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How's everyone enjoying TWW so far? Vamps are pretty fun.
Underground battles against urki and grobi are the comfiest
So how badly does it run?
I tried to play Attila but got under 30 fps with a gtx970.
>>338913996
Probably wont be able to run it if you can't run Attila. I have a new comp, and have had no issues/bugs yet.
Just sort of finished my first campaign with greenskins, only sort of because I was at the point where the only remaining act was to go through the betrayal event and I was rolling around with 4 doomstacks full of orcs, trolls, night goblin archers and 3-6 monsters (Azhag stack was just him, 5 night goblin archers, a night goblin shaman, 7 units of black orcs, 3 giants, and 3 Arachnoroks)
Had something like 40k gold in reserves and was making 2k a turn because I had something like 30 settlements and outside of 2 core unit producers they all had a boss tent and a cave of money generation
>>338913996
On a 6950 and my only problem so far has been slowish load times and that's just because my SSD is being slow on online delivery.
>>338913996
>>338914351
Game is now 64bit and has had "some" optimization to offload some cpu work onto the gpu, so in most cases it should run better than Attila. That said this is one of the few games that AMD had more hand in development than Nvidia, and for most people it shows. With a 7970 I get about the same performance as I did with Attila, this time though I'm running pretty much everything on ultra compared to the next step down with that game.
>>338913718
I've been having fun, haven't made any progress, just been messing around with different factions
Runs considerably well, especially since my processor is so bad.
It's a shame so many people shitpost about it, however, I've noticed that it only really occurs during the day. Normally at night time there's good WH threads
>>338915517
well, what campaigns did you play anon?
What does this mean?
>>338916093
I've tried dwarfs and vampires so far
I'm not sure which I enjoy more than the other since my microing and General "battle mechanics" aren't very good
I put all my infantry on my front line, with the ranged units behind and I then proceed to use my flank units to run into the side of my enemies
Most of the time half of the enemy army gets away since I don't know where to position my soldiers
I tried 5 turns of chaos and did horribly
>>338916682
It means he has 16 units in there but you aren't in range to see what they are
>>338916682
it's just showing you how many units there are, but not what they are
>>338916682
It means someone managed his province very badly and now a stack of very angry dudes of unknown army composition spawned to fuck him up.
>>338913718
My GOTY thus far. Vampire Cunt Master Race.
>>338913996
Much better for me.
>>338916763
chaos plays differently than the other factions.
>>338916789
I was referring toAborash, I know it isn't the right spelling
Doing Carstein in a coop campaign, having fun.
Just did a failed Dorf run. He wants to do Emp & Dorf next bro-op.
Trying to figure out what faction to attempt next.
>>338913996
I'm running it at 60 fps with a gtx 760 on high settings
>>338917065
Chaos is supposed to be the hardest, try doing a campaign with the LL mod so you can both run chaos.
>>338917065
>tfw all of your friends play mobas
>"that game looks boring"
>>338913996
I have a 980 (not a TI either) and I get 40+- fps in the largest battles I can make when shit hits the fan.
I toned down most of the environmental settings to medium though, as to allow keeping shadows on and units all on ultra.
To me it's more important to see the unit detail than it is to see pretty grass.
>>338913718
Does anyone else not like the majority of the Quest battles? Most of them follow the exact same formula; "Go up against enemies you're slightly over-matched for and then fight off reinforcements" over and over
>>338917228
Did he update it to support chaos? Last I looked the Chaos lords weren't supported
>>338917228
Interesting idea. Will toss that at him next session.
>>338917303
I'm glad we've moved on from the MOBA phase like 4 years ago. Though he and I have been bro-oping since Shogun 2. I used to prefer sharing troops but he sucks with my monsters and hasn't gotten used to spells yet, so it starts to piss me off.
Is there a SLI profile up yet for nvidia? I wish I hadn't fallen for the "two GPUs meme".
Is chaos working as intended? It just seems added in last minute without planning.
How do I gain a better income with chaos
>>338917502
probably
even if they werent playable im pretty sure we would still have the annoying horde raider blobs
>>338913996
Game runs awesome for me, I am using shitty stuff too. Only dips when playing huge battles, which is around 40~45 then it goes up back to 60+ at 1920x1080, settings are a mix of high-ultra. My specs are FX6350(stock)/R9 390 with 16gb ddr3@2133mhz
>Playing as Vamps
>No one wants to trade
>Fuck them up in wars
>They'd rather die than be my vassal
Why does no one like me :(
>>338916682
>Abhorash
Blood Dragons when?
>>338917398
No idea, haven't even tried co-op yet, that would be pretty shitty though because it seems the most obvious to run with.
>>338917502
I skipped Attila but this seems to be pretty close to the same mechanic. Instead of realm divide or civil war you get some nomadic razing fuck heads that get buffed unit spam.
>>338917727
I'm hoping its the vamps next LL and blood dragons get a unit, fuck Krell and the people who want him.
>>338917502
They were always going to be in even if they weren't playable.
>>338917815
I meant as a playable race. It's impossible to get cash cause everything is razed. But seems like everyone I raid someplace or sack a town, it's just delaying my eventual bankruptcy. That and the fact that if you have two stacks next to each other they rape each other makes it seem like more of a fun run then an actual playable campaign
How does I economy in this game?
>>338918015
Oh right, yea there needs to be some patching going on. I appreciated awakening some north folk to the cause to find out, you can't trade with them.
With the financial troubles and stupid as shit growth rates, I'm holding off on them until some info gets tossed out. They should have let the review copy peoples have a go at them for testing purposes. Hindsight and such.
>>338918048
wut faction?
>>338918202
Empire, Counts and Dwarfs
>>338918387
Drakenhof is a gold mine (literally). Use a slot in it for the gold mine building, what ever it's called. For Dwarfs, gold mines to the northeast and south of the Silver Road, do the same. Haven't fucked enough with the Empire to help there.
>>338918048
>>338918387
For Dwarves, there is an Orc city called something Black Mines to the south. Just keep sacking that every few turns because they don't build up an army to fend you off.
>>338917725
cuz you are a fag
>be dwarfs while bro plays vamps
>expand my land, take over some ork settlements
>army too big and settlements not paying enough / didn't focus on economy at all to fund my army
>bro has a gold mine so he shovels money my way
>had notifications about a waaagh forming, didn't care because it was in the south
>waaagh is now at my door step and took all my settlements
>only my capitol is left with 18 units
>holding off invasions
>bulk of the waaagh heads further north as more ork clans make their way into my territory
>my capitol is now a shield that breaks the ork horde
>they other siege me or head further north
>on the map I'm just a yellow blip among a sea of green
This is it lads, my days are numbered
>>338919615
>ever letting orks build waaaghs
you fucked up big time
I played Vamps as a test run, up till about turn 150, but I'd already made so many mistakes, not knowing what I should do with tech and hero upgrades, that it was pretty shit.
Restarted with Dwarfs last night, shit is so cash money, going to make the most badass firing lines of thunderers and canons the Greenskins have ever seen
had to restart on easy because i was getting fucked on normal, that was something new. also why WHY did they leave out siege battles for smaller settlements? that makes the game feel like some kind of facebook total war clone
which one is the shooty faction?
>>338920037
Dwarfs
infantry specialises in bracing for charges, and ranged units are great
How's the faction variety?
My biggest concern with games based on lore is that there's not enough factions to fight.
Vampire Counts here, turn 160 and managed to defeat Chaos. Things are getting pretty comfy except for:
>Receive a quest to get Armour of Templhof
>"wow this is exciting i wonder where it is"
>quest marker is all the way down in the badlands
how the fuck am i supposed to get there CA
>>338920145
The factions are all totally opposite to one another, if that's what you mean. It's basically the opposite of a game like Shogun 2, where everyone has the same units with slight stat differences.
Within factions, there's also quite a lot of variety, at least for some. Vamp tech is split into 4 sections, with 3 dedicated to each unit type - skellies/zombies, crypt monsters, and beasts. You can min-max to the extreme with Vamps and have superpowered, incredibly cheap hordes of zombies and skeletons, armies based around maximising the other unit types, or of course play more evenly and have a balanced army.
Won't even start for me.
I don't know what else I expected from CA.
>>338920469
burn everything as you go
>>338920469
Use the "teleport to quest" option it gives you, perhaps?
>>338921064
Holy fuck I had no idea you could do that, thanks anon
>>338918387
As Dwarfs, get an army to take Mount Gunbad as early as possible and build a gold mine. You're now pretty much set for the entire campaign.
>>338921238
What about the Empire?
>>338920553
What's the problem exactly?
>>338921413
Haven't played them yet.
>>338913718
I was going to buy it but it looks just like a mod for Shogun 2
>>338921967(You)
It's realply, really fun.
>tfw you fuck Sigvald up
Bretonnia is fun to play, can't wait for their freelc.
>>338921967
Nice b8
>>338913996
I'm running it on ultra with stable 50+fps on a radeon r9 270x.
Some people with nvidia cards have reported poor performance though.
>>338919841
They started far in the south, I was powerless.
>>338917725
Empire has an "Aversion" malus to Vamps, it's like a permanent -40. If you've just gotten done kicking their shit in, your relations with them is gonna be abysmal. Unfortunately they've never really figured out how to make the AI reasonable about surrendering when death is certain; then again, sometimes people DO prefer death to subjugation, particularly to filthy Undead who intend to use you as cattle.
That being said, I was surprised while besieging Templehof as the vampires; they were surrounded, but still had a strong garrison that would take a while to reduce or cost me a lot of fodder to clean out. After only a turn of siege, they offered a peace treaty and to become my vassals. That very, very seldom happens in TW games, so it gives me hope. However they are obviously more inclined to my overlordship than the worshippers of Sigmar would be.
