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Total War: Warhammer Thread!
What race you playin?
What strats you utilizing?
>>338862554
Bump!
>tfw it might be months before a crack is released
end my suffering
>>338862681
I'm getting to the point where I'm just going to fuckin shell out the money.
Its like two of my favorite things had a baby.
Fuck you Denuvo.
>>338862874
if you pay for this garbage, you're letting them know that it's okay
vote with your wallet
>>338863593
From what I've read and seen on youtube its the best release day TW game they've put out to date. The siege battles are pretty basic from what I hear.
Plus, come on, its fucking warhammer + total war. Shits like a wet dream.
>>338863760
oh god I know, I want it so bad
but denuvo is evil and I can't compromise on my ethics
>>338863997
It will get cracked.
3DM said they aren't going to cracks for a while, as far as I know they are the only group that has managed to crack Denuvo. I'm sure others are working on it though, who know maybe Denuvo paid them to look the other way for a year while it gets more clients.
Its just new DRM though, we might have to wait a month, but it will come.
Empire is fun, but between Breton fucking shits, vampire counts, and retarded nobles, i'm assaulted on all fronts.
Are Greatswords a straight upgrade over swordsmen? And are Demigryph knights an upgrade over Empire knights? Do they basically supercede having them except for being more expensive?
>>338862554
Started dwarfs last night, only played a little bit
Think I'm gonna try chaos
Buy this game you cunts, it's good.
t. Someone enjoying their game rather than waiting for a crack that'll never come along
>>338863997
>my ethics
You're ethics of unethically pirating games?
>>338864447
Is the AI really that aggressive?
>>338864965
>he thinks anyone against DRM must be a pirate
people like you are the reason consumers get shafted year after year
go read up on why GOG exists at all
>>338864965
lol he mad
fight your own battles mate
>>338864348
Just like Tomb Raider.
>No Skaven
But why
>>338864965
Theft is ok when you're poor. I don't get nigger logic either.
>>338865002
not him but the AI is weird most the the time, they declare a war for no reason and beh for peace 3 turns later
>>338865002
AI is constantly going to war with me and trying to sack my shit. Two bretons went to war with me, I conquered one, and the other spent ages being a cunt before I took over one of its provinces and it wanted peace.
>>338862554
Only about 30 turns in as dwarves, having a blast. Dwarves have always been one of my favorite races but I'm excited to try out the other ones too, probably will go with vampire counts next. Also the Dwarf High King attack animation is hilarious because it's pretty much the honor guard using the king and his throne as a battering ram
>>338865262
Learn to federation and trade agreement.
Trade agreement in any TW is basically a non - aggresion with the non - aggresion agreement.
But, yes.
The map AI actually feels competent for once. It actually does this. I spend a couple of turns waiting for siege engines and just watching the AI orks v vamps.
Orks go their shit pushed in at were at their last hold and suddenly they pushed straight through the vamps and pushed them back a stale mate. With the orks having 1 army and the vamps multiple. the auto resolve does fuck you over sometimes though.
>>338865527
I am. The bretons just fucking hate me. Every time I tried to make peace with them, they basically go 'smelly empire fucking shits go away'. So I just decided to give them war, and despite being higher on them in the totem pole, fucking french assholes keep trying to step to me.
also demigrpyh knights are fucking killer.
I'm so bad at this game. Every fight just devolves into big blobs of enemies slashing at each other.
Also I have no idea how to counter pistoleers. WHen I try cavalry charging them they just run away. Infantry can't catch them either.
>>338862554
So is it any good then? Didn't have much fun with Rome 2 but thought Attila was pretty enjoyable.
I know fuck all about the Warhammer universe so if it banks a great deal on being super into the lore and getting all giddy when I recognise stuff I'll give it a miss.
So what is wrong with Chaos? I keep hearing people say they are broken? Like underpowered when you play them?
>>338865354
Fuck you and your helicopters.
Wait until my demi's can fly and i'll fuck your shit up.
Why is this the first Warhammer game between fantasy and 40k that actually feels like Warhammer? Large scale battles have been in the artwork for both series since the beginning and it took this long to get it?
>>338865865
Haha well I'm not far enough in to have unlocked helicopters yet, but I did do a campaign battle where an ally used them and their fucking bombing runs killed more of my men in the battle than the entire enemy force did, so yeah I'm with you. Fuck helicopters
>Buying a TW game on release
>Not waiting six months for all the DLC to drop, the price to halve, patches to be released and fucking awesome mods to come out.
It's like you faggots don't value your time or money.
>>338865994
Is this your first Warhammer video game ever or something?
>>338865994
>Large scale battles have been in the artwork for both series since the beginning and it took this long to get it?
Mark of Chaos was a thing.
Does it run like shit? I'm worried about buying this and not even being able to play it.
