How's everyone enjoying TWW so far? Vamps are pretty fun.
Underground battles against urki and grobi are the comfiest
So how badly does it run?
I tried to play Attila but got under 30 fps with a gtx970.
>>338913996
Probably wont be able to run it if you can't run Attila. I have a new comp, and have had no issues/bugs yet.
Just sort of finished my first campaign with greenskins, only sort of because I was at the point where the only remaining act was to go through the betrayal event and I was rolling around with 4 doomstacks full of orcs, trolls, night goblin archers and 3-6 monsters (Azhag stack was just him, 5 night goblin archers, a night goblin shaman, 7 units of black orcs, 3 giants, and 3 Arachnoroks)
Had something like 40k gold in reserves and was making 2k a turn because I had something like 30 settlements and outside of 2 core unit producers they all had a boss tent and a cave of money generation
>>338913996
On a 6950 and my only problem so far has been slowish load times and that's just because my SSD is being slow on online delivery.
>>338913996
>>338914351
Game is now 64bit and has had "some" optimization to offload some cpu work onto the gpu, so in most cases it should run better than Attila. That said this is one of the few games that AMD had more hand in development than Nvidia, and for most people it shows. With a 7970 I get about the same performance as I did with Attila, this time though I'm running pretty much everything on ultra compared to the next step down with that game.
>>338913718
I've been having fun, haven't made any progress, just been messing around with different factions
Runs considerably well, especially since my processor is so bad.
It's a shame so many people shitpost about it, however, I've noticed that it only really occurs during the day. Normally at night time there's good WH threads
>>338915517
well, what campaigns did you play anon?
What does this mean?
>>338916093
I've tried dwarfs and vampires so far
I'm not sure which I enjoy more than the other since my microing and General "battle mechanics" aren't very good
I put all my infantry on my front line, with the ranged units behind and I then proceed to use my flank units to run into the side of my enemies
Most of the time half of the enemy army gets away since I don't know where to position my soldiers
I tried 5 turns of chaos and did horribly
>>338916682
It means he has 16 units in there but you aren't in range to see what they are
>>338916682
it's just showing you how many units there are, but not what they are
>>338916682
It means someone managed his province very badly and now a stack of very angry dudes of unknown army composition spawned to fuck him up.
>>338913718
My GOTY thus far. Vampire Cunt Master Race.
>>338913996
Much better for me.
>>338916763
chaos plays differently than the other factions.
>>338916789
I was referring toAborash, I know it isn't the right spelling
Doing Carstein in a coop campaign, having fun.
Just did a failed Dorf run. He wants to do Emp & Dorf next bro-op.
Trying to figure out what faction to attempt next.
>>338913996
I'm running it at 60 fps with a gtx 760 on high settings
>>338917065
Chaos is supposed to be the hardest, try doing a campaign with the LL mod so you can both run chaos.
>>338917065
>tfw all of your friends play mobas
>"that game looks boring"
>>338913996
I have a 980 (not a TI either) and I get 40+- fps in the largest battles I can make when shit hits the fan.
I toned down most of the environmental settings to medium though, as to allow keeping shadows on and units all on ultra.
To me it's more important to see the unit detail than it is to see pretty grass.
>>338913718
Does anyone else not like the majority of the Quest battles? Most of them follow the exact same formula; "Go up against enemies you're slightly over-matched for and then fight off reinforcements" over and over
>>338917228
Did he update it to support chaos? Last I looked the Chaos lords weren't supported
>>338917228
Interesting idea. Will toss that at him next session.
>>338917303
I'm glad we've moved on from the MOBA phase like 4 years ago. Though he and I have been bro-oping since Shogun 2. I used to prefer sharing troops but he sucks with my monsters and hasn't gotten used to spells yet, so it starts to piss me off.
Is there a SLI profile up yet for nvidia? I wish I hadn't fallen for the "two GPUs meme".
Is chaos working as intended? It just seems added in last minute without planning.
How do I gain a better income with chaos
>>338917502
probably
even if they werent playable im pretty sure we would still have the annoying horde raider blobs
>>338913996
Game runs awesome for me, I am using shitty stuff too. Only dips when playing huge battles, which is around 40~45 then it goes up back to 60+ at 1920x1080, settings are a mix of high-ultra. My specs are FX6350(stock)/R9 390 with 16gb ddr3@2133mhz
>Playing as Vamps
>No one wants to trade
>Fuck them up in wars
>They'd rather die than be my vassal
Why does no one like me :(
>>338916682
>Abhorash
Blood Dragons when?
>>338917398
No idea, haven't even tried co-op yet, that would be pretty shitty though because it seems the most obvious to run with.
>>338917502
I skipped Attila but this seems to be pretty close to the same mechanic. Instead of realm divide or civil war you get some nomadic razing fuck heads that get buffed unit spam.
>>338917727
I'm hoping its the vamps next LL and blood dragons get a unit, fuck Krell and the people who want him.
>>338917502
They were always going to be in even if they weren't playable.
>>338917815
I meant as a playable race. It's impossible to get cash cause everything is razed. But seems like everyone I raid someplace or sack a town, it's just delaying my eventual bankruptcy. That and the fact that if you have two stacks next to each other they rape each other makes it seem like more of a fun run then an actual playable campaign
How does I economy in this game?
>>338918015
Oh right, yea there needs to be some patching going on. I appreciated awakening some north folk to the cause to find out, you can't trade with them.
With the financial troubles and stupid as shit growth rates, I'm holding off on them until some info gets tossed out. They should have let the review copy peoples have a go at them for testing purposes. Hindsight and such.
