcade mode is great
you need to get your team to be all one person it helps if you're already in a party with at least 3 people

6 mei's are literally invincible. ice wall is off CD by the time ice block is done and ice block has like a 5 sec CD
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>>338948593
widow and McCree should always be picked no matter what side you are on because they are broken as fuck.
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>>338941781
This is already ranked, the only thing missing is an epeen meter
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>>338948228

I see your point. I don't actually play Mercy myself, but if the resurrection comes out so fast it's fucking visible at the end of the play then everyone can see that the play had absolutely no effect on the game. Play of the game should go to something completely different in that case.
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>>338947692
It seems to be a bit of a mix, i killed a Reaper that was frozen by Mei then revived 3 team members and got PoTG
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>>338948994
Don't worry, you're not in the shit until you see Widowmakers using the grappling hook to get multiple midair kills. Or Meis blocking of doorways for a full 20s with wall and iceblock.
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>>338948963
it doesn't matter how good they are if 99% of the people play them are just shitters who saw some good person do something with them so now they just run around trying to TDM instead of do objectives
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>>338930339
>Expecting teamwork and support in a pub game on babbys first moba
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>>338949630
Even a McCree shitter is an asset to the team. Unlike, say, a Genji shitter, who is just useless.
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>>338935412
Yeah I agree Hanzos are shit but so are you.
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>>338930339
I was hoping Overwatch was fixing the Tank/DPS/Healer issues by adding in some fun tanks and healers but get that feeling that Mercy and Reinhardt are going to be mandatory to win pub games.

Why must they keep making these games when the majority of people refuse to pick anything other than their MLGPRO420 offensive characters?
Feels like TF2 watching everyone else have fun and post smug emoticons while you played Medic knowing full well if you changed class they would all turn into cunts and wouldn't even consider picking medic themselves.
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>play zenyata
>more kills damage and objective time than my entire team
Every match.
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>>338946514
I got in, it was a pretty good game,but not really deserving of all the hype.
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>>338950063
Then don't buy it. I don't know what else to say. Fuck, why are you even in this thread then?
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>>338930540
i never have had anyone use a mic in this game
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>>338950253
because I can't seem to escape overwatch, and I had to air my grievances somewhere. maybe I should've made my own thread for this.
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>>338948041
I did this but I was the shit talking pharah and I only did it after I knocked 4 reinhardts into the naughty reinhardt hole
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>>338950506
Dude, just ride the wave or don't. Don't sit there asking why the wave exists in the first place
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>>338950008
>but get that feeling that Mercy and Reinhardt are going to be mandatory to win pub games
Lucio can work as a Mercy substitution very easily. And if you're REALLY good, you can do it with the Monk.
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>join game
>payload attack
>4 people already locked in
>genji, widow, hanzo, mcree
>can ready tell this is going to be fun
>me and one guy left to pick
>waiting to see if he picks a support or a tank
>picks a second mcree
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>>338953079
Lilo and Stitch is such a good fucking movie.
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>>338933261
>play Mercy
>Zen on my team
>always heal/buff him so he oneshots everyone

it was fun af
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>>338939106
>Hog not immediately blasting you with a headshot
What was his problem?
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>>338939329
I feel sorry for every zen I hook with Hog, it's just not fair for the poor bastard.
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>main supports, with some tanking when needed
>get Young Genji from lootbox
>well might as well try him out i guess
>top 4 gold medals by deflecting torbjörn, pharrah and mccree all game
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>>338953356
Probably had to reload. Happens to me.
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>level 20
>Already have legendary Skins for both Hanzo and Genji

How did blizzard's RNG know I was a weeaboo faggot?

neither of them are the 'young animu character' ones so I consider myself genuinely lucky
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>>338953079
I'm at my wits end here.
I'm sick of being the only guy on my team who plays tank/support and I'm sick of always being the only guy standing on the control point while the rest of my team either died trying to bumrush a Bastion or are standing miles away failing at sniping people.
I want to enjoy this game but shit, they should make it so only three offense characters are allowed per team or something.
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>>338930339
>play mercy
>great someone picked pharah this will be fun
>he literally never super jumps and stays at the ground all the time
I don't think I ever came across something more frustrating, even tanks that dont turn 180 degrees to help their heal slut is more tolerable.
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>>338950008
If you're good with your boosts and ult Lucio is way better than Mercy for pubs because you can heal 5 people at once adn have a pseudo full heal with the shield.

Of course you can't do shit like revive an entire team that got memed by Reaper but you get to fly around on the walls and push people like an asshole.
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>>338953770
Why would you hook then?
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>>338930339
GAZE INTO
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>>338953881
>Not wanting to play Gato
What are you, gay?
Those wolf ones are really cool though.
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>>338933036
i had some minor success by being Lucio alt fire bumping both reinheart and mercy off. Only works if team has good enough reaction time to realize they can instantly kill bastion without a shield up
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>that one mcree that knows exactly how to stay hidden until they can flank the entire enemy team
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>>338933036
>Hog rounds the corner and hooks Bastion
But really, if the enemy team is retarded (as is the case in most pubs) this strategy is nearly unbeatable.
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>>338941139
>>338939069