Paid 60$ for it. Usually buy off gray market but I bought Steam so I could refund if performance was shitty, might refund and buy a key to save 20$ but eh.Have to say I'm happy that it finally runs how it should. Rome 2 runs like shit on my i5 2500k and gtx 970
Tfw no legendary harem of boipussy
>>338918547
Empire has insane growth, and a meaty little cash cow to the northwest called Marienburg who are rightful Empire clay and should be brought to heel immediately. Both the capitol and it's town produce trade resources, cinnabar and salt respectively. That should give you the shot in the arm you need to start; tailoring workshops do the rest.
Just won a vamp match, time to try dwarfs.
Thinking about getting this but is it ok or awesome?
I ask because I got Rome 2 and it sucked ass and looked very plain.
Then I get Attila and it ran like ass and the infinite armies of the Huns was really gay.
>>338921064
holy shit i never knew you could do that
>>338919615
I found the best way to blunt the Orcish hordes early on is to attack and RAZE the orcish settlements immediately to your south. There should be 3 of them without walls in relatively easy reach. Sack them for loot, raze them next turn. This, in my game at least, put them on the back foot and they turned south to unify the badlands hordes. It also allowed my hill dwarf cousins to the southwest (I forget the name, purple faction) to make some inroads, as well as the Border Princes. By the time the Orcs were able to get some steam up again, I had wiped them out of the northern mountains and fused with my neighbor to the north. 3 provinces and plenty of dosh to deal with them.
>>338922569
its good but if you didnt like other total war games you wont like this
How in the unholy fuck do I start out as Chaos? Aside from the first norscan settlements, the dwarfs and Kislev around me are rampaging around with full stacks of shit.
>>338913718
my economy is stunted as ffuck
>>338917889
But what if we want Krell and Blood Dragons? And would settle for having the latter first just to get a vampire lord that's not fucking Mannfred "I'm a whiny bitch" Von Carstein?
>Get quest to raise new army
>Can barely support 2
Why me get shit quest men?
>>338913718
>Chaos
>Kislev is gone by turn ten and by turn 40 I'm hiding from the fucking horseman doomstacks made by the fuckers with the boat as their emblem
Okay. Someone needs to unfuck this. I just had two armies of Chaos soldiers get wiped out by four armies of horsemen.
>>338923642
you only have to recruit a lord to fulfill this
>>338924060
SKAELING
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How do you go underground with dwarfs?
As Empire, how can i beat those two chaos factions from the north? They send army after army but when I went to their settlements in not-Scandinavia , I couldn't attack them.
>>338924985
I'm having trouble beating them as Chaos.
So far, I found crying is the best option.
>fighting against chaos with dorfs
>snowniggers chucking spears at my gyrocopters
kek
>>338924939
army stance
>>338913996
Also 970, running smooth on ultra
>>338925168
Take a screenshot of yer settings, comrade
>>338924985
>>338925050
If you're having trouble with invading the Chaos wastes, remember that by using only half of your movement points, you can change to encampment stance, and this negates attrition. It makes it a slow business, but you can slowly camp-hop your way through their lands with doom stacks and purge the place with Sigmar's cleansing fire. Or the fanaticism of your choice.
This also works in Vampire territory and makes that mess a lot more manageable. It's a great mechanic for them, as their lands are compact and easily overrun, so attackers either have to slow down, giving you time to react, or take losses from all the ghoulies lurking in the trees along the route of march.
There is a bar on the UI that will tell you how much movement points a move you are contemplating will take, just right click but don't release until the bar is at least half full still.
Also 970, no probs with attila.
I haven't played much, though.
>>338917505
You don't
You're always going to operating at a loss so just make sure to keep sacking cities and don't ever lose or its game over.
>>338925357
Nice tip, but is there a way to destroy then for good? Like I said, I can't attack their settlements at the coast.
>>338923367
Go fuck up the northern chaos tribes and DONT show mercy. You'll only end up having to fight those cunts again if you let them live.
ok I need help, how do i move a unit out of a army. I clicked the unit card. Then right click ground, yet the whole army still moves out????
Man this game looks fun but I never played something so complex before
I gave up on civ iv
>>338924060
>what are spears?
>>338926079
Your armies have to be led by a lord.
>>338926079
Are you baiting or retarded? I'm curious.
>>338926079
Can't, units have to have a commander present.
Only way to exchange units is to select one army and right click on another to swap dudes
>>338925357
Quality post anon, thanks for the advice.
>>338926079
You can't move individual units, only trade them between armies. Only hero units can move on their own.
>>338925670
desu I haven't ventured up there yet, but I've seen other people talking about it
Are you attempting to attack from the sea? I'm not sure you can even do that in this one. Land on the coast somewhere and approach the settlement from the landward side?
no crack, no discussion
its like you are new to /v/
>>338926146
You misunderstand me.
I am Chaos, and their horsemen are the same I have, they're missile cav.
Only while I have 3-4 per army, they have 15, and there is only so much chasing I can do.
>not having two of these fuckers in every army
Explain yourself
>>338925331
At work sorry m8
>>338926158
To be fair if he hasn't played a TW title in a while you can understand his confusion.
As of ... Rome 2? Armies MUST be led by a general/lord. So the best you can do with individual units is trade them between generals. It's a little annoying, but the idea was to make battles better because units will all be concentrated in the relatively few generals/lords you can have, and thus bigger. Rather than fighting lots of little stacks led by a captain that you can squash.
>>338920028
Because every total war game just ends up being siege battles one after the other.
>>338926267
*rattles explanation*
>>338917725
You can make goblins vassels
>1,500 of my units vs ONE GODDAMN HERO
>Takes 11 MINUTES to kill him even with the game sped up >>>
Was that a fucking bug or something? What the fuck was that
>>338926151
so Like this? I'm sorry the last total war I played was empire.
>>338926313
yeah haven't played any of the new ones, the ui is fucking horrible to use, but fun game
How the hell am I supposed to take down Archaon if he runs across the Old World like a Jamaican?
It doesn't help that I'm VC and have to chase him through uncorrupted land.
>>338926124
Dude, it's not that complicated. Give one of the older Total War games a shot - this one is practically the same.
>>338926430
Why do you think he was the Everchosen?
It was for his legs.
>>338913996
Got a 280x and an i5 4570 and game runs like shit, really dissapointed. 30 FPS tops on all settings except Low with 40-50. OS is Win7. Does anyone have the same setup?
>>338924060
>Autobattling
>>338926256
adapt your army by buying a shitton of chaos hounds, If you're good at meta you can try and trap the cav, or just leave them to chase them around the map while you steamroll their leader.
>>338926194
Yeah, I attacked them from the land not by sea.
>>338926414
>Get a hero with hero nerf abilities
>spam and win
and its just that easy
It's pretty fucking difficult. TW campaigns are usually garbage, but the Quest battles are hard as fuck, I have no idea how to fight most of them.
Plus it doesn't help that the AI is aggressive as fuck and surrounds you all the time.
Reminder that Grave Guard are a gift from god.
>>338913718
Vamps are correct choice.
I don't understand why this game gets a "Mixed" on Steam.
Fuck it's superb.
>>338920028
You can give minor settlements walls. As the other guy said, it's because the game ends up being siege battles galore.
>>338926395
By the same token, it made it possible for smaller garrisons to have a chance by forcing a bottleneck on the city streets. I've saved a city with only it's outnumbered garrison many times this way. However, same issue, you spend 8/10 fighting in cities, walls or no.
The dev post about sieges said they wanted to shift the focus away from street-to-street fighting and make it more about an epic battle to take/hold the walls. I see their point, often even if you did have a beefy garrison/defending army, it wasn't worth it to try to hold the giant wall circuit. The smart move was usually to barricade yourself in or near the town center because bottlenecks are such an advantage and it limits the usefulness of their missiles/artillery. At first I was annoyed that defense towers have unlimited range, but I'm starting to appreciate how it's forcing me to change my strategy. You either bring enough artillery to smash them quickly, or they're going to shoot you up good on the way in. You can't dawdle at a distance, you have to get in against the walls quick as you can. You also need a lot more siege towers if you expect to get a few of them against the walls.
>>338926267
Of course I do. Never leave home without at least one.
>>338926729
It's at Mostly Positive brah.
>>338926414
Only so many of them can fight him at once. Whatever unit is right on top of him. So you need to make sure whatever unit is close enough to actually engage with him is beefy and good at dealing damage. It probably also should be armor piercing, since heroes tend to have sturdy armor. They also have tons of HP, so if you've got a unit of regular swordsman or god forbid spearman, it's going to take forever for them to whittle him down.
This is what YOUR hero is for. You should try to have one hero/lord in your army who specializes in brawling and use him to murder the enemy hero/lord. OR bring specialized armor-piercing murder squads. Gunners are great for this.
I wish there was more actual lore in this game.
Like, I know there's tons of lore BEHIND the game, but I wish more of it would be readable or presented to me in the actual game.
Short summaries of what everything is and why this grassland is different from the previous ones would be nice.
As a fan of Total War yet not knowing much about Warhammer I feel as if the game expects me to just know a little too much.
>>338926626
Not sure m80, might be a bug. You sure your army isn't in the wrong stance or something?
>>338926729
It was because of the startup crashes on launch.
It's mostly been fixed now.
>>338926729
It's rated better now. Apparently a lot of people had day 1 launch problems.