>>338918048
wut faction?
>>338918202
Empire, Counts and Dwarfs
>>338918387
Drakenhof is a gold mine (literally). Use a slot in it for the gold mine building, what ever it's called. For Dwarfs, gold mines to the northeast and south of the Silver Road, do the same. Haven't fucked enough with the Empire to help there.
>>338918048
>>338918387
For Dwarves, there is an Orc city called something Black Mines to the south. Just keep sacking that every few turns because they don't build up an army to fend you off.
>>338917725
cuz you are a fag
>be dwarfs while bro plays vamps
>expand my land, take over some ork settlements
>army too big and settlements not paying enough / didn't focus on economy at all to fund my army
>bro has a gold mine so he shovels money my way
>had notifications about a waaagh forming, didn't care because it was in the south
>waaagh is now at my door step and took all my settlements
>only my capitol is left with 18 units
>holding off invasions
>bulk of the waaagh heads further north as more ork clans make their way into my territory
>my capitol is now a shield that breaks the ork horde
>they other siege me or head further north
>on the map I'm just a yellow blip among a sea of green
This is it lads, my days are numbered
>>338919615
>ever letting orks build waaaghs
you fucked up big time
I played Vamps as a test run, up till about turn 150, but I'd already made so many mistakes, not knowing what I should do with tech and hero upgrades, that it was pretty shit.
Restarted with Dwarfs last night, shit is so cash money, going to make the most badass firing lines of thunderers and canons the Greenskins have ever seen
had to restart on easy because i was getting fucked on normal, that was something new. also why WHY did they leave out siege battles for smaller settlements? that makes the game feel like some kind of facebook total war clone
which one is the shooty faction?
>>338920037
Dwarfs
infantry specialises in bracing for charges, and ranged units are great
How's the faction variety?
My biggest concern with games based on lore is that there's not enough factions to fight.
Vampire Counts here, turn 160 and managed to defeat Chaos. Things are getting pretty comfy except for:
>Receive a quest to get Armour of Templhof
>"wow this is exciting i wonder where it is"
>quest marker is all the way down in the badlands
how the fuck am i supposed to get there CA
>>338920145
The factions are all totally opposite to one another, if that's what you mean. It's basically the opposite of a game like Shogun 2, where everyone has the same units with slight stat differences.
Within factions, there's also quite a lot of variety, at least for some. Vamp tech is split into 4 sections, with 3 dedicated to each unit type - skellies/zombies, crypt monsters, and beasts. You can min-max to the extreme with Vamps and have superpowered, incredibly cheap hordes of zombies and skeletons, armies based around maximising the other unit types, or of course play more evenly and have a balanced army.
Won't even start for me.
I don't know what else I expected from CA.
>>338920469
burn everything as you go
>>338920469
Use the "teleport to quest" option it gives you, perhaps?
>>338921064
Holy fuck I had no idea you could do that, thanks anon
>>338918387
As Dwarfs, get an army to take Mount Gunbad as early as possible and build a gold mine. You're now pretty much set for the entire campaign.
>>338921238
What about the Empire?
>>338920553
What's the problem exactly?
>>338921413
Haven't played them yet.
>>338913718
I was going to buy it but it looks just like a mod for Shogun 2
>>338921967(You)
It's realply, really fun.
>tfw you fuck Sigvald up
Bretonnia is fun to play, can't wait for their freelc.
>>338921967
Nice b8
>>338913996
I'm running it on ultra with stable 50+fps on a radeon r9 270x.
Some people with nvidia cards have reported poor performance though.
>>338919841
They started far in the south, I was powerless.
>>338917725
Empire has an "Aversion" malus to Vamps, it's like a permanent -40. If you've just gotten done kicking their shit in, your relations with them is gonna be abysmal. Unfortunately they've never really figured out how to make the AI reasonable about surrendering when death is certain; then again, sometimes people DO prefer death to subjugation, particularly to filthy Undead who intend to use you as cattle.
That being said, I was surprised while besieging Templehof as the vampires; they were surrounded, but still had a strong garrison that would take a while to reduce or cost me a lot of fodder to clean out. After only a turn of siege, they offered a peace treaty and to become my vassals. That very, very seldom happens in TW games, so it gives me hope. However they are obviously more inclined to my overlordship than the worshippers of Sigmar would be.
Paid 60$ for it. Usually buy off gray market but I bought Steam so I could refund if performance was shitty, might refund and buy a key to save 20$ but eh.Have to say I'm happy that it finally runs how it should. Rome 2 runs like shit on my i5 2500k and gtx 970
Tfw no legendary harem of boipussy
>>338918547
Empire has insane growth, and a meaty little cash cow to the northwest called Marienburg who are rightful Empire clay and should be brought to heel immediately. Both the capitol and it's town produce trade resources, cinnabar and salt respectively. That should give you the shot in the arm you need to start; tailoring workshops do the rest.
Just won a vamp match, time to try dwarfs.
Thinking about getting this but is it ok or awesome?
I ask because I got Rome 2 and it sucked ass and looked very plain.
Then I get Attila and it ran like ass and the infinite armies of the Huns was really gay.
>>338921064
holy shit i never knew you could do that
>>338919615
I found the best way to blunt the Orcish hordes early on is to attack and RAZE the orcish settlements immediately to your south. There should be 3 of them without walls in relatively easy reach. Sack them for loot, raze them next turn. This, in my game at least, put them on the back foot and they turned south to unify the badlands hordes. It also allowed my hill dwarf cousins to the southwest (I forget the name, purple faction) to make some inroads, as well as the Border Princes. By the time the Orcs were able to get some steam up again, I had wiped them out of the northern mountains and fused with my neighbor to the north. 3 provinces and plenty of dosh to deal with them.