>>338866640
Try posting specs instead of chinese cartoons, faggot.
>>338865841
If you want anything besides Marauders you need to spend 4-9 pops per untit and at the beginning you get one growth per turn and you need 20 per population point. You can get up to 5 growth but then you have to upgrade your main building which costs you 14 pops. It simply takes hundrets of turns to get at least some good units.
Or am I doing something essentially wrong?
So is this game all about hammer & anvil or does magic and flying lead to some new tactics for the first time in the franchise?
>>338865718
Yeah Rome 2 really disapointed some people.
Honestly, besides launch and optimization issues and AI and...
Yea it was pretty shitty, I still had fun shooting people with Persian archers, and some of the city maps were pretty cool.
Eh Warhammer universe isn't really needed to play any of the games, eventually you'll get the key terms and races. This is the Age of Sigmar so its basically a medieval version of the Space Marine 40k era you usually see, minus, for obvious reasons, space aliens.
>>338866249
>everyone should do everything just like me
Back to daycare, kiddo!
>>338867120
I don't know shit about Warhammer, but does Fantasy and 40k take place in the same universe?
>>338866851
It would explain why one of the pre-release videos features a guy getting shrekt out of his mind by a full chaos stack.
>start as Grimgor
>smack the boys around a bit
>Grudgebearer comes down from the mountain in his magic wheelchair and fucks my shit up before I can even capture my first province
>try Karl Franz
>Greenskins, vampires, rebels, and worst of all Bretons
>even Dwarves aren't steadfast allies
>>338866851
orcs are also slow as hell you wont get black orcs until 40 turns
>>338866750
>>338867283
At turn 150 with Chaos I had just one stack full with chosen and over 200k Gold but couldn't do shit because I had no population.
KI Chaos is more like the Huns or Mongols that throw dozens of high tier doomstacks at you once Archaon spwans.
>>338867659
Yeah you will be fine, alternatively you can look that shit up in 5 seconds.
Us gamers :D
Can hardly wait for my DLC(tm) to be released!
>>338866987
Flying units are a thing yes.
Hero characters as well I believe?
I thought I saw one in a preview vids.
>>338867659
You'll be fine bitch nigger
>>338867517
No you don't understand I played over one hundret turns and still had just Marauders, Warriors and Chosen. No knights, dragonogers, spawns, trolls, giants, hellcannons or anything
>>338867991
Incredible
>>338867276
Same universe different time periods.
>>338867795
Ahhhh nice. That was another thing Rome 2 got wrong, there was no ever-present threat like the mongols or jihad or plague.
>>338867991
I hate the internet.
>>338867873
I know. I just fear that there may be other issues. I don't want a repeat of XCOM2
WHO /dwarfgunline/ here?
>find a hill
>get on top
>blast the niggers
>watch their ragged remains flee
>comb your beard and strike out some grudges from the dammaz kron while enjoying some vintage bugman's
>>338868053
Brutal.
>To become the chaos you must first be driven mad by it! BLLOOOO- you get it.
>>338868449
Here, I love guns
>>338866987
Flying units say fuck you to any attempts to block them. Some like the Varghiests are legit fucking terrifying. They're slower than cav but the only way to stop them is shoot them out of the air or bog them down when they land.
Hero units are very fucking cool and each is split between Damage Dealer and Support, but each race plays with those roles.
Spells are also another amazing part. They took all those dumb magic abilities starting at Shogun 2 and upgraded them.
You can do shit like -36 melee attack on a unit or buff to 100% charge resist. You can also stack buffs on a unit, so I've had reiksguard charge into chaos warriors with over a 100 melee attack and 110 charge bonus.
The campaign features are a different story and I'm still debating if I miss the removed features or I'm glad they're gone.
The battles though have been my favorite since Fall of the Samurai. At best the only thing I would like is if the combat was slowed down a bit, because it is close to Shogun 2 speed because of the micro required.
I wish there was a story campaign and a sandbox campaign, I enjoy the game but I sometimes want to play it like other TW titles
>>338868661
I don't know why everyone likes FotS so much
It's just making a giant line of line inf and armstrong guns and letting your enemy run into it
>>338868401
From what I've read and seen on steam, Youtube, and Meta
Tbh familia if you cant get a pc game to run on your PC with even mid tier hardware, unless its truly broken, you need to learn more about your computer.
There has to be ten of thousands of different computer configurations and manufacturers, any game is going to trip a few wires. The good thing is, statistically, lots of people are going to run into the same problem. 95% of all game, or hardware issues I've been able to solve with Toms Hardware tier troubleshooting.
Not saying some games aren't shoddy, are deserved of the criticism, but its really not that common.
>>338868916
Because it's varied for the campaign selection. You can go traditional or modern or anything inbetween. The campaign gameplay is great and the battles are spectacle. It takes the butter smooth gameplay of Shogun 2 and turns into an expansion that can be argued as the best black powder total war.