>>338926834
>>338926971
>>338926984
Oh, it wasn't like that when I bought it, but there again I hadn't checked since.
Ignore my blatant retardation.
There's something about evil vs evil that gets my dick rock hard
Godspeed, mr skeltal
My computer can run shogun 2, will it run this?
Getting my ass kicked early greenskin campaign. Fuck dorf manlet fucking shit.
>>338927009
>mfw watching kholek 1v1 a lord of change amidst the clash of warriors
Kholeks a beast. Hes probably the killiest LL.
>>338927009
>Midnight aristocracy
>Evil
Nah, they're snooty aristocrats but they're pretty average by medieval standards (particularly in Warhammer)
>Be human settler living under a vampire count
>Doesn't ask for food as a tithe, only wants occasional blood donations
>Doesn't draft me into a war to be killed unless I'm already dead
>>338926729
Some are people shitposting about the difficulty and RNG (people who've never played a TW game before), others who are complaining about it being too 'simple' (TW purists) and others that there's not more races in the game (Tabletop fags). Legitimate complaints I guess, but you can't keep everyone happy. Like you, I think it's an amazing game
>>338927031
Can you run Rome 2 and/or Attila as well? It basically requires the same specs as those, despite having much worse graphics.
How high fps do you guys get during large battles?
And I mean large as in full custom battles where you and your opponent both have the max amount of units possible.
I'm considering upgrading my rig for this game alone.
>>338927124
Get yer big 'uns. Fuck using goblin shits in your army and get loads of dosh.
You might want to bully the other orcs to build up into a proper waaagh and send it after the dwarves
>>338927137
Don't forget about the other TW purists, the ones pissed they didn't get another historical title.
>>338927136
Your experience may vary. And under Mannfred or Kemmler shit would suck pretty hard.
I can't get the empire campaign to work out. I am able to get about two armies at full strength, assuming Orks don't roll over me or that one city state doesn't start capturing the city states I need. After that I'm out of luck, though, because I've got almost no cash, am making almost no cash, and everyone around me is pumping out cavalry while I can't even make halberdiers.
>>338927136
>Nagash's puppets
>not evil
>>338927124
Same. I'm probably going to have abandon it and start over because now I'm hovering around bankruptcy and they keep raping my armies with their significantly higher level lords and heroes. It's bullshit, their units are already tough enough to kill with the Orks fodder armies without tanky as fuck heroes that can singlehandedly take out half my army based on level advantage alone.
>>338927124
Go south, young man. Or southwest. Orcs have the advantage of starting near some corners. Back yourself into one, set up your domain, then come back and eat some manlets.
>>338923367
Do what >>338925820
said and just milk money from the chaos tribes until you have a pretty generous amount.
The chaos wastes will also give you bonus healing, so if you get fucked up by one of the tribes, you can retreat there and heal pretty quickly.
I also recommend rushing a tier 5 unit because Tzeentch obliterated me my first playthrough and having giants on the second playthrough made the fight less one-sided.
>Blood and Gore is DLC in a warhammer game
inb4 they give it away for free as a sign of goodwill after charging for it and getting away with it before.
I absolutely couldn't stand the feel of Rome 2, for whatever reason, but I liked most of the earlier TW games so I'm a bit curious about this.
Anyone else with the same opinion on R2 that can give some insight to how this compares?
>>338927367
What do the chaos giants do differently than regular giants.
I found it weird that giants are infantry killers in this game when they better suited hunting monsters/heroes on the tabletop
>>338927367
When will they learn?
>>338927437
What about the feel did you not like?
>First chaos quest is 4 settlements
>Then 8
>Now 14
Jesus christ, do I do anything with this faction story/quest than raze shit? I can't even leave the north and the norscan tribes because they're all fucks.
[rattle rattle]
>>338927437
Can you expand on what you mean by feel, anon? It's a hard question to answer without more information.
>>338927437
To me personally it feels more like a "classic" Total War game than Rome 2 and Attila did.
>>338927308
Grabbing up Marienburg early is a big help to Empire. Also focus on growth. Once you have Reikland in hand, consider putting down an extra growth building (once of the towns comes with one), then build the money in the second slot (tailors or whatever). Your early energies should be focused on Marienburg, before anybody else gets any ideas about attacking you. If they get into a scrap with Bretonnia, so much the better.
Also a useful tip: The basic infantry barracks line only goes to level 3, which means you can and should relocate it to a town, instead of your capitol. It can be fully upgraded there, freeing up another slot in the capitol for use. Same goes for the Reiksguard fort. Save the capitol for the higher-tier buildings and/or another money making building.
>>338927437
For me it's the most engaging and fun Total War since Medieval 1
>>338927612
Alright, thanks. Do formations have hotkeys? My game glitched and I can't select formations with my cursor any more.
>>338927308
What difficulty are you playing on?
On hard the Empire is ridiculously easy. Cavalry aint really a problem either, as other Empirelads only make the pistoliers, which are fast and annoying but do literally no damage.
>>338927437
Much more polished, more features cut, fantasy setting with more unit variety.
Pirate Attila, it's kinda the historic bridge to Rome 2 but more polished like Warhammer with less features cut.
>>338927506
I'm pretty sure they're just general missions to reward you as you expand. Actual quest quests are issued as you level up your Legendary Lord.
>>338927339
Not the poster you're replying to, but that's the trap I and probably everyone else fell into.
You go south, the obvious direction and then Thorgrim shows up with a doomstack.
I'm going to give them a second go after my Empire campaign but for Greenskins it seems like you need to blitz north and keep kicking the main Dwarf faction in the dick while you raise a second army to go south and deal with the much weaker tutorial greenskins.
Gotta also rush 17 units for them free armies.
Should I bother making alliances with people as the Empire?
In my last failed campaign all the little wars bogged me down, I feel like I should focus on conquering the other provinces.
>>338927391
They can't do that, kids would be able to download it without permission and they'd have to change the game's rating to M. They do it this way to keep it rated T.
>>338927449
I don't know.
If I took a random guess they have higher resistance to moral loss or more health.
But they may just be giants with chaos in their name.
Giants seem as good at killing monsters and heroes as they are at killing infantry. I think they just say infantry killers because they suck at fighting cavalry and ranged units.
>>338927367
Lol'ed.
>AI goblin big boss literally camping outside one of my cities and assassinating every single hero I produce from it
>>338927437
I know exactly what you mean. I too didnt like the feeling of Rome 2. Attila was better, but not by much. This feels alot more like their older games. Battles/units have much more weight to them. Unit collision is godly. I am extremely pleased. Best Total War since Shogun 2.
>>338927719
Before anyone jumps on me for it, I suggested pirating Attila because the guy seems on the fence about handing over money to CA. Attila is a great purchase in my opinion, but opinions do differ and pirate before buying is fine.
>>338927494
>>338927571
I never liked the combat that looked and felt like ass, with both the constant micro managing of power ups that would eventually devolve into mosh pits and cluster fucks. Also how the battles managed to look worse than its predeccessors, and awful art direction whenever you zoom out. A general array of the arbitrary rules on the campaign map and dumbing down of several aspects. Also it could never escape feeling completely soulless to me with the horrible voice acting, boring music, lack of proper cinematics etc. etc.
In short, I guess you can say I'm hoping the combat is more satisfying to control, with better art direction and hopefully just isn't rushed with some actual "heart", like say, Shogun 2.
I consider Attila to be the farthest they can go into the mainline of spears and shield combat and I couldn't see how it could get any better before it stopped resembling TW, I'm glad they've branched out to something new and I hope someday they return to a different era like musketry since they've basically perfected medieval combat
with that said it hurts that some of the good from Attila is gone, but the new territory makes up for it, just wish more units had actual abilities and formations to do rather than just lining, and also customizable lords but that's just a personal thing
>>338927738
Don't make too many, but yeah they're easy confederations once you've blobbed in the other half of the empire and gotten really rich(take marienburg).
>>338927449
Just checked, statistically identical.
How do you deal with marching armies that just try to stay away and raid towns, chasing them in march stance just means they can get the jump on you next turn. Why did they have to bring force march back
>>338927986
I'm really hoping we get a Total War Civil War or WWI game personally, Empire/Napoleon and Fall of the Samurai are by far my favorite TW games and I'd love to see what they could do with those settings.
>>338927437
Improvements: The UI is not an oversized mess. It does not conceal information from you; you can see the entire tech trees and you can see the entire hero upgrade trees.
Dubious, depends on person preference: campaign map management has been greatly simplified. Food buildings are useful only for growing your settlements; food is not needed to feed people, nor do those buildings provide an income. You use them to max out your settlements and once they are, you can just bulldoze them and replace them with something else. There is no sanitation. There is only public order, and two kinds of corruption that you can use buildings, heroes, or technologies to mitigate (but not eliminate, generally). Corruption will affect public order, may cause "rebellion" stacks to appear, and can actually cause attrition to your units in the field if it's bad enough. It is both even-driven and caused by buildings some factions can build.
Fights with minor settlements that have not built the 2nd tier defensive building take place only in the field. This greatly reduces the effectiveness of small garrisons, since you can't jam them up in narrow streets, but it is another attempt to reduce the preponderance of siege battles. Walled cities are both more potent, and more fragile; the wall is the the thing, and they're worth defending because it is a small section of wall rather than a huge circuit, and towers are very damaging and are always in range of the attackers in front of them. They/you cannot lurk out of range and pelt with artillery. You either need enough artillery to blast them down quickly, or you're going to take substantial losses to the towers. Towers can be upgraded to be even more lethal.