Mercy's pisol should actually be straight up better than D'va's.
Mercy's pistol do 100DPS and holds 400 damaga in a mag.
D'va's does 93.24DPS and holds 280 damaga in a mag. Also Mercy's got 1 sec reload instead of D.va's 2 sec.
A thing to consider is D.va's gun got 30% higher rate of fire, so it's slight easier to hit with (?), but she needs to reload a lot more often, also it don't affect DPS. Mercy however usually needs to switch to the gun, so unless you are familiar with it, D'va will seem better, but is actually just straight up worse.
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>>338935412
>Play Hanzo for the first time because everyone on the team slowly locked into a lmao6hanzo team
>Expect things to go horribly
>One shot half the people I meet thanks to purely lucky headshots
>One shot the other half by just scatter arrowing at their feet
What a stupid fucking hero
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>playing pub match with two friends
>Japanese capture the two objectives map
>other team has two Bastions, Reinhardt, two Mercy's, and a D.Va
>It's on like Winston Kong
>be Junkrat
>avoid the main chokepoint at the gate, sticky bomb bounce to the sniper point to the top left of the giant gate
>kill the two bastions, reinhardt, and one of the mercy's from behind
>potg
>we capture both checkpoints in one and a half minutes
>achievement for no deaths and capping both objectives for all players on my team but one

Most dominant pub team that I've been on.
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>>338930339
>play guardian because no one else does
>five matches later
>>338930540
Are you kidding me? You can't tell someone how to play THEIR game. Everyone knows mics only have three purposes:

A) Screaming at other players
B) Breathing into heavily
C) Blaming your team
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>>338955702
Hell, even playing Hanzo legit is scummy because you can headshot with scatter arrow and then make the area around them a fucking hazard zone
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>>338931215
Pro-tip, they aren't saying "COME FUCKING HEAL ME YOU RETARDED NIGGER". they're letting you know they need healing so you're aware of it. Stop taking it so personally, god damn.
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How we thank our healers?
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Is there a really good counter to a really good widowmaker?

I mean a really good widowmaker.
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>queue up
>go into skirimish
>kicked onto another server
>skirmish
>repeat 6 more times
It's stil happening
someone help
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>>338957164
Junkrat looks so

naaauuughty.
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>>338930642
>its a Widowmaker, a Hanzo, and a Torbjorn on your attacking team on a payload map
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>>338957164
GET OVER HERE AND HEAL UP
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>>338957164
Genji or being a better Widowmaker, unless you mean Spiderwoman with a gun then you're on your own.
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>King's Row
>AGAIN
>We're defending
>See Hanzo and Widowmaker immediately get picked
>We get stomped

Why do so many stupid motherfuckers pick snipers

I DON'T GET IT
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>>338957642
Who needs any other character when you can point and click?
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>>338930339
Mercy can instantly fly to anyone in her line of sight with very little cooldown. Lucio is meant to be on the front lines, his buffs are based on close line of sight, and he's extremely mobile. Zenyatta can put out large amounts of damage with Discord and his attacks, and Harmony can be flung huge lengths with the only stipulation that Zenyatta stays alive to pump out health. The Supports in Overwatch are designed to give their players no trouble in getting health and buffs/debuff where they need to be.

And yet you think everyone else is at fault because you want to sit back and be a glorified health pack doing half the job you need to. Eat a dick OP.
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I'm so fucking sick of all the little shits playing this game like its fucking Call of Duty. Every fucking game it's the same shit. Auto lock Hanzos. Need a support? That last players gonna pick Hanzo. Too many snipers? Hanzo. Attacking Payload? Hanzo. Fuck you faggots your KDR doesn't mean shit in this game. How about you fucking pick someone who can actually hold a point and not your easy kill husbando faggot bullshit. REEEE
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>>338957164
This is the fundamental problem with snipers in video games.

The only counters are
>A better sniper
Which turns the match into a sniper circlejerk where nobody plays the objectives or has any fun except for the best sniper
>Flanking/Hiding carefully
Which is literally impossible as long as their team has at least one semi-competent person fighting to distract people and flush them out of cover. They don't even need to kill anyone, just distract people.
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>>338957164
Winston.
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>>338930642
>it's a sniper doing sniper things episode

learn to counter
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>>338957164
Using more buff heroes that flat out can't be killed without multiple shots. The amount of time she's going to have to spend to take you all out means that someone is going to get up in her business, which means she'll at least be uprooted if not killed.

For a hard counter, I'd say D.Va due to her jets, Defense Matrix, and Eject. She can really get up in there and push her out, sometimes literally.
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>>338957164
Winston is your best bet
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>>338933261
This.

Stay back and heal your reinharts, dwarfs, and POTG bots. The debuff has a nice range too, use it alot, and if you have a mic let people know who has the debuff and use the charged attack, i takes about 4 seconds to fully charge. pop ult in cap points or when pushing. dont wast it to escape when your getting killed.
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>>338959026
This, Winston is technically a tank but he plays surprisingly well like Tracer or Reaper, a hero with good mobility who acts as a harasser/ambusher.

Against Widow in particular he's a really good ambusher since he has enough health to laugh off her poison/machine gun and a jump to follow her when she grapples away.
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>>338959232
>Charged attack
Single fire does more DPS than charging up shots and firing. Charged shots are a good damage spike though, so only charge if you KNOW you're gonna land a hit. Like if you have wallhax and you see an enemy Roadhog is about to walk around the corner.
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>>338958269
No man, Winston is a really hard counter. One match Implayed as widowmaker for funsies a Winston had me shut down the entire game. It doesn't help that the match was a shutout, but that Winston never let me get a shot off or get away, and I'm a well above average sniper player.
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