And Rome 1 is all about just stacking Urban cohorts and Praetorian cav. Before rolf-rolling the map. But I still love that game anyways.
>>338869058
>From what I've read and seen on steam, Youtube, and Meta its one of the stablest CA games in recent memory.*
Sorry kinda super high right now.
>>338869175
base Shogun 2 is actually good (except sieges, jesus fucking christ)
FotS is worse than Empire for everything but gunpowder units being useless
>>338867397
>he can't ambush a literal storm
>>338867991
It is like he was deliberately making the comment look as fake as possible.
>>338867120
No, this is just WHFB, not Sigmar.
Sigmar a shit.
>go into every Warhammer thread
>ctrl+F webm
>it's all unrelated
What the fuck? This is one of the few games I actually wanted to have a slew of webm's from /v/ for.
>>338863593
Garbage? This is one of CA's most bug free releases.
Take a chance, if you don't like it get a refund.
>>338869332
How's are they useless?
I know the multiplayer is a different story, but I've done multiple run throughs of FotS and traditional has always been easier for me barring the late-game armstrong spam.
>>338864447
Greats words more attack and charge damage, less defence.
Griffin knights slower but with more punch than other cavalry.
>>338869612
Really? You find it easier to charge the enemy with your shitty units, probably taking 50% casualties, as opposed to just having them stand in a line and never moving?
I only play against AI
>>338869454
I was wondering when the Warhammer lore enforcer would show me up kek.
>>338869520
Oh hes talking about the Denuvo DRM they are using, not game stability.
>>338862874
I can't preach because I have too much money and I bought it but I instantly regret it. I've only played it 11 minutes to make sure it works and then went back to Stellaris.
>>338869776
>shitty units
You can route an imperial guard unit with yari-ki. Horse-archers are hilariously good. The AI is retarded an constantly puts their gun infantry out of position. I've never had more casualties playing traditional than modern barring the first game when I was learning the ropes.
Besides, traditional just ends up being faster for me than playing a gunline. So, therefore, it's always been easier for me.
>>338866537and the battles were actually better in that game
>>338870115
Why do you regret it?
Also, you should buy me it. Mister millionaire.
>>338867991
if i'm not mistaken, the chaos faction IS dlc, isnt it?i mean it's the same as cutting out gandalf form the lord of the rings and selling his parts of the story separately, but still, chaos is officially dlc
>>338870226
Because I'm only just getting started on Stellaris. Get Stellaris for free and wait for crack.
>>338870285
Yea it was pretty weak, I don't get why games do that, I mean CA has been a DLC whore for a while now, but release DLC a shit. At least pretend you made the assets after.
It comes at a cost of reputation at that point.
>>338865694
Any ranged unit will do the trick, crossbows etc.
>>338869491
It's not cracked yet so we can't play.
>>338865203
>Fluff is all about them being stealthy
>"I want to play them in a total war series"
>>338870350
Yeah, got it already, thought the combat was weak, didn't like the pop mechanics, end-game killed me on it really. I'll give it another go next patch.
Thing is I play TW multiplayer with a buddy of mine from high school, its how we keep in touch. So I'll have to buy eventually.
>>338870674
They have armies you can field, anon. Their fluff exists because they have an army.
If I buy the original on Steam can I pirate the DLC?
Haven't bought a TW game since shitfest Empire
>>338870674
Swarms of millions of rats are stealthy?
Is it just me or does balthazar's searing doom deal no damage?
>>338872481
The Sun spell from Death lore is also useless.
>>338872726
Ah just found a leddit post saying spells do a fixed amount of damage so they are really weak if you are playing on Ultra. CA fucks up again.
How much is Chaos going to cost after the first week? I'm a poorfag so I have to wait to buy the game.
>>338869991
He would play it if he could pirate it, he just doesn't want to pay for it. His argument for not buying the game is because he can't pirate it.
>>338867397
>not playing as Gelt and allying with the dwarves while blasting magic left and right
cmon son
Night goblin archers have to be my favourite unit in the game
>Advance deploy them in a forest
>Enemy tries to go around my flanks with light cavalry to harass/kill the units that aren't black orcs and giants
>proceed to vaporize the cavalry then run down a hill because night goblins abuse the hell out of line of sight
Also to everyone having trouble with dwarves as orcs on non-legendary difficulties just get a Goblin Shaman asap the basic little waagh spell is a big ass aoe that gives your units armour piercing
>>338868449
Vampire cunts are fucking me over by sending bats constantly on my range units and sneak in cavalry whenever my reserve troops stationed around are busy.
can my GPU handle it on high? or is it a CPU intensive game
It's fun, but I'm a little disappointed. Still no blood on release. Lots of animations that have been there for many previous releases are gone: cannons and guns aren't reloaded, there aren't any killing animations at all actually...very lazy and incomplete. I'm not going to play for a while until this stuff is sorted out.