Battles are quick, that's where the game is trying to focus itself. They're generally over in less than 5 minutes, which can be good or bad depending on your tastes. The idea is more field battles, so it's probably good to end them fairly quickly.
>>338913996
it's late but, I have a 580 and can run it on high with 30fps or medium with 60fps with a little OC
>>338927136
>when you die your soul is trapped in your bones
>good
>>338925670
The vikings are permanent, archy and the "warriors of chaos" are like attila and just need to be ended a couple times
There will be a big event around turn 105 and then you just gotta stop em. Once theyre gone thhe vikings are wayyy more managable since they cant agent spam as much
>>338927691
I'm not sure, you should be able to check the key bindings. I always build my own formations and then ctrl-g the group to lock it in.
>>338913718
Why so many terrorgheists and no Varghulfs? You know Varghulfs have better stats and have a regen right?
>>338927853
Attila was a good game, the problem is that people constantly looked at it with 3 points off the 10 scale already because they were butthurt about Rome 2. TW:W is simply the best TW since Attila, because Attila is better than Shogun 2.
>>338928107
There's a hero that can slow army speeds by 50%.
I know Witch Hunter does it for Empire.
>>338927853
I guess I might give it a shot at some point from how you're describing it, although I'm still extremely vary after getting burned by R2 at launch. Also the whole "buy now, or you're going to have to pay for one of the main factions :^)" is classic CA bullshit that I can't stand.
>>338927136
>eating humans
>not evil
>>338927151
I never played those because I heard Rome 2 was shit. The Warhammer shit has me interested in this.
>>338913718
>tfw I found out I can play my 24€ RUS "region" locked key in western EU anyway
then agian, I'm glad I saved 36€ because the game sure as hell isn't worth 60.
also, fuck their "DLC" policy which consists of cutting out one of the 4 main factions and releasing them as extra content you have to pay for.in case somebod wondered why chaos DLC ony has about ~80mb in size, it consists of a few configs and sound files + the big intro video for the chaos campaign. the units and everything are literally in the game already
>>338927136
>NAGASH FUCKING SHITS
>NOT EVIL
GET OUT
>>338928547
wait, how anon tell me
>>338928107
You can try to ambush them or use a hero to stop the army or just chase them until thye fuck off
>>338927738
Pick your horses and back them, don't try to be friends with all the members of the Empire. In my experience the province immediately to your east (I forget the name, something with an A?) is generally inclined toward you, as is Talabecland to the northeast. Wiessenland to your south has both an inbuilt mistrust of you, and despite the "defensive" trait always seems to go on the offensive and swallow up the imperial provinces to his east (your southeast). You can try being his friend, but his dislike of the Emperor and bellicosity may make him a good choice for conquest.
It's important to remember that there is no Imperial politics system, nothing to be done with the Electors, no elections, nothing like the HRE politics of, say, a Europa Universalis. The other imperial provinces are for all intents and purposes rival kingdoms and should be seen as fair game for conquest. I'd advise going south or southwest first, since north is the direction doom comes from and it can be useful having a few layers of AI territories between you and them to blunt their thrust.
Bretonnia is another good place to subjugate, as it is relatively far from Chaos, does not get much attention from the Greenskins, no Vampires around to annoy you, and the Dwarves of the mountains between the Empire and Bretonnia are generally well disposed toward you can be counted on to remain neutral or even assist you.
>>338913718
I'm garbage at it. Also, I'm kind of irritated it has the time honored doomstack spawns out of nowhere.
Are lizardmen in?
>>338927136
>Defending bloodsuckers
Not even once.
>>338928510
Rome 2 was only shit for the first couple months until they fixed it, it's a great game now. And those are fairly significantly more demanding games to run than Shogun 2 so there's no way we can know if you can run Warhammer just based on that. I would say that if that's the upper limit of what you can play on your PC though, then no.
>>338928236
Terrorgheists are favoured because you can apply them instantly in any pocket of the fight. They also have frenzy.
>>338928776
>it's a great game now
I'm going to go ahead and tell you that this guy is a retard possessing exceedingly poor taste.
If you can run Shogun 2 without problems, you can run this. Not prettily mind you, but it will work.
any news on how moddable it is?
inb4 five years pass and someone makes a third age mod
>>338913910
My dawi brother!
The game is pretty good, but
Very few active abiilities on units compared to older TWs, magic is not an excuse
Simplified formations and shit
Campaigns are somehow not so interesting and town building and the rest of non-battle stuff feels like a chore
I\ve been playing Attila until recently and I have to say I enjoyed it more even though I love the WH setting
>>338929024
>killing some fat midget on a chair takes five thousand years
MANLETS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>338928884
He's absolutely right, on both counts. Rome 2 is a good, complete, fully functional game at this point with no issues. If you don't like the setting, fine, but that's subjective and literally as far as you can go with it. Additionally, Warhammer runs far worse than Shogun 2 and requires a more powerful PC despite being quite ugly and many steps back in regards to technical feats of previous games. Being able to run Shogun 2 is not a guarantee that you can run this. Being able to run Rome 2 and Attila however is.
>>338929142
>Very few active abiilities on units compared to older TWs
I rather have no abilties than tedious bullshit like Rome 2 had.
>>338929175
Remember your superiors beardless scum
>>338929142
I fucking hate not having shit like spear/pike walls and testudo. This game needs them, so I totally agree.
>>338913718
Im suprised they didnt adress AI and they are so far in the gengre, i mean on AI "dank economy" holding unreal stacks of armies with few provinces... In the begining its always hard but if you survive until midgame you will steamroll no matter on what dificulty since AIs dont work toghether and you will just kill them one by one.
FUCKING BRETON CAMPAIGN WHEN
I WANT TO CHARGE THE FUCK OUT OF EVERYTHING AND THEN BOW TO M'LADY AFTERWARDS
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>338929179
The game still suffers from poor optimization, frequent graphical and gameplay glitches, and crashes. I installed it to give it another shot for this game coming out, and it managed to crash three times in two hours of play.
You're literally full of shit.
>despite being quite ugly and many steps back in regards to technical feats of previous games
Nah, I don't agree. It looks pretty great, fits the style of warhammer, has distinct and attractive models, and doesn't suffer from Rome faces. The models are individually good, and each unit has variation within the army. It's better than Atilla and Rome 2 graphically, and it doesn't have those ugly filters either. Also my friend who can run Shogun 2 on Medium at 60, can run this at medium/low at 60, even on Huge army sizes.
What are Halberdiers good for?
>>338929342
>No wedge formation for cavalry
>No fire arrows for anything
I'm confused and upset. Pretty much my only complaint with the game.
>>338929494
Countering cavalry, charges and monsters.
>>338929142
The setting and unit variety in this is great, but yeah, far, far too many steps back in terms of removed features and regressive compromises that ultimately kill this game. Campaigns suck now, too streamlined yet ironically restricted and constrained and not very fun. Sieges suck now. No town battles. No matched combat. No unit abilities beyond hero units with magic. Could have been so much more but they really hurt the Total War side of the game badly.
BROTHER
>>338913718
HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE VARG AND SKAELING STACKS THAT JUST KEEP FUCKING COMING REEEE
>my General committed suicide when I wasn't looking
>entire ork army fled
>only one Hero remains
>have 6 units, they barely scratch him
>lose the battle
HE'S ONLY ONE MAN!
>>338926482
He might not skip leg day, but he's still on chaos juice so he's not natty.
>>338929609
>"matched combat ruined TW"
>CA removes it
>"We want it back"
>>338929609
As far as battles go, since I generally avoid TW campaigns like the plague, it's pretty obvious to me that the game is being meant to play like Real-Time Warhammer Tabletop rather than Total Warhammer.
My biggest problem with the game is some very odd balance changes (guns reload faster than crossbows but do less damage and have less range, the exact opposite of what guns should do) and the complete lack of defensive options. The AI is hyper-aggressive and holding out for an attack just doesn't work.
Can I run it guy from earlier senpai, here are my specs.
The only thing I dislike about this game is the shitty quotes during the loading screens. At best, they're average, at worst they're cringy, eye-roll inducing bullshit. It's the reason I don't want to play Chaos
The lack of town battles is really throwing me off, as it pretty much removes any advantage a garrison might have
Is it true that the defensive buildings give your towns walls? Their descriptions don't seem to mention anything like that
>>338930226
ambushes anon
>>338930454
I'm not 100% sure, but I think town battles only occur in provincial capitals. Defensive structures only provide additional garrison units.
>>338930298
I'm gonna say either on low to low/medium everything and not very stable. Had a 560 myself a couple of months ago and that thing really is starting to show its age buddy. Time to "upgrade" if you want to continue playing the latests.
>>338930454
>>338930549
if you max out the garrison chain you get walls and a bit larger garrison in the small towns.
Capitals get better towers and alot bigger garrison instead
>>338930752
Yeah I mostly play on console now so I can play with my friends, might have to get some new parts.
>>338930549
Yeah, i think that's correct.
Haven't got a defenise of attacking battle with a wall that wasn't the provincial capital. Kinda sucks, in ROME you could just turtle in your city and basically hold a single street against an entire army.
Man, that so much fun. Had centurions that basically held an entire streert from +1500 army. Had full gold chevrons by the end of it.
They really seem to have taken the fun out of turteling everything basically attack oriënted now.
I love warhammer stuff, and really thinking about getting this game. Can I get some sort of unbiased (lol) opinion on how good this game is? Or how many bugs/general issues there are.
Gotta be careful with my sheckles
>>338930897
Scratch that, building a "City Watch" in an empire settlement grants that city walls.