>>338922569
its good but if you didnt like other total war games you wont like this
How in the unholy fuck do I start out as Chaos? Aside from the first norscan settlements, the dwarfs and Kislev around me are rampaging around with full stacks of shit.
>>338913718
my economy is stunted as ffuck
>>338917889
But what if we want Krell and Blood Dragons? And would settle for having the latter first just to get a vampire lord that's not fucking Mannfred "I'm a whiny bitch" Von Carstein?
>Get quest to raise new army
>Can barely support 2
Why me get shit quest men?
>>338913718
>Chaos
>Kislev is gone by turn ten and by turn 40 I'm hiding from the fucking horseman doomstacks made by the fuckers with the boat as their emblem
Okay. Someone needs to unfuck this. I just had two armies of Chaos soldiers get wiped out by four armies of horsemen.
>>338923642
you only have to recruit a lord to fulfill this
>>338924060
SKAELING
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How do you go underground with dwarfs?
As Empire, how can i beat those two chaos factions from the north? They send army after army but when I went to their settlements in not-Scandinavia , I couldn't attack them.
>>338924985
I'm having trouble beating them as Chaos.
So far, I found crying is the best option.
>fighting against chaos with dorfs
>snowniggers chucking spears at my gyrocopters
kek
>>338924939
army stance
>>338913996
Also 970, running smooth on ultra
>>338925168
Take a screenshot of yer settings, comrade
>>338924985
>>338925050
If you're having trouble with invading the Chaos wastes, remember that by using only half of your movement points, you can change to encampment stance, and this negates attrition. It makes it a slow business, but you can slowly camp-hop your way through their lands with doom stacks and purge the place with Sigmar's cleansing fire. Or the fanaticism of your choice.
This also works in Vampire territory and makes that mess a lot more manageable. It's a great mechanic for them, as their lands are compact and easily overrun, so attackers either have to slow down, giving you time to react, or take losses from all the ghoulies lurking in the trees along the route of march.
There is a bar on the UI that will tell you how much movement points a move you are contemplating will take, just right click but don't release until the bar is at least half full still.
Also 970, no probs with attila.
I haven't played much, though.
>>338917505
You don't
You're always going to operating at a loss so just make sure to keep sacking cities and don't ever lose or its game over.
>>338925357
Nice tip, but is there a way to destroy then for good? Like I said, I can't attack their settlements at the coast.
>>338923367
Go fuck up the northern chaos tribes and DONT show mercy. You'll only end up having to fight those cunts again if you let them live.
ok I need help, how do i move a unit out of a army. I clicked the unit card. Then right click ground, yet the whole army still moves out????
Man this game looks fun but I never played something so complex before
I gave up on civ iv
>>338924060
>what are spears?
>>338926079
Your armies have to be led by a lord.
>>338926079
Are you baiting or retarded? I'm curious.
>>338926079
Can't, units have to have a commander present.
Only way to exchange units is to select one army and right click on another to swap dudes
>>338925357
Quality post anon, thanks for the advice.
>>338926079
You can't move individual units, only trade them between armies. Only hero units can move on their own.
>>338925670
desu I haven't ventured up there yet, but I've seen other people talking about it
Are you attempting to attack from the sea? I'm not sure you can even do that in this one. Land on the coast somewhere and approach the settlement from the landward side?
no crack, no discussion
its like you are new to /v/
>>338926146
You misunderstand me.
I am Chaos, and their horsemen are the same I have, they're missile cav.
Only while I have 3-4 per army, they have 15, and there is only so much chasing I can do.
>not having two of these fuckers in every army
Explain yourself
>>338925331
At work sorry m8
>>338926158
To be fair if he hasn't played a TW title in a while you can understand his confusion.
As of ... Rome 2? Armies MUST be led by a general/lord. So the best you can do with individual units is trade them between generals. It's a little annoying, but the idea was to make battles better because units will all be concentrated in the relatively few generals/lords you can have, and thus bigger. Rather than fighting lots of little stacks led by a captain that you can squash.
>>338920028
Because every total war game just ends up being siege battles one after the other.
>>338926267
*rattles explanation*
>>338917725
You can make goblins vassels
>1,500 of my units vs ONE GODDAMN HERO
>Takes 11 MINUTES to kill him even with the game sped up >>>
Was that a fucking bug or something? What the fuck was that
>>338926151
so Like this? I'm sorry the last total war I played was empire.
>>338926313
yeah haven't played any of the new ones, the ui is fucking horrible to use, but fun game
How the hell am I supposed to take down Archaon if he runs across the Old World like a Jamaican?
It doesn't help that I'm VC and have to chase him through uncorrupted land.
>>338926124
Dude, it's not that complicated. Give one of the older Total War games a shot - this one is practically the same.
>>338926430
Why do you think he was the Everchosen?
It was for his legs.
>>338913996
Got a 280x and an i5 4570 and game runs like shit, really dissapointed. 30 FPS tops on all settings except Low with 40-50. OS is Win7. Does anyone have the same setup?
>>338924060
>Autobattling
>>338926256
adapt your army by buying a shitton of chaos hounds, If you're good at meta you can try and trap the cav, or just leave them to chase them around the map while you steamroll their leader.
>>338926194
Yeah, I attacked them from the land not by sea.
>>338926414
>Get a hero with hero nerf abilities
>spam and win
and its just that easy
It's pretty fucking difficult. TW campaigns are usually garbage, but the Quest battles are hard as fuck, I have no idea how to fight most of them.