>>338877205
Haven't watched the artillery of the Empire or the Dorfs closely yet, but Ork catapults have reloading animations.
>>338877205
>Still no blood on release.
Fucking this. This is fucking warhammer goddammit, we need blood for the blood god.
I wanna like pistol cavalry but i have no idea how to use them properly, i put them on skirmish and try to set them to harass melee or artillery units but they don't do much in the long run.
Maybe i should roll with regular cavalry since they do so much more initial disruption and damage.
Towers are still ridiculous. I thought I could crash a enemy city with three great cannons, but fucking arrow towers outranged and absolutely outshot my entire artillery battery. My cannons did about 3% damage per hit while I lost ten gunners and sometimes an entire cannon per salvo.
how do you deal with enemy range units on horses? they are drivin me nuts.
>>338878660
They are weak to piercing so put some ranged units on them, range vs range they will lose.
>>338878660
Direwolves work well for VC and for Empire and Dwarfs shooting them with artillery works.
I'm already mad at everyone talking about Empire units on /twg/
I always think they mean E:TW
>>338878517
As far as siege goes, I just autoresolve them. Its boring to play if you weren't going to win anyways
>>338878451
Pistol cavalry exist merely to annoy enemy units, baiting them out of formation or just weakening them up a bit. You can use them to bait enemy cavalry and send them on a wild goose chase while you take care of the rest of their army. You can also set them to melee mode to chase down enemy ranged units too.
>>338865354
Yea im 130 turns in with the dwarves ive conquered the entire east side of the map and confederated with all the dwarves and ive killed koleth, carstein, sigvald, and archaeon but they keep coming back
>>338879401
I should get the habit of having them close into melee on ranged unit as said to tie them up properly.
>>338867659
Yea youll be good i dont dip below 60 on ultra no AA and i have an i5 4570 and a gtx970
I hate to parrot bad reviewer complaints but it does feel like it takes a long time to get some unit upgrades. You need second or third barrack or maybe stables but you also need armoury and so on. But you also need a stable economy.
>>338880394
Sounds like they took agoodpage from Third Age
>>338862554
SKELETONS
>SKELETONS
SKELETONS
>SKELETONS
>>338866537
Man what a fun game.
My main strat is getting assreamed by Greenskins and various Greenskin tribes and getting assasinated by the same fucking little shit every time my Legendary Lord is available again and I can't even attempt an assasination of that little mounted piece of fucking garbage because it's too high level.
>>338874785
Well there is an argument to be made that there isn't really any conclusive evidence that piracy is "bad" for the industry, in fact some game companies have outright expressed that they won't use anti-piracy drm at all, as they believe if a game is good, the sales will be good. Of course you can make a slippery slope argument, but its not realistic.
>>338867795
>>338868053
Take this and level up it to maximum. Is very helpful.
Got no money for the game. Anyone got a recommendation for a streamer to watch play instead?
>>338876857
Read the sys requirements.
>>338881053
Why would you do that
"ohohohoho he clicked a thing this is so exciting"
>>338880987
Geh ins Bett, Anon
>>338880987
Noice. Thank you.
>>338881119
Nein
>>338880652
>beat VC
>they come back the next turn full of replenished spook army
Stop resurrecting the entire world you fucks.
>play as Azhag so I can be a propa weird git
>Grimgor is still faction leader
>can't even lead my own WAAAGH!
I'm a bit triggered
Fuck the Dwarfs, they're so goddamn OP. All of their units are nigh invincible, they have ridiculous ranged units that are strong as hell in melee, and their heroes are ridiculous. Can't do shit as Greenskins with then constantly raping my forces, even when I win it's usually pyrrhic with my troops decimated.
>>338880987
DICKHÄUTIG DER TÖDLICHE KLINGE
>>338880987
>actual skill trees that aren't just boring shit like + 1 honor
Can't wait to buy this on a sale in 3 years
>>338881521
>Fuck the Dwarfs
m8 u better believe i just wrote down a grudge against u
>>338881521
>>338881723
I literally am at the point where I eat every prisoner now just to spite you little shits. Doesn't even taste good.
anyone playing on an AMD CPU
If I destroy Chaos Warriors once, will they come back?
>>338862554
Got this last night, my SO bought it as a belated birthday present and I got railroaded from my attempts to go home by a group assignment meeting.
I have no idea where these contrarian faggots are coming from, Total Warhammer is amazing its easily CA's best release in ages. its worth a buy if you at all like Warhammer or CA games.
Anyway I'm playing Dwarfs because I always play Dwarfs first in anything, my only annouance so far is did they change the way you move units with left click?