>>338930991
Have you played a Total War Game before or do you know the general idea? If not:
>You have an overworld map, similar to the Civ series where you build structures and units, research technologies and try to expand your empire
>You expand your empire by battling enemies, which takes place on an RTS battlefield. You use tactics + units to overcome enemies.
A very brief and shitty explanation, I'd suggest watching a review if you're new to the genre. Some people love the formula, others hate it completely.
If you have:
>Incredibly polished (for a CA title)
>Haven't encountered many bugs
>Few factions, but they're much more interesting than the copy/paste factions from R2/Atilla
>Overworld management streamlined dramatically, province system kept in from R2 + global recruitment (holy shit what a great idea)
>Chaos faction prevents you from endgame steamrolling
>AI marginally improved
I'm a shekelhoarder myself, but I don't regret dropping the money on this. A solid 8/10.
>>338930991
>Or how many bugs/general issues there are
Very few actually. I don't think I have ecountered any yet, but I assume there are at least some.
>>338930991
Buy if from kinguin or something, i got it for 42 europoor currency.
It's a good game, sieges feel dumbed down though. But i'm biased though, when i saw ma gryphs hit the orks and send them flying i was sold for life.
It's a total war game on par with the better ones. It isn't number 1, 'cause of the dumbed down siege mechnic but it just feels better, like they enjoyed making it.
*fearful rattling*
Are the battles even faster than Rome 2?
The one thing that I dislike more than any other change over the course of the series is how the length of battles has been decreasing. There's very few moments to stop and zoom in to watch unless I pause or use slow mo, which kind of sucks because it removes the sound effects of the battle.
>>338931505
I have this screen glitch bug. It appears when i start up the game and every piece of scenry just seems to "glitch" and shift a bit.
Tab - switching mysteriously solves it though.
>>338927367
You're a big guy
>>338931629
I'm running empire and small battles take me between 7 - 15 minutes and big ones can go to 20 - 25. It really depend on what difficulty you play and how many bloody riding missle troops the AI thinks is fun to annoy you with.
I once send two full squads off demis after a single unit of pistoliers simply because i wanted the annoying bastards dead.
>Dwarves, initial challenge easy
>WAAAAAHG after WAAAAAGH from the south rape my shit while vampiric and chaos influence grows steadly
>Allies are decimated
>Things come to a predictable end when my lone Slayer King walks to his doom against a greenskins army
I don't think any ammount of git gud is going to help me. Surprisingly though I'm doing somewhat ok with chaos now.
>>338931505
I've played Shogun 2 before, and I thought it was fun but kinda dragged on a little when every nation declared war on you near the end.
>>338931559
>>338931563
Wow, that's good to hear. Thanks guys, I'll probably grab it before the first weeks ends so I can get Chaos
>>338913718
>tfw want to play it but decided to wait until all dlcs are released so i can buy it all at once
Is there some point when Chaos and Norsca stop swarming you with Elite doomstacks or is it until you are dead.
>>338931629
Lord units make the game take forever. Enemies come back from routing more frequently, and enemy generals love to directly avoid direct combat to drag the fight out. Playing as dwarves pre-gyrocopters is truly suffering.
>>338931980
That being said you need to micromanage more than ever.
Defensive strategies suck, you must play aggressively.
I gave up on my Empire Campaign because Chaos wouldn't stop sending doom stacks in threes. I'd defend against the first 3 and they'd be back in 2 turns. Really annoying that you can't force them back to the North.
Other than that, I'm having a fun time. Downloaded the mod for giant unit sizes, and Vamps are fun.
Should I get into the tabletop game?
>>338932235
It's dead. Then built a statue on top of a space marine pissing on its grave.
>>338932235
Yes, definiteley, don't listen to >>338932368 though, he's a nostalgic autist. whfb was horrible and GW did a good thing killing it.
What you're looking for is Age of Sigmar, go to your nearest GW and you'll be introduced to it, it's pretty much like total warham but with more fun stuff, and it got rid of all the dumb rules and mechanics from whfb
>>338932235
Do you have a shitton of disposable income and free time
If you do, go for it.
>>338932235
Are you a masochist into financial domination?
Chaos is fucking broken
>Defending against Chaos
>Start on top of a hill
>Trees at bottom in deploy zone on opposite side of where my main army is
>Put three regiments of swordsman in the trees to flank once their forces clash with mine
>Enemy just so happens to fucking run 2 chariots into these woods
>2 chariot groups are able to massacre 3 swordsman regiments
Not to mention other bullshit like Chaos corruption being tough shit you pretty much can't do anything about except destroy all the Chaos that borders you. Even then they'll just move back in and colonize the fucking place in 5 turns anyway.
Seriously, fuck Chaos.
>Province of Nordland has been a pain in the ass for far too long
>Many skirmishes and raids, Never wanted peace
>Chaos appears, want peace & would be willing to confederate
fuck you Nordland shits you made your grave
Chaos killed me again. Seriously. I got pushed back into the Western provinces and they keep coming. All with full experience and top tier units.
>>338927124
I got my ass kicked s fair bit too.
The trick is to do as much damage as possible then retreat, both tactically and strategically.
Bait them with small armies, deploy near the edge and use hidden cavalry to draw out a few chasers. This ought to let you rape their unprotected siege engines, or even the chasers if you hide enough cavalry, while ensuring they can't blob you to annihilation.
Don't fight to the death, retreat when you've nailed them a bit
Whittle them down like this while raiding their towns to keep fightiness up, then hammer them with your biggest army.
With dwarfs, you have to just accept that unless you already they're going to do a lot of damage before you can put them down
>>338933979
Unless you have a big army*
Fucking phone
Can vampire count armies not be completely wiped out? I utterly destroyed everything on a map and they still ran away with plenty of units.
>>338932576
Weak b8
>>338932235
They killed off WHFB.
Autistic but legitimate question: If you replaced Atilla and his hun stacks with Archaon's doomstacks and Chaos corruption, would playing as the ERE be harder or easier?
I'll get it when dx12 patch is out
Same with Doom and Vulkan
First Total War for me here, why does it say Chaos is the hardest Initial starting campaign? I played a bit of both Empire and Chaos now and Chaos seems infinitely easier to get started.
>>338935025
I thought they rebooted it
>>338935234
Can't conquer actual land so you're pretty limited in replenishing outside of allied territory.
Aside from that I feel the same way.
>>338934249
VC have a passive ability that allows unit stacks to retain 1 or 2 units even after wiped out.
It's great if you have veterency on one of your elite units.
>Play VC, do really well, get owned by Chaos by turn 100
>Play orcs, have no idea what to do, get wiped by turn 10
>Play dwarfs, get fucked by Grimgor and a Waaagh 20 turns in.
Is this game challenging or am I just that bad?
Time for Empire, I guess.
>>338936331
I actually feel the same way
Dwarves I figured out, as they're very good if you play them defensively and also have amazing economies.
No idea what to do with Orcs though.
The diplomacy has been improved but enemy agents are fucking invincible. My llevel 13 struggles to assassinate level 1s. and nothing to upgrade to help it
>No more phalanx/shield wall.
>same problem in rome2 where units just clump up. A problem that was FIXED in rome2 .
WH40K is better.
>>338936748
I was thinking that.
It goes the other way too. If the enemy agent gets to at least level 10, he's fucking untouchable and you literally can't do anything against him.
I had a goblin big boss camp outside one of my cities assassinating literally every single hero that came out of it. A lot of it was very bad RNG on my part, but still...
How do you stop chaos then? Do you have to go north and raze all their settlements?
>>338913718
Wow you can have the unit where the scythe goes down AND the unit where the scythe goes up?
>>338936759
>phalanx/shield wall.
Not that pissed off tb h, they were far too overpowered
What's your favorite unit from the game?
Mines the Grave Guard. I love making entire armies of them.
>>338936331
Did you crank up the difficulty to very hard and then get surprised that you can't steamroll everything like you could in Attila after playing for hundreds of hours, even though these are your first days of a different game?
>>338937339
Cairn Wraith, they just tear everything up
>>338935037
>>338935037
ERE gets free money, so easier
>>338937339
Mortar so far
ffffffffffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhwwwwww KABLOOOOOOM
Am I the only one who keep restarting? I'm playing as the empire, if everything doesn't go right for me I re-start, also how do you get new units faster? I swear everyone else keep getting better units than I do
>>338937384
I actually played it oneasy
>>338937861
Then you're just bad.
Anyone else start with Balthasar? He's based as fuck
>>338937061
all my empire armies have a chaos champion or whatever following them harassing them. I spend 3k a turn failing to assassinate them its fucking amazing how often a 30-40% success chance can fail in a row.
I wish armies had a way of driving those cunts off.
>>338935646
In a sense.
But the new setting is like a retarded, drug-addled, gunless, copyright name filled version of 40k.
It's so far removed from WHFB that I wouldn't call it a reboot at all.
just sold out and bought the game, what can I expect if I've not played any total war after napoleon and not played warhammer after 6th ed?
>>338938071
i find the magic that does damage to other units in this game to be fucking pathetic
If I learned anything about TW from previous games it's that ranged units are cheap as fuck. Who has the best ranged units, Empire, Dwarves or Greenskin?
>>338938410
Dwarfs.
>>338938235
Agent spam.
You MUST have a general to lead an army.
No one wants to be your friend unless they're the same faction type as you.
Armies have movement stances.
No naval combat.
Flying units essentially cavalry that can no-clip everywhere.
Cities can be razed rather than just shot to hell.
Fighting different factions is very different.
>>338938410
Dorfs.
Favourite Wind of Magic? Qhaysh and Dhar fags need not reply.
can VCs not get any heroes until they have a tier 4 building?