Plus it doesn't help that the AI is aggressive as fuck and surrounds you all the time.
Reminder that Grave Guard are a gift from god.
>>338913718
Vamps are correct choice.
I don't understand why this game gets a "Mixed" on Steam.
Fuck it's superb.
>>338920028
You can give minor settlements walls. As the other guy said, it's because the game ends up being siege battles galore.
>>338926395
By the same token, it made it possible for smaller garrisons to have a chance by forcing a bottleneck on the city streets. I've saved a city with only it's outnumbered garrison many times this way. However, same issue, you spend 8/10 fighting in cities, walls or no.
The dev post about sieges said they wanted to shift the focus away from street-to-street fighting and make it more about an epic battle to take/hold the walls. I see their point, often even if you did have a beefy garrison/defending army, it wasn't worth it to try to hold the giant wall circuit. The smart move was usually to barricade yourself in or near the town center because bottlenecks are such an advantage and it limits the usefulness of their missiles/artillery. At first I was annoyed that defense towers have unlimited range, but I'm starting to appreciate how it's forcing me to change my strategy. You either bring enough artillery to smash them quickly, or they're going to shoot you up good on the way in. You can't dawdle at a distance, you have to get in against the walls quick as you can. You also need a lot more siege towers if you expect to get a few of them against the walls.
>>338926267
Of course I do. Never leave home without at least one.
>>338926729
It's at Mostly Positive brah.
>>338926414
Only so many of them can fight him at once. Whatever unit is right on top of him. So you need to make sure whatever unit is close enough to actually engage with him is beefy and good at dealing damage. It probably also should be armor piercing, since heroes tend to have sturdy armor. They also have tons of HP, so if you've got a unit of regular swordsman or god forbid spearman, it's going to take forever for them to whittle him down.
This is what YOUR hero is for. You should try to have one hero/lord in your army who specializes in brawling and use him to murder the enemy hero/lord. OR bring specialized armor-piercing murder squads. Gunners are great for this.
I wish there was more actual lore in this game.
Like, I know there's tons of lore BEHIND the game, but I wish more of it would be readable or presented to me in the actual game.
Short summaries of what everything is and why this grassland is different from the previous ones would be nice.
As a fan of Total War yet not knowing much about Warhammer I feel as if the game expects me to just know a little too much.
>>338926626
Not sure m80, might be a bug. You sure your army isn't in the wrong stance or something?
>>338926729
It was because of the startup crashes on launch.
It's mostly been fixed now.
>>338926729
It's rated better now. Apparently a lot of people had day 1 launch problems.
>>338926834
>>338926971
>>338926984
Oh, it wasn't like that when I bought it, but there again I hadn't checked since.
Ignore my blatant retardation.
There's something about evil vs evil that gets my dick rock hard
Godspeed, mr skeltal
My computer can run shogun 2, will it run this?
Getting my ass kicked early greenskin campaign. Fuck dorf manlet fucking shit.
>>338927009
>mfw watching kholek 1v1 a lord of change amidst the clash of warriors
Kholeks a beast. Hes probably the killiest LL.
>>338927009
>Midnight aristocracy
>Evil
Nah, they're snooty aristocrats but they're pretty average by medieval standards (particularly in Warhammer)
>Be human settler living under a vampire count
>Doesn't ask for food as a tithe, only wants occasional blood donations
>Doesn't draft me into a war to be killed unless I'm already dead
>>338926729
Some are people shitposting about the difficulty and RNG (people who've never played a TW game before), others who are complaining about it being too 'simple' (TW purists) and others that there's not more races in the game (Tabletop fags). Legitimate complaints I guess, but you can't keep everyone happy. Like you, I think it's an amazing game
>>338927031
Can you run Rome 2 and/or Attila as well? It basically requires the same specs as those, despite having much worse graphics.
How high fps do you guys get during large battles?
And I mean large as in full custom battles where you and your opponent both have the max amount of units possible.
I'm considering upgrading my rig for this game alone.
>>338927124
Get yer big 'uns. Fuck using goblin shits in your army and get loads of dosh.
You might want to bully the other orcs to build up into a proper waaagh and send it after the dwarves
>>338927137
Don't forget about the other TW purists, the ones pissed they didn't get another historical title.
>>338927136
Your experience may vary. And under Mannfred or Kemmler shit would suck pretty hard.
I can't get the empire campaign to work out. I am able to get about two armies at full strength, assuming Orks don't roll over me or that one city state doesn't start capturing the city states I need. After that I'm out of luck, though, because I've got almost no cash, am making almost no cash, and everyone around me is pumping out cavalry while I can't even make halberdiers.
>>338927136
>Nagash's puppets
>not evil
>>338927124
Same. I'm probably going to have abandon it and start over because now I'm hovering around bankruptcy and they keep raping my armies with their significantly higher level lords and heroes. It's bullshit, their units are already tough enough to kill with the Orks fodder armies without tanky as fuck heroes that can singlehandedly take out half my army based on level advantage alone.
>>338927124
Go south, young man. Or southwest. Orcs have the advantage of starting near some corners. Back yourself into one, set up your domain, then come back and eat some manlets.
>>338923367
Do what >>338925820
said and just milk money from the chaos tribes until you have a pretty generous amount.
The chaos wastes will also give you bonus healing, so if you get fucked up by one of the tribes, you can retreat there and heal pretty quickly.
I also recommend rushing a tier 5 unit because Tzeentch obliterated me my first playthrough and having giants on the second playthrough made the fight less one-sided.