I remember being able to click and hold a unit of soldiers and then drag them and it selects them in formation and allows you to drag them to a place you want them and they would move in formation to that place.
I have no idea if I've just forgotten the key and button combination for it or if they changed it but its pissing me off when I spend like 10 minutes forming my army up on the sides and I can't move them and keep them all in their original formation and ranks as they move into the battlefield
I like having my flanks covered and I can't keep my power units on the flanks without the option to keep their formation as I move the army.
I have no idea if this makes sense at all, or if anybody knows what I'm referring to with this message.
>>338881436
Its a shame. I like both but I'm doing a co op campaign with a VC friend and Azhag fits so well.
>>338882513
Try alt and left mouse button
>>338882513
no idea what an SO is but, use the arrow keys to move the selected units in their formation
>>338881997
Into the book he goes
>>338881821
>>338881723
Fcuking kek
>>338883153
Significant other, he means his gay fuckbuddy
So are town battles (sans capitals) completely gone? It was the primary advantage you got for defending and it's weird to not have it. You don't even really need to outnumber the enemy anymore when you want to invade their towns because of this.
Do encampment battles not have special maps either? I haven't fought in one yet
>>338882513
Put your units in desired formation during deployment
Ctrl + G to make a group
Select this group and right click the ground will move to destination whilst maintaining formation.
I heard the lady of the lake is actually an elf man that the Bretonnians worship
>>338883410
you need to build defenses in the settlement. if the settlement has no defenses, you are fighting on a field.
>>338883410
Yes, completely gone and it's awful. For all the neat things in this game, there are 3 terrible steps back.
>>338862554
are there any rpg elements in the game
one thing i hated about previous total war games is that i could never really pimp out my character beyond leadership +1, zeal +1 and all that bullshit, does it follow the same formula here or is there some cool shit in place
>>338862554
im loving this game
>be vampire bros
>vessal declares awr
>assault their forces with all my armies
>5 thousand troops and reinforcements
>vs 500 defenders
i couldnt even use the unit select bar it was way too full
Fucking hate chaos
Playing as humies, my deathstacks cant keep up with thier hordes so all they do is roam my lands, occassionally razing good towns with my armies out of movement points literally 2 steps from battle
How do i fucking get em?
>>338883832
Are you referring to the guard houses?
They don't seem to say anything about that in the description, it appears to only increase garrison size and decrease enemy hero success chance
>>338883878
That really fucking sucks, especially considering that kind of thing is unlikely to be patched in
Anyone playing it on an AMD CPU?
80+ turns in with the orcs i have 14+ towns and i'm still struggling because of my shit income. I have only 3 full stack armies and one with 6+ units which i use to keep a province obedient. And how do i fight against chaos corruption ? Aside from events that happen once in a while. It's getting worse around %15 right now. Help me /v/ ?
strats i think u mean spam DD spells on enemy lords / elite units until winning
I am pretty annoyed by the 'questing' system. Some heroes get multiple quest battles while others get as little as one. So much for a branching narrative.
>>338884170
Don't forget that they plan for two more full game sized expansions. We'll probably get them in later.
>>338884178
Yeah. Runs just fine.
>>338885170
what CPU and GPU? also what settings and FPS?
>doing Mannfred's quests
>requires me to bring an army to the bottom of the fucking map for two quest battles
>conquer the border princes for no other reason than to have an attrition-free path at least somewhat close to it
>chaos hordes start to invade while my best army and lord are fucking around in a wasteland at the edge of the world
>more than a dozen turns just to get back to sylvania
Did they put those quest battles there just to fuck with you as VC? This is ridiculous.
>>338884906
Look for buildings that fight corruption. Think Boss Tent line helps.
>>338885250
CPU: FX-6300
GPU: Radeon R9 270x
Runs on high. Haven't checked the FPS. No noticeable drops at least.
>>338885684
alright, thanks m8
you running it on 1080p, I assume?
>>338885808
Wow you just assume that?
As a 1680x1050kin, I'm triggered
Anyone else think this is a whole lot harder than previous Total War games? Normally I can play on Very Hard and 9 times out of 10 beat an army twice my size, but now I'm playing on Hard and barely won this battle.
>>338886063
im finding it quite hard due to the power of heros now
as well as flyers can get really annoying, i find my units always getting flanked by vargheists which are tough as dicks and fly
>>338886063
Fucking hero units are a bitch to kill sometimes. Only thing making battles harder for me.
>>338886296
Haven't bought it yet, how powerful are heroes? Just roughly, on a scale from "just like general units" to "holy fuck these guys take on entire armies by themselves"
>>338866537
>tfw my computer won't run this game and I really want to play it again
I tried everything, this is suffering
>>338862554
Playing chaos in Legendary and I'm getting fucked hard.