>>338930298
Currently running it on an AMD Phenom II for CPU and GTX 550 Ti for GPU with 8GB RAM. It runs just fine on Medium for me, so barring the difference in memory, I think you're fine.
>>338938410
If you just want to do the standard ranged + brick wall of infantry strategy then dorfs.
Empire is about strategy/countering since you have so many options.
If you think you can just steamroll everyone then go Greenskins. They're the snowball faction, if things are going well early on you shit on everyone no matter what you build.
>Orcs (!) can have cities, but not chaos.
Seriously?
>>338917727
I'd like Abhorash to be a playable Legendary Lord.
End Times didn't give him neither a model, nor rules.
Always imagined that he'd make Blood Dragons go from Rare to Core.
>>338938860
Dorfs, Brets, and Empire are all perfectly willing to be buddies
>>338932235
Depends, do you live near a non-GW LFGS?
>Finally conquer all of the souther badlands area as the orcs
>Building my infrastructure and recruiting for my push north
>Suddenly two huge Norse armies attacking my southernmost cities
>Move south
>Two huge fucking veteran Dorf armies appear and start taking my northern cities
It's been brutal fighting them all off to keep my lands let alone expand further.
I miss mercenaries a lot
>>338939209
Cheers bruv
>>338923367
Don't listen to those other fags subjugating the tribes gives your enemies another pain in the ass and they DO expand and grow
>>338938241
Single-target stuff can reduce hero health to half or less
>>338939271
Seriously dude, you not used to Warhams?
>>338938860
I am in turn 150 as the Empire and nearly all dwarfs, undeads and humans are in one big alliance against Chaos
>>338939668
guess ill try that when i get on later, thanks
>>338924887
>Playing as Empire and 3 stack of these fucker start to invade south toward my land.
>Call in 2 ally Dwarf to hold them back while tying up loose end to the East.
>The 1 stack of dwarf single handedly annihilate the 3 stack of pussy marauder
Would drink with Dwarf Bro anyday of the week
Where the fuck are my Skaven?
>>338938860
>No one wants to be your friend unless they're the same faction type
There's a mod for that. Yeah I know, "muh lore", but in a game where you can literally smash down the Empire as the Dwarves I really don't think we should be sticking to lore. You can always make some fluffy reason to trade with the Vamps say as you pile Empire heads around your Karaks.
>>338939865
Expansion 2 probably
>>338939865
>skaven
>existing
lol
>>338940073
>>338939865
They are mentioned like every 20 turns as an message
>>338939865
Your rats are shit and no one wants to play as them.
>>338939865
Every
fucking
thread.
Just how dense are you cunts?
>>338940163
Really? Do tell, if that's the case they'll prolly be in the first expansion and that makes me happy
>>338913996
I have:
8gb R9 390X
i5 4690k @ 4.2ghz
16gb of 2100mhz RAM
running from a Raid card
In 4k
and I'm running buttersmooth 60 fps.
I don't see what your problem is :^)
My orc campaign on normal consists of Grimgor taking settlements and moving on then those settlements getting taken by dwarves/savage orcs then grimgor retaking them again and again.
Getting no where fast with it to be honest but having some fun learning how all the units work.
Wolf rider archers are very handy for harassing troops and making the enemy string their army out. If they ignore them they can be used to melee charge already engaged units to great effect.
>>338939865
I foresee Skaven and Elves being the next major expansion. They're polar opposites and in demand
>>338913718
Big tactical battles are fun, but is anyone else bored as fuck with the strategy layer?
>>338938241
Buffs and Debuffs are probably the best magic in the game atm.
>Holy grail knights charge my Halberds
>Only other unit nearby is my Wizard
>Buff Haberdashers
>Debuff Knights
>Mfw Bretonnia's best unit gets pub stomped by my trash unit in like fifteen seconds.
The Arachnarok is fucking amazing. This thing just tears through infantry.
>>338940394
There's a message something like. To signify low population
>Your streets are empty and everyones missing. The only evidence is a triangle marked on the walls
I want them also.
>>338940939
not to mention knights get fucked anyways charging any kind of polearm unit to the frontunless you're charging goblins ofcourse
I really don't know if I want to get this game.
How is the multiplayer?
>>338941493
>buying a TW for the multiplayer
>>338941612
ok thanks
>>338931869
>>Things come to a predictable end when my lone Slayer King walks to his doom against a greenskins army
You did you king good. You should be proud of the end you gave him. It's the proper way to go.
does anyone have any tips for increasing Orc growth?
I want to rush some good tiers out, but it's cutting me off at the knees
>>338938071
He is supreme.
>>338927841
>Lv 9 chaos fuck up my poor lv 3 witch hunter
> then proceed to camp outside the settlement and spawn kill.
This fucker would't die even when he have a dedicated ai Captain on his ass for 20 turn
Is Total War still unplayable without a SSD?
>>338939865
RAT-MEN GET OUT
REMOVE SKAVEN FROM LUSTRIAN CLAY
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>338942493
You mad about gettin BTFO and chased off the planet by ratmen in the end times?
>>338940969
Just look how cool this fucking thing is.
>>338942564
>end times
What a way to shit the bed.
I accidentally saved over my dwarf campaign and now I'm depressed.
I'm playing as Empire now and holy shit I want to slaughter all my neighbors. That Boris cunt from Middenland declared war on me with his army inside my borders, ransacked one of my towns and then sued for peace demanding I give him a huge sum of gold in exchange, all in the same turn.
Gonna burn that nigger's city down I tell you what.
>GMG's 20% voucher works on total warhammer
saved a whole 12 dollarydoos
>>338942847
>talking shit about Boris "Beastman Butcher" Todbringer
Don't you have some Bestigor dick to suck you turnskin heretic?
>>338913718
So is this game good or not? The steam reviews are in 75% now
>>338936551
Orcs sack and sack and sack.
Other greensking tribes are easily joined in confer´deration no matter how you treat them, if you're the alpha.
>>338943110
Nigger if I want some goats dead I'll call a farmer. Boris poked the beehive and now he's gonna get stung.
OUTTAH MAH WAY ORKI N GROBI SHITSS
arrer boyz and riderz are a fucker to catch and always withdrawing and harassing.
but Karak don't crack.
not greenskin shite gonna rout these beards.
>>338939059
Hysh. Buffs and that net is nice.
>Stack of Dwarfs chasing varg raiders for 10~ turns now
thanks dwarfs
>4 days until I get paid.
It's not really as fun as it looks, right? No reason to be hype? Surely nothing could be as fun as that looks.
>>338944461It's really good.
>>338942915
So does the 25% one.
>>338944545
Huh?
>>338931916
wait until steam sales
>play Empire
>all of my humie neighbors are shit save for Bretonnia
>all the dorfs are okay...until they start killing one another and I'm forced to side with someone
Is the voice acting any good?
It's always been one of the best things in Relic's WH40k games.
As someone who couldn't stand the campaign and feel of the combat in R2, but liked most of the other TWs, what are the chances I'll like this?
>>338944750
WATCH25 is the code.
>>338945314
>best things in Relic's WH40k games.
fucking kekk
40k is also seriously gay
>>338945478
yeah but that wasn't my question at all.
>>338945434
Says it's not applicable, I guess they reached the max amount of used vouchers?
>>338945314
Pretty great from what I've seen so far, Balthasar sounds like god.
>>338938241
What unit size do you play on? Magic does not scale based on unit size, large creature health does. This means magic is weak on ultra size and OP on small size.
I don't know if other stats are affected by this.
>>338945585
yeah its alright
>Trying the midnight aristocracy.
>Kemmler looks based as fuck.
>He only has literally half of Mannfred's skills
>No mount
>You lose out on quest cutscenes.
Well this made me sad.
Why is 1 of the 2 playable characters strictly better than the other?
That -15% raise cost is still based enough for me to play Kemmler though.
>>338943394
A pretty solid amount of the reviews are people saying they can't run the game, and the reason seems to be they need to update their graphics driver.
is there a way in game to view the framerate? I tried running fraps or osd, but neither actually work (i assume denuvo is fucking with them or something)
On a scale of Rome 2 to Shogun 2, where does this game lie?
>games runs fine
>unless I select an army or city, then it just freezes for 10 seconds
I miss city fights. No, I did not just sally forth, wtf?
>>338946563
There's a fucking Steam overlay setting for that.
>>338913718
i'm in a dwarf campaign and i would like to rally the clans without fighting them, how the confederation work exactly ? i have good relations with of the clans but none of them want to join even for a shit ton of money
>>338945314
Good enough to enjoy and get into it, but so far I haven't seen any Kyras tier performances
>>338947241
You need to be really strong. Build a big army, kill greenskins, and collect loot then they will want to join you.
You get a temporary debuff to public order and can't make more confederations after making one so be prepared (it's 8 turns before you can make a new confederation deal I think).
>>338913718
Probably the best Total War on release since Napoopan. Can't wait to see how it is in a couple months after it's been polished up as we know Creative Assembly is pretty good about that. It's also running really smooth at max settings compared to Attila and Shogun which still run lower FPS on max with GTX 980.
Playing Chaos is pretty unique as you'll have a "core" of heavy expensive units and then cannon fodder Marauders filling up the rest of your army. At least in the beginning that is. I've been throwing Archaon and Chaos Warriors into the center and then surrounding the ensuing mosh with Marauders for moral damage.
8.5/10 pretty good desu
>>338947421
okay
>>338913718
I like certain aspects of the game, but hate the fact you're more or less railroaded diplomatically all the time.