>Blood and Gore is DLC in a warhammer game
inb4 they give it away for free as a sign of goodwill after charging for it and getting away with it before.
I absolutely couldn't stand the feel of Rome 2, for whatever reason, but I liked most of the earlier TW games so I'm a bit curious about this.
Anyone else with the same opinion on R2 that can give some insight to how this compares?
>>338927367
What do the chaos giants do differently than regular giants.
I found it weird that giants are infantry killers in this game when they better suited hunting monsters/heroes on the tabletop
>>338927367
When will they learn?
>>338927437
What about the feel did you not like?
>First chaos quest is 4 settlements
>Then 8
>Now 14
Jesus christ, do I do anything with this faction story/quest than raze shit? I can't even leave the north and the norscan tribes because they're all fucks.
[rattle rattle]
>>338927437
Can you expand on what you mean by feel, anon? It's a hard question to answer without more information.
>>338927437
To me personally it feels more like a "classic" Total War game than Rome 2 and Attila did.
>>338927308
Grabbing up Marienburg early is a big help to Empire. Also focus on growth. Once you have Reikland in hand, consider putting down an extra growth building (once of the towns comes with one), then build the money in the second slot (tailors or whatever). Your early energies should be focused on Marienburg, before anybody else gets any ideas about attacking you. If they get into a scrap with Bretonnia, so much the better.
Also a useful tip: The basic infantry barracks line only goes to level 3, which means you can and should relocate it to a town, instead of your capitol. It can be fully upgraded there, freeing up another slot in the capitol for use. Same goes for the Reiksguard fort. Save the capitol for the higher-tier buildings and/or another money making building.
>>338927437
For me it's the most engaging and fun Total War since Medieval 1
>>338927612
Alright, thanks. Do formations have hotkeys? My game glitched and I can't select formations with my cursor any more.
>>338927308
What difficulty are you playing on?
On hard the Empire is ridiculously easy. Cavalry aint really a problem either, as other Empirelads only make the pistoliers, which are fast and annoying but do literally no damage.
>>338927437
Much more polished, more features cut, fantasy setting with more unit variety.
Pirate Attila, it's kinda the historic bridge to Rome 2 but more polished like Warhammer with less features cut.
>>338927506
I'm pretty sure they're just general missions to reward you as you expand. Actual quest quests are issued as you level up your Legendary Lord.
>>338927339
Not the poster you're replying to, but that's the trap I and probably everyone else fell into.
You go south, the obvious direction and then Thorgrim shows up with a doomstack.
I'm going to give them a second go after my Empire campaign but for Greenskins it seems like you need to blitz north and keep kicking the main Dwarf faction in the dick while you raise a second army to go south and deal with the much weaker tutorial greenskins.
Gotta also rush 17 units for them free armies.
Should I bother making alliances with people as the Empire?
In my last failed campaign all the little wars bogged me down, I feel like I should focus on conquering the other provinces.
>>338927391
They can't do that, kids would be able to download it without permission and they'd have to change the game's rating to M. They do it this way to keep it rated T.
>>338927449
I don't know.
If I took a random guess they have higher resistance to moral loss or more health.
But they may just be giants with chaos in their name.
Giants seem as good at killing monsters and heroes as they are at killing infantry. I think they just say infantry killers because they suck at fighting cavalry and ranged units.
>>338927367
Lol'ed.
>AI goblin big boss literally camping outside one of my cities and assassinating every single hero I produce from it
>>338916682
>>338927437
I know exactly what you mean. I too didnt like the feeling of Rome 2. Attila was better, but not by much. This feels alot more like their older games. Battles/units have much more weight to them. Unit collision is godly. I am extremely pleased. Best Total War since Shogun 2.
>>338927719
Before anyone jumps on me for it, I suggested pirating Attila because the guy seems on the fence about handing over money to CA. Attila is a great purchase in my opinion, but opinions do differ and pirate before buying is fine.
>>338927494
>>338927571
I never liked the combat that looked and felt like ass, with both the constant micro managing of power ups that would eventually devolve into mosh pits and cluster fucks. Also how the battles managed to look worse than its predeccessors, and awful art direction whenever you zoom out. A general array of the arbitrary rules on the campaign map and dumbing down of several aspects. Also it could never escape feeling completely soulless to me with the horrible voice acting, boring music, lack of proper cinematics etc. etc.
In short, I guess you can say I'm hoping the combat is more satisfying to control, with better art direction and hopefully just isn't rushed with some actual "heart", like say, Shogun 2.
I consider Attila to be the farthest they can go into the mainline of spears and shield combat and I couldn't see how it could get any better before it stopped resembling TW, I'm glad they've branched out to something new and I hope someday they return to a different era like musketry since they've basically perfected medieval combat
with that said it hurts that some of the good from Attila is gone, but the new territory makes up for it, just wish more units had actual abilities and formations to do rather than just lining, and also customizable lords but that's just a personal thing
>>338927738
Don't make too many, but yeah they're easy confederations once you've blobbed in the other half of the empire and gotten really rich(take marienburg).
>>338927449
Just checked, statistically identical.
How do you deal with marching armies that just try to stay away and raid towns, chasing them in march stance just means they can get the jump on you next turn. Why did they have to bring force march back
>>338927986
I'm really hoping we get a Total War Civil War or WWI game personally, Empire/Napoleon and Fall of the Samurai are by far my favorite TW games and I'd love to see what they could do with those settings.
>>338927437
Improvements: The UI is not an oversized mess. It does not conceal information from you; you can see the entire tech trees and you can see the entire hero upgrade trees.