Major problem are the awakened tribes declaring war on each other
>>338885808
Yeah, 1080p.
>>338886394
holy fuck these guys take on entire armies by themselves
>>338885339
you can a some currency to automatically teleport your army to fight quest battles and then it teleports you back.
>>338885170
But I don't want to pay for an expansion to get what was in every single other TW game
>>338886394
as vampire counts my hero is doing as much damage as the bat giant thing, about 50 kills un buffed up.
that is without spells upgrades or items, and im usualy finding if you dont get your hero to counter theirs your losses are gona be big
>>338862554
Vampire Counts. I kill the army leaders with spirit leech before the real fight even begins. Cheesing my way through the game.
>>338886626
>all other TW games
>shogun 2
>all factions play the same
>warhammer total war
>every faction plays completely different with different mechanics and with all unique units
yeah no, this game is not even comparable to the previous total wars.
>>338886861
I'm referring to town battles anon
I'm pretty pleased with the game otherwise
>>338883890
Lords and hero units can be assigned weapons armour and trinkets that you find in game and they can have followers that give bonuses. They all have skill trees that they can upgrade through as well. Lots of RPG stuff in this game.
I think they all start with nothing and you pick up items through battles or action. Wish regular units had a few more options to them but I'm enjoying it so far.
>>338885170
Unlikely actually, they took those out for the same reason they made siege maps smaller, got rid of matched combat, and downgraded the graphics: make it run better.
>>338886063
I've only been playing empire where I win every battle with cavalry charges like every other total war, so no.
Launched a game as dwarfs last night. Karak-a-karaz got besieged by a 4000+ ork waaaaagh 12 turns in. Managed to hold off the seige by sniping grimgor with a bunch of thunderers and upon his death the entire ork army instantly routed. Twas a glorious victory. Now at turn 90 and have confederated almost every dwarven faction.
>>338886063
Hero units are hard to put down and enemy units will often flee, regroup and return. In my experience with older total wars enemy units that were fleeing were mostly considered dealt with but these ones keep coming back. Enemy mounted units will often flank as well.
Enemy troop movement in battles is a lot smarter in this game than previous i find.
>>338886603
Fucking cunts, why didn't the fucking Tzeentch cunt tell me anything about it? I've been playing for over 20 hours and have been dragging my dwarf ass all over the fucking map taking forever to complete the quests.
Thanks for telling me.
>>338886063
Obviously it'll be harder than the previous ones until you learn the game. Even if it's very similar.
>>338887126
are the items you pick up modeled on your character's in-game model?
for example, if you pick up a weapon will he wear it? or can you not pick up weapons?
>>338886063
Yeah, hero units are way too strong and the AI seem to be able to level theirs a lot faster. Early game (first 15 or so turns) on normal difficulty my Ork leader was only level 3 and the Dwarves attacked me with a level 8 hero and a full stack. There's nothing you can do to stop that shit, tactics and strategy don't mean shit when their lord can tank everything you throw at him purely on level advantage.
>>338887947
Nah none of it is represented in game just stat bonuses i think. Wouldn't be particularly noticable anyways. The only things that are represented are spells/auras.
Such a pain to take Sylvania. I play as Empire and I own like 40% of the empire regions at turn 47 thanks to making confederations with talabecland and stirland and by conquering most of Midland and Ostland. Been fighting for dozens of turns with the vampires, managed to take their capital and have deployed 4 full stacks in Sylvania but they still have 3 full stacks with strong units and their corruption is fucking my armies up. Fuck these guys.
>>338888193
Alright, thanks.
I was just wondering if it was like the Dawn of War games.
Was playing Vamps to get a grip on the game, now switching to Chaos but what I found super effective...
>keep two units of bats and a unit of Vargheists in each stack
>bats provide filler for the strat and keep things cheap
>plus, actually get good once you research their shit
>get your units within reasonable charge distance of their army, but preferably outside of their ranged units line of sight and/or range
>nana nana nana nana
>BAT TIME
>just flood their ranged backline with bats and Vargheists
>issue the charge order on the rest of your undead
>watch those handgunners flail as their morale drops faster than their health
>any melee units who pull back to assist also start dropping severely in morale
>send 3+ units just packing, running for the hills almost instantly
Fear is fucking deadly.
>Dwarfin'
>Quarrelin'
>Thunderin'
Ultimate turtle faction. Place some warriors in front of the ranged and slap some gobi shit.
Advancing isn't dwarf-like
>>338886529
....raze them....
>>338865067
>DRM that specifically does not impede the consumer
>only impedes unethical pirates
Oh, fuck off. There are also reasons why GOG has an incredibly crippled library.
I have never played Total War before
I have not played many RTS games
I don't know shit about Warhammer other than it has space marines and orks
Should I check this game out? It looks kind of fun and the races look cool.