It's what I feared this game would be.
Will they make us pay for blood like with R2 ?
>>338947615
How so?
>>338947730
Yes
how to win as crypt lords? i captured east/west sylvania but don't know what to build. got double necro with mass skelly, just got vargheists on turn 15
>>338947974
>crypt lords
wtf... vampire counts*
>>338947846
Just for that, I regret I didn't wait for a crack, it fucking rustle my jimmies, these motherfuckers, serve me right
>>338927137
>Spent 300 euro's on figures and paints for the tabletop.
WHY WON'T THEY CATER TO THE WARHAMMER FANS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Does it achieve the same effect Dawn of War does so that I feel like I'm almost playing the wargame itself?
On another note, how many of you lads pausescum?
I'm getting completely dicked over during battles.
Unless I'm like 70>30 in favor, I lose. It's easier to just auto calculate the fights.
I'm about 100 turns into my Greenskins campaign and its literally just auto-resolving everything.
>>338948258
What's going wrong, anon?
>>338948239
only for the beginning of ambushes and seiges.
Its only fair
>>338948172
I think they have to in order to keep a T rating.
>>338948351
I dunno, just seems like any fight that's even I just end up losing. I was playing Vamps and fighting vamps, we had the same amount of units but he completely wrecked me.
>>338926313
i thought it was so you couldnt cheese the map game with trapping armies by splitting off some insignificant portion of your army.
Can this be any fun in multiplayer or is it solo only? I ask because it's my brother's birthday today and he doesn't know what the fuck he wants outside of a new graphics card.
>>338948645
Yeah, multiplayer is pretty solid. Don't expect much, but the co-op campaign and battles are fun. Finished about 10 games online and had a blast.
>>338927127
Depends theres a few modes including co-op campaign and Id say that you're gonna enjoy it together if you want to play it together.
>>338922343
I've found that your own kind are much more likely to become vassals. Greenskins are also all about confederating.
Do any of you guys wanna play together in a bit or vs?
My steam is id/Scivir
>>338948558
Details, anon.
Are you charging blobs directly into each other, hammer/anviling, etc?
Do your troops crumble too easily, or are they just getting massacred in combat?
>dark elves vs. high elves
>beastmen vs. wood elves
>skaven vs. lizardmen
>tomb kings and ogre kingdoms awkwardly forced in
I imagine beastmen are coming in in the last expansion at best. I just want to be a horde of furry rapists to fuck with all the hippy forest rapists.
>>338948989
I imagine Ogre armies being an absolute bastard to balance and manage properly
The dwarfs are going to eat them alive if they just stack slayers
>>338948172
They gave blood as free DLC in Shogun 2 IIRC
>>338948239
total war is way closer to fantasy 8th ed tabletop than DoW was to any edition of 40k
>>338917309
>980
>40fps
welp, there goes my 760.
>>338948317
that's every Total War game ever
after the first 10 turns you just auto resolve everything because the fights are way too repetitive
Who's the best hero?
>>338947846
Nobody like vamps or orcs because they're vamps and orcs. Go attack the successionists every game. Go attack chaos every game.
Look, I understand that's the point of the setting. But because factions like elves or chaos dwarfs aren't represented, diplomacy feels pointless. The people that like you will usually ally with you, and the people that hate you always will hate you.
There are no neutrals to court.
>>338949189
No they didn't.
>>338913718
fantasy fags never learn, wh40k>fantasy battleLiking the game so far, empire>all
>>338943925
Damn nigga that's a lot of Savage Orcs
>>338949305
Currently looks like Kholek for direct rape, and upgraded Azhag for versatility
>>338949294
Need to turn those difficulties up, it's not fun unless you have to fight it
>>338948989
We're getting 2 major stand-alone expansions, from what I hear. They're planning on having all 16 armies be in the game by the end (Kislev or Chaos Dwarfs is being number 16).
I'm guessing that:
1st expansion: Beastmen, Wood Elves, Chaos Dwarfs, Ogre Kingdoms, Tomb Kings
2nd expansion: Skaven, Lizardmen, High Elves, Dark Elves, Daemons of Chaos.
Why does chaos get 3 heroes to pick from? I'm guessing there will be more soon?
>>338949974
I wonder how much they'll charge us for them.
>>338931916
In the same boat but I dunno if I can hold out anon.
>>338950067
Full Price.
So they better have 5 factions each.
Game 1: 5 races
Total races: 5
Game 2: 5 races
Total races: 10
Game 3: 5 races
Total races: 15
1 freelc race
Total races: 16
Thoughts?
>>338950160
Each expansion will have 3 races.
Things that I didn't find out on the forums and found out at the Saturday Q&A were:
1. Dogs of War and Regiments of renown will not make an appearance and they're definitely not on the road map for the future.
2. The aim to cover every army that has an Army Book in 8th Edition.
3. Though the first game only cover the continent of The Old World, they will by the end of it all (after the third game's release) cover the entire Warhammer World (aka The Worlde).
4. Confirmed that all standard multiplayer game types (including co-op) from previous Total War games will be included (with the exception of naval combatof course).
Also a little bit of interesting information that I was told by one of the CA guys in the SEGA zone was that the older staff have thought Warhammer would've been great for a Total War game for years. Eventually SEGA got the licence, Games Workshop happened to agree with them at CA from the start and they got the go ahead. The older guys at CA had the idea of making a Warhammer themed Total War way back when Total War was relatively new franchise. This game has been on the cards unofficially for over a decade
>>338950242
Source?
>>338950219
FLC race is probably Bretonnia, as they already have campaign presence and a limited roster.
See >>338949974
for the rest.
>>338948752
>>338948839
Alright, thanks. I'll see if I have the money for two copies, if not I'll just get him Vermintide since I already have that and it's just $30.
>>338950032
Before the game even came out they announced heroes dlc, have you been paying attention at all?
>>338950525
>have you been paying attention at all?
I bought the game on a whim yesterday and have never played a total war game before.
>>338946657
Your hard drive is dying
>>338950408
>2. The aim to cover every army that has an Army Book in 8th Edition.
"8th Edition Legal" was the word used.
Several factions never got an actual rulebook during 8th.
>The entire world
What, that including all those Asian and African parts that the lore never cared about?
>>338950408
>This game has been on the cards unofficially for over a decade
Not surprising, but cool
>>338950606
>>338950032
Every faction is getting 1-2 more lords, except Chaos probably
>>338949974
Good split, send it to CA, they should do this.
I'm wlling to pay 180 bucks for base game + 2 exps.
>>338913718
Im thinking about asking a refund, i feel ripped off, its a resking of RTW2 map, they dumbed down battle mode, when you fight them only thing that matters is math and numbers, you cant pull of amazing victories when you are outnumbered anymore, something just doesnt feel right, and seriously i cant set formation of my units not even wedge on cavalry common!!!??
>CUSTOM battle
>Can't change funds
>CUSTOM
>BATTLE
>Can't play with an army of only Chaos Giants
>>338950646
I can confirm I read somewhere else, or maybe I heard it in a video. That someone announced something wrong and claimed it was all gonna be "the old world" when they meant Worlde.
I can't fucking remember where though. Maybe google can help.
>in all my years here i never saw a Mark of Chaos thread
i-it wasn't that bad guys
How in the shit do you deal with Chaos armies? Single chariots are tearing my men to shreds
>>338950408
I dunno how big I am on them covering the whole world if it's separate games. Is anybody really looking forward to playing Cathay/Nippon?
Maybe if it was like Empire where you had multiple maps and could move troops between them, but I'm kind ehhh on that.
>>338950751
>all for free
why
I would pay for this. What is Sega thinking?
>>338939424
closest games shop to me is an official GW store
>>338942847
Don't worry, they're the first on the block when Chaos starts being a jerk
is this game anything like civ?
>>338951224
Plenty more to pay for in the future, goyim
>>338949974
>16 armies
Damn nigger, that's pretty hype. Got a source on it?
>>338951140
Who wouldn't want to play as Cathay/Nippon?
>>338951224
They are going to have paid DLC too, probably more significant than anything in there. Like an actual race pack and mini-campaign ala FotS or Age of Charlemagne
>>338951083
I have fond memories of that game.
It was just kind of bland, though.
>>338951463
Use fucking google, it was announced months ago. where have you been?
>>338950964
This is the kind of thing that makes me hold off on buying another CA game on launch. Half of the shit they'll patch over the course of several months, the rest you have to depend on the modding community to fix after them since they apparently still haven't learned.
>>338947241
I mean giving them money for a confederation doesn't make any sense since they stop being a separate entity
>army of all chosen
>use autoresolve
>lose 15
>play the battle
>lose 200 or more
>>338913718
why are battlefields so flat hideous and empty?
even underground in dwarf mines the battlefields look like the emptiest parts of Ironforge blown up to x100 scale.
Battlefields have no detail, clutter, surrounding environment, or anything. just a couple pieces of 2d grass every 10 feet or so
I have launch day buyer's remorse. Typical CA. Yet I keep buying like a fool.
Nvidia cards run like shit, no SLI support, some weird CPU core issue, weird flickering.
It all adds up to awful performance. Game doesn't even look that good.
Tell me, have they fixed the goddamn art direction yet?
Rome 2 looked like AIDS when you zoomed out which was unbelievable when Shogun 2 generally managed to look great.
>>338951751
>being bad
keke
>>338951832
>i haven't played a single battle past the empire area
>better post on a basketweaving forum about it
>>338918751
why is that better than just controlling the city?
>>338951612
All I see is ambiguous DLC plans and "we hope all players will be satisfied". We all know they've got future plans, but I expected maybe 8 more races total if we're lucky, not 11 more. Certainly not fucking Chaos Dwarves.