Dubious, depends on person preference: campaign map management has been greatly simplified. Food buildings are useful only for growing your settlements; food is not needed to feed people, nor do those buildings provide an income. You use them to max out your settlements and once they are, you can just bulldoze them and replace them with something else. There is no sanitation. There is only public order, and two kinds of corruption that you can use buildings, heroes, or technologies to mitigate (but not eliminate, generally). Corruption will affect public order, may cause "rebellion" stacks to appear, and can actually cause attrition to your units in the field if it's bad enough. It is both even-driven and caused by buildings some factions can build.
Fights with minor settlements that have not built the 2nd tier defensive building take place only in the field. This greatly reduces the effectiveness of small garrisons, since you can't jam them up in narrow streets, but it is another attempt to reduce the preponderance of siege battles. Walled cities are both more potent, and more fragile; the wall is the the thing, and they're worth defending because it is a small section of wall rather than a huge circuit, and towers are very damaging and are always in range of the attackers in front of them. They/you cannot lurk out of range and pelt with artillery. You either need enough artillery to blast them down quickly, or you're going to take substantial losses to the towers. Towers can be upgraded to be even more lethal.
Battles are quick, that's where the game is trying to focus itself. They're generally over in less than 5 minutes, which can be good or bad depending on your tastes. The idea is more field battles, so it's probably good to end them fairly quickly.
>>338913996
it's late but, I have a 580 and can run it on high with 30fps or medium with 60fps with a little OC
>>338927136
>when you die your soul is trapped in your bones
>good
>>338925670
The vikings are permanent, archy and the "warriors of chaos" are like attila and just need to be ended a couple times
There will be a big event around turn 105 and then you just gotta stop em. Once theyre gone thhe vikings are wayyy more managable since they cant agent spam as much
>>338927691
I'm not sure, you should be able to check the key bindings. I always build my own formations and then ctrl-g the group to lock it in.
>>338913718
Why so many terrorgheists and no Varghulfs? You know Varghulfs have better stats and have a regen right?
>>338927853
Attila was a good game, the problem is that people constantly looked at it with 3 points off the 10 scale already because they were butthurt about Rome 2. TW:W is simply the best TW since Attila, because Attila is better than Shogun 2.
>>338928107
There's a hero that can slow army speeds by 50%.
I know Witch Hunter does it for Empire.
>>338927853
I guess I might give it a shot at some point from how you're describing it, although I'm still extremely vary after getting burned by R2 at launch. Also the whole "buy now, or you're going to have to pay for one of the main factions :^)" is classic CA bullshit that I can't stand.
>>338927136
>eating humans
>not evil
>>338927151
I never played those because I heard Rome 2 was shit. The Warhammer shit has me interested in this.
>>338913718
>tfw I found out I can play my 24€ RUS "region" locked key in western EU anyway
then agian, I'm glad I saved 36€ because the game sure as hell isn't worth 60.
also, fuck their "DLC" policy which consists of cutting out one of the 4 main factions and releasing them as extra content you have to pay for.in case somebod wondered why chaos DLC ony has about ~80mb in size, it consists of a few configs and sound files + the big intro video for the chaos campaign. the units and everything are literally in the game already
>>338927136
>NAGASH FUCKING SHITS
>NOT EVIL
GET OUT
>>338928547
wait, how anon tell me
>>338928107
You can try to ambush them or use a hero to stop the army or just chase them until thye fuck off
>>338927738
Pick your horses and back them, don't try to be friends with all the members of the Empire. In my experience the province immediately to your east (I forget the name, something with an A?) is generally inclined toward you, as is Talabecland to the northeast. Wiessenland to your south has both an inbuilt mistrust of you, and despite the "defensive" trait always seems to go on the offensive and swallow up the imperial provinces to his east (your southeast). You can try being his friend, but his dislike of the Emperor and bellicosity may make him a good choice for conquest.
It's important to remember that there is no Imperial politics system, nothing to be done with the Electors, no elections, nothing like the HRE politics of, say, a Europa Universalis. The other imperial provinces are for all intents and purposes rival kingdoms and should be seen as fair game for conquest. I'd advise going south or southwest first, since north is the direction doom comes from and it can be useful having a few layers of AI territories between you and them to blunt their thrust.
Bretonnia is another good place to subjugate, as it is relatively far from Chaos, does not get much attention from the Greenskins, no Vampires around to annoy you, and the Dwarves of the mountains between the Empire and Bretonnia are generally well disposed toward you can be counted on to remain neutral or even assist you.
>>338913718
I'm garbage at it. Also, I'm kind of irritated it has the time honored doomstack spawns out of nowhere.
Are lizardmen in?
>>338927136
>Defending bloodsuckers
Not even once.
>>338928510
Rome 2 was only shit for the first couple months until they fixed it, it's a great game now. And those are fairly significantly more demanding games to run than Shogun 2 so there's no way we can know if you can run Warhammer just based on that. I would say that if that's the upper limit of what you can play on your PC though, then no.
>>338928236
Terrorgheists are favoured because you can apply them instantly in any pocket of the fight. They also have frenzy.
>>338928776
>it's a great game now
I'm going to go ahead and tell you that this guy is a retard possessing exceedingly poor taste.
If you can run Shogun 2 without problems, you can run this. Not prettily mind you, but it will work.
any news on how moddable it is?
inb4 five years pass and someone makes a third age mod
>>338913910
My dawi brother!