Dumb how I can't take over some settlements. So as vamps, I'll always have either orcs or dwarfs right on my home province's door step.
>>338887275
>he thinks empire cav is the best
say hello to hexwraiths, fag.
>>338865203
Because expansions, there's a further 3 games supposedly to come numbnuts.
>>338888696
>I don't know shit about Warhammer other than it has space marines
Only the shitty new one has space marines, and no one likes that stupid shit.
>>338888449
literally hammer and anvil the faction
>>338888909
I thought everyone liked 40k
>>338888909
lol butthurrt warhammerfag. warhammer is dead and only 40k is going strong and it OBJECTIVELY more popular in terms of numbers.
deal with it.
>>338889014
>>338888973
>newfags think I was talking about 40k
Age of Sigmar you retards. Look it up. GW literally shoved their Ultramarine mary sues into a fantasy setting.
>>338867795
>one stack full with chosen
Fucking why? You know Chosen are supposed to be elite units right? That's a hell of a lot of resource expenditure for slightly better Warriors. Shit dude, spread your resources around, you only need like 1-3 units of Chosen, then go and fill it out with some regular Warriors, some cavalry and some damn monsters.
>>338888973
>>338889014
He's obviously talking about the Age of Sigmar marines.
>>338862554
Empire.
Encircle.
Majority of the time I have more troops than them so they don't attack and just starve to death.
>>338862874
>>338863760
these.
patiently waiting for the elves.
So does this game have assassin and merchants, or ninjas and geisha and metsuke equivalent unit like the other games, or is war the only way to get what you want?
>>338865527
Battle AI is also pretty good to challenging.
Game spins like a tiger, a few seconds between each turn. Glorious.
>>338889164
>40 turns in with only one province
I was in the same boat, I did however have two allies (one breton) willingly get absorbed by me or whatever the fuck its called.
AI is strange in this game.
Holy fuck chaos incursion 2 is fucking op. As soon as archeaon invades everyone teams up against him and I fucking confederate multiple factions because of this
>>338889014
Educate yourself 40k babby.
>>338888914
I know right? It's great how fast the Varghulf is too.
>first story battle
>they have some cavalry off to the side for obvious flanking maneuvers
>put my Varghulf, supported by skeles and a unit of ghoulies on the same side
>slam that Varghulf into the knights well before the rest of my army is within any kind of charge distance
>he obviously holds them up long enough to swamp said knights in just more undead
Ain't no cavalry getting off a charge with my Varghulf around.
>>338862554
>preorder it a month ago
>hype because kind of like warhammer
>game is boring
>not sure if i should refund and go through the hassle of finding another game to buy or just keep it
>>338888814
burn em
>>338889514
It's called being a cuck nation
>>338870521
>>338870285
Yeah that move on the creators part was utter shit.
It effectively snuffed the game from becoming large competitive.
A missing fucking faction.
Complete bullshit. Greedy kikes.
>>338889509
How exactly does a tiger spin?
>>338868449
it's a good day to be dawi
>>338889791
>game is boring
How? I'd say the game is anything but boring, sounds like you really don't like Warhams after all.
Does anyone else think the dev deserves piracy for the Chaos Warriors dlc bullshit?
Speaking of which, I hope the crack will exist soon despite the odds.
>>338862554
>>338862554
Humans. I lose alot. Nothing like other RTS Ive played.
>>338862554
>Dead game general.
>>338862554
How do I stop enemy heros from going around assassinating everything I own?
I swear they are constantly double or even triple my level
>>338890052
>day after release
>dead
>>338890234
Welcome to /v/!
>>338889791
Why did you think it was boring?
>>338884030
Hahaha. I had that problem as a well. Set up ambushes and princers is your only chance. Luckily everyone in the south made peace with me so I would move my entire force north to fuck those chaos shitters up and then raze their settlements. There is only 2 parts of the map they can come ashore on. North of wasteland and from the Norlands. Use that to your advantage and setup ambushes
>>338888686
Actually for this specifically there are some arguments to be made. Such as the makers of denuvo supposedly being known for installing rootkits on people's devices and the way denuvo works as drm (it downloads a key from their servers to legitimize your copy, meaning if denuvo goes down say bye to your games). I'm against piracy myself and bought this game knowing full well what's going on, but there are arguments to be made on why it may be bad.
>>338887984
Maybe you're just shit and can't into stratergy or tacs?
Anyone else think the whole regions are locked to certain factions thing is dumb? Playing VC, like turn four the orks declare war. Cool, what can I do? Sack their one stolen dwarven town, then wait for them to rebuild? Why? That makes no sense.
Then the Dwarves decided to declare war on the Empire, and send two stacks steamrolling through. Why? There's no real gain, especially with the orks fucking them up to the rear.