>>338918202
For Empire after beating secessionist take Marienburg for its trade port. Build a Weaving house in every single city. That will get income for 3-4 stacks.
>>338951645
Yeah seriously i had to get mod to fix AI already, 6mb mode! Are devs so retarded that they cant program their own AI? Not to mention overpowerd Agent spam still causing havoc in these games...
>>338949974
I would honestly be surprised if the first expansion wasn't elves
>>338951860
>poorfag
lol
>bought AMD CPU
lol
>>338951891
>have vastly superior forces
>enemy always routes and runs away with 500+ men
>use autoresolve
>0 remaining
>use auto resolve
>lose 15
>dont use auto resolve
>enemy sits on hill with small force and artillery
>200+ losses
>not using autoresolve
>2016
>>338951939
The Empire area has loads of hills and forests, though
>>338951990
They obviously don't care that much about the details. If I was in their shoes I sure as hell would find it embarrassing if the community continually kept making mods within the first days of release that fix really vital shit.
So, can you play as the strigoi bloodline?
>>338951645
>>338951990
You can change funds, he's just retarded.
>>338952330
Sylvania only for now.
soon(tm)
>install agent mod that prevents hostile action
>breaks quests
>install agent mod that prevents hostile action only for AI
>ez mode activated
>>338952330
Wait for Dlc
>>338952498
damn shayme.
>>338913718
How many turns did it take you to capture castle Templehof?
>>338952716
I don't get why people refuse to adapt and decide to dumb down the game so they can win easily.
Losing is fun too.
Im enjoying it but....greenskins....
Greeenskins.....greeenskins everywhere...they just keep coming from the badlands... no matter how mutch i rape them they keep coming
>>338952781
You seem tobe a bookfag. How is the strigoi line?
Crusaders Kings 2 made me believe they/he are madly insane and aggressive, also looking monstruos. Is that accurate?
>>338952870
Losing isn't fun, but getting better is.
>>338952960
For each orc you beat a bunch more are born. That's the lore.
>>338952870
>AI assassinates all my heroes on first or second try
>AI assassinates all my lords on first try
>takes me over 10 turns to assassinate a single stack trying every turn
>>338953064
>I can only have fun if I win
tips fedora
sounds like "that kid"
>>338952781
>wanting to be a dirty goul fucking cannibal
>not being a glorius blood dragon knight searching for the greatest foes and drinking only the purest blood
>>338953206
Learn2play, there are counters.
Also could be just bad luck, deal with it. Its a non-issue.
Also don't waste resources trying to assasinate, this isn't shogun 2.
>>338949429
they literally did
go check out the steam page
it's free
>>338922632
>1 hour long battle
wtf most of my battles take 5-6 minutes
>>338953043
Not a bookfag, just enjoyed reading a lot in the Vampire Counts codex and so on.
The Strigoi is more monster than "man gone vampire".
>>338953387
Blood Dragons are awesome as well, hope they add them too, but I want my monstrous nighthunter.
>>338953662
That battle has only been going on for 3 and a half minutes, the battle time counts down not up
>>338953587
Are you pulling my leg, m8.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/201272/
>>338953043
Yes they got mad and degenerated, because the other vampires fought them in the past and caused the destruction of their empire. All the Strigoi had to hide in some dark crypts or other places where they lost their sanity and turned into Ghoul-like creatures.
They really hate other vampires and they can only controll Ghouls through necromancy.
>>338953587
>1,59 jewro
>>338953752
I hope Red Duke and Strigoi show up in the same dlc.
>>338927136
Vampire Counts are probably more evil than Chaos is
The "good" factions are Empire, Bretonnia, High/Wood Elves, Tomb Kangz, Dwarfs, and Lizardmen despite many of them acting like dicks
The "neutral" factions are Greenskins and Ogres. They do what they do because of a bestial instinct no evil or malice there
The "Bad" factions are Warriors of Chaos and Beastmen, they don't really know any better
The "super bad" factions are Daemons, Dark Elves, Skaven, and Vampires. Just evil for evil's sake.
>>338942915
>GMG
MIRROR30 for 30% off
>>338953890
>can only control ghouls
damn, them they won't be playable.
Maybe an event.
>>338939059
high magic or get the fuck out.
>>338954108
There is already an event for VCs about a Strigoi running around. It makes Ghouls cheaper and gives them aditional experience.
>>338954034
Dark elves are a mix of neutral and super bad.
There's all the slaanesh worship, but there's also just a lot of edgyness and "muh phoenix throne"
>>338954107
Alright, now I'm getting tempted.
>>338954034
Tomb kings are good guys? aren't they skeletons?
>>338927136
What about the ghouls roaming the land?
>>338954369
i think its an accidental pricing for mirror's edge
They might shut it down soon
>>338954437
TK are actually pretty chill dudes
>>338954324
CA knows its lore, I like it.
>>338954437
>>338954034
How did I miss that. Tomb kings are literally world endingly evil when nagash is around, when he isn't they're just bad.
>>338954369
>>338954531
yeah it is. it works for all games actually. somebody dun goofed at gmg
WE
>>338954610
Tomb Kings are opposed to Nagash. Nagash has his own army of undead and manipulates/controls Vampires. Save Arkhan the Black none of the Tomb King lords side with Nagash.
>>338954575
Explain why they are depicted in such a warmonging manner in the arty images then.
>>338954716
They don't get much choice, there's maybe 2 people in the entire world who are capable of saying no to Nagash.
>>338954610
Except Nagash was only around at the same time as the Tomb Kings when the world was literally ending
The rest of the time they just hang out in not-Egypt
>be dwarf
>almost wipe out vampires
>vamps keep offering gold for peace
>vassal or die
>>338954108
Strigori can't only control ghouls. Though Ghouls and Crypt Horrors are their preference.
Though bestial they're capable of necromancy and can raise skeleton warriors, wraiths, terrorgheists, and every kind of Vampire Monster.
>>338954754
Because it's still Warhammer and even the most chill dudes are still dicks
>>338954780
The Tomb Kings pretty much rally around Settra who hates Nagash with a passion
So this Nagash is the ultimate form of undead, like Archaon for Chaos?
>>338954531
>>338954676
Oh shit, it works. Go buy some vidya now while it lasts, lads.
This is VERY important
I need a good battle theme for Chaos, anyone have anything?
>>338954987
And the only reason Settra sat around not conquering shit is becuase he was like "we're too weak, we have plenty of time to build up to take over the world"
I honestly can't wait for the DLC and expansions. This is the only game where I want more.
>>338955021
He's the progenitor of all intelligent undead and necromancy, but he died for real a long time ago and only comes back for End Times
>>338955021
Nagash is the big bad of WHFB and a bigger threat than Chaos. He's their version of Sauron.
>>338955021
More or less yes. He was the first human necromancer and reached god-like power.
He is one of the strongest beings in the material plane.
>>338939865
Play league of legends until DLC
>>338955021
Chaos are like a second tier power in Fantasy really, the lords of change aren't like in 40k the top dogs of magic. As far as magic goes chaos might even be a third rate power really.
The top dogs of magic in fantasy are the slann, Teclis and Nagash. And there's a pretty huge gap between them and the next most powerful things out there.
>>338952960
you gotta go on the offensive little dawi.
>>338953875
>>338953917
Price is listed as N/A from the main game's page. Thought it was free.
Should I read lexica something or warhammer wiki? I wanna know more.
Like how did Nagash die if he was so strong.
>>338955660
The mountain of warpstone he was sat on to aquire godlike power exploded.
>>338955207
Please respond, I need good battle music that isn't shitty youtube mixes that just spam drums like fucking morons
>>338955660
Skavens
its always Skavens
>>338955767
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gSJW3sHXE
>>338955660
A fuckton of things happened. All Nehekaran kingdoms allied and marched to kick his ass, while the Skaven looted his magical shit and IIrc dwarfs and Sigmar were somehow involved to. I don't really remember what exactly happened. Better look at the wiki.
Long time TW player here, I kinda lost interest in the series after pre-ordering Rome 2 and getting that pile of shit.
How are you guys liking this one?
>>338926494
I have the same card but with a weaker cpu.. I can get to 40 fps at high-ultra but drops to around 20fps from time to time. Didn't try on low yet.
>>338955953
The main problem is that I think it's changed over the years, if the wiki is to be believed it was an assassin, I remember it being the warpstone exploding.
>Dwarves initial challenge: easy
>get fucked in the ass 20 turns in
easy my ass
>>338955660
Sigmar bonked him in the noggin with the hammer
>>338955979
Its good, do this:
>>338955178
>>338955495
I wonder how they will do with Skaven, doesn't Skaven live bellow the empire towns and cities? How will that work?
>>338955979
They dumbed down every element of the game that matters to appeal to the masses of simpletons who cant understand strategy AI is dumb still stacking impossible arimes without any economical coverage and spams you with agents like there is no tommorow, if you are not diehard Warrhammer nerd and you are interested in Total War i suggest you to pass it or wait for sales.
>>338952870
I had a great time when my Orc raiders got caught out by a dwarf stack.
I wasn't fighting to win, just to maul them as much as I could, allowing Azhag to slap the shit out of them with barely a loss
>>338956069
I don't think it changed, he just died multiple times. The first time was the warpstone, though
>>338956069
I remember it as him being punched in the face with a warpstone sword.
>>338952334
>links to forums and reddit
So is this thread also proof that there will be 16 armies?
>>338953538
"broken mechanics arent actually broken; just git gud!"