The game is pretty good, but
Very few active abiilities on units compared to older TWs, magic is not an excuse
Simplified formations and shit
Campaigns are somehow not so interesting and town building and the rest of non-battle stuff feels like a chore
I\ve been playing Attila until recently and I have to say I enjoyed it more even though I love the WH setting
>>338929024
>killing some fat midget on a chair takes five thousand years
MANLETS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>338928884
He's absolutely right, on both counts. Rome 2 is a good, complete, fully functional game at this point with no issues. If you don't like the setting, fine, but that's subjective and literally as far as you can go with it. Additionally, Warhammer runs far worse than Shogun 2 and requires a more powerful PC despite being quite ugly and many steps back in regards to technical feats of previous games. Being able to run Shogun 2 is not a guarantee that you can run this. Being able to run Rome 2 and Attila however is.
>>338929142
>Very few active abiilities on units compared to older TWs
I rather have no abilties than tedious bullshit like Rome 2 had.
>>338929175
Remember your superiors beardless scum
>>338929142
I fucking hate not having shit like spear/pike walls and testudo. This game needs them, so I totally agree.
>>338913718
Im suprised they didnt adress AI and they are so far in the gengre, i mean on AI "dank economy" holding unreal stacks of armies with few provinces... In the begining its always hard but if you survive until midgame you will steamroll no matter on what dificulty since AIs dont work toghether and you will just kill them one by one.
FUCKING BRETON CAMPAIGN WHEN
I WANT TO CHARGE THE FUCK OUT OF EVERYTHING AND THEN BOW TO M'LADY AFTERWARDS
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>338929179
The game still suffers from poor optimization, frequent graphical and gameplay glitches, and crashes. I installed it to give it another shot for this game coming out, and it managed to crash three times in two hours of play.
You're literally full of shit.
>despite being quite ugly and many steps back in regards to technical feats of previous games
Nah, I don't agree. It looks pretty great, fits the style of warhammer, has distinct and attractive models, and doesn't suffer from Rome faces. The models are individually good, and each unit has variation within the army. It's better than Atilla and Rome 2 graphically, and it doesn't have those ugly filters either. Also my friend who can run Shogun 2 on Medium at 60, can run this at medium/low at 60, even on Huge army sizes.
What are Halberdiers good for?
>>338929342
>No wedge formation for cavalry
>No fire arrows for anything
I'm confused and upset. Pretty much my only complaint with the game.
>>338929494
Countering cavalry, charges and monsters.
>>338929142
The setting and unit variety in this is great, but yeah, far, far too many steps back in terms of removed features and regressive compromises that ultimately kill this game. Campaigns suck now, too streamlined yet ironically restricted and constrained and not very fun. Sieges suck now. No town battles. No matched combat. No unit abilities beyond hero units with magic. Could have been so much more but they really hurt the Total War side of the game badly.
BROTHER
>>338913718
HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE VARG AND SKAELING STACKS THAT JUST KEEP FUCKING COMING REEEE
>my General committed suicide when I wasn't looking
>entire ork army fled
>only one Hero remains
>have 6 units, they barely scratch him
>lose the battle
HE'S ONLY ONE MAN!
>>338926482
He might not skip leg day, but he's still on chaos juice so he's not natty.
>>338929609
>"matched combat ruined TW"
>CA removes it
>"We want it back"
>>338929609
As far as battles go, since I generally avoid TW campaigns like the plague, it's pretty obvious to me that the game is being meant to play like Real-Time Warhammer Tabletop rather than Total Warhammer.
My biggest problem with the game is some very odd balance changes (guns reload faster than crossbows but do less damage and have less range, the exact opposite of what guns should do) and the complete lack of defensive options. The AI is hyper-aggressive and holding out for an attack just doesn't work.
Can I run it guy from earlier senpai, here are my specs.
The only thing I dislike about this game is the shitty quotes during the loading screens. At best, they're average, at worst they're cringy, eye-roll inducing bullshit. It's the reason I don't want to play Chaos
The lack of town battles is really throwing me off, as it pretty much removes any advantage a garrison might have
Is it true that the defensive buildings give your towns walls? Their descriptions don't seem to mention anything like that
>>338930226
ambushes anon
>>338930454
I'm not 100% sure, but I think town battles only occur in provincial capitals. Defensive structures only provide additional garrison units.
>>338930298
I'm gonna say either on low to low/medium everything and not very stable. Had a 560 myself a couple of months ago and that thing really is starting to show its age buddy. Time to "upgrade" if you want to continue playing the latests.
>>338930454
>>338930549
if you max out the garrison chain you get walls and a bit larger garrison in the small towns.
Capitals get better towers and alot bigger garrison instead
>>338930752
Yeah I mostly play on console now so I can play with my friends, might have to get some new parts.
>>338930549
Yeah, i think that's correct.
Haven't got a defenise of attacking battle with a wall that wasn't the provincial capital. Kinda sucks, in ROME you could just turtle in your city and basically hold a single street against an entire army.
Man, that so much fun. Had centurions that basically held an entire streert from +1500 army. Had full gold chevrons by the end of it.
They really seem to have taken the fun out of turteling everything basically attack oriënted now.
I love warhammer stuff, and really thinking about getting this game. Can I get some sort of unbiased (lol) opinion on how good this game is? Or how many bugs/general issues there are.
Gotta be careful with my sheckles
>>338930897
Scratch that, building a "City Watch" in an empire settlement grants that city walls.
>>338930991
Have you played a Total War Game before or do you know the general idea? If not:
>You have an overworld map, similar to the Civ series where you build structures and units, research technologies and try to expand your empire
>You expand your empire by battling enemies, which takes place on an RTS battlefield. You use tactics + units to overcome enemies.