As VC I have no reason at all to move into dwarf/orc lands. So that whole portion of the map is wasted for me. Same as dwarves/orcs, no reason to move into human lands. "Oh, but you can raid!" You say? That doesn't help me early to mid game. Early to mid game I can't afford to have a full stack fucking off somewhere, instead of gaining me territory.
Only gripe with the game so far. That and the motherfucking skeleton animations. Exact same goddamn animation for each skeleton.
Cathay expansion when?
>>338862554
Vampire Cunts
10 grave guards (5 shield, 5 greatweapon)
4 black knights for flanking
4 specials
Lord and hero
And then there's my Manfred army that's composed entirely out of terrorgheists and himself on an undead dragon
And my kimmler army that's entirely wraiths of different kinds
Never played a total war game before so I've chosen vamps after failing miserably as orks on my first try. Having a grand old time now defending every single tiny settlement from the 20 or so armies or orks and chaos which are roaming around my slice of territory between the humans and the ork mountains that I'm slowly purging. Meanwhile my dwarf and human diplomacy is off the charts, they asking for more treaties every day.
Should I expect to be betrayed soon? And besides building fortifications on every city and town is there a better way to defend my shit? Orks will sprint to the only unfortified positions I have and raid them like 3 times in one turn even if I successfully defend. I have 3 large armies, two are constantly roaming to defend (often too slowly) and another on the offence.
>>338890746
VA released a mod due to the hatred of that. So obviously you aren't the only one that thinks this way.
>>338888814
CA collaborated on a mod to let you take over everything. It's on steam for free.
>>338890328
Not him but empire building is very shallow. Idk why we still have 6-4-4 province system from rome 2.
>>338890746
The game isn't an autism paint simulation. Read your campaign objectives and play for them. If you think that is too easy, use the mod that let's you settle everywhere.
I love Total War games, but I rarely finish campaigns.
>get rushed by multiple factions in the early game
or
>own so many provinces that forces can't reach invaders in time before they fuck my shit up
>>338890005
>Gaming Journalism
>>338889905
Like a king.
>>338890978
That's why the game gives you multiple heroes to deal with invading forces indirectly
>>338890659
>meaning if denuvo goes down
This is that same "wahh b-but what if Steam/Valve goes down!" argument. If, and that's a big if, that happens I'm sure someone somewhere will find a way around it.
As for the rootkits thing that's a bit more serious, but this is the first I've even heard of that.
>>338890746
That's weird the races of order don't have a natural affinity to not fuck over each other?
>>338889164
Wait I thought Wissenland was part of the empire in lore.
>>338891339
Go look at the denuvo q and a on their steam forums. Also I think your first criticism is a bit flawed. You are comparing a huge multimedia platform to a drm, drms can go down more easily than steam. Yes I agree that they may find a way around and they will given enough time. Do not none of these are my own arguments, these are just the arguments I've heard against it that I'm informing you of.
>>338891360
Bruh, if they wanted that then you wouldn't be able to delcare war on eachother. The two doomstacks of dwarves moving through empire land sacking everything attests to that.
And if that was the case, then VC should be able to take Orc settlements, and viceversa.
It's just fucking retarded that I can be at war with the dwarves, and can't actually win said war, because they'll always hold on to their territories.
>>338890869
>>338890891
Did not know this. Now my only gripe is the dumbass dancing skeleton animations.
>>338891652
*do note
Sorry on the phone
A couple hours into a dwarves campaign right now. Do the orcs ever stop fielding armies with 8+ units of foot archers? Maybe they're just trying to counter my strategy of 4 quarrelers and 3-4 artillery but it's not worked once for them.
>>338891360
Generally the dwarves/humans (Barring wars started by diplomatic treaties) and orcs/vampires do seem to get along. The AI just does weird things sometimes.
>>338891652
>drms can go down more easily
Right, but there's even more of an interest in keeping the games active should that happen, since players will go straight to the publishers, the developers and even distribution platforms such as Steam to complain. There's a lot of companies invested in the working health of these games, whereas on the other hand if Valve goes down there isn't as much support.
>>338889828
I do, but they keep coming back.
>Intercepted enemy Orc 40 stack with my own 40 stack
This was a glorious fight
do guns in this game need line of sight or do they arc?
>>338862874
Somebody please post that fuck pic where the pirate is crying whilst his girl sucks the Denuvo BBC.
>>338892980
That's a lotta dorfs.
>excited for the game
>can't get into it
Feels bad
>>338892980
did you screen-cap post battle report?
looks like an epic fight
>>338863997
>muh ethical thievery
lmao
SOME OF YOU PUTRESCENT PISSANTS ARE WORTHY IN THE EYES OF THE RUINOUS POWERS!
DON'T LET ME CATCH YOU IN REIKLAND YONDER DAWN!