A very brief and shitty explanation, I'd suggest watching a review if you're new to the genre. Some people love the formula, others hate it completely.
If you have:
>Incredibly polished (for a CA title)
>Haven't encountered many bugs
>Few factions, but they're much more interesting than the copy/paste factions from R2/Atilla
>Overworld management streamlined dramatically, province system kept in from R2 + global recruitment (holy shit what a great idea)
>Chaos faction prevents you from endgame steamrolling
>AI marginally improved
I'm a shekelhoarder myself, but I don't regret dropping the money on this. A solid 8/10.
>>338930991
>Or how many bugs/general issues there are
Very few actually. I don't think I have ecountered any yet, but I assume there are at least some.
>>338930991
Buy if from kinguin or something, i got it for 42 europoor currency.
It's a good game, sieges feel dumbed down though. But i'm biased though, when i saw ma gryphs hit the orks and send them flying i was sold for life.
It's a total war game on par with the better ones. It isn't number 1, 'cause of the dumbed down siege mechnic but it just feels better, like they enjoyed making it.
*fearful rattling*
Are the battles even faster than Rome 2?
The one thing that I dislike more than any other change over the course of the series is how the length of battles has been decreasing. There's very few moments to stop and zoom in to watch unless I pause or use slow mo, which kind of sucks because it removes the sound effects of the battle.
>>338931505
I have this screen glitch bug. It appears when i start up the game and every piece of scenry just seems to "glitch" and shift a bit.
Tab - switching mysteriously solves it though.
>>338927367
You're a big guy
>>338931629
I'm running empire and small battles take me between 7 - 15 minutes and big ones can go to 20 - 25. It really depend on what difficulty you play and how many bloody riding missle troops the AI thinks is fun to annoy you with.
I once send two full squads off demis after a single unit of pistoliers simply because i wanted the annoying bastards dead.
>Dwarves, initial challenge easy
>WAAAAAHG after WAAAAAGH from the south rape my shit while vampiric and chaos influence grows steadly
>Allies are decimated
>Things come to a predictable end when my lone Slayer King walks to his doom against a greenskins army
I don't think any ammount of git gud is going to help me. Surprisingly though I'm doing somewhat ok with chaos now.
>>338931505
I've played Shogun 2 before, and I thought it was fun but kinda dragged on a little when every nation declared war on you near the end.
>>338931559
>>338931563
Wow, that's good to hear. Thanks guys, I'll probably grab it before the first weeks ends so I can get Chaos
>>338913718
>tfw want to play it but decided to wait until all dlcs are released so i can buy it all at once
Is there some point when Chaos and Norsca stop swarming you with Elite doomstacks or is it until you are dead.
>>338931629
Lord units make the game take forever. Enemies come back from routing more frequently, and enemy generals love to directly avoid direct combat to drag the fight out. Playing as dwarves pre-gyrocopters is truly suffering.
>>338931980
That being said you need to micromanage more than ever.
Defensive strategies suck, you must play aggressively.
I gave up on my Empire Campaign because Chaos wouldn't stop sending doom stacks in threes. I'd defend against the first 3 and they'd be back in 2 turns. Really annoying that you can't force them back to the North.
Other than that, I'm having a fun time. Downloaded the mod for giant unit sizes, and Vamps are fun.
Should I get into the tabletop game?
>>338932235
It's dead. Then built a statue on top of a space marine pissing on its grave.
>>338932235
Yes, definiteley, don't listen to >>338932368 though, he's a nostalgic autist. whfb was horrible and GW did a good thing killing it.
What you're looking for is Age of Sigmar, go to your nearest GW and you'll be introduced to it, it's pretty much like total warham but with more fun stuff, and it got rid of all the dumb rules and mechanics from whfb
>>338932235
Do you have a shitton of disposable income and free time
If you do, go for it.
>>338932235
Are you a masochist into financial domination?
Chaos is fucking broken
>Defending against Chaos
>Start on top of a hill
>Trees at bottom in deploy zone on opposite side of where my main army is
>Put three regiments of swordsman in the trees to flank once their forces clash with mine
>Enemy just so happens to fucking run 2 chariots into these woods
>2 chariot groups are able to massacre 3 swordsman regiments
Not to mention other bullshit like Chaos corruption being tough shit you pretty much can't do anything about except destroy all the Chaos that borders you. Even then they'll just move back in and colonize the fucking place in 5 turns anyway.
Seriously, fuck Chaos.
>Province of Nordland has been a pain in the ass for far too long
>Many skirmishes and raids, Never wanted peace
>Chaos appears, want peace & would be willing to confederate
fuck you Nordland shits you made your grave
Chaos killed me again. Seriously. I got pushed back into the Western provinces and they keep coming. All with full experience and top tier units.
>>338927124
I got my ass kicked s fair bit too.
The trick is to do as much damage as possible then retreat, both tactically and strategically.
Bait them with small armies, deploy near the edge and use hidden cavalry to draw out a few chasers. This ought to let you rape their unprotected siege engines, or even the chasers if you hide enough cavalry, while ensuring they can't blob you to annihilation.
Don't fight to the death, retreat when you've nailed them a bit
Whittle them down like this while raiding their towns to keep fightiness up, then hammer them with your biggest army.
With dwarfs, you have to just accept that unless you already they're going to do a lot of damage before you can put them down
>>338933979
Unless you have a big army*
Fucking phone
Can vampire count armies not be completely wiped out? I utterly destroyed everything on a map and they still ran away with plenty of units.
>>338932576
Weak b8
